Dr. Greger gave testimony to the Dietary Guidelines Committee for these new recommendations. Watch it here: nutritionfacts.org/video/highlights-from-the-2020-dietary-guidelines-hearing/
This channels aim is to promote ONLY the vegan diet. This video is not a typical release by Dr. Greger, as he usually tries to hide his vegan agenda behind a carefully crafted image of a neutral presenter. This makes him IMV very dishonest. Vegan of course can be a healthy diet to follow, but what Dr. Greger won't tell you is it is not the only healthy human diet. So get some balance, view other channels, Dr Greger has an agenda.
@@yasuo65 The first thing I do with any diet claims is look at the person who is making them. So far today I've watched: - a muscular, toned, literally bouncing and glowing with health man explaining the science behind Keto on another video - heard this guy Dr Gregor's voiceover, had to Google his picture to see that : his arms and legs are spindly compared to his out of shape body he looks very Low-Testosterone and seems basically malnourished. Hmmm.....
Thanks. That was helpful. As I try to educate myself and improve my eating habits, I've been running into a lot of conflicting information on dietary cholesterol. Now I know why.
WOW!!! This really makes this particular health information clear!!! I was so confused about it... Thank you so so much good doctor!!! You are saving countless live with your work. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️
Your work is so valuable! Thank you so much, Dr. Greger! Your book saved my mothers life. She and my father follow a whole food plant based diet since 4 years and they both feel so good. They are now age 79 and 85.
that is precisely why I don't trust him much. Out of inconclusive scientific publications he manages to arrive at very consistent conclusions where everyone else can't. Until I have a deeper understanding of what's going on here, I'll just assume he's just very good at concealing his cherry-picking.
@@ejRecording Thanks, I watched their video on this topic. It was long and rather technical, but it gave me the insight I needed to understand precisely why I shouldn't take these studies at face value.
@Majestic Artimus That one too, but the video I watched first was one where an expert in the metabolism of fats explains how and why each person's response to dietary cholesterol is different, which explains the results mentioned in this video by Michael Greger and also explains why only a handful of people really should do as Greger says and avoid cholesterol as much as possible, while most people don't really absorb much dietary cholesterol. The title was "the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol & individual variability"
You and me both, kid. I went down the carnivore/keto rabbit hole and am now returning to a Mediterranean way of eating. After watching this video, I will certainly be cutting out cholesterol as much as I can.
The thing you don't understand is that if he starts advising people against it, he will end up with fewer patients in his hospital room. I think it makes sense 🤑 that he would recommend people eat more eggs and coconut milk, considering that he is a cardiothoracic surgeon.
I looked at the first study. I only says that more than 1 egg per day "may" increase lood lipid markers. LDL does increase but so does HDL. And the LDL/HDL ratio doesn't change. It also mentioned that one egg per day isn't going to bring any health issue.
High cholesterol is not bad for everyone. Plus these studies don't include info like carb intake and inflammation. I don't buy it. My grandfather is turning 100 this year. He lived in Greece eating eggs every day on a Mediterranean diet all his life
That’s an anecdote. A well designed study only measures one thing at a time. Some people do have the genetics to not increase their risk by eating large amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol indeed.
If you want a great overall explanation of cholesterol “nutrition made simple” did a debunk video of the bald doctor recently where he spread misinformation about cholesterol like crazy
This is very unscientific. Plus, there is some people who do really live longer by doing bad habits like drinking smoking and eating high fats but they were rare. What we should be looking is a habit that is beneficial and compatible for the average people and not some few.
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Why do so many people, including doctors say we need animal fat / cholesterol / collagen ? our cells are surrounded by fat. Our adrenal glands need lots of animal fat, it's confusing. And Dr Terry Wahls developed serious MS with plants, she healed on animal-based diet !
It's so confusing and I don't know what to believe. I just read from Harvard Health that dietary cholesterol has only modest effects to blood cholesterol unless you happen to be a "responder" type. I have always thought Harvard Health would be a credible source. How should we know what to believe?
I think I found that article. I did not dive into it far enough to find the source for the 300mg cap. The rest of it reads like a grocery checkout magazine. As a scientist I am skeptical of any statements using words without a precise definition. 'Modest' is in the eye of the beholder and if they are referring to the recent studies DESIGNED to show only a modest increase, well, there you are. Plus saying the current guidelines 'suggest caution', again, that's a glossing over of 'as little as possible'. If you listen to Dr. Greger and his like-minded colleagues you'll see how medical schools teach diagnosis and prescribing medications and procedures, not how to promote optimal health by any means, including diet and lifestyle. Harvard Health is a product of that mindset. I would loosely quote Dr. G. to suggest that in the absence of any other information, a WFPB diet should be the default as it has been demonstrated to be the least harmful. Basing your health on someone else's definition of modest only hurts you if that modest rise brings about a cardiac event. He gives us access to the studies so we can read them and make our own evaluations and act accordingly.
That blog article published in Harvard Health is written by a single author (an editorial), and is either lying or poorly researched, e.g. "In fact, the 2015-2020 Dietary Guidelines for Americans eliminated an earlier recommendation to limit dietary cholesterol to 300 milligrams (mg) per day-although they still suggest caution on overall intake." This is not what happened. They changed it to "eat as little dietary cholesterol as possible", they did not remove the limit. The purpose of this article is clearly to cast doubt on established science so that consumption of those foods would be upkept, e.g. "the most important factor isn't how much cholesterol-rich food you eat. Rather, it's what else you eat". It's a sales pitch.
I eat almost a dozen eggs a week, as we have chickens. That's our main source of protein. The rest of our diet is primarily vegetarian. We have a small farm. Yet my latest bloodwork shows my LDL, HDL, total cholesterol and triglyceride numbers to be well within normal limits. So is my blood pressure. My doctor does not understand this, as it's supposedly 'not possible'. The number don't lie, though. My wife and I are slender and fit, get plenty of vigorous exercise, rarely drink alcohol, never smoked, never eat in restaurants, never eat take-out or convenience foods, and use only olive and avocado oils (never refined seed oils). Although we are in our sixties and seventies we take no pharmaceutical drugs and have no underlying health issues. Our secret? We never fell for the idea that abandoning butter and eggs and loading up on refined carbohydrates was a good idea. Look around: see what following the official 'science-based' dietary guidelines for half a century has done to western society? We are surrounded by millions of overweight and obese citizens with one foot in the grave.
Lol, people have not been following the guidelines. People are stuffing themselves with cheese and meat. Your own bloodwork is an anecdote, we need to look at big (non industry funded) studies.
My guess would be the fact that your only "sin" is consuming eggs, everything else in your lifestyle seems healthy, which means you are, overall, following a healthier lifestyle than probably 95% of the population. The question is: would you be even healthier if you didn't consume eggs?
I thought, via nutritionist at Boston Heart labs, saturated fats are ok, not harmful, as long as grass fed, organic, etc, and as long as you refrain from consuming sugar and highly processed foods. Sugar acts as irritant inside veins, causing inflammation. Cholesterol then acts as a bandaid to try and heal the area. Hence, plaque formation. So is cholesterol and saturated fat ok as long as sugar and HPF’s are avoided? Thank you!
Countless of studies concluded that Saturated Fats of any kinds either from Grass fed or Non-Grass fed are equally dangerous. It's not about where you source your saturated fats, it's the saturated fats itself. Processed foods aren't bad, fruit smoothies are processed foods, dried fruits are processed also, and anything that undergo extra steps even just blending, mashing, and freezing even without any addrd ingredients are processed. What we should avoid is the ultra-processed foods, thats what the snacks and junk food we see in the groceries are. In sugar, what we should avoid is added sugar like table sugar, honey, molasses, maple syrup, corn syrup and etc. You shouldn't avoid fruits just because there's natural sugar on it, fruits are important, as long as you eat it a long with its fiber and never juice it.
@@user-zu7gk9ol9fno, you don't need to avoid flax and spelt and it's even a big mistake to avoid fruits. Sugar from fruits is only bad when you juice it and never eat the fiber. Fiber will going to regulate the sugar from fruits. Plus, if you are going to avoid fruits, you would loss a lots of essential nutritients and may weaken your immune system.
@@Ceisriel And the one he shows are not sponsored or what? Almost all studies are sponsored. Don't you find it weird that he excludes so many studies that don't fit his narrative of plant based food?
