osu!mapping: how to rank a map

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
  • bringing some clarity to perhaps one of the most confusing subjects for new mappers
    lowdiff resources:
    • osu!mapping: low diffi... (general lowdiffs)
    • How to Make a Ranked o... (normals)
    • How to Make a Ranked o... (hards)
    • How to Make a Ranked o... (insanes)
    hitsounding resources:
    • osu! mapping Guide - H...
    • osu!mapping: hitsounds
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    CREDITS
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    big thanks to the proofreading crew (Ralkinson, dedekind, NeonLights, Silverboxer, Surgis, uniform, Basensorex, Visionary, enri, olc, and Yumenexa) for making sure my script was ok
    songs used (in order):
    unknown/unused song from Wii Party
    2 Mello - Mirror Temple (Mirror Magic Mix) (from "Celeste")
    Star Shuttle (Station 2) (from "Wii Play: Motion")
    Ryokuoushoku Shakai - Ladybug
    AZALI & crow - MECHANICAL GOD
    RefraQ & Vorso - Biomes
    halca - Kokuhaku Bungee Jump
    Ryo Nagamatsu - Coconut Mall (from "Mario Kart Wii")
    Failure (from "Wii Fit"/"Wii Fit Plus")
    Thundercat - Uh Uh
    Christa Lee - Celestial Resort (Good Karma Mix) (from "Celeste")
    Michael Cera Palin - Laughing Makes It Worse
    map footage used (in order) (anything not listed is unsubmitted):
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...
    osu.ppy.sh/bea...

ความคิดเห็น • 122

  • @ryuusei_aika
    @ryuusei_aika ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Thanks for the nice video & the quoting.
    One thing I'd like to say is: if you're a new mapper and is aiming for ranked, getting confused by the BN rejection and/or not sure if your map would meet the ranking standard, you can ask BNs for _feedbacks_. Most of the BNs are on their position because they have the certified ability to help people improve their maps. Besides there are also a handful of BNs who're willing to help new mappers out. So IMO for new mappers, asking BNs for feedback is an efficient way to refine your maps, which make your chances of being accepted in the future higher (to some extent).

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thanks for bringing that up! really good point

    • @kukieplayzyt81
      @kukieplayzyt81 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are BNs

    • @hexlok2630
      @hexlok2630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kukieplayzyt81 it stands for Beatmap Nominators

    • @Lukasek_Grubasek
      @Lukasek_Grubasek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@kukieplayzyt81beatmap nominators. A group of people who individually decide whether a map will be ranked

    • @kukieplayzyt81
      @kukieplayzyt81 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lukasek_Grubasek i see ty!

  • @Xadreco
    @Xadreco ปีที่แล้ว +139

    also, it's important to know that theres a huge difference between a rankable map and a good map

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yeah, it's hard to fully explain all the little clarifications like that without losing a lot of conciseness - in this video i tried to imply it through saying "it's not an overwhelmingly high bar" at 0:53

    • @Boring7279
      @Boring7279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why loved maps exists

    • @jent14
      @jent14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wafer

  • @makotheowl
    @makotheowl ปีที่แล้ว +68

    how to rank a map in 2 steps:
    1 - Make a rankable map that fits the criteria
    2 - Be friends with the BNs
    3 (optional) - be a popular mapper with maps already ranked.
    Very good video btw

    • @vliz-org
      @vliz-org 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely

  • @haruruhaha
    @haruruhaha ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "bns read it, so you don't have to"
    poor souls 😭😭

  • @agegarret
    @agegarret ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Short answer: if you dont have friends you do not rank maps.

    • @Sam_Hue
      @Sam_Hue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if you’re not overly nervous on the ranking part, you should be fine, if it gets rejected use it as experience :>

  • @syre7608
    @syre7608 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ty we needed this since pishi's videos are pushing on ancient

  • @xykedelic8760
    @xykedelic8760 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Loved the video!! I think it's important to mention that the difference between a ranked and non-ranked map, isn't always quality tho, despite being true for most cases.

  • @artrix909
    @artrix909 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    absolutely LOVE these videos WE NEED MORE EDUCATIONAL CONTENT FOR MAPPERS!

