The Malbone Street Wreck | Tales From the Subway
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- NYC has had many subway derailments throughout the years but none have been as disastrous as the Malbone Street Wreck.
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Also the malbone st reck is the reason why wooden subway cars are no longer allowed to operate underground, so if you've ever been on a heritage trip along on the old brt/bmt gate cars and wondered why you never see them in the underground portions of the subway, now you know.
Only underground when going to CI yard for maintanence.
Wooden cars were banned from the subway in 1915, due to them being a fire hazard.
@@pbatommy And a splintering/shrapnel hazard as well.
History swept under the rug, renaming the street and giving the operator a new name (which I don't place blame on).
I think Luciano changed his name himself due to the anti-Italian bias at that time.
This wreck was discussed in gruseome details when I was in school car to become a train operator.
Yikes 😬
wow! they tell wreck stories like this in school car all the time?
@@brianaaaaaa I can only speak about what went on in my particular class, though some of my trainees told me it was brought up in their class as well.
@@pbatommyBtw, CONGRATULATIONS on becoming a NYC subway train operator (motorman)!! That was one of many MTA jobs I hoped to perform as a youngster, before my "mother" decided to move us kids to LA....
Can’t even begin to imagine how traumatize those people were during the occurrence of the crash in question
For a reasonable account, please read "Under the Sidewalks of New York" by Brian J. Cudahay.
Really hard to think about this, the way you described it just made me think, what the MTA was, and what it is today, and the future
MTA didn't exist yet
@@stevenroshni1228 I’m talking about their past company names, that’s what I mean about the “MTA was”
It was NOT MTA it was a private company at that time - it was taken over years later by the city board of transportation
The mta wouldn’t be included with past company names as its a government agency
@@_selvarajg_it wouldn’t be included with past company names as mta was not a company it was an govt agency
QQWERTY Railfan, Never heard of him.
But from what I've seen, I would definitely subscribe to him
Checked out ur vid on conquesting pretty good
Thanks
R.I.P to the victims who had passed due to the incident.
How about the story about the collision on the Roosevelt Avenue IND that occured in May of 1970? I understand one of the trains involved was the R 40 's. The one's with the sloping ends, but they might have been modified by '70.
@@johnv339 Wow! I saw the picture of the the R40 car and I'm quite familiar with the R16's. Rode one myself when I was a kid. Thanks for the picture!
@@floydmayo790 My pleasure; the second link is photo of right side. Notice how windows on doors are symmetrical with rest of windows pre-overhaul. They looked so much better back then. I also very much disliked elimination of back-lit advertisement racks--they lost much of their 1960's appearance post-overhaul.
There still is a very short Malbone Street about 4 blocks away just above Empire Blvd where it meets New York Avenue.
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A lot of these train wrecks stories to me sound very ominous.
I wonder what made that trial move from Brooklyn to Mineola. I know they are both part of the Eastern District Court system, but Is that where Luciano lived or something?
Interesting fact that he became a house builder in Queens Village.
Luciano resided in Brooklyn, and it was thought he would get a trial that was more unbiased if it were to be relocated to another county. He resided at, or approximately 7 Street in Redhook ? "Uptown-Downtown" has an essay about it, but locating a copy would be next to impossible--it's a collector's item. "The Malbone Street Wreck" published by Fordham University Press should be easier to obtain, at reasonable cost.
Trials can be moved if the defense convinces that there isn't a locally available jury free of bias. Because this story was big news people already had an opinion before seeing the evidence closely
It might have to do with the fact that the state of NY was taking over the subway system
Government did not take over till about 1953, the State even later.
@@johnv339How about Brian J. Cudhay's version of the event in his landmark book: "Under the Sidewalks of New York"?!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!!!!!
The operator has cameraman plot armor and thus never dies
I like these Vids covering Train wrecks, could you cover some of the LIRR and MetroNorth train wrecks
This kind of reminded me about that train derailment on the metro north at Spuyten Duyvil a few years back I believe for the reason of a train going too fast
@Geek City I may consider doing some videos on the LIRR/MNR wrecks in the NY area.
How could the short train length handle 600 people? Seems excessive
Evening rush hour--you'd be surprised.
Have you often wondered how a ten-car train of R-10s can move over 2000 passengers?!
Really informative!!
Rip the victims
May they souls return 💫
Thanks a bunch keep it coming 👍🏿
hi mystictransit--love your videos and your content, as a fellow nyc native and transit enthusiast, i thoroughly enjoyed watching this one. you should cover the 9th avenue derailment next for this series.
I’ll definitely consider it!
The 9th avenue El; wasn't the dreadful accident there the city's very first "9-11" event?!
