Modern NASCAR’s Most Cheating Team

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  • Michael Waltrip is one of the best personalities in NASCAR. He also is one of the most popular personalities in NASCAR as well. But what many tend to omit from his legacy in NASCAR is that his team was not only the subject of one major cheating scandal but two. This is about Michael Waltrip Racing. This is modern NASCAR’s most cheating team.
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  • @TheIceberg
    @TheIceberg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    What to you is the legacy of Michael Waltrip Racing?

    • @hehe-IgoBRRRR
      @hehe-IgoBRRRR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Interesting

    • @ericmarchesini4883
      @ericmarchesini4883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      2007 Speedweeks and 2013 Spingate

    • @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
      @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The team Clint Bowyer nearly won the championship with.

    • @prototype-2x438
      @prototype-2x438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They’re known for spin gate

    • @Nah_IdLose
      @Nah_IdLose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Spingate 2013
      Finishing 2nd in the standings in 2012 with Clint Bowyer
      Going from an Underfunded joke into a Competitive Toyota team(until Spingate happened)
      2007 Speedweeks

  • @guitarsANDcars39
    @guitarsANDcars39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    "If your car ain't illegal coming off the line, your crew chief isn't trying hard enough."
    - Dale Jr

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's like Senna saying if you don't go for a gap that exists but in a more technical way...

    • @joeyjohnson4826
      @joeyjohnson4826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@s21b0b lol if you do not go for the gap you are no longer a racecar driver... after senna intentionally wrecked Alan prost for the world championship.... aryton 😁 GOAT

    • @Bitterman5868
      @Bitterman5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joeyjohnson4826 ANd this is why Nascar and F1 was good with the Waltrips, DEI and jeff
      at least the spirit lives on at the iRacing stuff

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Bitterman5868 and then there's Maldonado, who makes the gap himself, even in F1

    • @williamfugere8816
      @williamfugere8816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@truedarklander nah Maldonado just sends it into any car

  • @andrewwinslow9315
    @andrewwinslow9315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Rule 1 of cheating is don't get caught. MWR cheated so poorly, they got caught immediately. That is an accomplishment when it comes to cheating, being caught in the act.

    • @Ciborium
      @Ciborium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I posit that the "cheating" was so poorly done, plus the animosity toward Toyota's introduction, that it has to be sabotage.

    • @jaketanner20001
      @jaketanner20001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Karma

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly I feel that there is some back door NASCAR politics. Plenty of good ol boys cheat and help their team Ted every race. But NASCAR always seems to turn a blind eye to specific teams and burn others for everything.

    • @klk1900
      @klk1900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are completely off just like everybody else. It was not a orchestrated deal. Ty Norris was talking to one driver trying to get him to pit while a whole different thing was going on with bowyer it was 2 separate incidents and for two different reasons. It was not what the media lied and said. Every team in nascar was doing it. Ty Norris said a Hendricks car kept faking mechanical problems on the track to manipulate the race. Bowyer and his spotter and ty and the driver he told to pit it was not related at all. It was a crucial point in the race and so it happened at the same time along with 3 other teams faked stuff simultaneously as the mwr incident. It was every team in nascar doing it. But because they ran two radio loops together it made it appear they were on the same radio doing it. The reality ty Norris had no clue what bowyers spotter was telling him to do. Ty did tell the one to pit to do something with a lap. But they got thrown to the wolves when literally 4 teams did the same thing as them during this race but the media or someone covered it up.

    • @brianclubworldwide5751
      @brianclubworldwide5751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah Rule 1 of cheating now is to just do it with NASCAR's favortism. Its blanant. Just look at Chase Elliott the past few weeks.

  • @bluecup1129
    @bluecup1129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    “Nascars most cheating team”
    Anyone who has watch S1APShoes: *Ok so every team could make this video*

    • @TheIceberg
      @TheIceberg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      *Modern, and I prefaced that they aren’t the best due to being caught lol

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Didn't Joe Gibbs or somebody else have a Flexible rear part right before the rear spoiler at Talladega the first year they had the car spoiler reduced to 50% of the year before in 2010's, the NASCAR people had to fix this and make the spoiler bigger for the superspeedways and then bigger due to Talladega.
      If Talladega were removed from all racing on at least the big oval and forced to race the road course, there would be no loss for me as all almost all racing wants to have the big wreak at Talladega superspeedway. Then remove the non road track part and move grandstands around to fit the new designed track.

    • @cadenchristiansen3553
      @cadenchristiansen3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@caseysmith544 yea hass did that

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cadenchristiansen3553 Okay I was not really watching that year at Superspeedways due to the low downforce being removed for the year prior and that year the incident happened. I just know a team did that in 2010's sometime. Also do not really watch Talladega much now due to basically the track waiting for the big wreak and being a big line of cars stuck in one train.