  • @-NanoRIPE-op5cj
    @-NanoRIPE-op5cj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:43 lol its my mod. didnt expect my mod would be on ytb video

  • @sokoasoko_
    @sokoasoko_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    incredibly high quality editing and well written video! good luck on future videos too

  • @dragonz4477
    @dragonz4477 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    something very interesting that should be brought up is that much to peppy's chagrin, hitsounding your beatmap is technically no longer a requirement for your map to reach ranked in osu!mania. since it was difficult enough to get peppy to agree to this after a metric ton of arguments on the forums, it is still technically recommended that you hitsound your map though.
    the whole reason it's like this now is because the vast majority of mania's high level players do not play with hitsounds. my effect volume is literally turned down to 0% when i play mania. 4key is the most popular key layout in mania, and its similar counterparts (ddr, ffr, etterna, quaver) have very minimal hitsounds, if any at all. because pcs can't run at light speed, there is a very minor disconnect between the feedback of pressing a key vs hearing the hitsound that makes switching between not using them and using them tricky.
    peppy's reluctance to change this rule came from the fact that he did not base o!m off of these similar games, but off of bms, in which every chart has special hitsounds (keysounds if you want to be technical but that's an entirely different conversation) bc all of the songs were custom made for bms.
    almost 2 years ago now in the forum thread that made this change finally happen, peppy said:
    "Just my 2 cents without writing an essay: The reason I got hooked on osu! tatakae! ouendan! (and before that, DJ MAX and BMS simulators) was hitsounds. It's the main reason i made osu!. Say what you will ("this is not your game it's the community's game" / "no one's forced to play maps without hitsounds" etc. etc.), just felt I'd add that here."

    • @Sam_Hue
      @Sam_Hue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BMS hit-sounding is a lot of pain, as it has to be manually done with a separate charting program. Not only that, it’s done in a particularly inefficient manner where each individual hitnormal has a small audio file associated with it. It’s very tedious work :>

    • @xenai.
      @xenai. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I noticed that many mania maps I download have constant hitsounds. Sometimes, it's a custom one, but they often are a quiet, soft hitsound.

  • @skolodojko3582
    @skolodojko3582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    regarding 2:55 its totally fine to skip a difficulty IF it isnt needed for the spread, for example: a spread with only normal and insane diffs on a song thats at least 4:15 long

    • @xenai.
      @xenai. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a touhou map ranked like last month, a 2 star normal diff and a 5 star insane diff.
      I thought it was some 2010 map at first because of the spread

  • @espiionosu
    @espiionosu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im in the video!!!! holy shit!!!!!

    • @Laydau
      @Laydau ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf!!! (go to sleep)

  • @FiXsy_
    @FiXsy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing vid! explains the ranking process pretty well!

  • @Zennan
    @Zennan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    she just keeps winning

  • @fae567
    @fae567 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that's insane
    I'm not interested in making a map but I did wonder what the differences are between maps and this was very insightful

  • @CommandoBlack123
    @CommandoBlack123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even if you make a map that satisfies the ranking criteria it will not get ranked. You could be the best mapper in the world but if you don't have nepotism on your side you will be overlooked.

    • @吳林均
      @吳林均 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      real situation

  • @UtibaOfficial
    @UtibaOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! Definitely will help me getting a ranked map!

  • @seazeiscool
    @seazeiscool ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really high quality video, enjoyed watching it
    btw you really should increase the quality of your recordings, its pretty pixelated on small text

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'm well aware - it's actually fine in the preview, it's just a rendering issue (trying to figure out how to turn off de-interlacing which is annoying because i use a really old version of premiere)

  • @Sam_Hue
    @Sam_Hue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most important aspect about ranking maps is to not be afraid of asking the BNs for feedbacks, lots of people tends to bail on the second part :>

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true!

  • @ThirtyZ
    @ThirtyZ ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing quality on this video is amazing, I don't understand how you have only 600 subs, and you just earned a new one :D

  • @webber400
    @webber400 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for educating me, this seems hard but i will try my best. Now I know what to do so thanks again!

