@Jolie Alis this is the best part of the video Dr. Grande had me tearing up in laughter. What makes this so funny is the fact that he is not attempting to roast, shade or mock anyone he is just giving his professional (key word) opinion.
That’s not even professional, not even doctor or what a real therapist really would or should say ….. Fame got to his head 🤷🏻♂️. Seems abit creepy but I’m not diagnosing him.
Sexualizes herself, trolls for attention, does mukbangs, is overly dramatic, and also makes music videos... which have plenty of room for improvement. Her entire career is essentially centered around getting attention.
@@megan7788 Do you make videos pretending to have a disorder you don't? Do you act theatrical or seek attention by any means possible? That is what I am referring to here. She is desperate for that next hit of attention and validation. There is a distinct pattern with her.
She is _so_ dumb that it's _almost_ upsetting that she's so rich and has such a huge platform. She's constantly spitting the dumbest things out of her mouth with complete confidence. She's done the work to get where she is and that's cool. But also, there's much smarter, kinder, more talented people who have no where near the same success.
Wxwxw Its not bullying. She had put out very harmful content to a massive amount of people. She needs to be held accountable for all the misinformation and hurt she has caused.
"It doesn't really matter if the disorder is real or not. They need treatment for those symptoms." Honestly I can think everyone can agree. Whether a person has a specific disorder or not, if somebody has been through a traumatic event they need to be treated and helped. Those of us with mental illnesses and those of us that have been through trauma bottom line need professional treatment.
Weeb Life I can say I am 100% certain in my opinion she does not have DID. However there clearly is something shes struggling with and I hope she decides to seek help and get an actual diagnosis from a doctor for whatever it is.
Exactly!! The treatment shouldn't end with "They're faking this specific disorder, so they don't need treatment for it." Clearly SOMETHING is wrong even if it's not that specific thing. I wish more people would understand this concept...
@@peridotlazuli6816 Agree for the most part, they clearly are hurting and need some form of therapy at the least. On the other side it is completely inappropriate to stigmatize and spread false information about something that many other's are suffering from. Most people just don't articulate that well, but I think multiple people/youtubers actually did pretty well discussing this.
@@zulemazahir666 Oh yes I completely agree there. People with platforms that reach such a wide audience should be careful not to spread false information. I don't think it's appropriate for Trisha to use her platform this way. I was talking more about people who are genuinely trying to figure out their mental health. Trisha seems to just...latch onto whatever is a hot topic because it gets her more views.
In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'. I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and, unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
Kybele Kordax See this makes sense. She has also claimed to have BPD before several times and while I want to believe her, she also “came out” as black, transgender, gay man, lesbian, bisexual and chicken nugget in the same way she has now with DID. I really feel like she is just stuck in the edgy troll era of youtube and because those around her enable her, the only repercussions she faces are negative comments from strangers online. The negative engagement clearly fuels her and she seems to take pleasure in lashing out at people for criticising her (see her exchange with Anthony Padilla over the DID situation oh my god) I feel like with her it will always be a crying wolf situation and even if she comes out with something that is true, no one is going to believe her. 🤷♂️
Yep me too! Dr. Grande really knows how to break down info into understandable pieces. And he slips in some good cracks, which I luv! All my best to you!
tbh I didn't even know who she was till now ... just watched like 2 mins of her video (ik - I lasted long!!!) and it was a horrible experience. bottom line, I didn't understand a thing she's mumbling in that video ...
We all need to have a friend like Dr.Grande in our lives. Surround yourself with intellectual people and watch less stupid videos like Trishas. I’m definitely subscribing to your channel Dr Grande! 🧠🤍
@Mia bear It really is a sad commentary! I was unaware of the popularity of this on YouT and absolutely floored at the number of views and proponents of this pseudoscience
Until I saw a 'reaction video' on TH-cam by Nin (on her channel, DissociaDID) to Trisha Paytas' video about DID, I had also never heard of Paytas. Nin is the host of a system (a dissociated one) of alters and who has been professionally diagnosed with DID so dedicates her channel, DissociaDID, to educating others about DID and trying to reduce the stigma surrounding the condition. However, as as long-term subscriber to DissociaDID, as well as a few other channels run by other women with DID (who also aim to educate people about the condition), I was quite disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Everything from her cosmetic 'enhancements' - which I personally think make her uglier than she probably was beforehand - to the description when one looks up her name being "media personality" plus the fact in previous videos she's apparently claimed to be or have whatever condition or situation was deemed to be 'trendy' (or 'trending') screams 'look at me'. It's very likely that the woman is a narcissist, like many on TH-cam whose videos are primarily about themselves and not containing content about others, and maybe also has bpd or histrionic personality disorder. This is mere speculation but it makes more sense than her having DID. If she had DID, one would expect she'd have mentioned the supposed trauma she would have needed to experience, prior to the age of 9, to develop DID, in previous videos considering they're full of her talking about her childhood and other matters concerning herself. She's claimed everything from being a lesbian to being trans and a 'black male' and whilst this is possible, it seems unlikely and, in Paytas' case, as fake as her false nails and lip filler. After graduating from Uni' and having undertaken my supervised training in psychology, I worked primarily in the field of forensic psychology. DID was barely mentioned during the entire University course, and unfortunately most in the mental health field don't receive much in the way of education about DID nor training in diagnosing it, or OSDD, let alone in working therapeutically with a client with the condition. This situation, together with the fact that many mental health professionals don't believe DID is a genuine disorder, means that those with the condition typically find it takes many years to receive a formal diagnosis let alone adequate support from a qualified therapist. As such, it can be comforting for these individuals to self-diagnose based on finding their symptoms and experience of the condition listed and explained in both mental health journals and online on channels like DissociaDID's. However, self-diagnosis isn't necessarily accurate, and it's merely a first step in dealing with any condition before seeing a therapist and obtaining a correct diagnosis. In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'. I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and, unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
She has borderline personality disorder and no I am not diagnosing Trisha, people don’t come for me... she was diagnosed at the psych hospital when her and Jason Nash broke up and she had a mental breakdown. This is the ONLY thing she has been diagnosed with. Only later on did she realise it wasn’t a “cool” diagnosis and has since denied the original diagnosis.
*I'm really glad that I've never ever actually seen him even play clips of videos he reviews or talks about. I think it would distract from the point he is making, and I respect his decision not to.*
I really think she’s just a troll who learned early in her youtube career that if she continues to say the most offensive, disgusting things she can laugh her way to the bank.
Literally. The more attention she receives whether it’s good or bad is good for her. It feeds into her lies If people just stop paying attention to her it’ll end her TH-cam career and she won’t have a platform to hurt more people and communities with her trolling
Crystal xoxox Which is why I think the drama channels that feed off of her for content, are equally to blame. She’s alive because of the response video trend.
Solitaire Rivera there’s a good chance they’ll at least see the comment section of her videos and realize that literally NOBODY is in agreement with her
As a subscriber to DissociaDID for some time now, I was very pleased that Nin appeared on his video. Thankfully, Padilla approached the topic sensitively, especially when, unexpectedly - for both Nin, Padilla and his crew - Nin dissociated and one of her 'littles' turned up. If you haven't seen DissociaDID's channel, I highly recommend it - as well as MultiplicityAndMe and TheEntropySystem - for information about DID from women who've been professionally diagnosed with DID.
Kybele Kordax i’m a fan of those youtubers as well! glad to see another fan in the comments. :) just as a side note, idk if they’re all comfortable with being referred to as women. as their alters can be and are men, women, nonbinary individuals and even nonhuman, using a more inclusive term might be more ideal in the future
You're ability to remain objective and professional while addressing these subjects is so admirable, Doc. More mental health professionals, content creators and folks in general can learn a lot from you!💪🏽💪🏽
"she says she 'dissociate the most without dissociating if that makes sense', nothing about that makes sense" this has to be one of the best dry and straightforward ways to call someone out on the bullshit I have ever seen. And I'm so glad to be alive and witness that moment.
She has also claimed to be ”a thousand percent” transgender, while also saying she identifies with her birth sex ”a thousand percent”. I think that she is not actually serious about any of this stuff, somehow her demeanor just makes it seem that she really is not as ”crazy” as she wants people to think.
Lol this research still very speculative it's not concrete if you know anything about it actually. That's why he has to use such specific wording. To say that this is reason or proof is still based on speculation. I honestly think that this comment is dismissal of the spectrum of the disorder as well as surrounding. It's devaluation, this video is clinically unethical because it names a person he should be dismissed off of that alone. This is a man's opinion reguardless of his claims of credibility. Your wrong in making a video about it as well. There are many points that he makes that are obviously inconsistent with his wording. This disorder is still being researched there can be no concrete notions made like this. Just as autism is a spectrum there are spectrums to every aspect of psychology it's not an exact science.
“Clinically significant distress” is SUCH an under-talked about aspect of mental health diagnosis, in my opinion, especially when it comes to people self diagnosing (at least in online communities/spaces). I often see people commenting on someone describing a mental disorder saying “Wow I (insert symptom) sometimes, does that mean I have this? 😳”, but if the symptoms aren’t causing you clinically significant distress? You likely have nothing to worry about. I just wish non-professional influencers on mental health topics would emphasize that more, to prevent people getting worried for no reason :/
I'm autistic and really feel that in the autism community. We get a lot of self-diagnosers who think they're autistic because they're "quirky" but say they love every single aspect of being 'autistic' and that being 'autistic' is their whole world. The self-will I have to have in order to refrain from blatantly telling these people they wouldn't actually qualify for having clinical autism is real. Too many people think personality traits=mental disorders.
To be clear, this goes both ways. I know plenty of people, particularly men, who are clearly deeply depressed and think it's totally fine. I had one friend who was excessively anxious, to the point of honestly being handicapped in public places, and he just sort of avoided it for years because he wanted to be totally fine. He was pretty much unable to even use a drive thru for example. Another guy was getting drunk, daily, robbed the same Subway twice because, he literally wanted to get punished for something in his own words. He called me once because his car battery died at this random fucking farm and after 12 hours of doing 300 dollars worth of coke, at least 60 dollars in dabs (concentrated marijuana) and drinking his liver to death in his fucking Toyota, he was kinda lonely. Like, no shit, and our mutual friends were acting like he was just attention seeking and trying to be depressive and cool and tragic or whatever. It's disgusting. I myself have been dealing with atypical Bipolar disorder, Anxiety and OCD for years, I knew about the OCD because my symptoms were pretty cut and dry from the time I was about 6, but I only really found out this year that I was Bipolar because I thought everyone just sort of felt severely depressed
@@booklover3800 I have sympathy for people who self diagnose with Autism because it can be so hard to get diagnosed. In my state it took 2 years for my nephew to get diagnosed and he is a child. Adults are put on a waiting list for the actual waiting list. I don't think it is ideal to self diagnose but it is understandable when an official diagnosis is so hard to come by. Obviously if your "Autism" causes you no problems then you don't have it. It is called a disorder for a reason.
I recently watched a video discussing Tourette’s syndrome and the _entire_ comment section was _filled_ with people saying “I [insert random tic here]! I think I have Tourette’s too!”. It was obvious that most of those commenters were kids and it was equally exasperating and depressing to witness.
Jess Mess Exactly no one should ever joke about DID or multiple personality disorder. Very irresponsible and harmful to others. She sounds like ONISION who hopefully will be in prison soon. He’s been reported to FBI. Long story. Chris Hansen and 2 attorneys are investigating this UTUBER. He also has made 6 figures in his sick endeavors.
@@SM-BSW I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was he first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
The thing about DID is system responsibility so you can't just blame an altar and if you just blame them for all the perceived negative characteristics that's a sign of faking. You work with altars with behaviors so it's not like oh I have an eating disorder it's an altar I'm not responsible. Dissociadid, team pinata and a few others talk about this. I don't have DID but I saw videos recently on that and wanted to point that out. Great video as usuaul.
I have DID (now DDNOS) and you are totally correct. Its a part of therapy and seeing a professional. Wether or not an alter did something we are all in this body and have to take responsibility for our actions.
@@pattimaeda6097 (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe that an alter is a name for the different identities/people in the mind. Alters can fall into different categories depending on what they do for the system and how they act. Yet again, this is what I know, if I'm wrong please correct me.
Your channel is about to blow up and I'm glad. People have no idea how much detail goes into mental health and the literature. It's about time they start finding out
“ It’s the lack of knowledge that we see expressed here .... that’s down right frightening” how I’ve felt every time I’ve watched any Trisha paytas video
Trisha is a professional train wreck and your opinion is the only one I care to hear on this subject. Many people unsubscribed from her when she was became transgender for a day.
