The INCREDIBLE Granite-Cut Vettuvan Koil, India: Kailasa Temple Prototype? | Ancient Architects
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- Many of you will have heard of the incredible and somewhat unbelievable human accomplishment known as Kailasa Temple, the largest and most magnificent rock-cut Hindu temple at the Ellora Caves, Maharashtra, India.
I made a video about this site 3 years ago and I’ve only just realised it’s had 1.4 million views in that time, making it one of the most-watched videos on this channel: • The Mystery of the Kai... I’ll be looking to do an updated and more in-depth video on this site in the coming weeks.
But before we go back to that, I want to put another one on your radar, known as Vettuvan Koil. It is located in Kalugumalai, a Panchayat town in the Thoothukudi District of the South Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
It was made in the 8th century and is attributed to the early Pandya Dynasty. It is dedicated to the Hindu God Shiva. Incredibly, just like the Kailasa Temple, it is cut straight out of the hillside. It is one complete piece, still connected to the bedrock, an immaculate work of art that surprisingly was left unfinished.
Praveen Mohan did make a video on the site in 2018 and I came across it whilst researching this week. You can watch it here: • Vettuvan Koil - Model ...
Praveen has speculated, and a number of websites have too, that Vettuvan Koil could actually be a prototype, a scale model of the Kailasa Temple due to a number of similarities between the two structures. Could this actually be true? Is there a connection between the two structures? What do we actually know about the monolithic rock-cut Vettuvan Koil? Watch the video to learn more.
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Matt I have a theory I've been brainstorming a couple years about now and I would love to hear your opinion on it! please let me now if you would like to hear it I've send you an email.
I have seen an email from you - just not read it yet! Bear with me!
@@AncientArchitects Ok thank you man take your time!
I have a stack of unanswered messages on all social networks and emails. I need to spend a few days on it all. Apologies
Glad you found Praveen Mohans channel, he has some really interesting stuff and unorthodox view on the matter.
I don't know why kailasha temple isn't in the 7 wonders of the ancient world. It's inscriptions date back to 6 or 7th century. But the temple's origin date is still unknown
If they added even a tenth of what India has for awesome, that list would be 7 World Wonders + 1000 Wonders of India
The 7 Wonders of the world where first identified and set by Ancient Greeks during the time of their empires height.. These Greeks could only select from the sites that they knew about.. So great sites in India Cambodia and in Central america where not included.. Only sites around the Mediterranean and Persia got onto their list..
Of course in modern times were people have knowledge of all the great sites all over the world if 7 sites where selected then the outcome would be different..
Me, An Englishman: This is amazing!
Indian: Oh, we just did this one for practice. Now over here...
@@ian_b Lol. True
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Much Respect for giving our friend Praveen Mohan props & respect on the work coming out these days.
Praveen is the best person to go to for all ancient architecture in India. He is a genius! Thank you for coming back to this topic. Love it!💜
Numerous videos of thought provoking works. Double imagery, step by step how it was done. Great content to ponder. Sounds like you're an open mind.
@@cliffmiller1021 He does experiments to to show you what it all means. The meaning of #108 video he does is crazy!
Yeah but praveen is also kind of a cooky conspiracy theorist.
Boaz Mysteries is great too
@@EarthC135 I will check it out. Haven't heard of this one before. TY!
my goodness - India seems to be numero uno when it comes to ancient awesomeness
Yes!! Just look at the unique stylisation of the pillars in temples. Second to nowhere in the world. They look almost futuristic.
@@AuhSojmusic Great point- futuristic- They are of the Eternal now.
but its not ancient
@@trader2137 if it's older than me, then it's ancient to me - ha ha
Ancient india (indus valley in particular) was in constant contact and trade with the levant civilizations, they sold them lapis lazuli and elephants as recorded in sumerian tablets. one day im sure we will find a rosetta stone between IVC script and cuneiform, hopefully we will decrypt it and discover the secrets
I had no idea that India was so rich in this kind of architecture, thank you.