  • @Phatt
    @Phatt ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf banger video alert ‼️🔥

  • @alienfortytwo
    @alienfortytwo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video
    what I've learned is that I won't ever be attempting to do this because it sounds like a nightmare

  • @Stryfe52
    @Stryfe52 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video

  • @hevilmateold
    @hevilmateold ปีที่แล้ว

    didn't know about diffs spread criteria, thanks

  • @donut7799
    @donut7799 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:47 getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead

  • @momothx1
    @momothx1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    me watching this even though i have already ranked maps already

  • @haruruhaha
    @haruruhaha ปีที่แล้ว

    literally planning to rank my first map this year ><
    timing couldn't be more fortuitous
    thank you!

  • @sahilmehta-2004
    @sahilmehta-2004 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a high quality video. Hope to see more stuff like this!

  • @AfkCrewGaming
    @AfkCrewGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo thanks for the advice I’m planning on getting a map I’m working on get ranked this really helped

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad to hear it! good luck

  • @noeliartt
    @noeliartt ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a really nice video! i hope you continue to make more!

  • @UtibaOfficial
    @UtibaOfficial 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s been 4 months since my last comment here, and I can say I have officially gotten a ranked beatmap! :D

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      woah congrats!!

  • @frnono
    @frnono ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bruh, this is what I cannot do. Literally

  • @cobicu
    @cobicu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good vid, informative, i like

  • @shinejnn2
    @shinejnn2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man thanks for detail explaining! I always wonder how ranked really done

  • @SanzuRiver
    @SanzuRiver ปีที่แล้ว

    She's made another banger

  • @Welkinthewolf
    @Welkinthewolf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mapped a lot between 2015-2020 and would end up spending a month or more just making a 4* or higher difficulty. After that, I just dreaded the thought of making boring lower difficulties with my slow mapping speed.

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i struggle with the same thing, it's so hard to map efficiently lol

  • @MarkSchwaeber
    @MarkSchwaeber ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video! Thanks man :)

  • @lurumic
    @lurumic ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope i can find 2 lovely individuals now

  • @boden0_
    @boden0_ ปีที่แล้ว

    the roland ahh 169 out of nowhere killed me

  • @adoornob6212
    @adoornob6212 ปีที่แล้ว

    keep making these pls

  • @vraxo8953
    @vraxo8953 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff man

  • @floatingup
    @floatingup หลายเดือนก่อน

    i watched this so many times

  • @Justxrice
    @Justxrice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clicked to see what it took to make one, after seeing that picky ass BN i’d rather not waste ANY of my time doing it

  • @jiysea
    @jiysea ปีที่แล้ว

    finally a video to rank my maps

  • @insecure_tiger
    @insecure_tiger ปีที่แล้ว

    We love mapping vids

  • @ryoukaip
    @ryoukaip ปีที่แล้ว

    for me, as a player, not a mapper, i'll just make map for fun and that's it

  • @sadfeelings727
    @sadfeelings727 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @Ucitysm
    @Ucitysm ปีที่แล้ว

    1:30 yoo i see my map in the video

  • @underground2691
    @underground2691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:42 honestly, my biggest problem is that i don’t have friends 😔

  • @Nekathe
    @Nekathe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:41, “no avalon pilled maps”. D:

  • @3dboi
    @3dboi ปีที่แล้ว

    Its ranking time

  • @pentacoilz8560
    @pentacoilz8560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goat

  • @willnewell9242
    @willnewell9242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    question maps are mostly subjective so if you want it a certain weird style the mods might just not like it and ask for changes take delis for example his maps r weird and i saw a ton of modding sections where they suggest changes and hes like thats literally not the point of the map its supposed to be this way how do you go about that situation?

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is a great question and one of the biggest challenges with the ranking process! i think i mentioned in the video that you don't have to accept every mod you get if you don't agree with some of them, but sometimes people have bigger disagreements. usually the bns just won't accept the map if they take issue with it as a whole, but even then, maps sometimes get vetoed and can't get ranked without some pretty fundamental changes. subjectivity will always cause issues to some extent

  • @visionary4040
    @visionary4040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally i can rank a map 🙏

  • @rafitosz
    @rafitosz ปีที่แล้ว

    i so like this video

  • @Klevsify
    @Klevsify ปีที่แล้ว

    If it only would be that easy, I cant even find a modder that wants to tell me what to fix on my map 💀

  • @crawdad5867
    @crawdad5867 ปีที่แล้ว

    she dont miss

  • @th3on3c
    @th3on3c ปีที่แล้ว

    Cyndi on her content creator arc O_o

  • @melleganol
    @melleganol ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds horrible that you need 2 of those "referees" to rank your map (╥﹏╥) nice video!!!

