A few tips for new users of hurricane lanterns (most can also be applied to normal oil lamps). Essential oils can be added to the fuel whether it’s kerosene or lamp oil to help with the chemical odor. When adjusting the flame slowly adjust it up, and as soon as you see black smoke come out adjust it back down until it stops, and that’s your lantern’s maximum flame size. If you have an older lantern that leaks due you can use a pour in fuel tank liner like they use in motorcycle and car fuel tanks. It’s recommended to clean your lantern, and trim the wick weekly. There’s different ways to trim the wick to change how the flame works, and I think everyone should play around with the shape to find which one they prefer. Also to prolong Wick life don’t let the tank get more than half empty. This helps keep the fuel moving up to the top of the Wick faster and easier which helps slow down the actual burning of the wick itself. It’s also recommended by many that if you are using kerosene to empty the lantern if you’re not going to be using it for long periods of use. The kerosene will break down and make the lantern unusable.
My grandfathers blizzard DIETZ NEW YORK lantern is about 100 years old now and still lights my maple syrup operation late at night. Simple tools like hammers and chisels never go out of style or use! New wicks and oil still available at any hardware store of repute.
Just restored a NIER 280 feuerhand from around the 1920s. It was intact but lost the glass globe years ago. Fortunately, Dietz makes a replacement globe for this model, and it works great. I use 7/8 wick with regular lamp oil.
Lamp oil is good stuff. I use it when I can get it at a good price and it does a marvelous job. And congrats on restoring a 90-100 year old lantern too! Do you have any pics?.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter update: since I last posted I did not mention that the lamp tank had quite a few pinholes and I attempted to repair them with Liquid Flex Seal, inside and out. I thought I fixed the problem, but after a week, it began leaking and got everywhere. I really thought it would work, so do not use it. After cleaning it up to square one I used Permatex Black Adhesive Sealant silicone RTV 81158. So far so good. I do have pics but not sure how to post them.
With the price of batteries becoming so expensive, oil lamps are a great option. Also the Dietz oil lamps are very reliable and well made. We used ours for 2 days, due to a power outage.
I totally agree. I've been subjected to a few long power outages out here as well, and while I have a few other options, I still primarily use my Dietz lanterns during these. And as a bonus, it sure beats cranking my Goal Zero lantern for precisely 48 minutes to get an hour or two of light.
Great lanterns. I have 4 of them and i have used them alot. We have lots of power outages in the summer due to storms and also during the winter as well do to ice storms. the plus or minus depending on the time of year you are using them. They give off a fair amount of heat. At least when you have 2 or 3 going at the same time. So in the winter time they will keep a small to medium room somewhat heated. Great video!
Do you know that kerosene from oil was invented by Polish chemist Filip Walter.And the kerosene lamp invented in 1853 -polish farmacist Ignacy Łukasiewicz.I love to look at the light from kerosene lamp(people have alwayse love fire). Greeting from Poland.
In fact, NOT. Kerosene was invented by Abraham Gesner, who Was born and died in Nova Scotia. Filip Walter invented a lot of stuff. But Kerosene wasn't one of those inventions. .en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Pineo_Gesner
.......something lost in translation perhaps . For oil lamps it's always been about using an oil with right characteristics ,therefore it need not be what we call kerosene . A boiling point of around 570°f and flash point at around 100°f is especially required for pressure lantern and stoves but when we have a wick then it ain't so critical. Vegetable oils , animal oils n fats have been around for the purpose for a long time. Then fractional distillation from tar and oil shale was developed in1840s then crude oil was discovered . Here in Australia we no longer can realistically purchase kerosene , and only 200 barrels produced daily . Interestingly the introduction of LED lighting and solar panels for third world played a big part in drop of oil prices years ago. Today kerosene ain't produced in great quantities any longer .
I just found a Dietz Air Pilot# 8 lantern that some left in the woods. The globe was broken so I just wet on line and ordered a new one. Love this lantern. By far the best one on the market. Nice review. Good job.
You mentioned the cost of the Dietz at $20 from Lee Valley in Canada. In 2022 it’s now $50 for the same lantern. That’s a huge mark up in just six years. Still a nice lantern, especially if the price point was a bit lower.
Yes, I saw that last week as well. They were $28 until about a year ago, then $35. But $50? That's either a major supply issue or just plain price gouging. I noticed that a lot of Lee Valley inventory has jumped in price considerably in the past 6-12 months, and that's sad.
Enjoyed your video.. (I'm an old critter) Soo, my Grandfather lived between 1836 & 1923..I remember hearing family members telling about the old days. Mother was in charge of cleaning the lamps because she had small hands. Also they did not trim the wicks like I keep seeing. They used a "cathead" trimmed wick...A " V" was cut in the top of the wick. Try this and let me know what you think...
Thanks. That isn't the first time I've heard of trimming the wick in a "V" but the first time I've heard it called a "cathead". I'm trying this out, but I have a feeling that it aplies to dead-flame oil lamps instead of hot- and cold-blast lanterns, which use a different type of air supply.
I use POR 15 to seal all my lanterns.. Just pour in 1/2 OZ. swirl it around and dump the left over back into the can. Let it dry 24-30 hrs before use.... A pint will do a dozen of lamps
Sir, what an absolutely brilliant idea! I cleaned and sealed the rusting interior of the petrol tank on my 1975 motorcycle with a POR15 kit. When it was finished the tank interior was factory fresh, rust free and sealed. I was thrilled with the product. It saved the tank.
Yes it works great. I have a 100 or so year old GSW lantern. It leaks. That is the very stuff I'm going to use on it. Cleaner first then the sealer. Doing a gas tank on a welder at the same time.
I have used kerosene lamps as an anchor light on my boat for decades. I use K1 kerosene. If you can't find kerosene, you can burn mineral spirits, and it burns very clean. They swing back and forth with the boat's roll, and are out in 40 MPH winds. I am betting my life on it, as big boats go by. Deitz stays lit. Wicks on Ebay are $6 for 15 feet. Cheapo lanterns soot up, flare up, and blow out. You can depend on a Deitz. PS I have run Coleman lamps on unleaded gas for over 50 years with no problems. I started with Amoco high test, and now all gas is lead free. You can also burn kerosene in them, if you preheat the generator with a propane torch, but it shortens generator life.
I agree on the Dietz lanterns - they have never let me down. And lately I've been using K1 kerosene as well and it seems to last a long while. And yes, I have one of those 15 foot wicks n order tomorrow. Also, something else to point out - el cheapo lanterns also leak. Nothing wrecks an evening like cleaning kerosene off your wooden deck. That's a great point about Colemans, too. I drop a capful of Seafoam fuel treatment in the tank to clean out the generator, and I got that tip off a guy who also told me the same thing about using kerosene in Coleman lanterns as well.
You know with white gas and lanterns powerd by 18v drill batteries the light output is weak. Some of these lights will go for 40 hours non stop or a week with night usage.. The dietz 80 is cool but like everything else you have to have fuel for it.. My 2 4ah batteries will go 10 hours each nonstop so break it down into night hours and you have a solid week on em.. If u r car campin u can recharge em.. If not then the Dietz maybe a better option. I am just glad I have both
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Having a tough time with choosing colors. Base color might have been dark grey. Since there are some "ribs" to the two uprights, wanted to paint them a striking color...but still looking. Thinking about using an electrolysis process to remove most of the rust, a lot of hard to reach areas as you know.
I have several Dietz brand and fuerhand brand barn lamps I have noticed some people are carrying them backpacking without a case just on the outside of their packs any idea how to travel thru the woods and protect the glass chimney? Tks for your time. Simon
Great video, thanks for posting! You might want to experiment with some different wick trimmings, e.g. straight across with just the corners snipped off. Your flame is very triangular, and looks like it would start smoking at the top before you get all the benefits you could from the sides of the flame. I think the best flame you can get is more like a big square, with no tall points to generate smoke and soot. The best trim will probably depend on your particular lantern model, though. Have you tried many trim styles before settling on this one?
Actually, I was wondering about that and I did some experimenting and then shot a video on it. th-cam.com/video/Ksm6Tr1J6to/w-d-xo.html And straight across is the way to go. But the wick in the video above was rounded.
I found that the shape of the slot in the flame spreader has an effect on the type of haircut I give my wicks. Those that are pinched inward slightly seem to do better with a round cut. You mileage may vary.
Nice little tip about soaking rubber in vinegar. Was considering buying a Coleman I saw in a resale shop. Didn't know what kind of fuels you could use with them, so thanx for that, too.
Thanks! That is actually a tip I got from a number of 19th Century "recipes" books. Many of those old hints are not suitable today - like using white lead for patching roofs - but the vinegar tip still works.
Sure got a winner with a Dietz, Dean; Only encounter I've had with the Knock-Off is, I converted mine 2 a Bird Feeder.Been 6 years now & she's doing just what I intended she would do ! Didn't know the Deitz were selling 4 that price will have 2 check on the price here. Thanks 4 sharing Friend. ATB Terry God Bless
+T.W. Milburn (skillet210) For the price they're a great lantern. And very low maintenance too - I clean the globes once or twice a season, fill the tanks and trim and replace the wicks when needed, but otherwise they just sit there on the shelf.
And according to Dietz, the burner is especially designed to go out in 20 seconds or less if the lantern is tipped over. I don't know how Dietz did that, but if you're using lamp oil or kerosene, it works.
I have 2 old Dietz lanterns. A Dietz Comet in almost new condition, made in Syracuse. And a Dietz Dee Lite, made in New York City in pretty nice shape. They work like new.
The power goes out weeks at a time out where I lived during the Ice storm. I have three hurricane lanterns, and 3 kerosene lamps. But I have been working on a joule thief circuit to use old batteries witch is little more than a night light. A Coleman lanterns will heat your room if it is small but runs through the fuel quick. A kerosene lamp with a good wick and deep tank will last many hours and it is simple.
Thanks, and you're correct! My oldest Dietz lantern is now more than 20 years old and other than a bit of squeakiness, it's still in excellent condition. I also like these because they're safer than tiki torches and cast a nice warm glow on the patio or in the back yard.
I have two deitz number 2 lanterns, they put out a good amount of light, one's coller is split tho, so it leaks when shaken a bit otherwise is really good
I (well, I will when it arrives) use a Hurricane Lantern regularly, I live out on a small island in mälaren, a lake in Sweden that is connected to Stockholm, for school, and the walk to the bus stop doesn't have any streetlights as the island is essentially out in the forest. Since we are entering the darker and colder parts of the year, I need to make my way in the dark (i don't have a car), last year I spent a small fortune on batteries for my flashlight due to me using it a lot, as well as the winter cold diminishing the performance of them, I think I spent the equivalent of around $30 a week just on batteries. So this year I'm gonna use a more economical option, with an oil lamp! That as well as the fact I think they are very cool!
I've got a small Dietz '76 "The Original", a Japanese Soling "Sun Brand" no. 5000, as well as what I believe are two General Steel Wares no. 2s and a no. 3, all three being old Canadian-made Beacons. The no. 2 Beacons are very similar to your Dietz. I prefer the strong, bright light provided by Coleman pressure lanterns, but hurricane lamps are nice every now and then. Strangely enough, my smallest hurricane lantern, the Dietz '76, is probably also the brightest.