It’s the tip of the iceberg!
the intricate detail in Indian stone carving is unmatched
Check out that proveen guy he mentioned on TH-cam. He goes to all of these sites in India it's pretty cool
This is literally only 1 out 1 million of India's historic monuments
There are quite a few carved out of hills dating at least to the time of the older Tamili scripts... and quite a few important ones are built into or on hills or mountains. Entrance for people of a different faith is often restricted though.
Egypt and Peru gets so much attention its about time someone other than Praveen showcases the incredible stone structures in India. Matt it's also worth mentioning that the builders in India incorporated functional acoustic properties in some if their architecture, so people could communicate or send warnings from one side of the temple to another and the sound would travel unimpeded. Additionally, some structures had air conditioning technology where a principal known as the Bernoulli affect would push air over channels filled with water to cool off the inner chambers.
I think I have looked at every photo of both, Kailasa more though, the layers in the carvings are amazing, I don't understand how they not only built it, but got the chisels behind one layer to the next. You really just have to work with your hands to understand what I'm talking about. There could not be a mistake, the way it was subtractive carved. It makes the stuff in Egypt look like child's play, a "Oh you can stack blocks, that's so cute, now hold my beer, and watch a master craftsman work, child".
The more I have looked at the work, the more I'm amazed. We now can't even hope to try and build such works of art.
Please Matt, do more on India's monuments.
Great work. Nice you mentioned Praveen . Been following his channel for a while now.
Yeah. Don’t always agree with him but I respect his work ethic. He’s been to all these amazing places.
@@AncientArchitects No one can agree all the time . Nice to see different opinions on things sometimes especially when it’s speculation in some cases until events can be ruled out or proved. Wonder if we will ever find the truth about everything. Wouldn’t it be awesome.
@@AncientArchitects Yeah he jumps to some... questionable conclusions sometimes but he puts in a lot of effort towards onsite research.
I'm such a big fan of Praveen Mohan, thanks for sharing his works with your subscribers !
Glad to see you linking Praveen Mohan, he deserves it!
I´m totally in awe. I´ve heard about and seen pictures and so on since my childhood and thought; yes it´s nice.....but never thought much about it before now.
It´s so fantastic and totally out of my imaginationally believe that someone could build this out of the bed rock. Thanks for making the video and make me aware of this gem of the blury past. I am totally blown away.
I've been following Praveen Mohan for years now and always found his research fascinating...thank you for bring him some light to his channel...hi from Scotland
Love the fact that you are starting to include (more) from India, Cambodia etc...They have some of the most incredible megalithic and ancient structures in the world.
The so called cambodian temple was also built by descendants of a king of Southern India. It's the ultimate Vishnu temple but clearly the peanut Weiner owners felt threatened & converted it into so called bUdDhiSm temple 🤡
This is incredible. They cut out g r a n i t e!!
Fun Fact: The Konark Sun temple was said to have a levitating idol at the top. It was done using natural magnets.
Great video
I believe that and also think this buildings are more ancient than they told us
@@sucubo28 I'm not sure id I believe it. But It isn't impossible for them to pull off something of the sort.
It's more than impressive, it's close to impossible. How this can be done to this stone, with there tools, to this intricacy, without a single mistake is mind bending.
It’s granite which makes it Incredible. If you go wrong you can’t correct it. No room for error
Lovely rock cut structures. Yes Praveen Mohan an interesting chap.
Ancient Architects & @PraveenMohan are my favourite channels when it comes to the ancient world and history! The effort and work you guys put in to solve the mysteries of the history are jus amazing!
I don’t always agree with praveen’s conclusions but I have a lot of respect for his work, belief and what he’s built. He’s done amazing.
@@AncientArchitects Well, he is a Hindu nationalist and that sometimes goes over to religious beliefs rather than plain facts! But he has also put a new light on many mysteries that he has a new theory of, that's interesting and I respect him for that!
Praveen's channel is as brilliant as yours, I'd love to see a collaboration some time!
So many mysteries in India. Need more investigation.
Very true
So glad you looking into my boy Praveen. Even if I don't agree with ideas he is one of the few always out in the field.