    • @cadenchristiansen3553
      @cadenchristiansen3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caseysmith544 talledega is not really the train anymore also yea there are big crashes but the finishes always pay off with amazing photo finishes

  • @RoxChaseDi9
    @RoxChaseDi9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Clint bowyer: Michael waltrip Is the worst driver.
    4 years later. Bowyer joins MWR

    • @realbaron5714
      @realbaron5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      1 year later: The Spingate occurs and Bowyer's career start to decline.

    • @Weezy10580
      @Weezy10580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And he’s still the worst driver of my lifetime with a career in elite to mid tier cars

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      told the truth.

  • @hendomac20
    @hendomac20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Dale Jr desperately trying not to say he cheated on live TV though

    • @sillygoose2508
      @sillygoose2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He did say that was crazy

    • @mojo6605
      @mojo6605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very diplomatic lol

    • @cjr1881
      @cjr1881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though what?!

    • @hendomac20
      @hendomac20 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cjr1881 tbh Idk why I wrote "though" at the end of this comment.

    • @kishdogg1594
      @kishdogg1594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you aint cheatin you aint tryin

  • @JesusGonzalez-ki8gb
    @JesusGonzalez-ki8gb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    That dale jr interview is golden😂

    • @travisshort7929
      @travisshort7929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah too bad he wasn't as talented as a driver than he was a talker but either way it was Soo funny

    • @terryduncan5718
      @terryduncan5718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@travisshort7929 Dale Jr was a very talented driver....you go out and try to race Mr smartypants

    • @deelowe3
      @deelowe3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@travisshort7929 He was talented, but had major medical issues. To hear what he was dealing with is scary. I can't believe he raced for so many seasons like that.

    • @jasonbowser5754
      @jasonbowser5754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@travisshort7929 little fact for ya. Out of all the NASCAR drivers ever to run a race, junior is 32nd all time in win. The best ever? Absolutely not. But very talented and only someone who either doesn’t know the history of NASCAR or someone who just hates him for no reason, would think otherwise.

    • @adampatterson5475
      @adampatterson5475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      2 time Bush champion, 2 time Daytona 500 champion, 5 straight wins a Talladega. Yeah every driver does that right,

  • @evannuh-koo-la4054
    @evannuh-koo-la4054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Michael Waltrip really gave birth to the say "Dem Cheatin Toyoters"

  • @doomusrlc
    @doomusrlc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Put it in perspective: Dave Blaney was the most successful Toyota driver in 2007.

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah Toyota in it’s first year was actually trash, kinda crazy how they’ve grown from then.

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@vanguardRailgun924 they didn't land any big team the first year, that was their biggest issue. Then Gibbs didn't want to play second fiddle in the Chevy camp to Hendrick so they changed. And here we are LOL

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vanguardRailgun924 however closest to a win in 2007 was actually Red Bull with Vickers. They hit the setup just right in the 600 and were one of the fastest cars that race, then he lost power steering. I felt so bad when that happened. Yea Blaney was 3rd at Talladega in the fall but Vickers' run in the 600 was more impressive.

    • @1USACitizen192
      @1USACitizen192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@doomusrlc Dave Blaney was a tremendous sprint car driver.

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1USACitizen192 yea just his Nascar stats are... lacking, to put it lightly, haha. I'm not denying his skills, just don't think he was suited to Nascar.

  • @davelikesbacon
    @davelikesbacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I think I'm more irritated about Kaufman creating the god awful Charter system than anything else

    • @Gucesarl
      @Gucesarl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Jacob Hendrickse creates no incentive for new teams to arrive at the sport, makes established teams secure of their spots and allows awful teams to have guaranteed spots if they have one charter (RWR as a example).
      The Charter system is just a way Kauffman found to get his money from MWR back after helping the team's demise.

    • @brucefrye8799
      @brucefrye8799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep just ask Ty Dillon

    • @tomdalfonzo9959
      @tomdalfonzo9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      NASCAR can get rid of the charter system any time they want to, but they won't for some reason.

    • @racefan7616
      @racefan7616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gucesarl charters offer guaranteed money to its holders, offering an incentive to new owners like Spire, 23XI, and Trackhouse

  • @LessGo7921
    @LessGo7921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    To this day, I find it incredibly ironic that Reutimann caused the caution that would begin the chain of events that led to Gordon ruining Bowyer’s chance at a title at Phoenix

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Oh don't start that with me! And this guy didn't even mention the related controversy where Joey Logano robbed Gordon of a Chase spot due to Penske and Front Row collaborating

    • @ToumapassarZEZOCA
      @ToumapassarZEZOCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you give a timeline? I've never heard of that

    • @drivin379
      @drivin379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mmmmmmm. Boyer team cheated caused him title I think

