The last shower I installed was supposed to be a curbless unit, however it being on a slab foundation and the existing drain line was not deep enough below grade to allow for me to clearance for the drain, ended up going with a very low curb as a compromise, honestly the only draw back I could see to a curbless shower would be if you have a backup in the plumbing, especially since it's going to be the lowest spot it will be much easier to flood the bathroom than with a traditional curbed pan.
Didn't think of that. Good point. Looking at options to remodel our master bath, ranch, full basement. Yhe curbless looks nice and all but seems a but of a pain compared to a standard shower.
Great video. However, what if you're using Ditra HEAT in the shower as well? Do you you raise the non-shower part of the floor by 5/8" Or use Ditra Heat in the shower and Ditra heat DUO (which is 1/16" taller) on the rest and just kinda float the 1/16" difference?
When you cut, modify the shower pan board like you did, it’s no longer the same thickness all around, that’s why you have a noticeable dip in the middle of that pan in your final finished photo.
Instead of removing the entire floor and adding 1/4 inch plywood, and thus creating a 1/4 inch lip at the doorway to the bathroom, remove 1/4 inch from the joists where the shower is going with a powered planer. 1/4 inch off the joists will not ruin the integrity of the joists.
Mr. Teacher I'm doing a walkinn shower. And they want ceiling tiled. What thinset you recommend and if it's a inclosed shower should the ceiling have a tilt on it kinda like a steam shower build were ceiling as tilt for water to run to back wall. I've tiled ceiling before but used 4×4 inch tiles and used allset to install. First time doing 12×24 inch tiles. So just kinda nerves. I know I can do it I've done showers for 10 years. Just never tiled to many ceilings with 12×24 inch tiles. Any advice on setting tile. Should I brace tile ever time I install one cause of the weight. Like those scaffold pole that holds plastic walls to block a room off if to much dust. Would really appreciate your advice. Thank you sir
Love wedi. I’ve done a 5x5 ligno before. What are your Thoughts on only doing a 3x5 ligno in a smaller bathroom with the shower door on the 5’ side entering by the front wall of the shower? Any issues with kicking water out under the door if such a small curbless Shower? I’m torn between primo and lean curb or ligno
Million dollar question 😆 most of the time it’s below 3/4” difference in height dependent on what the outside floor is. Sometimes I simply edge the tile with a metal Schluter edging and tuck carpet to it. If it’s hardwood or laminate, you need to get a transition strip that fits 👍 amzn.to/41c4TJT
Would it be possible to mud float a curbless shower on plywood (1/4durock base, panliner, and then mudfloat)? Would the downside of doing it is that you have to raise the shower floor with self leveler and schluter membrane?
A quarter round from schluter works good. You brain will learn in a matter of days the step is there and you won't think about it. A 1-1/2 step isn't the end of the world. Convincing the client's wife it isn't a big deal is never easy though...
the room isnt pitched at all, ideally. a little water can get out of the shower but not anymore than someone standing outside a tub dripping water. But no, the room floor isnt pitched.
Basically its the height of floor outside of actual shower area that determines the depth and pitch into shower drain and starting point/height for walls
Re: the pic in the intro (which shows a shower door with sweep): how are you going to open the door onto the floor tile? Ideally the floor should be slightly pitched toward the shower, in which case the sweep will get jammed up. Even if the floor is level, the sweep is going to be dragging the whole way across the floor. And where do you put a bath mat? Yeah, i guess you could always ooen the door into the shower, but not only is that a pain, a lot of stock doors only open the opposite direction. If you're going to have two different tiles, put in a transition, even a low one sitting up 1/8" above the tile: looks better, better drainage, no problem with the door... Also, put more than a handful of nails in the rails (as shown in the video) installed between existing joists. 2x6's with structural screws would be an even better option.
One reason, because inside the shower floor it’s better to use mosaic tile instead of large tile , because mosaic tiles give you a better pitch for the drain
So you transfer your "curb" to the bathroom door. New construction framing drops the floor joists as much as 41/2" (three 2x4) to accommodate old school cement sub slope and pan. Nice presentation but still step up curb at bathroom door.
I've never seen a bathroom with lowered joists. If they were you simply wouldn't use this system. If you have to shim the joists like in the first example, then there might be a 1/2" drop into the hallway, but it's pretty easy to construct an oak or maple ramp in a doorway that makes for a pretty smooth transition.
