There's a documentary about 6 men who volunteer to experience what a Guantanamo prisoner may face and it's horrifying what they went through. 1 man had to step out because his temperature dropped dangerously low and 2 others couldn't take the abuse. All of this lasted only 48 hours.
@Caroline Fernandez It's called "Guantanamo Guidebook," which was aired in the UK in the mid 2000s. It would probably as controversial today as it was when it was released.
But they still left with their heads attached to their bodies, right? More than you can say if it were the other way around. These ppl are Savages. You have to treat them as such.
Frankly I would've loved to hear him elaborate more on his jedi warrior comment. The interviewer seemed more concerned with waterboarding. Hardly the big picture.
JORDAN i feel the same way. Eventhough we can kind of read between the lines. It would have been enlighting to have had a more in depth breakdown by james.
Well, just look at the story of Luke Skywalker in vague terms. This is the meme about him being a terrorist: cdn29.elitedaily.com/content/uploads/2015/12/18111230/starwars-485x327.jpg
There is very little to elaborate here. Remember any novel where an underdog hero has to face the great evil in order to save himself, his family, close group of friends or the entire world. From their point of view, USA is that great evil. Understandably so, because actions of American politicans resulted in destibilization of the region, many deaths of _"their brothers and sisters" (in the cultural and religious sense of these words)_ and then left devastation behind.
Yes, but the terrorist part is bullshit. If USA would not had troops in middle-east before 9/11 it would have not happened. Militant-islam where ok to USA when they where fighting against soviet union, and even back then they used suicide bommers again civilians, but later on not so when they took USA at target. What I´ve read the main reason for the attack in 9/11 acording to Al-Quida was USA troops on "holy land"
"That's not really true," "In conjunction with several other Islamic leaders, he issued two fatwas-in 1996 and then again in 1998-that Muslims should fight those that either support Israel or support Western military forces in Islamic countries, stating that those in that mindset are the enemy, including citizens from the United States and allied countries. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beliefs_and_ideology_of_Osama_bin_Laden "You'll also feel a little sick as an American anytime someone tries to justify their stance." I understand that, I feel little sick when any of the killers tries to justify their stance. Your government or it´s people that justify it´s policies, or the terrorist. Read too much what your countries policies have done in history in other countries and also what kind of war al qaida and ISIS have fought. Your country is not the good guys in my point of view nor ISIS or Al Qaida.. All of you have and are killing innocent people in massive scale. I had hoped that Obama would have changed your foreign policy, but no; he was just an politician. You created the system whit Pakistan to train muslims to be terrorist against Soviet Union when they where in Afganistan and funded and gave them weapons also so you have given money and weapons to suicide bombers who many times target civilians. And now United States government is fighting against the same guys that where the good guys in Rambo III ;) You created the system that terrorist use for training and making these terrorist attacks. When I saw planes hit the twin towers in news, I was not surprised, . Before I would up the grand scale of things, I was thinking that where might the people that made this come from. South or middle america, Asia, Africa or Middle-East. If it would have been just one plain, it could be any of these areas, because you have been killing innocent civilians in all of them. But no, in the end it came out that you had created terrorist training systems that they where still using, and now using against you. And yes, I feel sorry for any civilians life who die, who had nothing to do whit anything, USA citizen or other.
***** I was not talking about the WWII, but Afganistan 1979-1989 war as the main reason for the nowadays terrorism and about USA actions in South America and Asia in the era of cold war, like putting to power people like Pinocetti, bombing of Cambodian people, Vietnam, supporting people like Siad Barre etc, companies like United Fruit Company that was backet by USA goverment and CIA etc. "There's not a whole lot of countries I can think of without several ills." I would say none. No country is with out ills. But very few bring up that they are for freedom or democracy when they do their shit. Almost all at least listens little bit of UN if they are not completely rogue state. " I fail to see it as problem of the whole of the US." Do you mean that you don´t see problems just to be USA made? If so, I don´t eather. The most problems that flamed up to fights in the cold war, like in Asia, South and middle america, Middle-East and Africa where planted during the imperialistic era, and the poor people saw soviets as a chance to get away from oppression. That did happen, at least in south america, the middle class has grown and people most of the people are not so poor anymore. "Anyway, if not for the US or Russia or the myriad of other actions taken in the past would you be here? " In history, I prefer not to talk this what if conversation, because the route is not know. It´s like what if Germany would have not been so humiliated after first world war, what if Hitler would have had nice dad, what if he would got in the art school, what if German army would not had hired Hitler as a spy after WWI and not send him to listen DAP meeting because of that, what if american nazi`s would had not funded Hitler etc. USA did not want to take part to WWII, but after Pearl Harbor, I think they did not have a choice. "Anyway, if not for the US or Russia or the myriad of other actions taken in the past would you be here? " Not sure, but as I see, US and Russia had no option to not take part to the war. Japan attacked USA and Germany attacked Soviet Union. " More to that point though is what would've happened in your region if they hadn't taken such steps. " Not sure, I´m from Finland and we in the same side whit Germany. Finnish government wanted to take back the areas that we had lost during winter war 1939 - 1940 what Soviets started. Some Finns, hard to find how many nowadays, even dreamed that after the war we would have some kind of Greater Finland whit Finno-Ugric tribes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland still what I read, I´m not quite sure, Nazis did not necessarily think us a pure race, so maybe the gas chamber would have been the end of the line and even without that I think this way is better. For me in any war there is no winning side. Bankers and rich people and ruling elite makes money from the poor mans skin.
Its disappointing to see many people in the comments deceived by his well rehearsed delivery of neocon war-crime apologist dogma developed for domestic social engineering by counterintelligence experts to deter accountability using every psychological weakness of humanity to poison critical thinking in as many as possible, to replace de facto reality with the fog of war, where we can waste our energy arguing with each other about which of his claims have merit, and which are counterfactual, while overlooking the logical fallacies applied to feign sincerity. The reality of the war on terror is that the Intelligence agencies of America & its collaborators like Israel, the Saudis & UAE have been renditioning (rendering) any brown guy living somewhere that hasn't paid enough for "protection" who was unlucky enough to be turned in for cash rewards off to the nearest black site trying to look busy to keep their budget growing. He will be tortured, not for actionable information, but because it brings sadistic joy to his captors. His family will be killed by drone strike regardless, not because of any information obtained about a threat, but because the Air Force or CIA doesn't need to buy more million dollar missiles until they use the ones they already have!
That is actually a terrible point for a number of reasons. Primarily, It is NOT true that people generally "agree that it is ok to use hellfire missiles on innocent civilians"
I wont defend Mitchell but the sheer panic, hysteria and uncontrolled rage that followed 9/11 almost guaranteed that US organisations tasked with preventing another attack were going to resort to any measure to achieve their goals, even if it meant breaking their own rules and ethics. The Milgram experiment taught us how far ordinary people were willing to go to hurt others just because an authority figure told them to, now add the pressure of preventing a deadly terrorist attack that could kill your friends and family and it'll be a miracle if anyone's moral composure remained intact. Its easy to sit back after 14 years of hindsight and mutter how horrible it was but frankly I was actually expecting the methods used to be far worse than what was detailed in the report. If anything I was surprised that only one inmate died from his mistreatment, in most other regimes the attrition rate would be FAR higher. Regardless its essential that the US learns as much as it can from this dark part of its history so we can all put that very messy decade behind us and move on.
No one really knows how many actually died, or how many people were tortured, or how bad the torture was. , Its not like the report really told everything. The CIA could be withholding lots of information and evidence
And also the US uses extraordinary rendition, which is the the government sponsored abducting and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one country to another. And so when they transfer those people to other countries, those countries might not follow the law and do really bad things. They are taken to "black sites", 54 countries have participated in this. It is much worse than you would think. Much worse.
