The gaps in Oregon's mental health system that are leaving many to struggle on their own
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ย. 2024
- Most severely mentally ill people don't meet civil commitment standards, but many struggle on their own. What's left is a mental health system with frustrating gaps.
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Brenda nailed the issue. These people need intensive help, not to be set free on the street. I feel for Brenda and people in similar situations because instead of people getting the help they need we as a society enable and perpetuate the issues.
I don't think people realize how hard it is to get someone treated. It took over 2 years of fighting to get a young man treatment that was suffering with schizophrenia in Oregon. In order for him to get treatment he had to prove that he was a danger to himself and others which then puts a different kind of negative idea on him because now that's listed in the courts. But yet he had to do that in order for him to get help. That help included 6 months of in-care treatment and then 6 months living in housing assisted. Now he is a functionable adult. And he takes his medicine regularly. However it should never take someone 2 years and having to put that black mark on them for all of their life in order to get help in our mental system.
What is a functionable adult? The problem is they tend to overmedicate people - the drugs work short term by sedating people, but long term; they have awful affects and people get worse.
@@scoobydadog246 for many things there is no fix. It's broken. However they work to treat the illness side effects. Ie: no longer hearing voices in your head saying your a piece of... Or telling you they will kill your family if you don't do such n such. Functional means to be able to live with yourself and others. Being able to make your own decisions on when to take that heavy hitter med that knocks you out. Most of all it makes them able to ask for help.
Mental illness is as horrible to them as it can be to those around them.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation look this up and you will see why our mental health system crumbled. It was suppose to be replaced with better option only to still have never been done...
@@xaneviasThey've replaced it with genocide - drugging people with polypharmacy of brain damaging meds unti they die about 20 years earlier than gen population from drug effects. Cost effective.
That mother is absolutely right!
Knowing that poor people don't get therapy, they get behavioral health which doesn't come with a licensed therapist it comes with pills 🙊🙊🙊
Spot on my friend - involuntary commitment and forced polypharmacy until they die early from the drug effects.. which of course is called 'illness'.
Bring back mental hospital where they can't check themselves out.
The problem is, you can’t even get voluntary INPATIENT treatment, if you try.
I’m progressive and I want to help the homeless. But I don’t want them to be housed anywhere near my neighborhood, and when you do house them I have a long list of demands which they must meet or they’ll get kicked out 🤦♂️
The problem is is that when they get kicked out because they don't want to conform they're right back on the street and in front of your house.
@@xanevias yup. All these idiots who implement the rule sets need to get fired and made a public example of. Taking away peoples human rights is sick especially when you hold the idea of being housed above their heads. Portlanders have a long history of this immoral behavior.
I just would like to see homeless counseling and cancer counseling & anger management counseling & anxiety attack counseling instead of mental health *
I think the word is rude *
I would really like to see separate types of counseling rather then categorizing us all in one mental health group when each person has their own individual problem * There is Parkinson counseling *
Dementia counseling * adhd counseling & bi polar counseling *
they need to understand what they have and how to treat it and each type of depression needs to be handled differently
* also drugs too it isn't a good idea to just have drug rehab there is heroine rehab and coc a I ne rehab & alchol rehab and meth rehab all of these symptoms are real
mental health facilities want everyone in one facility and all together and the problem needs to be dealt with diferently *
the mental health wants it to be called mental health & everyone in one facility when we are all diferent * different types of issues & each person needs to be treated differently
To say a person with cancer sadness issues needs to be in the same category as mental health issues and mental health counseling instead of cancer counseling it's saying a cancer patient has the same issues as a anger management person with severe anger issues and violent * is not right *
In fact I think it can become a very serious issue when someone wants counseling to help with cancer and has to go to mental health cause they are having sadness dealing with cancer and wanting to put them literally and not exaggerating a cancer patient with a man with sever anger and abuse issues and knocks everyone around to be in the same facility as a cancer patient dealing with a cancer cause they both are strugling with their own individual feelings and both go to the same facility is really wrong
a word I can't find unfair to the cancer patient * & can destroy a cancer patients life for having a dificult time dealing with cancer sadness *
Then going to the same facility as a angry violent man or woman isn't right *
Each person's issue needs to be dealt with by introducing them to what they have and understanding what they have amd be dealt with medicinally with what they have and in a program with professionals understanding what they have and how to treat their individual issues *
This mental health category all in one category it reminds me of the Bee Movie 🎬 the drama parts ..
I'm glad I got that out and I'm sure I explained it right too*
That's a fabulous idea, but too expensive and time consuming. It's all about drugging - lots of drugging and if you notice every year there are new 'mental disorders"... soon it will be dangerous to have human emotion.
Are mental health system is broken .😞Don't we have a 78 hour hold law in the USA.
Only in certain circumstances and those are VERY few
Hah! By "high standards" here I thought this report would take a look the abusive and gaslighting nature of low-skilled/low-wage employment, the difficulty finding affordable housing with no transportation, no recent history of previous addresses, credit barriers, etc. all on top of having to deal with a brain with malfunctioning executive level processing.... Essentially all these soft barriers that American society writ large has created in its day-to-day material systems and how those meet the debilitating realities of mental illness... hell, mental illness which is itself often exacerbated in the anti-worker, pro-business owner realities of working life in the US... wages not matching inflation, real estate used as investment at the expense of low income families... oh, and anytime you find some people like yourself willing to take the initiative to try and make the best of a bad situation, the yuppie neighbors have finally annoyed the city enough to come trash your home and dumpster all of you belongings.
Nope. It's those damn civil liberties and human rights of the unhoused keeping them back.
Mental illness or not that's not an excuse for committing a crime Most of them are just violent junkies. Way too many excuses made for the people. What about their victims, where are THEIR RIGHTS!??
It's true but you can't put somebody that needs mental health in a jail without treatment. And then you're asking people that are there for one reason to work now needing a totally different skill set.