@@Junker_1 you are right, go eat your 16 eggs breakfast and 7 steaks, big broccoli wants to keep you small. go and grow your muscles so big that you'll finally be able to touch the sky and prove to everyone that the earth is flat and birds are robots. but on a serious note even studies sponsored by the egg industry show increases in cholesterol and bad stuff, it's just that they are interpreted differently.... like I can make a study that shows that throwing a boulder in your head is bad for you, but I can say that it's good for the environment because theres less meatheads around. Honestly don't discuss with me if you want to gamble your health go ahead i don't care wether you survive or not.
I will ask you again if cholestetol is the cause of disease then why does it not damage veins snd tiny capilaries? This is just golden. You make the case those of us who are rational omnivores have been making when you look at cause and effect. Of course cholesterol goes up and down and it stays flat most of the time because it is a lipid. Triglycerides also go up and down as well as glucose after meals. Could it be because cholesterol is suppose to go up a down, the liver knows what it is doing and cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease and stroke. Could it actually be habitually high blood glucose caused by habitually pure fuel sugar and oil from processed grain/seed over whelming the liver causing liver dysfunction, leading to fatty liver, leading to diabetes and the habitually high blood glucose damaging the primary arteries leaving the heart and feeding blood to everything. Then cholestetol comes and tries to fix the damage the sugar caused. Which then makes cholesterol a vector moot and the fact our body produces it without eating and keeps it largely flat should tell someone with advanced education that the body/liver probably knows what its doing unless you feed it pure fuel that our digestive tract wasnt designed for 🤪
@@chiyerano happy horseshite, its habitually high blood sugar that damages the arteries that the cholesterol then habitually tries to fix until it creates a blockage. Ask a disbetic why they have a shorter life expectancy and far high odds of heart attack and strokes. Vegans statistically have heart attacks and strokes just like everyone else because humans are habitually eating high glycemic fuel for a body that primarily burns fat for fuel. Body only can store 2000 calories of glucose/glycogen in muscles and liver total then the liver converts excess glucose into triglycerides/fat for fuel and storage.
Thanks for this video. It clearly lays out the distinct impact of chloesterol. It also gives a nice high level view of political side of things regarding chloesterol. I appreciate this type of analysis greatly. I have one question though. How much does the cholesterol from 1 egg (or an any small amount) increase LDL or vein calcification? Yes, there is an impact, yes it is statistically significant but if this impact is very limited, then we still dont have to demonize it and people among us shouldnt feel too bad when they eat once in a while. I believe the next level Dr Greger can go is sizing the detrimental impact of these list factors such as smoking vs eating one egg per day or eating processed food with added sugar, not exercising etc.
Thank you Dr. Greger for your commitment to the truth! I’m sure this video required a lot of work, in both time reading the studies and the fantastic visuals produced in this video, to make things clear for us to follow. 💙🌱💪
Can you do another video on DART 2? Apparently there was an funding issue and now it is disregarded as evidence contradicting DART. Our dietary guidelines are based on DART 1 with mentioning DART 2 as no evidence.
Does the effect of eggs on blood cholesterol levels change if they are consumed through baking such as cookies, cakes, and brownies, as opposed to consumed through frying like scrambled eggs?
Interesting question, but as a rule of thumb, it’s always safe to say that if a baked good’s ingredients are unhealthy then the end result is also unhealthy. You have to remember that besides eggs, pastries also tend to have in things like white flour, sugar, and butter. If bakers can find healthier substitutes for these types of ingredients then the resulting pastries will be healthier too.
Is this really true? There are dozens of studies, that dietary cholesterol only plays a very minor role on blood cholesterol. Im honestly confused what to believe now!
Try to take a look at the actual studies and not what the influencers say about them. Observational studies are useful for finding correlations, but not for making cause-effect conclusions. (People who have cholesterol problems are likely to eat fewer eggs as a response to the problem.) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3875930/ This is an interesting paper that claims that dietary cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol. University students were assigned to two groups, one ate two eggs a day for breakfast in the cafeteria, the other did not. Both groups could eat pancakes, waffles, bacon, sausages, butter on their toast, red-eye gravy on their biscuits, whole milk in their cereal, etc. (Of course, pancakes and waffles contain eggs.) So it is no surprise that the study showed no difference in serum cholesterol between the two groups. Try TH-cam "Nutrition made simple"
I changed my diet to be almost completely plant based and healthy about two months ago, and I now get a very minimal amount of cholesterol in my diet. I'm doing great, and my bloodwork results showed improvements on pretty much every metric. I've also lost about 5 kg (11 pounds) of weight - almost all of fat from my midsection; I can clearly see the difference in the mirror. I also feel really good! This diet agrees with me. 😎
I'd be curious to see a study from Japan. They tend to live longer than North Americans and yet they eat large amounts of eggs. Is it possible some east Asian vegetables lower the serum cholesterol. Or does the high fish and low saturated fat diet play a part? Or is there just a lower level of LDL in most east Asian DNA?
Asian vegetables definitely especially since they have fiber which feeds good bacteria that according to some doctors like Dr. Dayspring helps to improve things like apoB lipid profile which is an important marker for cardiovascular health.
Adding an egg to a dish was always considered a luxury of sorts and never common practice. Today, you have to wonder if their climb in heart disease has anything to do with their increase in consumption of dietary cholesterol.
One common argument I hear about eggs consumption is related to "happy chickens" eggs being different from factory-farm eggs. Is there any evidence on that?
No. There are same amounts of cholesterol and BCAA etc. Finnish 🇫🇮 authorities published a warning, when it was discovered that there was toxic PFOS compaunds in organicly produced eggs. Why? Even "organic" chickens are fed with fish, which contain environmental toxins. BTW, half of egg laying chickens have sternal fractures according to recently published study. And free range is kinda scam. Please watch Earthling Ed's TH-cam vid about free range and organic animal production. Or/and watch Dominion on TH-cam 🐣 Thank you for considering.
I have been eating a dozen eggs a day all my life and I'm 55 years old. I recently had a cardiac MRI with contrast and the doctor said, NO SIGN of heart disease. I also love my milk. I drink 2 litres a day.
This reminds me of Emma Morano, an Italian who lived to age 114, ate two eggs a day for pretty much her whole life. I'm not saying you should eat dozens of eggs. But as always, quality over quantity. Especially, as we grow older. Eggs are a very easy and good source of protein and choline for brain and muscle health. Personally, I never worried about dietry cholesterol much. There are far more important things to worry about health wise.
I have a list of over 30 people over age 100 who ate eggs every day but none were overweight or ate any junk food, just mostly all single ingredient home cooked foods. If you want the list just ask.
Someone please explain why everyone including most Google searches say dietary cholesterol has no impact ??? Been vegan for a long time and my cholesterol is extremely low so anecdotally I can see it works. I’m just confused why most experts agree dietary cholesterol has no impact
Here is the American Heart Association's ideas about dietary cholesterol: "Previously, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake be limited to no more than 300 milligrams per day. The 2015 DGAC [Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee] will not bring forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol, consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC report. Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption."
I would love to hear Dr Gregor's thoughts on donating plasma regularly, both as someone on a plant based diet and those on a SAD diet. I imagine this would artificially remove cholesterol from the blood, but to what extent?
Although Dr Greger has addressed the subject very well, there is an entire industry on TH-cam with the generic assertion “eggs and/or cholesterol are actually good for you.” I would love it if he addressed directly some of the leading advocates of this dangerous idea.
At the same time quality eggs have high content of the for heart and artery vessel so beneficial vitamin K2! So obviously a combination of positive and negative aspects for same target organs... what could be the summed up result of that?
Its so hard to get a definitive answer on this subject. The video that led me to this video says the opposite. 23 studies consisting of over 123k people came to the conclusion that eggs not only never caused heart disease but actually helped your heart.
I eat eggs daily. Up to 8. No cholesterol issues whatsoever. Not to mention that the belief that high cholesterol equates to a high risk of heart disease is highly debatable.
While it may be true the egg industry funded studies to show egg consumption doesn't raise cholesterol levels, wouldn't it be fair to see the funding behind the studies you cited in your video?
Genetics play a crucial role in determining how concerned a person should be about dietary cholesterol. Dr. Gil Carvalho (MD, PhD) has a good recent video covering this. A significant percentage of the population does not have to worry about it at all. So why worry them? Another significant percentage should be more careful. And others are in-between. - All depending on their genes.
