Distracted by visitors who keep interrupting her work at home, Rhoda opens an office and soon learns about the problems faced by a woman launching her own business. Air Date: February 10, 1975
LOL, the building manager insisting Joe sign the lease...reminds me of the Ford dealership salesman that kept telling me my husband should come with me to choose my new car when hubby didn't know fuel injection from positive crankcase ventilation (but I did). Two weeks later I went back to the Ford dealership and asked that salesman to come outside...to see my new Chevy Camaro Z28. :))
@@sueb6662 we’d hurry back to play recess with the bus rider kids who had to stay for school lunch. We had recess morning, lunch and afternoon. And gym every day- even in elementary school. They kept us moving!
For someone who is SO worried about loosing her husband, she was VERY BRAVE to throw him out of the house and send him to the Park for lunch!! And then she Accepted Her Sister In!! I really Do wish the Writers did not SPLIT them Up! There was NO reason for Rhoda and Joe to split up - i have to write my Own series i think :) From Season 2 onwards it will be Different! No Divorce & a couple of grandchildren :)
Feologild very true because the first two seasons were in the top ten Neilsen rating then plummeted as the remaining years dragged on and finished 95th in the ratings
Barbara Sharma, who played Myrna Morgensteen, was an interesting character. She first appeared a couple years before this on Mary's show as Randee, who was one of the worst waitresses you can possibly imagine! She did really well in the part, but they had her play someone completely different on Rhoda. Well - the one commonality was the Myrna had no problem with doing one-nighters in order to get new business, and neither did Randee.
I don't understand why everyone razzes on Joe all the time. He is always smiling, being supportive to Rhoda, compliments her, gives her her way, doesn't get mad a lot, helps her, has a great sense of humor, he didn't even complain when she kicked him out to go to park, and laughed and kissed her when she explained about her using her maiden name. To me he seems wonderful.
....the writers wanted 'Joe' to be the "Macho Man" to butt heads with Rhoda's "Liberated Woman"....but when they saw 'Joe' didn't have anything to add (comedically), they went out to make HIM look bad, to get Rhoda back as a Single Woman..by the 3rd Season, he became the VILLAIN, and the show suffered GREATLY, for it....
it does feel good, BUT towards the end eh got jerky. didnt want to be married. rhoda fought to keep married. and he pulled away-ruined it.. it ruined the show. it really did. when she was single show was great, when they married it was terrific, but when they started to have trouble and the show turned sad, it sucked. it ended badly.
I think it was brilliant that they made Joe's character a demolition expert as he was so good at wrecking. But I really loved this show as a kid & love re-watching the episodes.
Such a weird thing about actors, that non-actors never seem to understand. They can play a role in one production, and then play a completely different role in another production. Weird, eh?
12:52 - Louis Guss played tons of characters like that...auto mechanics, janitors, TV repairman, furniture mover, Grub hub delivery man...lol Before there was Grubhub!
He hears I finally get to watch Mary Tyler Moore and rotors Rota shows again how cool I enjoy them when I was a young girl and now I enjoy them as a older woman good shows great shows when shows
The actor who played Mr. Pennick in this episode, went on to play Carol Kester's husband (Larry Bondurant) on The Bob Newhart Show. Also produced by the MTM production company. More cross-pollination!!
..Rhoda owning her own business was TRULY showing the dichotomies of the 'Liberated Woman' & the 'Macho Man', that were BOTH at their peak(s) in 1975; The show was actually dropping VERY early signs that this relationship wouldn't make it....changing times, brings on changing FEELINGS... (16:15)...
I no longer find it surprising their marriage didn't make it. Rewatching from the beginning, there are a lot of little signs that point in that direction IMO.
I agree....two things that bothered me were as follows.... First, Rhoda actually kicked her husband out of their own home when he literally took the time to come home on his lunch to spend it with her. I would love to have a husband someday be that thoughtful and attentive, not to mention romantic.🎊😃🥰 I'd throw the job to the side and do the best I could with it later. A job you may or may not get? Who cares, there will always be jobs on earth til you die and go to be with Jesus :)👑 Husband coming home to spend his lunch hour with you? "PRICELESS." 🧡💜🧡💜🧡💜💜 The second thing was that she chose to put her maiden name on her business. It was almost like saying I still prefer to keep my old single name. I'd have been SUPER PROUD to use my married name!! Who cares if your old clients knew you as another name.....People get married ALL the time, every day. The clients will be ok!! And if they're not, her new ones!! Your marriage and making you husband proud and part of your business is WAYYYYY higher priority than what others think. Ridiculous. Plus a foreshadowing IMO that she actually would get to keep her last name again, eventually. Stupid.
