LS | Coaching A Grandmaster Kled Player

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  • @sebnanchaster
    @sebnanchaster ปีที่แล้ว +510

    THANK YOU LS, YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY PRAYERS FOR COACHING VIDEOS
    I NEVER KNEW HOW MUCH MY BALLSACK NEEDED THIS

  • @axivy4684
    @axivy4684 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Im so happy he's back to his roots

    • @mushiim8
      @mushiim8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      the silver kayle days

    • @Suge67
      @Suge67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is he going to address how completely wrong he was about 100T? I swear LS is incompetent but convinced a bunch of cry babies he knows what he is doing lmao

    • @Darkyryus_
      @Darkyryus_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Suge67 what did he say about 100T i really dont know (not ironic/sarcastic)?

    • @topiastuomisto
      @topiastuomisto ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Suge67 what did he say?

    • @kaelisrobert260
      @kaelisrobert260 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Suge67 only diff is he is a known streamer and your nobody so noone cares what u say.

  • @TussBeatbox
    @TussBeatbox ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is amazing content, both educationaly and the fact that Jones is super funny as a person. Loved it!

  • @LaloMajin
    @LaloMajin ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is like the best news i've had in a while, i missed coaching vids from my favorite coach ;-;

  • @TH-dg2mm
    @TH-dg2mm ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I would love to see LS coach a full team.
    Mostly I'm still salty he got booted from C9 so quickly and we didn't get to see the full mad scientist comps.

    • @EE12345
      @EE12345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he got booted from 5 or 6 teams within a month of joining lmao

  • @jynrules1618
    @jynrules1618 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Fun video! If its possible could you upload more of these?

    • @tenki_
      @tenki_ ปีที่แล้ว

      just because you asked we won't upload coaching ever again wideduckass

    • @mombei9065
      @mombei9065 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He has them on Patreon, I think the idea is to put out very few of these as a sneak peek, if you like these you should consider supporting him on Patreon

  • @zPaintzPaint
    @zPaintzPaint ปีที่แล้ว +29

    gorillajones is the GOAT of solo ruining every game he plays

  • @mark5338
    @mark5338 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    best take from this video is control wards, so many people go into depression over losing a cannon and then they dont give a single fk if they 4fun buy a control ward and let the enemy kill it or just buy it for no reason

    • @MrMrtvozornik
      @MrMrtvozornik ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Similarly how people go into depression over enemy mid doing coin flip roams on side lanes while sacrificing 2-3 minion waves and 1-2 plates on mid, not realizing they literally lost more than they gained with that roam.

    • @SUPERLUMINAL_87
      @SUPERLUMINAL_87 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMrtvozornik I wish bot lanes understood this more, in low elo they're ready to /ff as soon as they get ganked once and call it jg/mid diff

    • @pocketblue
      @pocketblue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SUPERLUMINAL_87 you can deduce if the enemy laners are susceptible to roams halfway there. If they let you do it and your teammate is a wincon, giving a wave or two is not the end of the world.

  • @spamonfire1472
    @spamonfire1472 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back to his roots, I'm awaiting mtg comparisons that the player doesn't understand

  • @Insharai
    @Insharai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool video to watch. I've played on and off for over 10 years, and especially the point on where the mouse is, is something that I think I subconsciously picked up on when the game was in a slower pace but not on a conscious level. The point on wards also hit home too as an over-pink enjoyer xD That's even going beyond the layering things, which definetely curb a bit of the overaggressive style where "I have to do everything at all points in time" I've always enjoyed misdirecting by facing my champion away in order to throw skillshots behind me where I "wasn't paying attention" so it's nice to know that exists on an even deeper level. Really makes me want to start playing again; although I'd have to adapt to the the more measured modern style.
    Super interesting watch. Would be interested what his advice is for more analytical styles, probably just basics basics basics, but I've always had two styles so it's been hard to ever manage them...

  • @AndreasWeiller
    @AndreasWeiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice to see coaching content!!

  • @zazaowen
    @zazaowen ปีที่แล้ว +53

    i am absolutely flabbergasted thank you mr. shadow for this video!

  • @jayrum136
    @jayrum136 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We have a high demand for videos from coaching sessions here

  • @vincenth2890
    @vincenth2890 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pog youtube league content... Never forgets the legend silver kayle

  • @Ojja78
    @Ojja78 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Why would anyone get a coaching session with LS when for only $100 more you can get one with Neace, the absolute GOAT? /s

  • @Killjoyed95
    @Killjoyed95 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good to know masters players also do the classic "failed tier 3 push into losing baron" that I see in my silver games.

