Great video. The only piece of advice I can offer is to not worry too much about going 11/11, especially when going off the rack. Depending on how you are built, it can get quite hard to nail each aspect. Do your best to hit as many of the marks you can and you'll look great, especially during this current 'loose fit' meta.
This is so true. I bought a suit jacket 10 years ago that seems perfect on the shoulders and the overall length seems right. But it can be seen as too wide or loose if buttoned (which can be fixed by hemming the sides) but I like wearing it opened and I think it looks good and even a friend of mine who is usually critical clothing said it looks good on me.
Thank you for producing a good quality video on the importance of fit. Most men's fashion videos these days are all the same. They preface on the assumption that all men are skinny, scraggly, and have thin, chicken legs. If you're a dude who spends even just a few days a week working out in a gym then you're going to have bigger shoulders and upper arms, you're going to have a bigger chest, and you're going to have thighs and glutes. And if you don't work out then you're either obese or have a dad-bod with at least a bit of a belly. The average man today falls into one of these two latter categories, and seriously, how many times have you seen a fat guy in a skinny suit and thought it was a good look? The suits they're pushing as 'modern' now are too tight, and short and don't look masculine at all. I had a buddy who was suited like this for his wedding. The tailor kept telling him how good it looked, but he looked ridiculous. The jacket was so tight that he couldn't freely move his arms, and the pants were too short and tight. The suit looked at least two sizes too small, but the tailor kept telling him that this is the look that guys are wearing now. Maybe, but its not a good look for some. Form-fitting clothing look great on women with thin, curvy bodies but they NEVER look good on dudes. I took him to my 'old-school' tailor, and that dude fixed him up in a much better looking suit that fit him perfectly. Yes, it was 'traditional' and 'conservative' but it was also very masculine, and a really sharp look. A suit should fit one's body, not the tailor's idea of modernity. .
The dreaded collar gap has haunted me for years. I’ve even experienced it with higher end made-to-measure suits and jackets from in-person fittings. I’m in the process of my first bespoke suit now, hoping to defeat the gap monster forever.
One possible problem though. When you're in front of the mirror you automatically adjust your natural posture and stay straighter. Then the tailor takes your measurements, makes a suit and you return back to your natural posture. An experience tailor should know this though.
@@BrockMcGoff The first bespoke attempt was closer to a perfect collar fit but there was still a little bit of gap. The tailor said that it was the best he could do. I actually took the suit to another bespoke tailor to see if he could diagnose and fix the problem and he noticed that the collar was about 1/2" too long so he shortened it. Now it fits snug on my neck with no gap at all. My neck is 13 1/2" around and I think some tailors might have a mental block where they just won't go smaller than 14" for some reason. Just a theory.
@@newbassplayer4005 yes, but you have to be aware of the button stance becoming too low, and the pockets being too close to the hem (especially if you have patch pockets).
I got my first 'custom' suit from SuitSupply. Not a lot of alternations needed to be made. And I'm glad I caught those parts of the suit that needed fixing. Definitely nice to have a tailor help you out in making you look the best that you can!
Pants this tapered make the shoes look gigantic and put of proportion in my opinion. Especially if you have a larger shoe size, you start looking like a stickman on skis. Straight cut with full break give so much better proportions overall.
Great video Brock, I am looking at getting a new suit (grey). There are two general rules I keep in mind, wear a dress shirt to see how the jacket fits and a pair of dress shoes for the fit of the pant and break when being tailored. I am 5'5 with a medium/slim build. FYI, I would look into getting side adjusters for my pant.
Great video! Very in depth on the key areas. :) Speaking of getting clothes tailored you have great information on how to find a tailor and what is possible to have tailored. I find it really hard though on youtube or elsewhere to find any videos or guides with clear before and after pictures on how it can affect the fit and how much things can be changed.
That's an acceptable fit. It used to be known as the American sack fit and was the staple in America until the 50s. It's a very vintage look. Robert Downey Jnr also pulls that off when he's in a three piece. Recently Americans are blindly copying the svelte Continental fit, forgetting that that fit is meant for the slimmer European physique. So many "trendy" Americans look like clowns with their body hugging blouse fits and socks visible even when standing because they went comically no break.
Thank you for this video. My current off-the-rack jacket is "good enough" but not great in terms of fit, and this video helped me figure out the specific areas where the fit could be improved.
One point would like to add. A partial break is your safe bet as different shoes sit differently with your pants due to the heels or height construction of the shoes. You will notice your pants kissing some shoes while others barely touching it✌️
That's not British, that's a Zoot suit, guv'nor. The upper class British cut is famously generous in the waist and baggier at the thighs. Think King Charles and all the Lords. The hoi polloi in Britain may go curvier, but that's the Continental influence.
Does a British style favour closed quarters? I rather like a tapered waist with open quarters but not averse to the British shoulder structure and lapels.