Yeah he is good in many ways, I just dont like it when he says...is that an ancient cell phone?
Yes. I don't agree with him but appreciate his work
Praveen wasn't saying that it was exactly a pre copy but had examples of the basic animals and towers that would be used in kalasa. Praveen has way more knowledge of the area than many of those professional so-called archeology type people. He has great insight into many temples all across the Indian continent
I learn something new everytime brother.
Great work 👏
Thank you
This is just crazy....and India is full of temple crazyness! India is a fabulous country! When the time is right I will sell my house and, If I'm accepted, I will move to the world city AUROVILLE and spend the rest of my life exploring that wonderful country in Bald and Bankrupt channel style! Aahahha! Is nice to dream....
I love looking into ancient India. Amazing.
@@AncientArchitects so out of the box! Everything regarded to India is just amazing. Take a peak at the adventures of Bald and Bankrupt there. He just go everywhere like he's a local and you get to see things and situations that you will never did. But he's passion is the ex-soviet union provinces.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ from India 🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍🙏🙏
Cool to see you give a shout-out to Praveen. I enjoy his channel a lot.
Just imagine what this place looked like when it was painted! Wow India you never cease to amaze me
Matt is rapid fire these days, nice pacing bro. this is such an amazing site for sure.
would love to see the construction methods used today to show how it was done.
Trying to keep up 1 video every 2 days. For the time being!
@@AncientArchitects you're killing it Matt, great content every time.
I’m a big fan of Praveen. His videos are fantastic. India is full of beautiful ancient temples. I’m looking forward to seeing more.
Great Channel can't wait to see what you have in store and in finding out more about the rock cutting culture in India big fan thanks a lot
Have you looked into the archeological sites underwater off the coast of India? They were pretty much discovered when the 2004 tsunami took away the water making them visible
Link for this subject please. Sounds compelling.
What's the name of the place?
I think you're mentioning dwarka?
Just made some food and you uploaded. Perfect timing :)
Always thinking of you!
I've always thought this so underrated! Can they still achieve such work today? I just wonder how they did it and how long it would take? Such craftsmanship...
India is half the size of Australia, larger if you include all past areas controlled by rulers or states in this subcontinent. The history includes inward invasions and outward expansion. The population is not homogeneous and never has been, so there are rivalries that have sometimes flared up in violence. Getting people of rival cultures to admit that they "borrowed" from the other is never easy, even inside close cultures like the Anglo-American-German ones. Whatever the architectural or other borrowings, the results are spectacular, and are a tribute to all of the people of India. Thanks to Matt मैट साहब for bringing this stunning ancient Subcontinental Architecture to enlighten Westerners, who, like myself, was shortchanged, when not left totally ignorant, of the native pre-British achievements of India. Peace ☸☮
Thanks! I’ve been watching your channel since you started and you never disappoint. 🤩🤩
Thanks Matt. Loving your work.
Carved structures always intrigued me. It is much harder to carve than cut and stack mud-brick and stone . With the later you can change your structure easier than carved stone.
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And make a mistake and you can’t fix it!
Amazing how simetrical it is!
@@AncientArchitects that’s what gets me the most about these structures you cannot make a single error.
How was it dated? Looks so much older and more sophisticated than the stated timeframe
Only the wall inscription date back to 8th century. The origin of the temple is still unknown
Excellent initiative!
To be honest and objective I think that Kailasa temple is the most sophisticated building created by humans EVER. We couldn't do this today without computers CAD models and LOTs of heavy machinery and drilling tools
"We couldn't do this today" - holy cow, what an ignorance, of course we could do this today, BUT WHY would we
traditional indian stone masons do all the sculpting by chisels even today...
@@trader2137 "of course we could do this today" yes with accurate planing, 3D models and machinery tools, but not like the ancient people did it! People have often problems to imagine how incredible hard it is to carve something out of a solid rock. And taking the enormous size of the Kailasa temple and the precise and beautiful sculpturing into account it almost seems like an impossible task in terms of accurate planning, logistics, knowledge of of rock-hardness, tools etc. Ah and btw. I am not saying that Aliens flew by and cut it out of the rock with lasers for the case that is your motivation to for your "holy cow"-comment.