Natalie Marie it’s the fact that people are still giving her attention (even when it’s bad) about these topics. When people stop giving her ANY attention is when she’s going to stop. As soon as people forget about her, she starts another thing up to get more attention
All of this behavior shows she should be diagnosed with a completely different disorder, by a professional who, as Todd describes, looks at it from a different point of view.
This was such a necessary video, the best way to combat misinformation and hysteria is through cold, hard, peer reviewed facts! Thank you so much for your work!
Until I saw a 'reaction video' on TH-cam by Nin (on her channel, DissociaDID) to Trisha Paytas' video about DID, I had also never heard of Paytas. Nin is the host of a system (a dissociated one) of alters and who has been professionally diagnosed with DID so dedicates her channel, DissociaDID, to educating others about DID and trying to reduce the stigma surrounding the condition. However, as as long-term subscriber to DissociaDID, as well as a few other channels run by other women with DID (who also aim to educate people about the condition), I was quite disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Everything from her cosmetic 'enhancements' - which I personally think make her uglier than she probably was beforehand - to the description when one looks up her name being "media personality" plus the fact in previous videos she's apparently claimed to be or have whatever condition or situation was deemed to be 'trendy' (or 'trending') screams 'look at me'. It's very likely that the woman is a narcissist, like many on TH-cam whose videos are primarily about themselves and not containing content about others, and maybe also has bpd or histrionic personality disorder. This is mere speculation but it makes more sense than her having DID. If she had DID, one would expect she'd have mentioned the supposed trauma she would have needed to experience, prior to the age of 9, to develop DID, in previous videos considering they're full of her talking about her childhood and other matters concerning herself. She's claimed everything from being a lesbian to being trans and a 'black male' and whilst this is possible, it seems unlikely and, in Paytas' case, as fake as her false nails and lip filler. After graduating from Uni' and having undertaken my supervised training in psychology, I worked primarily in the field of forensic psychology. DID was barely mentioned during the entire University course, and unfortunately most in the mental health field don't receive much in the way of education about DID nor training in diagnosing it, or OSDD, let alone in working therapeutically with a client with the condition. This situation, together with the fact that many mental health professionals don't believe DID is a genuine disorder, means that those with the condition typically find it takes many years to receive a formal diagnosis let alone adequate support from a qualified therapist. As such, it can be comforting for these individuals to self-diagnose based on finding their symptoms and experience of the condition listed and explained in both mental health journals and online on channels like DissociaDID's. However, self-diagnosis isn't necessarily accurate, and it's merely a first step in dealing with any condition before seeing a therapist and obtaining a correct diagnosis. In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'. I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and, unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
She also seems to be confusing what seems to be an unstable sense of self and a changing identity (characteristic of BPD) with dissociative states (alters).
Lets not forget that BPD is mainly about extreem mood states like mania and depression. I was diagnosed with BDP and tbh I don't think that's what Trisha has... but maybe I am missing something :/
“Basic responsibility to.... read something-“ She did read something. She read Anthony Padilla’s video title and thought ‘Oh shit! I’ll jump on this!!’
"She is trying to describe something, it's just impossible to know what that is." If that isn't the best description of Trisha's videos I don't know what is.
BEST description and explanation I've seen so far when critiquing Trisha's video. I love the way you describe things, standing right in the corner of Academy and standardized information. One thing I have to critique here, is that sometimes you use a language that is the most accurate possible, but not exactly the most understandable. When you refer to MPD and DID as being technically two different things, I understand you say that because mpd's criteria AND conceptual definition of the disorder describes a different phenomenon to the one that we currently accept as "real". In other words, two different mechanisms and sets of qualities are being described and one is inaccurate. I don't think the message ceme through clear enough to not cause more confusion. Although saying "MPD AND DID are the same but one name is outdated" isn't technically accurate, I think it creates a healthier, clearer understanding of it, than downright saying they're technically separate things to and public that may or may not understand the term "technically" and may or may not catch your message the way you intend to. That's it, aside from that, GREAT critique, great video. Will definitely subscribe and keep watching :)
@@heatherhent4445 I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" (Nin is the host of a system (of alters and a woman whose been professionally diagnosed with DID) do a reaction video to Paytas'. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Pytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
I'll leave another comment so maybe TH-cam will promote it more 😅😅 as bad as the situation is maybe it will serve the comunnity of DID by getting people interested in learning about this disorder to understand what went wrong with this widely critiqued video of Trish
Yes but that does not establish a definition of a disorder. It proves that the symptoms are real in a biological way and if reliable such tests could be used as one (of many) criteria for diagnosis with DID. On it's own, it doesn't say much and could even tell a different story. Psychological diagnoses always involve many criteria and many fields of knowledge. It's exactly this difficulty and possible ambiguity in diagnosing a psychological disorder that triggers the discussion on whether the field of psychology is somewhat of a pseudo science.
Also systems can have some alters who need glasses and some who do not. Even bloodwork can be different. My alter Harley loves spicy food but if I front too soon after she eats my stomach feels like it exploded
My aunt is an eye doctor specialist and she did her college paper on studies showing that the curve of the lens can changes when switches take place which is impossible otherwise.
Thank you Dr Grande for your insight. My mother was emotionally taken from me by this misdiagnosis when I was eleven years old. This was one of many diagnoses she had recieved by the time that I reached adulthood, although she held to the symptoms. It devistated our family. She was later diagnosed as schizophrenic. To protect my children from mental/physical harm, I had to disconnect her from my life until a month before her passing from cancer in 2010. One of the hardest choices I've ever had to make. When she became too ill at the end of her life to take all of the prescriptions for her mental illness, I finally had my mom back for that month. I respect and appreciate your profession and do believe that it helps a great many. In my mother's case however, her life was stinted and my family's scars can still be seen today. Mental health has came along way....
Hey! I'm Nick, I've been professionally diagnosed with DID, and I just wanted to add another perspective on this whole thing. I found this video good and informative, with an admirable commitment to facts, while also a little bit distant from the source material. I'm not gonna go into too much detail, but I did want to share my views, as someone whose been living with this disorder for almost my entire life. My initial thoughts are that you don't seem like you've ever had a conversation with anyone with DID. I can tell you from personally experience that while cases vary, I only experience partial amnesia when other alters are "fronting," or in control of the body. The best way to describe it I know of is, you know how when dissociating, you can remember some things? Like if something truly awful happens, you'll remember it, you'll probably remember snippets of conversations, you could probably guess how you got to and from the place of the dissociation trigger, even if you don't have a clear memory of it. Other people fronting often feels like that. I also want to say that in the same way that a person with schizophrenia can enjoy spending time with some of their hallucinations, alters can be fun at times. Most of the time, they're strange and alienating and can be a problem to control, but I can enjoy talking to them. And, ideally, if you have had a functioning system that you work hard to develop communication in, you *can* actually can talk to them. This is the main way that information gets shared as well, is through inner-system communication. And yes, sometimes it looks like a family meeting, where a bunch of alters get together in headspace and make decisions. Not often, only when big decisions need to be made, but sometimes. Most other systems I've talked to have some form of inner-system communication, and I'm surprised you didn't come across any mention of this in your research. Some other things: I've never been diagnosed or even had a therapist consider diagnosing me with any personality disorder. I did experience ongoing childhood trauma, and I will not talk about it in a youtube comments section. I did get diagnosed with PTSD first, before DID. I am the host, which means I am the alter that fronts the most, but that does not make me any less of an alter. I also cannot say whether Trisha's system is real, but I can say that I think her video did a lot of damage to the DID/OSDD community, and I find it an uninformed and offensive waste of time to watch. That's all I can think of to add for now. Feel free to ask me anything you'd like in the replies.
thank you for sharing your story. your comment gets to the heart of the issue between lived experiences with a disorder vs clinical study of a disorder. inter-system communication is exceedingly common, even in systems that aren't necessarily well organised. specifically, as phasing occurs there is a necessity for some information to be 'shared' between the two alters. furthermore, there are some systems wherein there is an alter hierarchy that dictates the level of independence from the host; ie if someone has an alter that is 20+ years older than them, a different gender, and speaks a different language that alter is not likely able to communicate as well as the more 'original' (ie most similar to the host) alters might. i have also observed that the transfer of information is highly dependent upon the content of that information. for example, upcoming events: the host is likely to remember that they have an upcoming doctor's appointment, but a child-aged alter would not. the transfer of information between alters is what causes a phase. if you need your 'protector', your protector must know when they are needed (ie has specific words/phrases/emotions that trigger their appearance). thanks again for bravely sharing your experience!
Hi Nick! I have been diagnosed w D.I.D. too. Bern most all my life it. Diagnosed 7 yrs ago. Had CPTSD before the diagnosis. Am very integrated. Sooo much work and wow what a life! I was most likely to succeed type in high school. Then symptoms hit. I appreciate your explanation. I find my people too be helpful at time and very very smart. I love all of me's:). Multiplicity makes sense.
Never heard about this woman, so I watched several vids from her. Well, let me stay polite; I would never subscribe to her channel. That's it! Thanks for the video Dr. Grande, you DID it again 😃🇳🇱
She has too much free time and NO serious responsibilities or so it appears to me. I could only watch 30 seconds of her video. All I could think was, "I'm watching a bad abstract painting."
I was diagnosed with DID, but I see the way the "DID community" operates and how they interact with their "alters" and none of this was part of my treatment. It is actually totally opposite of how my disorder and symptoms were treated. I am so happy you posted this, especially as someone who has the diagnosis of DID, but lives a stable life now through treatment and continued therapy. I'm also so happy you spoke about the amnesia too, that is something I never hear people talk about. AND, I'm happy you spoke about alters NOT being helpful! Bc they're not helpful at all! The whole issue with the DID channel and Trisha was so frustrating and angering for me, from both sides if I'm being honest. But I'm glad I have this reference video to send my friends when they ask for my opinions on it.
I am sorry your alters were not helpful at least in recent times. My husband's insiders were on the whole quite helpful to him. Some were kept behind a brick wall and never allowed to see the light of day although for a short time one did break out but he was finally put back behind the wall. At one time you needed yours but maybe not any more?
As someone with DID, Trisha was extremely frustrating to watch. She does not depict an accurate image at all and that hurts because from someone who has this as well as having to work through the gaps as well as the trauma. The other determine what was real and what wasn't. Or even, reacting in horror when learning what the others may have done. It hurts, and it affects basically all parts of life and through treatment, I was able to work through the complexity of my situation and am able to significantly reduce the impact of the associated symptoms.
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was he first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
@jay Are you asking which of her/his alters is leaving the comment? From what I know of DID and OSDD so far,usually the 'host' or, when feeling threatened, a primary 'protector' comes to he fore - or "fronts" to use terms those with DID utilise - and takes over. But were you making a joke about identities instead? Seriously, DID is a difficult condition to live with, and those who have to cope with it don't usually appreciate jokes like that - if you were being humorous - from what I've seen to date. I am a subscriber to a few channels about DID, such as DissociaDID, TheEntropySystem, and MultiplicityAndMe, and if you're interested in genuine information about DID by individuals who live with the condition and have been professional diagnosed as having DID, I'd go to those channels on TH-cam.
@@Adara007 Thank you for addressing this, it does get tiring for systems to hear such jokes or have people invalidate us. It is nice having people like you take a stand as it certainly helps with the stigma. The other Hallmark of being able to tell DID from OSDD is the presence of two or more alters. Both take a very long time to diagnose (average time ≈7 years, which was our case) and treat as they are technically a form of CPTSD. Therapy is needed in order to effectively move forward in life towards accepting what happened while managing symptoms. As the host, I can promise you that it gets better in time with improvements in system communication, I promise. In time, you may even begin to function as a team rather than continuously persecuted by one another. It really is life-changing to have support available for your own system during difficult times, as for once there was the feeling that there is hope and that not all is lost. Take care!
Huge appreciation for offering a well researched, with comprehensive understanding of did to this online drama. It's so needed. I think many people who can offer these things don't pay attention to stuff online, but it effects so many, especially young people. Thank you sir 🙏
Trisha is a major troll. It's sad that she trolls on serious and important topics and this will not be the last time she does that. Glad there are healthy options to watch when people search for "DID" and the more of these healthy reaction videos that come out, the better.
She used to be a heavily christian conservative (until she realized she'd get more money just acting a fool), so it doesn't surprise me that she's this way, at all.