@@chiyerano Epigenetics but genetics not really on that level. In the first part of the comment they talked about genes that code for protein responsible to pull cholesterol from the gut into the cells and from the cells into the circulatory system. If they are broken (good because you don't respond to dietary cholesterol) the environment will not give you the ability back to produce these proteins. On the other hand if you have high expression of that gene (bad because you respond to dietary cholesterol strongly) that could be potentially influenced by the environment. I have not seen evidence in either direction on the last. Could be the case or not.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos Have you ever read and heard of the effects of 'forever' chemicals not to mention radiation and nuclear waste in the environment on the body? I would say that environmental factors do indeed affect genetics on some levels, not just epigenetics. To be more specific, I was referring more to ApoB lipid profiles which some doctors like Dr. Dayspring have mentioned can be improved with the presence of lactobacilli or good bacteria in the gut.
@@chiyerano The gut microbiome absolutely has influence on the blood lipids. But that is a different topic. That's not genetics nor epigenetics. Chemicals, radiation, ... can change individual genes in an individual cell. But the change is not directed and the likelihood that a specific change that makes a broken gene expressible again is done in enough "gut cells" to matter is for all practical purposes zero.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos How apoB levels respond individually is indeed partly due to an individual's genetics. Just ask Dr. Dayspring among others who have studied these matters, they can tell you.
I just bought a dozen eggs. And paid extra for pastured ones. Sigh. I guess that was money wasted. I’m glad I saw this though. I’ll take losing $7 over losing my life.
Let them be your last dozen ever. I adopted a WFPB diet eight years ago, but I also will indulge in unhealthy foods on a limited basis (limited to occasions/holidays, AND limited in quantity-no pigging out). I used to have an endless supply of farm-free-ranging hen eggs, and still could. Just not interested in regular consumption of deleterious dietary items any more. I have enough bad habits--LOVE PLANTS though. You'll do better without them, and with zero animal products consumed you'll likely feel less inflammation and aches and pains--at least I do, and when it first happened was only 4 days into my new life. At that point I quit taking ibuprofen regularly just to feel "ok". Society and family can make eating healthy a bit of a challenge. Stay the course enjoy the benefits. Best of luck and success with your health.
@@abaddonmorningstar8871 Eggs are not safe or healthy according to the USDA and also according to dozens of doctors I trust because they practice evidence-based medicine and we THRIVE on carbs! CARBS are what fuels the BRAIN and also fuels our muscles. Protein is only a building block and excess protein can be harmful. Most folks eat way too much protein and avoid brain fuel.
@@wadepatton2433 How can an egg be bad? An egg has proper absorbable proteins, fats, vitamins and minerals the body needs including Vitamin A1, B12, K2, D, Choline, Iodine, C15:0 and Sphingolipids all 8 which destroy cancer cells and protect the heart. It does have a lot of cholesterol so 4 or 5 a week should be ok. A cigarette and soda has none of those 8 listed nutrients.
@@wadepatton2433 Your info didn't get posted on here maybe because too long but I got it elsewhere. You switched the subject to big business funding instead of answering the question about the nutrients I listed. Many foods do not have the word healthy on the label like romaine lettuce or raspberries, and many do like diet soda had a heart healthy sign and shortening had heart healthy before the FDA removed it because it had too much trans fats. Did the FDA remove eggs from the food supply? Also you contradicted yourself about why I compared egg to cigarettes yet you just did yourself with egg compared to cigarettes for promotion of cancer.
Two parts of ldl. Little particles Large particles The more large particles the better. Get lipid panel to address your cholesterol and ease your mind. The liver makes 85% of your cholesterol. Your brain is made of cholesterol.
I've started eating 12 eggs, 2 tbsp of ghee, chicken, sheep tallow daily. occationally some red meat and im feeling great...I'm able to fast Ramadan easily and gained some muscles
@@ml3141 since he just started this horrible diet, there will be no damage yet. You can even smoke for decades before it seriously affects your health.
@@CharlieFader i don't think so because along with that horrible diet as you describe it I also consume garlic, turmeric, ginger, oregano ,thyme olive oil, propolis,veggies, fruits. Millet, rice
So many counter narratives on what is good for you and what is not. One thing you are all agreeing on is processed food with all their associated chemicals, sugars and sugar derivitives are not good for you.
I would say consumption of eggs raises LDL cholesterol, but it's not by a huge amount (going from 0 to 1 egg per day increases your LDL cholesterol by about 7 mg/dL), so if you don't have an already high LDL (and you have to reach 100 mg/dL to be considered high/dangerous) there is no problem in taking 1 or even 2 eggs per day. It's not the consumption of eggs that increases the risk of heart disease, but a high level of LDL cholesterol, and you can have a safe level of LDL even if you eat eggs everyday. Source of the numbers: th-cam.com/video/GkWMDnTyxfo/w-d-xo.html
so much energy to atack eggs and what about sodas, cokes and donuts? i still miss the reasonable explanation why statins did not lower deaths caused by cardiovascular diseases since cholesterol is the certain bad guy
True: Dietary cholesterol is usually esterified cholesterol which modestly increases serum cholesterol (10% ~ 15% depends on the individual metabolism). But also true: High serum cholesterol levels *alone* have not been associated with increased risk in cardiovascular disease, quite the opposite.
Complete cherry picked b.s. Real eggs are a nutritional powerhouse that are satiating, versatile and Contain ALL of your essential amino acids. They also won't affect your blood sugar. Looking at this ahem doctor, not eating eggs makes you look older, weaker and unhealthy. I'll keep eating my dozen a week, thank you 🙂
When are we going to outlaw studies funded by food and pharmaceutical companies, unless ratified by an independent and disinterested body? Or at least exclude them from meta-analyses?
Not all studies funded by them are bad. You can see whether they are by the design of the study. In the case of meat, dairy and eggs, nearly all of them are designed to get predictable, favorable results to increase sales. Such as by using a perspective cohort methodology with subjects that have genetic variability in baseline cholesterol levels (e.g. some people will have an ldl level of 90, another of 70 and etc, with the same level of dietary cholesterol and saturated fat intake - taken over hundreds of thousands of people, this variability makes sure that you are not able to correlate increases in dietary cholesterol and saturated fat with CVD risk - because if thousands of people eat more cholesterol and saturated fat but have a lower ldl cholesterol level than thousands of people who eat less dietary cholesterol and saturated fat - what conclusion do you think will be attained by such a design? Obviously that dietary cholesterol and saturated fat have no relation to CVD, so therefore, eat your eggs, meat, and dairy!) If you are wondering how would one solve this issue, well, it was already mentioned. Which is taking baseline cholesterol levels into account. And then measuring the changes in that level for each person with increased/decreased intakes of dietary cholesterol and saturated fat and whether that increases/decreases CVD risk - and it does, both ways. You can literally find hundreds of trials (even mentioned in this video) proving this point. It's as certain of a conclusion as science gets, that it's practically a law, not a theory. Denying this is on the same level of a denial that smoking causes cancer (it's literally worse than flat earthism on a scientific level). Which is why all of these agencies warn people to eat a low saturated fat and "eat as little dietary cholesterol as possible" diet. Of course these agencies are also subject to these industries, so they are careful with their words. They almost never say "eat less eggs, dairy, meat", they use indirect language, and refer to biochemicals like "eat more vegetables, grains (and etc), and eat less saturated fat, cholesterol (and etc)".
We will outlaw this when our political system is no longer beholden to powerful lobbies. As far as excluding them, it's all about getting published and that's unlikely to change.
I watched one of your egg videos like 10 years ago. I became vegan soon after that (and watched many more videos). Now with this video I see that nothing has changed. The world is still in denial about eggs. Will have to check back in 10 more years I guess ;)
This is a legitimately controversial subject. Even at the highest levels of nutritional science it is disputed. There are PhDs in nutritional science who strongly disagree with the views presented in this video. Either side can choose the scientific studies that support their position. And they can choose to ignore the scientific studies that challenge or contradict their position. . Personally, I would rather see the best that science has to offer on both sides - not just one - and then decide for myself.
