Asexuals on tv shows are often shown as unattractive, robotic, or broken. And real life asexuals are often told “you just haven’t met the right one.” Or “I bet I can fix you.” She pretty, fun, and has personality. She was even told “she hasn’t met the right one.” This is the best representation of asexuality that I’ve ever seen on any show. I teared up at this scene....
Ikr? Exactly it. Id compare it more to thinking you crave something and opening the fridge and realizing you actually wanted water. And then getting a glass and realizing you wanted milk. Etc etc. 😅
Even though I’m not ace, I was delighted to see my ace peeps have some positive representation. Ace people rarely if ever have a character or show that properly represents their sexuality.
I haven't seen the relevant episode yet but one thing I really like about this representation is that Otis's mum tells Florence that it's okay to be asexual /as a sex therapist/. There have been several real-world cases of sex therapists either seeing asexuality as a problem to be fixed or thinking it's not a real sexual orientation, it's just repression or trauma or a mental or physical illness. I haven't really seen anyone mention this aspect, but I think it highlights how important it is to have this kind of validation for an ace character.
Yep, that was cool. And it shows how great she is at her job, comparing to Othis that the girl saw first. Othis really didn't get it, he just thought she wasn't like ready, like him. So having his mum saying as a sex therapist it is ok is even better.
Feeling broken is such a mood when it comes to asexuality, and I've dealt with it so long. When I learned about asexuality, it was absolutely mind-blowing. To discover that there was something that described ME, and I wasn't just broken. I really wish there was more representation, and it makes me so happy to see ace representation making its way into media even in little ways
"Finding the right person" is the most diabolic thing I heard all of my 35 years of life. I just grow up thinking 99% of people found the right person but me. And THAT'S NOT IT. But it took me at least 30 years of life and like 17 of suffering and feeling I'm broke. Until I think that I was the only one person on Earth that doesn't find sex worth it. Until a few months ago I found the Ace community and everything is better now, I feel that I'm ok, and totally not broken. So it's really important this representation on tv and other places 💕
Ok but can it though? I've been working yellow into my wardrobe more and an iconic yellow hat would be neat, whether in beanie or beret form. It could be like the ace equivalent to lesbians being known for having quirky earrings. Does Sherlock's vaguely brownish deerstalker hat fit the pattern too?
I think what is also quite important about Florence and what doesn't get talked about enough is that we see her fully embracing her asexuality. In the later episodes, she seems much happier and so much more at ease. She uses the label with confidence and pride and she says that her life is changed for the better. And I think that is absolutely wonderful!
This episode meant a lot to me, because I have to deal with these situations more than I wished. And of course the cursed saying “you’ll find someone” it doesn’t matter how many times I hear it, it always stings. And being in the same situation as Florence is, it’s hard to not feel like your broken. Though it’s short in the episode, I’m still glad it was mentioned. I’m happy that you talked about this!
"if i was a person who cried in tv shows, i would cry" oh that's me, i was crying so much 😂i'm so thankful for that scene & the creation of florence. i watched all of season 1 a year ago HOPING they'd have ace rep and was slightly disappointed when they didn't, & i know people sent gillian anderson a bunch of questions asking for it during a few q&a's a while ago & idk if that feedback inspired the ace rep or if they were intending to do it all along, but i'm just so thankful they introduced florence (who is cute as HECK with her scottish accent and yellow hat) & i'm hoping she comes back in season 3 to explore more of her character & struggles (they might, because some of the minor side characters in s1 ended up getting way more depth this season, so here's hoping 🤞) but i'm just so happy they included asexuality this season 😭
my friends think i'm insane bc florence is barely on screen but still my fav character but i mean,,, she's ace, a theater kid and she WEARS A BERET.. what's not to love?
I just wish they would have ace characters in sci-fi and fantasy cartoons because that's basically all I want to watch. Every time a show has an ace I either can't stand the main character or the genre.
These are my sentiments exactly! I would never have watched any of the shows with ace representation in so far if it weren't for the channel. Where are our ace characters in sci-fi and fantasy?!
I actually think, that Luffy from One Piece might be an aro/ace. Like he doesn't care about nude women or anything like that at all, for example the most wanted, most beautiful woman of the One-Piece-world loves him and he isn't even aware of it. Everything he wants is become pirate king, find friends and have adventures with those friends. The author of the manga once answered the question if there will be romantic relationships inbetween the crewmembers with a no, because a) he is scared of pissing of the shipping community and b) because the bond of the crew is already stronger than anything else he can imagine, even without romance or sex and especially the part b) made me as an aro/ace really happy. That's probably also why it's still one of my favorite series ever: the romantic/sexual relationships are never shown as more important than the friendships and if there is a romance it either naturally fits into the story or it is a subplot, but it never is the main motor of the story. Sorry for the rant, but I think One Piece is often overlooked by aces, because of the quite sexual way the women (and men) are drawn, but if someone's willing to ignore that, they might realize that there is a lot of emphasis on friendships, following dreams and respecting others, social criticism (royalty, corruption, slavery, etc) and such.