  • @utkarshsh
    @utkarshsh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy shit I think I learned so much from this

  • @SolicticeCat
    @SolicticeCat ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Not a $350 session based

  • @yolinhoz1724
    @yolinhoz1724 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    immediately asks to turn off shadows

    • @Tundra_Hunter
      @Tundra_Hunter ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because hes the last shadow

  • @gnomeshark45
    @gnomeshark45 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The jones factor😊

  • @CrucibleOfHate
    @CrucibleOfHate ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I too have been waiting for this session :)

  • @iAMnotVIN
    @iAMnotVIN ปีที่แล้ว +8

    turn off shadows because he is the LAST shadow

  • @Smoogerz87
    @Smoogerz87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow exciting, I was not expecting to see this in my feed today

  • @larry7218
    @larry7218 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do more of this costreams are fun but only if you haven't already watched the game

  • @bv2893
    @bv2893 ปีที่แล้ว

    I died laughing at 7:00 when he said "shit" or w/e in Korean. XD

  • @VanGoHAF
    @VanGoHAF ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Man this guy hates pink wards!

  • @fernandomendez8553
    @fernandomendez8553 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's goo sir kled that's how you know he isn't there to win

  • @SzalonyOnufry
    @SzalonyOnufry ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Should I sell doran's for 1 or 2 control wards"
    "WHAAT??"
    XDD

  • @booperdee2
    @booperdee2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Food for thought. In terms of raw numbers, a control ward that exclusively clears 2 wards gives it value. The caveat is whether a player with a sweeper is coming through, or its likely to go on cooldown when the enemy team re-wards important areas. What defines an "important area" is relative to the champions in the game, but lets get more fundamental.
    Whats the point of vision? It places an enemy champion on a specific point in the map, reveals their current items, possibly catch them using a crucial ability that can be taken advantage of. Regular wards offer this, and are invisible, but they expire, and can be destroyed in 3 or 1 hit (considering umbral glaive or chemtech scryers). Control wards are not invisible but take longer to destroy, and again depending on the champions in the game if they have fast auto resets or high attack speed then that point can be irrelevant.
    Back to the point about exact enemy location though, if you dont see an enemy, you can still know where they are, and this works both ways. If theres a dragon fight and you're blue side, and lost control of the river, you can guess the enemy has 5 players in the river or the pit, probably 1 in the pixel brush that will get bullied out if 5 players approach, again subject to variation if its a 25 stack mejai diana vs 5 flashless Miss Fortunes, but as the team enters towards the pit, player vision is all thats needed, and as such, theres no reason to buy control wards if you're red team.... EXCEPT, if theres threat of a flank. The Control ward can then clear the ward they would use, or see the flank coming and that champion needs to spend time clearing the ward, or is focussed on the players that they dont even see the ward, or walk past the bush with the ward inside it. Again this can be achieved with regular wards however.
    Outside of this context they can be useful at baiting for a pick on whoever tries to clear them, which is contingent on having champions that can effectively collapse on them, and for those champions to be effective in the area. An ashe arrows from halfway across the map has more or less as much effect as an Elise within 2 E ranges. The alternative for the player trying to clear the ward is to run away, as they probably should if theyre in such a position considering the gamestate...
    So it seems to me in the grand scheme of things that a control ward fills the role of being a perpetual sweeping lens which gets value out of showing 2 wards to get cleared, and to prevent surprise flanking, which is to say that theyre useful in spots where trinkets are necessary for elsewhere. One niche scenario i can think of is when a champion or multiple champions with blue or red trinket are fighting an enemy champion that uses bushes and the bush needs to be warded or things get more difficult.
    Personally i subscribe to the "one and done" method of placing a control ward behind the frontline of the map. By default this would be one layer of bushes behind the river, obviously depending on champions and winning/losing matchups that changes, and changes further if youre head or behind. Buying control wards when behind is a trap, you lose gold, and have so little control of where youre allowed to be on the map that you jsut end up offering the enemy team a net gain of 100gold with each purchase, gold that you need as a team thats behind for items for fights that you need to take such as baron or dragon soul. There is anothere niche scenario again where it can be used to bait an over-extension of a team thats ahead and get critical shutdown gold, but depending on the level of play (which looking at current pro play we're still not there yet) hoping for a mistake of the enemy on something so simple is more often than not just going to be bad odds, which then comes into the point of "if the game is a 90% chance to lose, and you have the opportunity to take a 50-50, then take it". However you have to then weigh up a net loss of 100gold with the control ward in exchange for a shutdown kill of 300+ gold, vs 100gold of potential item stats for later fights. Conversely if your team is ahead id say control wards have more value since its easier to jump on overextention of the defending team, and it prevents sneaking jungle camps, however with good macro to not get 5 man fiddle ulted over a wall like a bunch of morons this is kind of irrelevant.

