I recently bought my Aodhan Ah06 (18x10 +25mm) stretching out some 225/40s for my Nissan Cedric on maxxed out BCs. So far so good considering I daily it on 285 towards Atlanta, which is a very shitty highway with ugly bridge seams 🤣 honestly I love the look but I’m dreading the day I can’t swerve out in time for THE killer pothole. Most of the time I drive way under 65mph so I’m not at all too concerned. No bends so far. I’m actually very impressed considering I paid 771 for the set. Great daily wheels while I save up for some Rays.
Smaller side wall may get your car lower but it also makes it slower while causing your speedometer to be off(maybe not your BMW) and as you discovered easier to damage
Good stuff, couple of notes though. You changed the profile from 45 to 35, not only is it a big change in diameter but you're taking away protection, should have gone 245/40. Potholes are not "Normal" road conditions, if they were then city wouldn't patch them. Aodhan can't possibly be expected to replace the wheel you bent by not avoiding a pothole and using a 10mm lower profile tire. If you expected them to then you should've contacted Michelin to replace the tires since the damage would have been from "Normal" driving. I don't know if this is a Cali mentality but the real issue here is that there was a pothole in the first place, meaning the City would be liable.
I explicitly included the part about pot holes being normal on California roads and Aodhan being a California based company should know this. (Normal vs pristine road conditions). Apex, another California based wheel company considers potholes normal and specifies this in their policy. If the wheel isn't intended to run a slightly lower profile shouldn't the company disclose that? Seems like a huge safety concern Also I didn't need to contact Michelin about their tires because American Tire warrentied them, under their warranty potholes are normal road conditions and covered under their warranty. If the company didn't list the policy in that manner I wouldn't say anything. They sold their wheel with an advertised warranty and didn't deliver.
Even worse than 10mm the 35 is % of tire width so he went from 110.25 to 85.75. Or about an inch in height. Also lol at it being a CA company as if it's the only state with potholes. Every state has potholes. The MW/NE has it way worse due to snow/ice. You are right about the warranty though you'd be hard to pressed to find a manufacturer that covers it since it's a significant impact that you can't really design around regardless of material/construction type. A CNCd or CF might be stronger but they still have a limit. Even OEMs don't cover this damage. Definitely the city should be liable but getting reimbursed is another story in many states. Expecting the manufacturer to pick up the tab on something they have zero control over is crazy. What's next free wheel replacement for curbed wheels?
Fritz would you recommend the stage2 for the m235i? I have the stock one for 3months now, and I am considerig for a tune. Is it a noticeble difference in power? If so, is the bootmod3 the way to go? I am your subsriber and I watch all of your videos, but still, I have order the BMS intake, should I cancel it and order just the scoop? Thanks and geetings from Slovenia!
Thank you. If you are tight on money I wouldn't get the intake. If you are okay with the cost and want the sound then go for the intake, otherwise a high flow drop in filter will do. As far as bm3, the stage 1 and stage 2 tune are noticeable. I should have a long term review out early next year, but so far so good.
Great video! I almost pulled the trigger on some reps from aodhan and the fact that customer service sounds pretty bad fck that! A company that stands by their product is everything.
Here in Hawaii the county will pay all expenses you spent in repairing your rims as long as you justified it that you hit a pot hole causing your tire and rim damages. Of course you need to take a picture of the where the incident occurred.
Potholes are 100% impact damage. Outside influence. I’d be surprised if any company would replace your wheel for you for hitting a pothole or anything else. It’s not a defect in the product. It’s too bad that you want to knock this company for not wanting to replace something that you damaged. Accident or not.
It's too bad that a company didn't honor their warranty as it was written. If it wasn't a problem then why did they change ther warrant? Apex wheels and Rex Racing Wheels will warranty pothole damage.
@@TomZ23 manufacturers make their warranties whatever they want. Some include only manufacturer defects, others covers more. To claim that it will hold up to normal road use and potholes are normal in California from a California company is a deceiving practice.
Fitment Industries offers a 2yr warranty for $16 per wheel, full refund of the damaged wheel, no questions ask. FI has all the Aodhan wheels and all of them cost about 10% less than the Aodhan site, which it is much more than 16 per wheel, justifies buying the warranty. FI also offer military discount. *To Aodhan defense, a pothole is not normal road conditions, that, imo, is an impact, but that is just my opinion. You can also check your CC warranty, usually it is from six to twelve months. To say a quick story, once I dropped my cell phone, CC refunded the phone.
Fritz, don’t risk your well being driving on that damaged rim. Support another local Co., get it repaired at a local hydroforming shop. And, what about bronzing your original wheels?
So you dented your rim (it didn’t break mind you) and couldn’t get someone else to pay for it or replace it. Problecito. Your complaining about a “technicality” but that is exactly what you are trying to use for your argument. A big pothole is obviously not “normal” road conditions.