Nice - I'd love a couple of those other brands. And I think the reason the Dietz is the brightest is because it's a cold-blast style of lantern and Dietz perfected those. Other dead-flame or hot-blast types don't seem to throw as much light. I should have a video up soon explaining some of that stuff.
You have more then I. Love Dietz. Also it takes the frost off in a 4 season tent. The one you showed is the best 1,400 btu. 4 of then is equal to 1,500 watt heater.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thanks - I note that the modern ones are made in Hong Kong I think, and the metal and finish is not the best - all very thin too but it does the job and is very lightweight.
@@AnthonyFrancisJones Actually, Dietz moved the entire factory to Hong Kong back in 1956. And I've been buying them for 20 years, with the last one a few years ago and I haven't noticed a difference. Could be yours had a quality control issue? In any case, I'll see what my next lantern looks like, because you may be right about that.
No, i m sorry, I noticed from several forum and supplier in Europe. Infact now the prices are higher than before and many pieces are impossible to find. If you try to write an email to their site you will see that they have a full email box and it is months that I write. I loved that lantern and now is dead 😞
🇨🇦 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 Ah. Good day, ah. Great presentation on the Dietz. Coleman does make a great kerosene lamp. Yes, white gas/ unleaded gas has potential issues in operation. Thank you.
Dietz manufactures in Asia now. The have for a number of years. Still nice lantern... the 80 is tall and burns for around 26 hours. They're not very expensive... about 50 bucks.
Hi!, I use paraffin oil, no scent, burns clean, no fumes, no mess, but I would like to be able to use vegetable oil, cheaper, much more common. I hear you have to adapt the burner to use veggie oil, can't find any video on adapting my collection of Dietz Lanterns to veggie oil. I have 12 different Dietz lanterns of different sizes, some antique, some modern ( up to the size 80 lantern - two of them). We live in rural Alabama near the Tallapoosa River, and hurricanes and tornados kill the power very often - so those lanterns come in useful, and I mean very useful. I keep 7gallons of paraffin oil, but that type of oil is becoming costly and rare to find. We hate using K-1 kerosene because of the fumes, and nobody keeps the stuff at gas stations anymore. Wal-Mart ought to be ashamed at the price they charge for 1.5 liter cans of the stuff ($8 USD each). So vegetable oil is the reason I am here looking for the alternate way to buy, convert, or change the burners to use the stuff. Anybody have any ideas?
Nice purchase - and you're going to love your Blizzard! I was saving this for an upcoming video, but if you ever need parts for the Blizzard (especially wicks), I now have an Amazon Influencer store at www.amazon.com/shop/albertabushcrafter . I got a bit frustrated searching for gear so when Amazon asked me, I signed up. And there's an entire category on the store for Dietz lanterns as well because they're so great.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter oh man that's great. I'll check it out. Honestly the place I've ordered all my Dietz stuff from is a so called omish store. They charge 4-5 times as much as anyone else. 😃 You know who I'm talking about.
I have my old white gas colemans and have fuel for em but with having a generator etc long term would be an issue.. My dietz 80 throws weak light but as simple as it is it will work regardless. I bought thr dietz because i was turning into a Coleman nut but i got the blue Dietz 80 for $25ish and walmart has a quart of lamp oil for like $2
Just got my Dietz #80 in today and it's very cool. It wouldnt be my 1st choice camping. I have 3 coleman 220s and 1 200A along with LEDs and a work light that connects to my drill. I used my 220 and my work light on low with a 1.5ah battery for an overnight and that was plenty. I think the Dietz would be a nice ambient backup but if I were tight on space in my car for camping the coleman is going over the Dietz.
I'd agree. I keep the Dietz lanterns at home, and many folks use them in cabins and such. The Coleman is what I bring for serious light - because they don't dim down too much. For regular lighting and power backup I use a GoalZero LightHouse 400, which throws a good amount of light, will function as a backup battery to charge a phone, and has a hand crank for recharging as well.
I haven't had a problem with my cheap wally world lamp. But the 1/2 inch wick doesn't produce much light. I do like my #2 champion though. the 7/8 inch wick is the way to go.
My el-cheapo World Famous lantern that I bought at Wally World has the same wick and you're right - it's too small. But you're luckier than me, as the lantern I have leaked kerosene all over a wooden deck. That's the only time I haven't used a Dietz and I won't buy cheap lanterns again. Especially when the #80 is only about $28 CDN.
Dean, I know this conversation is old but I know it gets read alot so- I AGREE !! If that fuel had leaked, say, on to a CARPET or a THROW RUG on your porch and ignited...it may very well of taken your house down -or WORSE - So its BEST to stay the heck away fron those " cheap mart" lanterns except as a " decoration only"
I got a little wizard with kerosene in it. Surprisingly, it doesn't smell like kerosene when it burns. I think it depends on how big of a flame you're burning and if your kerosene is still good.
Tonight was the first time i had to use a hurricane lantern for my only light source for an extended time, no phone screen or pc. Found out an interesting thing. That warm yellow light you percieve when you first light it will turn more white after a while in your perception. Turns out your brain decided what is white. Thought id share as its just a little oddity that i noticed and had never thought about.
Actually, the flame actually does burn whiter as it warms up. You might not see it in footage due to Automatic White Balance, but in a 'cold blast' lantern, the wick is lit as a dead flame, where the fuel has an inefficient burn & half the fuel goes up in vapor. The globe is the. Lowered & all the pipework creates an active draft, increasing airflow & efficiency; the fuel is more completely consumed by the freshly oxygenated flame, creating a higher temperature, causing the carbonization & sulphur on the wick & immediate flame to glow a brilliant white. Think turbocharger.
Remember, this lantern isn't special for being wind resistant. It's special for being with resistant AND as bright as a tabletop lantern. It's also why they stank up the place compared to other lamps.
I actually like the Stansport brand for a more affordable alternative. Since you can by them at Walmart you can exchange them if they leak. What you do is fill them with water to leak test them. You can also get a Dietz 12” model that has the same size tank with as the “cheap” ones. For someone that is interested in having one for bushcraft, or even camping trips there’s an 8” model that is made by Dietz and Stansport. It holds about 6 oz of fuel, and gets up to about 10 to 15 hours of burn time. I have the Stansport version that works great in a tent, or even a bathroom during power failures. Being smaller it’s obviously not as bright. I’m currently looking into getting a couple Dietz Jupiter models. They hold 80 oz of fuel, and uses the same size Wick as the Blizzard. Dietz says it will burn for 75 hours on a single fill. Also it was by accidental design that they will snuff themselves out if tipped over. When they tip over the flame naturally points up and gets trapped inside the burner cover. This is actually true with any hurricane lantern.
The next ones on my wish list are the Millennium Cooker (a modified Jupiter), an Air Pilot or Little Wizard, and a Monarch hot-blast lantern. But I've used the Stansports too and a lot of them leak. It's good that they can be replaced under warranty or fixed with fuel tank liner. But if they're on your deck and they leak overnight, you are never getting that smell out of the wood no matter how you try. Trust me on that. That's why I stopped buying them.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter the Millennium Cooker is on my short list as well. I grew up in South Florida, and am all to familiar with going without power for weeks and even months. I’ve even showed teens how to make a olive oil lamp from an old tuna can, some strips of denim, and a piece of wire to use as a pick to adjust the wick. Supposedly you can use some strips of cotton or linen as a wick in a hurricane lantern, and it lets you use olive oil, but I haven’t tried it.
Hi Dean, my name is Peter. I am looking for a clear Jupiter 2 globe for my Jupiter oil lantern that was built in Poland. My GLOBE measurements ( the top of the globe is 2 3/8", the bottom is 2 5/8". The length of the globe from top to bottom is 5 3/4"". My chimney is about 4" long. The diameter of where the globe sits is 3" bottom and 2.5" on top where it meets the chimney. Do you have any idea where I could get a Clear Jupiter 2 Globe. Do you sell any? Would greatly appreciate any help or ideas you could offer me. Thanks. Made in POLAND.
I think I know just the place. W T Kirkman sells a lot of replacement globes and hardware. They're at: lanternnet.com/ . I've had good success with them.
It's possible but I would be concerned about the speed it wicks fuel. Dietz specifically states that vegetable oil doesn't work at all in these lanterns and I've confirmed that, but with a carbon fiber wick, who knows? It might work but I'm a bit doubtful. One tip, though, and it might help: use the most refined stuff you can find. In other words, use the stuff that is the least healthy for you. Refined oils contain fewer solids which will clog any wick, no matter what it's made of. That's why cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil never works - too many solids.
Hi, just found your channel. Good shit. Picked up a Dietz Little Wizard no. 30. Thick heavy duty original globe, works well, but cannot find any information on it. Am in New Zealand, gets dark here too....
First, conrgats on finding a Little Wizard! They're great little lanterns. As for information, my go-to source is W.H. Kirkman in the US - he's got a ton of good info and great prices on replacement parts, though the shipping can be high. The site is at: www.lanternnet.com/ .
See those two tubes on the sides that go from the top right down to the base? Those pull warmed air from the shroud around the chimney down to the burner. And it’s called a cold blast lantern because the exhaust gases don’t feed directly back to the burner. That ring at the top of the glass globe is a heat exchanger and it heats fresh air slightly lower down from the stale exhaust air.
Do you have a favorite/reliable source for decent-quality 7/8" wicks, as used in the Dietz No. 80? I see Lee Valley still stock them, and right now they have free shipping even for modest orders. Everyone favorite red triangle store have 3.78 L jugs of the Citronella lamp oil - not at the "end of season" price, but the full gallon is only a few dollars more than 1L. Way back when, my dad was a wholesale supplier for outfitters, and he used to have these, as well as Primus and Optimus kerosene-burning lamps and stoves (Also Tilley wire-mesh mantle heaters from the UK). Unfortunately, I did not stock up on these items before he retired, but I did manage to hang on to a few of the "samples" - family pricing but not free, LOL. I grew up amidst all of the gear used by outfitters, guides, prospectors and so on - wall tents that were canvas and heavy-duty, and pretty much anything a camp might need. All gear that's a far cry from the stuff sold for "recreational use" today. But I digress. I've called around a bit, but have not found a good local source for the 7/8" wick in central Alberta. So, I thought you might know of one. W.W. Arcade are long gone - what a pity.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thank you kindly for that information. I will hop over to Amazon and check that out right now. After reading all the comments about K1 Kerosene, I thought it worth looking around, and there are sources not too far away. Again, the price for 1 gallon is much better than 1L. Likewise, the savings are proportionally better for containers larger than a gallon. Don't want to go overboard, but it's worth having some fuel on hand for emergencies. Many thanks!
@@jimbaritone6429 There are a couple of stores up here that periodically sell the 3-gallon containers at less than $25 on sale. Sometimes around $20 or so - that store is Princess Auto. but you have to be quick as the people with ice fishing huts snap it up.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Many thanks! As it happens, I am at this very moment on the PA web site - I'll see what their current price is. I've lucked out with sale items from PA before; as you say it's often a matter of getting in quickly. A new Dietz #80 from Lee Valley would be a nice addition also. The green/gold ones are nice to look at, and when you handle one it's clear that they're not like the tinplate leaky cheapies. I'll be looking through your Amazon store as well. Thank you for the head's up. PA is my "go to" for many things, & this will be one more. Thank you for the head's up!
you know that coleman fuel, naptha is the same as unleaded gas, but without the additive package right? they got almost the same flash point and vapour pressure.