@@ludwigvanbeethoven61 they were expert's and had hundreds of years of experience through generations, its impressive, but its doable, even if its granite, chisel and hammer is all you need, just YT traditional hindi stone masons
@@trader2137 I never doubted that the ancient people could do this. They obviously did this! Otherwise it would not exist! I don't know where you pull this information out of my context. Maybe you misunderstood me.
@@trader2137 No, masons have stated many many times that we cant do this.
Even researchers gathered millions to remake such things but all machine companies and sculptors statednit couldnt be done
To me it's a huge blessing that the Vettuvan Koil was left in it's unfinished state, as it's the undeniable evidence that Indian Stone Masons, along with their wealth of knowledge, which combined so many different disciplines, worked in a team of many, that worked in unison. A massive middle finger to the idiots who create the Ancient Aliens Show, which over the last decade or more, have gradually worked their way around the world taking every Human achievement in History and handing it to Extra Terrestrial Beings, and in the past, praveen mohan's video's were amazing, and then he was asked to be a part of Ancient Aliens, from that point on, everything is Aliens, if it's round it's a UFO, the God's, the hundreds of various Deities, ALIENS, if something appears to be created by a skilled craftsman, it's a Skilled ALIEN who landed in a CRAFT..he even states that Shiva Lingams are actually the small caved models of Shiva's Space Rocket which he used to get to Earth, which they made so they can worship it after he decided to take off after his visit (I shit you not)... in my opinion a total disrespect to his country and his ancestors who built and created the worlds most incredible feat of workmanship,
no it's not an evidence of anything, beside that whoever did it stopped midway for whatever reason. the same happened in Egypt, liban, south america. no aliens did it, but maybe not historical Indians either, just like Egyptians didn't make the pyramids with copper chisels.
This channel is awesome!
The sheer intricacies of Kailasa blow my mind. It's a mystery that keeps me up at night. lol. Looking forward to more content/information on it. :)
Thank you for making incredible videos ♥️🙏🇮🇳
I had no idea about this either. The Taj Mahal overshadows all others. I’ll be checking out more of your videos.
The rock-cut temples like this are the most bewildering of all ancient sites. How? How did they carve that much granite? There are even more rock-cut sites in India. India and Cambodia have the greatest architecture.
copper or iron chisels and hammers is all you need
@@trader2137 Lmao no, thats been disproven for decades. In all the tests done the copper just flattened. You should know this lmao
@@michaelschemmel1984 sure LOL, was it pure copper though? egyptians didnt use such, also they hardened it, we have ARCHEOLOGY for this, it doesnt get FLAT and chips away granite very easily...
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I never got the chance to thank you for coming up with your great videos, you definitely are an inspiration. Looking forward to your next videos about Indian rock sites. It would probably be so much complementary and a more scientific speculative approach than Mohan, though no disrespect to him.
Praveen Mohan is great. Been watching him for about 2 years now. Great to see him recognised here. Keep up the great work and research. 👍🏼👍🏼
Wow!! It’s incredible
Wow I never new about this place
Amazing isn’t it!
@@AncientArchitects Yes also the similarities! I would love to be able to visit those places in India once in my life
The last few video shows this channel is bang on form again-bravo sir!
Thank you. Trying to keep the content interesting for the viewers
I enjoy your meticulously-researched videos. Your topics are always interesting. I also enjoy Praveen Mohan’s videos. I respect his curiosity, his drive and his dedication to on-site research. I don’t always agree with his conclusions, but I respect the questions he asks
Top work. Shout out to Praveen, the godfather of Indian historical landmarks on TH-cam.
Stunning.
Good work
Fantastic work nice job matt.. great to see you work in india and like the kalissa temple was NOT chiseled with copper if the stone was granite now was it .. all the best Phil
Not that old I guess. Steel was available. 🤷♂️ But obviously I have no idea how any of this was made. It’s incredible.