Incredible video, really helped me understand what to look for. Can you link me to the grey vested suit you were wearing early in the video? That’s exactly the style and color I would like to find.
Is this a prophecy? I have been thinking of making a rich brown suit for a while. I even have made a mood board to narrow down what I want. And, bam, here is my favourite fashion figure talking about suit. Let me call my tailor for an appointment.
Awesome suit guide. I agree with 99% of it, the 1% being I don't like the look of pleated pants. feels outdated to me. but hey, to each his own. Love the cuff trick to make sure the jacket length is right. hadn't heard of that before but will definitely be putting into practice
Thank you for this! I actually went in and spent an hour getting fitted for a custom suit and it took several weeks for them to make it and send it to me and when I tried it... the jacket felt worse than any off-the-shelf suit I have had but I wasn't sure if that meant I just didn't know anything. This video helped me realize they F'd up and I will get a refit on Saturday as the movement in my arms on the MEASURED TAILORED suit is restrictive and barely moving raises the shoulders.
I wished I watched this before I went shopping I bought a blazer for 500 bucks from Hugo Boss and the sales person assured me it fit well but later I found out it is a sloppy fit even after they altered the sleeves, the cuffs still hit top of the knuckles and bottom a half inch below the crotch. I tried to return it or get a store credit and they refused, saying I chose the jacket. The next one will fit better. But hugo boss staff should not be trusted in assisting customers on the fit of a jacket.
Good video! Hit the key points. I'ma natural 41L so off-the-rack is a little challenging, but if I'm patient different makers sizes are all different. So I can get into a 42L slim in one mfr and 40L in another. I don't mind paying for custom tailoring if I save by o-t-r options.
Saved two of my Dad's old 100%wool italian suits and I'm hoping they can be tailored to my fit. First time realizing how sharp I look in a suit. Got alot of dressing up to do while I'm still in prime territory.
Thank god you acknowledge that fit is subjective-I feel like so many men's fashion youtubers out there give the impression that there's only one "correct" way to wear clothing.
Very little of a suit fit is subjective. For instance, jacket length, width, shoulders, collar, etc have hard and fast rules. Number of breaks in the trousers or sleeve length within set tolerances are less so
Good video, Brock! It's great that you could provide so much information in 12 minutes. Antonio would turn this into a capital project! Plus, he would tell you to buy a sewing machine and do your own tailoring! I like the way you broke things down. There is only one thing I would have added, and that is the taper of the pant. I find heavier guys look a little odd when the pant is too tapered. Things should be proportional to your size in my opinion. Thanks! 😊
I appreciate this video! I went to Men's Wearhouse to rent a tux and they measured me in my city and shipped it out to another state or atleast my measurements to a local retailer to where I traveled to. I looked like a frumpy mess the day of formal event, drowning in an unattractive tuxedo that made me look wide & square like SpongeBob. 😅 So now, I'm trying to build my own go-to collections so the embarrassment never happens again, and your video really helps. Thanks
People notice fit more than they notice fabric. Makes sense. Even the most ardent of fashionistas are not very well knowledgable about fabric because they get all their opinions from trends and guess work.
Friendly correction; arm hole can be altered. Depending on how much can be let out or taken in. Shoulder is a different complication better left alone.
Collar gaps might also be a consequence of big armholes on modern tailoring. Even MTM and some bespoke tailors still make their armholes kind of large which isn’t helpful. I’ve never got collar gaps with my vintage 40s suits tho.
For me the problem is a ridge between the shoulder blades. Happens with almost every suit/coat. I do have a very broad chest and shoulders and a slim waist (I'm a bodybuilder) but few off the rack suits fit my waist _and_ shoulders
most of my suits are of an eye'talian cut and in my wild travels i picked up a nice old sch soviet box cut suit and for banging about its a still a favourite
Some tips for a slim guy with a little tummy out. The waistcoat remains risen or lifted from front. Plz suggest how should it fit ? Also should the shirt sleeves be as fit as the jacket or a little loose ?
I went to Mens Wearhouse here in Utah, and found they are doing a custom suit deal for 400. Again, the material probably isn't like the greatest (I'm not real familiar with material so I'm assuming), but again, it will be a really good fit so I think it's worth it.
Another option is Jos. A. Banks for cheap “custom” suits. If you have one in your area. I think their fabric quality may be a little bit better for the same price or less. They are still not a Brioni. But, do you really need a Brioni?
Regarding "No Break" pants length. At 10:45 speaker says "I like no break, I think it looks really good, especially for ???? Guys". Did you say "shorter guys " , "taller guys " or what guys ? Thanks.