"...see the best science has to offer on both sides ..." Which both sides? Not even to a single topic there are "two sides". There are multiple claims (not only one). Multiple nuances but only one scientific correct statement given the evidence. People tend to think that studies are the end of the line of doing science. It's not. There are rational (statistical ways to bound the predictive power resp. generalisation errors) to go from all the data to a rational belief. It's tedious to do so, but that's the rational way to do it. For eggs the correct predictive statement regarding LDL seems to be that 1) Eggs raise LDL in the average person but the effect levels out quickly with commonly consumed amounts of dietary cholesterol. This (the leveling effect) explains the different views of scientific institutes on dietary cholesterol and the different results in the scientific literature (background diet resp. control diet is important). 2) There are explicitly known (and perhaps other unknown) genetic factors that makes people respond not at all to dietary cholesterol and other genetic factors that makes the response extremely strong. So it's a highly personal effect.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos You are very argumentative, and your points are not particularly accurate. And I don't want to waste my time with you, frankly.
@@viveviveka2651 I already gave a more detailed explanation why you're wrong (and specifically uneducated in bounds for generalisation errors - statistics). You gave me your opinion and no explanation. No evidence. Not very helpful for me or anyone else.
But what i heard from other studies is that dietary cholesterol was not linked to cholesterol levels. This is so frustrating. And when going plant based i do crave plant fats like nuts and seed butters and avocado or olive oil. Don't those have cholesterol too ? I need some fat in my diet.
It varies from person to person on how much is absorbed. But plants don’t contain any cholesterol in the form that animals do, zero. In fact, Phytosterols interfere with animal cholesterol as a potential net positive.
@@erastvandoren fat soluble vitamins need fat. Bioavailable Omega-3s are required for nerve and brain function. Omega-7s (in olive oil and macadamia nuts) are also anti-inflammatory and aid in absorbing nutrients. The liver needs adequate saturated fat to function properly; people get gallstones avoiding sat. fat because part of the gallbladder's function is to concentrate bile, and when receiving none never releases. We all need fat.
@@adamp9553 Max vitamin D absorption requires 10 grams of fat. More fat = less absorption. It is hard to eat less than 10 grams of fat. I know, I did 6 g/day for a week.
This has been debated for years and both sides have compelling arguments one thing to consider is SOME people genetically are predispositioned to generate cholesterol....SUGAR is the worst issue.
I always ask for extra cholesterol when eating out because my cardiologist said the concern about high cholesterol is misguided. The most important things are controlling your weight with a low carb high fat diet, not smoking and staying physically active.
A person can drive too fast and recklessly and not get into an accident, that was me when I was younger. I also ate a lot of fat most of my life of 73 years but last year I had bypass heart surgery. Going fat free is not easy but it’s worth it in more ways than one.
I have been reading Peter Attia's just published book "Outlive" and find it factual, with lots of new info, and really worth reading. However, he does buy into the notion that dietary cholesterol does not contribute to blood cholesterol ( and hence cardiovascular disease). Even without this recent paper cited by Dr. Greger, Attia should have known better.
The Ketogenic diet SPECIALLY emphasizes that free range EGGS are acceptable!! The B6 and B12 benefits are exceptional!! Its mindboggling how contradictory the information on this subject CONTINUES!!!!!
@@StanDupp6371 So what’s your point? Dr. Greger wouldn’t cite his work if he was a quack. As a matter of fact, Pritikin wasn’t a RD or cardiologist either, but it was his program that attracted Dr. Greger to this sort of work in the first place.
@@jasonarthur3640 Pritikin had no medical background, he had poor health his whole life and then took his own life at 69. His skill was being a slick businessman like Bernie Madoff and Jim Bakker. Would you get dental work done by a plumber?
@@StanDupp6371 Alright, you’ve got a right to your opinion. All I will say is that I don’t need a well-digger’s expert advice in order to know that jumping into a well is bad for my health. Over and out.
@@jasonarthur3640 No you are wrong, I never stated my opinion, I stated the facts and if they are wrong please tell me what the facts are and not your ideas or opinions.
Dr, I am a big fan, can you comment on this: "Effects of egg consumption on blood lipids: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled clinical trials" (2013): This meta-analysis published in the British Journal of Nutrition analyzed 17 randomized controlled trials and concluded that consuming up to seven eggs per week did not significantly impact blood lipid levels or increase the risk of cardiovascular disease in healthy individuals.
I watched this video and TH-cam immediately flooded me with all the keto doctor influencers showing how "HIGH CHOLESTEROL ISN'T BAD". This algorithm, I swear...
The reason they're testing your fasting cholesterol is because that would show excess cholesterol period the cholesterol that you're absorbing and using to rebuild your veins and arteries and brain and so on are not excessive cholesterol buried
Dr. Greger gave testimony to the Dietary Guidelines Committee for these new recommendations. Watch it here: nutritionfacts.org/video/highlights-from-the-2020-dietary-guidelines-hearing/
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Nitrites cause cancer?
This channels aim is to promote ONLY the vegan diet.
This video is not a typical release by Dr. Greger, as he usually tries to hide his vegan agenda behind a carefully crafted image of a neutral presenter.
This makes him IMV very dishonest.
Vegan of course can be a healthy diet to follow, but what Dr. Greger won't tell you is it is not the only healthy human diet.
So get some balance, view other channels, Dr Greger has an agenda.
@@yasuo65no animal eats eggs from other species, why do we?, if we eat something that we shouldn't eat then it will be harmful for us
@@yasuo65
The first thing I do with any diet claims is look at the person who is making them.
So far today I've watched:
- a muscular, toned, literally bouncing and glowing with health man explaining the science behind Keto on another video
- heard this guy Dr Gregor's voiceover, had to Google his picture to see that :
his arms and legs are spindly compared to his out of shape body
he looks very Low-Testosterone
and seems basically malnourished.
Hmmm.....
Thanks. That was helpful. As I try to educate myself and improve my eating habits, I've been running into a lot of conflicting information on dietary cholesterol. Now I know why.
WOW!!! This really makes this particular health information clear!!!
I was so confused about it...
Thank you so so much good doctor!!! You are saving countless live with your work.
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Your work is so valuable! Thank you so much, Dr. Greger! Your book saved my mothers life. She and my father follow a whole food plant based diet since 4 years and they both feel so good. They are now age 79 and 85.
Thank you for this clarification Dr Greger. You are one of the few doctors (even of the plant based ones) that I instinctively trust.
trust is for friends and family, confidence in the others is based on their track records
Paraphrased quote I heard from nutritionmadesimple
that is precisely why I don't trust him much. Out of inconclusive scientific publications he manages to arrive at very consistent conclusions where everyone else can't. Until I have a deeper understanding of what's going on here, I'll just assume he's just very good at concealing his cherry-picking.
@@requemao watch nutritionmadesimple simple
@@ejRecording Thanks, I watched their video on this topic. It was long and rather technical, but it gave me the insight I needed to understand precisely why I shouldn't take these studies at face value.
@Majestic Artimus That one too, but the video I watched first was one where an expert in the metabolism of fats explains how and why each person's response to dietary cholesterol is different, which explains the results mentioned in this video by Michael Greger and also explains why only a handful of people really should do as Greger says and avoid cholesterol as much as possible, while most people don't really absorb much dietary cholesterol. The title was "the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol & individual variability"
I was listening to some other doctors and doing high fat animal products. Im going back vegan. I was effortlessly a size 4 when i was plant based.
You and me both, kid. I went down the carnivore/keto rabbit hole and am now returning to a Mediterranean way of eating.
After watching this video, I will certainly be cutting out cholesterol as much as I can.
Wish Dr. Grundy would take note here and stop reccomending eggs.
Grundy is a quack
The thing you don't understand is that if he starts advising people against it, he will end up with fewer patients in his hospital room. I think it makes sense 🤑 that he would recommend people eat more eggs and coconut milk, considering that he is a cardiothoracic surgeon.
💕 Love this doctor's approach to wellness...💕
I looked at the first study. I only says that more than 1 egg per day "may" increase lood lipid markers. LDL does increase but so does HDL. And the LDL/HDL ratio doesn't change. It also mentioned that one egg per day isn't going to bring any health issue.
Some of these studies cited in this video also from more than 10 years ago.
@@ValaineDeathWhizkersz so only the quality of the study matters
eggs are literally a superfood. this guy is a scam artist. he also looks extremely unhealthy.
High cholesterol is not bad for everyone. Plus these studies don't include info like carb intake and inflammation.
I don't buy it.
