@@dn7949 I mean, the way the game reveals that shit *does* hurt, because you pity Harrier for being so hopelessly in love with the shadow of a woman he knew six years ago, but this DIRECTLY hurts way more. Calling your partner a slur, in the NOW? It’s not empathy for the protagonist, it’s for *your* partner. The one you can rely on the entire game. Far more painful than any memory Harrier has of a long ago termination, the reveal of which he turns into his former love tearing into him for being poor and helpless.
I realized that I would feel worse about saying this slur to Kim than about letting Kim get shit (but obviously both are horrible). Which is a strange thing to think, one could've killed him, the other hurts him only emotionally.... and yet...
there are so many parts of Disco Elysium I will never see. I never want to go through this. I never want to read this conversation. I never want to be in this situation. In a game where choices matter, usually it's fun to see where all of the choices lead, but not here. not this game. Some choices go places that hurt my own spirit so much, that I would never feel comfortable playing a game like that.
For me that's the one of the strongest points the game makes, such is life, most of the time you don't know what choices will lead you to hurting situations, and even if you do, sometimes you don't have any other option, sometimes we fuck up good, hell sometimes we don't even get that we fucked up in the moment or we are unable to accept it, disco elysium for me is about failing, and hurting, but must importantly, it is about surviving, living with the consequences of you actions, learning what you can and standing up in the face of literal monsters. The pale, the love of your life leaving you, even the case itself are all adversities outside of our understanding and it can feel like there's no hope, there's nothing you can do to stop these monsters from eating you piece by piece, except there is, you solve the case didn't you? Maybe if you push on you'll be able to defeat more of the monsters, and that ressonated with me a lot, but that's just my interpretation
Apparently if you say you see him as “a true *Vacholiere*”, he’ll really appreciate it as “no one has ever said that to (him) before.” So just in case you fail the dance check, you can still make it something really touching.
I failed this check randomly, my authority stat was really high - and I was horrified by needing to call Kim a monkey fucker, so I reloaded and replayed HALF AN HOUR and then save-scummed until I won the dance check. Goddamn, sir, I can fail a lotta things but Kim deserves every ounce of my love and respect, and I will not have it otherwise
Oh noooo. Jeez, failing that authority dice roll has one of the most punishing consequences I've seen in the game. It feels so terrible when you *have* to say terrible shit because you failed a skill check, but that also makes this experience very real.
@@NotBamOrBing the game has a 50/50 rewards on good and bad choice. Even the game warns us that being too good in something will be detrimental to Harry.
This scene was fucking fantastic. I literally covered my mouth in he real world when I realized what I made Tequila Sunset say. I got caught up in making Kim dance, so used to finger guns working I didn't even realize I called him a 'yellow monkey fucker.' My regret going into the apology was genuine
It’s not an alternate timeline. It’s the consequences of your own actions. And based on the way the rest of 41 treats Harry, my guess is that he’s done something similar with all of them.
I think it's good writing that if you fail the check, there's no way to back out of calling Kim the slur. Even if you've been making all the "right" choices with Harry and playing him as someone trying to get better, the fact that he has the capacity to blurt out a slur without thinking says a lot about who he was before losing his memory (and still has the potential to be)
What? The man is capable of saying and doing all sorts of insane things in this game if you fail checks. Just look at the failed authority check with Titus (no matter what, you can't fully back out of doing something dumb in front of him). Trying to judge his past character based off of these checks is dumb.
@@gianni50725or maybe what op outlined just happens so much more than just calling Kim a slur. The “who harry was before the amnesia and has the potential to be” thing.
@giannih5072 The failed check with Titus is more proof that checks reveal who he used to be. He can threaten suicide to get what he wants just like he did when he first showed up to the Whirling n Rags
i got kim to dance and failed a 98% check right after that and harry screamed something like ''finally you monkey fucker'' I panicked and immediately alt+F4'd out of the game lmao
@@Jango172 making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing. I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal. What else should be in the comp?
I only wish the devs let Harry get punched out if you push it too far. Kim folds you flat, you wake up, he's gone, he reappears the next day, refuses to even speak about what happened.