Really happy to see a program get ace representation right, haven't seen any of the series (had no interest in watching it) but I might just watch that one bit to see the scene for myself.
It was seeing the scene between Florence and Jean Milburn (Otis' mum) in one of _One Topic At A Time's_ videos that made me want to watch the series. Yeah, the series is very heavily into the sex scenes and the relationship dramas but I put up with both for the sake of the fun characters and the humour.
Yeah I tried to watch sex education when it first came out bc we stan Asa Butterfield (Otis in the show) but I quickly realized it wasn't the show for me. A lot of my friends told me that there was an ace character in the second season but I didnt wanna see all the other bits. Thank you for telling me the time stamps!! Ok... I'm gonna quote Otis' mom from now on. WHAT A GOOD LINE. I am the type of person to cry at tv shows. I may have teared up a bit.
I cried watching that scene with the counselor, there's so little ace representation in the media and seeing it done so well in a show that so many teenagers and people in general will be watching its so great and we need to see it done more
I was really happy, I always knew I was ace but didn't knew the concept, the name of it, I've done my research to found out a few month ago, I'm completely open about it (except with my family) and I felt a bit hurt recently since, I know that it wasn't meant to hurt me but I came out to some of my friends because we were talking about sexuality and stuff and they mostly said to me : "no but don't worry, you haven't felt it yet but it will come" and I spent almost 30 minutes explaining to them that nope, I won't have sex with anyone ever and it was difficult and painful because they didn't understand because it's not a big topic and in TV shows, books, everything, it's not normal to not have sex... So representation feels good 👌
I have one friend who says she's supportive of it but also fundamentally doesn't understand it. Doesn't understand why I'm content with it and is worried it will make dating harder for me. If I tell anyone else I'm asexual and my friend is there she says "don't put yourself in a box. Sexuality is fluid." I know she means well but it still hurts and it is cause they ultimately don't get it. For them it would be torture or incredibly depressing, but for us it's great, we get who we are.
@@pippylunalove I totally get that feeling, and she's right dating will be harder at one point I even said to myself "If I date someone, I will let my partner go with someone to have relations you know, but that's not a concern our friends should have, and even if they don't understand us, they should try to respect who we are, but the problem is that they are poisoned with the fact that being asexual is being anormal. I never watched a show or read a book where a character was asexual apart from sex education this month and it's problematic.
personally as someone who has watched both seasons, as much as I love the tiny slice of the show that involves asexuality, I feel like it still falls a little short. Her being in the play, something that is a pretty big element of the second season, there could have been many other areas that they could have expanded on their representation. the play that the ace character was in was not just Romeo and Juliet, but a 'post-modern' version as they call it, changed to be a lot more sexual, opening up the possibility to explore how she then reacts to the play, as well as potential discussions with the other characters. Instead, it kinda felt a little shoehorny, there really wasn't much else to her character besides her being used for the mini ace arc. As a whole I feel like her character didn't really have any effect or interaction with the plot, so having an ace character seems to be the only real reason why shes there. Now I'm not saying that they shouldn't have included it in the show, and yes I cried a little during the scene with Otis's mum. The cynic in me just feels like they were just checking of a box for representation. There is no way that one little conversation would suddenly conclude all the kinda self-doubt and feeling out of loop with such a sexual culture as portrayed in the school. I'm not saying that her arc needed to be massive, just a few little bits here and there would have been nice, maybe a conversation with her friends that have been telling her to have sex, or a proper conversation with Otis, could have been a great way to transition into the idea that Otis's sex advise business has its problems, and can be unethical as is kind touched on towards the end of the season. I get it, it is nice to have an actual cannon character that is ace, and for the language to also be used in the show, but I don't think it should be hailed as this great thing when really it was barely touched on, felt a little disconnected to the plot, and seemed to have a lot of natural potential to be, or for the character themselves to be part of the plot.
I understand where you're coming from, and I admit that I don't have the benefit of seeing the rest of the show to see it in context. It definitely would be better if there were more representation.
Yep, her purpose it mostly to acknoledge asexuality exist, not to be an actual character, but I think it is already great, they really do it her arc well even if it was just for one episode.
I love how this show is filling the huge sex ed gap in our global education system. Most education systems still lack quality in sex ed, for example mentioning asexuality and more on. And they dealt with asexuality so well!! It is mentioned so casually and powerfully. And that line! Yayayay
YES, finally this is in something like this! As a supporter of people in the Ace community, and the rest of the LGBTQ+ community, this is awesome.. There needs to be something like this, since so many people who are Ace don't know there Ace for a long time, and with something like this that might be easier to figure out! We need more stuff like this in media. :0>
Why non sexual people is in lgbt commy, if beeing gay or lesbian and etc it all about sex relationship and beeing atracted by someone. When Ace is the opposite?