Yes. But unleaded gas varies from season to season depending on those additives, and those additives will often gunk up your stove. I have a video coming out on how to fix that.
@@Francois_Dupont It isn't if you're using a lantern or stove designed for white gas - you just need to clean the generator more often. And #1 ULSD diesel is essentially 1-K kerosene, so I'll be testing it this year. But just try to use naphtha or unleaded fuel in a kerosene lantern - if you're lucky, you won't burn your house, cabin or campsite down. The chimney effect of a cold-blast lantern like a Dietz can and does turn it into a very effective blowtorch. And if you buy an el-cheapo, the tank may leak as well. And that's no exaggeration. On a trip a few years ago, I saw an idiot two sites down from me do exactly that. He wanted to "go retro" with his piece-of-crap, $5 discount store lantern, and filled it from the gas can he used for his car. And he lit it, even though the others with him warned him not to. The guy burned up a brand-new $25,000 custom Tab trailer because he was too arrogant or stupid to read a set of directions.
If I happen across one, I'll consider picking one up. But my eye is on a few more Dietz lanterns from Kirkman. Great company, and I subscribe to them on TH-cam too.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter .Thanks, I have a small restoration and up cycling business on Etsy and I had an enquiry from France regarding a 555 blizzard lantern. This was stamped on the bowl and it looked similar to a Deitz. Thanks again.😀
Aaaand look at that.... 12 hours after I release this video, my resident troll has to come out from under his poop-stained rock and give me a Dislike. This is why you don't see me collaborate much with the survival and prepper community on TH-cam or elsewhere. But it's nice to see that someone out there cares enough to hate me in such a cowardly manner. :D
Alberta Bushcrafter A TH-cam video isn't a TH-cam video without dislikes. I don't understand why people just dislike videos though. Like what's the point? I don't see any good rational explanation for it.
OK, now there's your like #172 from me. I have over 100 kerosene lanterns. I enjoy getting them working after they have been sitting unused for decades. I have a roof deck and often bring out a few on nice evenings. Its amazing that they can sit unused for a few years and they light right up without troubles.
@Headwhacker Thanks for the vote of confidence! (And I love your choice of TH-cam handle as well). Dietz and Feuerhand lanterns are both excellent quality, but I prefer Dietz simply because they're a bit more available and a bit less expensive. Good luck with the shopping!
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Most of them are stored in deck boxes outside but there are 17 of the rarer ones hanging in my room right now. They all work. When the weather gets good I will start using the roof deck with lanterns some more. Stay safe up there!
Thanks..love your video..i have a dietz hurricane #80 blizzard..was wondering the best oil to use..have kerosene in it now..will try the tiki or citronella..my globe is sooty, now I know why..thank you
Perfect timing! I'm working on a couple of videos on Dietz lanterns and this is one of the Q&A topics. Citronella is a nice substitute but don't use it indoors as apparently it is a bit toxic.
Stored around 65 degrees, lamp oil lasts forever. The cheap lanterns are worth having you just have to be careful with them. But you're right the Dietz are better.
I like a Dietz too in certain applications, however I don't believe that the Dietz No.80 produces 1/3 of the light of a Coleman pressure lantern - Colemans vary greatly depending on the model and mantle used, but the lowest classic - a 200 with a 21 mantel produces about 200 candle power. According to "Victory Wicks" which sells Dietz lanterns, the output of the No. 80 is 12 candle power. My Coleman 236 (made in 1955) produces 500 candle power. Nevertheless, in certain applications, you gotta love the Dietz. If I am wrong about the cp of a Dietz No. 80 please advise! Thanks! Liked the video.
That's why I also have a Coleman lantern. I use it as a backup and it's a great lantern. I even have a friend that converted his to kerosene (and diesel), and with a bit of extra maintenance you can run the white gas Coleman stoves and lanterns on unleaded gas, though you clean them a lot more.
Yes, trying to run Coleman lanterns on unleaded gas can be done, but it clogs the generators very quickly, and they can be very difficult to clean. With white gas a generator should last at least 1000 hours of burn time.
Add a capful of Seafoam fuel additive per tank (that's the white and red can). Even though it doesn't work well on modern vehicles it works better than denatured alcohol. I even use the stuff with white gas to keep the generator clean.
Coleman makes kerosene fueled mantle pressure lanterns as well. You can identify one because it will have a brass cup under the mantle for preheat fuel. You need to heat up the generator and tubing before lighting it. I use a teaspoon of 90% rubbing alcohol to preheat. I think the light is just as white as a white gas fueled Coleman.
Have you ever found that you need to loosen the fill cap when burning a dietz lantern? Mine was spitting and acting like it had water in the wick however i loosened up the cap so it could breath and it started burning smooth. its as if the burner was a little to air tight.
Actually no, I haven't had to do that but I think I may know what the issue might be. Those two tubes on either side of the globe also carry air to the burner so if they're blocked it could be the issue.
Hey guys I have a question that no one is answering on any videos about these. What happens to the fuel in the reservoir of the lantern when i shut it off? Does it evaporate? If so how long does that take? Is there a way to preserve it like putting some kind of cap over the wick spout to prevent the oil from evaporating? Any information would be appreciated. Ty for the video it was good otherwise.
Kerosene, lamp oil and similar fuels are not very volatile, so they don't evaporate quickly at all. I've used a full lantern two years after I filled it and it didn't seem to have lost more than a tablespoon or two. The only thing you might want to do is empty the fuel into an approved container if you know you're not using it for a while, but that's something you should do anyway for fire safety.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter awsome. I've seen people in movies and stuff walk into an old cabin and light one of those lanterns... so popular depiction is that it lasts for a long time. But you never know with tv. Thank you for your response.
Nice explanation. I might buy 1. Do u recommend leaving it on out side, by a side walk and leave for a few hours so it will be on when you arrive back home?
Not really, since this is a live flame we're talking about you shouldn't leave it unattended. And in my neighborhood, I hang them up when I'm using them, but put them away after. That's because there are too many idiots in my area who'd love to help themselves to a free "antique" lantern. (And no, "idiots" wasn't my first choice of words there - it was my eleventh.)
I live in an apartment and they turn off the water for repairs about once a month. They don't give us intelligent notice so more than once I've been on the toilet in the morning and gotten a text saying "we've just turned the water off." I can at least flush but i can't even wash my hands. If i want to use emergency water I have to touch it with dirty hands which isn't ideal. Need to keep a gallon in the bathroom I guess. Anyway not having water unpredictably is no fun.
I bought a couple 3 and 5 gallon water jugs and I keep them topped up for just such a water outage. And they come in very handy if the power goes out, meaning my well pump is out too.
Lamp oil and tiki torch fuel work well. Someone suggested BBQ lighter fluid, but that can be even more expensive than kerosene. Diesel can be used - in fact, I've seen articles that say that #1 ULSD (ultra-low sulfur diesel) is almost identical to kerosene, but I find it a bit smellier. And some people say they've had good results with plain old vegetable oil, except extra-virgin olive oil (which clogs the wick), but I haven't experimented with that yet.
I've heard that they can, but cooking oils can also clog up the wick, others say. I'd stick with kerosene or lamp fuel, because I've used the lantern wick in home-made oil lamps and sure enough, it clogged up after an hour.
What can you do if you need/want to use these lamps indoors and opening windows may not be an option? Is there a lamp or type of oil that is better for this?
Kerosene is OK though a bit smelly, but lamp oil is a bit more refined and works quite well. Don't use anything with citronella in it indoors, thought, as it's a bit toxic. All flame lanterns from the old Dietz lanterns to the modern Coleman ones warn against using a lantern indoors without adequate ventilation, though.
factory info on the Dietz No.80 Blizzard (you won't get 40 watts from any flat wick lantern you will have to go to an Aladdin or similar with a mantle). From Dietz info "The lantern gives off a 12-candlepower light, burns continuously for up to 26 hours without refueling and goes out automatically if the lantern tips over."
Yeah, I wouldn't say "automatically". It takes a moment or two. And I'd love to get my hands on an Aladdin, but they're rare as sane people these days.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter I am sure that you can push the flame on a lamp like this for some additional output but it will soot up on you and just make things worse. A crinkled up sheet of tinfoil on one side of the globe is the easiest way to get greater light output is by reflecting light emission form one side of the lamp to the other. Automatically simply means the lamp will self extinguish on its own, it dose not refer to the time that it takes to do that only that it will put itself out if knocked over. Yes it won't go out in an instant but it will put itself out. The Diets No.80 Blizzard is a fine looking lantern. Are you above 4000-5000 feet elevation? If so I wonder if you have notice much difference between a squat globe lantern design such as a D-Lite and a tall globe like your Dietz No. 80? I have read that above about 4000 feet the taller globe produces a stronger draft and they are said to burn brighter as a result. I think that if you have two lanterns with the two different style globes but which are the same overall height then the chimney draft ought to be more or less identical as you have the same height and overall draft. A taller lantern would definitely produce a stronger draft and I would expect them to be a little brighter. I think the easiest thing to do to have a bright lantern is to not let if smoke on light up and to let the lamp warm up for 5 minutes or longer if it is really cold before turning up the flame. A soot covered globe eats up/wastes a lot of light output. Wicks with a sharp point tend to soot more when turned up, a 45 degree angle clipped off at the ends on a straight cut wick or a crescent profile wick seem to produce less soot when turned up but everybody has their own favorite way to trim a wick.
@@morayjames92 Yes, that's correct. Lanterns with taller chimneys like the Blizzard do produce a stronger draft. And they're brighter too, but you have to readjust the wick more often as a result as the flame most definitely changes after warming up too. I'm working on a couple of videos on that topic. Also - I've found that when using foil as a reflector for any light source, the flatter it is, the better. Crinkly foil diffuses the light a lot more. And sticking a wine glass or similar globe in front of the flame actually concentrates the light as it acts like a lens. That's an old-timer trick I learned once.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter after looking at a couple of squat globe lanterns and some similar height long glass chimney lanterns like your Dietz No.80 Blizzard it is pretty easy to see where the draft issue lies and it is not the overall height but the fact that the tall glass chimney globes offer a more laminar air flow where as the squat globes in combination with the lantern have discontinuances which cause the draft to be less effectual. The smooth tall glass chimney globes result is a smoother faster and so more powerful draft. The squat globe lanterns generate more turbulence in the draft reducing its speed and power. will watch out for your new videos.
Im using some Diesel with white-spirit of refined petrol. 2 Us Gallons with 17 Oz white-spirit of refined petrol. We call it here (wasbenzine) in NLD. It seems to burn good in my Dietz air pilot#8 with 7/8 wick. The viscosity is perfect now. 5.2 gallons of kerosene cost me $57 usd in the Netherlands. 1 gallon of diesel cost 5 usd. Farm light Lamp oil cost 2.5 usd per liter, but its not good for the wick. Fuel is very expensive here in the Netherlands. Some people Mixing Diesel with Alcohol , but alcohol is hygroscopic. I don't want water in my fuel.