That's the thing, isn't it? For one, it shows Kim's strength and fortitude to not do that - but for another, Kim knows that in their society he can't get away with something like that the way Harry can because of what he looks like. He's built up that massive restraint and force-of-will to make it so people *have* to take him seriously (it's telling that the Brow-Off shows that Kim's Authority is absolutely off the charts). Kim and Harry are great foils - they're only one year apart in age, both born Revacholians, both in the police force for twenty years (Harry has actually only been there for 18 years), but the way they've been treated in their world is very different. Even beyond the racist comments he gets from other characters in Martinaise, it's telling that Kim is as clever as you, and *considerably* more competent, and yet despite Past-Harry's constant drinking and crazy-difficulty-to-work-with, Harry's still been been offered two more promotions than Kim has over the same amount of time (to be a lieutenant double-yefritor instead of a lieutenant). If Kim lost his cool and hit Harry, it'd be blamed on him.
@@fluffyravens3758 In Harry's defense of his rank, though I have no doubt Revacholian's and the RCM treat Kim differently. It's stated in the game that Harry started working himself to death after the break up, taking roughly two cases a week! which has lead to his whopping 216 cases solved with only room for one more open case in his ledger. He got his rank cause of his eccentric superstar cop persona and unorthodox approach to interrogation I.e." the can opener". plus Kim was a junior cop for thirteen year technically which in my opinion is where the real prejudice was, seeing how clever and competent he was!
Every time I remember Kim's VA had only ever done minor voice work in commercials before this, it blows my mind. His performance makes me want to cry and hug him close.
i'm an east asian guy and holy shit what he says is kind of just what i want to say sometimes. oh, man, this scene was so good because it's so realistic. nobody bats an eye, nobody calls him out on his bullshit, the victim is expected to and does in fact not retaliate because the fuck can you do in that kinda situation, where nobody gives a shit?
making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing. I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal. What else should be in the comp?
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I knew you needed Authority to pass the check and I reeaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to dance with Kim. I passed the check and I have never been so glad about anything. I had no idea this was the fail outcome and H. O. L. Y. S. H. I. T
I am so grateful that I never even encountered this scenario. It would literally be the only time where "If you die in the game, you die in real life (on the inside)" wasn't just a meme, it would have been real.
Well, I'm a half asian in a culture that has racism pretty normalized, and I have to listen slurs almost on daily basis. They aren't that hurtful at all, to an adult person at least, but just as game said - it's like a broken record, heard one time too many. Feeling of alienation despite being diffirent in a look only is real. And his feelings and opinions are so on point. Hopefully it will make at least some people who play this game think about that stuff.
i'm a white person so i don't experience racism but this is very similar to the feeling i get when people talk shit about trans people or Autistic people. like, haha. your funny percent joke is a real banger the 700th time.
I’m white and experience racism now daily. It’s really damn sad how the world nearly got rid of racism in the 90s and now it’s just everywhere all the time
This is one of the most painful things I've seen in a video game. Kim is the best of the best, no matter what happened in my playthrough I knew he had my back so I was true to him. I cannot express how happy I am that I passed this skill check, this would have been the only failed check I would have save scummed.
Unfathomable pain, literally your skill sets give up on you improving after that point. I could not go through playing that way myself, and I actually regret hearing this/seeing this. Great work to the writers and actual creators behind Disco Elysium, but how dare you lol
It's 100 percent possible. It just may count some racist answers under facism in your journal. You can still be a fascist communist tho. Nothing stops you.
@@seaque. Game sort of treats all types of right wing thought points as same and jumbles them together, you can be a pathetic straight up racist like lorry driver or revacholian indepedence supporter monarchist yet it all comes down to same shit, also if you play as a kingsman nationalist you might even change your mind a little on Kim
I did it and I quit halfway because, while this is the worst interaction, there are so many micro aggressions and casual disrespectful things you can say to Kim. It made me realise that when Kim is quiet or sounds dismissive towards you in a normal run, it is nothing compared to the cold silence when he gives up on you (My first run was also a hyper empathy autistic goober kind of run- kind of rp'd myself- so the difference was soooooo jarring. Going from Kim being pleasantly surprised that you care about his feelings to the resignation that he's in another awful situation with a fellow officer, yet again.).