An asexual’s guide to watching this episode (without the sex.) Florence was not in the show until this episode, but I’ve got a general guide below that may be useful to folks who want to browse which parts to watch (or avoid). Character guide at the bottom. 0:00-2:00 CW (almost?)sex scene (Otis and Ola)(skip this bit probably) 2:00-3:00 some nudity (Jean, has blanket over herself) 3:00-4:00 Jean and Jakob talk in the kitchen 4:00-5:00 Maeve talks with Erin before school 5:00-5:45 Eric tries to talk to Adam but then Rahim comes out 5:45-6:20 Aimee tries to ride the bus to school but ends up walking (SA trauma) 6:20-7:50 Eric and Otis catch up at their school lockers, share Otis’ plans with Ola to have sex soon 7:50-8:15 People talk about sex with Jean (explicit discussion/skip) 8:15-8:50 Florence rehearses for the school play but is told she’s not convincing / doesn’t seem sexually attracted to her Romeo 8:50-9:25 Florence with her friends, they don’t understand why she’s not into anyone (CW aphobia) 9:25-10:00 the principal sees his wife going to see Jean and is suspicious 10:00- the principal’s wife (To be continued) Florence’s story / scenes: 8:15-8:50 We meet Florence, she’s rehearsing to play Juliet in the school play. 8:50-9:25 Florence discussion with her peers, who don’t get why she’s not into the jock playing Romeo (TW aphobia) (To be continued) Character guide: Otis - main character, mother is a sex therapist, he’s sort of started giving advice for cash at school (runs the “sex clinic” at school with Mauve). He’s in a love triangle with his girlfriend Ola and Maeve, who he had a crush on before. Best friend is Eric. Eric - main character, Otis’ gay best friend, in a love triangle with Adam and Rahim. In previous episodes, Adam bullied him but then kissed him in detention before being sent to military school. Eric has essentially begun dating Rahim in his absence, but things are complicated now that Adam has returned. Ola - Otis’ girlfriend, knows that there’s some kind of love triangle going on and doesn’t like it. Her dad has also started dating Otis’ mom (awkward!) Maeve - runs the “sex clinic” with Otis, has family issues, and is very smart but doesn’t have a support system of her own. Jean - Otis’ mother, sex therapist (which has made things very awkward for Otis), she is not a teacher at his school, but is doing a sort of evaluation / become a sort of sex advisor there recently? It’s caused some competition with Otis’ “sex clinic” (which she doesn’t know about!) Jakob - Ola’s dad, Jean’s boyfriend Erin - Maeve’s estranged mother (addict, in recovery) Rahim - has been dating Eric, lives above the shop where Adam works Adam - used to bully Eric, then kissed him in detention, then was sent to military school, then got kicked out of that school, is now back (did I mention his dad’s the principal?) Aimee - Maeve’s best friend, was assaulted recently, she’s seen struggling with the trauma a bit in this episode Sorry, I haven't gotten to finishing yet - I'll try to continue later, or maybe someone else will :) I hope this helps!
I went and watched these parts of the episode and genuinely started sobbing when she went to otis’ mom. Ive never seen any media say something like that and its so nice to hear.
I’m honestly really glad this show has an asexual rep. Whilst I don’t watch the show, and don’t plan on doing so, pretty much every one in my school watches it. I came to school one time, and people were talking about asexuality, which I found odd as I didn’t think most people would knew what it was. Unfortunately, they were teasing a girl if they were asexual in a somewhat rude way, but I was quite happy that they knew what it was. I’m SO glad a show that’s popular with teens was able to tackle asexuality. A lot of the other shows with ace rep (BoJack and kinda Steven Universe?) aren’t popular with teens at my school so I’m happy this show tackled it. If I ever come out, I hopefully now won’t have to explain that I DON’T reproduce asexually.
I liked the representation. This is one of the first I have seen, I know about bojack horseman but I haven't watched it. I would have liked them to go into more depth yes, but it's a good start. As so many of my friends have watched it and not all of them know I'm asexual, at least now they'll have a point of reference for this is a real thing.
Don't feel bad. I was slogging through this show to get a sex education and it felt like homework! 😂 I haven't made it through the first season, but now I am going to have to take a sneak peak at this episode.
This clip online, after it came out, is what made me want to watch the show. It was far too graphic for me and I couldn't get through episode one. But once Ncuti was cast as the Doctor, I wanted to see his work in this show and gave it another try. I fell in love with his character and was carried through to this episode (I just maybe look away during some bits.) Even though I watched the clip on Facebook a while ago, I just... I broke down crying when I saw it in this episode. Didn't even realize until the tears were falling. Representation- especially good representation like this- is so impactful and important.
I think that overall, your analysis of this was very good! It's always great to see ace representation, and I agree that the explanation of asexuality by Jean (Otis' mom) was pretty spot on, if a bit short. I have watched the series in full. I think that overall, the ace representation was pretty good here, though basically the bare minimum. I'm always in favor of greater representation, but not quite in depth enough to really get the full picture. I perfectly understood everything that Jean was saying, but I'm also ace and already knew it all, going into it. For someone who doesn't already know about asexuality, I think that it could be a lot of information to try and comprehend in too little time, which makes me a bit skeptical as to how many more people it will educate on ace issues (though it is definitely a step in the right direction). The other issue that I had with it was that after her talk with Jean when she learned about asexuality, Florence was immediately "cured" so to speak of the things that had been plaguing her mind, which seemed a bit optimistic. I think that the show could have done better by portraying some of the issues that ace people face, even after they learn about asexuality and/or come out rather than just making it seem like once Florence learned about asexuality, everything was magically perfect and there were no more issues for her, and everyone lived happily ever after, the end. However, despite those issues, I'm very glad to see asexuality getting more representation, and am hopeful that this is a big positive step for the future.