Thank you SO MUCH for this current look at men's suits. My son just appeared on TV and we realized that he desperately needs a correctly fitted suit. He is 24 years old, 6'2, 275 lb. Where should he look? He has had 2 suits before that no longer fit, and he's grown through several blue blazers. Do we go to a department store? Men's Wearhouse? An old school men's store? He works in central KY where clothes can be traditional which he doesn't mind, but he doesn't want to look 50. Custom is not an option due to cost. Approximately how much might he expect to have to pay? He will probably be buying a new navy blazer and khakis for more casual events especially in the south. I'd appreciate any advice you have. Thank you!
Thank you so much for your help I am kind of poor man I always like to look good I love suits thank for advice on the things I need to watch out of god bless your heart ❤.
I avoid buying a short suit off the rack because the sleeves are always too short. Any advise? I know custom is an option but as we all know that can be a bit pricey.
I enjoyed the informative video. I have a question. I'm curious about the length of the jacket you wore. I bought a sports jacket this time and it was 76.5cm long. I am about 174.5cm tall, so please let me know if the figures are appropriate. Thank you.
I just ordered and received a suit online. Gave measurements and everything but it doesn't seem to fit right or so I think. When buttoned up all the way, the front of the jacket at the bottom flares out to a point a good 3 or 4 inches from my waist and I don't know if it's supposed to do that...also the trousers don't seem to come up as high on the waist as I usually wear pants and such (which is usually just under the bellybutton but I have a bit of a gut so that's kind of an issue in itself) Do you think I need to get it altered?
AS A 1ST SUIT BUYER THIS IS SO HELPFUL. GOING FOR OFF THE RACK SUIT FROM DILLARD'S FOR NOW. THEN MAYBE TAILOR-MADE ON MY 2ND SUIT. ANY ADVICE WILL BE WELCOME.
Great video, however, no tips on double breasted suits. Following your suggestion on how tied the jacket should be, I think double breasted suits should be I bit looser to give you that elegant look. What do you think? I owned 32 suits, most of them taylored others from the rack, nothing in my opinion is more elegant than a double breasted suit and/or a well taylored three piece suit. I thank you for helping us men to wear suits the way they suppose to be. Some men, for the most part, are ignorant about ways to dress formally. They think than wearing a suit makes it dressing formally. I wish more men should watch your video.
I always liked the aesthetic, but it can be taken to an extreme (to the point where it doesn't actually make sense for most dressy occasions, like a job interview, funeral or wedding).
Thanks Brock. Long-time follower. I have started eating healthier and working out. I want to buy myself a few suits as soon as I feel I am the right size; sort of as a reward for sticking with the diet and exercise. The big thing is I now live in Asia, Thailand at the moment. I want to buy my first suit rather soon as I have lost enough weight and I will need it for business. The thing is the heat here is stifling, and I all ready have this thing where I feel so hot if I don’t have some breeze blowing on me. So no air flow and a suit equals sweating which I hate. If I want a suit that I can reduce the size later at a tailor, and that will work in the heat, what material(s) do you recommend? Also, there are lots of incredibly inexpensive suits here which I took to mean they’re “cheap.” However, one of my friends said they make some great suits here in Thailand at a fraction of the price found in other parts of the world. Any thoughts or experience/knowledge of buying in this part of the world? Also, I have several nice dress shirts. Can those be tailored, or should I have some dress shirts made for me? I read a review of a famous place here and the reviewer said he had dress shirts custom made and they’re the best fitting shirts he’s ever owned. But I have some semi-expensive Fredrick Taylor shirts that are 100% cotton or linen with French cuffs and my initials on them. Would like to keep them if they can be tailored. At the same time, perhaps there’s even a shirt material better for heat than what I own? I like the idea of suspenders, but wonder if that would make me feel hotter in the suit? Last question, if I get suspenders, what should the suspenders match? The belt? Shoes? Suit? Tie? Sort of lost there. Thanks so much in advance for your time and consideration. Wishing you happiness and prosperity. Cheers.