I agree with you. They had to do everything to protect the country. They could let that happen again and if it meant torturing people, so be it. I dont see a problem with the EIP. Mitchell made a good point. It's ok to send in a hellfire missile and kill the entire family, but it's not ok to to practice the EIP on people? Makes no sense.
Everything you said is just unrepentant misinformation, and outright bullshit. We knew 14 years ago exactly what was going to happen with the PATRIOT act, it's not like everyone collectively lost their minds, they chose to hand over that power, even though everyone knew it would only lead to pointless atrocity. You're making excuses for torturers.
This psychologist was using all his experience to tell Kaj exactly what he wanted Kaj to know. He was reading Kaj like a book, preparing a script and delivering it right before our eyes. The crying was orchestrated deception. I'm not saying Kaj was fooled but Mitchell was putting on a full court press with the deftness of an experienced knife fighter.
This guy is a psychopath. No sane, normal person would torture anyone for this amount of time. Days, weeks and months on end.. Force-feeding them by nasal tubes and enemas so they wouldn't die and then torture them some more...And they capitalize on it. It takes a vicious, cruel, callous person to do that. He should be locked up for what he did, and yet he's giving interviews and being listened to. Out in the open. Kayaking... Mad World.
@@monray03 Are you a child or a muslim? Because I promise you wouldnt feel that way if you saw your friends charred, splattered bodies splayed across a 30 yard section of the street in New York City in 2001. These animals that were tortured got off EASY.
"you want to kill my friends, you want to kill my family, and you want to destroy my way of life, you have my full attention." War is two sides blinded by hate and anger. This has been explained well in multiple forms of medium. The same thing this man said about them they say about us. The second you no longer see your enemy as a human is the second you lose, and in this case, both sides are losing.
I like the line," But literally when you wanna kill my friends, and you wanna kill my family, and you wanna destroy my way of life, you've got my full attention."
I'm going to tell you guys something you won't believe but it is absolutely true. One of my uncles was in Guantanamo as part of his service in military. I was a child. My mother then died and we went to live with my mother's sister and my grandma. My uncle visited us time to time. Then my aunt started to punish us in ways you wouldn't believe someone is capable of to do to a child. Here I put the main forms of punishments she used to apply on us. 1. Force our heads under water in a tub. 2. Sleep deprivation combined with non stop excercises like jumping or squating. 3. Roll us on a blanket under the sun for ours. 4. Food deprivation for days. 5. Force us to carry buckets of water trough stairs, fully naked and barefoot. 6. Cold water baths outdoors. 7. Spanks on a chair with a branch or cables. 8. Forced us to beat each other on the mouth with closed fist. 9. Forced us to push each other heads underwater. 10. Forced us to drink jalapeño shakes. 11. Forced me to eat my own excrements. 12. Mouthwash with lemon juice after beat me in the mouth with closed fist. I'm on therapy now. But when I heard of the CIA manual of torture and read their methods, something make click on my mind and I guess my uncle used to tell my aunt about what he knew about punishments and she used it on us.
23:00 he talks like he worked as a volunteer who just wanted to serve his country, but in fact he was given $180 million contract (of which he was paid $81 million before the CIA cancel the contract). He made a fortune because of 9\11 by leading a torture program that does not even work.
That guy should write a book then lock it up. So when he dies he can at least tell his story. I think not being able to talk is emotionally disturbing to him.
i'm sure the tens of millions of dollars he earned from torturing people who have never been charged with anything certainly help with this darling's "disturbing" emotions. www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/flat-wrong-big-bucks-torture-teacher-slams-cia-report-n265656
Yeah, but project Artichoke was about mind-controlling people to do assassinations. MKUltra on the other hand was used for different purposes like interrogations or mind-controlling leaders.
Kind of scary when they sat and had a good laugh about water boarding. This guy is pure psychopath. I have to stop watching the clip after him proving it at least 10 times.
It’s so disturbing at how his psychopathic tendencies is and with the part with the alligator he’s crazy for sure laughing while talking about the torture
Wow. This psychologist was playing a mind game with the interviewer, the boat ride to look at alligators and such was a mind tactic to put fear in the interviewer. This is incredibly fascinating stuff. Like something out of Hannibal Lector. INCREDIBLE!!!!!
This “psychologist” used little to no scientific principles in the design of his torture methods. Nonsense and pseudoscience. People in the comments focus on his “for my country” attitude, but tens of millions of dollars is a lot of money patriotism don’t you think? Innocent civilians were tortured to death using his methods. Now he gets to paddle around his manor for the rest of his life. Injustice
***** Donald Sutherland, father of the actor Kiefer Sutherland who plays the role of Jack Bauer on 24. A federal agent who works for Counter Terrorist Unit. And yes he interrogates/tortures terrorists to stop attacks. My all time favorite TV show, if you have never seen it beware because it is amazing and highly addicting.
This guy obviously had an axe to grind.he is just pissed that his innocent friend was killed by a muslim group.he was absolutely the worst person for that program because he has conflict of interest,that forces him to make emotional decisions.he couldn't even keep it together for the interview.
That's a very good point to make. It probably over simplifies the complexity that is this man and his work with the government but it does seem like he was highly motivated by emotional issues. I mean, if this interview is accurate at all, his reaction to remembering 9/11 is pretty scary for a man that could be potentially behind planning on how to deal with the people behind the attack. So much emotion.
Brett Elkin it's not a winnable war, you Mook. it's a perpetual war machine since there is no real enemy. yes, there is a face (osama bin Laden, saddam) but they're gone and we're still at it
jermom phat read this guys book about enhanced interrogations. It is a winnable war. But not the way liberals want to fight it. And certainly not winnable if you offer constitutional rights to non US citizens.
Yep. On a backboard, strapped down, and gagged with a wet rag over my nose. Even throw in the backwards incline, and I could do it, all day long. And talk mad shit to the retards trying to torture me. I would be the torture, not them. My mind is stronger than my will to breathe. All it takes is training, and also being able to swim for at least five miles in Salt water. Then float, relax, and keep swimming. I guess you have never known about self control? Biofeedback? Controlling your heart-rate, ignoring a little pain? Maybe I am just one of those people that looks ahead more than a month or two.
Not all Navy Seals get SERE Training. Only Military personnel that could find themselves alone behind enemy lines are given this training. The only mission at that point is to evade capture, survive, and be rescued. If you fail to do so, a gun is provided to end the mission.
Anyone get the feeling that he'll end up getting disappeared when he's out kayaking by himself? Those alligators look like they could get devour a body in seconds.
This guy's ego seems blatant. Some paraphrased quotes, in order: "I find kayaking with alligators to be a sign of intelligence." "I wish I could talk about Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (EITs), but I can't because I signed an NDA." "I would be shocked if those techniques yielded anything actionable." "I'm not trying to imply that it's me (after rather convincingly having implied that it was him)." "Most of my library is about understanding Islam, specifically fundamentalism, because they killed my friend; if you try to destroy my friends, my family, my way of life, you have my full attention." "Waterboarding wasn't illegal from 2002 to 2006; I don't think it's right or wrong. You can overuse it, you can underuse it." "I feel bad that ISIS's hostages were waterboarded. I really do. But the ones primarily responsible for that are the media because those programs were classified, and the media were the ones who spread it around and made it public." And the biggest one (while he was crying, mind you): "What he said was, 'if you're not willing to do it, how can we ask anybody else?'"