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" (Nin is the host of a system (of alters and a woman whose been professionally diagnosed with DID) do a reaction video to Paytas'. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Pytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
Exactly my thoughts! I always enjoy both Dr. Grande's reliance on evidence and scientific approach and his dry sense of humour. I saw Paytas' video when Nin, a woman with professionally diagnosed DID (whose channel, DissociaDID, is dedicated to educating people about the condition) did a "reaction" video to Paytas' one on DID. Payas wasn't a woman I'd heard of until then but I was disgusted by her video and her claims. I think she is solely after views. She's claimed to have a lot of conditions that have been deemed "trendy" or trending, and her latest claim is DID but she's described her alters as 'personalities' and has projected very negative behaviours onto them which suggests, to me, that she's using these to 'act out'. Also, by not seeing a reputable professional, she can claim she thinks she has DID now and later withdraw the claim by saying she's seen someone and doesn't actually have it. This is what I think she'll likely do next - it gives her an 'out' in case she finds pretending to have DID gets too difficult for her. The fact she called Nin (from "DissociaDID") "crazy" was not only quite vicious and nasty, but it is hypocritical considering she's claiming to have the sa,e condition, DID, as Nin does.
@@Adara007 she didn't actually say Nin was crazy she said she SEEMS crazy then went on to try and put herself in the same basket, this woman is a bitch but I feel everyone over reacted to her saying the word crazy coz in the context of what she was saying she didn't actually call Nin crazy
Anthony's interview brought DID into the popular discussion, Trish is just trying to get money out of it. As per usual. Being a troll should have consequences. :/
Thank you for speaking about the problem with DID diagnosis. I think a lot of people doesn't realize, that psychiatric diagnosis aren't static and sharply bounded, rather groups of symptoms, that doctors try to organize to be more understandtable for our brains and for insurance companies to be able classify them. What really matters is if people with something, that id now desribed as DID, will get help and manage to relieve themself from their symptoms.
Educated in psychology myself I had an interest in DID, also because it seems to be such a ‘drastic’ disorder. So I read a lot about it. I believe it is a real disorder and it can occur, but it’s extremely rare and I feel some key factors need to have taken place for it to develop in a person. First: child abuse over a longer period of time and at a relatively young age (say before the age of 7/8) and second: the child had no or hardly any safe haven to go to in that period of time. At that moment the child would basically go ‘inward’ in an attempt to create a safe haven inside their own head. That means dissociating completely and creating another ‘person’ (alter) within themselves to deal with the situation at the time of abuse. This then might (or might not) repeat itself a few times over the years as a coping strategy. Then later in life when it’s no longer needed, the alter(s) ofcourse become(s) a problem. So the people who have developed this disorder have a terrible early childhood history and are vulnerable. Which is why it angers me a lot when I see people taking advantage of it and faking it just to get attention!
Great explanation, Dr. DID has always been best explained from a Freudian perspective. I have always been skeptical of this phenomenon, believing it could be better summed up in other ways. Changing the diagnosis from "multiple personalities" to "dissociative" seems far more genuine. Having been in mental health for fifteen years, the only case that has genuinely made me question my own skepticism was regarding a pre-adolescent male. The young fellow (who had been through tremendous amounts of trauma) would change handedness, speech patterns/dialect, his name, various preferences (colors, etc), postures when walking/sitting, in addition to overall presentation and awareness. The child was fairly bright, but did not have access to the internet or extraneous things to persuade him that he needed to conform/non-conform, or attempt to trick the school. It was never apparent what provoked these changes and all clinicians were careful not to prime. Now I was not his primary worker (and was not licensed at the time) but rather worked with a team of mental health professionals at the school. It was discussed if DID would be appropriate because of the rarity and ramifications for giving the diagnosis. I'm not fully aware of what diagnosis he eventually received, though it seems as if the team did not want to go as far as providing DID because of age as well as ethical issues and skepticism pertaining to the legitimacy of the diagnosis. We certainly all agreed that age was primary reason not to follow through, though we all (and I was the youngest/least experienced professional there) had never saw this manifest as it did in this child. Given the entire team's skepticism of DID, it speaks to the remarkable changes and the way they manifests. Also, I sincerely wish people would stop attempting to diagnosis themselves. This is constantly stated in my practice and in speeches. Good 'ol WebMD and the DSM has made everyone a clinician.
Drawncept it is really frustrating that any practitioner would still question the legitimacy of DID. For those of us who have it, it is NOT something we would fake...in fact, it’s something we desperately wish we didn’t have. It is a very scary disorder and one that makes life more difficult to manage than anyone can imagine. I am sure there are cases that aren’t legitimate, but those of us who do have it know how all too real it is. It took me twenty years to get diagnosed. I was so frustrated that with all the therapy I had, I still struggled so much. Now that I have my diagnosis I have FINALLY started getting better.
Not having amnesia doesn’t necessarily mean someone is not a system. Amnesia is required for the diagnosis of DID, but there’s also OSDD-1a and OSDD-1b (other specified dissociative disorder), and OSDD-1b is basically DID without amnesia. You probably aren’t specified in these disorders, but I think you explained it well enough due to your lack of knowledge. But I definitely recommend that you look more into the disorder if you will talk about it in your future videos, because you got some small stuff a bit wrong. Anyway I love your channel!
So the person she’s trying to...I guess pretend her mental situation matches, like the person she’s using for reference, has amnesia. So that’s why everybody brings it up I think.
@@peach_dumplings2188 OSDD is diagnosed when someone fit most of the criteria enough to be diagnosed. Osdd-1a is when Amnesia between alters exist but theres not much distinction of alters. Osdd-1b is when amnesia between alters are non existant and they share memories.
DID is no joke, it literally dictates your life wether you know you have it or not. Yes, alters can be very helpful but they're mostly debilitating due to the fact that you cant control them.
I agree. I'm almost 60 and only recently DID was suggested after almost three decades of therapy. I was relieved that there is an "explanation" but distressed over what it is. It has interfered in my day to day life causing chaos, stress, confusion, fear, and never feeling "normal". No one knows the battle it is to get thru each day by looking at me. I can not imagine wanting to "fake" it - and even now I am on the fence over whether it's real and try to find ways to deny it more than confirm it.
@@amberdusk I'm sorry to hear its caused you so much distress, I empathise. Much of the time the tension can come from people asking whats wrong with you when you're switched, I've begun to recognise a pattern with that myself, if I can bring myself to a place where I agree theres nothing wrong with me (that its an alter, a different personality with sometimes entirely different likes and dislikes) then I can remove myself from the person or situation for that time because who I am in that moment just isn't clicking with that, instead of trying to be around the person or be in a situation where you're just getting tangled up in a spiderweb of your own contradictions and thoughts, eventually getting frustrated and confused. I've been trying to hone in on this for a few days and if we're anything alike this information could be helpful to you, your relationships and maybe help to ease your stress. Also, if you have to ask yourself if your faking it, you aren't; thats what my old psychologist told me, its a common worry people with DID have.
@@kyebubblegrunge7502 When my therapist tried to reach out to "the others" (a term I preferred) he was met with deep anger, and it really got in the way. I've not been able to get past this and have been avoiding dealing with DID during our sessions. So, I allow denial to set in - but I have noticed clothes/items I don't remember buying, things put on online wishlists/favorites lists that I have no memory of putting there (and I didn't even like them), and a history of watching videos I don't remember watching. I sometimes feel like I'm just in the background watching or observing while I go thru my day, and when I was much younger I would often "come around" and not know where I was, how I got there, or what was happening. There were many times when I obviously was having a conversation with a friend and they'd be waiting expectantly for me to speak or were telling me "You're making no sense!" or something like that. I learned to watch for clues to try and orient myself - like checking the time, studying people's expressions and moods, etc. These are the things that make me think that the diagnosis is valid - yet I still find myself doubting/resisting. Thanks for your advice - what you said about removing yourself for the time from the person/situation an alter was in is helpful, and something I did not think was an option. I felt thrown into it and obligated to get thru it (hence - the strategies I used to orient myself without people picking up on my confusion).
Painful to watch and disturbing in terms of the impact it could have on people looking for information about DID. Can I do a little shout out to real info from youtubers, Dr.?
DissociaDID is one excellent channel on TH-cam about DID and other trauma-related disorder. The host of the system, Nin, is the woman who is now running this channel and she aims to educate people about DID and to try to demystify and destigmatise it as much as possible. Other decent channels about DID are MultiplicityAndMe, The Entropy System, and I think there's about 5 others that are also very good but can't recall the channel names - they're listed somewhere on DissocoiaDID's channel, though, as she subscribes to them, too.
@@Adara007 Absolutely adore Nin. She's one of if not the biggest DID youtube channels. I love that she uses her voice to show people the scientific evidence that supports the disorder as well as citing the articles she's discussing.
@@Adara007 Well there you go, for real information look no further than Dissociadid, The Entropy System and Multiplicity and Me in no particular order.
If I ever loose my mind and do something kooky, Dr Grande has my permission to discuss, evaluate, speculate and diagnose me. I’d love to be scientifically informed about myself.😁
Trisha is vile, in so many ways. She self diagnoses everything, she's talked about her past and has never said anything childhood trauma..I believe she saw Anthony Padilla's video interviewing someone with DID and said "oh! me!" the same with many other things. (claiming FTM trans, bipolar, being an addict - i believe all are false) I'm very happy you made a video on this! It's great to hear a professional's take on her. She definitely doesn't want that., BTW you're right she lacks knowledge about DID, but this type of thing is recurring and she *always* lacks knowledge about what she's talking about, like the stuff i mentioned above. It's just general attention seeking from an unstable mind every month.
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was the first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin - and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for quite a while now and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
@@Adara007 As a previously long time fan of her (until last year) youre completely right! Also, she doesn't really have a big audience or fan base, she Just gets massive attention for continous controversies, so people watch her just to see what bs she does next. Also also, she has never apologized for previous drama and controversy so i don't see her actually getting a therapist for once in her life and Listening to anyone who tells her wrong about what she does. This will have died down without a resolution and she will find something else to fake and just harm more communities.
I think it's a shame that DID, and the channels with people supposedly having it, has become so popular and "trendy" almost. I think it's really good to raise awareness about stuff like this, but I just think they go about it in the wrong way by having clickbait titles and "switch caught on camera!!" in almost every video, and it really makes me doubt the legitimacy of even the big channels. And what you explain about the memory loss... Imagining how hard and mentally exhausting that must be for someone actually having the disorder, makes it hard to believe that someone with DID would sit and let every single one of their "alters" come forward to take a buzzfeed quiz or something like that, knowing exactly what is going on at all times. I also think the focus should be on getting better for these people, whatever it is they struggle with, and not to create a fanbase for their alters. And thank you for this video, very informative! :)
DissociaDID, one of the major DID youtubers, has talked about this. They hate using clickbait, but know that it's a guaranteed way of helping people to learn more about DID. If you actually click in their videos you will find that they all educate in DID in one form or another, but if you never click you never get that information, which is why the clickbait is necessary. They aren't trying to build a fan base, they are trying to educate people. Even showing all the different alters take a quiz educates people about the ways the personality states can differ. Many DID youtubers talk about the struggles of DID and how exhausting and difficult it is, but it's not terrible 100% of the time, just like with all mental illnesses. You also say DID youtubers "let" their alters come forward, as if anyone other than the host fronting is intentional and a bad thing, both of which are usually untrue. I think you would benefit a lot from actually watching the videos you think are just "trendy", because that way you will learn a lot more about this heavily stigmatized disorder. I can give you resources if you'd like, both to these channels and further reading about DID.
Camille Whitehead disocciadid deletes any comments asking genuine questions that they don’t like, so doesn’t seem to be fully about “education”. It’s a valid point about all alters being on board with channel and happy to front to be filmed for others entertainment by answering quiz, drawing what they look like, do another alters make up etc. The integrating of the host and sexual alter a week after her partner also had an integration of two alters. I was interested in PTDS flashbacks experienced by host, when surely those traumatic events would have been experienced by another alter, as that’s the purpose of the condition being “created”, to avoid the host being mentally present during trauma. All very interesting questions left unanswered. I know her viewers/subscribers aren’t owed any explanations, but when it’s being put out there online with the apparent purpose of education it would be helpful to acknowledge them
@@PinupSarah I was unaware DissocciaDID deleted comments asking genuine questions. My instinct is to defend them, and I'm very curious as what kind of questions they deleted, but I will admit that that is something I didn't know about and if true does go against their aim of education. You say it's weird that all of their alters are on board with the channel and being filmed, but not all of DissocciaDID's alters are. There are some that are, and they usually participate in the videos, but the ones that aren't don't. I don't think that having more than one alter being willing to participate in a video is evidence of them faking or just following a trend. I don't think that having an integration so soon after their partner system had one is evidence of faking or doing things for attention either. Nin talks about how the integration was a result of Chloe and Nina having a hard time, and sometimes people have hard times at the same time as their partner. I can understand why you see it as suspicious, but I don't think that having an integration soon after someone you know is that crazy of a concept. I also disagree that a host always has no memories of the trauma. Having DID doesn't necessarily mean that the host has no trauma memories. Sure, that is more common, but the purpose of DID is to make sure the host can still function in normal life. It makes sense that Nin might still have some trauma memories as long as she could still function in normal life while having them. The memories other alters have would be the ones that she couldn't be aware of while still functioning. Thank you for your respect in answering my comment, I hope mine comes across as similarity respectful. I can definitely understand where your suspicions come from, and I agree it's good to be cautious when believing claims made on the internet. Have an awesome day. :)
Camille Whitehead thanks for your lovely, respectful response also! The only question of mine that was deleted was asking about PTSD flashbacks, as one video she said she has body memories and flashbacks of being burned amongst other things, when I would have expected a “trauma holder” alter would have felt those things on her behalf. She has said she deletes comments that are triggering and re-traumatising, but it was a genuine question I asked, not accusing her of faking. If you look at the comments section on any of their vids there are only positive comments, nothing even slightly negative or even any questions. As OP said, taking the above into account I am skeptical, not that her abuse or trauma occurred, just in how it’s manifested. Hope that makes sense! :)
@@PinupSarah It does, thank you! The deleting comments thing is hard for me. On one hand, it hides genuine questions like yours and can get in the way of further education. On the other hand, they are trauma survivors and so are much of their audience, so having a bunch of negativity in the comments probably feels very threatening and can get in the way of education as well. Based on that they deleted your comment it seems like they've taken the approach of deleting anything that could even vaguely imply they are faking, which is a shame. I understand why they did it, but I agree there are better ways to go about educating people.