I'm not Brock but as a neighbour (I'm Malaysian) who likes to dress up I hope I can help you out here with a few of the questions. In my experience, the humidity in Southeast Asia is the main killjoy in dressing up instead of the heat itself. Even an unlined jacket made with an open weave fabric could not stop the humidity from causing massive perspiration in my experience. The great news is that in most occasions where a suit is required, the venue is often very heavily air-conditioned. This helps a great deal in wearing a suit in our localities. But I must state that a half/quarter-lined jacket with an open-weave fabric such as Minnis Fresco, Holland and Sherry Crispaire etc. does help A LOT compared to a fully lined "all-season" wool as most of these "all-season" wool from European mills are made for the European climate. You can also consider wool/silk/linen blend or hopsack wool. Linen is great too but it is an inherently casual fabric. It will not be as suitable for a board meeting, interview, funeral etc. Most suits can be altered to be smaller especially if it was initially made to your measurement. That means the shoulder and the length are already pretty settled in the dimensions. Usually we don't grow shorter in length and width of our shoulders that significantly so everything else is going to be ok for the tailor to alter. However if the suit is RTW, I would suggest you to look up a few guides on what a tailor can or cannot alter. Gentlemen's Gazette has a pretty comprehensive video guide on this topic. The two main things that a tailor cannot alter much on a jacket is the collar (that dreaded gap is pretty much unfixable in RTW), length (both the sleeve and the quarters as it will either make the sleeve buttons and the pockets to close to the bottom), and shoulder width. Thailand is pretty well-known for tailored garment at a lower cost compared to American/European tailors. However, the really cheap ones often do not have fabrics that were mentioned earlier so if you can afford it do try to get tailors that do not offer those 24/48 hour suit services that are quite prevalent in the big cities especially in Bangkok. In the website Parisian Gentlemen, they have a list of well regarded and rather affordable tailors around SEA. Look up "affordable tailoring south east asia parisian gentlemen" and you should be able to find the article. If your dress shirts fit you pretty well already, I do think you can just keep them. I have my shirts tailor made because my neck circumference is massive compared to the rest of my body. I need an L/XL size to button the collar but the torso, shoulder, and sleeve is only an S/M. If you have the same issue as mine (odd/disproportionate measurements), it's worth to get your shirts tailored. Cotton and linen are the best shirt materials for tropical weather IMO. In terms of suspenders, they don't really cause that much heat. The issue you may run into however, is that your shirt may be pressed against your back and when you are sweating it really is a bad experience. I gravitate towards suspenders because I have a belly that pushes my trousers down which causes them to bunch at the ankle. If you have a waist that can hold the waistband up well, just get side adjusters on your trousers and let your hip keep the waistband up instead.
I would've liked to have seen how well the suit fit with the models sitting down. How the pant leg fit in relation to the shoes. When I was a youth, the pant leg coming just below the shin, was okay. But now, I believe the pant leg just come lower about ankle level.
I got a slim fit off the rack suit and the vest and blazer fit perfectly. However, the pants have a low rise and it's tight in the upper thighs and crotch. Is there anything I can do to loosen the upper thighs and add more room in the crotch?
Hi Brock, don't you feel like when you're on the shorter side and you tuck your shirt in and go without jacket, the top half of your body looks too short, like almost funny? I'm 5'8 with relatively longer legs but I feel like I look stupid with a tucked in shirt.
Great video. The only piece of advice I can offer is to not worry too much about going 11/11, especially when going off the rack. Depending on how you are built, it can get quite hard to nail each aspect. Do your best to hit as many of the marks you can and you'll look great, especially during this current 'loose fit' meta.
Good point!
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This is so true. I bought a suit jacket 10 years ago that seems perfect on the shoulders and the overall length seems right. But it can be seen as too wide or loose if buttoned (which can be fixed by hemming the sides) but I like wearing it opened and I think it looks good and even a friend of mine who is usually critical clothing said it looks good on me.
That's exactly what i thought.
Thank you for producing a good quality video on the importance of fit. Most men's fashion videos these days are all the same. They preface on the assumption that all men are skinny, scraggly, and have thin, chicken legs. If you're a dude who spends even just a few days a week working out in a gym then you're going to have bigger shoulders and upper arms, you're going to have a bigger chest, and you're going to have thighs and glutes. And if you don't work out then you're either obese or have a dad-bod with at least a bit of a belly. The average man today falls into one of these two latter categories, and seriously, how many times have you seen a fat guy in a skinny suit and thought it was a good look?
The suits they're pushing as 'modern' now are too tight, and short and don't look masculine at all. I had a buddy who was suited like this for his wedding. The tailor kept telling him how good it looked, but he looked ridiculous. The jacket was so tight that he couldn't freely move his arms, and the pants were too short and tight. The suit looked at least two sizes too small, but the tailor kept telling him that this is the look that guys are wearing now. Maybe, but its not a good look for some. Form-fitting clothing look great on women with thin, curvy bodies but they NEVER look good on dudes. I took him to my 'old-school' tailor, and that dude fixed him up in a much better looking suit that fit him perfectly. Yes, it was 'traditional' and 'conservative' but it was also very masculine, and a really sharp look.
A suit should fit one's body, not the tailor's idea of modernity.
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The dreaded collar gap has haunted me for years. I’ve even experienced it with higher end made-to-measure suits and jackets from in-person fittings. I’m in the process of my first bespoke suit now, hoping to defeat the gap monster forever.
Same! Let me know how it turns out.
One possible problem though. When you're in front of the mirror you automatically adjust your natural posture and stay straighter. Then the tailor takes your measurements, makes a suit and you return back to your natural posture. An experience tailor should know this though.
@@BrockMcGoff The first bespoke attempt was closer to a perfect collar fit but there was still a little bit of gap. The tailor said that it was the best he could do. I actually took the suit to another bespoke tailor to see if he could diagnose and fix the problem and he noticed that the collar was about 1/2" too long so he shortened it. Now it fits snug on my neck with no gap at all. My neck is 13 1/2" around and I think some tailors might have a mental block where they just won't go smaller than 14" for some reason. Just a theory.