It goes to show that Otis still has much to learn about other things, like asexuality. He's a good advice giver, but he's limited to topics that aren't part of his area.
I cried hysterically when I saw this episode :) I just wish that there would have been more Florence in the show! Maybe a partner, showing her romantic attraction
It took me such a long time to accept my asexuality, especially since I'm relatively young and everyone kept telling me "it'll develop, you have time" or "you just haven't met the right person yet", and yeah, I might someday develop sexual attraction, but it's looking more and more unlikely every day. Especially when dating for the first time, and being unable to supply my boyfriend with what he so clearly wanted (and breaking up because of it, it was hard thinking that it wasn't my fault. That I wasn't broken. I want to fall in love. I like physical contact a lot. I just don't like sex. I don't see the appeal. And if someone had come and told me what Otis's mum told Florence a while ago, if there was more representation like this, it would've saved me a lot of pain . I still tear up when hearing that final statement.
I came out to my friend yesterday as ace and she told me to watch this show bcos of the ace rep. And so I tried watching the show but after about 10 mins of the first episode, it was too much as I’m also sex averse. So tysm for doing this video as I’m now gonna go watch them specific scenes! ☺️
This video was great! I had the same experience, when I found out an ace character was in the show I gave it a try but couldn't get past the pilot for the same reasons, so having the exact time stamps of where to find the ace rep was so good!
I’m 18 and have gotten into my first ever relationship only a month ago. In the past I’ve known I’ve never had the urge to do anything of the sexual sort, but I always thought when the right person came along it would just click. I really really like this person romantically but I still feel uncomfortable kissing or even just cuddling too long, and I still can’t possibly imagine sex . I’m kinda panicking because they must expect something from me some day :(
If you can, it might be worth having a conversation with your partner about it. It would be better if it comes up earlier so they don't feel like they've been led on. But of course, it's 100% your decision if you want to tell someone, and never feel any pressure to say or do anything, especially something sexual. I hope that it goes well :)
Slice of Ace thank you so much, I definitely would like to work myself up to talk about it as I don’t want to be unfair to him. Thanks for the support and advice 😊
When I was 22 I also got into my first relationships with similar feelings that you were experiencing. I was terrified that he would dump me because of it, although I didn't have to worry as he was fine with it. But I think also cause I am a very non touchy person anyway he had kind of figured out that I needed to take things really really really really slowly. So talk to your person when you feel like you can. Or text them, if you feel too nervous, like I did.
pippylunalove thanks, I’m glad I’m not the only one, he also kind of realised I’m not as into kissing and touching and that as he is so hopefully it won’t be a huge shock
At long last.....the character of Florence provides a representation of asexuality that is not negative and even repels some of the most generally accepted horrid prejudices (aces are not attractive, not interesting, have some weird illness that needs fixing, haven't met 'the one'). there is still a long way to go - but this is certainly a good start.
I was so happy because I didn't expected it. After the first scene of season 1, I was giving up of Othis being demisexual and thought they will never talk about it. Then in the episode, when she started to say how not intersted int sex she is, I tried not to hope. And then I was so happy when Jean bring the subject! I like it came from her and not from Othis, who is making everything about himself and just thought she asn't ready, not she was asxual, that was realistic. Now it will be complete if they have an aro allo character in season 3 (just picture Othis trying to gave sex advice to an aro allo, as he is clearly thinking sex and love should alays be linked; that would be awesome).
I like the series I remember that I was excited when I heard the word "asexual" being told in the series "The end of the fxxxing world", but this one is even better, albeit short and on a not really important character but well it's an awesome improvement!!!
Wouldn’t it be nicer just to see representation of someone actually happy to be ace, instead of struggling with them feeling so weird and broken. I’d rather see a normalised QPR than ace overcomes struggles of being broken.
I tried to watch this series but found the amount of sex just far too triggering and when I found out there was ace representation I was so so worried they would totally mess it up because I know people who mean a lot to me who have watched it and I just hoped to god it wouldn’t make anything worse. Hopefully it went ok then
Freezing it that way does make sense, and if you're going to compare it to food I think in my case I'm not hungry but I'm also not bothered by other people eating or even making jokes about food. I'm just not personally hungry. It's kind of the same with romance being compared to flowers, I can't smell them that doesn't mean I don't like the concept of flowers or like looking at flowers.
i am gray ace with libido and i actually really like the show but not for the actual sex stuff. i like the idea of the show and im a fan of the characters but i get really uncomfortable during the scenes with naked people
The first scene in the series made me feel so grossed out. And then the setting was so culturally off - an American highschool in the uk - that I couldn't stand it. I don't understand from the first episode why it's rated so highly by my friends. But it's good that asexuality is getting some representation in the show. :)
I loved their description of the buffet and not feeling hungry and I think they did a wonderful job but (maybe it’s just me) the way I feel is I see the buffet, I’m not hungry but I want to feel as hungry and full as everyone else so I try to eat like them to achieve that (not trying to fit in with them but feel the same fulfillment and fullness that they feel) does anyone else feel Ike that?