Lamp oil and espeecially kerosene are quite expensive in Canada too. No. 1 ULSD diesel is about $4 CDN here and works just as well. I don't mix mine with gasoline, or white spirit of petrol (aka. white gas, naptha, or Coleman fuel) , and not with ethanol either as it is definitely hygroscopic (aka. hydrophilic). 91% rubbing alcohol or better, and a capful of Diesel Kleen does the trick as isopropanol doesn't attract water vapor as much. I have a video in the works describing a few kerosene altrnatives, as there are a few other fuels that work well,.
Actually, it's not really safe to burn anything in a tent - even a campstove. Besides the fire hazard and burn hazard, there's also the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Dietz original No. 76 oil lamp. 10 inch looks to be the same size and super light as your red one. It cost only 11.99 in USA from W. Kirkman website. If you overfill any small lamp it will leak. I've not done that yet. . The10 inch, It don't give off much light even on high. You do need a large one if you want to be able to read. I'd like to see you light that 80 lantern.
Well my Dietz 80 aint no flood light compare to my coleman 220s but in complete darkness id rather have the Dietz than nothing.. The light ouput really fails in comparison to a white gas BUT the Dietz is even more basic with essentially nothing to go wrong.. I am glad I have both.. I am sittin here in my backyarrd in the city with my Dietz on the table.. I found hung up high it doesnt do much
Absolutely. I've taken them out in a rainstorm where the rain was almost blowing sideways. The Dietz lanterns worked great, while my Coleman white gas lantern didn't.
@@Kaputnik11 Definitely upgrade. The el-cheapo lanters have another problem: they can leak. And kerosene or lamp oil are really tough on the nostrils and a total pain to remove from wood or concrete.
Is that actually a Coleman lantern or a "Coleman style lantern?" Two reasons I ask: 1) the ventilator looks a little weird, 2) my Coleman white gas lanterns 200A, 220, and 295 will burn for about 10 hours on a tank (not an hour or 2). They'll all also burn pump gas also, btw. Also love my Dietz #1 Little Wizard for different reasons.
Silly question. I bought 2 tiny cheapo hurricane lanterns from Walmart that I primed with paraffin lamp oil, I then drained the oil out and put them on my shelf after I determined that they worked properly, can I just keep the oil in or did I do the right thing by putting the unused oil back in the bottle?. I often have candles lit but they are proprietary and I'd rather just burn one of my mini hurricane lanterns instead. I'm just trying to find a good balance.
@@thecreeper6799 Usually if I'm storing a lantern for a while, I put the fuel in a separate bottle. The fuel doesn't oxidize much, but should the lantern ever spring a leak, you'll get lantern fuel everywhere and it stinks. I had an el-cheapo lantern I bought once that was fine for three years, and then somehow sprung a leak, so ever since then, I take the extra step of storing the fuel separately.
First, check out the Henschel or in this case, Outback Trading Company website for a particular style. Second, search for a better price and buy it there. Mine is an Outback Trading Company original oilskin hat, and I got it for 45% less at a local outdoors tore that is now gone (Wholesale Sports). But as soon as I figure out the proper way to restore the coating again, I'll post a new video on that too. There's no reason a good hat like this can't last 25 years or more.
Some say you can but no, it's not recommended. Olive oil is too thick to work efficiently in the wick and it clogs up - and that is especially true of extra-virgin, cold-pressed olive oil becaise it has a lot of tiny solids left in it.
I'm trying to get an old deitz no 6 supreme back into service and the burner assembly is rusted tight. It looks very similar to the deitz in your video. I could really use clarification on how the burner assembly comes apart. I don't want to force anything and break my lamp. Is the outside burner assembly housing threaded or is it more of a "quarter turn" type deal? I think I see a metal lip on it that slides underneath a catch to secure it but I'm not sure. This part of your video goes really fast and is partially cut out by the camera. I'm almost certain the burner just pulls straight up after you remove the outer burner housing (ring) but as I said, I want to be sure before I break something. Appreciate your channel and time making this and other videos.
On all Dietz lanterns I've seen (and that's a lot), the outer burner cover is a quarter turn deal held in by tabs, and the inner burner and wick just lifts out after you remove the outer cover. And in the US, the best source for tons of burners and other parts is W.T. Kirkman at lanterns.us/ - great supplier. And thanks for the compliment!
And also VERY expensive. A single-fuel Coleman stove goes for $169.99 CAD or more. Dual-fuel stoves are even higher if you can find them. So the lanterns are also super-high-price right now, until the supply chain issues get resolved. But I doubt they'll even drop after that. Every store out there seems to be using "the outdoors" as a license to gouge everyone.
Would it be alright to use a smaller than specified wick to reduce brightness and extend fuel duration, say, 5/8" instead of 7/8"? Reason being, a couple of these lanterns are going to be used mostly for atmospheric effect, not a powerful light source, and the longer the burn time, the better.
You're probably going to laugh, but my answer is "yes" - but only because I've done it by mistake. I once bought the wrong size of wick for my Dietz lanterns, and the smaller wick worked fine. However, it does depend on the thickness of the wick, because if it's thinner than the one you normally use it may not grab properly in the burner and the adjuster knob may not move it up and down as smoothly (or at all). That's happened to me too.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Well, hey, mistakes are how we learn, right? I'm happy to borrow the lessons from yours. :) And I wouldn't have thought about the thickness varying between sizes. Thanks for your thoughts!
I caution against it. You would be leaving holes beside the wick which could result in more fuel reaching the flame if tipped over. Can be dangerous. Use the correct size wick always. These can be turned down very low and still burn well.
You can try trimming the wick straight across. But other than that, to increase brightness you need to turn the wick up a bit, but not so high that it smokes excessively.
Funny you asked that, because I'm doing exactly that right now. Citronella lamp or torch oil works fine in kerosene lanterns as they have very similar compositions. So does low-sulfur diesel, in fact, but I only use it in my big torch heater as it'll eat anything.
Hi ... Just watched your video on the Old School: The Dietz No. 80 Hurricane Lantern ... I think in your video you said they were approx $20 where you are...... wish I could get them here for that price... over here in Australia they fetch Aust$110+ > ... you don't want to send a couple over this way... lol.. regards Keith
Wow - we have the same thing happening in Canada with some products. I see some items up here that are three to ten times the price of what they are in the US, and that's pure highway robbery. But you may have better luck with lanternnet.com (W.H. Kirkman) as they apparently ship internationally.
I got my Dietz #80 for $14.99 US and with shipping I was at $21 dollars US. Are they that expensive for you on Amazon? Lehmans was the amazon affiliate I bought from. Wonder of they'd ship to Australia..
@@Mixwell1983 Amazon Canada is VERY hit-and-miss. Usually the shipping is cheaper (or free), but I checked Dietz lanterns and they run from $35 to $101, for the same lantern! That's because there are a lot of online gougers and thieves out there who think that Canada is some third-world socialist backwater full of drooling idiots who will pay anything for what they want. I check many other sources online first before hitting Amazon. And there are retail stores (traditional and online) up here which sell Dietz lanterns for $17 to $35 depending on the model, so they're usually my first choice. The lanterns in the video cost me $18 apiece at Lee Valley Tools and I picked them up on my way home from work.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter ... Hi again.. well we just went onto Amazon and they show up to us for between US$14.95 to US$29.95 and had US$25.00 shipping.. so we added to the cart and them it was they couldn't ship 3rd party items... and to try Amazon.com.au which we did.. it shows up as Dietz #80 Blizzard Oil Burning Lantern (Bronze) by Dietz Price: $155.58 free post ... talk about getting ripped off.... I thought it would be Great having Amazon here in Australia.. but the prices are over the top. Keith
Actually, no . I leave it in the lantern. Kerosene and lamp oil is not very volatile so it doesn't evaporate quickly. One of those lanterns was left on the shelf for 18 months and still had almost all of the fuel left. I think only about 5% evaporated, if that.
Alberta Bushcrafter I was going to buy two of these but then I did some digging around in the attic and I found two working ww2 era hurricane lanterns. So I guess I'll just use them.
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A few tips for new users of hurricane lanterns (most can also be applied to normal oil lamps). Essential oils can be added to the fuel whether it’s kerosene or lamp oil to help with the chemical odor. When adjusting the flame slowly adjust it up, and as soon as you see black smoke come out adjust it back down until it stops, and that’s your lantern’s maximum flame size. If you have an older lantern that leaks due you can use a pour in fuel tank liner like they use in motorcycle and car fuel tanks. It’s recommended to clean your lantern, and trim the wick weekly. There’s different ways to trim the wick to change how the flame works, and I think everyone should play around with the shape to find which one they prefer. Also to prolong Wick life don’t let the tank get more than half empty. This helps keep the fuel moving up to the top of the Wick faster and easier which helps slow down the actual burning of the wick itself. It’s also recommended by many that if you are using kerosene to empty the lantern if you’re not going to be using it for long periods of use. The kerosene will break down and make the lantern unusable.
My grandfathers blizzard DIETZ NEW YORK lantern is about 100 years old now and still lights my maple syrup operation late at night. Simple tools like hammers and chisels never go out of style or use! New wicks and oil still available at any hardware store of repute.
Just restored a NIER 280 feuerhand from around the 1920s. It was intact but lost the glass globe years ago. Fortunately, Dietz makes a replacement globe for this model, and it works great. I use 7/8 wick with regular lamp oil.
Lamp oil is good stuff. I use it when I can get it at a good price and it does a marvelous job. And congrats on restoring a 90-100 year old lantern too! Do you have any pics?.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter update: since I last posted I did not mention that the lamp tank had quite a few pinholes and I attempted to repair them with Liquid Flex Seal, inside and out. I thought I fixed the problem, but after a week, it began leaking and got everywhere. I really thought it would work, so do not use it. After cleaning it up to square one I used Permatex Black Adhesive Sealant silicone RTV 81158. So far so good. I do have pics but not sure how to post them.
With the price of batteries becoming so expensive, oil lamps are a great option. Also the Dietz oil lamps are very reliable and well made. We used ours for 2 days, due to a power outage.
I totally agree. I've been subjected to a few long power outages out here as well, and while I have a few other options, I still primarily use my Dietz lanterns during these. And as a bonus, it sure beats cranking my Goal Zero lantern for precisely 48 minutes to get an hour or two of light.
Until the Price of kerosene goes outta sight
@@tomcatt998You CAN burn things like olive oil in these.
Great lanterns. I have 4 of them and i have used them alot. We have lots of power outages in the summer due to storms and also during the winter as well do to ice storms. the plus or minus depending on the time of year you are using them. They give off a fair amount of heat. At least when you have 2 or 3 going at the same time. So in the winter time they will keep a small to medium room somewhat heated. Great video!
Do you know that kerosene from oil was invented by Polish chemist Filip Walter.And the kerosene lamp invented in 1853 -polish farmacist Ignacy Łukasiewicz.I love to look at the light from kerosene lamp(people have alwayse love fire). Greeting from Poland.
In fact, NOT. Kerosene was invented by Abraham Gesner, who Was born and died in Nova Scotia. Filip Walter invented a lot of stuff. But Kerosene wasn't one of those inventions. .en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Pineo_Gesner
I could show you the building he invented it in.
