In my opinion Fate Man is in the same family with Tom Ford's Amber Absolute. But instead of a sweet warm Vanillic Amber, a light Maple Syrupy Immortelle is used to supply its sweetness. Its notes of Cumin, Saffron, Ginger, & Mandarin Orange make it fresh/spicy. With its notes of Incense, Labdanum, & Copahu Balm rooting it deep in the Middle East. For me, Fate Man conjures images of having my fortune told while taking in all of the different Market scents along the Spice Route at night. I dont think the Cumin is the issue with Fate Man. I believe the issue is with the Immortelle, & how its Sweet Maple accord clashes with the Cumin. But had Amber been used instead of Immortelle, Fate Man would smell like your average Middle Eastern themed fragrance. All that said I love Fate Man for what it is. Give it some time, you'll grow to love it just as I did. My bottle was bought in 2015
Hi I dont find them similar at all. To me different leagues. Amber Absolute is similar let`s say to Ambra Aurea or Vintage Ambra Mediterranea (Profumi del Forte). Fate Man is the scent of its own...there are no other similar fragrances other than clones?
@@fragrancemafia1778 thanks for the awesome comment, I do agree that I might be the immortelle that, mixed with the cumin, gives off this steamy super heavy vibe. You are also right that without it, the fragrance would smell more generic. Thanks again, very insightful.
Entertaining and informative video as usual, thank you! Side note: I see you've gotten to the point that you've realized people will look for reasons to be bothered and offended by what you say. Honestly, as far as you go out of your way to articulate your thoughts, apologizing is a waste of time. Those types will just keep finding reasons to be offended and ignore your thoughtfulness.
@@Tranquilize779 true, thanks for the reassurance. It might just be my Swiss neutral genes coming through 😂 Joking aside, it’s such a subjective matter that I realize how opinions on this can easily go the preachy route.
So complex , I wore this yesterday I’m starting to get it , Ramsey has a great review on this one . Highly recommend opus 4 not the same but has the cumin but way toned down . Absolutes stunner
Overture Man is an "absolute masterpiece". In my top 5 of all time. Hope you try Guerlain L'Art & La Matiere Tobacco Honey Eau de Parfum as it's a powerful wow fragrance too.
mine is a magnetic cap version so perhaps it’s after a reformulation that toned it down. To me it’s assertive but not overpowering with the cumin for the first hour and then dries out to a beautiful sweet, musky, amber, resinous wood. it’s very creamy to my nose and the musks in it have a fluffy feel. it is definitely unique though and a piece of art all its own. Luca Turin says fate woman is a perfect scent and i’ve long wanted to smell that composition but have no access to it anywhere.
@@AnotherPerceiver85 I’m not aware of any reformulations. It’s indeed beautiful and assertive but the heaviness is just to fatiguing to me. I’m super curious about Fate Woman
Fate man is the first Amouage I have tried (with Interlude man) at my brother in law house in 2013... I was gifted both bottles (Interlude and Fate) when he bought new ones. After that I was hooked on the niche perfumes, so my money problems start rooting around that time. I loved their scent, but the first Amouage I bought was Journey man. Fate man is my least worn form my entire collection and it not because I dislike it, I don't see it as a kitchen smells, because the cumin, at least here, in Transylvania we rarely use it for tea, and we have a special cumin soup with toasted bread, but nothing like using it every day in our cooking space... It is not very easy to wear at least for work, but I really enjoy smelling/wearing it and even have a new unboxed Fate Man found two years ago for a very nice discount (I like that now being a discontinued one). It is my least used Amouage and the only one I have 2 bottles of, funny life is. L.E. I find it quite unique as a perfume - Karine Vinchon Spehner is one of the best out there - but in the dry down it shares similarities with Laudano Nero by Tiziana Terenzi. I don't have that now to compare but my memory say that Laudano Nero was a sweeter and heavier/denser dried down Fate Man. I wish I had that for confirmation. Love your videos! Daniel
"Book of Fate is opened by the mysterious puppetmaster and the carousel, symbolising the wheel of fortune, is set in motion." It is supposed to explore the uncertainty of the future and the unknown.