Sometimes Rhoda acts like her job is in physics, like she works at NASA. In my small town the owners of the local stores did their own windows. No window decorator did it. What if Rhoda was single, she'd not have gotten the office? Rhoda should have stayed single, she really wanted to always be able to do her own thing, on her terms. When you are married, you can't live that way.The man with the lease had been on lots of stuff.
She lived in Manhattan… NYC is one of-the fashion Capitol’s of the world …. They pay for window dressers. Also, her job is a creative process. She went to art school and like any artistic endeavors requires a lot of concentrated time as design all projects do. Plus, Rhoda is a character .. it’s not real… however, her job was realistic for the times then and now…
@@molliwilson5639 capitals, not Capitol's. Please don't abuse the apostrophe. It doesn't make things plural. Also please don't abuse uppercase letters. They don't make anything more important or interesting. I won't go into the "-tal" vs "-tol" thing; I leave that as an exercise for the writer.
April Chaplain Now that I've watched a lot more episodes, I realize Rhoda AND Joe both could be jerks to each other. In some episodes, he acted like the bigger jerk & in other episodes, she acted like more of a jerk than him. Just depended on which episode you're seeing at the time.
Absolutely. Valerie Harper herself said she was looking for a guy who looked good in jeans, some hot guy - by '70s standards, when the dark, 'Italian Stallion' type was in vogue - who would prove that Rhoda didn't have to settle for losers anymore. The whole idea was that he was hot and sexy - and his blowing up over the tiniest thing was supposed to prove how much 'spark' there was in the relationship. But Joe had no sense of humor and a lot of self-absorption. I really wanted her to end up with Jonas who she dated in the MTM show. He was smart, funny, quirky, clearly liked and enjoyed Rhoda's company and thought she was more beautiful than Mary (I agree). They had better chemistry than Rhoda and Mr Pants.
It was supposed to be a sign of the 'spark' in their relationship, this volatile 'chemistry' that would send them both to bed: in the '70s, 'love' meant 'spontaneous sex with anyone who got your blood moving'. Frankly, I always thought Joe was ugly and couldn't see the attraction and never felt there was any spark, probably because Joe is completely dull and without any sense of humor and no wit. Maybe they wrote him with no funny lines, but I can't imagine Rhoda with someone who is so dull-witted that he never says anything clever or funny.
A few episodes ago, people complained on that page about the word "awesome" being overused here since the 1980s. But it's 1975 in this episode and at 2:37, Rhoda said it. :)
I never felt that Rhoda was really in love with Joe. I think she was in love with the idea of having a husband. She always seemed to be walking on egg shells around him.
Thank the women in the seventies for paving the way for you to have these options. My mom worked in the financial district in a major city in the mid seventies in a non-secretarial role (because that is nearly all women represented at the time in that world). She broke down doors and barriers for the generations that followed, the stories she tells me are incredible. I remember as I kid visiting her at her office, by this time she was an executive, and there wasn't another woman in sight except for her assistant. When I talk to young women now about the type of issues she dealt with in her time, or even me in my time, they can't rationalize it :) We have come a long way, baby!
Good to know your housepainting business takes you out of your home. Otherwise you'd just be painting and repainting your own house forever. Who pays for that?
Joe really grates on me with his pissy whining in this episode. He talks the talk about being supportive of Rhoda's career, but when the rubber meets the road, he can't walk the walk. He's not getting enough attention, Rhoda's not home enough, blah, blah, blah. Stow it, Joe!