@@AncientArchitects depends if you believe the original origin story the kalissa certainly isnt from that era imo.
@@AncientArchitects plus it would still be some feet using steel at that time diamond tipped equipment would still have found that hard
All very good points as usual. I guess art history comes into it too. Comparing the style of the art in the rock to dateable art in other mediums?
@@AncientArchitects absolutley it does.. the temples of tamil nadu offer nubs on the front as if the engineers were happy to show them off the brideshawarer shows base nubs as if a hidden code and or earlier in the nub interpretation so I guess we can apply that to the artistic work also however in some cases the better worked temples do seem earlier which can be strange as a phenomenon to study .. nice talking to you as always matt
Very curious what your next bedrock cut temple video will be on. Exciting!
Thanks. And thanks for the FB messages too :)
What a special chunk of rock, but just how? Not only the architecture but the sculptural art is unimaginable. Thank you.
Just think of the time and effort that goes into just the designing and planning of simple structures made today out of common everyday materials. Now replace that with solid granite and "hand tools" and it's just incomprehensible. The Kailasa temple and the boxes of the Serrapeum at Saqqara are up there as the two places that fascinate me the most. Unimaginable is right.
Nice!! 👍
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wow fascinating carvings .thanks
Thanks for being here.
INDIA HAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST STONE CARVINGS AND STONE STRUCTURES IN THE WORLD HANDS DOWN. IT'S JUST NOT PROMOTED LIKE OTHER PLACES UNFORTUNATELY.......
These monuments are FAR older than academia lets on. The dates they claim are impossible as the technology to carve such precise masterpieces was just not available. It is evident that if they could not do it during a date we are aware of then, it MUST predate a time we can recognize.
Simply AWESOME structures and precision!!
Praveen Mohan has some amazing insights and hypothesis, well with your time.
Granite is the hardest rock.... This is beyond incredible....
Indian architecture is immensely insane! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Those parallel scrape marks in the unfinished surfaces are the same marks that can be found in Giza, Petra, and many other places.
I mean... Just, how? Thanks for the video, great as always.
I know right?
chisels
All knowledge is coming from Lord Krishna via Lord Brahma. The wisdom of Vedic architecture as you are displaying is found in Vastu Sastra and SHilpa Sastra. Thank you for sharing
Good video
Thanks
Thanks
well done.
Praveen Mohan has some really really good videos on ancient Indian civilizations.
Praveen is awesome
Incredible.
Hi, I've been a fellow enthusiast my whole life. And after many decades of study, thought ans research I've come to a very possible answer to how these guys formed and quarried granite. Not only is there proof they had technology to melt granite but it's obvious, to me anyway, that they could soften the stone, period. All the scoop marks are evident of that. So Puma Punku, all the latin sites and India, Egypt....they had a very high end technology that enabled them to create these absolutely unparalelled monuments. In addition , there is no possible way the culture in 3,500 B.C. could do this.
Therefore, most of these achievments have been inherited from a far earlier time on earth than we can even fathom. 10,000 to several million years are not only feasible but likely.
Love the channel, peace evwryone!......;-]
Thank you
Thanks Susan
Just WOW.
I'm enjoying these Indian subject videos a lot, it's nice to get away from the Mediterranean.
Amazening
At 6:35 when he said that it reminded him of a tank I did a fist pump in the air. That was my 1st impression as well. There is no main turret, but possible gun ports all around the thing. Since it's still part of the granite bedrock, it isn't going anywhere so it would be a defensive mechanism. What would be so valuable as to need such a defense? I am also a fan of Praveen Mohan, but I was a bit disappointed when he collaborated with some of the people from "Ancient Aliens".
On namah shivay
Its a petrified space ship "VIMANA" i see the TESLA TOWER in centre of structure!
Lol, petrified means the so called space ship was an organic material, me thinks your delusional.
@@nathanlorance8361 Remember that all materials decay, and if it is a non-metallic meta material, its decay can result in petrification!