DID is caused by severe trauma in early childhood, before the age of nine years . it is a defence mechanism of the YOUNG brain trying deal with the abuse ( dissociation ) in a nutshell- the mind doesn't fuse together to form a single identity, it is fractured by an abuser and/or severe trauma. Only people who understand this should be dealing with it. There but for the grace of god go I.
Danny Stowers yeah split was actually pretty insulting. i mean most of it in the technical sense was correct but the beast and the fuckin’ kidnapping and the violence i mean are you kidding me how inaccurate can you get.
In the 1980's I worked at a very large private psychiatric institution in Smyrna, Georgia. During the time I was there, the institution took on a dissociative disorders program specifically for patients diagnosed with what is now DID. At that time I was a direct care staff member, who helped manage the patients, assisted with groups, sat with patients in seclusion rooms, assisted with restraints, provided supportive counseling. I was in graduate school at the time as were many of the other direct care staff, so we were a pretty bright informed group of folks. All of the direct care staff were very skeptical about DID; however, over time we learned how to effectively deal with the patterns of behavior we were observing. Some of what we observed was not easily explained by any readily available paradigm. Once you learn a set of psychological tools to deal with this disorder, they can be applied to other patients evidencing similar symptoms. From that time forward I was one of the few practitioners in most of the places I have worked that had any working knowledge for discerning and caring for this level of disorder. It has generally been a curse akin to being the Alien Abduction expert--skepticism/scorn by peers and sometimes interns; however, it has provided me with tools that allowed me to help some frequently hospitalized patients to end their readmission cycle and seek more stabilizing care in the community. On a couple of occasions, I have been able to clarify some issues for the Courts. In the 1970's I recall the extreme skepticism that Borderline was an actual disorder. That skepticism has largely ended. For DID the skepticism goes on and on.
Been waiting for a psychologist to have the balls to make this video 😂 I give you credit Grande for managing to make this video so short for the amount of problems Trisha has 😭
Same here!! Id love to see what he thinks. Having DID I know what I think of it (thats is some fake ass bullshit) but Id be really interested to see a professionals opinion.
This was so informative. Thank you! I appreciate that you always cite your sources in the description as well; raising the standards for educational videos on this platform one video at a time!
@@annewandering Same. Most mental health professionals don't seem to have a clue when it comes to multiples, beyond the fact that they should all fuse into one and be as "normal" as possible. For me and my system, being different people is normal and functional. It's not a problem unless someone decides to make it a problem.
@@annewandering It's because multiples goes beyond what is scientifically founded, and much of what multiplicity is described as, is not a part of DID, as far as the DSM-5 is concerned. DSM-5 describes Multiple Identities in DID as "Personality States" that people switch between, and not that there are multiple conscious people living in your head. Alters functioning as independent consciousnesses and having meetings together cannot be proven at this time, and therefore can't have any scientific basis.
@@crystald3655 Well, DID, since it is a disorder, has to be debilitating and negatively impact everyday life, by definition, so fusing them to make the sufferer more "normal" would be a method of removing/reducing the debilitation. If being different people is normal and functional for you, great, but you don't have DID.
"It's not the DID that's scary it's the lack of knowledge."😆
Dr. Grande 2020
@Jolie Alis this is the best part of the video Dr. Grande had me tearing up in laughter. What makes this so funny is the fact that he is not attempting to roast, shade or mock anyone he is just giving his professional (key word) opinion.
@aimee glatt this is what I call quality content. 👌
Dr G dropping savage truth, as always! Hilarious AND informative :))
"That's downright frightening" can't forget that part LMAO
That’s not even professional, not even doctor or what a real therapist really would or should say ….. Fame got to his head 🤷🏻♂️.
Seems abit creepy but I’m not diagnosing him.
“Trisha is popular on TH-cam and I’m not sure what she does” sums it up perfectly.
Sexualizes herself, trolls for attention, does mukbangs, is overly dramatic, and also makes music videos... which have plenty of room for improvement. Her entire career is essentially centered around getting attention.
@@BrendenNichols who's not here for the attention???
@@BrendenNichols I learned something new, thanks.
@@BrendenNichols not so typical for DID but rather for other types of mental issues. Not by accident DID and BPD overlap.
@@megan7788 Do you make videos pretending to have a disorder you don't? Do you act theatrical or seek attention by any means possible?
That is what I am referring to here. She is desperate for that next hit of attention and validation. There is a distinct pattern with her.
Don't worry, you're not alone. None of us understand what she does.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, lol, some" of what she does lol
She did what she does on TH-cam. And the more she does it the more you’ll get to see what she did on TH-cam.
A gluttonous trainwreck.
She is _so_ dumb that it's _almost_ upsetting that she's so rich and has such a huge platform. She's constantly spitting the dumbest things out of her mouth with complete confidence. She's done the work to get where she is and that's cool. But also, there's much smarter, kinder, more talented people who have no where near the same success.
Dr. Grande: watching her was painful and disturbing.
He nailed it.
For me it seems as if its really joyful for people like you to bully her
Wxwxw Trisha, is this one of your personalities?
Wxwxw Its not bullying. She had put out very harmful content to a massive amount of people. She needs to be held accountable for all the misinformation and hurt she has caused.
@@wxwxw8800 Wow. Talk about completely missing the picture
Trisha has been around for years, if you just now finding out about her, sorry to say yea..she's fake.
"It doesn't really matter if the disorder is real or not. They need treatment for those symptoms." Honestly I can think everyone can agree. Whether a person has a specific disorder or not, if somebody has been through a traumatic event they need to be treated and helped. Those of us with mental illnesses and those of us that have been through trauma bottom line need professional treatment.
Weeb Life I can say I am 100% certain in my opinion she does not have DID. However there clearly is something shes struggling with and I hope she decides to seek help and get an actual diagnosis from a doctor for whatever it is.
Agreed!
Exactly!! The treatment shouldn't end with "They're faking this specific disorder, so they don't need treatment for it." Clearly SOMETHING is wrong even if it's not that specific thing. I wish more people would understand this concept...
@@peridotlazuli6816 Agree for the most part, they clearly are hurting and need some form of therapy at the least. On the other side it is completely inappropriate to stigmatize and spread false information about something that many other's are suffering from. Most people just don't articulate that well, but I think multiple people/youtubers actually did pretty well discussing this.
@@zulemazahir666 Oh yes I completely agree there. People with platforms that reach such a wide audience should be careful not to spread false information. I don't think it's appropriate for Trisha to use her platform this way. I was talking more about people who are genuinely trying to figure out their mental health. Trisha seems to just...latch onto whatever is a hot topic because it gets her more views.
That’s a very diplomatic way of saying she’s full of IT.
In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'.
I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and,
unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
Kybele Kordax See this makes sense. She has also claimed to have BPD before several times and while I want to believe her, she also “came out” as black, transgender, gay man, lesbian, bisexual and chicken nugget in the same way she has now with DID. I really feel like she is just stuck in the edgy troll era of youtube and because those around her enable her, the only repercussions she faces are negative comments from strangers online. The negative engagement clearly fuels her and she seems to take pleasure in lashing out at people for criticising her (see her exchange with Anthony Padilla over the DID situation oh my god) I feel like with her it will always be a crying wolf situation and even if she comes out with something that is true, no one is going to believe her. 🤷♂️
left ot th SH in 'IT'
Kybele Kordax well said! I really appreciate you being so observant. I couldn’t watch her very longZ! Lol!
R U forgot the "s" 😂?
“It seems clear she’s trying to describe something, it’s just impossible to know what that is.”
😂 This is my new favorite channel.
Ditto! 🤭😅
Yep me too! Dr. Grande really knows how to break down info into understandable pieces. And he slips in some good cracks, which I luv! All my best to you!
Same!!
I agree, here behavior at least online would lead me to believe that she has some kind of mental illness.
E Rust yes he does ! It’s so funny 😆 he’s the best!!
I'm just sad that you had to spend time watching one of Trisha's videos for this 😔
Lol
The fact that he liked this comment lol
Yeah really taking one for the team I can't make it more than a minute in if that. It's way too painful.
tbh I didn't even know who she was till now ... just watched like 2 mins of her video (ik - I lasted long!!!) and it was a horrible experience. bottom line, I didn't understand a thing she's mumbling in that video ...
I refuse to give her a view so I'm glad he summed the video up and tore her to pieces lol
Watch Trisha record a video titled “Dear Dr. Todd Grande” & lose her shit. Lol.
Bet it'll be two hours long w her on her kitchen floor
I’m waiting for it
she'll be slamming her fist against her hand and calling him a dumbass or dumbshit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
....noooo Guys... she’ll be claiming she wants this man sooooo bad!!!! Come on, we know our Trisha 🥇!!!!
I love listening to this guy he’s so together and calm
Blu Hammons Trisha needs this
Nice....sorry
I find him boring and flat 😒
@@lilnou4u ok then don't watch him..?
@@buttermotth i dont watch him his was the first video I've watched 😂 dont worry i wont return 😝
“It seems clear she’s trying to describe something but it’s impossible to know what that is” 😂
That part was great 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
💀💀💀
That made me laugh 😄
😂😂😂
Trisha just got read by DR. GRANDE.
It's like an anime crossover you did not see coming
LMAO loosing it rn
Basically.
We all need to have a friend like Dr.Grande in our lives. Surround yourself with intellectual people and watch less stupid videos like Trishas. I’m definitely subscribing to your channel Dr Grande! 🧠🤍
The 420 likes made my day
Yes! Same
We just need friends that will be honest no if what they say is what you want to hear
"I'm not diagnosing anyone in this video."
Don't worry, she already did that for you.
I'm fucking dead XD
Average Johnson; I'm Psyched!! You translated that simply! You got me roaring in laughter! Thanks!!
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“I’m not exactly sure what she does.” Nor does she.. smh
Nor do any of us.
cenobyt3z nor do I
Unfortunately, I believe she makes lots of money as an ‘influencer’ with millions of followers on TH-cam. Very sad commentary on our society.
@Mia bear It really is a sad commentary! I was unaware of the popularity of this on YouT and absolutely floored at the number of views and proponents of this pseudoscience
Self diagonsed with multiple personaity disorder? So one of the personalities is a therapist?
Janaka Goonasekera 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Her name is Shoshana.
Gottem
Psychiatrist obvs. A black one.
She’s a pathological liar. That’s it.
Until I saw a 'reaction video' on TH-cam by Nin (on her channel, DissociaDID) to Trisha Paytas' video about DID, I had also never heard of Paytas. Nin is the host of a system (a dissociated one) of alters and who has been professionally diagnosed with DID so dedicates her channel, DissociaDID, to educating others about DID and trying to reduce the stigma surrounding the condition. However, as as long-term subscriber to DissociaDID, as well as a few other channels run by other women with DID (who also aim to educate people about the condition), I was quite disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Everything from her cosmetic 'enhancements' - which I personally think make her uglier than she probably was beforehand - to the description when one looks up her name being "media personality" plus the fact in previous videos she's apparently claimed to be or have whatever condition or situation was deemed to be 'trendy' (or 'trending') screams 'look at me'. It's very likely that the woman is a narcissist, like many on TH-cam whose videos are primarily about themselves and not containing content about others, and maybe also has bpd or histrionic personality disorder. This is mere speculation but it makes more sense than her having DID. If she had DID, one would expect she'd have mentioned the supposed trauma she would have needed to experience, prior to the age of 9, to develop DID, in previous videos considering they're full of her talking about her childhood and other matters concerning herself. She's claimed everything from being a lesbian to being trans and a 'black male' and whilst this is possible, it seems unlikely and, in Paytas' case, as fake as her false nails and lip filler.