I think people have a hard time tying this deep existential theme to the culinary execution. Most likely an east/west cultural difference causing the confusion. Epic man for example, to me, the scent matches the mystical exploratory theme. They work in tandem to tell a whole story.
@@Sliceisnice850 it’s one of the reasons I have difficulty wearing this one. I’m extremely sensitive to humid climate too, there might be something to this…
Fate woman is a chypre-oriental hybrid created by Dorothée Piot; she did such amazing florals for Amouage; its color is completely yellow: the citruses and the daffodils of the opening and the rich spiced vanilla of the base. And yellow is also Fate Man a dry woody scent centered on immortelle: this is it, cumin is there to give depth to the composition. I ignore if yoiu have the box, but you'll notice that the shades of yellow are the predominant colour. I admit that in Fate Man, skin chemistry (people's pores to be frank) plays a very important part if the developing of the scent...for me it reminds me so much of my holidays in Corsica with its breeze of immortelles that it holds a very special place in my collection. Try to get your hands on Fate woman, especially the 2012-13 version. the best review I came across is from kafkaesque: she nailed it and the community misses her writings quite a bit. Enjoy Fate in the summer: it is more rounded and appealing. Cheers
@@SeldomlyOften se hai un p.o. box in Italy, cerco di mandartelo assieme a qualcos'altro di tuo interesse. credo di averti scritto una mail qualche giorno fa? cheers.
@@theworkingkitchen7325 in the various interviews I watched of him, he seems like a simple man that likes to smell good. His favorite house is Xerjoff and he doesn’t like stinky raw materials 😂
I didn't get fate man when i first smelled it too. I felt it's unfinished or it's missing complexity or something. Everything clicked when I realised it's nothing but an amouage take on skin/molecular scents like Escentric Molecules fragrances. It's definitely your skin but better type of fragrance. I'm definitely getting a lot of ambroxan which makes it fresh/cool and sweet. I think thats what makes it wearable for the summer. It's just fresh and sweet ambroxan along with cumin to give it BO vibes. That's why it's long lasting and sticks to your skin. It's about your skin smell, your journey, your own BO in the midst of desert heat. You can't escape your own fate.
@@sliman2817 interesting point of view! This does not smell like a molecular scent at all for me, it’s super dense and inescapable. I don’t smell much in the molecule scents either and I definitely smell this one 😅 Cool idea though, I’ll try to ride it through my next wear.
Try it in the summer, but only just spray like once or twice. I think the scent is not meant to be worn in the winter time in Switzerland. I have other similar sandalwood-heavy fragrances, which I prefer, so I didn’t keep Fate Man, although Amouage is my favourite house too. Still, I do think it is yet another masterpiece of this house and it needs some time to understand. Keep it, you’ll change your mind with the time, and if you ever want to sell it, let me know 😌
Thank you Daniel. Great review. Not my cup of tea this one. I cannot tolerate the cumin in fragrances when it's very strong. Please add the "fragrance" keyword in your about section of your channel so more people will discover you. I am one of the heaviest TH-cam users (Over 10 hrs per day) and only recently I discovered your channel. Take care!
Fate Man is out there for collector`s purposes. You dont wear it a lot and just sometimes sample it privately. You buy Fate Man for that awesome bottle design (easily the best one from entire Amouage line).
@@viliamgajdos5917 lol, I’m all for artistic collector pieces but I’m not sure Amouage was necessarily about that. Despite the weirdness of some of his creations, Christopher Chong was very much utility focused.
Great video as always... I recently sampled bois du portugal and found it extremely interesting and comforting in a way. Would love to see your opinions on it--it may be quite polarizing
@@Charlieboyfragrance the cumin note in Ganymede is a lot drier and bitter. Here it’s much humid and sweeter, it’s makes it much harder to swallow, to me at least
It might be called FATE because it is inescapable. Maybe the fragrance is a reminder that FATE can not be escaped, and that harsh reality can not be avoided. Maybe it has something to do with Soothesayers, or fortune tellers, and historical relevance surrounding their storefronts or wandering nature. That is the best I can come up with. Once you showed me the box, I got the impression of Palm reading, Astrology, and the origins of mysticism. The way you describe it, I am imagining something long lost in history.