.......something lost in translation perhaps . For oil lamps it's always been about using an oil with right characteristics ,therefore it need not be what we call kerosene . A boiling point of around 570°f and flash point at around 100°f is especially required for pressure lantern and stoves but when we have a wick then it ain't so critical. Vegetable oils , animal oils n fats have been around for the purpose for a long time. Then fractional distillation from tar and oil shale was developed in1840s then crude oil was discovered . Here in Australia we no longer can realistically purchase kerosene , and only 200 barrels produced daily . Interestingly the introduction of LED lighting and solar panels for third world played a big part in drop of oil prices years ago. Today kerosene ain't produced in great quantities any longer .
I just found a Dietz Air Pilot# 8 lantern that some left in the woods. The globe was broken so I just wet on line and ordered a new one. Love this lantern. By far the best one on the market. Nice review. Good job.
Great score, Dennis! The Air Pilot is on my wish list. What shape was the rest of it in? Sometimes old abandoned lanterns can have leaky tanks.
You mentioned the cost of the Dietz at $20 from Lee Valley in Canada. In 2022 it’s now $50 for the same lantern. That’s a huge mark up in just six years. Still a nice lantern, especially if the price point was a bit lower.
Yes, I saw that last week as well. They were $28 until about a year ago, then $35. But $50? That's either a major supply issue or just plain price gouging. I noticed that a lot of Lee Valley inventory has jumped in price considerably in the past 6-12 months, and that's sad.
Current list price $52.95 US .
Introduced 1900 , albeit a different model number , #2 Blizzard .
More expensive AND they're now made in China.
Bought one last year, works like a charm. Give a fair amount of heat also. Thanks for your review
Enjoyed your video.. (I'm an old critter) Soo, my Grandfather lived between 1836 & 1923..I remember
hearing family members telling about the old days. Mother was in charge of cleaning the lamps because
she had small hands. Also they did not trim the wicks like I keep seeing. They used a "cathead" trimmed
wick...A " V" was cut in the top of the wick. Try this and let me know what you think...
Thanks. That isn't the first time I've heard of trimming the wick in a "V" but the first time I've heard it called a "cathead". I'm trying this out, but I have a feeling that it aplies to dead-flame oil lamps instead of hot- and cold-blast lanterns, which use a different type of air supply.
I just thought of the “Cathead” method tanks for confirming it.
I use POR 15 to seal all my lanterns.. Just pour in 1/2 OZ. swirl it around and dump the left over back into the can. Let it dry 24-30 hrs before use.... A pint will do a dozen of lamps
What exactly is POR 15? Sounds very interesting.
Sir, what an absolutely brilliant idea!
I cleaned and sealed the rusting interior of the petrol tank on my 1975 motorcycle with a POR15 kit. When it was finished the tank interior was factory fresh, rust free and sealed. I was thrilled with the product. It saved the tank.
@@johnedwards1685 Wonderful stuff ..One more tip is to store the can up side down... it will seal itself and keep it from drying out.
Yes it works great. I have a 100 or so year old GSW lantern. It leaks. That is the very stuff I'm going to use on it. Cleaner first then the sealer. Doing a gas tank on a welder at the same time.
I have used kerosene lamps as an anchor light on my boat for decades. I use K1 kerosene. If you can't find kerosene, you can burn mineral spirits, and it burns very clean. They swing back and forth with the boat's roll, and are out in 40 MPH winds. I am betting my life on it, as big boats go by. Deitz stays lit. Wicks on Ebay are $6 for 15 feet. Cheapo lanterns soot up, flare up, and blow out. You can depend on a Deitz.
PS I have run Coleman lamps on unleaded gas for over 50 years with no problems. I started with Amoco high test, and now all gas is lead free. You can also burn kerosene in them, if you preheat the generator with a propane torch, but it shortens generator life.
I agree on the Dietz lanterns - they have never let me down. And lately I've been using K1 kerosene as well and it seems to last a long while. And yes, I have one of those 15 foot wicks n order tomorrow. Also, something else to point out - el cheapo lanterns also leak. Nothing wrecks an evening like cleaning kerosene off your wooden deck.
That's a great point about Colemans, too. I drop a capful of Seafoam fuel treatment in the tank to clean out the generator, and I got that tip off a guy who also told me the same thing about using kerosene in Coleman lanterns as well.
I have burned K-1 Kero in my coleman stove with little trouble, although I think I might now be needing to replace the generator prematurely.
You know with white gas and lanterns powerd by 18v drill batteries the light output is weak. Some of these lights will go for 40 hours non stop or a week with night usage.. The dietz 80 is cool but like everything else you have to have fuel for it..
My 2 4ah batteries will go 10 hours each nonstop so break it down into night hours and you have a solid week on em.. If u r car campin u can recharge em.. If not then the Dietz maybe a better option. I am just glad I have both
Just started to restore a Dietz # 2, at this point covered in rust but will be a fun project, thanks for your information on the #80.
Wow! That's a lot of work but when you're done it will be beautiful. What colors are you going with?
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Having a tough time with choosing colors. Base color might have been dark grey. Since there are some "ribs" to the two uprights, wanted to paint them a striking color...but still looking. Thinking about using an electrolysis process to remove most of the rust, a lot of hard to reach areas as you know.
Nice job! I have used them for bushcraft camping and keep traditional oil lamps in my house for when the power goes out. Handy to have.
I have several Dietz brand and fuerhand brand barn lamps I have noticed some people are carrying them backpacking without a case just on the outside of their packs any idea how to travel thru the woods and protect the glass chimney? Tks for your time. Simon
Great video, thanks for posting! You might want to experiment with some different wick trimmings, e.g. straight across with just the corners snipped off. Your flame is very triangular, and looks like it would start smoking at the top before you get all the benefits you could from the sides of the flame. I think the best flame you can get is more like a big square, with no tall points to generate smoke and soot. The best trim will probably depend on your particular lantern model, though. Have you tried many trim styles before settling on this one?
Actually, I was wondering about that and I did some experimenting and then shot a video on it. th-cam.com/video/Ksm6Tr1J6to/w-d-xo.html
And straight across is the way to go. But the wick in the video above was rounded.
I found that the shape of the slot in the flame spreader has an effect on the type of haircut I give my wicks. Those that are pinched inward slightly seem to do better with a round cut.
You mileage may vary.
Nice little tip about soaking rubber in vinegar. Was considering buying a Coleman I saw in a resale shop. Didn't know what kind of fuels you could use with them, so thanx for that, too.
Thanks! That is actually a tip I got from a number of 19th Century "recipes" books. Many of those old hints are not suitable today - like using white lead for patching roofs - but the vinegar tip still works.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Another good tip. I have a new interest in old technologies, and just learned the word, "bushcraft". 😄
Sure got a winner with a Dietz, Dean; Only encounter I've had with the Knock-Off is, I converted mine 2 a Bird Feeder.Been 6 years now & she's doing just what I intended she would do ! Didn't know the Deitz were selling 4 that price will have 2 check on the price here. Thanks 4 sharing Friend. ATB Terry God Bless
+T.W. Milburn (skillet210) For the price they're a great lantern. And very low maintenance too - I clean the globes once or twice a season, fill the tanks and trim and replace the wicks when needed, but otherwise they just sit there on the shelf.
The hurricane lantern was designed to stop the wind from blowing out the flame. Always keep the lantern upright or the flame might go out.
And according to Dietz, the burner is especially designed to go out in 20 seconds or less if the lantern is tipped over. I don't know how Dietz did that, but if you're using lamp oil or kerosene, it works.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter when it tips over the flame gets snuffed out inside the burner cover.
I have 2 old Dietz lanterns. A Dietz Comet in almost new condition, made in Syracuse. And a Dietz Dee Lite, made in New York City in pretty nice shape. They work like new.
Wow - those have to be pre-1956 because the factory was shipped to Hong Kong that year. Nicely done!
The power goes out weeks at a time out where I lived during the Ice storm. I have three hurricane lanterns, and 3 kerosene lamps. But I have been working on a joule thief circuit to use old batteries witch is little more than a night light. A Coleman lanterns will heat your room if it is small but runs through the fuel quick. A kerosene lamp with a good wick and deep tank will last many hours and it is simple.
Good video sir. Always loved the look of these but never had one. Need to change that. Pretty reliable compared to the other options. I love simple.
Thanks, and you're correct! My oldest Dietz lantern is now more than 20 years old and other than a bit of squeakiness, it's still in excellent condition. I also like these because they're safer than tiki torches and cast a nice warm glow on the patio or in the back yard.
I have two deitz number 2 lanterns, they put out a good amount of light, one's coller is split tho, so it leaks when shaken a bit otherwise is really good
I (well, I will when it arrives) use a Hurricane Lantern regularly, I live out on a small island in mälaren, a lake in Sweden that is connected to Stockholm, for school, and the walk to the bus stop doesn't have any streetlights as the island is essentially out in the forest. Since we are entering the darker and colder parts of the year, I need to make my way in the dark (i don't have a car), last year I spent a small fortune on batteries for my flashlight due to me using it a lot, as well as the winter cold diminishing the performance of them, I think I spent the equivalent of around $30 a week just on batteries. So this year I'm gonna use a more economical option, with an oil lamp! That as well as the fact I think they are very cool!
I've got a small Dietz '76 "The Original", a Japanese Soling "Sun Brand" no. 5000, as well as what I believe are two General Steel Wares no. 2s and a no. 3, all three being old Canadian-made Beacons. The no. 2 Beacons are very similar to your Dietz. I prefer the strong, bright light provided by Coleman pressure lanterns, but hurricane lamps are nice every now and then. Strangely enough, my smallest hurricane lantern, the Dietz '76, is probably also the brightest.
Nice - I'd love a couple of those other brands. And I think the reason the Dietz is the brightest is because it's a cold-blast style of lantern and Dietz perfected those. Other dead-flame or hot-blast types don't seem to throw as much light. I should have a video up soon explaining some of that stuff.
#76 runs around 7-9 candle light #80 is the brightest around 11-13 candle light.
You have more then I. Love Dietz. Also it takes the frost off in a 4 season tent. The one you showed is the best 1,400 btu. 4 of then is equal to 1,500 watt heater.
And hopefully I'll get a few more this year. They're nice to have around and fairly cheap to operate.
Excellent - just bought a Deitz 80 and this was a great help.
Enjoy - that's a great lantern!
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thanks - I note that the modern ones are made in Hong Kong I think, and the metal and finish is not the best - all very thin too but it does the job and is very lightweight.
@@AnthonyFrancisJones Actually, Dietz moved the entire factory to Hong Kong back in 1956. And I've been buying them for 20 years, with the last one a few years ago and I haven't noticed a difference. Could be yours had a quality control issue? In any case, I'll see what my next lantern looks like, because you may be right about that.
Great video! I ma sorry to say you that Dietz in Cina is closed down and the production is stopped forever. Very bad news
Do you have a link to that story?
No, i m sorry, I noticed from several forum and supplier in Europe. Infact now the prices are higher than before and many pieces are impossible to find. If you try to write an email to their site you will see that they have a full email box and it is months that I write. I loved that lantern and now is dead 😞
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Ah. Good day, ah. Great presentation on the Dietz. Coleman does make a great kerosene lamp. Yes, white gas/ unleaded gas has potential issues in operation. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Dietz manufactures in Asia now. The have for a number of years. Still nice lantern... the 80 is tall and burns for around 26 hours. They're not very expensive... about 50 bucks.
Thanks, sir! Awesome review. Thanks for sharing it.
You're welcome! I've found a supplier for their other lanterns and the shipping isn't horrendous, so expect an update video or two in a few months.