After graduating from Uni' and having undertaken my supervised training in psychology, I worked primarily in the field of forensic psychology. DID was barely mentioned during the entire University course, and unfortunately most in the mental health field don't receive much in the way of education about DID nor training in diagnosing it, or OSDD, let alone in working therapeutically with a client with the condition. This situation, together with the fact that many mental health professionals don't believe DID is a genuine disorder, means that those with the condition typically find it takes many years to receive a formal diagnosis let alone adequate support from a qualified therapist. As such, it can be comforting for these individuals to self-diagnose based on finding their symptoms and experience of the condition listed and explained in both mental health journals and online on channels like DissociaDID's. However, self-diagnosis isn't necessarily accurate, and it's merely a first step in dealing with any condition before seeing a therapist and obtaining a correct diagnosis.
In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'.
I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and,
unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
Tiffany Zoe Narc.
She has borderline personality disorder and no I am not diagnosing Trisha, people don’t come for me... she was diagnosed at the psych hospital when her and Jason Nash broke up and she had a mental breakdown. This is the ONLY thing she has been diagnosed with. Only later on did she realise it wasn’t a “cool” diagnosis and has since denied the original diagnosis.
Tiffany Zoe Indubitably
Eliza Doolittle Psychiatry not an exact science. There’s no proof that DID is really a thing
1. Thank you for NOT playing her video, 2. Your voice is incredibly soothing, and lastly, thank you for your concise explanations
*I'm really glad that I've never ever actually seen him even play clips of videos he reviews or talks about. I think it would distract from the point he is making, and I respect his decision not to.*
I really think she’s just a troll who learned early in her youtube career that if she continues to say the most offensive, disgusting things she can laugh her way to the bank.
Bingo!! 🎯
She's an addict as well! Messed up her brain more than it already was! Porn will take her to the Looney farm for addicts
Literally. The more attention she receives whether it’s good or bad is good for her. It feeds into her lies
If people just stop paying attention to her it’ll end her TH-cam career and she won’t have a platform to hurt more people and communities with her trolling
Crystal xoxox Which is why I think the drama channels that feed off of her for content, are equally to blame. She’s alive because of the response video trend.
Yup
Fortunately, virtually no one takes Trisha Paytas seriously. She’s basically a professional internet troll
I worry about a really young person seeking guidance and finding her.
Solitaire Rivera there’s a good chance they’ll at least see the comment section of her videos and realize that literally NOBODY is in agreement with her
exactly
A professional troll would be able to convince people to take her seriously, she's just an attention whore with nothing going for her in real life.
God Dixon how about a “full-time troll”?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Anthony Padilla video interviewing people with DID. That's the video that sparked Trisha creating her video.
As a subscriber to DissociaDID for some time now, I was very pleased that Nin appeared on his video. Thankfully, Padilla approached the topic sensitively, especially when, unexpectedly - for both Nin, Padilla and his crew - Nin dissociated and one of her 'littles' turned up. If you haven't seen DissociaDID's channel, I highly recommend it - as well as MultiplicityAndMe and TheEntropySystem - for information about DID from women who've been professionally diagnosed with DID.
Kybele Kordax i’m a fan of those youtubers as well! glad to see another fan in the comments. :) just as a side note, idk if they’re all comfortable with being referred to as women. as their alters can be and are men, women, nonbinary individuals and even nonhuman, using a more inclusive term might be more ideal in the future
rae ember Ahh, I also love DissociaDID!! And Team Piñata. And MultiplicityAndMe. They’re all so good at what they do.
Trash Poteto thought DID was a trend ! What an insensitive bitch !
rae ember system is the inclusive word you’re looking for! :)
You're ability to remain objective and professional while addressing these subjects is so admirable, Doc. More mental health professionals, content creators and folks in general can learn a lot from you!💪🏽💪🏽
Your
"she says she 'dissociate the most without dissociating if that makes sense', nothing about that makes sense" this has to be one of the best dry and straightforward ways to call someone out on the bullshit I have ever seen. And I'm so glad to be alive and witness that moment.
Anthony was trying to bring awareness to DID in a safe, responsible way. It's sad to see the focus shift and in such a hurtful way.
I know. Does anyone know is dissosiadid is okay? She’s been off TH-cam since all of this.
BrianaLynn7 she’s been posting on her community tab
@Jennifer how?
Jennifer how is she a fraud?
Jennifer Where is your proof she is a fraud?
18 of Trisha Paytas' "personalities" disliked this video.
She has also claimed to be ”a thousand percent” transgender, while also saying she identifies with her birth sex ”a thousand percent”.
I think that she is not actually serious about any of this stuff, somehow her demeanor just makes it seem that she really is not as ”crazy” as she wants people to think.
MsBizzyGurl hilarious comment 😂
the trans video was a joke 🙄
Don’t forget gay, and also chicken nugget.
@Anarcho Frills given that gender identity is subjective: is it possible to define non binary identity, without defining binary gender objectively?
She's a black psychiatrist, obvs.
Dr. Grande: “Trisha Paytas is disgus....”
Me: “OMG I KNOW! i can’t believe her!”
Dr. Grande: “....disCUSSING...”
*Me: oops* 😬
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LOL
Thankfully he's professional.
Loooool
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Very informative video!! I’m gonna link this in my videos about this issue and tell ppl to go watch this for more information! Much love!
Your vid brought me here! Thanks for mentioning it! I love this channel
Nate Abahazi it brought me here too, and I’m happy it did. This is very informative
Lol this research still very speculative it's not concrete if you know anything about it actually. That's why he has to use such specific wording. To say that this is reason or proof is still based on speculation. I honestly think that this comment is dismissal of the spectrum of the disorder as well as surrounding. It's devaluation, this video is clinically unethical because it names a person he should be dismissed off of that alone. This is a man's opinion reguardless of his claims of credibility. Your wrong in making a video about it as well. There are many points that he makes that are obviously inconsistent with his wording. This disorder is still being researched there can be no concrete notions made like this. Just as autism is a spectrum there are spectrums to every aspect of psychology it's not an exact science.
Thanks for mentioning it, you were right, this is a very good video (:
“Clinically significant distress” is SUCH an under-talked about aspect of mental health diagnosis, in my opinion, especially when it comes to people self diagnosing (at least in online communities/spaces). I often see people commenting on someone describing a mental disorder saying “Wow I (insert symptom) sometimes, does that mean I have this? 😳”, but if the symptoms aren’t causing you clinically significant distress? You likely have nothing to worry about. I just wish non-professional influencers on mental health topics would emphasize that more, to prevent people getting worried for no reason :/
I'm autistic and really feel that in the autism community. We get a lot of self-diagnosers who think they're autistic because they're "quirky" but say they love every single aspect of being 'autistic' and that being 'autistic' is their whole world. The self-will I have to have in order to refrain from blatantly telling these people they wouldn't actually qualify for having clinical autism is real. Too many people think personality traits=mental disorders.
To be clear, this goes both ways. I know plenty of people, particularly men, who are clearly deeply depressed and think it's totally fine. I had one friend who was excessively anxious, to the point of honestly being handicapped in public places, and he just sort of avoided it for years because he wanted to be totally fine. He was pretty much unable to even use a drive thru for example. Another guy was getting drunk, daily, robbed the same Subway twice because, he literally wanted to get punished for something in his own words. He called me once because his car battery died at this random fucking farm and after 12 hours of doing 300 dollars worth of coke, at least 60 dollars in dabs (concentrated marijuana) and drinking his liver to death in his fucking Toyota, he was kinda lonely. Like, no shit, and our mutual friends were acting like he was just attention seeking and trying to be depressive and cool and tragic or whatever. It's disgusting. I myself have been dealing with atypical Bipolar disorder, Anxiety and OCD for years, I knew about the OCD because my symptoms were pretty cut and dry from the time I was about 6, but I only really found out this year that I was Bipolar because I thought everyone just sort of felt severely depressed
yep.
@@booklover3800 I have sympathy for people who self diagnose with Autism because it can be so hard to get diagnosed. In my state it took 2 years for my nephew to get diagnosed and he is a child. Adults are put on a waiting list for the actual waiting list. I don't think it is ideal to self diagnose but it is understandable when an official diagnosis is so hard to come by. Obviously if your "Autism" causes you no problems then you don't have it. It is called a disorder for a reason.
I recently watched a video discussing Tourette’s syndrome and the _entire_ comment section was _filled_ with people saying “I [insert random tic here]! I think I have Tourette’s too!”. It was obvious that most of those commenters were kids and it was equally exasperating and depressing to witness.
Thank you for this. She is giving impressionable minds false information.
@@kevinhornbuckle 😂😂😂
Jess Mess Exactly no one should ever joke about DID or multiple personality disorder. Very irresponsible and harmful to others. She sounds like ONISION who hopefully will be in prison soon. He’s been reported to FBI. Long story. Chris Hansen and 2 attorneys are investigating this UTUBER. He also has made 6 figures in his sick endeavors.
So did Hillary Clinton.
Watch Dissociadid’s reaction. It’s excellent and informative.
@@SM-BSW I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was he first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
Grande out here setting the record straight
The thing about DID is system responsibility so you can't just blame an altar and if you just blame them for all the perceived negative characteristics that's a sign of faking. You work with altars with behaviors so it's not like oh I have an eating disorder it's an altar I'm not responsible. Dissociadid, team pinata and a few others talk about this. I don't have DID but I saw videos recently on that and wanted to point that out. Great video as usuaul.
My partner calls it "the brand". There are 13 of them and they all follow basic rules. 👍
I have DID (now DDNOS) and you are totally correct. Its a part of therapy and seeing a professional. Wether or not an alter did something we are all in this body and have to take responsibility for our actions.
@@pattimaeda6097 (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe that an alter is a name for the different identities/people in the mind. Alters can fall into different categories depending on what they do for the system and how they act.
Yet again, this is what I know, if I'm wrong please correct me.
@@t0aboop they're questioning the spelling i think
@@danswantarot4946 oh oof ok
He really out here calling her scarily dumb 🤣 “not the DID that’s scary it’s the lack of knowledge that’s downright frightening” IM DEADDDD😭😂
Lmmfao
“It was quite painful to watch and disturbing” pretty much everyone’s thoughts watching it
I love how you respectfully say she's full of it, while educating her. I'm subscribing.
“Trisha is self-diagnosing... always a bad idea.” yep 👍🏻
EXACTLY
DissociaDID condones self-diagnosing, and it seems like Trisha weaponized it against her. Genius-level drama trolling.
Your channel is about to blow up and I'm glad. People have no idea how much detail goes into mental health and the literature. It's about time they start finding out
Dr. grande: "I'm not exactly sure what she does"
Me: "Neither is she"
“ It’s the lack of knowledge that we see expressed here .... that’s down right frightening” how I’ve felt every time I’ve watched any Trisha paytas video
Trisha is a professional train wreck and your opinion is the only one I care to hear on this subject. Many people unsubscribed from her when she was became transgender for a day.
Annika O'Brien fortunately, nobody really takes her seriously anymore, so her potential impact won’t be as strong
Natalie Marie it’s the fact that people are still giving her attention (even when it’s bad) about these topics.
When people stop giving her ANY attention is when she’s going to stop.
As soon as people forget about her, she starts another thing up to get more attention
All of this behavior shows she should be diagnosed with a completely different disorder, by a professional who, as Todd describes, looks at it from a different point of view.
Have you viewed DissociaDID’s video as well? It’s pretty informative, and she was the one called “Crazy” by Trisha
This was such a necessary video, the best way to combat misinformation and hysteria is through cold, hard, peer reviewed facts! Thank you so much for your work!
Until I saw a 'reaction video' on TH-cam by Nin (on her channel, DissociaDID) to Trisha Paytas' video about DID, I had also never heard of Paytas. Nin is the host of a system (a dissociated one) of alters and who has been professionally diagnosed with DID so dedicates her channel, DissociaDID, to educating others about DID and trying to reduce the stigma surrounding the condition. However, as as long-term subscriber to DissociaDID, as well as a few other channels run by other women with DID (who also aim to educate people about the condition), I was quite disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Everything from her cosmetic 'enhancements' - which I personally think make her uglier than she probably was beforehand - to the description when one looks up her name being "media personality" plus the fact in previous videos she's apparently claimed to be or have whatever condition or situation was deemed to be 'trendy' (or 'trending') screams 'look at me'. It's very likely that the woman is a narcissist, like many on TH-cam whose videos are primarily about themselves and not containing content about others, and maybe also has bpd or histrionic personality disorder. This is mere speculation but it makes more sense than her having DID. If she had DID, one would expect she'd have mentioned the supposed trauma she would have needed to experience, prior to the age of 9, to develop DID, in previous videos considering they're full of her talking about her childhood and other matters concerning herself. She's claimed everything from being a lesbian to being trans and a 'black male' and whilst this is possible, it seems unlikely and, in Paytas' case, as fake as her false nails and lip filler.