Yeah, except he's supposed to be every feminist's fantasy man. Brenda described him as 'sensitive.' Then we see how 'sensitive' he is when he crouches down in front of his son (from a broken home) to 'sensitively' tell him that dad expected to 'have a good time tonight' and so his son has to be dumped with a baby-sitter in the few hours he gets with his father. Then he tells Rhoda he has Knicks tickets for the NEXT night and invites her - no thought of inviting his son who is standing right there. He can be dumped with a baby-sitter again so Dad can go and have fun. Joe is the epitome of 'me-generation' selfishness. People were supposed to 'find themselves' and pursue 'self-realization' and nobody was supposed to get in their way - not a spouse they promised to love, honor and cherish; not children they brought into the world; not elderly parents; not duty to country or society. Me, me, me was the cry of the '70s. Rhoda is SUPPOSED to actualize herself, and Joe is SUPPOSED to actualize himself, and as long as there's great sex somehow, they will stay married 'as long as we both shall love' and nobody interferes with the other person's total self-absorption.
It is kind of an interesting thought that. I never had before but I am wondering if the show never should have had her married. She would have been interesting single and many different men could have been around. May have competed with the MTM show to a degree though.
Meir Wise Blame the male writers who were pressured to make Rhoda a strong woman in the 1970s. The American viewers must have sent in a lot of fan mail to support Rhoda and Brenda as strong women. The earlier episodes in this season was written by a female writer. The rest were men. Don't forget Joe was a character to support the main lead of a series.
Valerie Harper wanted a 'hottie' to be her male lead, to show that Rhoda was now so attractive she didn't have to date 'losers' anymore. The idea was that Joe was 'volatile' and it made a sexy 'spark' between them. His inability to control his temper as well as his being a jerk were supposed to show how they had volatile 'sexual chemistry.' I never, ever saw it, even when this was on TV originally. He just seemed like an ugly a-hole and absolutely NOT a good match for Rhoda. He doesn't have her wit, her smarts, her self-deprecating humor or her ability to be truly supportive. She should have married Jonas, the paleontologist who was smart and funny and thought Rhoda was much more attractive than Mary. He was her mental equal and also clearly liked and respected her as a person. Joe's just a self-absorbed loser.
I wanted to add to the comments about the change in Joe's character during the later seasons and the subsequent divorce. That abrupt change felt like the writers not respecting their audience. They didn't realize or didn't care that the audience becomes invested in the characters. We know they're fiction, but we still have an emotional attachment to them. Most fans liked the Joe of the first two seasons, we enjoyed the interplay between him and Rhoda and we didn't want to see them get divorced. Maybe some did, I can't speak for everyone, but I know the majority thought they were a good couple. But the writers and/or producers decided that Rhoda wasn't good as a married woman, so they decided to break her and Joe up in a way that just made the audience sad and frustrated. It was a terrible, short sighted decision and ruined a show that could have gone on a lot more than 4 seasons.
You're talking about why doesn't Rhoda go home, maybe because they have bills to pay Joe I almost lost his business in another episode, he's not in a position to support the household in my opinion.
Should have left them married. Rhoda and Joe could have had kids. Ida and Martin as grandparents would have been great. Maybe they would have stuck with the show for season 3. As for the divorce they really needed Nancy Walker. It would have been funny to see how she would have acted to the whole thing. It might have made that season not so depressing.
seeing family every day for me it is not healthy that finally will soon change though there are some do not see at all and that works for me just fine , never see half of them again that is even better and so far it is working , and hope it works more
The Joe character was a mistake or wrong casting. He really added nothing to the show comedy wise. Rhoda should’ve stayed single because that what made her even funnier. I love this show but always disliked the series theme song and graphics.
Yes! I totally agree about Joe's character. I would have liked to see Rhoda single until maybe the last season, then show her getting married and leave the rest to our imagination.
LOL, the building manager insisting Joe sign the lease...reminds me of the Ford dealership salesman that kept telling me my husband should come with me to choose my new car when hubby didn't know fuel injection from positive crankcase ventilation (but I did). Two weeks later I went back to the Ford dealership and asked that salesman to come outside...to see my new Chevy Camaro Z28. :))
What does a PCV valve have to do with a fuel delivery system?
OoooWeee🤣😅😆😁🤣😅😆😁🤣😅
Love this tv show
Wow, remembering when people went home for lunch... We used to walk home from school for lunch
That's amazing we always had lunch at school.. would be nice to have had lunch at home!