Great video. Thank you for posting.
Hi!,
I use paraffin oil, no scent, burns clean, no fumes, no mess, but I would like to be able to use vegetable oil, cheaper, much more common. I hear you have to adapt the burner to use veggie oil, can't find any video on adapting my collection of Dietz Lanterns to veggie oil. I have 12 different Dietz lanterns of different sizes, some antique, some modern ( up to the size 80 lantern - two of them). We live in rural Alabama near the Tallapoosa River, and hurricanes and tornados kill the power very often - so those lanterns come in useful, and I mean very useful. I keep 7gallons of paraffin oil, but that type of oil is becoming costly and rare to find. We hate using K-1 kerosene because of the fumes, and nobody keeps the stuff at gas stations anymore. Wal-Mart ought to be ashamed at the price they charge for 1.5 liter cans of the stuff ($8 USD each). So vegetable oil is the reason I am here looking for the alternate way to buy, convert, or change the burners to use the stuff. Anybody have any ideas?
I use odourless kerosene for heat but it also works in lanterns !
Good video and I appreciate the initial formation.
Just ordered my first Dietz Blizzard.... 😍 cannot wait until it comes in ... nice video.
Nice purchase - and you're going to love your Blizzard! I was saving this for an upcoming video, but if you ever need parts for the Blizzard (especially wicks), I now have an Amazon Influencer store at www.amazon.com/shop/albertabushcrafter . I got a bit frustrated searching for gear so when Amazon asked me, I signed up. And there's an entire category on the store for Dietz lanterns as well because they're so great.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter oh man that's great. I'll check it out. Honestly the place I've ordered all my Dietz stuff from is a so called omish store. They charge 4-5 times as much as anyone else. 😃 You know who I'm talking about.
I have my old white gas colemans and have fuel for em but with having a generator etc long term would be an issue.. My dietz 80 throws weak light but as simple as it is it will work regardless.
I bought thr dietz because i was turning into a Coleman nut but i got the blue Dietz 80 for $25ish and walmart has a quart of lamp oil for like $2
Congratulations - that's actually a really good deal, especially on the lamp oil.
Thanks for the info, and good video.
You're welcome!
Just got my Dietz #80 in today and it's very cool. It wouldnt be my 1st choice camping. I have 3 coleman 220s and 1 200A along with LEDs and a work light that connects to my drill. I used my 220 and my work light on low with a 1.5ah battery for an overnight and that was plenty.
I think the Dietz would be a nice ambient backup but if I were tight on space in my car for camping the coleman is going over the Dietz.
I'd agree. I keep the Dietz lanterns at home, and many folks use them in cabins and such. The Coleman is what I bring for serious light - because they don't dim down too much. For regular lighting and power backup I use a GoalZero LightHouse 400, which throws a good amount of light, will function as a backup battery to charge a phone, and has a hand crank for recharging as well.
I haven't had a problem with my cheap wally world lamp. But the 1/2 inch wick doesn't produce much light. I do like my #2 champion though. the 7/8 inch wick is the way to go.
My el-cheapo World Famous lantern that I bought at Wally World has the same wick and you're right - it's too small. But you're luckier than me, as the lantern I have leaked kerosene all over a wooden deck. That's the only time I haven't used a Dietz and I won't buy cheap lanterns again. Especially when the #80 is only about $28 CDN.
Dean, I know this conversation is old but I know it gets read alot so- I AGREE !! If that fuel had leaked, say, on to a CARPET or a THROW RUG on your porch and ignited...it may very well of taken your house down -or WORSE - So its BEST to stay the heck away fron those " cheap mart" lanterns except as a " decoration only"
Useful for warming small greenhouses too
I got a little wizard with kerosene in it. Surprisingly, it doesn't smell like kerosene when it burns. I think it depends on how big of a flame you're burning and if your kerosene is still good.
Considering how long it takes for kerosene to go bad, it's usually the flame being too high.
Thank you for sharing this.
You're welcome - glad I could help out!
Thanks, Alberta! Great vid. Just the info I was looking for ...from someone that uses them. Much thanks. Ordered a couple Dietz myself.
Have fun with them!
Awesome video, Thanks !
Tonight was the first time i had to use a hurricane lantern for my only light source for an extended time, no phone screen or pc. Found out an interesting thing. That warm yellow light you percieve when you first light it will turn more white after a while in your perception. Turns out your brain decided what is white. Thought id share as its just a little oddity that i noticed and had never thought about.
Never thought of that, but you're right!
Actually, the flame actually does burn whiter as it warms up. You might not see it in footage due to Automatic White Balance, but in a 'cold blast' lantern, the wick is lit as a dead flame, where the fuel has an inefficient burn & half the fuel goes up in vapor. The globe is the. Lowered & all the pipework creates an active draft, increasing airflow & efficiency; the fuel is more completely consumed by the freshly oxygenated flame, creating a higher temperature, causing the carbonization & sulphur on the wick & immediate flame to glow a brilliant white. Think turbocharger.
Remember, this lantern isn't special for being wind resistant. It's special for being with resistant AND as bright as a tabletop lantern. It's also why they stank up the place compared to other lamps.
I actually like the Stansport brand for a more affordable alternative. Since you can by them at Walmart you can exchange them if they leak. What you do is fill them with water to leak test them. You can also get a Dietz 12” model that has the same size tank with as the “cheap” ones. For someone that is interested in having one for bushcraft, or even camping trips there’s an 8” model that is made by Dietz and Stansport. It holds about 6 oz of fuel, and gets up to about 10 to 15 hours of burn time. I have the Stansport version that works great in a tent, or even a bathroom during power failures. Being smaller it’s obviously not as bright. I’m currently looking into getting a couple Dietz Jupiter models. They hold 80 oz of fuel, and uses the same size Wick as the Blizzard. Dietz says it will burn for 75 hours on a single fill. Also it was by accidental design that they will snuff themselves out if tipped over. When they tip over the flame naturally points up and gets trapped inside the burner cover. This is actually true with any hurricane lantern.
The next ones on my wish list are the Millennium Cooker (a modified Jupiter), an Air Pilot or Little Wizard, and a Monarch hot-blast lantern.
But I've used the Stansports too and a lot of them leak. It's good that they can be replaced under warranty or fixed with fuel tank liner. But if they're on your deck and they leak overnight, you are never getting that smell out of the wood no matter how you try. Trust me on that. That's why I stopped buying them.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter the Millennium Cooker is on my short list as well. I grew up in South Florida, and am all to familiar with going without power for weeks and even months. I’ve even showed teens how to make a olive oil lamp from an old tuna can, some strips of denim, and a piece of wire to use as a pick to adjust the wick. Supposedly you can use some strips of cotton or linen as a wick in a hurricane lantern, and it lets you use olive oil, but I haven’t tried it.
I have a pre 1988 No 80. I just redid the wick and filled her up. I want to buy one for a Xmas present but I can't find them.
Check the Amazon storefront below in the Description. I'm sure I included a few Blizzard #80s in there.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thank you.
Hi Dean, my name is Peter. I am looking for a clear Jupiter 2 globe for my Jupiter oil lantern that was built in Poland. My GLOBE measurements ( the top of the globe is 2 3/8", the bottom is 2 5/8". The length of the globe from top to bottom is 5 3/4"". My chimney is about 4" long. The diameter of where the globe sits is 3" bottom and 2.5" on top where it meets the chimney. Do you have any idea where I could get a Clear Jupiter 2 Globe. Do you sell any? Would greatly appreciate any help or ideas you could offer me. Thanks. Made in POLAND.
I think I know just the place. W T Kirkman sells a lot of replacement globes and hardware. They're at: lanternnet.com/ . I've had good success with them.
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Could you make a wick from carbon felt and use vegetable oil? Carbon felt doesn't burn but it does wick any fuel very well.
It's possible but I would be concerned about the speed it wicks fuel. Dietz specifically states that vegetable oil doesn't work at all in these lanterns and I've confirmed that, but with a carbon fiber wick, who knows? It might work but I'm a bit doubtful.
One tip, though, and it might help: use the most refined stuff you can find. In other words, use the stuff that is the least healthy for you. Refined oils contain fewer solids which will clog any wick, no matter what it's made of. That's why cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil never works - too many solids.
Hi, just found your channel. Good shit. Picked up a Dietz Little Wizard no. 30. Thick heavy duty original globe, works well, but cannot find any information on it. Am in New Zealand, gets dark here too....
First, conrgats on finding a Little Wizard! They're great little lanterns. As for information, my go-to source is W.H. Kirkman in the US - he's got a ton of good info and great prices on replacement parts, though the shipping can be high. The site is at: www.lanternnet.com/ .
How does the chimney help pull in cool air
See those two tubes on the sides that go from the top right down to the base? Those pull warmed air from the shroud around the chimney down to the burner. And it’s called a cold blast lantern because the exhaust gases don’t feed directly back to the burner. That ring at the top of the glass globe is a heat exchanger and it heats fresh air slightly lower down from the stale exhaust air.
Do you have a favorite/reliable source for decent-quality 7/8" wicks, as used in the Dietz No. 80? I see Lee Valley still stock them, and right now they have free shipping even for modest orders. Everyone favorite red triangle store have 3.78 L jugs of the Citronella lamp oil - not at the "end of season" price, but the full gallon is only a few dollars more than 1L. Way back when, my dad was a wholesale supplier for outfitters, and he used to have these, as well as Primus and Optimus kerosene-burning lamps and stoves (Also Tilley wire-mesh mantle heaters from the UK). Unfortunately, I did not stock up on these items before he retired, but I did manage to hang on to a few of the "samples" - family pricing but not free, LOL. I grew up amidst all of the gear used by outfitters, guides, prospectors and so on - wall tents that were canvas and heavy-duty, and pretty much anything a camp might need. All gear that's a far cry from the stuff sold for "recreational use" today. But I digress. I've called around a bit, but have not found a good local source for the 7/8" wick in central Alberta. So, I thought you might know of one. W.W. Arcade are long gone - what a pity.
Yes I do, and it's Amazon. I even have an Amazon store with a section for Dietz and other lanterns and ou can buy them there.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thank you kindly for that information. I will hop over to Amazon and check that out right now. After reading all the comments about K1 Kerosene, I thought it worth looking around, and there are sources not too far away. Again, the price for 1 gallon is much better than 1L. Likewise, the savings are proportionally better for containers larger than a gallon. Don't want to go overboard, but it's worth having some fuel on hand for emergencies. Many thanks!
@@jimbaritone6429 There are a couple of stores up here that periodically sell the 3-gallon containers at less than $25 on sale. Sometimes around $20 or so - that store is Princess Auto. but you have to be quick as the people with ice fishing huts snap it up.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Many thanks! As it happens, I am at this very moment on the PA web site - I'll see what their current price is. I've lucked out with sale items from PA before; as you say it's often a matter of getting in quickly. A new Dietz #80 from Lee Valley would be a nice addition also. The green/gold ones are nice to look at, and when you handle one it's clear that they're not like the tinplate leaky cheapies. I'll be looking through your Amazon store as well. Thank you for the head's up. PA is my "go to" for many things, & this will be one more. Thank you for the head's up!
It sounds like your theme music was played on an Ovation guitar. They have a very unique sound.