  • @VictorianSnailGod
    @VictorianSnailGod ปีที่แล้ว

    I know what I’m going to do this week

  • @jamesjan381
    @jamesjan381 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video :3

  • @namescam
    @namescam ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @Nekomosh004
    @Nekomosh004 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing :3c

  • @nanaih
    @nanaih ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing vid. If only the hitsounding process wasn't boring af...

    • @airballer2004
      @airballer2004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tbh to me hitsounding is fun as hell, it feels like they make the map come alive and i get super stoked hitsounding my maps

    • @AnimadisticaOrKontinakaro
      @AnimadisticaOrKontinakaro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a person who maps exactly what the drums do, I bloody love hitsounding

  • @nloadergd9193
    @nloadergd9193 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ??? you swapped 2 and 3... ur supposed to get your mapped modded first and then push it for ranked...

    • @nloadergd9193
      @nloadergd9193 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nvm i didnt watch the video all the way lol

  • @technochroma6537
    @technochroma6537 ปีที่แล้ว

    when ranked

  • @torriuu
    @torriuu ปีที่แล้ว

    6:57 i agree 🤣

  • @ducknorriss928
    @ducknorriss928 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:09 I got jumpscared LOL

  • @felixgg
    @felixgg ปีที่แล้ว

    good video

  • @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay
    @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me watching this even tho i probably wont be able to rank a single map 😅

  • @6pxg_dama
    @6pxg_dama ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is Vsauce quality

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว

      it's an honor to be compared to the goat

  • @_izzeee
    @_izzeee ปีที่แล้ว

    banger

  • @SolarFlare307
    @SolarFlare307 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alternatively: be wafer!

  • @cupidbleh
    @cupidbleh ปีที่แล้ว

    Yk maybe i dont wanna try to get a ranked map

  • @opalotic
    @opalotic ปีที่แล้ว

    mania: LN go brrrrr

  • @edgytextyes9175
    @edgytextyes9175 ปีที่แล้ว

    5 hypes is easy
    1 bn is doable
    2 bns is impossible
    ranking is free

  • @Lazuley_
    @Lazuley_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont think ranking is for me. I'm just gonna have fun mapping songs i like :D Im still gonna try to make my maps better though ofc

  • @jkfjsfaugueyfhsdfjfafajjgu6769
    @jkfjsfaugueyfhsdfjfafajjgu6769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to make a 13 star now that people will pass in 2025 and pp farm in 2028

  • @sid6645
    @sid6645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Text is real crusty tho xdd

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you! and yeah thankfully i found the setting in my video editing software last night that fixes that issue (it was a project setup thing that i had wrong) so future videos will be looking a lot better

  • @AroundTheGlobeShort
    @AroundTheGlobeShort 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk know what to say about this system

  • @marcosantoniomaximodasilva7075
    @marcosantoniomaximodasilva7075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Celeste OST 😊

  • @hotgayfurryfeet
    @hotgayfurryfeet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg yes plz we need more mapping vids!!!

  • @Nevertary
    @Nevertary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:15 I hate this anime
    cool video tho

  • @SlothSensei
    @SlothSensei 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What skin are you using 4:12

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's just a rafis skin edit i made, it uses a bunch of different elements from various other skins i like - here's a download link drive.google.com/file/d/15M1tWajOUFz_-fAaolS6fePOE8hFH1SB/view?usp=sharing

  • @powerplayer75
    @powerplayer75 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy shit ranking is not worth all of that. seems an impossible process if you dont want to be socially active with the community.

  • @lawrencfgsdfg
    @lawrencfgsdfg ปีที่แล้ว

    osu

  • @xsie_xsie
    @xsie_xsie ปีที่แล้ว

    727th sub, im funny...............................

    • @kataryn
      @kataryn  ปีที่แล้ว

      congratulations

  • @BlastTheKidd
    @BlastTheKidd ปีที่แล้ว

    i think all mappers so learn what things do in the editor before they start 🫣