I laughed out load. You hit a pothole with a thunderous boom and undersized tire. They appear to have held up well. Although I can understand you argument, you are just plain wrong. A pothole is an impact. I just bent an expensive Vossen wheel on a pothole and was pissed at myself, not them.
If you understand the argument then how is it wrong? Potholes are normal in California, this is a California company therefore a California company should know that that their wheels will be subject to potholes. Try looking at APEX's warranty, they're another California based company. If Aodhan didn't want to cover potholes why didn't they exclude it in their warranty? It's because they want people to assume that it's covered and then try to hide behind a technicality, especially when they know about this video. My tire was not undersized, if their wheels can only be supported by a certain tire size then they should also say that.
@@FritzRamos apex clearly states they do not cover an impact caused by a pothole as stated below. This limited warranty does not cover any damage arising from the improper fitment for the intended vehicle, mishandling during transit, damage caused by tire mounting equipment, damage during vehicle installation, or otherwise caused by unintended use such as off-roading, going off the paved track surface, contact with other vehicles, impact with potholes, curbs, berms, barriers, objects in the road, or impact with other road and track hazards, or applications that exceed the wheel’s indicated load rating. Rim cracks or bends are not warrantable if there is a clear sign of impact that caused the damage.
@@FritzRamos Both companies state they warranty workmanship. I’m having a hard time with you thinking they would cover this. If you damaged your suspension in the same incident, you would expect BMW to repair it right? They would laugh you out of the dealership. I’ll leave it at this, you can think what you want and I’ll think what I want. I do enjoy your videos though.
@@jaredh8555 The point is APEX details what their warranty does and does not cover, they don't leave it up to you to guess. As a company who has to maintain their bottom line, why not at least make a more detailed explanation since this event? Thanks, KW does warranty some of their shocks out and the ones they don't they specifically exclude.
@@FritzRamos I think the quality help up...could have been worse, but the rim held the air and didn't crack...your profile tire is low...it's bound to happen.
You probably gave them too much detail. Be a little bit more vague next time. Just say the damage was under normal road conditions. if they pry just continue to say under normal road conditions. Treat them like they’re cops.
@@FritzRamos Think I'm gonna go get ESR RF1's but I don't think their warranty is any better than aodhans, do you know any company that will match half of a damaged wheel?
@@FritzRamos New company, one of their reps had to let go of the wheels because he needed to sell his m240. They reached out to me with the deal and I couldn’t refuse. Only was on the guys car for a month, basically brand new
I work in San Jose and went to a wheel store and they offered me this brand, thanks for the review
Glad I could help. What did you end up getting?
Can you pop the center hub out and replace it? I would prefer to have the BMW logo on the rims
I’m picking up the VMR 804 in Titan Bronze for my mineral white M235i. VMR is priced perfectly and their quality is top notch for the price.
I recently bought my Aodhan Ah06 (18x10 +25mm) stretching out some 225/40s for my Nissan Cedric on maxxed out BCs. So far so good considering I daily it on 285 towards Atlanta, which is a very shitty highway with ugly bridge seams 🤣 honestly I love the look but I’m dreading the day I can’t swerve out in time for THE killer pothole. Most of the time I drive way under 65mph so I’m not at all too concerned. No bends so far. I’m actually very impressed considering I paid 771 for the set. Great daily wheels while I save up for some Rays.
Smaller side wall may get your car lower but it also makes it slower while causing your speedometer to be off(maybe not your BMW) and as you discovered easier to damage
Thanks my friend. Will continue to shop around. Apex is nice but always backordered.
No problem, if you want I'm trying to work on a group buy for Rex Racing wheels. If you like their styles let me know. www.rexracingwheels.com/
Good stuff, couple of notes though. You changed the profile from 45 to 35, not only is it a big change in diameter but you're taking away protection, should have gone 245/40. Potholes are not "Normal" road conditions, if they were then city wouldn't patch them. Aodhan can't possibly be expected to replace the wheel you bent by not avoiding a pothole and using a 10mm lower profile tire. If you expected them to then you should've contacted Michelin to replace the tires since the damage would have been from "Normal" driving. I don't know if this is a Cali mentality but the real issue here is that there was a pothole in the first place, meaning the City would be liable.
I explicitly included the part about pot holes being normal on California roads and Aodhan being a California based company should know this. (Normal vs pristine road conditions).
Apex, another California based wheel company considers potholes normal and specifies this in their policy.
If the wheel isn't intended to run a slightly lower profile shouldn't the company disclose that? Seems like a huge safety concern
Also I didn't need to contact Michelin about their tires because American Tire warrentied them, under their warranty potholes are normal road conditions and covered under their warranty.
If the company didn't list the policy in that manner I wouldn't say anything. They sold their wheel with an advertised warranty and didn't deliver.