My grandfather is turning 100 this year. He lived in Greece eating eggs every day on a Mediterranean diet all his life
That’s an anecdote. A well designed study only measures one thing at a time. Some people do have the genetics to not increase their risk by eating large amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol indeed.
If you want a great overall explanation of cholesterol “nutrition made simple” did a debunk video of the bald doctor recently where he spread misinformation about cholesterol like crazy
This is very unscientific. Plus, there is some people who do really live longer by doing bad habits like drinking smoking and eating high fats but they were rare. What we should be looking is a habit that is beneficial and compatible for the average people and not some few.
My grandfather lived to 90. He smoked, ate junk, never exercised, didn’t wear a seatbelt, so go ahead and do what you like….
Whole lotta bots in these comments, my man. Need to be a little more subtle than that.
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This eggsplanation does my heart and mind good. Vegan for the win.
You're right, it's eggsponential!
Why do so many people, including doctors say we need animal fat / cholesterol / collagen ? our cells are surrounded by fat. Our adrenal glands need lots of animal fat, it's confusing. And Dr Terry Wahls developed serious MS with plants, she healed on animal-based diet !
I've never heard that before- adrenal glands specifically need animal fat?
Bullshit
Excellent! And soon 1 million subscribers will see these videos! Amazing work!!
Facts matter. The truth matters.
Thank you Dr,Greg. My LDL was always below 110. I have been eating an egg every day and now my LDL raised to 167. I will stop egg right away
It's so confusing and I don't know what to believe. I just read from Harvard Health that dietary cholesterol has only modest effects to blood cholesterol unless you happen to be a "responder" type. I have always thought Harvard Health would be a credible source. How should we know what to believe?
I think I found that article. I did not dive into it far enough to find the source for the 300mg cap. The rest of it reads like a grocery checkout magazine. As a scientist I am skeptical of any statements using words without a precise definition. 'Modest' is in the eye of the beholder and if they are referring to the recent studies DESIGNED to show only a modest increase, well, there you are. Plus saying the current guidelines 'suggest caution', again, that's a glossing over of 'as little as possible'.
If you listen to Dr. Greger and his like-minded colleagues you'll see how medical schools teach diagnosis and prescribing medications and procedures, not how to promote optimal health by any means, including diet and lifestyle. Harvard Health is a product of that mindset.
I would loosely quote Dr. G. to suggest that in the absence of any other information, a WFPB diet should be the default as it has been demonstrated to be the least harmful. Basing your health on someone else's definition of modest only hurts you if that modest rise brings about a cardiac event. He gives us access to the studies so we can read them and make our own evaluations and act accordingly.
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Always look for meta analysis and umbrella analysis, that's the highest standard of scientific information
That blog article published in Harvard Health is written by a single author (an editorial), and is either lying or poorly researched, e.g. "In fact, the 2015-2020 Dietary Guidelines for Americans eliminated an earlier recommendation to limit dietary cholesterol to 300 milligrams (mg) per day-although they still suggest caution on overall intake."
This is not what happened. They changed it to "eat as little dietary cholesterol as possible", they did not remove the limit.
The purpose of this article is clearly to cast doubt on established science so that consumption of those foods would be upkept, e.g. "the most important factor isn't how much cholesterol-rich food you eat. Rather, it's what else you eat". It's a sales pitch.
@@sarasalgadox3 Unless the meta analysis deliberately excludes studies which contradict the desired conclusion, as in this case.
I eat almost a dozen eggs a week, as we have chickens. That's our main source of protein. The rest of our diet is primarily vegetarian. We have a small farm. Yet my latest bloodwork shows my LDL, HDL, total cholesterol and triglyceride numbers to be well within normal limits. So is my blood pressure. My doctor does not understand this, as it's supposedly 'not possible'. The number don't lie, though. My wife and I are slender and fit, get plenty of vigorous exercise, rarely drink alcohol, never smoked, never eat in restaurants, never eat take-out or convenience foods, and use only olive and avocado oils (never refined seed oils). Although we are in our sixties and seventies we take no pharmaceutical drugs and have no underlying health issues. Our secret? We never fell for the idea that abandoning butter and eggs and loading up on refined carbohydrates was a good idea. Look around: see what following the official 'science-based' dietary guidelines for half a century has done to western society? We are surrounded by millions of overweight and obese citizens with one foot in the grave.
Lol, people have not been following the guidelines. People are stuffing themselves with cheese and meat. Your own bloodwork is an anecdote, we need to look at big (non industry funded) studies.
So true
Agree! And I'm sure that your both staying very active and avoiding processed foods and meat are huge contributors to your good health.
My guess would be the fact that your only "sin" is consuming eggs, everything else in your lifestyle seems healthy, which means you are, overall, following a healthier lifestyle than probably 95% of the population. The question is: would you be even healthier if you didn't consume eggs?
Agreed, I eat a dozen eggs a day and I'm 55. Just had an MRI. The doctor said no sign of heart disease.
I thought, via nutritionist at Boston Heart labs, saturated fats are ok, not harmful, as long as grass fed, organic, etc, and as long as you refrain from consuming sugar and highly processed foods. Sugar acts as irritant inside veins, causing inflammation. Cholesterol then acts as a bandaid to try and heal the area. Hence, plaque formation. So is cholesterol and saturated fat ok as long as sugar and HPF’s are avoided? Thank you!
Yes
And does that mean 100% abstinence from sugar, including fruit, flax or spelt bread(with no oil included- just flour and salt and water)?
Countless of studies concluded that Saturated Fats of any kinds either from Grass fed or Non-Grass fed are equally dangerous. It's not about where you source your saturated fats, it's the saturated fats itself.
Processed foods aren't bad, fruit smoothies are processed foods, dried fruits are processed also, and anything that undergo extra steps even just blending, mashing, and freezing even without any addrd ingredients are processed. What we should avoid is the ultra-processed foods, thats what the snacks and junk food we see in the groceries are.
In sugar, what we should avoid is added sugar like table sugar, honey, molasses, maple syrup, corn syrup and etc. You shouldn't avoid fruits just because there's natural sugar on it, fruits are important, as long as you eat it a long with its fiber and never juice it.
@@user-zu7gk9ol9fno, you don't need to avoid flax and spelt and it's even a big mistake to avoid fruits. Sugar from fruits is only bad when you juice it and never eat the fiber. Fiber will going to regulate the sugar from fruits. Plus, if you are going to avoid fruits, you would loss a lots of essential nutritients and may weaken your immune system.
Thanks for the heads up doc ❤
Very intesting. But why do you not show a lot of studies that prove the opposite with no associations?
sponsored studies.
@@Ceisriel Not all 😊
@@Ceisriel And the one he shows are not sponsored or what? Almost all studies are sponsored. Don't you find it weird that he excludes so many studies that don't fit his narrative of plant based food?
@@Junker_1 you are right, go eat your 16 eggs breakfast and 7 steaks, big broccoli wants to keep you small. go and grow your muscles so big that you'll finally be able to touch the sky and prove to everyone that the earth is flat and birds are robots. but on a serious note even studies sponsored by the egg industry show increases in cholesterol and bad stuff, it's just that they are interpreted differently.... like I can make a study that shows that throwing a boulder in your head is bad for you, but I can say that it's good for the environment because theres less meatheads around. Honestly don't discuss with me if you want to gamble your health go ahead i don't care wether you survive or not.
I will ask you again if cholestetol is the cause of disease then why does it not damage veins snd tiny capilaries?
This is just golden. You make the case those of us who are rational omnivores have been making when you look at cause and effect. Of course cholesterol goes up and down and it stays flat most of the time because it is a lipid. Triglycerides also go up and down as well as glucose after meals. Could it be because cholesterol is suppose to go up a down, the liver knows what it is doing and cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease and stroke.
Could it actually be habitually high blood glucose caused by habitually pure fuel sugar and oil from processed grain/seed over whelming the liver causing liver dysfunction, leading to fatty liver, leading to diabetes and the habitually high blood glucose damaging the primary arteries leaving the heart and feeding blood to everything. Then cholestetol comes and tries to fix the damage the sugar caused. Which then makes cholesterol a vector moot and the fact our body produces it without eating and keeps it largely flat should tell someone with advanced education that the body/liver probably knows what its doing unless you feed it pure fuel that our digestive tract wasnt designed for 🤪
Animal based foods including eggs have been shown to help cause inflammation which the body then tries to heal itself from with cholesterol.
No, but you can ask a top lipidologist like Dr. Dayspring.