Hold on just a second there sir. You said he was crying when I didn't see nary a single tear after straining himself for about 10 seconds. Also his voice never shook one time except when he said " All those people that died for nO reason!" Me, personally, I think this man could have been just as good in Apocalypse Now as Martin Sheen was. Really not a bad actor at all. I mean, crying is hard after all.
This was actually a fairly objective interview. Well done. Also, I just want to point out that when we hear that it cost our government $40 million to investigate anything that happened within it's own facilities, that kind of bulls#!t is a mockery in our faces of our chosen and voluntary propensity to ignore all logical indicators that we do not believe it cost $100 in real time.
17:23 The program being classified is not an excuse. You shouldn't depend on classification to defend yourself from being held accountable for shitty behavior. Exposing the truth is literally the media's job. Classification should be protecting operational information such as troop movements and capabilities, where the president sleeps, etc., not to hide the fact that you were torturing people.
If you have to waterboard someone like KSM 183 times, that means its not working. If it worked they'd have to waterboarded him one or two times. But it didn't work, so they kept doing it. Duh.
Or it just means that everyone has a breaking point, its just a matter of finding it. In KSMs case that was 183 times. If the intel he was sitting on was so valuable and still relevant (clues to the location of OBL) then I guess it is worth it and justified to get that info.
+Gee Jackson It is probably because of the ominous location.A lake,absolutely secluded from the outside world and surrounded with alligators?Seems like the perfect place to dump a body.
If you have compassion for individuals that slaughtered Americans, consider yourself lucky to have a true patriot like James, not our politically correct l leaders for whom the seat is above nation!!,
No wonder: Mitchell's a perverted sociopath who misappropriated his field for the purposes of actualizing some dark fantasies at the behest of "protecting Americans".
VICE News met up with James Mitchell in suburban Florida to discuss the Senate's report and one of the darkest chapters of the war on terror. This is the first time Mitchell has ever appeared on camera. Read “What $300 Million Bought the CIA's 'Detention and Interrogation’ Program” - bit.ly/1Byh30p
I have a big penis and I want everybody to know that!!!! could you perhaps do a documentary solely documenting about the length and width of my toottttttttssssssssiiiieeeee rollllllllllll >.
Do we really believe that our enemies will stop torturing our captured people simply if we stop? These people have no sense of morality (sometimes literally as actual psychopaths), are limited by no laws and view us as less than human. I am not saying this as a defence of torture, but merely to argue the idiocy of this assumption. Even if we are to believe torture can sometimes be useful, it is still not reliable enough to excuse its immoral nature. In the dark reality of the real world, sometimes we have to make hard choices, and we should do this by balancing ethics with the greater good. The only time I would say this rule would be nullified is in the case of intentionally killing civilians. This, to me, is never acceptable. The problem with the West is that people who have never seen the horror of the real world, who live in relative comfort because of the people who sacrifice themselves in that world, want to judge everyone and everything as if they know everything, while they themselves can never be judged in return.
Yes. I think a lot of people would not hate the West of there was no guantanamo-pictures or a global drone war. Most of them are not from Arab Countries but from weithin our own societies. It is racism, Ghettos, seeing people like them are being tortured for years without explanation what causes them to resist. And They do it With in the same traumatized, aggressive way, the US did and do to half the Arab World. Torturing will always fuel Terrorism. Period.
Why is this disgusting human being treated like some sort of hero? It takes a very special character to experience what he experienced without vomiting, crying and fainting. I would not shake this man's hand with a fireproof glove on. He makes me sick.
I'm an Englishman and in the elephant and castle when 9/11 happened, the whole pub fell silent and people started crying. If I thought that doing what this man did could help in the retribution of that horrendous act by just 1% I would have. And now the nation he loves are deserting him. That's gratitude for being a true patriot.
DedSec many things caused 9/11, most of which were our doing. And everything we have done since then has caused further crisis around the globe. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@MistaBrown420 I don't know what you mean by what if; it's kind of a known fact that at the very least the official narrative is heavily altered by our government. I won't say it's an "inside job", but at the very least they are complicit due to willful ignorance; in all likelihood it goes much further than that. As I said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and judging the man's intent is pure speculation. I get the Englishman's patriotism; really, I do. But that patriotism can blind people. It can cause them to blame the effects rather than digging for what caused the effect in a rage, and it has consequences. Everything has consequences, no matter how good of a reason you did it for.
If someone wanted to kill you with waterboarding they could. Just because it doesn't happen doesn't mean it _can't_ happen. Done right, waterboarding won't give the body sufficient oxygen intake and if this were to pass for a long period of time..... ...Well, I'll let you look up what happens if you can't breathe.
+Go Hizle You're 100% wrong. The other guy interviewed in this segment, Margolese, he's Zubaydah's lawyer, he gave an interview to Scott Horton, and in it he said that when they were waterboarding him they discussed what to do with him in case he dies. So yeah, you can die, and not only can you die but you can die even if they're not trying to kill you. As if that's not obvious.
it says alot when he believes the alligators are more afraid of him than he is of them; shows a lot about how great of a "psychologist" is, and shows how a showman like he is can leave a sick, dark mark on our government with smooth talk.
I wonder if the lawyer representing Abu feels any sort of remorse or disgust for representing a terrorist. Then again, he probably wasn't personally affected by their actions in 9/11.....
9/11 never happened because of religion, it happened because the US invaded afghanistan, killed children and teared families apart. osama bin laden said it himself, it happened for the people being killed as a revenge
when you look at the guy, you can see there is some kind of anger and that's not his fault, imo that what war is about. until every party stop to force whatever they think are right to do to other, war will never stop.
I think you're identifying an inquisitive, analytical mind. People always think I'm very angry or upset because of my facial expression but in reality it's just the way I look when I am deep in thought or analyzing an idea.
@@kristinmeyer489 government and military and corporations are full of these guys. Always choosing the lesser of two evils in their eyes. I mean just watch Apocalypse Now he's very much like Sheens or Brandos character. Life long military company man.
17:15 - "I think the primary responsibility for that lies with the media" 17:45 - "I didn't say all of the fault" 17:50 - "I think it's shared; I think it's 50/50" This guy is such a prick.
It's amazing how a person can justify anything to themselves. He knows it doesn't work. Yet he desperately wants to be justified in what he did. That cognitive dissonance is killing him. He's full of shit.
That was in relation to Iran-Contra, had nothing to do with waterboarding, torture, or interrogation. Not to mention the fact that he never actually said that.
@@skindianu provide a link to this interview. Sarah McClendon published her interviews and this has never surfaced. No one can find proof of this. It has been debunked time and again.
@@chrisfleischmann1346 I can't get the link to paste, but, there is an interview with an Iran/contra insider. Regardless of some sites that claim the quote as false, I would believe someone who was there. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but the fact is, nobody has done a fuckin thing about it anyway. I don't believe the narrative when written by those who were supposed to be held accountable for all the shitty things they did. Instead, they're washed clean and even pardoned by those involved. The man who gave the interview, quoting Bush is Lt. Commander Alexander Martin (retired).
@@skindianu so heresay. And the woman to whom Bush supposedly said it has never published it despite the claims that it was aired and published. Sorry, not buying it. Don't disagree with your other statements, but can't get on board with him saying that in an on the record interview.