@@BrockMcGoff Can you get the front of the suit length alter if it's too long?
@@newbassplayer4005 yes, but you have to be aware of the button stance becoming too low, and the pockets being too close to the hem (especially if you have patch pockets).
I got my first 'custom' suit from SuitSupply. Not a lot of alternations needed to be made. And I'm glad I caught those parts of the suit that needed fixing. Definitely nice to have a tailor help you out in making you look the best that you can!
Pants this tapered make the shoes look gigantic and put of proportion in my opinion. Especially if you have a larger shoe size, you start looking like a stickman on skis. Straight cut with full break give so much better proportions overall.
Correct! The hem of the pants should cover at least half of the shoe length if one doesn't want to look like they're wearing clown shoes.
This is a great guide. I've worked in made to measure suiting for a few years, and each and every point is spot on. Well done.
Great video Brock! I was kind of thinking of another video idea . "How to look Stylishly Lazy at Home Without Looking Like a Slob" Lol.
Great video Brock, I am looking at getting a new suit (grey). There are two general rules I keep in mind, wear a dress shirt to see how the jacket fits and a pair of dress shoes for the fit of the pant and break when being tailored. I am 5'5 with a medium/slim build. FYI, I would look into getting side adjusters for my pant.
Those are excellent tips!
Finally, a suit video that doesn't sound douchey or snobby. Spot on.
Great video! Very in depth on the key areas. :)
Speaking of getting clothes tailored you have great information on how to find a tailor and what is possible to have tailored.
I find it really hard though on youtube or elsewhere to find any videos or guides with clear before and after pictures on how it can affect the fit and how much things can be changed.
I’m a suspenders guy. I love the look while wearing a suite, and super comfortable.
1:47 Adam Sandler did not forget to get his suit tailored he’s rocking his suit the same way he wears his baggy cargo shorts.😂😂😂
That's an acceptable fit. It used to be known as the American sack fit and was the staple in America until the 50s. It's a very vintage look. Robert Downey Jnr also pulls that off when he's in a three piece. Recently Americans are blindly copying the svelte Continental fit, forgetting that that fit is meant for the slimmer European physique. So many "trendy" Americans look like clowns with their body hugging blouse fits and socks visible even when standing because they went comically no break.
This was a very well thought out video with good and justified tips. One of the best on the topic. Top notch!
I appreciate that!
Thank you for this video. My current off-the-rack jacket is "good enough" but not great in terms of fit, and this video helped me figure out the specific areas where the fit could be improved.
One point would like to add. A partial break is your safe bet as different shoes sit differently with your pants due to the heels or height construction of the shoes. You will notice your pants kissing some shoes while others barely touching it✌️
My preference is a British cut. Strong shoulders, a generous lapel, and a tapered waist
Nice!
That's not British, that's a Zoot suit, guv'nor. The upper class British cut is famously generous in the waist and baggier at the thighs. Think King Charles and all the Lords. The hoi polloi in Britain may go curvier, but that's the Continental influence.
Does a British style favour closed quarters? I rather like a tapered waist with open quarters but not averse to the British shoulder structure and lapels.
Incredible video, really helped me understand what to look for. Can you link me to the grey vested suit you were wearing early in the video? That’s exactly the style and color I would like to find.
Is this a prophecy? I have been thinking of making a rich brown suit for a while. I even have made a mood board to narrow down what I want. And, bam, here is my favourite fashion figure talking about suit. Let me call my tailor for an appointment.
It was meant to be!
Awesome suit guide. I agree with 99% of it, the 1% being I don't like the look of pleated pants. feels outdated to me. but hey, to each his own. Love the cuff trick to make sure the jacket length is right. hadn't heard of that before but will definitely be putting into practice
Some call it outdated, some call it classic.
@@roscoejones4335 : and some muscular types look strange without the pleat.
isn't it amazing how having a flat belly makes so many clothes fit so much better on oneself?
yup
Thank you for this! I actually went in and spent an hour getting fitted for a custom suit and it took several weeks for them to make it and send it to me and when I tried it... the jacket felt worse than any off-the-shelf suit I have had but I wasn't sure if that meant I just didn't know anything. This video helped me realize they F'd up and I will get a refit on Saturday as the movement in my arms on the MEASURED TAILORED suit is restrictive and barely moving raises the shoulders.
I wished I watched this before I went shopping I bought a blazer for 500 bucks from Hugo Boss and the sales person assured me it fit well but later I found out it is a sloppy fit even after they altered the sleeves, the cuffs still hit top of the knuckles and bottom a half inch below the crotch. I tried to return it or get a store credit and they refused, saying I chose the jacket. The next one will fit better. But hugo boss staff should not be trusted in assisting customers on the fit of a jacket.