One house I struggle with liking. Only have Reflection man from Amouage and even that one I struggle to wear because of the over sweet jasmine note. I definitely have tried most of em but they are all so resinous and dont offer much versatility
@@sidarkoca5740 different strokes for different folks. From the entire house Reflection Man is the one that seems to me very designer like. I don’t love niche for the ease of wear.
@SeldomlyOften Unfortunately, I lost interest in Amouage fragrances due to their versatility and heavy use of ouds and resinous potency. Are the ones you mentioned any good ?
Try beloved man , underrated gem head and shoulders better then reflection man . In fact if I wasn’t a collector I could easily just buy or bought 4x bottles and be done wear it all year , job done .
Thought it’s Portrayal from the thumbnail but got the CUMIN BEAST. Will never get to experience this, was never sold in my country, but looks like a very unique experience.
I like strong challenging fragrances and I dress to suitable occasions with them, but I am truly afraid of pulling the trigger on a bottle of Fate Man. The other fragrance I have which is also very tiresome to wear but still lovely is Nishane Pachouli Kozha.
@@All_True_Especially_The_Lies I tried that Nishane and although it doesn’t smell similar to Fate Man, it has a very distinct heaviness to the scent profile… strong try before you buy for me.
I remember my friend once describing it as "a fat businessman's perineum". I was like, "dude.....c'mon. That's awesome." 🤣 I don't think I'd be able to wear it myself though. Maybe one day.
@ no no green light as the opposite or red light haha. Its a spicy amber fougere family. I prefer it over many many amouages. Rose incense, Opus V, Material, Meander, Search, Imitation man, Lyric Man, Figment man, King Blue, reflection man, beach hut man, purpose… Also to my nose, cumin note is stronger in overture than in fate.
Just an idea. Fate man name paired with Indian culinary may be leaning to Hinduism. The religion itself is fatalistic to its culture. Which is why Buddhism responded to, why wait for Nirvana when you can do it now!
In my opinion Fate Man is in the same family with Tom Ford's Amber Absolute. But instead of a sweet warm Vanillic Amber, a light Maple Syrupy Immortelle is used to supply its sweetness. Its notes of Cumin, Saffron, Ginger, & Mandarin Orange make it fresh/spicy. With its notes of Incense, Labdanum, & Copahu Balm rooting it deep in the Middle East. For me, Fate Man conjures images of having my fortune told while taking in all of the different Market scents along the Spice Route at night.
I dont think the Cumin is the issue with Fate Man. I believe the issue is with the Immortelle, & how its Sweet Maple accord clashes with the Cumin. But had Amber been used instead of Immortelle, Fate Man would smell like your average Middle Eastern themed fragrance.
All that said I love Fate Man for what it is. Give it some time, you'll grow to love it just as I did. My bottle was bought in 2015
Hi I dont find them similar at all. To me different leagues. Amber Absolute is similar let`s say to Ambra Aurea or Vintage Ambra Mediterranea (Profumi del Forte). Fate Man is the scent of its own...there are no other similar fragrances other than clones?
nice comment. i find, myself, a solid family resemblance between TF Tobacco Oud, Tiziana Terenzi Laudano Nero, and Fate Man.
@@fragrancemafia1778 thanks for the awesome comment, I do agree that I might be the immortelle that, mixed with the cumin, gives off this steamy super heavy vibe. You are also right that without it, the fragrance would smell more generic. Thanks again, very insightful.
Entertaining and informative video as usual, thank you!
Side note: I see you've gotten to the point that you've realized people will look for reasons to be bothered and offended by what you say. Honestly, as far as you go out of your way to articulate your thoughts, apologizing is a waste of time. Those types will just keep finding reasons to be offended and ignore your thoughtfulness.
@@Tranquilize779 true, thanks for the reassurance. It might just be my Swiss neutral genes coming through 😂
Joking aside, it’s such a subjective matter that I realize how opinions on this can easily go the preachy route.