I want to say "Yay! Representation!" But my bar just got higher again. Sure, Ace. But what about ARO/Ace? I'm fed up with hearing about romance and all these cute aces in YA stories where all the Ace characters get to "fall in wuuuùuuuuv" ❤💖💗🤮. I dare a writer to avoid the easy low-hanging fruit of treacle "romance" for once, and right a solid story about an aromantic ace who battles prejudice and mockery to find the perfect intense friendship. It is my dream happy ending. Aros are intensely feeling people! Excluded. AGAIN.
Sorry for the rant last night. Relatively accurate ace rep is good, romantic or aro-. 🙂 I will be watching at least 2 or 3 episodes of "Sex Education," so thanks for the suggestion. And thanks for the content!
Okay this is way too late, but you absolutely should read 'Loveless' by Alice Oseman. The writer herself is aroace and the story is precisely what you described and the best aroace representation that exists
@@annemoondegroen987 Had it imported nearly a year before the American edition ever came out. A lot of feels, but mostly anger & childish jealousy that Georgia got to discover her orientation at 18, not past middle age like me. I spent 50 years thinking I was srraight & just waiting for that magical attraction thing to kick in. I knew I was asexual, but I thought the A stood for ally
Is it an asexual thing to not cry at tv or movies because I have only cried at a movie once and any other asexual I’ve met have been similar Just wondering if any other asexuals are similar
I don't cry much at films and TV, but I doubt it's a universal thing for all aces. Maybe it's more likely though? Though, to be fair, I watched Onward (the Pixar film) the other day, and I cried quite a bit. For context, my dad died when I was young so it hit very close to home 😅
Before I watched any Sex Education, I saw David J Bradley's video where he mentioned the ace character in the show. However, between watching David's video and the series, I'd forgotten her name and thought it was actually going to be Lily the comic book girl and not Florence that told Jean about her asexuality. So I watched through the lens of Lily's comic book fantasies and her insistence that she wanted to have sex as some form of denial of her innate asexuality, in the sense of how can she not know that she is uninterested in sex when she hasn't had it. Florence doesn't feature heavily in the second series but there is going to be a third so there may be scope to develop her character more then.
Interesting that so many people liked Florence and the way Sex Education represented asexual people. I found it to be tokenistic and shallow. Obviously I'm in a minority. Good that it's represented in some way - at least it was mentioned.
I am still trying to figure it out but all these describe me. I dont see what sex is all about. There's so much hyoe about it and i just look. I don't mind giving in a relationship but i csnt reciprocate. I don't eben know if i make sense. Sex is weird and uncomfortable. I don't feel sexual feelings for smy of the guys i have been with. I thought there's something wrong with me. I actually think i had genophobia because 😢😢😢 i just don't know anymore. I do want to fall in love some day but sex 👐👐 i am not interested. I literally tried to force myself to feel during some form of intimacy but things failed. Who can i talk to? 🥺🥺
Fair, but I did watch the episode in question, which was, from what I have heard, a self-contained story. I felt that the context of the other episodes wouldn't have changed my opinion of the ace sub plot at all 😊
The series is not well written plot-wise as it jumbles relationship dynamics frequently. However, its exposure of sexual dynamics within society without pandering to the audience is direly needed in this political climate of abstinence education pushers and lgbtqa+ deniers. Just a shame its not well written show as it's a bore most of its viewing.
Asexuals on tv shows are often shown as unattractive, robotic, or broken.
And real life asexuals are often told “you just haven’t met the right one.” Or “I bet I can fix you.”
She pretty, fun, and has personality. She was even told “she hasn’t met the right one.”
This is the best representation of asexuality that I’ve ever seen on any show.
I teared up at this scene....
for me as an ace with libido it's more like being hungry and opening the fridge full of good food, but still not craving any of it 😅
Same, I didn't watch the show but I saw the scene somewhere and thought: well, actually, for me it's the other way round xD
Exactly what I was thinking lol that’s how I feel.
Ikr? Exactly it. Id compare it more to thinking you crave something and opening the fridge and realizing you actually wanted water. And then getting a glass and realizing you wanted milk. Etc etc. 😅
OMG this is such a good metaphor
The representation made me so happy! especially since there aren't many asexual characters in the media!
Even though I’m not ace, I was delighted to see my ace peeps have some positive representation.
Ace people rarely if ever have a character or show that properly represents their sexuality.
Thank you one person in comments of videos like this who isn’t ace and isn’t acephobic
@Screw 2020 I was about to mention our ace king Todd
I haven't seen the relevant episode yet but one thing I really like about this representation is that Otis's mum tells Florence that it's okay to be asexual /as a sex therapist/. There have been several real-world cases of sex therapists either seeing asexuality as a problem to be fixed or thinking it's not a real sexual orientation, it's just repression or trauma or a mental or physical illness. I haven't really seen anyone mention this aspect, but I think it highlights how important it is to have this kind of validation for an ace character.