Good video! Hit the key points. I'ma natural 41L so off-the-rack is a little challenging, but if I'm patient different makers sizes are all different. So I can get into a 42L slim in one mfr and 40L in another. I don't mind paying for custom tailoring if I save by o-t-r options.
I'd love to know where the pea coat is from, it looks fantastic on you. Thanks for the video.
I've never worn any suit before
Definitely I will use your advices for getting the best suit for me
Saved two of my Dad's old 100%wool italian suits and I'm hoping they can be tailored to my fit. First time realizing how sharp I look in a suit. Got alot of dressing up to do while I'm still in prime territory.
Awesome stuff, concise and valuable
Thank god you acknowledge that fit is subjective-I feel like so many men's fashion youtubers out there give the impression that there's only one "correct" way to wear clothing.
Very little of a suit fit is subjective. For instance, jacket length, width, shoulders, collar, etc have hard and fast rules. Number of breaks in the trousers or sleeve length within set tolerances are less so
Good video, Brock! It's great that you could provide so much information in 12 minutes. Antonio would turn this into a capital project! Plus, he would tell you to buy a sewing machine and do your own tailoring! I like the way you broke things down. There is only one thing I would have added, and that is the taper of the pant. I find heavier guys look a little odd when the pant is too tapered. Things should be proportional to your size in my opinion. Thanks! 😊
Bring the suit content back!! 😛
Go with wide lapel 100%, a little wider shoulder is fine depending your head size, bad wide shoulder looks is mostly bad tailoring.
Thank You for the Video 😀
I appreciate this video! I went to Men's Wearhouse to rent a tux and they measured me in my city and shipped it out to another state or atleast my measurements to a local retailer to where I traveled to. I looked like a frumpy mess the day of formal event, drowning in an unattractive tuxedo that made me look wide & square like SpongeBob. 😅 So now, I'm trying to build my own go-to collections so the embarrassment never happens again, and your video really helps. Thanks
This is pure gold. Thank you!
I’ve been finding the pants to be tough to measure
Got one that was too skinny and one too lose but damn it’s annoying getting the wrong size
What is the overcoat you feature teice in the video. Its exactly tje style I'm looking for.
Great video.
Very good explanation sir
Great informative video. Thank you
Thanks for the video. This is a great help.
Where I'm from (Venezuela) suits are made from really cheap fabrics BUT, you can look really good just by using the propper fit...FIT IS KING
People notice fit more than they notice fabric. Makes sense. Even the most ardent of fashionistas are not very well knowledgable about fabric because they get all their opinions from trends and guess work.
Even with bespoked suits, as we age and we physically change, and as we change our perception of fashion, the perfect fit will change.
Friendly correction; arm hole can be altered. Depending on how much can be let out or taken in. Shoulder is a different complication better left alone.
Wonderful suits tutoring, very insightful! Love the simplicity explanation of how a handsome suit should be. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Excellent video!
Collar gaps might also be a consequence of big armholes on modern tailoring. Even MTM and some bespoke tailors still make their armholes kind of large which isn’t helpful. I’ve never got collar gaps with my vintage 40s suits tho.
It's because Americans are fatter on average now.
great video, thanks
For me the problem is a ridge between the shoulder blades. Happens with almost every suit/coat. I do have a very broad chest and shoulders and a slim waist (I'm a bodybuilder) but few off the rack suits fit my waist _and_ shoulders
most of my suits are of an eye'talian cut and in my wild travels i picked up a nice old sch
soviet box cut suit and for banging about its a still a favourite
Some tips for a slim guy with a little tummy out. The waistcoat remains risen or lifted from front. Plz suggest how should it fit ? Also should the shirt sleeves be as fit as the jacket or a little loose ?
Great video. Congratulations from Portugal.
I went to Mens Wearhouse here in Utah, and found they are doing a custom suit deal for 400. Again, the material probably isn't like the greatest (I'm not real familiar with material so I'm assuming), but again, it will be a really good fit so I think it's worth it.
If the fit is right, and it's a non-polyester suit for $400, that's a great deal (no matter where you bought it).
Another option is Jos. A. Banks for cheap “custom” suits. If you have one in your area. I think their fabric quality may be a little bit better for the same price or less. They are still not a Brioni. But, do you really need a Brioni?
Great information
im a tail, i’d been able to down sizing 4 sizes down. so shoulder are no issue to fix.
just saying. an experience tailor should be able to help you!!
really helpful review
Thanks.
I'm amazed at this knowledge. I'm glad they make a suit for people that are 4'10" like you.
Finding g a good tailor is a chore worth doing.
Any recommendation for off the shelf high rise dress pants? Lower rise pants, those that sit right on the waist line, are very common
your jackets are about 4cm too short by Neapolitan standards but with a couple possible exceptions they look right on you, how tall are you?