I must mention. This moment is one of the best representations of the human condition. You are there. In the moment. Everything is going right. Everyone there is on your side. Taking vibe notes from you. And then... then you misread it for one moment. And call, Lieutenant Kim, the one who has, against his better judgement, backed you up through it all, a slur. Everything in your mind then turns 93 degrees. Nothing can bring back the vibe, nothing can take back the words, which you threw in a fit of blinding energy, nothing can win back the Lieutenant. As if you learned nothing, and are just coasting through it all, thinking you are invincible. These seemingly simple moments, with no bearing on the important events form and shape the entire future of the relationship. Always keep your vibe in check.
Unironically, Disco Elysium portrays racism better than 99.9 percent of all media. I really hope they one day make an original movie or TV series, more people need to experience this.
Wow now I am so proud of myself choosing the lieutenant option after the pinball task. Kim didn't give a clear response to that, but he did hint it here and there.
In my first playthrough, I never rolled back the progress except for this scene when I failed the Authority check. It was terrible and I did not want to continue, ended up not seeing Kim’s dance moves! Now looking for his dance moves and alternative scenes in TH-cam. Thanks for uploading this.
thank you for going through with this, i was able to go through with the genocide route in undertale, but this is waaaay too much for me i couldn't even imagine a playthrough of this game where i hurt this perfect man
It was... Such a painful and hard process, to finish watching this video. My curiosity and eagerness to find out more about the universe I'm so fatally in love with fought to death with all saint and humane that is in me... My heart just started bleeding.
I played through pretty much the exact same scenario, but when i failed the check i didn't have a chance to stop, i just wanted him to dance... i didn't want to be racists, but my god this was the lowest part of my play trough. the aftermath was visceral.. this game is so amazing.
God i love the extended metaphor of a "tape recorder" as Harry's thoughts and feelings molding around the new world he's learning about that appears all over this game "Spining on empty, forever," "a magnetic tape reader on the world," to UI for the text display scrolling out like a thin strip of tape and all the sound effects and now "like a man who's heard the same record one too many times" for Kim's persistent experience with racism in the RCM Good shit
During my first playthrough I knew there was a way to call Kim a slur, but I thought it would be like all the other racist stuff you can say, taht you could just opt out. I also knew there was a possibility of convincing Kim to dance. So of course I tried to make him dance ! Now, can anyone tell me WHY THOSE ARE THE TWO OUTCOMES OF THE SAME CHECK. WHICH SICKO'S IDEA WAS THAT.
Hearing this literally made me feel empty in my chest... Oh my God 💔 Also huge respect for Kim for accepting an apology cause in situation like this there's nothing that can justify Harry for saying this... Mad respect Kim.
Ох, я из любопытства сейчас пытаюсь неудачно пройти эту проверку, чтобы один раз увидеть и больше никогда не возвращаться, но! Мне в любом случае везёт, даже когда у меня 17% шанса на удачу.... Это удивительно, неужели игра чувствует, насколько этот поступок ужасен? 🤔🥺💔
That dialogue tree opens up when you apologize. No idea if all of those five options are available for everyone. If "true vacholiere" was not available to some people, I was not aware. I was playing this scene for the first time, while cheating using massive stats.
Haven't checked myself, but think you get true *Vacholiere* line after some intellect passive check during first dialogue with racist driver + not having racist thought. Could, please, somebody explain what is Vacholiere?
@@magicdog9523 no it's just a poetic reference to him being an RCM officer from a different precinct. All the RCM officers at your precinct are your brothers, so he is your half-brother.
> I got good ending, now let's discover all the other content
> You want me to hurt WHO?
who are you quoting?
@@brendanfinan3257 There were no quotation marks in that comment
@@brendanfinan3257himself?
I've also seen you could punch cuno in the face. Who does that?
@@ssebasgoo I punched Cuno, got his respect, and we became bros after that in my playthrough
This is the most painful thing I’ve ever seen in a video game
[EMPATHY]: easy - Success
Idk, I think Dora aborting a baby is worse.