After graduating from Uni' and having undertaken my supervised training in psychology, I worked primarily in the field of forensic psychology. DID was barely mentioned during the entire University course, and unfortunately most in the mental health field don't receive much in the way of education about DID nor training in diagnosing it, or OSDD, let alone in working therapeutically with a client with the condition. This situation, together with the fact that many mental health professionals don't believe DID is a genuine disorder, means that those with the condition typically find it takes many years to receive a formal diagnosis let alone adequate support from a qualified therapist. As such, it can be comforting for these individuals to self-diagnose based on finding their symptoms and experience of the condition listed and explained in both mental health journals and online on channels like DissociaDID's. However, self-diagnosis isn't necessarily accurate, and it's merely a first step in dealing with any condition before seeing a therapist and obtaining a correct diagnosis.
In Trisha Paytas's case, I am extremely sceptical about her actually having DID based on her history of claiming to have whatever condition(s) or situation that's deemed to be 'trendy' or 'trending' at the time, and her description of her alleged DID. For example, she talks solely in terms of her 'alters' behaving in a very negative, toxic manner. One she described as "slutty...cruel" and so forth. No one who has DID is going to have alters which all consistently have negative traits or behaviours. Typically, there is a main host of the 'system' (of alters) and a 'protector' as well as a 'persecutor' and it's the alter which is deemed to be the 'persecutor' that is the alter involved with causing harm to the body of someone with DID such as self-injuring, being deliberately promiscuous and without taking precautions against STDs and engaging in other reckless behaviour which puts the body at risk. However, that is behaviour typically confined to one alter, not to all of them. Yet Paytas talks of all her alleged alters in a very negative fashion and it seems far more likely she's merely projecting negative behaviours onto these so-called 'personalities' in order to give her an excuse to 'act out'.
I also think, by claiming she's merely self-diagnosed DID, Trisha has given herself an 'out' with which to then say she doesn't have DID - this way she can claim, maybe in a later video, that she's seen a professional and s/he told her she did not have the condition. That enables her to cease pretending to have DID when it gets too difficult to keep acting as if she does. After all, DID is a complicated and difficult condition to try to manage day-to-day. However, as a TH-camr, if Paytas is only appearing every so often then she could pretend to have DID for a long time to come since she's not dedicated her channel to DID awareness, unlike DissociaDID, Multiplicity & Me, The Entropy System - to name a few TH-cam channels run by women with DID who aim to educate others about the condition. As such, we can't expect that Paytas will be dissociating nor switching between alters during videos and,
unless she did this in multiple video uploads, it isn't possible to debunk her claim of having DID. Only her actually seeing a therapist who has the relevant experience with DID can either prove she does indeed have DID as she claims to, or disprove her claim. Nevertheless, I personally think Paytas is pretending she has DID to gain views and attention and, whilst this is armchair psychology, her behaviour to date strongly suggests she is narcissistic - like many who have TH-cam channels - and likely has bpd if not also histrionic personality disorder. I wish she would stop making videos about mental health topics, especially as it's very clear she knows so little about them and is therefore doing a great deal of harm, spreading further misinformation about an already stigmatised condition, DID. The fact that DID is one condition which despite being in the ICD and the DSM is believed to be non-existent by many psychologists and psychiatrists and other mental health professionals makes Trisha Paytas' claims even more damaging, adding to the confusion and stigma already surrounding DID.
Matthew Pot - well said🕊
She also seems to be confusing what seems to be an unstable sense of self and a changing identity (characteristic of BPD) with dissociative states (alters).
american desert yeah and I think that it’s highly likely she has BPD.
@@kali7906more likely she is a narcissist with no self control. She always makes controversial videos like this when her views are super low
Sv Vr yeah someone else said she is probably a histrionic narcissist and that might fit even better. Who knows.. but she definitely has something.
Lets not forget that BPD is mainly about extreem mood states like mania and depression. I was diagnosed with BDP and tbh I don't think that's what Trisha has... but maybe I am missing something :/
@@Bananaabatss I'm also diagnosed with bpd and trisha def. has it too. Her relationships, her breaksdowns, her unstable identity, etc
“Basic responsibility to.... read something-“ She did read something. She read Anthony Padilla’s video title and thought ‘Oh shit! I’ll jump on this!!’
What video?
@@Seth9809 the DID interview he did, 22+ alters with dissociaDID and others
"She is trying to describe something, it's just impossible to know what that is." If that isn't the best description of Trisha's videos I don't know what is.
The most unexpected - but needed - crossover.
I love a channel where you actually feel like you've learnt something.. job well done Dr Grande 🙌
I’m so glad physicians are getting involved we need ACTUAL facts being spread
BEST description and explanation I've seen so far when critiquing Trisha's video. I love the way you describe things, standing right in the corner of Academy and standardized information.
One thing I have to critique here, is that sometimes you use a language that is the most accurate possible, but not exactly the most understandable. When you refer to MPD and DID as being technically two different things, I understand you say that because mpd's criteria AND conceptual definition of the disorder describes a different phenomenon to the one that we currently accept as "real". In other words, two different mechanisms and sets of qualities are being described and one is inaccurate. I don't think the message ceme through clear enough to not cause more confusion. Although saying "MPD AND DID are the same but one name is outdated" isn't technically accurate, I think it creates a healthier, clearer understanding of it, than downright saying they're technically separate things to and public that may or may not understand the term "technically" and may or may not catch your message the way you intend to.
That's it, aside from that, GREAT critique, great video. Will definitely subscribe and keep watching :)
“Just talking in a seemingly random and disorganized way” you sir, have just described trishas entire life 🤣
I didn't see this coming, but I can't say I'm not excited to watch this video in full.
I'm so glad you decided on making this video.
It needed to be done properly so I'm glad he tackled the subject. She apparently thrives on chaos.
@@heatherhent4445 She can't go too long without some drama and chaos online and even in her personal life. It would deeply suffocate her.
@@heatherhent4445 I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" (Nin is the host of a system (of alters and a woman whose been professionally diagnosed with DID) do a reaction video to Paytas'. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Pytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
I'll leave another comment so maybe TH-cam will promote it more 😅😅 as bad as the situation is maybe it will serve the comunnity of DID by getting people interested in learning about this disorder to understand what went wrong with this widely critiqued video of Trish
Aren't there MRI's showing the difference in brain activity between alters and tests showing that even things like cholesterol levels can change?
Yes! There are! The docuseries Many sides of Jane actually does one. You can see it on hulu.
Yes but that does not establish a definition of a disorder. It proves that the symptoms are real in a biological way and if reliable such tests could be used as one (of many) criteria for diagnosis with DID. On it's own, it doesn't say much and could even tell a different story. Psychological diagnoses always involve many criteria and many fields of knowledge. It's exactly this difficulty and possible ambiguity in diagnosing a psychological disorder that triggers the discussion on whether the field of psychology is somewhat of a pseudo science.
Also systems can have some alters who need glasses and some who do not. Even bloodwork can be different. My alter Harley loves spicy food but if I front too soon after she eats my stomach feels like it exploded
In one study the host had regular blood sugar and the second personality or who ever you word it doesnt have diabetes in blood work.
My aunt is an eye doctor specialist and she did her college paper on studies showing that the curve of the lens can changes when switches take place which is impossible otherwise.
Thank you Dr Grande for your insight. My mother was emotionally taken from me by this misdiagnosis when I was eleven years old. This was one of many diagnoses she had recieved by the time that I reached adulthood, although she held to the symptoms. It devistated our family. She was later diagnosed as schizophrenic. To protect my children from mental/physical harm, I had to disconnect her from my life until a month before her passing from cancer in 2010. One of the hardest choices I've ever had to make. When she became too ill at the end of her life to take all of the prescriptions for her mental illness, I finally had my mom back for that month. I respect and appreciate your profession and do believe that it helps a great many. In my mother's case however, her life was stinted and my family's scars can still be seen today. Mental health has came along way....
I'm more sorry than I can say.
Hey! I'm Nick, I've been professionally diagnosed with DID, and I just wanted to add another perspective on this whole thing.
I found this video good and informative, with an admirable commitment to facts, while also a little bit distant from the source material.
I'm not gonna go into too much detail, but I did want to share my views, as someone whose been living with this disorder for almost my entire life.
My initial thoughts are that you don't seem like you've ever had a conversation with anyone with DID. I can tell you from personally experience that while cases vary, I only experience partial amnesia when other alters are "fronting," or in control of the body. The best way to describe it I know of is, you know how when dissociating, you can remember some things? Like if something truly awful happens, you'll remember it, you'll probably remember snippets of conversations, you could probably guess how you got to and from the place of the dissociation trigger, even if you don't have a clear memory of it. Other people fronting often feels like that.
I also want to say that in the same way that a person with schizophrenia can enjoy spending time with some of their hallucinations, alters can be fun at times. Most of the time, they're strange and alienating and can be a problem to control, but I can enjoy talking to them. And, ideally, if you have had a functioning system that you work hard to develop communication in, you *can* actually can talk to them. This is the main way that information gets shared as well, is through inner-system communication. And yes, sometimes it looks like a family meeting, where a bunch of alters get together in headspace and make decisions. Not often, only when big decisions need to be made, but sometimes. Most other systems I've talked to have some form of inner-system communication, and I'm surprised you didn't come across any mention of this in your research.
Some other things: I've never been diagnosed or even had a therapist consider diagnosing me with any personality disorder. I did experience ongoing childhood trauma, and I will not talk about it in a youtube comments section. I did get diagnosed with PTSD first, before DID. I am the host, which means I am the alter that fronts the most, but that does not make me any less of an alter.
I also cannot say whether Trisha's system is real, but I can say that I think her video did a lot of damage to the DID/OSDD community, and I find it an uninformed and offensive waste of time to watch.
That's all I can think of to add for now.
Feel free to ask me anything you'd like in the replies.
thank you for sharing your story. your comment gets to the heart of the issue between lived experiences with a disorder vs clinical study of a disorder. inter-system communication is exceedingly common, even in systems that aren't necessarily well organised. specifically, as phasing occurs there is a necessity for some information to be 'shared' between the two alters.
furthermore, there are some systems wherein there is an alter hierarchy that dictates the level of independence from the host; ie if someone has an alter that is 20+ years older than them, a different gender, and speaks a different language that alter is not likely able to communicate as well as the more 'original' (ie most similar to the host) alters might.
i have also observed that the transfer of information is highly dependent upon the content of that information. for example, upcoming events: the host is likely to remember that they have an upcoming doctor's appointment, but a child-aged alter would not.
the transfer of information between alters is what causes a phase. if you need your 'protector', your protector must know when they are needed (ie has specific words/phrases/emotions that trigger their appearance).
thanks again for bravely sharing your experience!
Hi Nick! I have been diagnosed w D.I.D. too. Bern most all my life it. Diagnosed 7 yrs ago. Had CPTSD before the diagnosis. Am very integrated. Sooo much work and wow what a life! I was most likely to succeed type in high school. Then symptoms hit. I appreciate your explanation. I find my people too be helpful at time and very very smart. I love all of me's:). Multiplicity makes sense.
You know what you are talking about.
Never heard about this woman, so I watched several vids from her. Well, let me stay polite; I would never subscribe to her channel. That's it! Thanks for the video
Dr. Grande, you DID it again 😃🇳🇱
pocoeagle2 Ben, you are the best- your words are always so kind:)
Have a good night!😴💤
I see what you DID there lol
She has too much free time and NO serious responsibilities or so it appears to me. I could only watch 30 seconds of her video. All I could think was, "I'm watching a bad abstract painting."
I always like before I start watching. Thank you Dr Grande
I was diagnosed with DID, but I see the way the "DID community" operates and how they interact with their "alters" and none of this was part of my treatment. It is actually totally opposite of how my disorder and symptoms were treated.
I am so happy you posted this, especially as someone who has the diagnosis of DID, but lives a stable life now through treatment and continued therapy.
I'm also so happy you spoke about the amnesia too, that is something I never hear people talk about. AND, I'm happy you spoke about alters NOT being helpful! Bc they're not helpful at all!