The main issue I wish to address is whether water boarding is torture. Mitchell is not qualified to have an opinion. Dick Cheney is also not entitled. No one can know that unless they've been there. I went through SERE school in San Diego in 1974, and was water boarded twice. On my first trip I confessed to having sex with my mother. The second time I admitted to having a threesome with mom and a sheep (they knew I grew up in Montana).I would confess to anything while being tortured. They trained us that resistance was nearly impossible, nearly everyone breaks down (except the UDT Seals, but that is another story). If they had threatened me with another go round I would have called mom and asked to bring a sheep. I don't know if it is effective, but I know it is torture. ,
Emery Smith , I respect your opinion on the matter and your personal experience with it. The CIA interrogators who were trained to waterboard were required to be waterboarded themselves so that they understood intimately the severity of the technique. James Mitchell himself had experienced it (if you listen toward the end of this very interview, he makes mention of it). I've heard from those who have received SERE training express split opinion on the issue. It isn't unanimous. Everyone seems to have a personal opinion on what constitutes the definition of "torture"- and it varies from person to person. Only 3 HVTs were waterboarded. KSM was the last one, in 2003. Rumsfeld specifically did not sign off on waterboarding as a category III EIT, deeming it to be inappropriate for military interrogators. The CIA's role is different. BY 2005, waterboarding was essentially off the menu of the 13 EITs approved of by the OLC. The practice ended on Bush's watch; and its effectiveness as an EIT was essentially neutered when it became public knowledge. That's because part of the effectiveness of EITs was in the fact that they were largely a psychological, smoke-and-mirrors ploy to make an HVD's situation appear to be worse than it actually was. Keep in mind that the role of EITs wasn't to extract information. It wasn't to obtain confessions. The purpose was to induce a state of cooperation. HVDs weren't asked questions the interrogators didn't already know the answers to. Please re-listen toward the end of the interview as Mitchell offers his opinion on the efficacy of waterboarding and EITs. Read Ali Soufan's accounts in interviews and in his book. Then cross-examine that against Marc Thiessen's book. Jose Rodriguez' book. And most recently, Mike Morrell's book. Then piece together the puzzles and the timelines and guess as to whether or not the waterboarding of KSM and Zubaydah and al Nishiri or the EITs applied to 36 others out of 119 HVDs produced any useful information or actionable intell. There is a competing narrative regarding how much information was gleaned before FBI removed themselves from the interrogation of Zubaydah and what he gave up after EITs were applied. Both he and KSM were a treasure trove of information and by 2006, 2/3rds of what we knew about al Qaeda- how it trained, communicated, financed, etc.- were thanks to the CIA RDI Program, EIT or not.
I wonder what Mr. Mitchell's take is on the symmetrical collapse of building 7. I've noticed police call interrogation an "interview" and the military calls torture an "interrogation"
Why this guy isn't in jail for theft, war crime s says it all. What a koock. And this is were I tax dollars went. The "experts" we relied on. If you want to understand how we wasted $500,000,000 a day for 20 years here is exhibit A.
I think Mr. Mitchell needs more Water-boarding for his comment: "I don't think water-boarding is good, I don't think water-boarding is bad ..." - More water-boarding so he can make-up his mind! lol
Go to the Hague, go directly to the Hague to face war crimes charges, do not pass go...
"Enhanced interrogation techniques" is just another fancy phrase for "Torture".
Yeah if you’re a criminal
@@FreeOfWorryPsychopath, go listen what John Kiriaku actually got to say about it
You two had a heck of a little field trip together! Canoeing, grabbing a bite in town, chatting by the waterside... strong work as always, Vice.
*luke no luke no*
There's a documentary about 6 men who volunteer to experience what a Guantanamo prisoner may face and it's horrifying what they went through. 1 man had to step out because his temperature dropped dangerously low and 2 others couldn't take the abuse. All of this lasted only 48 hours.
I saw this this 2 men quit. It’s nothing compared to what was actually done. But a great video all the same.
@Caroline Fernandez It's called "Guantanamo Guidebook," which was aired in the UK in the mid 2000s. It would probably as controversial today as it was when it was released.
Now think about the innocent prisoners who are forced to experience it multiple times, everyday
see a film called "the Moroccan" .. just head swirling awful.
But they still left with their heads attached to their bodies, right? More than you can say if it were the other way around. These ppl are Savages. You have to treat them as such.
Thanks for doing a profesional interview with him and not attacking with questions, accusations and allegations. This was very well made.
you lot love non questions
There should be hardcore questions, accusations and allegations. Not at all well made... You can't be serious..
The man was as incompetent as they come, there should have been hard questions
Frankly I would've loved to hear him elaborate more on his jedi warrior comment. The interviewer seemed more concerned with waterboarding. Hardly the big picture.
JORDAN i feel the same way. Eventhough we can kind of read between the lines. It would have been enlighting to have had a more in depth breakdown by james.
Well, just look at the story of Luke Skywalker in vague terms.
This is the meme about him being a terrorist:
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There is very little to elaborate here. Remember any novel where an underdog hero has to face the great evil in order to save himself, his family, close group of friends or the entire world.
From their point of view, USA is that great evil. Understandably so, because actions of American politicans resulted in destibilization of the region, many deaths of _"their brothers and sisters" (in the cultural and religious sense of these words)_ and then left devastation behind.
***** It's been a long time since I watched the video but I think my comment had more to do with cia mind techniques.
Zedek LOL, this is why the western world is slow to react.
He does raise a good point about the collateral damage from hellfire strikes.
Yes, but the terrorist part is bullshit. If USA would not had troops in middle-east before 9/11 it would have not happened. Militant-islam where ok to USA when they where fighting against soviet union, and even back then they used suicide bommers again civilians, but later on not so when they took USA at target. What I´ve read the main reason for the attack in 9/11 acording to Al-Quida was USA troops on "holy land"
"That's not really true,"
"In conjunction with several other Islamic leaders, he issued two fatwas-in 1996 and then again in 1998-that Muslims should fight those that either support Israel or support Western military forces in Islamic countries, stating that those in that mindset are the enemy, including citizens from the United States and allied countries. "
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beliefs_and_ideology_of_Osama_bin_Laden
"You'll also feel a little sick as an American anytime someone tries to justify their stance."
I understand that, I feel little sick when any
of the killers tries to justify their stance.
Your government or it´s people that justify it´s policies, or the terrorist.
Read too much what your countries policies have done in history in other countries and also what kind of war al qaida and ISIS have fought. Your country is not the good guys in my point of view nor ISIS or Al Qaida..
All of you have and are killing innocent people in massive scale. I had hoped that Obama would have changed your foreign policy, but no; he was just an politician.
You created the system whit Pakistan to train muslims to be terrorist against Soviet Union when they where in Afganistan and funded and gave them weapons also so you have given money and weapons to suicide bombers who many times target civilians.
And now United States government is fighting against the same guys that where the good guys in Rambo III ;)
You created the system that terrorist use for training and making these terrorist attacks.
When I saw planes hit the twin towers in news, I was not surprised, . Before I would up the grand scale of things, I was thinking that where might the people that made this come from. South or middle america, Asia, Africa or Middle-East. If it would have been just one plain, it could be any of these areas, because you have been killing innocent civilians in all of them. But no, in the end it came out that you had created terrorist training systems that they where still using, and now using against you. And yes, I feel sorry for any civilians life who die, who had nothing to do whit anything, USA citizen or other.
***** I was not talking about the WWII, but Afganistan 1979-1989 war as the main reason for the nowadays terrorism and about USA actions in South America and Asia in the era of cold war, like putting to power people like Pinocetti, bombing of Cambodian people, Vietnam, supporting people like Siad Barre etc, companies like United Fruit Company that was backet by USA goverment and CIA etc.
"There's not a whole lot of countries I can think of without several ills."
I would say none. No country is with out ills. But very few bring up that they are for freedom or democracy when they do their shit. Almost all at least listens little bit of UN if they are not completely rogue state.
" I fail to see it as problem of the whole of the US."
Do you mean that you don´t see problems just to be USA made? If so, I don´t eather.