    • @emmettm7482
      @emmettm7482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ToumapassarZEZOCA the 2012 saga: Martinsville 2012 Spring, 6 laps remaining. Jeff Gordon is leading and Jimmie Johnson is second. David Reutimann, driving the 10 for Tommy Baldwin Racing, is having an engine go up in smoke. The problem is, if Reutimann goes behind the wall, a car will pass them and they will wind up being 36th in owner points for the next race. After bypassing the pits with an easy route in once or twice, the car gives out and stalls headed into turn 1. Caution flies. After Pit Stops, Gordon, Johnson, and Bowyer are the top 3. On the restart, Bowyer kamikazes, wrecking Gordon, Johnson, and himself, enabling Ryan Newman to slip by and win on the ensuing restart. Now, this win would have been a milestone for HMS, I think #200. Hendrick later stated he flew out executives to this race in case this momentous occasion would have happened. Gordon is livid, and puts it in the memory bank. After a few more brushes on track throughout the year, it all culminates at November Phoenix. Gordon, after Bowyer races him hard and cuts a tire down, has had enough. Under green, Gordon sandbags until the 15 comes around, making a right and wrecking himself, Bowyer, Logano, and Almirola. At the time before the incident, Bowyer was about 18-25 points back from Keselowski. After the race, Bowyer is down (I believe) 48 points. Ultimately, Brad wins the championship as Bowyer placed second, and Johnson blows a transmission, making Brad K the 2012 champion. So, indirectly, Reutimann sets off a chain event where Jeff Gordon removes Bowyer from championship contention. As a Gordon fan, I want to say Jeff did it because he was mad at Clint, not because he was trying to enable a 2 car showdown between Brad and Johnson, as one theory states. As to whether I think what Gordon did was right or wrong, I don’t know. As for a suspension? Well, Kenseth got suspended 3 races in 2015 for the same incident, when only Logano paid for it. So, regardless of my personal opinion, NASCAR was inconsistent in their rulings.

    • @MrPorsche91730
      @MrPorsche91730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@emmettm7482 wow. Crazy stuff. Sounds to me like Gordon did it on purpose. He loves Hendrick motorsports. I think he's taking over when Rick steps down

  • @wrongcheese
    @wrongcheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Everyone forgets that Clint Bowyer also lost all his points at the 2015 chase opener in chicagoland, for cheating

    • @the_elmeister
      @the_elmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that true? How?

    • @nachoalvarez7171
      @nachoalvarez7171 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually no, it was 25 points however he finished 19th, and that gave 25 points, it was a coincidence

  • @berryboiblast
    @berryboiblast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Actually the biggest story at the time of Richmond at night in 2013 was how awesome and sick Dale Jr’s goatee and sideburns looked. But sadly that was overshadowed by the spin gate😭

  • @JonathanGaeta
    @JonathanGaeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    This is what started the trend “dEm ChEeTeN tOyOdErS” but overall very interesting for MWR
    EDIT: This crap aged like milk. Honestly what they did to Kyle Busch, screw Toyota. Same with JGR. Long live RCR.

    • @jasonvogue4487
      @jasonvogue4487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They shouldn’t be in nascar, T0y0dErS are well built reliably cars, a Camry !! Wtf?? And now they’re doing Supra bodies, so I guess BMW is basically in.

    • @pzkpfw2310
      @pzkpfw2310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is weird how when Toyota’s are in the lead in the last few laps they seem to pull away from the field like their standing still

    • @jasonjgr8580
      @jasonjgr8580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonvogue4487 yea Toyota should be in nascar ,and so all other imported cars should be.

    • @cody6102
      @cody6102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jasonvogue4487 it’s about engineering and mechanics. NASCAR companies represent nothing the average consumer can purchase, this isn’t when nascar used actual stock cars. So it makes perfect sense.
      Toyota makes great engines. That’s very important. Take a look at their F1 team. Or the Lexus LFA. Toyota deserves to be there maybe more so than other companies.
      Plus the bodies of the cars are restricted heavily anyway, dimension and design wise.

    • @djretard
      @djretard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasonjgr8580 I would personally like dodge to be back instead of Toyota but I'm just a nostalgic fan lol. I don't watch nascar much anymore since my favorite driver Jeff gordon retired but I'm excited for the next gen cars for some reason

  • @Mike4k_
    @Mike4k_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    MWR was slowly becoming a powerhouse then spingate happened and that killed the team

    • @IrvinAlvarado44
      @IrvinAlvarado44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It not only killed this team but Toyota long term with seat issues and a gut of talent they have.

    • @crazybut6641
      @crazybut6641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But it sparked MTJ career

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IrvinAlvarado44 Yep until some teams Dropped Ford for Toyota or Doge left NASCAR entirely.