  • @peculiar1295
    @peculiar1295 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding the comments about vision, I think on assassin champions like zoe(especially zoe), zed, talon, qiyana any vision is good vision (assuming of course enemy team are likely to walk through it) for pick opportunities regardless of how ahead you are and to minimize you or your team getting caught. Even in the case of control wards, zoe can contest them over walls which creates space. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    My reason in saying this is, even if we are ahead or even, playing without vision feels incredibly constrictive at least on zoe especially since she can be punished very easily if positioned incorrectly

    • @MrMrtvozornik
      @MrMrtvozornik ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True but also in solid half of the times you should extrapolate where their vision or potential vision is depending on movement of their support, in which case sweeper does just as much even more than a pink. Also, as long as there's reason, LS isnt against it. Ofc if you play a poke champ like Varus and you prep for drake extra pink can go long way to completely darken out your projectiles making them harder to dodge.

  • @oliversotir3914
    @oliversotir3914 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the coaching vids

  • @buildmybackyard
    @buildmybackyard ปีที่แล้ว

    LS saying look bot look top (to check the waves), i feel like you dont actually have to move your camera there to see that its 20 blue vs 3 red minions, you see that from the minimap

  • @baby0891
    @baby0891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate this video

  • @TheSpartankiller87
    @TheSpartankiller87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I saw GM kled player I thought of kledula LOL

  • @emptyptr9401
    @emptyptr9401 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't control wards have a purpose there? While the enemy might know that you are on dragon anyway, they don't know the exact position of every champ in the pit and who exactly is in the pit, enabling someone of your team to flank maybe. Also, if you don't have to use sweeper to clear the pit, you can use it afterwards to clear the jungle, right? Im not a high level player but I feel like in that case a control-ward is good. (referring to 17:50 and the following dragon fight)

    • @deejaydee1578
      @deejaydee1578 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the problem that LS identifies. If you don't have a specifc spot or plan to use that ward, you will autopilot chuck it in a random shit spot, and waste that gold. If you can make more value than 75 gold for every control ward you by then you should buy it every time, but very little people, even pros, know exactly how to use it well

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deejaydee1578 Yeah I know but at that time stamp he specifically sad that there is no reason to buy it but I feel like there is (In that specific case).

    • @travistravis8463
      @travistravis8463 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@emptyptr9401 common sense would say the wards in the pit can be handled by the support. but im not gm so i could be wrong.

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travistravis8463 Yeah ofc only one, maybe 2 if you also want to ward river-bush, team members have to buy one. But its soloq so... yeah... Ull probably have to biy one yourself

    • @weixia5577
      @weixia5577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@emptyptr9401 He has sweeper and can clear the pit of wards. If they drag the dragon out of pit, any further wards that they put from behind pit would not spot the dragon even without the pink ward. If they decide to fight them in river, not having vision wouldn't affect that decision. I.e buying a pink ward serves no purpose there.

  • @ChasingLoL
    @ChasingLoL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's no way this guy just asked LAST FREAKING SHADOW if he should sell his dblade for double pink ward XDDD

  • @supsupbroskibrother
    @supsupbroskibrother ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for the video!! :DDDD

  • @Njox
    @Njox ปีที่แล้ว

    What a nice surprise to wake up to.

  • @gorillajones2184
    @gorillajones2184 ปีที่แล้ว

    LS the GOAT

  • @somesinger1575
    @somesinger1575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Control ward gives you vision where the enemy is/isn't, prevents vision of enemy team, gives an area of approach without enemy knowledge, provides team with wider area of knowledge . . . I think control wards are OP )

  • @jakewright2366
    @jakewright2366 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Hey los it’s everyone

  • @lolboy-642
    @lolboy-642 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro he said minions will crash at 10:01. so hard to fathom this high caliber level of league :O

    • @markantony12
      @markantony12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't tell if sarcasm or not..

  • @Fannalol
    @Fannalol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LS, aka "No Shadows"

  • @hannesh234
    @hannesh234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is turning off shadows really a big deal?

    • @firelynx1266
      @firelynx1266 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's poorly optimized and tanks your fps no matter how good you setup is. Also it serves no purpose gameplay wise.