@@sueb6662 we’d hurry back to play recess with the bus rider kids who had to stay for school lunch. We had recess morning, lunch and afternoon. And gym every day- even in elementary school. They kept us moving!
Sue B We thought it was a treat to take lunch to school! It didn't happen very often.
I love the sister relationship between Rhoda & Brenda they are friends as well as sisters and can tell each other secrets.
PernellsBabe00 I wish we had seen more of Brenda in this episode. She's often very funny.
Same they have such a great relationship its a pleasure to watch...they're sisters and friends at the same time.
I wish I had a sister like that
The part about working from home is still so true!!!
It works for me, but then I have less social life than Brenda.
For someone who is SO worried about loosing her husband, she was VERY BRAVE to throw him out of the house and send him to the Park for lunch!! And then she Accepted Her Sister In!! I really Do wish the Writers did not SPLIT them Up! There was NO reason for Rhoda and Joe to split up - i have to write my Own series i think :) From Season 2 onwards it will be Different! No Divorce & a couple of grandchildren :)
I can't even imagine Rhoda with children.
@@Sonder0077 Joanna didn't mention children. Rhoda was going to go straight to grandchildren.
@@ericminch :)
@@ericminch Grandchildren for Rhoda's parents :) that's what i meant :)
Still missing U miss Valerie Harper 👑🌟
I'm fallin asleep with Rhoda tonight!😊💕🌃🌉🌌😴📺
I think when I retire I want to be a doorman and call myself Carlton.
Congratulations…. You got your life all planned out!😀
Love this old school show very entertaining 😀 love Rhoda
I love this show. I wish the reruns were on TV more.
They prefer the man of the house sign it...Woooaaa! Good to see the audience reaction! Ladies back then paid the way for us today
And America was ruined because of feminism
I like this episode. It was upbeat 😊 And I love Myra.
Love love love Myra too!
Myrna (not Myra) 😉
I randomly came over this show here on youtube. I really like season 1 and season 2 but i think it goes down after that.
Feologild very true because the first two seasons were in the top ten Neilsen rating then plummeted as the remaining years dragged on and finished 95th in the ratings
Barbara Sharma, who played Myrna Morgensteen, was an interesting character. She first appeared a couple years before this on Mary's show as Randee, who was one of the worst waitresses you can possibly imagine! She did really well in the part, but they had her play someone completely different on Rhoda. Well - the one commonality was the Myrna had no problem with doing one-nighters in order to get new business, and neither did Randee.
I don't understand why everyone razzes on Joe all the time. He is always smiling, being supportive to Rhoda, compliments her, gives her her way, doesn't get mad a lot, helps her, has a great sense of humor, he didn't even complain when she kicked him out to go to park, and laughed and kissed her when she explained about her using her maiden name. To me he seems wonderful.
Agreed. He is supportive of Brenda also.
It's because the later seasons. He seems like a good guy for Rhoda.
....the writers wanted 'Joe' to be the "Macho Man" to butt heads with Rhoda's "Liberated Woman"....but when they saw 'Joe' didn't have anything to add (comedically), they went out to make HIM look bad, to get Rhoda back as a Single Woman..by the 3rd Season, he became the VILLAIN, and the show suffered GREATLY, for it....
Yes! I love Joe!
it does feel good, BUT towards the end eh got jerky. didnt want to be married. rhoda fought to keep married. and he pulled away-ruined it.. it ruined the show. it really did. when she was single show was great, when they married it was terrific, but when they started to have trouble and the show turned sad, it sucked. it ended badly.
I think it was brilliant that they made Joe's character a demolition expert as he was so good at wrecking. But I really loved this show as a kid & love re-watching the episodes.
Joe was a big selfish baby, it’s so sad he left I still cry when he leaves 😢every time
So Garfield is her doorman. (Lorenzo Music did the voice for Garfield in the 80s TV cartoons).
Zoomer30 and the sister is Marge Simpson.
Yes!
Such a weird thing about actors, that non-actors never seem to understand. They can play a role in one production, and then play a completely different role in another production. Weird, eh?