Even worse than 10mm the 35 is % of tire width so he went from 110.25 to 85.75. Or about an inch in height. Also lol at it being a CA company as if it's the only state with potholes. Every state has potholes. The MW/NE has it way worse due to snow/ice. You are right about the warranty though you'd be hard to pressed to find a manufacturer that covers it since it's a significant impact that you can't really design around regardless of material/construction type. A CNCd or CF might be stronger but they still have a limit. Even OEMs don't cover this damage. Definitely the city should be liable but getting reimbursed is another story in many states. Expecting the manufacturer to pick up the tab on something they have zero control over is crazy. What's next free wheel replacement for curbed wheels?
Fritz would you recommend the stage2 for the m235i? I have the stock one for 3months now, and I am considerig for a tune. Is it a noticeble difference in power? If so, is the bootmod3 the way to go? I am your subsriber and I watch all of your videos, but still, I have order the BMS intake, should I cancel it and order just the scoop?
Thanks and geetings from Slovenia!
Thank you. If you are tight on money I wouldn't get the intake. If you are okay with the cost and want the sound then go for the intake, otherwise a high flow drop in filter will do. As far as bm3, the stage 1 and stage 2 tune are noticeable. I should have a long term review out early next year, but so far so good.
What is the side of the pothole, what was your speed ?were the tires fully inflated ?
Without all this info, That looks like an impact.
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I have a 2015 bmw 228i with basic rims. Car is Valencia orange but has chrome trim around the windows. Would black rims look weird on it?
Awesome vid, looking forward to more content from you.
Just thumb up whenever I saw ur video :D Nice work and review dude
Lol. Thank you.
is the bronze really dark or is that just the video... I want to get one of their bronze wheels, but I don't want it tooooo dark
thank you for making this video all my OEM wheels are bent so I was thinking about these but definitely not happening now.
No problem. What are you leaning towards now?
Great video! I almost pulled the trigger on some reps from aodhan and the fact that customer service sounds pretty bad fck that! A company that stands by their product is everything.
Here in Hawaii the county will pay all expenses you spent in repairing your rims as long as you justified it that you hit a pot hole causing your tire and rim damages. Of course you need to take a picture of the where the incident occurred.
Thanks for sharing!
Does the bmw center cap fit?
They told me 18s doesnt fit over the bmw blue brake calipers
The color doesn't always indicate the size of the caliper. In this case they went over fine. It really depends on barrel of the wheel though
Dude, thanks! I was thinking AFF7s 19x8.5 for my Model 3, but was skeptical and this really helps me to, well, not consider them!
No problem. What are you looking at now?
Smaller tire = less protection too the wheel. Especially with your ride height no reason to run that tiny of a tire.
Plenty of reason. Looks and less likely to fold over the sidewall if your at the track. If it’s stretched tho that’s purely for looks.
Potholes are 100% impact damage. Outside influence. I’d be surprised if any company would replace your wheel for you for hitting a pothole or anything else. It’s not a defect in the product.
It’s too bad that you want to knock this company for not wanting to replace something that you damaged. Accident or not.
It's too bad that a company didn't honor their warranty as it was written. If it wasn't a problem then why did they change ther warrant?
Apex wheels and Rex Racing Wheels will warranty pothole damage.
Replace the wheel/tire but keep the dented one as your ‘full size’ spare
Great minds think alike. That's exactly what I did👍
I don't get your negativity towards the wheel company. In what world is hitting a pothole a manufacturer defect?
Never claimed it was a manufacturer defect
@@FritzRamos But, that's what a Manufacturer's warranty covers.
@@TomZ23 manufacturers make their warranties whatever they want. Some include only manufacturer defects, others covers more. To claim that it will hold up to normal road use and potholes are normal in California from a California company is a deceiving practice.
Are these cast wheels?
Did you pay with credit card? I'd consider filing dispute since they're not keeping their warranty terms.
I already paid it. Hopefully CalTrans covers it
Fitment Industries offers a 2yr warranty for $16 per wheel, full refund of the damaged wheel, no questions ask. FI has all the Aodhan wheels and all of them cost about 10% less than the Aodhan site, which it is much more than 16 per wheel, justifies buying the warranty. FI also offer military discount.
*To Aodhan defense, a pothole is not normal road conditions, that, imo, is an impact, but that is just my opinion.
You can also check your CC warranty, usually it is from six to twelve months. To say a quick story, once I dropped my cell phone, CC refunded the phone.
Fritz, don’t risk your well being driving on that damaged rim. Support another local Co., get it repaired at a local hydroforming shop. And, what about bronzing your original wheels?
Thank you for that. I wanted to go to a square setup, but I've seen the bronze OEM rims and they look real nice.
There is also a shop here in Honolulu who can repair dented rims. I went there and charged me $125 repair cost.