The whole issue with the DID channel and Trisha was so frustrating and angering for me, from both sides if I'm being honest. But I'm glad I have this reference video to send my friends when they ask for my opinions on it.
I am sorry your alters were not helpful at least in recent times. My husband's insiders were on the whole quite helpful to him. Some were kept behind a brick wall and never allowed to see the light of day although for a short time one did break out but he was finally put back behind the wall. At one time you needed yours but maybe not any more?
"I'm not exactly sure what she does"
Neither do we
As someone with DID, Trisha was extremely frustrating to watch. She does not depict an accurate image at all and that hurts because from someone who has this as well as having to work through the gaps as well as the trauma. The other determine what was real and what wasn't. Or even, reacting in horror when learning what the others may have done. It hurts, and it affects basically all parts of life and through treatment, I was able to work through the complexity of my situation and am able to significantly reduce the impact of the associated symptoms.
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was he first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
@jay Are you asking which of her/his alters is leaving the comment? From what I know of DID and OSDD so far,usually the 'host' or, when feeling threatened, a primary 'protector' comes to he fore - or "fronts" to use terms those with DID utilise - and takes over. But were you making a joke about identities instead? Seriously, DID is a difficult condition to live with, and those who have to cope with it don't usually appreciate jokes like that - if you were being humorous - from what I've seen to date. I am a subscriber to a few channels about DID, such as DissociaDID, TheEntropySystem, and MultiplicityAndMe, and if you're interested in genuine information about DID by individuals who live with the condition and have been professional diagnosed as having DID, I'd go to those channels on TH-cam.
@@Adara007 Thank you for addressing this, it does get tiring for systems to hear such jokes or have people invalidate us. It is nice having people like you take a stand as it certainly helps with the stigma. The other Hallmark of being able to tell DID from OSDD is the presence of two or more alters. Both take a very long time to diagnose (average time ≈7 years, which was our case) and treat as they are technically a form of CPTSD. Therapy is needed in order to effectively move forward in life towards accepting what happened while managing symptoms. As the host, I can promise you that it gets better in time with improvements in system communication, I promise. In time, you may even begin to function as a team rather than continuously persecuted by one another. It really is life-changing to have support available for your own system during difficult times, as for once there was the feeling that there is hope and that not all is lost. Take care!
Huge appreciation for offering a well researched, with comprehensive understanding of did to this online drama. It's so needed. I think many people who can offer these things don't pay attention to stuff online, but it effects so many, especially young people. Thank you sir 🙏
Trisha is a major troll. It's sad that she trolls on serious and important topics and this will not be the last time she does that. Glad there are healthy options to watch when people search for "DID" and the more of these healthy reaction videos that come out, the better.
She used to be a heavily christian conservative (until she realized she'd get more money just acting a fool), so it doesn't surprise me that she's this way, at all.
PundarBritta well she got what she wanted, didn’t she?? I haven’t watched her video but I sure have heard about it!
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" (Nin is the host of a system (of alters and a woman whose been professionally diagnosed with DID) do a reaction video to Paytas'. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for some time and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Pytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
@@BooDotBoo tbf, that was all her trolling, too.. she's always been like this, and this won't be the last time she does it, unfortunately.
She didn't even learn after the transgender thing...
The D.I.D community was quaking! I’m glad your clarifying such misinformation.
i actually sat down and watched this whole video without skipping anything. as a psych student this is really informative
Dr Grande, you D I D it again!
Neat explanation.
13:10 Trisha:”she dosent want to scare anybody . “
Dr Grande : “I thought to myself :” too late.”
Dry humour gold !
Exactly my thoughts! I always enjoy both Dr. Grande's reliance on evidence and scientific approach and his dry sense of humour. I saw Paytas' video when Nin, a woman with professionally diagnosed DID (whose channel, DissociaDID, is dedicated to educating people about the condition) did a "reaction" video to Paytas' one on DID. Payas wasn't a woman I'd heard of until then but I was disgusted by her video and her claims. I think she is solely after views. She's claimed to have a lot of conditions that have been deemed "trendy" or trending, and her latest claim is DID but she's described her alters as 'personalities' and has projected very negative behaviours onto them which suggests, to me, that she's using these to 'act out'. Also, by not seeing a reputable professional, she can claim she thinks she has DID now and later withdraw the claim by saying she's seen someone and doesn't actually have it. This is what I think she'll likely do next - it gives her an 'out' in case she finds pretending to have DID gets too difficult for her. The fact she called Nin (from "DissociaDID") "crazy" was not only quite vicious and nasty, but it is hypocritical considering she's claiming to have the sa,e condition, DID, as Nin does.
@@Adara007 she didn't actually say Nin was crazy she said she SEEMS crazy then went on to try and put herself in the same basket, this woman is a bitch but I feel everyone over reacted to her saying the word crazy coz in the context of what she was saying she didn't actually call Nin crazy
Hahaha
Dry as the desert.
Dr. Grande, you present these mental phenomena refreshingly clearly.
Anthony's interview brought DID into the popular discussion, Trish is just trying to get money out of it. As per usual. Being a troll should have consequences. :/
Orsi Dirda I bet you Trisha is going to claim she has the coronavirus in a few days
"It'd be easier to talk about what was correct than what was incorrect in her video" yup
Thank you for speaking about the problem with DID diagnosis. I think a lot of people doesn't realize, that psychiatric diagnosis aren't static and sharply bounded, rather groups of symptoms, that doctors try to organize to be more understandtable for our brains and for insurance companies to be able classify them. What really matters is if people with something, that id now desribed as DID, will get help and manage to relieve themself from their symptoms.
“it was quite painful to watch” HAHAHAHA AINT THAT THE TRUTH. I appreciate this video 😂
Trisha Paytas is a troll. She uses topics for Clickbait and then trolls on them to get more views. She’s been doing it since 2007 on her channel.
..."read something"💀😂😂
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"Just talking in a seemingly random, disorganized way" Yup, this sums up what she puts on her channel 😂
Educated in psychology myself I had an interest in DID, also because it seems to be such a ‘drastic’ disorder. So I read a lot about it. I believe it is a real disorder and it can occur, but it’s extremely rare and I feel some key factors need to have taken place for it to develop in a person. First: child abuse over a longer period of time and at a relatively young age (say before the age of 7/8) and second: the child had no or hardly any safe haven to go to in that period of time. At that moment the child would basically go ‘inward’ in an attempt to create a safe haven inside their own head. That means dissociating completely and creating another ‘person’ (alter) within themselves to deal with the situation at the time of abuse. This then might (or might not) repeat itself a few times over the years as a coping strategy. Then later in life when it’s no longer needed, the alter(s) ofcourse become(s) a problem. So the people who have developed this disorder have a terrible early childhood history and are vulnerable. Which is why it angers me a lot when I see people taking advantage of it and faking it just to get attention!
Exactly
Dr Grande is the the voice of reason in a world full of unscientific, narcissistic TH-cam videos.
Great explanation, Dr. DID has always been best explained from a Freudian perspective. I have always been skeptical of this phenomenon, believing it could be better summed up in other ways. Changing the diagnosis from "multiple personalities" to "dissociative" seems far more genuine. Having been in mental health for fifteen years, the only case that has genuinely made me question my own skepticism was regarding a pre-adolescent male. The young fellow (who had been through tremendous amounts of trauma) would change handedness, speech patterns/dialect, his name, various preferences (colors, etc), postures when walking/sitting, in addition to overall presentation and awareness. The child was fairly bright, but did not have access to the internet or extraneous things to persuade him that he needed to conform/non-conform, or attempt to trick the school. It was never apparent what provoked these changes and all clinicians were careful not to prime.
Now I was not his primary worker (and was not licensed at the time) but rather worked with a team of mental health professionals at the school. It was discussed if DID would be appropriate because of the rarity and ramifications for giving the diagnosis. I'm not fully aware of what diagnosis he eventually received, though it seems as if the team did not want to go as far as providing DID because of age as well as ethical issues and skepticism pertaining to the legitimacy of the diagnosis. We certainly all agreed that age was primary reason not to follow through, though we all (and I was the youngest/least experienced professional there) had never saw this manifest as it did in this child. Given the entire team's skepticism of DID, it speaks to the remarkable changes and the way they manifests.
Also, I sincerely wish people would stop attempting to diagnosis themselves. This is constantly stated in my practice and in speeches. Good 'ol WebMD and the DSM has made everyone a clinician.
Drawncept it is really frustrating that any practitioner would still question the legitimacy of DID. For those of us who have it, it is NOT something we would fake...in fact, it’s something we desperately wish we didn’t have. It is a very scary disorder and one that makes life more difficult to manage than anyone can imagine. I am sure there are cases that aren’t legitimate, but those of us who do have it know how all too real it is. It took me twenty years to get diagnosed. I was so frustrated that with all the therapy I had, I still struggled so much. Now that I have my diagnosis I have FINALLY started getting better.
Not having amnesia doesn’t necessarily mean someone is not a system. Amnesia is required for the diagnosis of DID, but there’s also OSDD-1a and OSDD-1b (other specified dissociative disorder), and OSDD-1b is basically DID without amnesia. You probably aren’t specified in these disorders, but I think you explained it well enough due to your lack of knowledge. But I definitely recommend that you look more into the disorder if you will talk about it in your future videos, because you got some small stuff a bit wrong. Anyway I love your channel!
So the person she’s trying to...I guess pretend her mental situation matches, like the person she’s using for reference, has amnesia. So that’s why everybody brings it up I think.
@@peach_dumplings2188 OSDD is diagnosed when someone fit most of the criteria enough to be diagnosed. Osdd-1a is when Amnesia between alters exist but theres not much distinction of alters. Osdd-1b is when amnesia between alters are non existant and they share memories.
DID is no joke, it literally dictates your life wether you know you have it or not. Yes, alters can be very helpful but they're mostly debilitating due to the fact that you cant control them.
I agree. I'm almost 60 and only recently DID was suggested after almost three decades of therapy. I was relieved that there is an "explanation" but distressed over what it is. It has interfered in my day to day life causing chaos, stress, confusion, fear, and never feeling "normal". No one knows the battle it is to get thru each day by looking at me. I can not imagine wanting to "fake" it - and even now I am on the fence over whether it's real and try to find ways to deny it more than confirm it.
@@amberdusk I'm sorry to hear its caused you so much distress, I empathise. Much of the time the tension can come from people asking whats wrong with you when you're switched, I've begun to recognise a pattern with that myself, if I can bring myself to a place where I agree theres nothing wrong with me (that its an alter, a different personality with sometimes entirely different likes and dislikes) then I can remove myself from the person or situation for that time because who I am in that moment just isn't clicking with that, instead of trying to be around the person or be in a situation where you're just getting tangled up in a spiderweb of your own contradictions and thoughts, eventually getting frustrated and confused. I've been trying to hone in on this for a few days and if we're anything alike this information could be helpful to you, your relationships and maybe help to ease your stress. Also, if you have to ask yourself if your faking it, you aren't; thats what my old psychologist told me, its a common worry people with DID have.
@@amberdusk I'm with you. Healing the past 40 yrs. God bless you my friend.
@@kyebubblegrunge7502 When my therapist tried to reach out to "the others" (a term I preferred) he was met with deep anger, and it really got in the way. I've not been able to get past this and have been avoiding dealing with DID during our sessions. So, I allow denial to set in - but I have noticed clothes/items I don't remember buying, things put on online wishlists/favorites lists that I have no memory of putting there (and I didn't even like them), and a history of watching videos I don't remember watching. I sometimes feel like I'm just in the background watching or observing while I go thru my day, and when I was much younger I would often "come around" and not know where I was, how I got there, or what was happening. There were many times when I obviously was having a conversation with a friend and they'd be waiting expectantly for me to speak or were telling me "You're making no sense!" or something like that. I learned to watch for clues to try and orient myself - like checking the time, studying people's expressions and moods, etc. These are the things that make me think that the diagnosis is valid - yet I still find myself doubting/resisting. Thanks for your advice - what you said about removing yourself for the time from the person/situation an alter was in is helpful, and something I did not think was an option. I felt thrown into it and obligated to get thru it (hence - the strategies I used to orient myself without people picking up on my confusion).
@@khappy1286 Thanks - and the same to you!
"i guess that has some entertainment value. im not really sure.."
me with every trish paytas video-
Thank you for keeping a wary eye on such content in the web, Dr. Grande!
Painful to watch and disturbing in terms of the impact it could have on people looking for information about DID.
Can I do a little shout out to real info from youtubers, Dr.?