12:52 - Louis Guss played tons of characters like that...auto mechanics, janitors, TV repairman, furniture mover, Grub hub delivery man...lol Before there was Grubhub!
I somehow think that this window decoration job is the inspiration for Will & Grace.
Grace did not window dress, she was an interior designer.
I couldn’t figure out who her voice reminded me of
He hears I finally get to watch Mary Tyler Moore and rotors Rota shows again how cool
I enjoy them when I was a young girl and now I enjoy them as a older woman good shows great shows when shows
The actor who played Mr. Pennick in this episode, went on to play Carol Kester's husband (Larry Bondurant) on The Bob Newhart Show. Also produced by the MTM production company. More cross-pollination!!
..Rhoda owning her own business was TRULY showing the dichotomies of the 'Liberated Woman' & the 'Macho Man', that were BOTH at their peak(s) in 1975; The show was actually dropping VERY early signs that this relationship wouldn't make it....changing times, brings on changing FEELINGS... (16:15)...
Rhoda's colored pen caddy looks like it came right from the WJM newsroom set on Mary Tyler Moore. 😊
the land lord on this show is Carol from the Bob Newhart shows husband ! he called Carol - Big RED - ! thanks
Yeah he played Larry her husband. Completely opposite kind of guy.
Love this episode.
I no longer find it surprising their marriage didn't make it. Rewatching from the beginning, there are a lot of little signs that point in that direction IMO.
I agree....two things that bothered me were as follows.... First, Rhoda actually kicked her husband out of their own home when he literally took the time to come home on his lunch to spend it with her. I would love to have a husband someday be that thoughtful and attentive, not to mention romantic.🎊😃🥰 I'd throw the job to the side and do the best I could with it later. A job you may or may not get? Who cares, there will always be jobs on earth til you die and go to be with Jesus :)👑 Husband coming home to spend his lunch hour with you? "PRICELESS." 🧡💜🧡💜🧡💜💜
The second thing was that she chose to put her maiden name on her business. It was almost like saying I still prefer to keep my old single name. I'd have been SUPER PROUD to use my married name!! Who cares if your old clients knew you as another name.....People get married ALL the time, every day. The clients will be ok!! And if they're not, her new ones!! Your marriage and making you husband proud and part of your business is WAYYYYY higher priority than what others think. Ridiculous. Plus a foreshadowing IMO that she actually would get to keep her last name again, eventually. Stupid.
Such a cute episode.
I beat out 20 people and a cheetah!!🤣
Myrna's hair 😍
It was awesome ...
Rhoda's friend Myrna had the prettiest red hair.
Spot on !
I love this page. Thank you!!!!!
Sometimes Rhoda acts like her job is in physics, like she works at NASA. In my small town the owners of the local stores did their own windows. No window decorator did it. What if Rhoda was single, she'd not have gotten the office? Rhoda should have stayed single, she really wanted to always be able to do her own thing, on her terms. When you are married, you can't live that way.The man with the lease had been on lots of stuff.
She lived in Manhattan… NYC is one of-the fashion Capitol’s of the world …. They pay for window dressers. Also, her job is a creative process. She went to art school and like any artistic endeavors requires a lot of concentrated time as design all projects do.
Plus, Rhoda is a character .. it’s not real… however, her job was realistic for the times then and now…
@@molliwilson5639 capitals, not Capitol's. Please don't abuse the apostrophe. It doesn't make things plural. Also please don't abuse uppercase letters. They don't make anything more important or interesting. I won't go into the "-tal" vs "-tol" thing; I leave that as an exercise for the writer.
no she is the one that signed the lease so if she would have gotten the office
Yeah but they weren't exactly rolling in dough either. Remember when he almost lost his biz...
The more I watch this season,,, the more Im not liking Joe,,, I think he is all wrong for Rhoda :-(
April Chaplain Now that I've watched a lot more episodes, I realize Rhoda AND Joe both could be jerks to each other. In some episodes, he acted like the bigger jerk & in other episodes, she acted like more of a jerk than him. Just depended on which episode you're seeing at the time.
He was an ass.
Absolutely. Valerie Harper herself said she was looking for a guy who looked good in jeans, some hot guy - by '70s standards, when the dark, 'Italian Stallion' type was in vogue - who would prove that Rhoda didn't have to settle for losers anymore.