    • @hannesh234
      @hannesh234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firelynx1266 Ok, I don't really need any more than 240 fps, and it looks good, so I think I'll keep playing with it.

  • @filipnorlund4696
    @filipnorlund4696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would love to have links to the vod with timestamp in the description on these videos nice if i want to continue watching :D

  • @mythun6735
    @mythun6735 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please more coaching videos!

  • @cremlindor6607
    @cremlindor6607 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only ever buy one Control ward in my games and I keep it in my pocket until there's a moment where I don't have vision in a bush and losing vision might cost me a kill

    • @dreadnarco9546
      @dreadnarco9546 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah idk what his point was always no matter what vision can help your whole team

    • @cremlindor6607
      @cremlindor6607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dreadnarco9546 most vision when you are ahead isn't needed. People just use to feel better about not having to look at the fog of war. Even in my case, I might never find use for it but at least in my case I can sell it and get like 20 gold back or whatever

  • @dragomaster2422
    @dragomaster2422 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey LS, it’s everyone

  • @DlCKWALLACE
    @DlCKWALLACE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But it IS SHAKE-OH. Even the official Riot spotlight says it like that.

  • @HangMil
    @HangMil ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf why turn off shadows doesn't even explain why???

  • @neuxell
    @neuxell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i cant watch this guy's gamestate awareness wtf hes a top laner asking elementary splitpush questions
    "should i overextend so they can collapse on me while i have 2k gold on me?"
    "i like to take red lol its so satisfying to kill wards lol moneyyyyy"

  • @bluelephant3903
    @bluelephant3903 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love you ls!!

  • @spyronanya6790
    @spyronanya6790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish I could afford one of these XDD

  • @srhill688
    @srhill688 ปีที่แล้ว

    LS gets trolled 1,000 LP challenger.

  • @dewott1329
    @dewott1329 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cool educational content but man do I feel bad for people getting coached. I feel like it'd be relevant to point out what the person is doing good too more often, like it just feels like a non-stop wave of negative stuff so it must be lowkey exhausting to get coached like this, saying this as someone who received lots of coaching and who's completely aware that you need to question yourself and be ready to accept critic in a coaching session. I feel like it's your responsability as a coachto not make the person feel like they're doing everything wrong but maybe that's just me. Obviously you're not THAT negative and you're even weaving jokes and all so it's all good but it was just a thought, thanks for sharing coaching for free and much love :)

    • @LegionaireSoar
      @LegionaireSoar ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean when I'm getting coached I want to hear the bad stuff they think I'm doing; I don't really care as much as the good. To each their own I suppose.

    • @dewott1329
      @dewott1329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LegionaireSoar No of course it's the most important part but I think there's a way of putting it and some coaches kinda shock me the way they're so dry with their students/clients, like outside of the information given it's kind of an attitude/tone issue to the point where some (not LS in particular) can feel condescending

  • @c2kiyomi
    @c2kiyomi ปีที่แล้ว

    IM GENUINELY SO HAPPY I wish it wasnt Kled tho

  • @eternalgamers10
    @eternalgamers10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does LS ask him to turn off shadows?

    • @BigOatGuy
      @BigOatGuy ปีที่แล้ว +23

      because shadows do nothing other than obscure the position of enemy and ally champions since champion hitboxes begin at the champions feet. So if someone's feet are even slightly harder to see it can make landing or dodging skillshots more difficult

    • @riano3620
      @riano3620 ปีที่แล้ว

      cause its not doing anything , but maybe impact your fps at teamfights
      so even if he has no problem letting them on its not gonna help or do anything

    • @magicken4079
      @magicken4079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he's autistic

    • @7AM_Tzar
      @7AM_Tzar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rehashing the point, excess pointless visual information, as well as FPS drop. Does not improve clarity and honestly I have no idea why Riot has them still.

  • @release1989
    @release1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls do ADC coaching next

  • @vibrances
    @vibrances ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yo that malzahar is cracked

  • @williamkaiser8386
    @williamkaiser8386 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah yes the guy who ruined his career because he ran it down mid in a showmatch and got kicked off his team

  • @modrn_
    @modrn_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I feel like I'll never get better at this game, when he is telling him early to push the wave and get a reset, I don't understand it. Is it because he is low health? Or what? And do you do that every time or what?