    • @IrvinAlvarado44
      @IrvinAlvarado44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@crazybut6641 true it did land him first Furniture Row then Gibbs but at same idea he may have done a stellar early playoff run at MWR run maybe a cup run in the team???? Oooooo

    • @carolynrogers5762
      @carolynrogers5762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Micheal Waltrip ----------------- Worst poker face ever

  • @DennyDeliversYT
    @DennyDeliversYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    MWR: *Cheats*
    Napa Auto Parts: *Eww cheating is gross... We go sponsor this Xfinity guy name Chase... hopefully we do better* lol

    • @zikalokof1challenge414
      @zikalokof1challenge414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @TNS1089 Calm down Chase fan, that was only a joke lol

    • @McMan82
      @McMan82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @TNS1089 yeah and he has 1.21k more subs that you. I wouldn’t call him a loser if I were in your shoes

    • @howie3601
      @howie3601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TNS1089 Dude, why're you being such a buzz kill?
      It's obviously a joke, just admit you're being grouchy. We all have bad days.

    • @Yoursel83
      @Yoursel83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TNS1089 F.O.D

    • @AnneBUZZTKO
      @AnneBUZZTKO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Now This Chase Guy Is A Cup Championship

  • @lumberc
    @lumberc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    MWR did s🅱️inalla before it was cool

    • @DL-nn1ws
      @DL-nn1ws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CertainlyCaro he turned extremely hard left at the 4th left hand corner he saw

    • @ariefpraditya5280
      @ariefpraditya5280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Mikey:pronto,clint
      Clint:yes mikey
      Mikey:s🅱innala
      Clint:why
      Mikey:truex isn't the chase yet,just s🅱in or your fired
      Clint:*sigh*fine

    • @HoshimachiNova
      @HoshimachiNova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Pronto 🅱️owyer? S🅱️innala.

    • @zikalokof1challenge414
      @zikalokof1challenge414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is 2 Ns, not 2 Ls

    • @DL-nn1ws
      @DL-nn1ws 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zikalokof1challenge414 It’s right

  • @millennialchicken
    @millennialchicken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Renault F1 in 2008: **spins**
    MWR in 2013 ''Hmmmm...''

    • @ariefpraditya5280
      @ariefpraditya5280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      S🅱ins

    • @sdewey4152
      @sdewey4152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My thoughts exactly, we need skeptics like this in F1 because it's stupid to think Alonso didn't know about it, I mean it's not like he's managed by the fired, disgraced and banned team leader as a manager...oh wait he did rofl.

    • @FMecha
      @FMecha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a reason Spingate was also called Singapore Sling for a while.

    • @PJMontoya
      @PJMontoya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If there wasn’t a plan already in place, Alonso would have refused to pit so early in the race or at least he would have questioned it strongly

    • @santiagomachado7378
      @santiagomachado7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sdewey4152 And incidentally, that cost Massa the 2008 title. I can't believe Renault are taking him in for a third fucking time. I can't even believe Ferrari took him in 2010 after having shafting them just two years prior

  • @RawGator
    @RawGator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    It would be interesting to see you make a video on the side skirt advantage from 2014. I wonder what your thoughts are on it, what team figured it out first, and how each team incorporated it with time.

  • @christianfehr8652
    @christianfehr8652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They can make this ruling but can't seem to figure out that damn double yellow line

  • @sirnickels9979
    @sirnickels9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The end of MWR helped give Truex jr the team he needed for his career. Chase got a sponsor to bring him into Nascar

  • @alanluscombe8a553
    @alanluscombe8a553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The look and way dale jr. Is talking, he knows what was up.

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dident want to be a rat.

    • @johnriggle5336
      @johnriggle5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dale jr should have brought that up when Clint was on his podcast?

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnriggle5336 yeah that would have been entertaining but not surprising they didnt talk about it im sure its not clints favorite subject lol.

    • @paulburgess1574
      @paulburgess1574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't Dale jr spln out on purpose at I think bristol before not to go a lap down or something like that

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulburgess1574 yep lol

  • @Saintbow
    @Saintbow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Nascar fans have a long memory"
    Meanwhile every NFL fan outside New England: "Spygate!!!" "Deflategate" "Something-gate" "Patriots cheated at practice today!" "Brady had pasta today! PastaGate!"

  • @MrJoe1129uscg
    @MrJoe1129uscg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    JGR has had their moments....I seem to remember a 100lb oil pan and several other incidents.

    • @kylebuschhasover200winsinn5
      @kylebuschhasover200winsinn5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Strange how NASCAR said nothing about it, considering they hate JGR.

    • @realbaron5714
      @realbaron5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talladega and Martinsville this year.

  • @PlayStation_5247
    @PlayStation_5247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Let's also not forget the term "Turboyota" and the fact that the "jet fuel" used in Waltrip's car turned out to be more like rocket fuel

    • @RSDX99
      @RSDX99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You do know that Jet fuel is Kerosene? Try that in your car and see what happens.

    • @charleswinters7129
      @charleswinters7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jet fuel would slow it down.