I believe that's what Andy used, in fact. And you're right - they've got a very unique tone, don't they?
you know that coleman fuel, naptha is the same as unleaded gas, but without the additive package right? they got almost the same flash point and vapour pressure.
Yes. But unleaded gas varies from season to season depending on those additives, and those additives will often gunk up your stove. I have a video coming out on how to fix that.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter of course, but it isnt anymore dangerous than using coleman camp fuel.
@@Francois_Dupont It isn't if you're using a lantern or stove designed for white gas - you just need to clean the generator more often. And #1 ULSD diesel is essentially 1-K kerosene, so I'll be testing it this year.
But just try to use naphtha or unleaded fuel in a kerosene lantern - if you're lucky, you won't burn your house, cabin or campsite down. The chimney effect of a cold-blast lantern like a Dietz can and does turn it into a very effective blowtorch. And if you buy an el-cheapo, the tank may leak as well.
And that's no exaggeration. On a trip a few years ago, I saw an idiot two sites down from me do exactly that. He wanted to "go retro" with his piece-of-crap, $5 discount store lantern, and filled it from the gas can he used for his car. And he lit it, even though the others with him warned him not to. The guy burned up a brand-new $25,000 custom Tab trailer because he was too arrogant or stupid to read a set of directions.
The Kirkman Champion is pretty good quality but they cost a bit more than the Deitz
They are all cheap at the flea markets. I just got a glass lamp with a big bottle of citronella and a bottle of lamp oil, all for $3.
I picked up three of those for $10, plus twwo bottles of lamp oil. But after using them for 4 months, I'd say the Dietz is a way better product.
If I happen across one, I'll consider picking one up. But my eye is on a few more Dietz lanterns from Kirkman. Great company, and I subscribe to them on TH-cam too.
Nice video. I am trying to find out if there is such a Deitz model as a Deitz 555?
I've never heard of that model. But lanternnet.com/ has a lot of info on older models so it may be there.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter .Thanks, I have a small restoration and up cycling business on Etsy and I had an enquiry from France regarding a 555 blizzard lantern. This was stamped on the bowl and it looked similar to a Deitz. Thanks again.😀
Whats a good fuel for indoor use ?
Aaaand look at that.... 12 hours after I release this video, my resident troll has to come out from under his poop-stained rock and give me a Dislike. This is why you don't see me collaborate much with the survival and prepper community on TH-cam or elsewhere. But it's nice to see that someone out there cares enough to hate me in such a cowardly manner. :D
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A TH-cam video isn't a TH-cam video without dislikes. I don't understand why people just dislike videos though. Like what's the point? I don't see any good rational explanation for it.
OK, now there's your like #172 from me. I have over 100 kerosene lanterns. I enjoy getting them working after they have been sitting unused for decades. I have a roof deck and often bring out a few on nice evenings. Its amazing that they can sit unused for a few years and they light right up without troubles.
@Headwhacker Thanks for the vote of confidence! (And I love your choice of TH-cam handle as well). Dietz and Feuerhand lanterns are both excellent quality, but I prefer Dietz simply because they're a bit more available and a bit less expensive. Good luck with the shopping!
@@kimmer6 Over 100 lanterns? Now that's got to be something to see at night. Nicely done!
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Most of them are stored in deck boxes outside but there are 17 of the rarer ones hanging in my room right now. They all work. When the weather gets good I will start using the roof deck with lanterns some more. Stay safe up there!
Thanks..love your video..i have a dietz hurricane #80 blizzard..was wondering the best oil to use..have kerosene in it now..will try the tiki or citronella..my globe is sooty, now I know why..thank you
Perfect timing! I'm working on a couple of videos on Dietz lanterns and this is one of the Q&A topics. Citronella is a nice substitute but don't use it indoors as apparently it is a bit toxic.
Stored around 65 degrees, lamp oil lasts forever. The cheap lanterns are worth having you just have to be careful with them. But you're right the Dietz are better.
Good info, thanks!
I like a Dietz too in certain applications, however I don't believe that the Dietz No.80 produces 1/3 of the light of a Coleman pressure lantern - Colemans vary greatly depending on the model and mantle used, but the lowest classic - a 200 with a 21 mantel produces about 200 candle power. According to "Victory Wicks" which sells Dietz lanterns, the output of the No. 80 is 12 candle power. My Coleman 236 (made in 1955) produces 500 candle power. Nevertheless, in certain applications, you gotta love the Dietz. If I am wrong about the cp of a Dietz No. 80 please advise! Thanks! Liked the video.
Just one last thing... in the cold the Coleman also produces an astonishing amount of heat. That can be awfully welcome!
That's why I also have a Coleman lantern. I use it as a backup and it's a great lantern. I even have a friend that converted his to kerosene (and diesel), and with a bit of extra maintenance you can run the white gas Coleman stoves and lanterns on unleaded gas, though you clean them a lot more.
Yes, trying to run Coleman lanterns on unleaded gas can be done, but it clogs the generators very quickly, and they can be very difficult to clean. With white gas a generator should last at least 1000 hours of burn time.
Add a capful of Seafoam fuel additive per tank (that's the white and red can). Even though it doesn't work well on modern vehicles it works better than denatured alcohol. I even use the stuff with white gas to keep the generator clean.
Coleman makes kerosene fueled mantle pressure lanterns as well. You can identify one because it will have a brass cup under the mantle for preheat fuel. You need to heat up the generator and tubing before lighting it. I use a teaspoon of 90% rubbing alcohol to preheat. I think the light is just as white as a white gas fueled Coleman.
Have you ever found that you need to loosen the fill cap when burning a dietz lantern? Mine was spitting and acting like it had water in the wick however i loosened up the cap so it could breath and it started burning smooth. its as if the burner was a little to air tight.
Actually no, I haven't had to do that but I think I may know what the issue might be. Those two tubes on either side of the globe also carry air to the burner so if they're blocked it could be the issue.
Hey guys I have a question that no one is answering on any videos about these. What happens to the fuel in the reservoir of the lantern when i shut it off? Does it evaporate? If so how long does that take? Is there a way to preserve it like putting some kind of cap over the wick spout to prevent the oil from evaporating? Any information would be appreciated. Ty for the video it was good otherwise.
Kerosene, lamp oil and similar fuels are not very volatile, so they don't evaporate quickly at all. I've used a full lantern two years after I filled it and it didn't seem to have lost more than a tablespoon or two. The only thing you might want to do is empty the fuel into an approved container if you know you're not using it for a while, but that's something you should do anyway for fire safety.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter awsome. I've seen people in movies and stuff walk into an old cabin and light one of those lanterns... so popular depiction is that it lasts for a long time. But you never know with tv. Thank you for your response.
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Nice explanation. I might buy 1.
Do u recommend leaving it on out side, by a side walk and leave for a few hours so it will be on when you arrive back home?
Not really, since this is a live flame we're talking about you shouldn't leave it unattended. And in my neighborhood, I hang them up when I'm using them, but put them away after. That's because there are too many idiots in my area who'd love to help themselves to a free "antique" lantern. (And no, "idiots" wasn't my first choice of words there - it was my eleventh.)
@@AlbertaBushcrafter badass I totally agree, thanks man
@@AlbertaBushcrafter there's idiots everywhere!! Lol
I live in an apartment and they turn off the water for repairs about once a month. They don't give us intelligent notice so more than once I've been on the toilet in the morning and gotten a text saying "we've just turned the water off." I can at least flush but i can't even wash my hands. If i want to use emergency water I have to touch it with dirty hands which isn't ideal. Need to keep a gallon in the bathroom I guess. Anyway not having water unpredictably is no fun.
I bought a couple 3 and 5 gallon water jugs and I keep them topped up for just such a water outage. And they come in very handy if the power goes out, meaning my well pump is out too.
What other fuels can I burn in a kerosene lamp?
Lamp oil and tiki torch fuel work well. Someone suggested BBQ lighter fluid, but that can be even more expensive than kerosene. Diesel can be used - in fact, I've seen articles that say that #1 ULSD (ultra-low sulfur diesel) is almost identical to kerosene, but I find it a bit smellier. And some people say they've had good results with plain old vegetable oil, except extra-virgin olive oil (which clogs the wick), but I haven't experimented with that yet.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter thanks brother
Can the Dietz lamp run on cooking oils?
I've heard that they can, but cooking oils can also clog up the wick, others say. I'd stick with kerosene or lamp fuel, because I've used the lantern wick in home-made oil lamps and sure enough, it clogged up after an hour.
They run excellent on olive oil
I have several, the keep me warm
What can you do if you need/want to use these lamps indoors and opening windows may not be an option? Is there a lamp or type of oil that is better for this?
Kerosene is OK though a bit smelly, but lamp oil is a bit more refined and works quite well. Don't use anything with citronella in it indoors, thought, as it's a bit toxic. All flame lanterns from the old Dietz lanterns to the modern Coleman ones warn against using a lantern indoors without adequate ventilation, though.
Dietz lamps have been made in Hong Kong (China) since 1956.
factory info on the Dietz No.80 Blizzard (you won't get 40 watts from any flat wick lantern you will have to go to an Aladdin or similar with a mantle).
From Dietz info "The lantern gives off a 12-candlepower light, burns continuously for up to 26 hours without refueling and goes out automatically if the lantern tips over."
Yeah, I wouldn't say "automatically". It takes a moment or two. And I'd love to get my hands on an Aladdin, but they're rare as sane people these days.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter I am sure that you can push the flame on a lamp like this for some additional output but it will soot up on you and just make things worse. A crinkled up sheet of tinfoil on one side of the globe is the easiest way to get greater light output is by reflecting light emission form one side of the lamp to the other.
Automatically simply means the lamp will self extinguish on its own, it dose not refer to the time that it takes to do that only that it will put itself out if knocked over. Yes it won't go out in an instant but it will put itself out.
The Diets No.80 Blizzard is a fine looking lantern. Are you above 4000-5000 feet elevation? If so I wonder if you have notice much difference between a squat globe lantern design such as a D-Lite and a tall globe like your Dietz No. 80? I have read that above about 4000 feet the taller globe produces a stronger draft and they are said to burn brighter as a result. I think that if you have two lanterns with the two different style globes but which are the same overall height then the chimney draft ought to be more or less identical as you have the same height and overall draft. A taller lantern would definitely produce a stronger draft and I would expect them to be a little brighter. I think the easiest thing to do to have a bright lantern is to not let if smoke on light up and to let the lamp warm up for 5 minutes or longer if it is really cold before turning up the flame. A soot covered globe eats up/wastes a lot of light output. Wicks with a sharp point tend to soot more when turned up, a 45 degree angle clipped off at the ends on a straight cut wick or a crescent profile wick seem to produce less soot when turned up but everybody has their own favorite way to trim a wick.
@@morayjames92 Yes, that's correct. Lanterns with taller chimneys like the Blizzard do produce a stronger draft. And they're brighter too, but you have to readjust the wick more often as a result as the flame most definitely changes after warming up too. I'm working on a couple of videos on that topic. Also - I've found that when using foil as a reflector for any light source, the flatter it is, the better. Crinkly foil diffuses the light a lot more. And sticking a wine glass or similar globe in front of the flame actually concentrates the light as it acts like a lens. That's an old-timer trick I learned once.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter after looking at a couple of squat globe lanterns and some similar height long glass chimney lanterns like your Dietz No.80 Blizzard it is pretty easy to see where the draft issue lies and it is not the overall height but the fact that the tall glass chimney globes offer a more laminar air flow where as the squat globes in combination with the lantern have discontinuances which cause the draft to be less effectual. The smooth tall glass chimney globes result is a smoother faster and so more powerful draft. The squat globe lanterns generate more turbulence in the draft reducing its speed and power.
will watch out for your new videos.
thx dean, great look at the lantern!