  • @MartialArtsForY
    @MartialArtsForY ปีที่แล้ว

    This kled player kinda cute ngl

  • @neuxell
    @neuxell ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "im better than most of the top laners there"
    - immediately tunnel visions on his own lane and just afk cameras

  • @freebasher
    @freebasher ปีที่แล้ว

    Did he tell him to turn of shadows because his name is last shadow? I feel like people only do that out of habbit because their shit PC back in the day couldnt handle it.

  • @ExoBeFr
    @ExoBeFr ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a reason he wants shadows off so bad?

  • @sam5734
    @sam5734 ปีที่แล้ว

    Locked camera makes me feel sick ngl

  • @comrad1410
    @comrad1410 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the thing with the control wards , if it was say an even game or even a game where were behind, would that then warrant the control ward?

    • @Auhazzz
      @Auhazzz ปีที่แล้ว

      thats not why u buy control wards, you buy one when you need to fight for something, the reason to buy control ward should do something related to an outcome of the game, like he said he is stronger therefore there really should never be a reason to get it. You can buy one when you maybe lose a fight and need to regain control over an area. E.g. flip objectives

  • @PHILLYMEDIC69
    @PHILLYMEDIC69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna know how much this guy paid for this 1 hour session

  • @robertpuiu8209
    @robertpuiu8209 ปีที่แล้ว

    why should you turn shadows off ?

  • @oreoyo5639
    @oreoyo5639 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like all the condescending backseater in chat talking as if they don't peak gold.

  • @thestoebz
    @thestoebz ปีที่แล้ว

    People really over use pinks.

  • @HyeonsikLi
    @HyeonsikLi ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like Gold EUW.. dosnt know when to take top turret, when to push, when to base when to roam, what executioner numbers show etc wtf

  • @BigOatGuy
    @BigOatGuy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    GORILLA JONES

  • @deejaydee1578
    @deejaydee1578 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbh from the way he plays it looks like his kled mechanics are still mad rusty compared to feedaboi and soulmario... he was chucking out qs from so far away that would never fully realise an attach

    • @thestoebz
      @thestoebz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He looked fine. Prob first game of day for him. He’s a great player

  • @brokenwolf5966
    @brokenwolf5966 ปีที่แล้ว

    why turn off shadows?

    • @antomir7274
      @antomir7274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      less stuff on screen, easier to see hitboxes (feet outline)

  • @The_Wombatman
    @The_Wombatman ปีที่แล้ว

    Shaco also shouldnt build Demonic XD

  • @aposmicha
    @aposmicha ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this guy really think that he is good? Thats so sad.

  • @SoulLeapers
    @SoulLeapers ปีที่แล้ว

    30:48 sounds p sus

  • @mmorkinism
    @mmorkinism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't believe this is grandmaster.

    • @animositylol
      @animositylol ปีที่แล้ว

      it was masters

    • @Jamal-mq6xn
      @Jamal-mq6xn ปีที่แล้ว

      The difference between Challenger and Master is bigger than the difference between Master and Bronze.

  • @sierr1302
    @sierr1302 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey ls it's me not ls

  • @Suge67
    @Suge67 ปีที่แล้ว

    LS you going to address how wrong you were about 100T?

    • @Suge67
      @Suge67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and Neace....boy been taking Ls lmaoooooo

    • @nimatamizi1788
      @nimatamizi1788 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Suge67 neace 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @botbot3698
      @botbot3698 ปีที่แล้ว

      100T doesn't look good wdym??

  • @chrialltchief2813
    @chrialltchief2813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grandmaster kled has worse camera control than a bronze korean. Jesus christ NA kekw

  • @Fotig
    @Fotig ปีที่แล้ว

    350$

  • @neuxell
    @neuxell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hes so full of himself wtf

  • @tsoixyz
    @tsoixyz ปีที่แล้ว

    game is so ugly without shadows sorry last shadow i will not be turning them off

  • @TheKevinGeee
    @TheKevinGeee ปีที่แล้ว

    Selfmade! LMAO

  • @Daltic639
    @Daltic639 ปีที่แล้ว

    SAY SHACO PROPERLY I CANT WATCH IT

  • @viperadenis
    @viperadenis ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy on kled is so clueless bro , na players am i right

  • @WanderWithMarsel
    @WanderWithMarsel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im better at kled and im d1 eune

  • @Doofey16
    @Doofey16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neace is the better coach

  • @ethosterros9430
    @ethosterros9430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I wanna see ls coach some newer or lower elo players who genuinely wanna improve and listen. Coaching high elos hes barely fine tuning them he may as well just give them a paper with some notes on it.