Regarding "No Break" pants length. At 10:45 speaker says "I like no break, I think it looks really good, especially for ???? Guys". Did you say "shorter guys " , "taller guys " or what guys ? Thanks.
Thank you SO MUCH for this current look at men's suits.
My son just appeared on TV and we realized that he desperately needs a correctly fitted suit. He is 24 years old, 6'2, 275 lb. Where should he look? He has had 2 suits before that no longer fit, and he's grown through several blue blazers. Do we go to a department store? Men's Wearhouse? An old school men's store? He works in central KY where clothes can be traditional which he doesn't mind, but he doesn't want to look 50. Custom is not an option due to cost. Approximately how much might he expect to have to pay? He will probably be buying a new navy blazer and khakis for more casual events especially in the south. I'd appreciate any advice you have. Thank you!
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super informative
" Make sure to get the Lapels!"
Adam West.
What about bunching behind my neck because of my shoulders? I seem to have this with any jacket I have.
Can this be fixed?
Thank you so much for your help I am kind of poor man I always like to look good I love suits thank for advice on the things I need to watch out of god bless your heart ❤.
wow, amazing, Thank you!
where did you get those shoes?
I just bought my second suit coming back from deployment. I didnt realize how big my back got and my jacket is tight on my first suit
I could wear a perfect fitting suit everyday
I watch your videos many times
I avoid buying a short suit off the rack because the sleeves are always too short. Any advise? I know custom is an option but as we all know that can be a bit pricey.
2024 I'll be getting my first custom made suit😮❤
I enjoyed the informative video. I have a question. I'm curious about the length of the jacket you wore. I bought a sports jacket this time and it was 76.5cm long. I am about 174.5cm tall, so please let me know if the figures are appropriate. Thank you.
Proportions between upper and lower body vary even in people of the same height, so there can be no single answer to this question.
My husband is tall 6-4 and has a 44 waist and his suit pants are very baggy over butt and back of thighs. Help
thx. helpful
I definitely think I have some sleeve pitch issues. Which I really don't know how to fix unless I start paying way more for my suits.
You don't need to pay more. It takes the right tailor. Plenty of overpriced tailors out there who screw up suits.
At 7:23 did you mean too short? I barely touch it and was like wait it's too long??😂
Hey Modest Man. Can you please make an Every Day Carry update for 2022?
Coming in the next week or so!
I just ordered and received a suit online. Gave measurements and everything but it doesn't seem to fit right or so I think. When buttoned up all the way, the front of the jacket at the bottom flares out to a point a good 3 or 4 inches from my waist and I don't know if it's supposed to do that...also the trousers don't seem to come up as high on the waist as I usually wear pants and such (which is usually just under the bellybutton but I have a bit of a gut so that's kind of an issue in itself) Do you think I need to get it altered?
AS A 1ST SUIT BUYER THIS IS SO HELPFUL. GOING FOR OFF THE RACK SUIT FROM DILLARD'S FOR NOW. THEN MAYBE TAILOR-MADE ON MY 2ND SUIT. ANY ADVICE WILL BE WELCOME.
Great video, however, no tips on double breasted suits. Following your suggestion on how tied the jacket should be, I think double breasted suits should be I bit looser to give you that elegant look. What do you think? I owned 32 suits, most of them taylored others from the rack, nothing in my opinion is more elegant than a double breasted suit and/or a well taylored three piece suit. I thank you for helping us men to wear suits the way they suppose to be. Some men, for the most part, are ignorant about ways to dress formally. They think than wearing a suit makes it dressing formally. I wish more men should watch your video.
what hair product are you using and how do you style it? :)
Better watch this video, don't want to end up on that one Twitter account
Do you still train in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?
I haven’t trained in a few years; been lifting weights instead. I’d like to go back to BJJ someday though, I miss it!
@@BrockMcGoff I need to lift more myself lol, but that's really awesome that the passion is still there 😁
It was great 👍👍👍👍
I have read that pleats should not be worn by short men, because with pleats the crotch must be lower, which makes the legs look shorter. True?
The cup test is no good for people with long arms and short torso, nor for people with short arms and long torse. Both of which are fairly common.
Nice Video
You look so nice wearing that suit! Really! you look so nice! 😁😁
Is fitting suit with luz fit pant allaw
Thoughts on the Thom Browne shrunken suits? Luv them (especially someone that is shorter)
I always liked the aesthetic, but it can be taken to an extreme (to the point where it doesn't actually make sense for most dressy occasions, like a job interview, funeral or wedding).
Thanks. Great video on suit fit. Do you have any advice on car coats? Or jackets that have a suit look? What do you think of blazers with hood?
Thanks Brock. Long-time follower. I have started eating healthier and working out. I want to buy myself a few suits as soon as I feel I am the right size; sort of as a reward for sticking with the diet and exercise.