    • @Diesel257
      @Diesel257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes guys, that was his point. Read. Comprehend. Post. In that order.

    • @adamdube2062
      @adamdube2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep high sulfur deisle

    • @roneddington7564
      @roneddington7564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was more like Sterno.

  • @martinhenderson1359
    @martinhenderson1359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Innovating” is when you don’t get caught. Cheating is when you get caught.

  • @realbaron5714
    @realbaron5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And another funny fact: Brian Vickers he was on two toyota teams with great potential and the two teams closed.

  • @mathieuwatkinsa9668
    @mathieuwatkinsa9668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Them cheating Toyoters

  • @harrisjessop1679
    @harrisjessop1679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well when Bowyer gets into the announcers booth fulltime this year we have plenty of things we can ask him about via twitter during rain delays.

  • @Ozark-nq9uu
    @Ozark-nq9uu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You never spin yourself out, you always spin someone else out.

    • @rogueranger7989
      @rogueranger7989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rubbing IS Racing 😂

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      JR. Forgot that 1 also...

  • @dngnascar
    @dngnascar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I honestly expected JGR but this makes more sense

  • @daleprokop1268
    @daleprokop1268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lol jr “craziest thing I ever saw”

  • @brianglennon6657
    @brianglennon6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    According to one of S1ap's videos what was in the intake in 2007 wasn't jet fuel the chemical compound was much more similar to rocket fuel

    • @DV1287
      @DV1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @Fandom_Junkie
      @Fandom_Junkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Either way it shouldn't be in a car

    • @nothanksguy
      @nothanksguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fandom_Junkie not in a cup car at least haha. Who knows if it was some drag racing power adder compound lol

    • @inmate666
      @inmate666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was sterno camping fuel.coat the inside of intake or breather with it and it'll slowly dissolve and hopefully be gone by the end of the race.

  • @baitbustersfishingoutdoors4709
    @baitbustersfishingoutdoors4709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Nascar fans in 2007: "THEM CHEATIN' TOYOTERS'!!"
    Nascar fans in 2020: "THEM CHEATIN' TOYOTERS'!!"

    • @GothdaddyEG
      @GothdaddyEG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      CHEATER
      CHEATER!
      Toyota cheater
      You know what I hate
      This is a parody of the little caesars cheeser cheeser commerical

    • @jamex98
      @jamex98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dodge: ill just put my middle finger for all u...fu** u Toyota

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol what fans?

  • @tritontransport
    @tritontransport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He’s always been a shady guy . We still don’t know if he was drunk or on drugs when he was walking home in socks and his vehicle flipped on its side in some ditch on a county road 🤔. The only thing that kept him driving half assed in nascar for so long was his ability to sell ice cubes to eskimos

    • @khaoticpenguin3945
      @khaoticpenguin3945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he had some kind of manager for everything, he would have been a dominant figure in nascar.

  • @marknoble5495
    @marknoble5495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting to see Ray Evernham admit MWR cheated. He helped get Jeremy Mayfield blackballed for public accusations of him cheating...

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be frank, it was so blatantly obvious that it would have been impossible to defend that in anyway regardless of whoever it was. You already had one of the commentators (ironically himself a former MWR driver) pointing out how Dale Jr's car didn't touch him, then Jr himself further confirming he didn't get into the car (His tone was hilariously sarcastic as if he knew what was going on), and then Rusty not wasting anytime in saying that looked suspicious.

  • @stanhelsing4995
    @stanhelsing4995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seriously, how many times did Johnson 48 get caught cheating

    • @chrispennington6890
      @chrispennington6890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not near what you're acting like he got caught cheating there was a handful incidence that weren't proven the one where he told Jimmy if he won the race to knock the back of the car out Jimmy Johnson was a great driver he was the man

    • @stanhelsing4995
      @stanhelsing4995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrispennington6890 opinions do very

  • @gavanbaxley
    @gavanbaxley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:30 that crap looks like a scene from Cars 😂

  • @brycemarshall1755
    @brycemarshall1755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Forgot to mention the trackbar incident with Roush Racing at Martinsville in 2008 where the team "mysteriously" ended up with one of the Roush trackbars in their pit at the conclusion and teardown after the race was over.

  • @RebelTXWrestling
    @RebelTXWrestling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Them cheating Toyotas" also came from previous series before going into NASCAR. In Formula 1 they used data stolen from Ferrari F2003 for TF104 car. Despite building a Ferrari clone (F2003 was super successful) it still bombed in the F1. In CART/Champ Car look up "pop off valve controversy" from Detroit Grand Prix race. It lead start of Honda of leaving the series and jumping to rival Indycar. Toyota thank CART/Champ Car by defecting to Indycar as well.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honda is not owned by Toyota. Other then this yeah the info is right and both Japanese teams jumped ship to Indy car. CART/Champ Car is dead now anyhow or at most a very very small official race series.