So complex , I wore this yesterday
I’m starting to get it , Ramsey has a great review on this one .
Highly recommend opus 4 not the same but has the cumin but way toned down . Absolutes stunner
@@seanp7871 I checked Ramsey’s review, great stuff but I have a really hard time connecting with the scent personally.
Overture Man is an "absolute masterpiece". In my top 5 of all time. Hope you try Guerlain L'Art & La Matiere Tobacco Honey Eau de Parfum as it's a powerful wow fragrance too.
Gotta try those guerlain your talking about
@@phantomplastics6582 still need to get into the high end Guerlain line. It’s because on paper they don’t come across as very exciting…
oh hell yes. one of my favorite. starting my watch now and excited about it
mine is a magnetic cap version so perhaps it’s after a reformulation that toned it down. To me it’s assertive but not overpowering with the cumin for the first hour and then dries out to a beautiful sweet, musky, amber, resinous wood. it’s very creamy to my nose and the musks in it have a fluffy feel.
it is definitely unique though and a piece of art all its own. Luca Turin says fate woman is a perfect scent and i’ve long wanted to smell that composition but have no access to it anywhere.
@@AnotherPerceiver85 I’m not aware of any reformulations. It’s indeed beautiful and assertive but the heaviness is just to fatiguing to me. I’m super curious about Fate Woman
Fate man is the first Amouage I have tried (with Interlude man) at my brother in law house in 2013... I was gifted both bottles (Interlude and Fate) when he bought new ones. After that I was hooked on the niche perfumes, so my money problems start rooting around that time. I loved their scent, but the first Amouage I bought was Journey man. Fate man is my least worn form my entire collection and it not because I dislike it, I don't see it as a kitchen smells, because the cumin, at least here, in Transylvania we rarely use it for tea, and we have a special cumin soup with toasted bread, but nothing like using it every day in our cooking space... It is not very easy to wear at least for work, but I really enjoy smelling/wearing it and even have a new unboxed Fate Man found two years ago for a very nice discount (I like that now being a discontinued one). It is my least used Amouage and the only one I have 2 bottles of, funny life is.
L.E. I find it quite unique as a perfume - Karine Vinchon Spehner is one of the best out there - but in the dry down it shares similarities with Laudano Nero by Tiziana Terenzi. I don't have that now to compare but my memory say that Laudano Nero was a sweeter and heavier/denser dried down Fate Man. I wish I had that for confirmation.
Love your videos!
Daniel
@@danidingo977 thanks for the report! It’s really hard to wear for me too, it’s just a little choking due to sweet humid factor.
@@SeldomlyOften I can see that. Like I said in the L.E. I think Laudano Nero would be even harder for me to wear - warm, sweet and heavy.
Thanks for sharing, Daniel! Have a beautiful week ahead!
@@EduardoHenrique-nd1ro thanks 🙏
"Book of Fate is opened by the mysterious puppetmaster and the carousel, symbolising the wheel of fortune, is set in motion."
It is supposed to explore the uncertainty of the future and the unknown.
I think people have a hard time tying this deep existential theme to the culinary execution. Most likely an east/west cultural difference causing the confusion.
Epic man for example, to me, the scent matches the mystical exploratory theme. They work in tandem to tell a whole story.
@@iyanev thanks, interesting stuff. I also agree with the other comment, the culinary aspect of this is super distracting to the meaning.
@ Agree, I couldn't get behind it either.
Nice work. I’ve never before heard a perfume described as “humid,” and it’s great descriptor.