DissociaDID is one excellent channel on TH-cam about DID and other trauma-related disorder. The host of the system, Nin, is the woman who is now running this channel and she aims to educate people about DID and to try to demystify and destigmatise it as much as possible. Other decent channels about DID are MultiplicityAndMe, The Entropy System, and I think there's about 5 others that are also very good but can't recall the channel names - they're listed somewhere on DissocoiaDID's channel, though, as she subscribes to them, too.
@@Adara007 Absolutely adore Nin. She's one of if not the biggest DID youtube channels. I love that she uses her voice to show people the scientific evidence that supports the disorder as well as citing the articles she's discussing.
@@Adara007 Well there you go, for real information look no further than Dissociadid, The Entropy System and Multiplicity and Me in no particular order.
I also want to add TeamPinata, they don't really offer as much educational content, but rather a raw look into the life with DID (and BPD).
@Adara hmmmm many people believe this system is fake
Omg yes read something... look for even just a small amount of info on a topic before making a video, advice a lot of you tubers could use!!! Lol
I swear, I think she just watched Split and thought she was a fucking expert or something!
I'm not a tuber you're a tuber.
She watched Anthony Padilla's video with Dissociadid and though, imma do this for about 2 weeks.
"It was quite painful to watch. And disturbing."
Yeah.
If I ever loose my mind and do something kooky, Dr Grande has my permission to discuss, evaluate, speculate and diagnose me. I’d love to be scientifically informed about myself.😁
@Jody Lundy-Newman Depends on your diagnosis.
Trisha is vile, in so many ways. She self diagnoses everything, she's talked about her past and has never said anything childhood trauma..I believe she saw Anthony Padilla's video interviewing someone with DID and said "oh! me!" the same with many other things. (claiming FTM trans, bipolar, being an addict - i believe all are false) I'm very happy you made a video on this! It's great to hear a professional's take on her. She definitely doesn't want that.,
BTW you're right she lacks knowledge about DID, but this type of thing is recurring and she *always* lacks knowledge about what she's talking about, like the stuff i mentioned above. It's just general attention seeking from an unstable mind every month.
I saw Nin on the YT channel "DissociaDID" do a reaction video to Paytas'. It was the first time I'd even heard of Trisha Paytas but I've subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for a long time now. I was disgusted by Paytas and her claims. Paytas is evidently aiming for views, and fame. The way she called Nin "crazy" whilst claiming she herself has the exact same condition, DID, was awful and hurtful to Nin - and to those who, like myself, have subscribed to DissociaDID's channel for quite a while now and have come to know Nin and her system's alters over time. Paytas was describing her so-called 'personalities' in only negative terms, so it seemed to me Paytas was merely projecting negative behaviours onto them and this enables her, if she wants, to 'act out' and claim DID is the reason for toxic behaviour. Also, by saying she's self-diagnosed, Paytas has given herself an 'out' from having DID - she can later do a video where she can say she's seen a professional and was told she didn't have DID after all. This is what I expect she's likely to do if pretending to have DID becomes too difficult for her,. DID is a serious condition and is extremely difficult for people with it to deal with. People like Paytas just add more confusion to the issue and add to the stigma surrounding it. It's a pity she doesn't stop trying to gain attention by talking about subjects she clearly knows very little about, especially given her strangely large audience.
Lol if anything you should believe when she says she is on drugs - she's a wannabe idk what in LA
@@Adara007 As a previously long time fan of her (until last year) youre completely right!
Also, she doesn't really have a big audience or fan base, she Just gets massive attention for continous controversies, so people watch her just to see what bs she does next.
Also also, she has never apologized for previous drama and controversy so i don't see her actually getting a therapist for once in her life and Listening to anyone who tells her wrong about what she does. This will have died down without a resolution and she will find something else to fake and just harm more communities.
@@oliverxhmll She definitely does something lmao. But i would never call her a someone suffering from addiction, unless its BED
I think it's a shame that DID, and the channels with people supposedly having it, has become so popular and "trendy" almost. I think it's really good to raise awareness about stuff like this, but I just think they go about it in the wrong way by having clickbait titles and "switch caught on camera!!" in almost every video, and it really makes me doubt the legitimacy of even the big channels.
And what you explain about the memory loss... Imagining how hard and mentally exhausting that must be for someone actually having the disorder, makes it hard to believe that someone with DID would sit and let every single one of their "alters" come forward to take a buzzfeed quiz or something like that, knowing exactly what is going on at all times. I also think the focus should be on getting better for these people, whatever it is they struggle with, and not to create a fanbase for their alters.
And thank you for this video, very informative! :)
DissociaDID, one of the major DID youtubers, has talked about this. They hate using clickbait, but know that it's a guaranteed way of helping people to learn more about DID. If you actually click in their videos you will find that they all educate in DID in one form or another, but if you never click you never get that information, which is why the clickbait is necessary.
They aren't trying to build a fan base, they are trying to educate people. Even showing all the different alters take a quiz educates people about the ways the personality states can differ. Many DID youtubers talk about the struggles of DID and how exhausting and difficult it is, but it's not terrible 100% of the time, just like with all mental illnesses.
You also say DID youtubers "let" their alters come forward, as if anyone other than the host fronting is intentional and a bad thing, both of which are usually untrue. I think you would benefit a lot from actually watching the videos you think are just "trendy", because that way you will learn a lot more about this heavily stigmatized disorder. I can give you resources if you'd like, both to these channels and further reading about DID.
Camille Whitehead disocciadid deletes any comments asking genuine questions that they don’t like, so doesn’t seem to be fully about “education”. It’s a valid point about all alters being on board with channel and happy to front to be filmed for others entertainment by answering quiz, drawing what they look like, do another alters make up etc. The integrating of the host and sexual alter a week after her partner also had an integration of two alters. I was interested in PTDS flashbacks experienced by host, when surely those traumatic events would have been experienced by another alter, as that’s the purpose of the condition being “created”, to avoid the host being mentally present during trauma. All very interesting questions left unanswered. I know her viewers/subscribers aren’t owed any explanations, but when it’s being put out there online with the apparent purpose of education it would be helpful to acknowledge them
@@PinupSarah I was unaware DissocciaDID deleted comments asking genuine questions. My instinct is to defend them, and I'm very curious as what kind of questions they deleted, but I will admit that that is something I didn't know about and if true does go against their aim of education.
You say it's weird that all of their alters are on board with the channel and being filmed, but not all of DissocciaDID's alters are. There are some that are, and they usually participate in the videos, but the ones that aren't don't. I don't think that having more than one alter being willing to participate in a video is evidence of them faking or just following a trend.
I don't think that having an integration so soon after their partner system had one is evidence of faking or doing things for attention either. Nin talks about how the integration was a result of Chloe and Nina having a hard time, and sometimes people have hard times at the same time as their partner. I can understand why you see it as suspicious, but I don't think that having an integration soon after someone you know is that crazy of a concept.
I also disagree that a host always has no memories of the trauma. Having DID doesn't necessarily mean that the host has no trauma memories. Sure, that is more common, but the purpose of DID is to make sure the host can still function in normal life. It makes sense that Nin might still have some trauma memories as long as she could still function in normal life while having them. The memories other alters have would be the ones that she couldn't be aware of while still functioning.
Thank you for your respect in answering my comment, I hope mine comes across as similarity respectful. I can definitely understand where your suspicions come from, and I agree it's good to be cautious when believing claims made on the internet. Have an awesome day. :)
Camille Whitehead thanks for your lovely, respectful response also! The only question of mine that was deleted was asking about PTSD flashbacks, as one video she said she has body memories and flashbacks of being burned amongst other things, when I would have expected a “trauma holder” alter would have felt those things on her behalf. She has said she deletes comments that are triggering and re-traumatising, but it was a genuine question I asked, not accusing her of faking. If you look at the comments section on any of their vids there are only positive comments, nothing even slightly negative or even any questions. As OP said, taking the above into account I am skeptical, not that her abuse or trauma occurred, just in how it’s manifested. Hope that makes sense! :)
@@PinupSarah It does, thank you! The deleting comments thing is hard for me. On one hand, it hides genuine questions like yours and can get in the way of further education. On the other hand, they are trauma survivors and so are much of their audience, so having a bunch of negativity in the comments probably feels very threatening and can get in the way of education as well. Based on that they deleted your comment it seems like they've taken the approach of deleting anything that could even vaguely imply they are faking, which is a shame. I understand why they did it, but I agree there are better ways to go about educating people.
DID is caused by severe trauma in early childhood, before the age of nine years . it is a defence mechanism of the YOUNG brain trying deal with the abuse ( dissociation ) in a nutshell- the mind doesn't fuse together to form a single identity, it is fractured by an abuser and/or severe trauma. Only people who understand this should be dealing with it. There but for the grace of god go I.
@Danny Stowers Split is a very stigmatizing portrayal of DID, but it did get that much correct.
Danny Stowers yeah split was actually pretty insulting. i mean most of it in the technical sense was correct but the beast and the fuckin’ kidnapping and the violence i mean are you kidding me how inaccurate can you get.
@@freezyberries only a psychopath could find split informative.
Stephen Parkes true
Camille Whitehead Pretty sure “Split” wasn’t meant to be “educational”, lol!
He just very professionally, ethically and in a very well educated way dragged Trish
In the 1980's I worked at a very large private psychiatric institution in Smyrna, Georgia. During the time I was there, the institution took on a dissociative disorders program specifically for patients diagnosed with what is now DID. At that time I was a direct care staff member, who helped manage the patients, assisted with groups, sat with patients in seclusion rooms, assisted with restraints, provided supportive counseling. I was in graduate school at the time as were many of the other direct care staff, so we were a pretty bright informed group of folks. All of the direct care staff were very skeptical about DID; however, over time we learned how to effectively deal with the patterns of behavior we were observing. Some of what we observed was not easily explained by any readily available paradigm. Once you learn a set of psychological tools to deal with this disorder, they can be applied to other patients evidencing similar symptoms. From that time forward I was one of the few practitioners in most of the places I have worked that had any working knowledge for discerning and caring for this level of disorder. It has generally been a curse akin to being the Alien Abduction expert--skepticism/scorn by peers and sometimes interns; however, it has provided me with tools that allowed me to help some frequently hospitalized patients to end their readmission cycle and seek more stabilizing care in the community. On a couple of occasions, I have been able to clarify some issues for the Courts. In the 1970's I recall the extreme skepticism that Borderline was an actual disorder. That skepticism has largely ended. For DID the skepticism goes on and on.
Been waiting for a psychologist to have the balls to make this video 😂 I give you credit Grande for managing to make this video so short for the amount of problems Trisha has 😭
Yessss Dr. Grande the entire internet needs this 😂 Trisha is known to be manipulative.
Bella Swan “manipulative”? I wouldn’t give her THAT much credit..
@@Areios1019 I guess "asshole" would be a nice term for her
15:27 'nothing about that makes sense' is basically Trisha's whole channel
I'm quite interested in seeing a reaction on her most recent "Switch Caught on Camera" video
Same here!! Id love to see what he thinks. Having DID I know what I think of it (thats is some fake ass bullshit) but Id be really interested to see a professionals opinion.
This was so informative. Thank you! I appreciate that you always cite your sources in the description as well; raising the standards for educational videos on this platform one video at a time!
The brown poloshirt suits dr Grande best; its better than shirt & tie combos:) love the content of course
Yeah, he looks cute .
Aww, I love the education, encouragement and comments back at me.Take care, love you, thanks again and you're welcome.
I rarely get through one of your videos without bursting out laughing at your dry wit. This one was no exception.
Dr.Grande just has this peace to him he is very calming I wish I had him as my counselor. Love you dr. Grande.
“ maybe the alters get together and have meetings” Dr. Grande your droll sense of humor cracks me up🤣🤣🤣
This joke was not cool as Systems really do have meetings where everyone gets together and makes decisions and plans. -Kyle
@@crystald3655 Agreed. That is why I wonder if Dr. Grande, as scientific as he is, actually understands multiples at all.
@@annewandering Same. Most mental health professionals don't seem to have a clue when it comes to multiples, beyond the fact that they should all fuse into one and be as "normal" as possible. For me and my system, being different people is normal and functional. It's not a problem unless someone decides to make it a problem.
@@annewandering It's because multiples goes beyond what is scientifically founded, and much of what multiplicity is described as, is not a part of DID, as far as the DSM-5 is concerned. DSM-5 describes Multiple Identities in DID as "Personality States" that people switch between, and not that there are multiple conscious people living in your head. Alters functioning as independent consciousnesses and having meetings together cannot be proven at this time, and therefore can't have any scientific basis.
@@crystald3655 Well, DID, since it is a disorder, has to be debilitating and negatively impact everyday life, by definition, so fusing them to make the sufferer more "normal" would be a method of removing/reducing the debilitation. If being different people is normal and functional for you, great, but you don't have DID.