    • @theflagstand
      @theflagstand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caseysmith544 I mean the series that now uses the name Champ Car is anything but dead.

    • @GreenTheGrape
      @GreenTheGrape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also their Celica rally car which had a "legit" air restrictor

    • @FMecha
      @FMecha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GreenTheGrape They also pretended the fuel tank was a luggage spot for the GT-One - although that was a case of homologation special wars in 90s GT1.

  • @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81
    @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    If Michael Waltrip didn't cheat with his team, one of his car's could've won a championship and more races

    • @noahhall5211
      @noahhall5211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at phoniex 2012 jeff gordon

    • @michaelwaltrip4414
      @michaelwaltrip4414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uke Kid bowyers fault

    • @DupontandLowesWarrior
      @DupontandLowesWarrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      43 Car Field

    • @noahhall5211
      @noahhall5211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@b.d.cooper8671 facts

    • @drivin379
      @drivin379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You do realize every team cheats or bends rules lil bit ...hell first nascar strictly stock division race and winner was a cheater with heavy duty springs ....smokey used 7/8 scale nova after Chevrolet pulled out.....teams use..used lead shot to spill out during the race ....they run 380ci 400ci motors but yet when inspectors poured cylinders they got 358ci.....soooooooooo we all cheat its racing its our DNA to push it to limit

  • @raginOKCTHUNDER
    @raginOKCTHUNDER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like Michael, but damn was that ever a shady race team

  • @whatincarnation95
    @whatincarnation95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "COME ON MAN" - Darrell Waltrip

  • @EstebanRapido
    @EstebanRapido 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    4:40 "Michael waltrip is the worst driver in NASCAR period" Uh, the five car cut right across his bumper.

    • @WOLF-tw7nx
      @WOLF-tw7nx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgot about Danica Patrick

  • @HighLiner15
    @HighLiner15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sissy Mikey isn't a washed up driver, He's a Never was driver!
    Btw at Daytona they smeared STERNO on the inside of the Intake Manifold. Which is basically gelatin Alcohol/Methanol which makes more power than Gasoline ⛽

  • @MrUltraworld
    @MrUltraworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MW pissed on his legacy. The "nicest guy" in NASCAR image shot to pieces. He turned out to be a prick who would do anything to win including gambling with hundreds of people's livelihoods.

  • @frevazz3364
    @frevazz3364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You wonder if this had not happened would MWR be a top team like Gibbs, Hendrick, etc. to this day. Yes but I feel Mikey would have figured out a way to screw it up eventually. And Truex, went from unluckiest guy, on his way out of the sport to champion, remarkable comeback.

  • @mikecaskey357
    @mikecaskey357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Michael's legacy be winning the 500

    • @Diesel257
      @Diesel257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately that's only half the sentence.

  • @benlappin
    @benlappin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”

  • @fishproductions22
    @fishproductions22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "My team is so bad that we need to use jet fuel in our race cars"

  • @dcscott0602
    @dcscott0602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The team was put on the map with one cheating scandal and removed from it with the other.

  • @dylanhale7300
    @dylanhale7300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man... if your going to spin out on purpose, why not complain about a vibration or something? If Clint would have waited 3 or 4 laps and complained about picking up a vibration and maybe spinning coming to pit lane... no one would have known.
    If your going to cheat, you have to be good at it. MWR just wasn't

    • @Mindrex327
      @Mindrex327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was 5 laps to go for one, and two Clint did not know it, he was Told to do it by his crew chief in "code".
      So he would have not known when to do it at all on the track, without the information his crew chief had.

    • @dracoarton94
      @dracoarton94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh nice Acceleracers pfp

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nether was Robby Gordon, kept loosing his glove or roll bar padding on the back stretch......

  • @FMecha
    @FMecha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 2010, MWR hired Mike Coughlan, who was at the time banned from F1 for involvement in Spygate. When his F1 ban expired, Coughlan went to Williams before his MWR contract expired and they sued him (before going for settlement).

  • @Tex_Mex_A_Lex
    @Tex_Mex_A_Lex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Obligatory "if you ain't cheating, you ain't winning". Also remember to tie loose ends.

  • @wrenchmanhotrods1247
    @wrenchmanhotrods1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Michael Waltrip loves himself more then racing .

    • @charliesmodels647
      @charliesmodels647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep even failed on dancing with the stars

    • @GothdaddyEG
      @GothdaddyEG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Waltrip is the worst driver in NASCAR history

    • @garypic4083
      @garypic4083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Worst driver and he a moron

  • @stonexl
    @stonexl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    MWR sucking at cheating is arguably why Chase Elliott is a champion.

    • @gage2040
      @gage2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait why?

    • @FMecha
      @FMecha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gage2040 NAPA left MWR for Chase Elliott.