@@dn7949 I mean, the way the game reveals that shit *does* hurt, because you pity Harrier for being so hopelessly in love with the shadow of a woman he knew six years ago, but this DIRECTLY hurts way more. Calling your partner a slur, in the NOW? It’s not empathy for the protagonist, it’s for *your* partner. The one you can rely on the entire game. Far more painful than any memory Harrier has of a long ago termination, the reveal of which he turns into his former love tearing into him for being poor and helpless.
my authority check was at 97% for this check and i fucking crumpled after failing it and having this happen
Same situation
This is hilarious lmao, you poor guys, but moments like these are part of what makes the game great because you cant take anything for granted
this, this is why i quicksave
I borrowed your luck for a 3% roll that I succeeded first try, and I apologize
Hurting Kim like that is worse than setting a puppy orphanage on fire
Even when you are purposely trying to disappoint him even mildly, you absolutely FEEL like a piece of shit.
I can confirm this
Same thing tbh
huh
I realized that I would feel worse about saying this slur to Kim than about letting Kim get shit (but obviously both are horrible). Which is a strange thing to think, one could've killed him, the other hurts him only emotionally.... and yet...
there are so many parts of Disco Elysium I will never see. I never want to go through this. I never want to read this conversation. I never want to be in this situation. In a game where choices matter, usually it's fun to see where all of the choices lead, but not here. not this game. Some choices go places that hurt my own spirit so much, that I would never feel comfortable playing a game like that.
So other people think like that too...
For me that's the one of the strongest points the game makes, such is life, most of the time you don't know what choices will lead you to hurting situations, and even if you do, sometimes you don't have any other option, sometimes we fuck up good, hell sometimes we don't even get that we fucked up in the moment or we are unable to accept it, disco elysium for me is about failing, and hurting, but must importantly, it is about surviving, living with the consequences of you actions, learning what you can and standing up in the face of literal monsters. The pale, the love of your life leaving you, even the case itself are all adversities outside of our understanding and it can feel like there's no hope, there's nothing you can do to stop these monsters from eating you piece by piece, except there is, you solve the case didn't you? Maybe if you push on you'll be able to defeat more of the monsters, and that ressonated with me a lot, but that's just my interpretation
I'd take actual moral damage if I went down this route.
Apparently if you say you see him as “a true *Vacholiere*”, he’ll really appreciate it as “no one has ever said that to (him) before.”
So just in case you fail the dance check, you can still make it something really touching.
This is the only game that encourages you to NOT 100% it
Man upsetting Kim is like THE WORST thing. I would have save scummed if I ever failed this I don't even care. Like I feel sick just watching this.
I failed this check randomly, my authority stat was really high - and I was horrified by needing to call Kim a monkey fucker, so I reloaded and replayed HALF AN HOUR and then save-scummed until I won the dance check. Goddamn, sir, I can fail a lotta things but Kim deserves every ounce of my love and respect, and I will not have it otherwise
Being able to call him a true Revacholier somewhat makes up for it.
@@rangergxi still, he leaves your side for the day :( i can't do work without kim by my side to gawk at my stupidity
I failed a 97% roll and got this
same with the mercenary confrontation. it was going so well and i also had 97% there to protect Kim and failed... HOW!!
Yeah, I don't like the people who scam-save, but it's totally justified in this segment. And in mercenary brawl.
im here to offer my sincere condolences
IT HAPPENED TO ME IT LITERALLY FUCKING HAPPENED TOT ME WE ARE BROTHERS IN ARMS NOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS FUCKING HAPPENED TO ME
I would immediately save scum 😭💀
"I have to protect the investigation from you."
I thought the way I played it was soul-wrenching, geez!
Oh noooo. Jeez, failing that authority dice roll has one of the most punishing consequences I've seen in the game. It feels so terrible when you *have* to say terrible shit because you failed a skill check, but that also makes this experience very real.
If doing a sick gainer on a grandma wasn't enough of a warning for failed skill checks, that's really on you
@@uhoh7545 doesn't the game actually reward you for doing the sick gainer on the grandma? the amount you have to pay is reduced by like 30
@@NotBamOrBing 60 if you pass empathy check
@@NotBamOrBingyou can also get it reduced if you don’t run and pass an authority check. Down to 30 if you’re lucky.