    • @abcdefghilihgfedcba
      @abcdefghilihgfedcba ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is high Elo coaching for high Elo players. You can go watch NEACE or something if you wanna learn basics.

    • @mmorkinism
      @mmorkinism ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Internet is full of information. It's waste of time and money for newer players to pay for coachings.

    • @ethosterros9430
      @ethosterros9430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abcdefghilihgfedcba hell no I dont wanna watch neace. I dont want to learn the basics I want to see how ls coaches someone who isnt already a half full cup. Also I think it would be good for his mental health. Watching him teaching a kid who is new at the game and see him soak up pure wisdom from someone from ls would be a good time for everyone.
      I'm saying I want to see ls coaching newer players. Not for bronze subwars content but actual coaching and seeing how he can teach someone from scratch or someone open to learning rather than the usual teaching bad solo que habits. That's what it comes down to is ls coaching here is him helping a veteran undo bad habits. I want to see how he helps someone build good habits in the first place. Most of his coaching content is trying to undo bad habits so I want to see the process done in reverse. I've never seen him actually overhead piloting someone where the mentee is responsive and ls doesnt have to try to put a leash around his neck and reign his behavior.

    • @Boy10Dio
      @Boy10Dio ปีที่แล้ว

      He refuses to coach low elo.
      Also according to his audience he shouldn't be coaching gm cause he's only diamond.
      Same standards, complain with those who set them very loudly on other channels.

    • @ethosterros9430
      @ethosterros9430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AmisThysia I mean part of that is ls in patience and desire for control. He has to accept the individuality of the other person and let him learn on his terms. With these high elo vets it's already been established they're dumb and you're here to undo their bad habits.
      And we can see how it didnt work with max Waldo of he trained a yes man clone of himself and we get videos of ls making fun of c9 drafts as if his protege learned nothing. You cant make a good type b player who just gets data downloaded into his brain by you. You have to seed him on the right path and then let him develop on his own. Like if ls solves that missing piece combined with his game knowledge he could be a talent cultivator on a level the worlds never seen. And it needs to be someone like him. You cant erase player individuality without making them mediocre bots at the same time.
      Not liking the debate is likely childhood trauma and given his family dysfunction and his obsession with being right and accurate and not being misinterpreted well, nuff said. If its right the ideas stand. If the player isnt sure or disagrees "try it and find out". Othereise u end up with brain dead bots or locked in an ego pushing match. if a player is paying to argue then smile and laugh because hed paying to argue and not to improve, but you gotta respect their intelligence to not just look at them as some lemming with no sentience.

  • @madlifeelements4254
    @madlifeelements4254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @realkesii
    @realkesii ปีที่แล้ว +30

    NA Grandmaster looks like diamond 2 EUW at most my eyes

    • @oreoyo5639
      @oreoyo5639 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      That what low elo player say. There not that much of a diff.

    • @ObliqueXuba
      @ObliqueXuba ปีที่แล้ว

      Ong what the fuck is that macro

    • @jelly8621
      @jelly8621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they looks like lcs team for not gonna lie Clueless

    • @filbett9305
      @filbett9305 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's just gorilla Jones I fear

    • @cremlindor6607
      @cremlindor6607 ปีที่แล้ว

      This kled is much smarter than any D2 player you can find in EUW

  • @janprochazka6215
    @janprochazka6215 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ignite top 🤮

  • @davidmachacek1527
    @davidmachacek1527 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you think ur even qualified to coach this guy... for 200 dollars coached by someone who need's to abuse duo to get out of diamond ? that's crazy

  • @neuxell
    @neuxell ปีที่แล้ว

    grandmaster not microoptimizing haHAAAA

  • @Ju1i77
    @Ju1i77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ey, my one dude in league scene i hate
    any hate watchers?

  • @Justaplebxd1998
    @Justaplebxd1998 ปีที่แล้ว

    diamond stuck coaching grandmaster the irony

  • @rs4cool
    @rs4cool ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Coaching a player when you're even worse at the game L00000l, KEK.

    • @the_beemer
      @the_beemer ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You'll be surprised to find out generally not a single coach is better than their players in Pro League (maybe Nukeduck ~ Bjergsen)
      Are Grabbz, Dylan Falco, Yamato etc. trash because they dont play better than their players?

    • @giacomotezza2450
      @giacomotezza2450 ปีที่แล้ว

      From this stupid comment we can guess your elo.

    • @alexismedor6182
      @alexismedor6182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@the_beemer veigarv2 was omega high challenger too right?

  • @yavuzeken
    @yavuzeken ปีที่แล้ว

    i missed this