Thank you Sir!
You're very welcome!
You forgot to mention that you can cook on a Dietz lantern! It could save you from starving.
What is the wick size for this lantern?
It takes a 7/8 inch wick.
Im using some Diesel with white-spirit of refined petrol. 2 Us Gallons with 17 Oz white-spirit of refined petrol. We call it here (wasbenzine) in NLD. It seems to burn good in my Dietz air pilot#8 with 7/8 wick. The viscosity is perfect now. 5.2 gallons of kerosene cost me $57 usd in the Netherlands. 1 gallon of diesel cost 5 usd. Farm light Lamp oil cost 2.5 usd per liter, but its not good for the wick. Fuel is very expensive here in the Netherlands. Some people Mixing Diesel with Alcohol , but alcohol is hygroscopic. I don't want water in my fuel.
Lamp oil and espeecially kerosene are quite expensive in Canada too. No. 1 ULSD diesel is about $4 CDN here and works just as well. I don't mix mine with gasoline, or white spirit of petrol (aka. white gas, naptha, or Coleman fuel) , and not with ethanol either as it is definitely hygroscopic (aka. hydrophilic). 91% rubbing alcohol or better, and a capful of Diesel Kleen does the trick as isopropanol doesn't attract water vapor as much. I have a video in the works describing a few kerosene altrnatives, as there are a few other fuels that work well,.
Is it safe to burn citronella indoors or a tent?
Actually, it's not really safe to burn anything in a tent - even a campstove. Besides the fire hazard and burn hazard, there's also the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Those are coal oil lamps, they are supposed to use coal oil.
Not according to Dietz. They say kerosene. Feel free to ask them directly.
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Dietz original No. 76 oil lamp. 10 inch looks to be the same size and super light as your red one. It cost only 11.99 in USA from W. Kirkman website. If you overfill any small lamp it will leak. I've not done that yet. . The10 inch, It don't give off much light even on high. You do need a large one if you want to be able to read. I'd like to see you light that 80 lantern.
Well my Dietz 80 aint no flood light compare to my coleman 220s but in complete darkness id rather have the Dietz than nothing.. The light ouput really fails in comparison to a white gas BUT the Dietz is even more basic with essentially nothing to go wrong.. I am glad I have both.. I am sittin here in my backyarrd in the city with my Dietz on the table.. I found hung up high it doesnt do much
Do these do well in the wind?.
Absolutely. I've taken them out in a rainstorm where the rain was almost blowing sideways. The Dietz lanterns worked great, while my Coleman white gas lantern didn't.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thanks! I have some crappy Walmart lanterns and they don't hold up to the wind. Looks like I'm gonna upgrade.
@@Kaputnik11 Definitely upgrade. The el-cheapo lanters have another problem: they can leak. And kerosene or lamp oil are really tough on the nostrils and a total pain to remove from wood or concrete.
Hello,
Where can i find one of those lanterns?
Thanks.
In Canada and the US you can get them at Lee Valley Tools. Another great source is W.T. Kirkman at lanternnet.com .
Thanks. W.T. Kirkman is great, they have so much stuff!!!
I think fuerhand lantern is more robust and well made than the dietz, have ever own the fuerhand lantern?
Not yet, but hopefully soon. I've always wanted one to compare with the Dietz.
Is that actually a Coleman lantern or a "Coleman style lantern?" Two reasons I ask: 1) the ventilator looks a little weird, 2) my Coleman white gas lanterns 200A, 220, and 295 will burn for about 10 hours on a tank (not an hour or 2). They'll all also burn pump gas also, btw. Also love my Dietz #1 Little Wizard for different reasons.
No, it's just old and has been knocked around a bit. 😄
Silly question. I bought 2 tiny cheapo hurricane lanterns from Walmart that I primed with paraffin lamp oil, I then drained the oil out and put them on my shelf after I determined that they worked properly, can I just keep the oil in or did I do the right thing by putting the unused oil back in the bottle?.
I often have candles lit but they are proprietary and I'd rather just burn one of my mini hurricane lanterns instead. I'm just trying to find a good balance.
I guess what im asking is how do you put away or store an unused lantern after it's been previously used?
@@thecreeper6799 Usually if I'm storing a lantern for a while, I put the fuel in a separate bottle. The fuel doesn't oxidize much, but should the lantern ever spring a leak, you'll get lantern fuel everywhere and it stinks. I had an el-cheapo lantern I bought once that was fine for three years, and then somehow sprung a leak, so ever since then, I take the extra step of storing the fuel separately.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter awesome! Thank you! Perfect!
Where do I get a hat like yours?
First, check out the Henschel or in this case, Outback Trading Company website for a particular style. Second, search for a better price and buy it there. Mine is an Outback Trading Company original oilskin hat, and I got it for 45% less at a local outdoors tore that is now gone (Wholesale Sports). But as soon as I figure out the proper way to restore the coating again, I'll post a new video on that too. There's no reason a good hat like this can't last 25 years or more.
Can you use olive oil?
Some say you can but no, it's not recommended. Olive oil is too thick to work efficiently in the wick and it clogs up - and that is especially true of extra-virgin, cold-pressed olive oil becaise it has a lot of tiny solids left in it.
I'm trying to get an old deitz no 6 supreme back into service and the burner assembly is rusted tight. It looks very similar to the deitz in your video. I could really use clarification on how the burner assembly comes apart. I don't want to force anything and break my lamp. Is the outside burner assembly housing threaded or is it more of a "quarter turn" type deal? I think I see a metal lip on it that slides underneath a catch to secure it but I'm not sure. This part of your video goes really fast and is partially cut out by the camera. I'm almost certain the burner just pulls straight up after you remove the outer burner housing (ring) but as I said, I want to be sure before I break something. Appreciate your channel and time making this and other videos.
On all Dietz lanterns I've seen (and that's a lot), the outer burner cover is a quarter turn deal held in by tabs, and the inner burner and wick just lifts out after you remove the outer cover. And in the US, the best source for tons of burners and other parts is W.T. Kirkman at lanterns.us/ - great supplier. And thanks for the compliment!
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Thanks buddy! It was a hair raising task but I got it apart without breaking anything...it was just as you described.
@@muddymudskipr Glad you got it apart with no problems. I hope you manage to clean it up and get it running, as that's a classic lantern.
Have a dietz hanging in the living room..rite handy !!
Bet it looks great too!
Pick up a Coleman 639C they run on Kerosene or diesel and are BRIGHT !!
And also VERY expensive. A single-fuel Coleman stove goes for $169.99 CAD or more. Dual-fuel stoves are even higher if you can find them. So the lanterns are also super-high-price right now, until the supply chain issues get resolved.
But I doubt they'll even drop after that. Every store out there seems to be using "the outdoors" as a license to gouge everyone.
Your voice reminds me of tim the toolmans neighbour
Thanks! That's quite a compliment - I always liked Wilson on that show even though you only saw his eyes and hat.
Yes, he does sound like Wilson!
Would it be alright to use a smaller than specified wick to reduce brightness and extend fuel duration, say, 5/8" instead of 7/8"?
Reason being, a couple of these lanterns are going to be used mostly for atmospheric effect, not a powerful light source, and the longer the burn time, the better.
You're probably going to laugh, but my answer is "yes" - but only because I've done it by mistake. I once bought the wrong size of wick for my Dietz lanterns, and the smaller wick worked fine.
However, it does depend on the thickness of the wick, because if it's thinner than the one you normally use it may not grab properly in the burner and the adjuster knob may not move it up and down as smoothly (or at all). That's happened to me too.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter Well, hey, mistakes are how we learn, right? I'm happy to borrow the lessons from yours. :) And I wouldn't have thought about the thickness varying between sizes. Thanks for your thoughts!
I caution against it. You would be leaving holes beside the wick which could result in more fuel reaching the flame if tipped over. Can be dangerous. Use the correct size wick always. These can be turned down very low and still burn well.
I have a red kerosene lantern I want to use are there ways it make it brighter?
You can try trimming the wick straight across. But other than that, to increase brightness you need to turn the wick up a bit, but not so high that it smokes excessively.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter ok thanks
can you put citronela oil on a coleman kerosene?
Funny you asked that, because I'm doing exactly that right now. Citronella lamp or torch oil works fine in kerosene lanterns as they have very similar compositions. So does low-sulfur diesel, in fact, but I only use it in my big torch heater as it'll eat anything.
Hi ... Just watched your video on the Old School: The Dietz No. 80 Hurricane Lantern ... I think in your video you said they were approx $20 where you are...... wish I could get them here for that price... over here in Australia they fetch Aust$110+ > ... you don't want to send a couple over this way... lol.. regards Keith
Wow - we have the same thing happening in Canada with some products. I see some items up here that are three to ten times the price of what they are in the US, and that's pure highway robbery. But you may have better luck with lanternnet.com (W.H. Kirkman) as they apparently ship internationally.
I got my Dietz #80 for $14.99 US and with shipping I was at $21 dollars US. Are they that expensive for you on Amazon? Lehmans was the amazon affiliate I bought from. Wonder of they'd ship to Australia..
@@Mixwell1983 Amazon Canada is VERY hit-and-miss. Usually the shipping is cheaper (or free), but I checked Dietz lanterns and they run from $35 to $101, for the same lantern! That's because there are a lot of online gougers and thieves out there who think that Canada is some third-world socialist backwater full of drooling idiots who will pay anything for what they want.
I check many other sources online first before hitting Amazon. And there are retail stores (traditional and online) up here which sell Dietz lanterns for $17 to $35 depending on the model, so they're usually my first choice. The lanterns in the video cost me $18 apiece at Lee Valley Tools and I picked them up on my way home from work.
@@AlbertaBushcrafter ... Hi again.. well we just went onto Amazon and they show up to us for between US$14.95 to US$29.95 and had US$25.00 shipping.. so we added to the cart and them it was they couldn't ship 3rd party items... and to try Amazon.com.au which we did.. it shows up as Dietz #80 Blizzard Oil Burning Lantern (Bronze) by Dietz Price: $155.58 free post ... talk about getting ripped off.... I thought it would be Great having Amazon here in Australia.. but the prices are over the top. Keith
@@Mixwell1983 ... Hi no they want us to purchase at the Australia Amazon.com.au ... their price is $155.58 ... total rip off
how do you store a lantern like this to get the maximum life out of it ? Do you just take the remaining fuel out?
Actually, no . I leave it in the lantern. Kerosene and lamp oil is not very volatile so it doesn't evaporate quickly. One of those lanterns was left on the shelf for 18 months and still had almost all of the fuel left. I think only about 5% evaporated, if that.
I'm watching this in a power outage
Nice! These lanterns work very well in power outages - I have another video in this series where that actually happened.
Alberta Bushcrafter I was going to buy two of these but then I did some digging around in the attic and I found two working ww2 era hurricane lanterns. So I guess I'll just use them.