The whole idea was that he was hot and sexy - and his blowing up over the tiniest thing was supposed to prove how much 'spark' there was in the relationship.
But Joe had no sense of humor and a lot of self-absorption. I really wanted her to end up with Jonas who she dated in the MTM show. He was smart, funny, quirky, clearly liked and enjoyed Rhoda's company and thought she was more beautiful than Mary (I agree). They had better chemistry than Rhoda and Mr Pants.
It was supposed to be a sign of the 'spark' in their relationship, this volatile 'chemistry' that would send them both to bed: in the '70s, 'love' meant 'spontaneous sex with anyone who got your blood moving'. Frankly, I always thought Joe was ugly and couldn't see the attraction and never felt there was any spark, probably because Joe is completely dull and without any sense of humor and no wit. Maybe they wrote him with no funny lines, but I can't imagine Rhoda with someone who is so dull-witted that he never says anything clever or funny.
I loved her with Jonas!!! I did too!!
A few episodes ago, people complained on that page about the word "awesome" being overused here since the 1980s. But it's 1975 in this episode and at 2:37, Rhoda said it. :)
+YankeeJet24 She said "awful" not awesome.
Personally I love the word. It is a GOOD word, but she did say awful but to me it did sound like "awesome"
today we have the extra grammatical use of the word like. that drives me crazy
Awesome is overused now!!!
Ever notice that Rhoda never calls Joe Honey or babe? Seems that way to me anyway. He always greets her with one of those nicknames.
I never felt that Rhoda was really in love with Joe. I think she was in love with the idea of having a husband. She always seemed to be walking on egg shells around him.
@@Sonder0077 Absolutely!!!
I have my own business, and my office is at home. I have a house painting business, and I work outside of home. No one bothers me.
You did not have Rhoda's family to start.
Thank the women in the seventies for paving the way for you to have these options. My mom worked in the financial district in a major city in the mid seventies in a non-secretarial role (because that is nearly all women represented at the time in that world).
She broke down doors and barriers for the generations that followed, the stories she tells me are incredible. I remember as I kid visiting her at her office, by this time she was an executive, and there wasn't another woman in sight except for her assistant.
When I talk to young women now about the type of issues she dealt with in her time, or even me in my time, they can't rationalize it :)
We have come a long way, baby!
Well I guess u work outside of home different circumstances altogether
Good to know your housepainting business takes you out of your home. Otherwise you'd just be painting and repainting your own house forever. Who pays for that?
Joe really grates on me with his pissy whining in this episode. He talks the talk about being supportive of Rhoda's career, but when the rubber meets the road, he can't walk the walk. He's not getting enough attention, Rhoda's not home enough, blah, blah, blah. Stow it, Joe!
SPOILER ALERT................
They get divorced in a year or so.
Melanie Hamilton That's how a guy like that would act in the mid-70s. Feminism took A LONG TIME to take hold. Still hasn't.
Yeah, except he's supposed to be every feminist's fantasy man. Brenda described him as 'sensitive.' Then we see how 'sensitive' he is when he crouches down in front of his son (from a broken home) to 'sensitively' tell him that dad expected to 'have a good time tonight' and so his son has to be dumped with a baby-sitter in the few hours he gets with his father. Then he tells Rhoda he has Knicks tickets for the NEXT night and invites her - no thought of inviting his son who is standing right there. He can be dumped with a baby-sitter again so Dad can go and have fun.
Joe is the epitome of 'me-generation' selfishness. People were supposed to 'find themselves' and pursue 'self-realization' and nobody was supposed to get in their way - not a spouse they promised to love, honor and cherish; not children they brought into the world; not elderly parents; not duty to country or society. Me, me, me was the cry of the '70s. Rhoda is SUPPOSED to actualize herself, and Joe is SUPPOSED to actualize himself, and as long as there's great sex somehow, they will stay married 'as long as we both shall love' and nobody interferes with the other person's total self-absorption.
It is kind of an interesting thought that. I never had before but I am wondering if the show never should have had her married. She would have been interesting single and many different men could have been around. May have competed with the MTM show to a degree though.