@@Sliceisnice850 it’s one of the reasons I have difficulty wearing this one. I’m extremely sensitive to humid climate too, there might be something to this…
Fate woman is a chypre-oriental hybrid created by Dorothée Piot; she did such amazing florals for Amouage; its color is completely yellow: the citruses and the daffodils of the opening and the rich spiced vanilla of the base. And yellow is also Fate Man a dry woody scent centered on immortelle: this is it, cumin is there to give depth to the composition. I ignore if yoiu have the box, but you'll notice that the shades of yellow are the predominant colour. I admit that in Fate Man, skin chemistry (people's pores to be frank) plays a very important part if the developing of the scent...for me it reminds me so much of my holidays in Corsica with its breeze of immortelles that it holds a very special place in my collection. Try to get your hands on Fate woman, especially the 2012-13 version. the best review I came across is from kafkaesque: she nailed it and the community misses her writings quite a bit. Enjoy Fate in the summer: it is more rounded and appealing. Cheers
@@alexchog9383 thanks! I’m really curious about Fate Woman now, I’ll check it out if possible 😊
@@SeldomlyOften se hai un p.o. box in Italy, cerco di mandartelo assieme a qualcos'altro di tuo interesse. credo di averti scritto una mail qualche giorno fa? cheers.
@@alexchog9383 eh, purtroppo non ho nessun indirizzo in Italia, apprezzo molto l’offerta 🙂
@@SeldomlyOften non so come funzioni la spedizione di profumi da per la Svizzera. mi informo. take care and keep up the good work.
“Lorenzo Pazzaglia is a big fan of smelling good “made me laugh. 😂 I hope he is. Great review once again
@@theworkingkitchen7325 in the various interviews I watched of him, he seems like a simple man that likes to smell good. His favorite house is Xerjoff and he doesn’t like stinky raw materials 😂
I didn't get fate man when i first smelled it too. I felt it's unfinished or it's missing complexity or something. Everything clicked when I realised it's nothing but an amouage take on skin/molecular scents like Escentric Molecules fragrances. It's definitely your skin but better type of fragrance.
I'm definitely getting a lot of ambroxan which makes it fresh/cool and sweet. I think thats what makes it wearable for the summer.
It's just fresh and sweet ambroxan along with cumin to give it BO vibes. That's why it's long lasting and sticks to your skin.
It's about your skin smell, your journey, your own BO in the midst of desert heat. You can't escape your own fate.
@@sliman2817 interesting point of view! This does not smell like a molecular scent at all for me, it’s super dense and inescapable. I don’t smell much in the molecule scents either and I definitely smell this one 😅
Cool idea though, I’ll try to ride it through my next wear.
Try it in the summer, but only just spray like once or twice. I think the scent is not meant to be worn in the winter time in Switzerland. I have other similar sandalwood-heavy fragrances, which I prefer, so I didn’t keep Fate Man, although Amouage is my favourite house too. Still, I do think it is yet another masterpiece of this house and it needs some time to understand. Keep it, you’ll change your mind with the time, and if you ever want to sell it, let me know 😌
@@pavelvalentinray135 thanks for the report, I’ll keep trying it and maybe it will finally click for me.
Thank you Daniel. Great review. Not my cup of tea this one. I cannot tolerate the cumin in fragrances when it's very strong. Please add the "fragrance" keyword in your about section of your channel so more people will discover you. I am one of the heaviest TH-cam users (Over 10 hrs per day) and only recently I discovered your channel. Take care!
@@AtheneanSoul thanks for reminding me, I’ll definitely revise the channel description.
Fate Man is out there for collector`s purposes. You dont wear it a lot and just sometimes sample it privately. You buy Fate Man for that awesome bottle design (easily the best one from entire Amouage line).
@@viliamgajdos5917 lol, I’m all for artistic collector pieces but I’m not sure Amouage was necessarily about that. Despite the weirdness of some of his creations, Christopher Chong was very much utility focused.
Totally agree with the need to design male to female intention or leaning in fragrances. It helps the end user in purchasing a desired direction.
@Betruetotgeyself yeah, I love how everything is unisex (and should be) but adding direction really helps the user
@@SeldomlyOften which is why I love your view that notes are not helpful. Keep on bud!
Great video as always... I recently sampled bois du portugal and found it extremely interesting and comforting in a way. Would love to see your opinions on it--it may be quite polarizing
@@desmond5511 I have a first impression video on it. I really liked it!
I think Ganymede extrait has a heavy cumin note.. I wonder if its kinda the same..