I am here when this vid had 69 likes
Wow look at the stations now- ghetto central- THATS a shame for the riders there- business as usual in the B division - the A is hardly better
I wonder if the Wreck will still be serious had the BRT Brooklyn rapid transit got the Composites from the IRT. Remember Brooklyn Rapid Transit elevated gate cars can run on IRT tracks like the West Side Line 207th-242nd St White Plains Road Jackson Ave to Eastchester Dyre Avenue & Wakefield 241st Street. What's a Brooklyn Rapid Transit Corporation could have done to prevent this in the first place was actually ordering bakerloo line trains modified for BRT use
Not a chance. First, the IRT would reuse the Composites as express trains on the 2nd, 3rd, and 9th Avenue el lines. They were modified, with lighter, mono-motor trucks, and their electrical control equipment was changed out for newer, lighter control and braking equipment. Even with that, those cars could only carry passengers on the express tracks, or extensions built from the1890s onwards. Even if some Composites had been picked up, they could have only operated on newer sections of elevated line. The inner end of the Fulton El, where Brighton trains ran until a subway connection opened at Prospect Park, was NOT a section rebuilt for heavier trains. In fact, the tunnel where the wreck occurred was opened as part of the connection project just a few weeks before the wreck.
I am still waiting for the 2020 Peeled R46!
I'll say around like 2 years. We still need a little bit more info
This really shows how our standards have improved since the early 20th century
The borough president Eric Adams listed on the plaque is a former NYPD Captain and is now Mayor of NYC.
I've been waiting forever for another installment in this series lol
Yeah, I noticed I hadn't put out a Tales from the Subway video in a while so I was like "why not?"
Hey @MysticTransit what are your thoughts on my proposal of a new Queens (S)huttle that connects the Flushing - Main St Station on the (7) to Jamaica Center - Parsons/Archer on the (E)(J)(Z) Trains? I haven’t thought out the stations yet however I imagine this (S)huttle to run under Main St, then Kissena Blvd, then under Parsons Blvd. The reason I would like to see this proposal considered is because of how crowded many of the busses that connect Flushing - Main St & Jamaica Center - Parsons/Archer, like the Q17, Q20A, Q20B, Q44 SBS, & other busses get. Possibly this (S)huttle can even eventually be merged into another new subway line or something but I think this is a good start. Let me know what your thoughts are on that proposal. ;)
I’m not a fan of the proposal. I don’t think that corridor has high enough ridership to warrant a subway line (even a shuttle). It is a good corridor for light rail though.
@@MysticTransit I understand. Light rail can go a long way in NYC especially in Queens which is why I’m excited about the IBX.
@@St4rBoyRailfanning has there been any progress on construction of the IBX?
@@karatekidfahim3 I don’t think so. They have revealed the stations tho……
@@St4rBoyRailfanning ahh ok, its been 7 months tho, hope they add the stations if the TA have the budget
Was this the accident that caused the city to reduce the speed of trains?
The Williamsburg Bridge one I believe
Nope. There were a handful of accidents in the 1970/80s which prompted the introduction of timer signals in the system, but the speeds were only really reduced after the Williamsburg Bridge collision.
@@MysticTransit wasn't there one in the 1920s with a irt low V? I think that's the one
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105 years ago on this day 😢
Wow. That operator who cause the Malbone Street wreck was still alive when I was growing up in the late 1970s & early 1980's. (Yes, I am telling my age)
The term was motorman.
Whoa
3:37 K your friend is actually smart for that lowkey
The A/B Standard cars were the exact response to this incident. The BU Gate cars are some cool stuff, but if you're a bad operator, it can really go WRONG based on this incident.
The A/B Standards existed at the time of the wreck; they were too heavy for the Brooklyn Bridge.
When are we getting March transit news
Probably in 3 months lol
I just realized
That sounds awful
its traumatizing. ☠
I had van Cleef and Tirado as motor instructors- they never mentioned these things but I had read about it as a child- it was a patrolman who remembered getting knocked down in street level next to the collision form the tremendous impact that responded by running into the tunnel which was glowing from the power and broken third rail - yes they never shut the power off and many were electrocuted on the road bed as they emerged from the wreck holding hands trying to help each other - the patrolman saw this as he tried to initiate a rescue- there were still gouges in the concrete walls years afterwards - not sure about now but there were
Actually, BRT substation operators thought union saboteurs were up to sup'm, and cut the power back on, not knowing the severity of the carnage until several minutes later.
Glad that this Series is back. What a Wild Accident.
Autistic people when the new documentary on a traincrash that killed 2929840913 people:😈😈😈😈
Wha.
Can you make a video explaining why the N line has r46,r68?
I miss the r179,r160’s
cbtc on the QBL
You cant afford to have a strike , Jesus ,
Last time I checked, Jesus NEVER went on strike!!
Inaccessible, not unaccessible...
"Train operator" is historically incorrect, they were called motormen.
Yes, they were called motormen, however, to avoid confusion with some of the younger generations who watch my videos, I referred to the motormen as "Train Operators".
@@MysticTransit I should've taken that into account.
@@johnv339There couldn't be "motorwomen" back then, I suppose....