Definitely. It's validation from someone who is a professional and qualified to talk about sex and sexuality, which makes it more impacful, I think :)
Yep, that was cool. And it shows how great she is at her job, comparing to Othis that the girl saw first. Othis really didn't get it, he just thought she wasn't like ready, like him. So having his mum saying as a sex therapist it is ok is even better.
Feeling broken is such a mood when it comes to asexuality, and I've dealt with it so long. When I learned about asexuality, it was absolutely mind-blowing. To discover that there was something that described ME, and I wasn't just broken. I really wish there was more representation, and it makes me so happy to see ace representation making its way into media even in little ways
"Finding the right person" is the most diabolic thing I heard all of my 35 years of life. I just grow up thinking 99% of people found the right person but me. And THAT'S NOT IT. But it took me at least 30 years of life and like 17 of suffering and feeling I'm broke. Until I think that I was the only one person on Earth that doesn't find sex worth it. Until a few months ago I found the Ace community and everything is better now, I feel that I'm ok, and totally not broken. So it's really important this representation on tv and other places 💕
I'll admit the asexual girl is cute. I do like how Otis' mom doesn't shame anyone.
Hope a yellow hat is going to become an ace thing.
It is a snazzy hat!
I own a yellow beanie much like the one Todd wears on Bojack Horseman, coincidence I think not.
Aliyah Bentley yes that perfect warm toned mustard Beret 😍
Ok but can it though? I've been working yellow into my wardrobe more and an iconic yellow hat would be neat, whether in beanie or beret form. It could be like the ace equivalent to lesbians being known for having quirky earrings.
Does Sherlock's vaguely brownish deerstalker hat fit the pattern too?
I think what is also quite important about Florence and what doesn't get talked about enough is that we see her fully embracing her asexuality. In the later episodes, she seems much happier and so much more at ease. She uses the label with confidence and pride and she says that her life is changed for the better.
And I think that is absolutely wonderful!
This episode meant a lot to me, because I have to deal with these situations more than I wished.
And of course the cursed saying “you’ll find someone” it doesn’t matter how many times I hear it, it always stings.
And being in the same situation as Florence is, it’s hard to not feel like your broken.
Though it’s short in the episode, I’m still glad it was mentioned.
I’m happy that you talked about this!
"if i was a person who cried in tv shows, i would cry" oh that's me, i was crying so much 😂i'm so thankful for that scene & the creation of florence. i watched all of season 1 a year ago HOPING they'd have ace rep and was slightly disappointed when they didn't, & i know people sent gillian anderson a bunch of questions asking for it during a few q&a's a while ago & idk if that feedback inspired the ace rep or if they were intending to do it all along, but i'm just so thankful they introduced florence (who is cute as HECK with her scottish accent and yellow hat) & i'm hoping she comes back in season 3 to explore more of her character & struggles (they might, because some of the minor side characters in s1 ended up getting way more depth this season, so here's hoping 🤞) but i'm just so happy they included asexuality this season 😭
Me too! She was a great character. I especially liked "I'm like Meryl Streep, but young... and Scottish" 😂
my friends think i'm insane bc florence is barely on screen but still my fav character but i mean,,, she's ace, a theater kid and she WEARS A BERET.. what's not to love?
That is a fantastic beret :)
@@SliceOfAce YES. exactly.
She did everything I should have done in school
Florice* character does continues to apear on the series, and there is a second part of this arc in the finale, if anyone is interested
I just wish they would have ace characters in sci-fi and fantasy cartoons because that's basically all I want to watch. Every time a show has an ace I either can't stand the main character or the genre.
These are my sentiments exactly! I would never have watched any of the shows with ace representation in so far if it weren't for the channel. Where are our ace characters in sci-fi and fantasy?!
I actually think, that Luffy from One Piece might be an aro/ace. Like he doesn't care about nude women or anything like that at all, for example the most wanted, most beautiful woman of the One-Piece-world loves him and he isn't even aware of it. Everything he wants is become pirate king, find friends and have adventures with those friends.
The author of the manga once answered the question if there will be romantic relationships inbetween the crewmembers with a no, because a) he is scared of pissing of the shipping community and b) because the bond of the crew is already stronger than anything else he can imagine, even without romance or sex and especially the part b) made me as an aro/ace really happy.
That's probably also why it's still one of my favorite series ever: the romantic/sexual relationships are never shown as more important than the friendships and if there is a romance it either naturally fits into the story or it is a subplot, but it never is the main motor of the story.
Sorry for the rant, but I think One Piece is often overlooked by aces, because of the quite sexual way the women (and men) are drawn, but if someone's willing to ignore that, they might realize that there is a lot of emphasis on friendships, following dreams and respecting others, social criticism (royalty, corruption, slavery, etc) and such.
Really happy to see a program get ace representation right, haven't seen any of the series (had no interest in watching it) but I might just watch that one bit to see the scene for myself.