@@Charlieboyfragrance the cumin note in Ganymede is a lot drier and bitter. Here it’s much humid and sweeter, it’s makes it much harder to swallow, to me at least
I used to wear this with suit and tie to work. Would get mad compliments.
@@MrLexical I can totally see that, it smells really intentional and emphasizes one’s drive.
It might be called FATE because it is inescapable. Maybe the fragrance is a reminder that FATE can not be escaped, and that harsh reality can not be avoided.
Maybe it has something to do with Soothesayers, or fortune tellers, and historical relevance surrounding their storefronts or wandering nature.
That is the best I can come up with. Once you showed me the box, I got the impression of Palm reading, Astrology, and the origins of mysticism. The way you describe it, I am imagining something long lost in history.
@@Frag-Jitsu cool interpretation! If that’s the case, the inescapable oppression of this fragrance is really fitting 😅
One house I struggle with liking. Only have Reflection man from Amouage and even that one I struggle to wear because of the over sweet jasmine note. I definitely have tried most of em but they are all so resinous and dont offer much versatility
@@sidarkoca5740 different strokes for different folks. From the entire house Reflection Man is the one that seems to me very designer like. I don’t love niche for the ease of wear.
The same as me. The only Amouage I would wear is Memoir Man
@@sidarkoca5740 well, Fate Man is easily one of the least wearable of the bunch 😂
Have you tried some of the new ones like Boundless or Lineage?
@SeldomlyOften Unfortunately, I lost interest in Amouage fragrances due to their versatility and heavy use of ouds and resinous potency. Are the ones you mentioned any good ?
Try beloved man , underrated gem head and shoulders better then reflection man . In fact if I wasn’t a collector I could easily just buy or bought 4x bottles and be done wear it all year , job done .
Thought it’s Portrayal from the thumbnail but got the CUMIN BEAST.
Will never get to experience this, was never sold in my country, but looks like a very unique experience.
@@PainfulPig definitely unique smelling, can’t fault that aspect 😅
I like strong challenging fragrances and I dress to suitable occasions with them, but I am truly afraid of pulling the trigger on a bottle of Fate Man. The other fragrance I have which is also very tiresome to wear but still lovely is Nishane Pachouli Kozha.
@@All_True_Especially_The_Lies I tried that Nishane and although it doesn’t smell similar to Fate Man, it has a very distinct heaviness to the scent profile… strong try before you buy for me.
@@SeldomlyOften Yes I completely agree. Thank you for the amazing video.
How do you find the courage to still reach for scents that are repulsive or challenging even to you? I admire your persistance😄
@@ayywolf I’m stubborn 😅
I’m fascinated by the thought that goes into stuff. Something so polarizing has to have some meaning.
Curious what you think of ELDO's "Hermann à mes Côtés me Paraissait une Ombre" - my favourite Woody/Floral scent.
@@Zverbz I have a sample of that! Need to try it soon 👍
@SeldomlyOften make sure you wait for the woody dry down,it's absolutely stunning!
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I remember my friend once describing it as "a fat businessman's perineum". I was like, "dude.....c'mon. That's awesome." 🤣 I don't think I'd be able to wear it myself though. Maybe one day.
@@justaddlight wtf 😂😂😂😅
There is a halo of truth to that, as crazy as it sounds.
There are so many amouages that really do not fit my personallity and style, but fate man is not one of them. Easy green light for me
@@Principemostprincipe really!? I don’t get green at all, which facet gives you green imagery?
@ no no green light as the opposite or red light haha.
Its a spicy amber fougere family.
I prefer it over many many amouages.
Rose incense, Opus V, Material, Meander, Search, Imitation man, Lyric Man, Figment man, King Blue, reflection man, beach hut man, purpose… Also to my nose, cumin note is stronger in overture than in fate.
Just an idea. Fate man name paired with Indian culinary may be leaning to Hinduism. The religion itself is fatalistic to its culture. Which is why Buddhism responded to, why wait for Nirvana when you can do it now!
@Betruetotgeyself interesting concept although the symbolism on the box seem more western? I love the ‘do it now’ approach.