The most problems that flamed up to fights in the cold war, like in Asia, South and middle america, Middle-East and Africa where planted during the imperialistic era, and the poor people saw soviets as a chance to get away from oppression. That did happen, at least in south america, the middle class has grown and people most of the people are not so poor anymore.
"Anyway, if not for the US or Russia or the myriad of other actions taken in the past would you be here? "
In history, I prefer not to talk this what if conversation, because the route is not know.
It´s like what if Germany would have not been so humiliated after first world war, what if
Hitler would have had nice dad, what if he would got in the art school, what if German army would not had hired Hitler as a spy after WWI and not send him to listen DAP meeting because of that, what if american nazi`s would had not funded Hitler etc.
USA did not want to take part to WWII, but after Pearl Harbor, I think they did not have a choice.
"Anyway, if not for the US or Russia or the myriad of other actions taken in the past would you be here? "
Not sure, but as I see, US and Russia had no option to not take part to the war. Japan attacked USA and Germany attacked Soviet Union.
" More to that point though is what would've happened in your region if they hadn't taken such steps. "
Not sure, I´m from Finland and we in the same side whit Germany.
Finnish government wanted to take back the areas that we had lost during winter war 1939 - 1940 what Soviets started.
Some Finns, hard to find how many nowadays, even dreamed that after the war we would have some kind of Greater Finland whit Finno-Ugric tribes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland
still what I read, I´m not quite sure, Nazis did not necessarily think us a pure race, so maybe the gas chamber would have been the end of the line and even without that I think this way is better.
For me in any war there is no winning side. Bankers and rich people and ruling elite makes money from the poor mans skin.
Its disappointing to see many people in the comments deceived by his well rehearsed delivery of neocon war-crime apologist dogma developed for domestic social engineering by counterintelligence experts to deter accountability using every psychological weakness of humanity to poison critical thinking in as many as possible, to replace de facto reality with the fog of war, where we can waste our energy arguing with each other about which of his claims have merit, and which are counterfactual, while overlooking the logical fallacies applied to feign sincerity.
The reality of the war on terror is that the Intelligence agencies of America & its collaborators like Israel, the Saudis & UAE have been renditioning (rendering) any brown guy living somewhere that hasn't paid enough for "protection" who was unlucky enough to be turned in for cash rewards off to the nearest black site trying to look busy to keep their budget growing.
He will be tortured, not for actionable information, but because it brings sadistic joy to his captors.
His family will be killed by drone strike regardless, not because of any information obtained about a threat, but because the Air Force or CIA doesn't need to buy more million dollar missiles until they use the ones they already have!
That is actually a terrible point for a number of reasons.
Primarily, It is NOT true that people generally "agree that it is ok to use hellfire missiles on innocent civilians"
anyone here after seeing The Report?
How was he not asked about the Inspector General’s Report
"I don't recall exactly"
he knows he a criminal.
He was paid millions.
I'm disgusted
If I was a betting man, I'd put a bet that he enjoyed the torture
The book at 12:55 : "War by Other Means," 2014, CFR Council on Foreign Relations - Harvard published
2014? How ironic and how sad.
I wont defend Mitchell but the sheer panic, hysteria and uncontrolled rage that followed 9/11 almost guaranteed that US organisations tasked with preventing another attack were going to resort to any measure to achieve their goals, even if it meant breaking their own rules and ethics.
The Milgram experiment taught us how far ordinary people were willing to go to hurt others just because an authority figure told them to, now add the pressure of preventing a deadly terrorist attack that could kill your friends and family and it'll be a miracle if anyone's moral composure remained intact.
Its easy to sit back after 14 years of hindsight and mutter how horrible it was but frankly I was actually expecting the methods used to be far worse than what was detailed in the report. If anything I was surprised that only one inmate died from his mistreatment, in most other regimes the attrition rate would be FAR higher.
Regardless its essential that the US learns as much as it can from this dark part of its history so we can all put that very messy decade behind us and move on.
fludblud This is the only sensible and fair comment I've seen on here. I think I agree with about every word.
No one really knows how many actually died, or how many people were tortured, or how bad the torture was. , Its not like the report really told everything. The CIA could be withholding lots of information and evidence
And also the US uses extraordinary rendition, which is the the government sponsored abducting and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one country to another. And so when they transfer those people to other countries, those countries might not follow the law and do really bad things. They are taken to "black sites", 54 countries have participated in this. It is much worse than you would think. Much worse.
I agree with you. They had to do everything to protect the country. They could let that happen again and if it meant torturing people, so be it. I dont see a problem with the EIP. Mitchell made a good point. It's ok to send in a hellfire missile and kill the entire family, but it's not ok to to practice the EIP on people? Makes no sense.
Everything you said is just unrepentant misinformation, and outright bullshit.
We knew 14 years ago exactly what was going to happen with the PATRIOT act, it's not like everyone collectively lost their minds, they chose to hand over that power, even though everyone knew it would only lead to pointless atrocity.
You're making excuses for torturers.
This psychologist was using all his experience to tell Kaj exactly what he wanted Kaj to know. He was reading Kaj like a book, preparing a script and delivering it right before our eyes. The crying was orchestrated deception. I'm not saying Kaj was fooled but Mitchell was putting on a full court press with the deftness of an experienced knife fighter.
This guy is a psychopath. No sane, normal person would torture anyone for this amount of time. Days, weeks and months on end.. Force-feeding them by nasal tubes and enemas so they wouldn't die and then torture them some more...And they capitalize on it. It takes a vicious, cruel, callous person to do that. He should be locked up for what he did, and yet he's giving interviews and being listened to. Out in the open. Kayaking... Mad World.
@@monray03 Are you a child or a muslim? Because I promise you wouldnt feel that way if you saw your friends charred, splattered bodies splayed across a 30 yard section of the street in New York City in 2001. These animals that were tortured got off EASY.
He as a psychologist has a hippocratic oath to promote healing not torture people.
Well, Mengele was a Doctor as well.
He took no such oath. He has a PhD in psychology. He is not a medical doctor.
evil prevails when the good do nothing
Clearly evil prevailed.
They should just say evil prevails
Good insight
Evil prevails when some think they are the "good ones" and start doing evil in the name of good.
"you want to kill my friends, you want to kill my family, and you want to destroy my way of life, you have my full attention." War is two sides blinded by hate and anger. This has been explained well in multiple forms of medium. The same thing this man said about them they say about us. The second you no longer see your enemy as a human is the second you lose, and in this case, both sides are losing.
He never said they aren't human.
@@marsulgumapu2010 He didn't have to.
Wrong. You do better to dominate an adversary when you have no empathy for them. That’s war 101.
I like the line," But literally when you wanna kill my friends, and you wanna kill my family, and you wanna destroy my way of life, you've got my full attention."
this guy is callous! you can see it in his eyes. this interview got no relevant information at all.
I'm going to tell you guys something you won't believe but it is absolutely true. One of my uncles was in Guantanamo as part of his service in military. I was a child. My mother then died and we went to live with my mother's sister and my grandma. My uncle visited us time to time. Then my aunt started to punish us in ways you wouldn't believe someone is capable of to do to a child. Here I put the main forms of punishments she used to apply on us.
1. Force our heads under water in a tub.
2. Sleep deprivation combined with non stop excercises like jumping or squating.
3. Roll us on a blanket under the sun for ours.
4. Food deprivation for days.
5. Force us to carry buckets of water trough stairs, fully naked and barefoot.
6. Cold water baths outdoors.
7. Spanks on a chair with a branch or cables.
8. Forced us to beat each other on the mouth with closed fist.
9. Forced us to push each other heads underwater.
10. Forced us to drink jalapeño shakes.
11. Forced me to eat my own excrements.
12. Mouthwash with lemon juice after beat me in the mouth with closed fist.
I'm on therapy now. But when I heard of the CIA manual of torture and read their methods, something make click on my mind and I guess my uncle used to tell my aunt about what he knew about punishments and she used it on us.