@@NotBamOrBing
the game has a 50/50 rewards on good and bad choice. Even the game warns us that being too good in something will be detrimental to Harry.
God it breaks my heart to see Kim upset
That should’ve led to an instant game over
This is worse than Undertale's genocide route.
DAMN
At least the monsters didn't think you were their friend
I mean. I think Toriel did. But she had no reason to trust you as much as Kim did
Not even close
I feel conflicted about this
This scene was fucking fantastic. I literally covered my mouth in he real world when I realized what I made Tequila Sunset say. I got caught up in making Kim dance, so used to finger guns working I didn't even realize I called him a 'yellow monkey fucker.' My regret going into the apology was genuine
same here i got so excited by the idea of seeing kim dance i only went click-click-click until it was too late :(
I think you mean Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau!
This is the fucked-up alternate timeline where Kim treats you the same way precinct 41 does
It’s not an alternate timeline. It’s the consequences of your own actions. And based on the way the rest of 41 treats Harry, my guess is that he’s done something similar with all of them.
@@ginar2339 You can call the woman officer horse-faced the first time you see her in person
@@Daniel_WR_Hart Past-Harry was dangerously based jesus christ
I think it's good writing that if you fail the check, there's no way to back out of calling Kim the slur. Even if you've been making all the "right" choices with Harry and playing him as someone trying to get better, the fact that he has the capacity to blurt out a slur without thinking says a lot about who he was before losing his memory (and still has the potential to be)
Yes, but also.
Feels bad hurting Kim :(
@@genericname2747 Real
What? The man is capable of saying and doing all sorts of insane things in this game if you fail checks. Just look at the failed authority check with Titus (no matter what, you can't fully back out of doing something dumb in front of him). Trying to judge his past character based off of these checks is dumb.
@@gianni50725or maybe what op outlined just happens so much more than just calling Kim a slur. The “who harry was before the amnesia and has the potential to be” thing.
@giannih5072 The failed check with Titus is more proof that checks reveal who he used to be. He can threaten suicide to get what he wants just like he did when he first showed up to the Whirling n Rags
i got kim to dance and failed a 98% check right after that and harry screamed something like ''finally you monkey fucker'' I panicked and immediately alt+F4'd out of the game lmao
i asked for this, oh my god you even did the worst possible choices please i need to sit on a roof for three hours
Would it feel better if I did a compilation of being bros with Kim?
@@MuttonChopCop i wont come down until you do
@@Jango172 Oof. I hope thats not the case. My upload schedule is trash.
@@Jango172 making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
What else should be in the comp?
Lmao I just beat this game today, Kim is one of the greatest characters of all time and it’s a crime to disrespect him like that
I only wish the devs let Harry get punched out if you push it too far. Kim folds you flat, you wake up, he's gone, he reappears the next day, refuses to even speak about what happened.
That's the thing, isn't it? For one, it shows Kim's strength and fortitude to not do that - but for another, Kim knows that in their society he can't get away with something like that the way Harry can because of what he looks like. He's built up that massive restraint and force-of-will to make it so people *have* to take him seriously (it's telling that the Brow-Off shows that Kim's Authority is absolutely off the charts). Kim and Harry are great foils - they're only one year apart in age, both born Revacholians, both in the police force for twenty years (Harry has actually only been there for 18 years), but the way they've been treated in their world is very different.
Even beyond the racist comments he gets from other characters in Martinaise, it's telling that Kim is as clever as you, and *considerably* more competent, and yet despite Past-Harry's constant drinking and crazy-difficulty-to-work-with, Harry's still been been offered two more promotions than Kim has over the same amount of time (to be a lieutenant double-yefritor instead of a lieutenant). If Kim lost his cool and hit Harry, it'd be blamed on him.