I was just thinking we are long overdue for some longer video by BRT and then … booom. This popped up. Cant stand “the shorts”. Ridiculous on YT behalf honestly. Hope all is well Steve and looking forward to some new content. 👊
Just curious, do you get notified of shorts? (I hope not 😆 I make a lot of them) Main reason I make them is because it’s really the only thing growing my channel. Majority of subs come from it
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher I completely understand why you guys (content makers) do make shorts. YT is stimulating you because of their attempt to compete with TikTok. Omg! Great example of humanity in its descent. And yes I do get notified when BRT even yawns. LOL Jokes aside yes in deed I do get notified.
I honestly don’t get how you don’t have 1 mil plus subscribers. Your on your way though.
The last shower I installed was supposed to be a curbless unit, however it being on a slab foundation and the existing drain line was not deep enough below grade to allow for me to clearance for the drain, ended up going with a very low curb as a compromise, honestly the only draw back I could see to a curbless shower would be if you have a backup in the plumbing, especially since it's going to be the lowest spot it will be much easier to flood the bathroom than with a traditional curbed pan.
Schluter does recommend a 2nd floor drain curbless. I’d also recommend water proofing up the walls
Didn't think of that. Good point.
Looking at options to remodel our master bath, ranch, full basement. Yhe curbless looks nice and all but seems a but of a pain compared to a standard shower.
GREAT work Steve!!!!
I love your videos, helping me in my new remodeling business every day
Thanks for this video 😊 helpful for my renovation
If putting in Ditra heat would you raise floor 3/8 inch to be able to run ditra xl into shower.
I'm learning so much from your videos. Thank you!
One of the best out there👍👍
Great video. However, what if you're using Ditra HEAT in the shower as well? Do you you raise the non-shower part of the floor by 5/8" Or use Ditra Heat in the shower and Ditra heat DUO (which is 1/16" taller) on the rest and just kinda float the 1/16" difference?
You've become as great a video producer as craftsman!
Thanks Bob 😊
What would you do to install a solid granite curbless shower base? Would a schluter shower pan still be a good idea to go underneath the granite slab?
How would you do heated floors with the VIM shower system?
When you cut, modify the shower pan board like you did, it’s no longer the same thickness all around, that’s why you have a noticeable dip in the middle of that pan in your final finished photo.
HEY HEY! Your vids have popped up .. new Sub here. Soo great to discover your channel .. hope 2024 is a glorious year for you and your loved ones
Question. Why do you use Wedi sometimes and Schluter other times?
Sometimes you can afford gormet chocolate other times hersheys
Instead of removing the entire floor and adding 1/4 inch plywood, and thus creating a 1/4 inch lip at the doorway to the bathroom, remove 1/4 inch from the joists where the shower is going with a powered planer. 1/4 inch off the joists will not ruin the integrity of the joists.
Doesn’t always work like that because of where the actual drain pipe is.
Not really, you can move the drain, or you can have the drain at the wall or in the middle, there's plenty of options.@@IvanRico-l5x
Mr. Teacher I'm doing a walkinn shower. And they want ceiling tiled. What thinset you recommend and if it's a inclosed shower should the ceiling have a tilt on it kinda like a steam shower build were ceiling as tilt for water to run to back wall. I've tiled ceiling before but used 4×4 inch tiles and used allset to install. First time doing 12×24 inch tiles. So just kinda nerves. I know I can do it I've done showers for 10 years. Just never tiled to many ceilings with 12×24 inch tiles. Any advice on setting tile. Should I brace tile ever time I install one cause of the weight. Like those scaffold pole that holds plastic walls to block a room off if to much dust. Would really appreciate your advice. Thank you sir
Love wedi. I’ve done a 5x5 ligno before. What are your Thoughts on only doing a 3x5 ligno in a smaller bathroom with the shower door on the 5’ side entering by the front wall of the shower? Any issues with kicking water out under the door if such a small curbless Shower? I’m torn between primo and lean curb or ligno
What name brand respirator is that?
Really good video thanks 🙏
When shimming and raising existing floor how do you address tie in to entrance flooring
Million dollar question 😆 most of the time it’s below 3/4” difference in height dependent on what the outside floor is. Sometimes I simply edge the tile with a metal Schluter edging and tuck carpet to it. If it’s hardwood or laminate, you need to get a transition strip that fits 👍 amzn.to/41c4TJT
Helped me see. Appreciated.
Would it be possible to mud float a curbless shower on plywood (1/4durock base, panliner, and then mudfloat)? Would the downside of doing it is that you have to raise the shower floor with self leveler and schluter membrane?