When he says on the phone "what do you think I'm doing here?" I really wish the writers had given Rhoda the snappy retort of "learning to cook?"
I love Rhoda but her self depreciation is nauseating😞
How does she manage it, maybe 15% per annum?
thanks
I mean can you blame a guy for wanting to see his newlywed wife? Why get married just to both get full time jobs and never see each other
but it was okay for men to do that?
If ur broke sometimes u gotta
Joe never deserved Rhoda.
Meir Wise Blame the male writers who were pressured to make Rhoda a strong woman in the 1970s. The American viewers must have sent in a lot of fan mail to support Rhoda and Brenda as strong women. The earlier episodes in this season was written by a female writer. The rest were men. Don't forget Joe was a character to support the main lead of a series.
Valerie Harper wanted a 'hottie' to be her male lead, to show that Rhoda was now so attractive she didn't have to date 'losers' anymore. The idea was that Joe was 'volatile' and it made a sexy 'spark' between them. His inability to control his temper as well as his being a jerk were supposed to show how they had volatile 'sexual chemistry.' I never, ever saw it, even when this was on TV originally. He just seemed like an ugly a-hole and absolutely NOT a good match for Rhoda. He doesn't have her wit, her smarts, her self-deprecating humor or her ability to be truly supportive.
She should have married Jonas, the paleontologist who was smart and funny and thought Rhoda was much more attractive than Mary. He was her mental equal and also clearly liked and respected her as a person. Joe's just a self-absorbed loser.
@@FigaroHey I lied her with Jonas on the MTM show.
He never brought out the funny side in Rhoda.
Meir Wise Its a fucking TV show, get over it.
Honey please now they don't care who signs as long as they can get you into more debt 😩 yeah girl sign here 😆
I wanted to add to the comments about the change in Joe's character during the later seasons and the subsequent divorce. That abrupt change felt like the writers not respecting their audience. They didn't realize or didn't care that the audience becomes invested in the characters. We know they're fiction, but we still have an emotional attachment to them. Most fans liked the Joe of the first two seasons, we enjoyed the interplay between him and Rhoda and we didn't want to see them get divorced. Maybe some did, I can't speak for everyone, but I know the majority thought they were a good couple.
But the writers and/or producers decided that Rhoda wasn't good as a married woman, so they decided to break her and Joe up in a way that just made the audience sad and frustrated. It was a terrible, short sighted decision and ruined a show that could have gone on a lot more than 4 seasons.
it had 5 seasons although the 5th season was only half! 5 seasons is a good run for a show, but I agree it could have been 7 like most classic shows
You're talking about why doesn't Rhoda go home, maybe because they have bills to pay Joe I almost lost his business in another episode, he's not in a position to support the household in my opinion.
Should have left them married. Rhoda and Joe could have had kids. Ida and Martin as grandparents would have been great. Maybe they would have stuck with the show for season 3. As for the divorce they really needed Nancy Walker. It would have been funny to see how she would have acted to the whole thing. It might have made that season not so depressing.
seeing family every day for me it is not healthy that finally will soon change though there are some do not see at all and that works for me just fine , never see half of them again that is even better and so far it is working , and hope it works more
WHY do the actors always say to whoever they're with, who is on the phone, when they said just hello and the person's name???
So The Waltons
@Sheila Latham. I love The Waltons!!
The Joe character was a mistake or wrong casting. He really added nothing to the show comedy wise. Rhoda should’ve stayed single because that what made her even funnier. I love this show but always disliked the series theme song and graphics.
Yes! I totally agree about Joe's character. I would have liked to see Rhoda single until maybe the last season, then show her getting married and leave the rest to our imagination.
Rhoda wasn't even working at the office. Why didn't she just go home to Joe?
There were signs that their marriage had cracks in it.
They are a total mis- match
I think Joe was great but Rhoda was too desperate and clingy
I never liked that Joe guy.
Mary Tyler Moore show
I would never marry such a clingy baby as Joe LOL! Thanks goodness his type is going extinct. And thank goodness my husband isn't a 'Joe'.
He was a manu till prod user stupidly ad hi id divorcees there's not too much of that in real life
I love how people on here get so intense with the plot. Like this is fucking real life. It’s a damn TV show, get over yourselves.
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