@@joeparlaconte fine I'll agree to a point because bones of Neanderthals and even so called early hominids that date well within the 35,000 to 100,000 years ago have neither fossilized or petrified.
Given that the so called UFO of yours would have to be well over 100,000 years old.
@@nathanlorance8361 Bones are made of calcium! and they are not made of polymers or meta-materials that undergo different processes because they are not biological!
Praveen is a genie..... I meant genius 😮
I love that guy
8:09 In line with that: I'd like to know about all of these cultures' masonry outlook. It seems to achieve these monuments (The pyramids included) that nearly everyone would have had to be a skilled stone mason! How would one have even coordinate these "carved-down" designs? If even one "newbie" was on the job, then the whole thing could be ruined by a simple misunderstanding. Perfection on this order requires a lot of time, patience, and high level of skill, yet the stories report that they were able to create them within one lifetime. I suppose that it is possible, but it just doesn't seem very likely that all of these conditions could have been met.
I saw those toolmarks seen all over the world 👍😃
Mindblowing but as I like to challenge what is presented I wonder if this site could have been reused or recarved by indian kings on an earlier ancient temple, the volume of rock excavated on both sites is stunning and the fact that it is fine-carved out of granite is really puzzling.
The really amazing thing is just how far they went to CLEAR away enough material to create a "Box" for the temple to sit in!
Could you imagine being the person that found that? Like, what were they thanking when they saw it? I mean, was it really possible to do something like that when they say it happened? Is it possible to be from an age before?
Its safe to say that the smaller site is carved from a simular granite location, same tools used, same style and same time...which makes it a valid theory it is a testbed for the bigger Kailasa temple..
Oh my... I'm just wondering, what tools could they have used to make those marks we see on the unfinished surfaces? 6:31 gives you a good look at it. I've seen this at many other ancient sites, but how?? Some of them even looks parallel, even when the cuts bend.
Love your videos!
I feel a lot of work is to be done here. Need to go india in the near future and take a closer look
Did you see the marks on granite that looked like saw marks you would see on wood?
@@footydancerm559 so what? abrassive sawing of granite has been known for thousands of years and used alot in egypt
@@trader2137 yes I know looks like knowledge was passed on all over the world for so many cultures to have a similar technology.
The cuts look circular which was my point as most explanations for cutting granite is with a straight blade and an abrasive like sand🤔
@@trader2137 Lmao, not Egyp, engineers and stonemasons have already stated they disagree that they used hand tools
Temple of the SLAYER!!!!
It really took you this long to find out about Praveen?Just a question because I love all of his videos and theh hide his videos also.
Do you think the temples being different sizes could have something to do with population levels in the areas.?
p.s I love your videos ❤️
The stone age continued throughout the other ages and developed to such a high standard. Stone masonry is a worldwide Talent that can be seen in many locations leaving future peoples to marvel at just like us right now.
Nice presentation. I still can’t imagine the skill, workforce numbers, tools used. Not to mention length of time. Lack of mistakes? And has anyone figured out the factory or refinery to make all these tools and machines? Boggles the mind. Sometimes it just doesn’t make an sense. How, who and why? I can think of easier ways to construct some of these monolithic structures!
What tools did they use to cut the stone?
I wish there were a video that could visually show how engineers, stone masons, or other experts might explain step by step the details of how they think these temples built.
The only proof is someone creating a small hole in the same type of stone without modern tools with similar style of carving. If someone can do it at a reasonable pace, it's definitely doable for a team of hundreds if not thousands of workers over the course of decades.
Please explain the technique to start this and planning. I do not feel today we have the skills to make either of these. This is lost tech from a people we really don’t know about. If you can show how I would love to see it.
Would be awesome to find the blueprints to build that
These so called experts that say this is how it was constructed and they used rocks and crude copper chisels to carve these monuments is absolutely laughable and obvious that there is ZERO chance that's how it was done. India has the most advanced stone monuments with amazing details and precision that cannot be duplicated today with our advanced technology. I'd love to see the tools used making such beauty