I'm so sorry you went through that. I hope life has treated you kindly since and therapy has helped relieve some of your pain.
Was she arrested for the torture she put you through?
23:00
he talks like he worked as a volunteer who just wanted to serve his country, but in fact he was given $180 million contract (of which he was paid $81 million before the CIA cancel the contract).
He made a fortune because of 9\11 by leading a torture program that does not even work.
That guy should write a book then lock it up. So when he dies he can at least tell his story. I think not being able to talk is emotionally disturbing to him.
MadBrownBear He did write a book, it's called enhanced interrogation.
i'm sure the tens of millions of dollars he earned from torturing people who have never been charged with anything certainly help with this darling's "disturbing" emotions. www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/flat-wrong-big-bucks-torture-teacher-slams-cia-report-n265656
I’m sure he has a back up plan to his two other back up plans. He’s no dummy
I think having a compacted colon (ie being full of shit) can be emotionally disturbing too.
Aw is it? so sad im so sorry for him.. not. this is a man that works with torture..
The nazis were into waterboarding too! Also a lot of this psych stuff was being tested under mk-ultra and artichoke. This is NOT new
Yeah, but project Artichoke was about mind-controlling people to do assassinations. MKUltra on the other hand was used for different purposes like interrogations or mind-controlling leaders.
The people the nazis killed where innocent these people are not
They want to kill us they made 911
Kind of scary when they sat and had a good laugh about water boarding.
This guy is pure psychopath. I have to stop watching the clip after him proving it at least 10 times.
It’s so disturbing at how his psychopathic tendencies is and with the part with the alligator he’s crazy for sure laughing while talking about the torture
@@yotiyy I'd happily torture them animals too. Infact I'd tell all my friends having a party if i could. They deserve everything they got.
I feel like after watching this I am on some sort of list. LOL
He's a psychologist. He can convince you to believe his lies.
He has practiced for years on how people behave and how to use and abuse them
Well, psychologist, psychology is basically as scientific as astrology. He was as incompetent as they come.
Just proof that psychopaths can and do hold down important jobs. They seem perfectly normal, even charming and always particularly intelligent.
Psychopaths? Lmao
@@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068 uh ya he kinda tortured 119 innocent people lol would say that’s kinda psychopathic
@@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068 idiot
@@LynxyFPSinnocent lol
@@newyardleysinclair9960 Yes. Innocent.
You can hate the man or like the man but the interview was a solid piece of journalism.
Brilliant reporting! Thanx Vice, this is why I like your journalism.
Wow. This psychologist was playing a mind game with the interviewer, the boat ride to look at alligators and such was a mind tactic to put fear in the interviewer. This is incredibly fascinating stuff. Like something out of Hannibal Lector. INCREDIBLE!!!!!
This “psychologist” used little to no scientific principles in the design of his torture methods. Nonsense and pseudoscience. People in the comments focus on his “for my country” attitude, but tens of millions of dollars is a lot of money patriotism don’t you think? Innocent civilians were tortured to death using his methods. Now he gets to paddle around his manor for the rest of his life. Injustice
Any dude who hangs out around alligators to clear your mind says it all
He looks exactly like the old guy from the Saw movies. Does anyone else see it??? HOW IRONIC and creepy haha
You don't understand what irony is.
Thanks guys. Always looking out for me.
***** Donald Sutherland, father of the actor Kiefer Sutherland who plays the role of Jack Bauer on 24. A federal agent who works for Counter Terrorist Unit. And yes he interrogates/tortures terrorists to stop attacks. My all time favorite TV show, if you have never seen it beware because it is amazing and highly addicting.
This guy obviously had an axe to grind.he is just pissed that his innocent friend was killed by a muslim group.he was absolutely the worst person for that program because he has conflict of interest,that forces him to make emotional decisions.he couldn't even keep it together for the interview.
That's a very good point to make. It probably over simplifies the complexity that is this man and his work with the government but it does seem like he was highly motivated by emotional issues. I mean, if this interview is accurate at all, his reaction to remembering 9/11 is pretty scary for a man that could be potentially behind planning on how to deal with the people behind the attack. So much emotion.
Very good point
Doug Bongson Nothing he said wasn't true. So, what are you talking about.
No war has ever been won by being nice. It's dirty and messy and many innocent people suffer - sad but true.
I am not sure that we are even interested to win this war at all.
Brett Elkin it's not a winnable war, you Mook. it's a perpetual war machine since there is no real enemy. yes, there is a face (osama bin Laden, saddam) but they're gone and we're still at it
jermom phat read this guys book about enhanced interrogations. It is a winnable war. But not the way liberals want to fight it. And certainly not winnable if you offer constitutional rights to non US citizens.
jermom phat
it IS a winnable war. We just have to kill the Islam faith. Jihadists get their ideas from Islam. So no Islam = no Jihad.
This is the truth most hypocritical liberals doesn't understand.
Can we just acknowledge that fact that the journalist volunteered to get waterboarded! thats fucking nuts man!
Only if you can't be calm, and hold your breath for a minimum of two minutes. Something ever human is capable of by age twelve.
Benjamine Franklin Oh sweet you can hold your breath for 2 minutes?
Yep. On a backboard, strapped down, and gagged with a wet rag over my nose. Even throw in the backwards incline, and I could do it, all day long. And talk mad shit to the retards trying to torture me. I would be the torture, not them. My mind is stronger than my will to breathe. All it takes is training, and also being able to swim for at least five miles in Salt water. Then float, relax, and keep swimming. I guess you have never known about self control? Biofeedback? Controlling your heart-rate, ignoring a little pain? Maybe I am just one of those people that looks ahead more than a month or two.
Not all Navy Seals get SERE Training. Only Military personnel that could find themselves alone behind enemy lines are given this training. The only mission at that point is to evade capture, survive, and be rescued. If you fail to do so, a gun is provided to end the mission.
Roberto Vasquez
Yeah and that's all the proof you need to know that getting water poured on your face isn't torture.
This Mitchell guy really thinks he is the on the good side and working for a good purpose. Is he that blind and brainwashed??!
yes
Anyone get the feeling that he'll end up getting disappeared when he's out kayaking by himself? Those alligators look like they could get devour a body in seconds.
He’ll shoot himself in the back of the head...twice
Waterboarding was considered torture in Vietnam…so I am busting Mitchell’s lie right there…
This guy's ego seems blatant. Some paraphrased quotes, in order:
"I find kayaking with alligators to be a sign of intelligence."
"I wish I could talk about Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (EITs), but I can't because I signed an NDA."
"I would be shocked if those techniques yielded anything actionable."
"I'm not trying to imply that it's me (after rather convincingly having implied that it was him)."
"Most of my library is about understanding Islam, specifically fundamentalism, because they killed my friend; if you try to destroy my friends, my family, my way of life, you have my full attention."
"Waterboarding wasn't illegal from 2002 to 2006; I don't think it's right or wrong. You can overuse it, you can underuse it."
"I feel bad that ISIS's hostages were waterboarded. I really do. But the ones primarily responsible for that are the media because those programs were classified, and the media were the ones who spread it around and made it public."
And the biggest one (while he was crying, mind you): "What he said was, 'if you're not willing to do it, how can we ask anybody else?'"