Totally worth it!
@@SliceOfAce I've seen it now, it was!
It was seeing the scene between Florence and Jean Milburn (Otis' mum) in one of _One Topic At A Time's_ videos that made me want to watch the series. Yeah, the series is very heavily into the sex scenes and the relationship dramas but I put up with both for the sake of the fun characters and the humour.
Yeah I tried to watch sex education when it first came out bc we stan Asa Butterfield (Otis in the show) but I quickly realized it wasn't the show for me. A lot of my friends told me that there was an ace character in the second season but I didnt wanna see all the other bits. Thank you for telling me the time stamps!!
Ok... I'm gonna quote Otis' mom from now on. WHAT A GOOD LINE. I am the type of person to cry at tv shows. I may have teared up a bit.
I liked the representation but it sucks that it's a very minor character with little screen time
I just loved the fact that he put the "sex scenes to avoid" in the description of the video. Thank you very much, Daniel :)
I cried watching that scene with the counselor, there's so little ace representation in the media and seeing it done so well in a show that so many teenagers and people in general will be watching its so great and we need to see it done more
I was really happy, I always knew I was ace but didn't knew the concept, the name of it, I've done my research to found out a few month ago, I'm completely open about it (except with my family) and I felt a bit hurt recently since, I know that it wasn't meant to hurt me but I came out to some of my friends because we were talking about sexuality and stuff and they mostly said to me : "no but don't worry, you haven't felt it yet but it will come" and I spent almost 30 minutes explaining to them that nope, I won't have sex with anyone ever and it was difficult and painful because they didn't understand because it's not a big topic and in TV shows, books, everything, it's not normal to not have sex... So representation feels good 👌
I have one friend who says she's supportive of it but also fundamentally doesn't understand it. Doesn't understand why I'm content with it and is worried it will make dating harder for me. If I tell anyone else I'm asexual and my friend is there she says "don't put yourself in a box. Sexuality is fluid." I know she means well but it still hurts and it is cause they ultimately don't get it. For them it would be torture or incredibly depressing, but for us it's great, we get who we are.
@@pippylunalove I totally get that feeling, and she's right dating will be harder at one point I even said to myself "If I date someone, I will let my partner go with someone to have relations you know, but that's not a concern our friends should have, and even if they don't understand us, they should try to respect who we are, but the problem is that they are poisoned with the fact that being asexual is being anormal. I never watched a show or read a book where a character was asexual apart from sex education this month and it's problematic.
personally as someone who has watched both seasons, as much as I love the tiny slice of the show that involves asexuality, I feel like it still falls a little short. Her being in the play, something that is a pretty big element of the second season, there could have been many other areas that they could have expanded on their representation. the play that the ace character was in was not just Romeo and Juliet, but a 'post-modern' version as they call it, changed to be a lot more sexual, opening up the possibility to explore how she then reacts to the play, as well as potential discussions with the other characters. Instead, it kinda felt a little shoehorny, there really wasn't much else to her character besides her being used for the mini ace arc. As a whole I feel like her character didn't really have any effect or interaction with the plot, so having an ace character seems to be the only real reason why shes there. Now I'm not saying that they shouldn't have included it in the show, and yes I cried a little during the scene with Otis's mum. The cynic in me just feels like they were just checking of a box for representation. There is no way that one little conversation would suddenly conclude all the kinda self-doubt and feeling out of loop with such a sexual culture as portrayed in the school. I'm not saying that her arc needed to be massive, just a few little bits here and there would have been nice, maybe a conversation with her friends that have been telling her to have sex, or a proper conversation with Otis, could have been a great way to transition into the idea that Otis's sex advise business has its problems, and can be unethical as is kind touched on towards the end of the season. I get it, it is nice to have an actual cannon character that is ace, and for the language to also be used in the show, but I don't think it should be hailed as this great thing when really it was barely touched on, felt a little disconnected to the plot, and seemed to have a lot of natural potential to be, or for the character themselves to be part of the plot.
I understand where you're coming from, and I admit that I don't have the benefit of seeing the rest of the show to see it in context. It definitely would be better if there were more representation.
I agree 100% with you
Yep, her purpose it mostly to acknoledge asexuality exist, not to be an actual character, but I think it is already great, they really do it her arc well even if it was just for one episode.
I love how this show is filling the huge sex ed gap in our global education system. Most education systems still lack quality in sex ed, for example mentioning asexuality and more on. And they dealt with asexuality so well!! It is mentioned so casually and powerfully. And that line! Yayayay
YES, finally this is in something like this! As a supporter of people in the Ace community, and the rest of the LGBTQ+ community, this is awesome.. There needs to be something like this, since so many people who are Ace don't know there Ace for a long time, and with something like this that might be easier to figure out! We need more stuff like this in media. :0>
Why non sexual people is in lgbt commy, if beeing gay or lesbian and etc it all about sex relationship and beeing atracted by someone. When Ace is the opposite?
An asexual’s guide to watching this episode (without the sex.)
Florence was not in the show until this episode, but I’ve got a general guide below that may be useful to folks who want to browse which parts to watch (or avoid). Character guide at the bottom.