@@fluffyravens3758 In Harry's defense of his rank, though I have no doubt Revacholian's and the RCM treat Kim differently. It's stated in the game that Harry started working himself to death after the break up, taking roughly two cases a week! which has lead to his whopping 216 cases solved with only room for one more open case in his ledger. He got his rank cause of his eccentric superstar cop persona and unorthodox approach to interrogation I.e." the can opener". plus Kim was a junior cop for thirteen year technically which in my opinion is where the real prejudice was, seeing how clever and competent he was!
@@8-bitmonster624 That's true, thanks for adding on!
@@fluffyravens3758 absolutely! We're Disco Elysiusts here!
@@8-bitmonster624 That only happens if you choose those options though.
Every time I remember Kim's VA had only ever done minor voice work in commercials before this, it blows my mind. His performance makes me want to cry and hug him close.
i'm an east asian guy and holy shit what he says is kind of just what i want to say sometimes. oh, man, this scene was so good because it's so realistic. nobody bats an eye, nobody calls him out on his bullshit, the victim is expected to and does in fact not retaliate because the fuck can you do in that kinda situation, where nobody gives a shit?
I felt bad even just watching this, holy shit.
pls a compilation of being bros with kim
making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
What else should be in the comp?
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I knew you needed Authority to pass the check and I reeaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to dance with Kim. I passed the check and I have never been so glad about anything. I had no idea this was the fail outcome and H. O. L. Y. S. H. I. T
I am so grateful that I never even encountered this scenario. It would literally be the only time where "If you die in the game, you die in real life (on the inside)" wasn't just a meme, it would have been real.
I’m curious how ‘continuing being a dick’ route affects confrontation with Precinct 41 when Kim gives you final evaluation and all
“+1 Respects you” just makes it even worse.
Well, I'm a half asian in a culture that has racism pretty normalized, and I have to listen slurs almost on daily basis. They aren't that hurtful at all, to an adult person at least, but just as game said - it's like a broken record, heard one time too many. Feeling of alienation despite being diffirent in a look only is real. And his feelings and opinions are so on point. Hopefully it will make at least some people who play this game think about that stuff.
It's not so much that it's outright offensive, but more so that it's just tiring to hear.
@@TheButterMinecart1 yes, exactly.
i'm a white person so i don't experience racism but this is very similar to the feeling i get when people talk shit about trans people or Autistic people. like, haha. your funny percent joke is a real banger the 700th time.
I’m white and experience racism now daily. It’s really damn sad how the world nearly got rid of racism in the 90s and now it’s just everywhere all the time
@@Milkman69ner *Did* the world nearly get rid of racism in the 90s?
"Games make you violent". Meanwhile I just wanna Kim to like Harry and don't wanna pick any mean dialogue options.
Have a playthrough where Half Light is your main skill
@@Daniel_WR_Hart Does not half light constantly tell you to kill people :^)?
Games making people violent was disproven by psychological studies as far back as 2006. That was 18 years ago. No one believes that anymore.
i'm a rough one but can't insult Kim. this scene definitely heartbreaking, i wanna hug this poor guy so much
To be honest I save scummed this check for like half an hour bc I had low authority. God this fucking kills me to watch
This is one of the most painful things I've seen in a video game. Kim is the best of the best, no matter what happened in my playthrough I knew he had my back so I was true to him. I cannot express how happy I am that I passed this skill check, this would have been the only failed check I would have save scummed.
I have to remind myself that it's all fiction to stop myself feeling ashamed just for watching; that's how effective the writing is. Wow.
Jesus fuck. I didn’t realise it could go this badly
Harry: "Can't anyone take a joke anymore"
as an asian guy grew up in the west, this hit me hard
Unfathomable pain, literally your skill sets give up on you improving after that point.
I could not go through playing that way myself, and I actually regret hearing this/seeing this.
Great work to the writers and actual creators behind Disco Elysium, but how dare you lol
WHO DARES SLUR MY BEST BOY?!
shaking and crying while trying to unpause this at 0:46 but being unable to because i do Not want to exist in a world where kim is hurt like this
this is so painful… kim… beautiful cinnamon roll too pure for this world
Volition sounds like Kevan Brighting a bit when it's voice breaks from disappointment
I'm gonna go play a genocide run in Undertale to lighten up the mood
Thank you for doing this for all of us. I would never be able to go down this route, it genuinely hurts so much to make Kim dissapointed.
i was planning on superstar, racist, communist playthrough but seeing this makes me wonder if i can manage it.