Is there a reason for why you mail down your subfloor instead of screws? Is it just faster for you or?
Faster
In what city do you work ??? Im interested in doing something like that for my mother house , since she use a walker to walk in to the shower.
How do you address the step at the doorway when you raise the floor?
It’s usually about 3/4”-1” after tile (above subfloor) most carpet raises higher than that and hardwood lines up nicely 👍
A quarter round from schluter works good. You brain will learn in a matter of days the step is there and you won't think about it.
A 1-1/2 step isn't the end of the world. Convincing the client's wife it isn't a big deal is never easy though...
How can I do this on a concrete slab floor?
Concrete Floor for Curbless Shower | Basement Bath
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Good video, you forgot the music on this one. Keep up the good work.
😆 yeah, it’s sometimes not worth
Always fighting yt on licenses
do you pitch the floors outside the shower? I honestly don’t see how that is done unless you pitch the entire room.
the room isnt pitched at all, ideally. a little water can get out of the shower but not anymore than someone standing outside a tub dripping water. But no, the room floor isnt pitched.
Basically its the height of floor outside of actual shower area that determines the depth and pitch into shower drain and starting point/height for walls
Re: the pic in the intro (which shows a shower door with sweep): how are you going to open the door onto the floor tile? Ideally the floor should be slightly pitched toward the shower, in which case the sweep will get jammed up. Even if the floor is level, the sweep is going to be dragging the whole way across the floor. And where do you put a bath mat? Yeah, i guess you could always ooen the door into the shower, but not only is that a pain, a lot of stock doors only open the opposite direction. If you're going to have two different tiles, put in a transition, even a low one sitting up 1/8" above the tile: looks better, better drainage, no problem with the door...
Also, put more than a handful of nails in the rails (as shown in the video) installed between existing joists. 2x6's with structural screws would be an even better option.
You sir need a door with a bottom track 😆 great observations
In the last clip, the last shower that you show why does the pantile ramp up in the corners? You can see it on your first row cuts/ tile.
He may have overdone the pitch. Shoild be a subtle pitch
Because he cut the preformed pan, so the edge is no longer level.
I like this style because that's what bathrooms look like in other countries and I was born in Brazil. Not one takes showers in a pan😂
Thanks
Never understood why people who go with curbless showers using 2 dif floor tiles. You're creating a seamless floor....then putting in a seam lol
One reason, because inside the shower floor it’s better to use mosaic tile instead of large tile , because mosaic tiles give you a better pitch for the drain
@@kevingarcia2426exactly yet mosaic doesn’t look great outside the shower
Also mosaic tiles tend to be less slick
Where are you located?
So you transfer your "curb" to the bathroom door. New construction framing drops the floor joists as much as 41/2" (three 2x4) to accommodate old school cement sub slope and pan. Nice presentation but still step up curb at bathroom door.
I've never seen a bathroom with lowered joists. If they were you simply wouldn't use this system. If you have to shim the joists like in the first example, then there might be a 1/2" drop into the hallway, but it's pretty easy to construct an oak or maple ramp in a doorway that makes for a pretty smooth transition.
Curbless showers are only trendy in the US.. in Japan and various countries in Europe wet room bathrooms are the norm
It depends on space
thanks . do these videos more detailed so all steps will be clear. speeding up the footage makes it lack of information ;)
😆 then no one will watch them 😆
They will be better explained in the course that will ge coming out bathroomremodeling.teachable.com/p/home
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher I didn't mean on one long video. can be broken down to steps. i think you'll do amazing if you do so. IMO....
I was just thinking we are long overdue for some longer video by BRT and then … booom. This popped up. Cant stand “the shorts”. Ridiculous on YT behalf honestly. Hope all is well Steve and looking forward to some new content. 👊
Just curious, do you get notified of shorts? (I hope not 😆 I make a lot of them)
Main reason I make them is because it’s really the only thing growing my channel. Majority of subs come from it
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher I completely understand why you guys (content makers) do make shorts. YT is stimulating you because of their attempt to compete with TikTok. Omg! Great example of humanity in its descent. And yes I do get notified when BRT even yawns. LOL Jokes aside yes in deed I do get notified.
@@splanzza More security warnings about (Chinese) Tik Tok gathering personal data.
I don’t like the fact that you nailed the plywood I would have used screws sorry
Whats the most money you ever made working for yourself after tax? 😂
The comments are why we just do the work, and not film it.
Having your head floating around in a box is creepy AF.