That's a steal! Thanks for sharing
DO NOT BUY IT IF YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA,..IT WILL TAKE A SMALL POT HOLE AND IT'S GAME OVER.
Even the best wheel will bend or crack when hitting bad potholes.
That wasn't the point
OMG you're in Hayward! I work in Berkeley. Would love to meet up with you sometime!!
Put holes can be really scary for your tires and rims. Good that you’re not going cheap on the tires though.
Very true!
Why would you cheap out on the one thing that connects your car to the road? Thats just stupid
So you dented your rim (it didn’t break mind you) and couldn’t get someone else to pay for it or replace it. Problecito. Your complaining about a “technicality” but that is exactly what you are trying to use for your argument. A big pothole is obviously not “normal” road conditions.
I'm sure they felt the same way, that's why they changed their warranty policy...
I would recommend buying a new one man, you can find your specific size and offset on eBay and then you could at least keep a spare
I laughed out load. You hit a pothole with a thunderous boom and undersized tire. They appear to have held up well. Although I can understand you argument, you are just plain wrong. A pothole is an impact. I just bent an expensive Vossen wheel on a pothole and was pissed at myself, not them.
If you understand the argument then how is it wrong? Potholes are normal in California, this is a California company therefore a California company should know that that their wheels will be subject to potholes. Try looking at APEX's warranty, they're another California based company. If Aodhan didn't want to cover potholes why didn't they exclude it in their warranty? It's because they want people to assume that it's covered and then try to hide behind a technicality, especially when they know about this video. My tire was not undersized, if their wheels can only be supported by a certain tire size then they should also say that.
@@FritzRamos apex clearly states they do not cover an impact caused by a pothole as stated below.
This limited warranty does not cover any damage arising from the improper fitment for the intended vehicle, mishandling during transit, damage caused by tire mounting equipment, damage during vehicle installation, or otherwise caused by unintended use such as off-roading, going off the paved track surface, contact with other vehicles, impact with potholes, curbs, berms, barriers, objects in the road, or impact with other road and track hazards, or applications that exceed the wheel’s indicated load rating. Rim cracks or bends are not warrantable if there is a clear sign of impact that caused the damage.
@@jaredh8555 Right, now compare it to Aodhan's
@@FritzRamos Both companies state they warranty workmanship. I’m having a hard time with you thinking they would cover this. If you damaged your suspension in the same incident, you would expect BMW to repair it right? They would laugh you out of the dealership. I’ll leave it at this, you can think what you want and I’ll think what I want. I do enjoy your videos though.
@@jaredh8555 The point is APEX details what their warranty does and does not cover, they don't leave it up to you to guess. As a company who has to maintain their bottom line, why not at least make a more detailed explanation since this event? Thanks, KW does warranty some of their shocks out and the ones they don't they specifically exclude.
What did u expect the wheels to not bend after hitting a huge pothole? Lol
Some wheels don't
@@FritzRamos I think the quality help up...could have been worse, but the rim held the air and didn't crack...your profile tire is low...it's bound to happen.
You probably gave them too much detail. Be a little bit more vague next time. Just say the damage was under normal road conditions. if they pry just continue to say under normal road conditions. Treat them like they’re cops.
Looks like he's holding a block of cheese in the intro
A rim made out of cheese, I would eat it!
Was gonna get Aodhan's but they lost a potential customer, good video sir.
Thanks 👍. Please share what you end up going with.
@@FritzRamos Think I'm gonna go get ESR RF1's but I don't think their warranty is any better than aodhans, do you know any company that will match half of a damaged wheel?
@@AlexxTehGreat Apex lol
Really lucky I scored a set of forged wheels for 1k.. but if anything bad happens to em, I'll have to be paying the price in full aahhh
What?! How did you pull that off?
@@FritzRamos New company, one of their reps had to let go of the wheels because he needed to sell his m240. They reached out to me with the deal and I couldn’t refuse. Only was on the guys car for a month, basically brand new
I honestly think you likely would have dented the stock wheel
There a place in Oakland they fixes wheels.
Just saw your other comment. Thanks man.
Talking like u know what cold weather and potholes r. Try living in the northeast by NYC 😂
So I guess these wheels won't make it out there either 😆
Those wheels wouldn’t make it out of my driveway 😂
So - When are the new APEX wheels going on? FL-5 's for sure.
I'm more of a fan of the EC-7's, but they don't come in bronze
California may not pay for your wheel but they might be interested to know that a California company is not honoring their advertised warranty
Is called team three wheels
Sweet. Thanks man. I'll give them a call tomorrow
I hope Aodhan is regretting not granting your warranty now. I'd love to see you try and fix that bend yourself... that'd be a good video. Cheers!
Thank you and I am leaning in that direction.
this... is a commercial.