It's 100 percent possible. It just may count some racist answers under facism in your journal.
You can still be a fascist communist tho. Nothing stops you.
Nothing... except feeling guilty of my behaviours during the game.
You can be a "less racist" facist in your playthrough.
In fact if you do, Kim is lightly more sympathetic then not at all.
@@seaque. Game sort of treats all types of right wing thought points as same and jumbles them together, you can be a pathetic straight up racist like lorry driver or revacholian indepedence supporter monarchist yet it all comes down to same shit, also if you play as a kingsman nationalist you might even change your mind a little on Kim
I did it and I quit halfway because, while this is the worst interaction, there are so many micro aggressions and casual disrespectful things you can say to Kim. It made me realise that when Kim is quiet or sounds dismissive towards you in a normal run, it is nothing compared to the cold silence when he gives up on you (My first run was also a hyper empathy autistic goober kind of run- kind of rp'd myself- so the difference was soooooo jarring. Going from Kim being pleasantly surprised that you care about his feelings to the resignation that he's in another awful situation with a fellow officer, yet again.).
Watching these options makes me want to open up my save to check on Kim even though we got the best possible ending and he's my bff :((
I must mention. This moment is one of the best representations of the human condition. You are there. In the moment. Everything is going right. Everyone there is on your side. Taking vibe notes from you. And then... then you misread it for one moment. And call, Lieutenant Kim, the one who has, against his better judgement, backed you up through it all, a slur.
Everything in your mind then turns 93 degrees. Nothing can bring back the vibe, nothing can take back the words, which you threw in a fit of blinding energy, nothing can win back the Lieutenant.
As if you learned nothing, and are just coasting through it all, thinking you are invincible.
These seemingly simple moments, with no bearing on the important events form and shape the entire future of the relationship.
Always keep your vibe in check.
„my half-brother” option makes me cry
I wanted to finish the game in 100% but my heart can't handle dialogues where we are mean to Kim
Unironically, Disco Elysium portrays racism better than 99.9 percent of all media. I really hope they one day make an original movie or TV series, more people need to experience this.
I couldn't even force myself to watch«continuing to be a Dick» part.
Wow now I am so proud of myself choosing the lieutenant option after the pinball task. Kim didn't give a clear response to that, but he did hint it here and there.
In my first playthrough, I never rolled back the progress except for this scene when I failed the Authority check. It was terrible and I did not want to continue, ended up not seeing Kim’s dance moves! Now looking for his dance moves and alternative scenes in TH-cam. Thanks for uploading this.
thank you for going through with this, i was able to go through with the genocide route in undertale, but this is waaaay too much for me i couldn't even imagine a playthrough of this game where i hurt this perfect man
Harry: *calling Kim the most offensive slur known to man*
Also Harry: 🕺🕺🕺
It was... Such a painful and hard process, to finish watching this video. My curiosity and eagerness to find out more about the universe I'm so fatally in love with fought to death with all saint and humane that is in me... My heart just started bleeding.
Failing this authority check was the only time in my entire playthrough where I reloaded an old save due to failure.
Jfc I actually started crying
I don’t even have this game and I still feel bad for Kim.
I don’t have it in me to watch the part where you don’t apologize
I love how the voices in your head are just fully against you
Had to reset the thing and...i didn't have the guts to pass the check again.
You totally showed that binoclard!
I was just clicking to remember the covo and I accidently clicked that and had to reload my save when he left I felt like a POS
How can I unsee this? It's just too painful for my heart
So that is how you reach the lowest low with Kim. I cant do this to my precious Kim
Saw the title and immediately felt insanely bad. No! Why would you do that? No! Dearly beloved kim! No! No!
I played through pretty much the exact same scenario, but when i failed the check i didn't have a chance to stop, i just wanted him to dance... i didn't want to be racists, but my god this was the lowest part of my play trough. the aftermath was visceral.. this game is so amazing.