@@chiyerano happy horseshite, its habitually high blood sugar that damages the arteries that the cholesterol then habitually tries to fix until it creates a blockage. Ask a disbetic why they have a shorter life expectancy and far high odds of heart attack and strokes. Vegans statistically have heart attacks and strokes just like everyone else because humans are habitually eating high glycemic fuel for a body that primarily burns fat for fuel. Body only can store 2000 calories of glucose/glycogen in muscles and liver total then the liver converts excess glucose into triglycerides/fat for fuel and storage.
Thanks for this video. It clearly lays out the distinct impact of chloesterol. It also gives a nice high level view of political side of things regarding chloesterol. I appreciate this type of analysis greatly.
I have one question though. How much does the cholesterol from 1 egg (or an any small amount) increase LDL or vein calcification? Yes, there is an impact, yes it is statistically significant but if this impact is very limited, then we still dont have to demonize it and people among us shouldnt feel too bad when they eat once in a while.
I believe the next level Dr Greger can go is sizing the detrimental impact of these list factors such as smoking vs eating one egg per day or eating processed food with added sugar, not exercising etc.
Thank you Dr. Greger for your commitment to the truth!
I’m sure this video required a lot of work, in both time reading the studies and the fantastic visuals produced in this video, to make things clear for us to follow.
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Can you do another video on DART 2? Apparently there was an funding issue and now it is disregarded as evidence contradicting DART. Our dietary guidelines are based on DART 1 with mentioning DART 2 as no evidence.
Does the effect of eggs on blood cholesterol levels change if they are consumed through baking such as cookies, cakes, and brownies, as opposed to consumed through frying like scrambled eggs?
Interesting question, but as a rule of thumb, it’s always safe to say that if a baked good’s ingredients are unhealthy then the end result is also unhealthy. You have to remember that besides eggs, pastries also tend to have in things like white flour, sugar, and butter. If bakers can find healthier substitutes for these types of ingredients then the resulting pastries will be healthier too.
No. Cholesterol is a very stable substance.
If anything, baking makes things only worse for your health.
Is this really true? There are dozens of studies, that dietary cholesterol only plays a very minor role on blood cholesterol. Im honestly confused what to believe now!
Try to take a look at the actual studies and not what the influencers say about them. Observational studies are useful for finding correlations, but not for making cause-effect conclusions. (People who have cholesterol problems are likely to eat fewer eggs as a response to the problem.) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3875930/ This is an interesting paper that claims that dietary cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol. University students were assigned to two groups, one ate two eggs a day for breakfast in the cafeteria, the other did not. Both groups could eat pancakes, waffles, bacon, sausages, butter on their toast, red-eye gravy on their biscuits, whole milk in their cereal, etc. (Of course, pancakes and waffles contain eggs.) So it is no surprise that the study showed no difference in serum cholesterol between the two groups. Try TH-cam "Nutrition made simple"
Yea it’s mostly biased bullshit
I changed my diet to be almost completely plant based and healthy about two months ago, and I now get a very minimal amount of cholesterol in my diet. I'm doing great, and my bloodwork results showed improvements on pretty much every metric. I've also lost about 5 kg (11 pounds) of weight - almost all of fat from my midsection; I can clearly see the difference in the mirror. I also feel really good! This diet agrees with me. 😎
That really is SUCH an insidious trick... thank you so much for sharing this
Doc - you rock! To paraphrase you, "Evidence based nutrition - what a concept!" 💚
Thank you for this amazing video and information!!!
I'd be curious to see a study from Japan. They tend to live longer than North Americans and yet they eat large amounts of eggs. Is it possible some east Asian vegetables lower the serum cholesterol. Or does the high fish and low saturated fat diet play a part? Or is there just a lower level of LDL in most east Asian DNA?
Asian vegetables definitely especially since they have fiber which feeds good bacteria that according to some doctors like Dr. Dayspring helps to improve things like apoB lipid profile which is an important marker for cardiovascular health.
Adding an egg to a dish was always considered a luxury of sorts and never common practice. Today, you have to wonder if their climb in heart disease has anything to do with their increase in consumption of dietary cholesterol.
Maybe the amount they eat
I think heavy eggs consumption in Japan and Korea is a rather recent trend.
the japanese also walk a lot. but they also drink and smoke heaps too. very interesting
What are people eating with those eggs? Bread? Muffins? Bagels? Maybe eating carbs with eggs is the problem.
Carbs are not the problem. That's what the egg industry wants us to believe.
@@Spock_Rogers Then why does avoiding carbs work for weight loss?
The depth of research and subsequent analysis is mind-bending. Thank you.
One common argument I hear about eggs consumption is related to "happy chickens" eggs being different from factory-farm eggs. Is there any evidence on that?
No. There are same amounts of cholesterol and BCAA etc. Finnish 🇫🇮 authorities published a warning, when it was discovered that there was toxic PFOS compaunds in organicly produced eggs. Why? Even "organic" chickens are fed with fish, which contain environmental toxins.
BTW, half of egg laying chickens have sternal fractures according to recently published study. And free range is kinda scam. Please watch Earthling Ed's TH-cam vid about free range and organic animal production. Or/and watch Dominion on TH-cam 🐣 Thank you for considering.
I have been eating a dozen eggs a day all my life and I'm 55 years old. I recently had a cardiac MRI with contrast and the doctor said, NO SIGN of heart disease. I also love my milk. I drink 2 litres a day.
Your milk? Did it come from your own breasts? Oh wait you're a male.... And you're... Not a baby cow? Weird
This anti-egg nonsense is nearly comical.
😂 A dozen eggs a day??? I don't believe you!
Thank you Doctor! 🙏
Trying to determine ground truth is so difficult these days
I can’t tell you the number of times people have asked me “Where do you get your protein?” or people say “You need to eat some cholesterol!”
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many people fall for the pro-meat propaganda. But I think that they prefer being misinformed.
This reminds me of Emma Morano, an Italian who lived to age 114, ate two eggs a day for pretty much her whole life. I'm not saying you should eat dozens of eggs. But as always, quality over quantity. Especially, as we grow older. Eggs are a very easy and good source of protein and choline for brain and muscle health. Personally, I never worried about dietry cholesterol much. There are far more important things to worry about health wise.
I have a list of over 30 people over age 100 who ate eggs every day but none were overweight or ate any junk food, just mostly all single ingredient home cooked foods. If you want the list just ask.
@@beepbeepnj2658 give us the list
Indeed, you are what you eat.
You callin' me a PLANT?
OK, I'm good with that.
I don't know what to believe anymore! Just wait a couple months, and a new study will de-bunk this one, then another will de-bunk that....
Someone please explain why everyone including most Google searches say dietary cholesterol has no impact ??? Been vegan for a long time and my cholesterol is extremely low so anecdotally I can see it works. I’m just confused why most experts agree dietary cholesterol has no impact
Here is the American Heart Association's ideas about dietary cholesterol:
"Previously, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake be limited to no more than 300 milligrams per day. The 2015 DGAC [Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee] will not bring forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol, consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC report. Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption."
WOW!!!
Love the high quality information! 🙏🏼
It is very interesting information! Thank you very much!!!
I would love to hear Dr Gregor's thoughts on donating plasma regularly, both as someone on a plant based diet and those on a SAD diet.
I imagine this would artificially remove cholesterol from the blood, but to what extent?
Although Dr Greger has addressed the subject very well, there is an entire industry on TH-cam with the generic assertion “eggs and/or cholesterol are actually good for you.” I would love it if he addressed directly some of the leading advocates of this dangerous idea.
At the same time quality eggs have high content of the for heart and artery vessel so beneficial vitamin K2! So obviously a combination of positive and negative aspects for same target organs... what could be the summed up result of that?
What about TMAO? Is it the cholesterol or the choline from eggs (TMAO) that raise CHD? Or both
Its so hard to get a definitive answer on this subject. The video that led me to this video says the opposite. 23 studies consisting of over 123k people came to the conclusion that eggs not only never caused heart disease but actually helped your heart.
Then where are these studies?
@@greenleafyman1028 Go watch the video.
I eat eggs daily. Up to 8. No cholesterol issues whatsoever. Not to mention that the belief that high cholesterol equates to a high risk of heart disease is highly debatable.
Is this necessary cholesterol or is it oxidase cholesterol,
Stoic quote
Density is 99% work and 1% luck
Thank you so much!