  • @DennyDeliversYT
    @DennyDeliversYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Iceberg: *MWR cheats da most*
    *Approaching Angry Erich Keplinger intensifies*

  • @southfloridaarcheryguy114
    @southfloridaarcheryguy114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh come on. The 48 car was always getting fined. Chad Knaus was always getting suspended.

  • @Maverick33
    @Maverick33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    MWR had only one major impact on NASCAR:
    Hurting, tarnishing and ruining the credibility of the sport

  • @nascarcocacolaracingseries9815
    @nascarcocacolaracingseries9815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its amazing how many people aren't aware of Toyota coming in the sport in the 80s in the NASCAR Baby Grand Division

  • @tgs2141
    @tgs2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most cheating team of all time, Junior Johnson’s team

    • @ericwilliams6915
      @ericwilliams6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The folks watching NASCAR today have no clue who that is and that's sad he was the best driver/owner ever

    • @tgs2141
      @tgs2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ericwilliams6915 I love the stores about that guy

  • @UncannyEXP
    @UncannyEXP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I found a bottle of Peak at a Walgreens that still had Clint Bowyer’s car on it since they sponsored MWR. Wonder how long that’s been there.

  • @leslieedwards6650
    @leslieedwards6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I can think is had Dale not been blocking and instead going for his second Daytona 500 win...

  • @lonewolf2513
    @lonewolf2513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He did have a good run from 2009-2013 before Richmond.

  • @SwampCeeMcGee60
    @SwampCeeMcGee60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was at Richmond when Waltrip cheated. It was my 19th birthday and Bowyer spun out right by our seats. That race was my present and I got an extra gift learning I witnessed guaranteed cheating in person.

  • @robe9946
    @robe9946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This when NASCAR changed the to playoff system we have today minus the stage racing

  • @potter22q
    @potter22q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Ferrari engineer saw the spin strat, and he said, "this gives Mattia a great idea"

  • @mcb187
    @mcb187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Small nitpick: the “jet fuel” you mentioned wasn’t actually jet fuel, it was actually (from what I have found) Triethylborane/Triethylaluminium (TEA/TEB), a chemical that reacts with oxygen. It is literally ROCKET FUEL!! It is mostly used to start rocket engines, and not to power them during flight, but still...

    • @fiddlestyxify
      @fiddlestyxify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do these guys get their hands on this stuff?

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mechanic: "Dude, this stuff is way more powerful than gas, are-"
    Michael Waltrip: *"Yes"*

  • @bobwhite4671
    @bobwhite4671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Jimmie Johnson team was the king of cheating.

  • @timchapman9926
    @timchapman9926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    MWR's Chrome Wheels smacked

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They also looked good on diecasts. I still have some of them lying around somewhere

    • @TheCamSays
      @TheCamSays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably the one thing that made those cars stand out.

  • @RosyMiranto
    @RosyMiranto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Spingate feels like a failed attempt to replicate the infamous F1 Crashgate in Singapore 2008

  • @paulmoss7940
    @paulmoss7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It wouldn't hurt my feelings to never hear another Waltrip voice in racing.

  • @Bramon83
    @Bramon83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gotta love Jr playing it down.

  • @BatteryH1862
    @BatteryH1862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's gonna be funny as hell to listen to Bowyer in the booth when a potential cheating incident comes up. Some advice Clint: Dodge, Dip, Duck, Dive and Dodge.

  • @jedistreaming4006
    @jedistreaming4006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been watching NASCAR since 81, when in car camera technology came through, in my opinion, he did it on purpose, just like in 2008 in F1.

  • @burlyheads
    @burlyheads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toyotas have been caught cheating in NASCAR multiple times. They also have the unofficial title of the smartest cheat in motorsports history with the 1995 WRC Celica.

  • @TheNASCARJeff
    @TheNASCARJeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MWR was to be "THE" Toyota team and they thru it all away.. this is why JGR is where it is today..

  • @motogordo1903
    @motogordo1903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I commend Jr for calling it like he saw it in the most tactful way possible.

  • @busch77
    @busch77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *3 Scandals. Missed MWR stealing a sway bar from Roush racing in 2008. They did not do themselves any favours perception wise.

  • @PaperBanjo64
    @PaperBanjo64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that ESPN crew was so good...NBC is a bunch of goofballs minus Dale Jr, those guys were respectable analysts.

    • @wesleyloroff2736
      @wesleyloroff2736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially daddy's fans ( I mean junior)

  • @imtherealone.6268
    @imtherealone.6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved Dale's response. Lmao.

  • @kylewagoner
    @kylewagoner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was at the spingate race and totally forgot Newman was set to win it. Also someone stood up in front of me as Edwards was doing his backflip so I couldn't see it.

  • @redneckgamers897
    @redneckgamers897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    David Reutimann is highly underrated tbh

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tore up to much stuff.get u out as quick as low performance.