-1000 morale. Game Over
This game is almost impossible to do alternate runs with, I just can't bear to be a dick sometimes. Especially not to *ahem* Lieutenant Kutsuragi.
4:23 i actually started shaking listening to this part omggg
Normally Harry would be in a middle of a break down. Here, he is breaking down.
I didn't wanna know this was a thing. I hate your for this. I feel bad for Kim
I leveled authority specifically because i was spoiled on this part.
This would force me to stop and reload. I can't have this be reality
God i love the extended metaphor of a "tape recorder" as Harry's thoughts and feelings molding around the new world he's learning about that appears all over this game "Spining on empty, forever," "a magnetic tape reader on the world," to UI for the text display scrolling out like a thin strip of tape and all the sound effects and now "like a man who's heard the same record one too many times" for Kim's persistent experience with racism in the RCM
Good shit
I couldn't live with myself if I did this in my playtrough
I felt bad just watching this.
During my first playthrough I knew there was a way to call Kim a slur, but I thought it would be like all the other racist stuff you can say, taht you could just opt out. I also knew there was a possibility of convincing Kim to dance. So of course I tried to make him dance ! Now, can anyone tell me WHY THOSE ARE THE TWO OUTCOMES OF THE SAME CHECK. WHICH SICKO'S IDEA WAS THAT.
This is the most painful thing.
Thank god I pass the check
thank you for doing this so i never have to but can still know what happens
Hearing this literally made me feel empty in my chest... Oh my God 💔
Also huge respect for Kim for accepting an apology cause in situation like this there's nothing that can justify Harry for saying this... Mad respect Kim.
Damn, even Volition seems dissapointed when you accept you are irretrievable
This is why I spec'd into authority.
I had a 97% chance of success and I still failed.
Literally this is too painful to watch
This text option should end with death good hod
Holy shit, i really dodged a bullet lmao
Ох, я из любопытства сейчас пытаюсь неудачно пройти эту проверку, чтобы один раз увидеть и больше никогда не возвращаться, но!
Мне в любом случае везёт, даже когда у меня 17% шанса на удачу.... Это удивительно, неужели игра чувствует, насколько этот поступок ужасен? 🤔🥺💔
FUCKKKK I`M SO LOVE THAT GUY AND I`M SITTING AND FUCKING CRUYNG RN.
I didn’t realise you could apologise, I just save scummed because I thought he was gone forever
Wait I'm confused. How do you get the dialogue option "A true *Vacholiere*"?
That dialogue tree opens up when you apologize.
No idea if all of those five options are available for everyone.
If "true vacholiere" was not available to some people, I was not aware.
I was playing this scene for the first time, while cheating using massive stats.
@@MuttonChopCop ah OK, thnx mate
@@MuttonChopCop I was confused cause I only got 2 dislogue options after apologizing to Kim(the last 2).
@@MuttonChopCop Wasn't available for me. Outcome is the same though, he leaves for the day.
Haven't checked myself, but think you get true *Vacholiere* line after some intellect passive check during first dialogue with racist driver + not having racist thought.
Could, please, somebody explain what is Vacholiere?
That "we're done" reduced me into an anxious mess 😭 why would anyone hurt him like that 💀
Мне так больно на это даже смотреть......
I'm not gonna lie, I save scummed this check. Don't care, can't bear to see my man kim hurt that badly.
Wathcing how Kim got insulted:
[DAMAGED MORALE -15]
I reloaded a save from an hour prior just to avoid this, it was too painful.....
Imagine if harry kept dancing after that
Just finished the game. So he's my half-brother and doesn't like being called Kim? The hell did I miss this info?!
Not literally your half brother haha
@@mckennaa3641 Ooooh haha I was gonna say! I swear I paid attention XD
@@popskiptea8707 I wonder if the "half-brother" thing is some weird Estonian idiom that didn't translate well to English.
@@magicdog9523 no it's just a poetic reference to him being an RCM officer from a different precinct.
All the RCM officers at your precinct are your brothers, so he is your half-brother.
@@Eddn102 Yeah, it's Esprit de Corps speaking up, so it's in the sense of True Detective Brotherhood and so on.
Detective Kitsuragi... i could never treat him this way :(