Hold on just a second there sir. You said he was crying when I didn't see nary a single tear after straining himself for about 10 seconds. Also his voice never shook one time except when he said " All those people that died for nO reason!" Me, personally, I think this man could have been just as good in Apocalypse Now as Martin Sheen was. Really not a bad actor at all. I mean, crying is hard after all.
This was actually a fairly objective interview. Well done. Also, I just want to point out that when we hear that it cost our government $40 million to investigate anything that happened within it's own facilities, that kind of bulls#!t is a mockery in our faces of our chosen and voluntary propensity to ignore all logical indicators that we do not believe it cost $100 in real time.
there was a lot more wasted in a pointless war
12:40 this guy's office is boss. It looks straight out of Indiana Jones xD
Well this is what I call good journalism. You guys rock!
This 'man' is an absolute monster.
"Wow you torture? Let's have lunch"
I mean, Kaj was is a former navy seal. I'm sure he's met plenty of spooks in his day.
17:23 The program being classified is not an excuse. You shouldn't depend on classification to defend yourself from being held accountable for shitty behavior. Exposing the truth is literally the media's job. Classification should be protecting operational information such as troop movements and capabilities, where the president sleeps, etc., not to hide the fact that you were torturing people.
pure evil, hope someone gets this guy and have him taste his inventions
Of course, the narcissist cries at the end of this interview…he is such a good actor…where are the tears?
Makes you think how Far off is CIA from Gestapo...
Actually MUCH worse :-(((
JB Cheema you haven’t seen the methods our GRU and FSB guys use :D
It and the FBI trained the Gestapo/SBU. That's all.
I have a B.A. in psych. it doesn't take a genius to tell you that this man is a textbook sociopath.
A sadistic psychopath- like his darling Zelensky.
You'll never get real information from torturing what you'll get is a bunch of lies and whatever they can say to make it stop they will say
To torture another human this guy is such a loser!!! Put him in jail and whoever CIA agent that hired him
Back when Vice News was actually a credible source of journalism.
If you have to waterboard someone like KSM 183 times, that means its not working. If it worked they'd have to waterboarded him one or two times. But it didn't work, so they kept doing it. Duh.
Or it just means that everyone has a breaking point, its just a matter of finding it. In KSMs case that was 183 times. If the intel he was sitting on was so valuable and still
relevant (clues to the location of OBL) then I guess it is worth it and justified to get that info.
The hairs raised on my spine for some reason when I watched this. I got scared for the interviewer.
+Gee Jackson It is probably because of the ominous location.A lake,absolutely secluded from the outside world and surrounded with alligators?Seems like the perfect place to dump a body.
If you have compassion for individuals that slaughtered Americans, consider yourself lucky to have a true patriot like James, not our politically correct l leaders for whom the seat is above nation!!,
No wonder: Mitchell's a perverted sociopath who misappropriated his field for the purposes of actualizing some dark fantasies at the behest of "protecting Americans".
Truest deepest thing he said completely over most heads “ we must have a program that I don’t know about “
This man deserves life sentence in a secret taliban prison. That would be the only genouine Justice to pay for his infamy
VICE News met up with James Mitchell in suburban Florida to discuss the Senate's report and one of the darkest chapters of the war on terror. This is the first time Mitchell has ever appeared on camera.
Read “What $300 Million Bought the CIA's 'Detention and Interrogation’ Program” - bit.ly/1Byh30p
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Lester Tan
Dafuck?
***** If you watch the video, he has had a career in higher level Armed Forces in the U.S. before 2001
***** $81 million was what his "company" was paid out of US taxpayer funds. He denies it but the accounting is there.
Fucking amazing 25 minutes. You guys have a kick ass channel.
Do we really believe that our enemies will stop torturing our captured people simply if we stop? These people have no sense of morality (sometimes literally as actual psychopaths), are limited by no laws and view us as less than human. I am not saying this as a defence of torture, but merely to argue the idiocy of this assumption. Even if we are to believe torture can sometimes be useful, it is still not reliable enough to excuse its immoral nature. In the dark reality of the real world, sometimes we have to make hard choices, and we should do this by balancing ethics with the greater good. The only time I would say this rule would be nullified is in the case of intentionally killing civilians. This, to me, is never acceptable. The problem with the West is that people who have never seen the horror of the real world, who live in relative comfort because of the people who sacrifice themselves in that world, want to judge everyone and everything as if they know everything, while they themselves can never be judged in return.
Yes. I think a lot of people would not hate the West of there was no guantanamo-pictures or a global drone war. Most of them are not from Arab Countries but from weithin our own societies. It is racism, Ghettos, seeing people like them are being tortured for years without explanation what causes them to resist. And They do it With in the same traumatized, aggressive way, the US did and do to half the Arab World. Torturing will always fuel Terrorism. Period.
0:11 Also works if you are looking to become a dungeon master.
Why is this disgusting human being treated like some sort of hero? It takes a very special character to experience what he experienced without vomiting, crying and fainting. I would not shake this man's hand with a fireproof glove on. He makes me sick.
thank you. someone finally said it.
This guy is still alive and walking around?! How disappointing and shameful.
NOPE. STONE COLD BUSTED. THIS INTERVIEW WAS EVIDENCE IN THE CASE BROUGHT AGAINST HIM. VICE NEWS GOT CRUSHED. NOW THEY ARE COINTELLAMATEURS.
This is a brilliant man. And i say a good man. Judge all you want.
gkarjala hes a patriotic man. doing things many could argue are immoral bc of deaths in 911
but also a scary guy
gkarjala 22:45 to 23:40 nice man
If he doent like you because youre bad person, maybe you should be scared. He's a good man i say.
You have no autonomy on what is good and bad^ You are in no porsition to udge people on the other side of the globe.
Sickening.
I'm an Englishman and in the elephant and castle when 9/11 happened, the whole pub fell silent and people started crying. If I thought that doing what this man did could help in the retribution of that horrendous act by just 1% I would have. And now the nation he loves are deserting him. That's gratitude for being a true patriot.
DedSec many things caused 9/11, most of which were our doing. And everything we have done since then has caused further crisis around the globe.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Canadian here, and agreed! A lot of the haters are likely a loud minority.
What if you learned that 911 was an inside job.... Then you would be in the wrong.
@@MistaBrown420 I don't know what you mean by what if; it's kind of a known fact that at the very least the official narrative is heavily altered by our government. I won't say it's an "inside job", but at the very least they are complicit due to willful ignorance; in all likelihood it goes much further than that.
As I said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and judging the man's intent is pure speculation.
I get the Englishman's patriotism; really, I do. But that patriotism can blind people. It can cause them to blame the effects rather than digging for what caused the effect in a rage, and it has consequences. Everything has consequences, no matter how good of a reason you did it for.
It is only hatred because he is a Straight White Male.
No wonder he chills with aligators😂
Waterboarding is the closest you will ever get to death until you die.
id rather get waterboarded than get my head cut off...just saying
We can arrange that.
If it's water boarding to death then I would rather choose the head chopping.
Go Hizle
I assume you've been waterboarded to know this. Otherwise what reasons do we have to believe you?
If someone wanted to kill you with waterboarding they could. Just because it doesn't happen doesn't mean it _can't_ happen.
Done right, waterboarding won't give the body sufficient oxygen intake and if this were to pass for a long period of time.....
...Well, I'll let you look up what happens if you can't breathe.
+Go Hizle You're 100% wrong. The other guy interviewed in this segment, Margolese, he's Zubaydah's lawyer, he gave an interview to Scott Horton, and in it he said that when they were waterboarding him they discussed what to do with him in case he dies. So yeah, you can die, and not only can you die but you can die even if they're not trying to kill you. As if that's not obvious.
it says alot when he believes the alligators are more afraid of him than he is of them; shows a lot about how great of a "psychologist" is, and shows how a showman like he is can leave a sick, dark mark on our government with smooth talk.