If not eating eggs helps me look as healthy and fit as Dr Greger, then I will continue to eat eggs.
Yep - notice that Dr Gregor hides behind a voiceover as he is a spindly low-T soy milk drinking weedy excuse for a man.
Is this majority lifestyle conditions. Or future studies haven't proved that.
But Im sure it’s fine to consume seed oils and refined grains right?
Does he say that?
Here we go again with the seed oil conspiracy theories from the medi influencers. I was a believer and a lemming at one point, too. 😱
While it may be true the egg industry funded studies to show egg consumption doesn't raise cholesterol levels, wouldn't it be fair to see the funding behind the studies you cited in your video?
Genetics play a crucial role in determining how concerned a person should be about dietary cholesterol. Dr. Gil Carvalho (MD, PhD) has a good recent video covering this.
A significant percentage of the population does not have to worry about it at all. So why worry them? Another significant percentage should be more careful. And others are in-between. - All depending on their genes.
Well, genetics can be affected by environmental factors as well.
@@chiyerano Epigenetics but genetics not really on that level.
In the first part of the comment they talked about genes that code for protein responsible to pull cholesterol from the gut into the cells and from the cells into the circulatory system. If they are broken (good because you don't respond to dietary cholesterol) the environment will not give you the ability back to produce these proteins.
On the other hand if you have high expression of that gene (bad because you respond to dietary cholesterol strongly) that could be potentially influenced by the environment.
I have not seen evidence in either direction on the last. Could be the case or not.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos Have you ever read and heard of the effects of 'forever' chemicals not to mention radiation and nuclear waste in the environment on the body? I would say that environmental factors do indeed affect genetics on some levels, not just epigenetics. To be more specific, I was referring more to ApoB lipid profiles which some doctors like Dr. Dayspring have mentioned can be improved with the presence of lactobacilli or good bacteria in the gut.
@@chiyerano The gut microbiome absolutely has influence on the blood lipids. But that is a different topic. That's not genetics nor epigenetics.
Chemicals, radiation, ... can change individual genes in an individual cell.
But the change is not directed and the likelihood that a specific change that makes a broken gene expressible again is done in enough "gut cells" to matter is for all practical purposes zero.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos How apoB levels respond individually is indeed partly due to an individual's genetics. Just ask Dr. Dayspring among others who have studied these matters, they can tell you.
I just bought a dozen eggs. And paid extra for pastured ones. Sigh. I guess that was money wasted. I’m glad I saw this though. I’ll take losing $7 over losing my life.
Let them be your last dozen ever. I adopted a WFPB diet eight years ago, but I also will indulge in unhealthy foods on a limited basis (limited to occasions/holidays, AND limited in quantity-no pigging out). I used to have an endless supply of farm-free-ranging hen eggs, and still could. Just not interested in regular consumption of deleterious dietary items any more. I have enough bad habits--LOVE PLANTS though. You'll do better without them, and with zero animal products consumed you'll likely feel less inflammation and aches and pains--at least I do, and when it first happened was only 4 days into my new life. At that point I quit taking ibuprofen regularly just to feel "ok".
Society and family can make eating healthy a bit of a challenge. Stay the course enjoy the benefits. Best of luck and success with your health.
eggs are good. carbs are bad. the body stores fat for a reason. it doesnt store sugar
@@abaddonmorningstar8871 Eggs are not safe or healthy according to the USDA and also according to dozens of doctors I trust because they practice evidence-based medicine and we THRIVE on carbs! CARBS are what fuels the BRAIN and also fuels our muscles. Protein is only a building block and excess protein can be harmful. Most folks eat way too much protein and avoid brain fuel.
@@wadepatton2433 How can an egg be bad? An egg has proper absorbable proteins, fats, vitamins and minerals the body needs including Vitamin A1, B12, K2, D, Choline, Iodine, C15:0 and Sphingolipids all 8 which destroy cancer cells and protect the heart. It does have a lot of cholesterol so 4 or 5 a week should be ok. A cigarette and soda has none of those 8 listed nutrients.
@@wadepatton2433 Your info didn't get posted on here maybe because too long but I got it elsewhere. You switched the subject to big business funding instead of answering the question about the nutrients I listed. Many foods do not have the word healthy on the label like romaine lettuce or raspberries, and many do like diet soda had a heart healthy sign and shortening had heart healthy before the FDA removed it because it had too much trans fats. Did the FDA remove eggs from the food supply? Also you contradicted yourself about why I compared egg to cigarettes yet you just did yourself with egg compared to cigarettes for promotion of cancer.
Two parts of ldl.
Little particles
Large particles
The more large particles the better. Get lipid panel to address your cholesterol and ease your mind.
The liver makes 85% of your cholesterol. Your brain is made of cholesterol.
What about the salt?
Thank you
I've started eating 12 eggs, 2 tbsp of ghee, chicken, sheep tallow daily. occationally some red meat and im feeling great...I'm able to fast Ramadan easily and gained some muscles
And did you check how your arteries and heart are coming along??!
How are your apoB levels?
@@ml3141 since he just started this horrible diet, there will be no damage yet. You can even smoke for decades before it seriously affects your health.
@@ml3141 I will check that and let you know so don't worry about cholesterol
@@CharlieFader i don't think so because along with that horrible diet as you describe it I also consume garlic, turmeric, ginger, oregano ,thyme olive oil, propolis,veggies, fruits. Millet, rice
So many counter narratives on what is good for you and what is not. One thing you are all agreeing on is processed food with all their associated chemicals, sugars and sugar derivitives are not good for you.
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I would say consumption of eggs raises LDL cholesterol, but it's not by a huge amount (going from 0 to 1 egg per day increases your LDL cholesterol by about 7 mg/dL), so if you don't have an already high LDL (and you have to reach 100 mg/dL to be considered high/dangerous) there is no problem in taking 1 or even 2 eggs per day.
It's not the consumption of eggs that increases the risk of heart disease, but a high level of LDL cholesterol, and you can have a safe level of LDL even if you eat eggs everyday.
Source of the numbers: th-cam.com/video/GkWMDnTyxfo/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Doc at least there is one place I go to where I know 99% of the information you provide is accurate
@u-dont-existdotcom4394 why is he wrong? What research you are basing your opening on?
so much energy to atack eggs and what about sodas, cokes and donuts? i still miss the reasonable explanation why statins did not lower deaths caused by cardiovascular diseases since cholesterol is the certain bad guy
True: Dietary cholesterol is usually esterified cholesterol which modestly increases serum cholesterol (10% ~ 15% depends on the individual metabolism).
But also true: High serum cholesterol levels *alone* have not been associated with increased risk in cardiovascular disease, quite the opposite.
Then why do doctors want to keep cholesterol low?
They are indeed related.
Complete cherry picked b.s. Real eggs are a nutritional powerhouse that are satiating, versatile and Contain ALL of your essential amino acids. They also won't affect your blood sugar. Looking at this ahem doctor, not eating eggs makes you look older, weaker and unhealthy. I'll keep eating my dozen a week, thank you 🙂
When are we going to outlaw studies funded by food and pharmaceutical companies, unless ratified by an independent and disinterested body? Or at least exclude them from meta-analyses?
Not all studies funded by them are bad. You can see whether they are by the design of the study.
In the case of meat, dairy and eggs, nearly all of them are designed to get predictable, favorable results to increase sales. Such as by using a perspective cohort methodology with subjects that have genetic variability in baseline cholesterol levels (e.g. some people will have an ldl level of 90, another of 70 and etc, with the same level of dietary cholesterol and saturated fat intake - taken over hundreds of thousands of people, this variability makes sure that you are not able to correlate increases in dietary cholesterol and saturated fat with CVD risk - because if thousands of people eat more cholesterol and saturated fat but have a lower ldl cholesterol level than thousands of people who eat less dietary cholesterol and saturated fat - what conclusion do you think will be attained by such a design? Obviously that dietary cholesterol and saturated fat have no relation to CVD, so therefore, eat your eggs, meat, and dairy!)