The big thing is I now live in Asia, Thailand at the moment. I want to buy my first suit rather soon as I have lost enough weight and I will need it for business. The thing is the heat here is stifling, and I all ready have this thing where I feel so hot if I don’t have some breeze blowing on me. So no air flow and a suit equals sweating which I hate.
If I want a suit that I can reduce the size later at a tailor, and that will work in the heat, what material(s) do you recommend? Also, there are lots of incredibly inexpensive suits here which I took to mean they’re “cheap.” However, one of my friends said they make some great suits here in Thailand at a fraction of the price found in other parts of the world. Any thoughts or experience/knowledge of buying in this part of the world?
Also, I have several nice dress shirts. Can those be tailored, or should I have some dress shirts made for me? I read a review of a famous place here and the reviewer said he had dress shirts custom made and they’re the best fitting shirts he’s ever owned. But I have some semi-expensive Fredrick Taylor shirts that are 100% cotton or linen with French cuffs and my initials on them. Would like to keep them if they can be tailored. At the same time, perhaps there’s even a shirt material better for heat than what I own?
I like the idea of suspenders, but wonder if that would make me feel hotter in the suit? Last question, if I get suspenders, what should the suspenders match? The belt? Shoes? Suit? Tie? Sort of lost there.
Thanks so much in advance for your time and consideration. Wishing you happiness and prosperity. Cheers.
I'm not Brock but as a neighbour (I'm Malaysian) who likes to dress up I hope I can help you out here with a few of the questions.
In my experience, the humidity in Southeast Asia is the main killjoy in dressing up instead of the heat itself. Even an unlined jacket made with an open weave fabric could not stop the humidity from causing massive perspiration in my experience. The great news is that in most occasions where a suit is required, the venue is often very heavily air-conditioned. This helps a great deal in wearing a suit in our localities. But I must state that a half/quarter-lined jacket with an open-weave fabric such as Minnis Fresco, Holland and Sherry Crispaire etc. does help A LOT compared to a fully lined "all-season" wool as most of these "all-season" wool from European mills are made for the European climate. You can also consider wool/silk/linen blend or hopsack wool. Linen is great too but it is an inherently casual fabric. It will not be as suitable for a board meeting, interview, funeral etc.
Most suits can be altered to be smaller especially if it was initially made to your measurement. That means the shoulder and the length are already pretty settled in the dimensions. Usually we don't grow shorter in length and width of our shoulders that significantly so everything else is going to be ok for the tailor to alter. However if the suit is RTW, I would suggest you to look up a few guides on what a tailor can or cannot alter. Gentlemen's Gazette has a pretty comprehensive video guide on this topic. The two main things that a tailor cannot alter much on a jacket is the collar (that dreaded gap is pretty much unfixable in RTW), length (both the sleeve and the quarters as it will either make the sleeve buttons and the pockets to close to the bottom), and shoulder width.
Thailand is pretty well-known for tailored garment at a lower cost compared to American/European tailors. However, the really cheap ones often do not have fabrics that were mentioned earlier so if you can afford it do try to get tailors that do not offer those 24/48 hour suit services that are quite prevalent in the big cities especially in Bangkok. In the website Parisian Gentlemen, they have a list of well regarded and rather affordable tailors around SEA. Look up "affordable tailoring south east asia parisian gentlemen" and you should be able to find the article.
If your dress shirts fit you pretty well already, I do think you can just keep them. I have my shirts tailor made because my neck circumference is massive compared to the rest of my body. I need an L/XL size to button the collar but the torso, shoulder, and sleeve is only an S/M. If you have the same issue as mine (odd/disproportionate measurements), it's worth to get your shirts tailored. Cotton and linen are the best shirt materials for tropical weather IMO.
In terms of suspenders, they don't really cause that much heat. The issue you may run into however, is that your shirt may be pressed against your back and when you are sweating it really is a bad experience. I gravitate towards suspenders because I have a belly that pushes my trousers down which causes them to bunch at the ankle. If you have a waist that can hold the waistband up well, just get side adjusters on your trousers and let your hip keep the waistband up instead.
If you're really skinny, you can wear pretty much anything and it will look pretty good.
I would've liked to have seen how well the suit fit with the models sitting down. How the pant leg fit in relation to the shoes. When I was a youth, the pant leg coming just below the shin, was okay. But now, I believe the pant leg just come lower about ankle level.
I got a slim fit off the rack suit and the vest and blazer fit perfectly. However, the pants have a low rise and it's tight in the upper thighs and crotch. Is there anything I can do to loosen the upper thighs and add more room in the crotch?
Where is your overcoat from?
I second this - please tell us what brand the overcoat is!
Hi Brock, don't you feel like when you're on the shorter side and you tuck your shirt in and go without jacket, the top half of your body looks too short, like almost funny? I'm 5'8 with relatively longer legs but I feel like I look stupid with a tucked in shirt.
Nope! It's the exact opposite...the only reason he appears out of proportions is due to the shorter arm span which requires higher rise.