    • @redneckgamers897
      @redneckgamers897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ixlr8677 I’m just sayin talent wise he had a lot of potential

  • @DrMurdercock
    @DrMurdercock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice Clint avoided answering lol

  • @88fanforlife
    @88fanforlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought it was a shit deal how MWR lost everything after spin gate but yet nothing happened to RCR when they did the same thing at the same race in 2011 to help Kevin Harvick win

  • @DaytonaPrototypes
    @DaytonaPrototypes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be fair JGR winning everything in sight starting in 2008 also started the Dem Cheatin Teyodors. Also have to mention Kauffman causing the 2011 Mike Rockenfeller LeMans crash.

    • @DaytonaPrototypes
      @DaytonaPrototypes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@b.d.cooper8671 I didn't say they weren't. But in 2008 they won like half the Nationwide season and the 18 car wins 8 Cup races which was a huge jump from what the team did in 2007

    • @DaytonaPrototypes
      @DaytonaPrototypes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@b.d.cooper8671 Logano had nothing to do with JGR's success. He won 1 Nationwide race in 2008. Kyle coming in helped the team but he was hated at the time and people's only reason for him winning everything was that Toyota was cheating. The Nationwide side of JGR did get busted about halfway through the year as well. Not saying I believe any of that but thats the stuff I remember other people saying at the time.

  • @zachschoeneman5638
    @zachschoeneman5638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    also the fact that because of MWR going under, Clint Bowyer had to spend a year of his career on a backmarker team in HScott Motorsports

  • @stratman2197
    @stratman2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Jet fuel" is nothing more than high end kerosene. Doubt that will give an unfair advantage.....call it methanol/nitro methane injection or propolyne oxide or hydrogen engine, benzene.....not jet fuel.

    • @stratman2197
      @stratman2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hydrogen peroxide*
      Dang auto correct

  • @lpllol9460
    @lpllol9460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly love your videos the one thing that bothers me especially working in the performance industry is everyone saying jet fuel like it some crazy explosive chemical jet fuel is diesel or kerosene one of the hardest fuels to even ignite what they most likely used was some form of oxygenator in a gelatin form as a stabilizing agent to when it gets hot it releases extra oxygen as a nitrous does

  • @TimothyChapman
    @TimothyChapman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of conspiracy theories, you should do a video focusing exclusively on NASCAR-related conspiracy theories. That could get interesting, very quickly.

  • @1908Rick
    @1908Rick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are we supposed to believe Toyota had no knowledge of what Waltrip was doing? Really?

  • @COLETHORN10
    @COLETHORN10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For God's sake, he put jet fuel in his manifold. NASCAR caught him.

  • @lindastone9043
    @lindastone9043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No one wanted Toyota to come into NASCAR to begin with. Michael Waltrip took on a very difficult task. Once under a microscope, a very dark cloud, he gave everything mentally and financially. I give him credit. He tried to do something to make a difference in the sport. Every one cheats from small tracks to big tracks. But look at the Toyota teams now, and look at Truex. He continues to help our sport. Michael became a huge steppingstone for the sport, Toyota, and drivers. I hope he is well and is enjoying life.

  • @skeleguns10oooooo10
    @skeleguns10oooooo10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Napa moved on to sponsor Chase Elliott
    5 Hour Energy sponsor Clint during his 2016 season, and Erik Jones during his rookie season.
    Aarons never appeared in NASCAR again

  • @kimberlieverschoor3814
    @kimberlieverschoor3814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Hey, it’s not cheat if you don’t get caught!” DW

  • @forrest2457
    @forrest2457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When they added Toyota, I was thinking “WHAT?!” “You Added Toyota Into NASCAR?!” “No More Dodge?!” “NO MORE MOPAR?!” “No More Dodge?!” “DAMN!”

  • @anitagarrison6916
    @anitagarrison6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not gonna say he didn't cheat, but I always found it hard to believe he did. Call me naive if you want but being how much MW loves and respects NASCAR to this day it just never set right with me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok...

    • @n111254789
      @n111254789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smokey Yunick pretty much summed it up. The spirit of racing, in all forms. Is reading between the lines and slipping in some cheating. If they got to rewrite the rules because you had a creative interpretation or you just were so goddamn smart that the techs couldn't figure out your performance gain then that is an innovation.
      Like it or hate it all teams from grass roots dirt track, to formula 1, motogp and wrc rally. Plus everything in between including Nascar which has a vibrant history of it. All racing does the amount of sheer competition for any edge leads to this. Gray areas and creative interpretation is all it will ever be for the engineers and race strategists.

  • @hornetguy9063
    @hornetguy9063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The legacy: everyone’s hate of Toyota will forever have justification

  • @2011derricks
    @2011derricks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least Mikey WAS TRYIN! If you ain't cheatin, YOU AIN'T TRYIN! :P