If you are wondering how would one solve this issue, well, it was already mentioned. Which is taking baseline cholesterol levels into account. And then measuring the changes in that level for each person with increased/decreased intakes of dietary cholesterol and saturated fat and whether that increases/decreases CVD risk - and it does, both ways. You can literally find hundreds of trials (even mentioned in this video) proving this point. It's as certain of a conclusion as science gets, that it's practically a law, not a theory. Denying this is on the same level of a denial that smoking causes cancer (it's literally worse than flat earthism on a scientific level). Which is why all of these agencies warn people to eat a low saturated fat and "eat as little dietary cholesterol as possible" diet. Of course these agencies are also subject to these industries, so they are careful with their words. They almost never say "eat less eggs, dairy, meat", they use indirect language, and refer to biochemicals like "eat more vegetables, grains (and etc), and eat less saturated fat, cholesterol (and etc)".
We will outlaw this when our political system is no longer beholden to powerful lobbies. As far as excluding them, it's all about getting published and that's unlikely to change.
eating none :)
Bruh, what about the high quality protein found in animal products specially fish?
Thanks for the information, interesting
What about egg whites? Is it OK to eat?
It has less cholesterol but still has a cholesterol
I watched one of your egg videos like 10 years ago. I became vegan soon after that (and watched many more videos). Now with this video I see that nothing has changed. The world is still in denial about eggs. Will have to check back in 10 more years I guess ;)
This is a legitimately controversial subject. Even at the highest levels of nutritional science it is disputed. There are PhDs in nutritional science who strongly disagree with the views presented in this video.
Either side can choose the scientific studies that support their position. And they can choose to ignore the scientific studies that challenge or contradict their position.
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Personally, I would rather see the best that science has to offer on both sides - not just one - and then decide for myself.
"...see the best science has to offer on both sides ..."
Which both sides? Not even to a single topic there are "two sides". There are multiple claims (not only one). Multiple nuances but only one scientific correct statement given the evidence.
People tend to think that studies are the end of the line of doing science. It's not.
There are rational (statistical ways to bound the predictive power resp. generalisation errors) to go from all the data to a rational belief.
It's tedious to do so, but that's the rational way to do it.
For eggs the correct predictive statement regarding LDL seems to be that
1) Eggs raise LDL in the average person but the effect levels out quickly with commonly consumed amounts of dietary cholesterol. This (the leveling effect) explains the different views of scientific institutes on dietary cholesterol and the different results in the scientific literature (background diet resp. control diet is important).
2) There are explicitly known (and perhaps other unknown) genetic factors that makes people respond not at all to dietary cholesterol and other genetic factors that makes the response extremely strong. So it's a highly personal effect.
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaosNo, not really.
@@viveviveka2651 I made multiple statements. Which statement do you disagree with and based on what evidence?
@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos You are very argumentative, and your points are not particularly accurate. And I don't want to waste my time with you, frankly.
@@viveviveka2651 I already gave a more detailed explanation why you're wrong (and specifically uneducated in bounds for generalisation errors - statistics).
You gave me your opinion and no explanation. No evidence. Not very helpful for me or anyone else.
So what is he saying, to eat more carbs?
Yeah and get a big, bloated belly just like him 😂
Eat fruits, vegetables, beans, whole grains, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices.
Eat whole food.
Not decaying flesh or chicken ovulation.
But what i heard from other studies is that dietary cholesterol was not linked to cholesterol levels. This is so frustrating.
And when going plant based i do crave plant fats like nuts and seed butters and avocado or olive oil. Don't those have cholesterol too ? I need some fat in my diet.
It varies from person to person on how much is absorbed.
But plants don’t contain any cholesterol in the form that animals do, zero. In fact, Phytosterols interfere with animal cholesterol as a potential net positive.
Of course, it does. An egg a day raises LDL by 10 points on average, if I recall correctly. And no, you don't need fat.
@@erastvandoren fat soluble vitamins need fat.
Bioavailable Omega-3s are required for nerve and brain function. Omega-7s (in olive oil and macadamia nuts) are also anti-inflammatory and aid in absorbing nutrients.
The liver needs adequate saturated fat to function properly; people get gallstones avoiding sat. fat because part of the gallbladder's function is to concentrate bile, and when receiving none never releases.
We all need fat.
@@adamp9553 Max vitamin D absorption requires 10 grams of fat. More fat = less absorption. It is hard to eat less than 10 grams of fat. I know, I did 6 g/day for a week.
@@erastvandoren you do need fat in the diet. get an education. Humans did keto for millions of years before grain was introduced.
Well Happy Easter! The Easter Bunny does not like this presentation. 😂
The Easter bunny doesn't care, he's laying chocolate eggs these days. 🙃
This has been debated for years and both sides have compelling arguments one thing to consider is SOME people genetically are predispositioned to generate cholesterol....SUGAR is the worst issue.
I always ask for extra cholesterol when eating out because my cardiologist said the concern about high cholesterol is misguided. The most important things are controlling your weight with a low carb high fat diet, not smoking and staying physically active.
ah yes, the low carb high fat diet that we evolved on... :)
I love a little boiled egg with soldiers(i.e. buttered toast cut into strips) laid by my backyard chickens!
A person can drive too fast and recklessly and not get into an accident, that was me when I was younger. I also ate a lot of fat most of my life of 73 years but last year I had bypass heart surgery. Going fat free is not easy but it’s worth it in more ways than one.
Please talk about Thalassemia
Ooo its lovely - have you been there? It's my favourite of all the Greek islands
What about egg whites? 🤔
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Brilliant and succinct, in a nutshell.
Sometimes the truth is hard to crack, especially amongst so much distraction.
Really 😮
I have been reading Peter Attia's just published book "Outlive" and find it factual, with lots of new info, and really worth reading. However, he does buy into the notion that dietary cholesterol does not contribute to blood cholesterol ( and hence cardiovascular disease). Even without this recent paper cited by Dr. Greger, Attia should have known better.
I couldn't find anything useful in his book. Mostly rantings how the science is done wrong. 🤣
The Ketogenic diet SPECIALLY emphasizes that free range EGGS are acceptable!! The B6 and B12 benefits are exceptional!! Its mindboggling how contradictory the information on this subject CONTINUES!!!!!
A timely reminder of why Dr. Ornish’s reversal diet only allows folks to eat egg whites.
Ornish is not a RD or cardiologist and his young wife has a disease now.
@@StanDupp6371 So what’s your point? Dr. Greger wouldn’t cite his work if he was a quack. As a matter of fact, Pritikin wasn’t a RD or cardiologist either, but it was his program that attracted Dr. Greger to this sort of work in the first place.
@@jasonarthur3640 Pritikin had no medical background, he had poor health his whole life and then took his own life at 69. His skill was being a slick businessman like Bernie Madoff and Jim Bakker. Would you get dental work done by a plumber?
@@StanDupp6371 Alright, you’ve got a right to your opinion. All I will say is that I don’t need a well-digger’s expert advice in order to know that jumping into a well is bad for my health. Over and out.
@@jasonarthur3640 No you are wrong, I never stated my opinion, I stated the facts and if they are wrong please tell me what the facts are and not your ideas or opinions.
6:09 - Why isn't added sugars as low as possible?
Sugar is not harmful in reasonable amounts. There were studies, where patients ate sugar and cured diabetes.
Dr, I am a big fan, can you comment on this: "Effects of egg consumption on blood lipids: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled clinical trials" (2013): This meta-analysis published in the British Journal of Nutrition analyzed 17 randomized controlled trials and concluded that consuming up to seven eggs per week did not significantly impact blood lipid levels or increase the risk of cardiovascular disease in healthy individuals.
Talk to Andrew Huberman please.
Huberman makes a lot of unfounded statements.
Wow. This is 1985 science.
I watched this video and TH-cam immediately flooded me with all the keto doctor influencers showing how "HIGH CHOLESTEROL ISN'T BAD".
This algorithm, I swear...
The reason they're testing your fasting cholesterol is because that would show excess cholesterol period the cholesterol that you're absorbing and using to rebuild your veins and arteries and brain and so on are not excessive cholesterol buried
this guy is a scam artist of the first order.
You're funny 😅
Can you still get high cholesterol/ldl on a vegan diet?
I can tell you that over my veg life my doctors have consistently told me they've never seen such a low cholesterol in their lives 😂
@@truenokill wfpb I understand and agree. I’m particularly interested in just vegan which includes processed oils. Vegetable oils but still oil.
@@1101naomi virgin olive oil is perfectly fine. It is one of the few foods that decrease meal induced inflamation.
If you consume exotic oils (coconut and palm), yes.
@naomi L my LDL did shoot up from eating junk vegan food. Got that under control now.