What? This comment makes 0 sense
I wonder if the lawyer representing Abu feels any sort of remorse or disgust for representing a terrorist. Then again, he probably wasn't personally affected by their actions in 9/11.....
9/11 never happened because of religion, it happened because the US invaded afghanistan, killed children and teared families apart. osama bin laden said it himself, it happened for the people being killed as a revenge
The 9/11 attack was a second try after the 1993 World Trade Center bombings failed to cause the collapse.
Stephen Allen It was not intended to. Islamic terrorists attacked the world trade center in 1993. That is way before the US went to Afghanistan.
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Dude's clearly a sociopath. Glad he works for America.
great interview! great info!
Damn..even the gators are afraid of this guy.
when you look at the guy, you can see there is some kind of anger and that's not his fault, imo that what war is about. until every party stop to force whatever they think are right to do to other, war will never stop.
I think you're identifying an inquisitive, analytical mind. People always think I'm very angry or upset because of my facial expression but in reality it's just the way I look when I am deep in thought or analyzing an idea.
achmad achmad you could drone your way to a Nobel peace prize, Truth is stranger than fiction. These days antiwar liberals love their drone program.
Maybe he's comfortable because he's with his kind.
@@kristinmeyer489 government and military and corporations are full of these guys. Always choosing the lesser of two evils in their eyes. I mean just watch Apocalypse Now he's very much like Sheens or Brandos character. Life long military company man.
who selected the music for this interview and how much, I wonder, does it affect our perception?
17:15 - "I think the primary responsibility for that lies with the media"
17:45 - "I didn't say all of the fault"
17:50 - "I think it's shared; I think it's 50/50"
This guy is such a prick.
It's amazing how a person can justify anything to themselves. He knows it doesn't work. Yet he desperately wants to be justified in what he did. That cognitive dissonance is killing him. He's full of shit.
exactly this.
Read his book Enchanced Interrogation. Very eye opening and demonstrates how media has twisted what this man was asked to do.
Just gonna say that there is confirmation that the pseudonyms used for the “contractors” were in fact Mitchell and Jessen. This guy is sick
look how sweaty this guys arm pits are @ 15:42 LOL
Very good interview.
_"If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts."_ - *George H.W. Bush*
That was in relation to Iran-Contra, had nothing to do with waterboarding, torture, or interrogation. Not to mention the fact that he never actually said that.
@@chrisfleischmann1346 actually, he did. Sarah McClendon interview, 1992
@@skindianu provide a link to this interview. Sarah McClendon published her interviews and this has never surfaced. No one can find proof of this. It has been debunked time and again.
@@chrisfleischmann1346 I can't get the link to paste, but, there is an interview with an Iran/contra insider. Regardless of some sites that claim the quote as false, I would believe someone who was there. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but the fact is, nobody has done a fuckin thing about it anyway. I don't believe the narrative when written by those who were supposed to be held accountable for all the shitty things they did. Instead, they're washed clean and even pardoned by those involved. The man who gave the interview, quoting Bush is Lt. Commander Alexander Martin (retired).
@@skindianu so heresay. And the woman to whom Bush supposedly said it has never published it despite the claims that it was aired and published. Sorry, not buying it. Don't disagree with your other statements, but can't get on board with him saying that in an on the record interview.
I feel like kaj Larson is one of the only decent reporters still left in vice
That burger looks some good
What about the CIA report that said that torture doesn't work?
U.S Law is the U.S Constitution period not "whatever it is at the time"!
I thought EIT was started under the MK-Ultra program in the 1970's
The main issue I wish to address is whether water boarding is torture. Mitchell is not qualified to have an opinion. Dick Cheney is also not entitled. No one can know that unless they've been there. I went through SERE school in San Diego in 1974, and was water boarded twice. On my first trip I confessed to having sex with my mother. The second time I admitted to having a threesome with mom and a sheep (they knew I grew up in Montana).I would confess to anything while being tortured. They trained us that resistance was nearly impossible, nearly everyone breaks down (except the UDT Seals, but that is another story). If they had threatened me with another go round I would have called mom and asked to bring a sheep. I don't know if it is effective, but I know it is torture. ,
Emery Smith ,
I respect your opinion on the matter and your personal experience with it.
The CIA interrogators who were trained to waterboard were required to be waterboarded themselves so that they understood intimately the severity of the technique. James Mitchell himself had experienced it (if you listen toward the end of this very interview, he makes mention of it).
I've heard from those who have received SERE training express split opinion on the issue. It isn't unanimous. Everyone seems to have a personal opinion on what constitutes the definition of "torture"- and it varies from person to person.
Only 3 HVTs were waterboarded. KSM was the last one, in 2003. Rumsfeld specifically did not sign off on waterboarding as a category III EIT, deeming it to be inappropriate for military interrogators. The CIA's role is different.
BY 2005, waterboarding was essentially off the menu of the 13 EITs approved of by the OLC. The practice ended on Bush's watch; and its effectiveness as an EIT was essentially neutered when it became public knowledge. That's because part of the effectiveness of EITs was in the fact that they were largely a psychological, smoke-and-mirrors ploy to make an HVD's situation appear to be worse than it actually was.
Keep in mind that the role of EITs wasn't to extract information. It wasn't to obtain confessions. The purpose was to induce a state of cooperation. HVDs weren't asked questions the interrogators didn't already know the answers to. Please re-listen toward the end of the interview as Mitchell offers his opinion on the efficacy of waterboarding and EITs.
Read Ali Soufan's accounts in interviews and in his book. Then cross-examine that against Marc Thiessen's book. Jose Rodriguez' book. And most recently, Mike Morrell's book. Then piece together the puzzles and the timelines and guess as to whether or not the waterboarding of KSM and Zubaydah and al Nishiri or the EITs applied to 36 others out of 119 HVDs produced any useful information or actionable intell. There is a competing narrative regarding how much information was gleaned before FBI removed themselves from the interrogation of Zubaydah and what he gave up after EITs were applied. Both he and KSM were a treasure trove of information and by 2006, 2/3rds of what we knew about al Qaeda- how it trained, communicated, financed, etc.- were thanks to the CIA RDI Program, EIT or not.
Bullshit. By 2006, PALANTIR made hum-int cave-man tech.
15:42 man, those are some impressive sweaty pits my dude.
Never trust somebody who feels at home in an alligator infested pond.
Great reporting.
lots of false information is given when a person is under that type of stress and torture... you will say anything
Especially if you have no connection.
I wonder what Mr. Mitchell's take is on the symmetrical collapse of building 7. I've noticed police call interrogation an "interview" and the military calls torture an "interrogation"
12:01 "the edge of the world" am i trippin or
Only concrete thing i took away from that was: don't trust wikipedia.
Why this guy isn't in jail for theft, war crime s says it all. What a koock. And this is were I tax dollars went. The "experts" we relied on. If you want to understand how we wasted $500,000,000 a day for 20 years here is exhibit A.
thank you and all armed forces for everything you've done and do for freedom for me and the rest of the world.....do whatever it takes
Thanks for a reasonably balanced presentation.
So that's the kind of private lakeside mansion torture will buy you?
I think Mr. Mitchell needs more Water-boarding for his comment: "I don't think water-boarding is good, I don't think water-boarding is bad ..." - More water-boarding so he can make-up his mind! lol
I have no issue with water boarding killers. Sorry. My humanity went out the window when planes full of innocents were murdered