0:00-2:00 CW (almost?)sex scene (Otis and Ola)(skip this bit probably)
2:00-3:00 some nudity (Jean, has blanket over herself)
3:00-4:00 Jean and Jakob talk in the kitchen
4:00-5:00 Maeve talks with Erin before school
5:00-5:45 Eric tries to talk to Adam but then Rahim comes out
5:45-6:20 Aimee tries to ride the bus to school but ends up walking (SA trauma)
6:20-7:50 Eric and Otis catch up at their school lockers, share Otis’ plans with Ola to have sex soon
7:50-8:15 People talk about sex with Jean (explicit discussion/skip)
8:15-8:50 Florence rehearses for the school play but is told she’s not convincing / doesn’t seem sexually attracted to her Romeo
8:50-9:25 Florence with her friends, they don’t understand why she’s not into anyone (CW aphobia)
9:25-10:00 the principal sees his wife going to see Jean and is suspicious
10:00- the principal’s wife
(To be continued)
Florence’s story / scenes:
8:15-8:50 We meet Florence, she’s rehearsing to play Juliet in the school play.
8:50-9:25 Florence discussion with her peers, who don’t get why she’s not into the jock playing Romeo (TW aphobia)
(To be continued)
Character guide:
Otis - main character, mother is a sex therapist, he’s sort of started giving advice for cash at school (runs the “sex clinic” at school with Mauve). He’s in a love triangle with his girlfriend Ola and Maeve, who he had a crush on before. Best friend is Eric.
Eric - main character, Otis’ gay best friend, in a love triangle with Adam and Rahim. In previous episodes, Adam bullied him but then kissed him in detention before being sent to military school. Eric has essentially begun dating Rahim in his absence, but things are complicated now that Adam has returned.
Ola - Otis’ girlfriend, knows that there’s some kind of love triangle going on and doesn’t like it. Her dad has also started dating Otis’ mom (awkward!)
Maeve - runs the “sex clinic” with Otis, has family issues, and is very smart but doesn’t have a support system of her own.
Jean - Otis’ mother, sex therapist (which has made things very awkward for Otis), she is not a teacher at his school, but is doing a sort of evaluation / become a sort of sex advisor there recently? It’s caused some competition with Otis’ “sex clinic” (which she doesn’t know about!)
Jakob - Ola’s dad, Jean’s boyfriend
Erin - Maeve’s estranged mother (addict, in recovery)
Rahim - has been dating Eric, lives above the shop where Adam works
Adam - used to bully Eric, then kissed him in detention, then was sent to military school, then got kicked out of that school, is now back (did I mention his dad’s the principal?)
Aimee - Maeve’s best friend, was assaulted recently, she’s seen struggling with the trauma a bit in this episode
Sorry, I haven't gotten to finishing yet - I'll try to continue later, or maybe someone else will :) I hope this helps!
I went and watched these parts of the episode and genuinely started sobbing when she went to otis’ mom. Ive never seen any media say something like that and its so nice to hear.
I'm so happy that you added timestamps in the description so we can avoid the sex scenes :))
i just find them quite uncomfortable so that really helps
I’m honestly really glad this show has an asexual rep. Whilst I don’t watch the show, and don’t plan on doing so, pretty much every one in my school watches it.
I came to school one time, and people were talking about asexuality, which I found odd as I didn’t think most people would knew what it was. Unfortunately, they were teasing a girl if they were asexual in a somewhat rude way, but I was quite happy that they knew what it was.
I’m SO glad a show that’s popular with teens was able to tackle asexuality. A lot of the other shows with ace rep (BoJack and kinda Steven Universe?) aren’t popular with teens at my school so I’m happy this show tackled it. If I ever come out, I hopefully now won’t have to explain that I DON’T reproduce asexually.
That's really cool that the show has created a conversation around asexuality 😊
I liked the representation. This is one of the first I have seen, I know about bojack horseman but I haven't watched it. I would have liked them to go into more depth yes, but it's a good start. As so many of my friends have watched it and not all of them know I'm asexual, at least now they'll have a point of reference for this is a real thing.
Don't feel bad. I was slogging through this show to get a sex education and it felt like homework! 😂 I haven't made it through the first season, but now I am going to have to take a sneak peak at this episode.
This clip online, after it came out, is what made me want to watch the show. It was far too graphic for me and I couldn't get through episode one. But once Ncuti was cast as the Doctor, I wanted to see his work in this show and gave it another try. I fell in love with his character and was carried through to this episode (I just maybe look away during some bits.) Even though I watched the clip on Facebook a while ago, I just... I broke down crying when I saw it in this episode. Didn't even realize until the tears were falling. Representation- especially good representation like this- is so impactful and important.
I literally didn't know about this series at all, I saw a gif set on tumblr of the scene in the office, and I started crying just with that.
I think that overall, your analysis of this was very good! It's always great to see ace representation, and I agree that the explanation of asexuality by Jean (Otis' mom) was pretty spot on, if a bit short. I have watched the series in full. I think that overall, the ace representation was pretty good here, though basically the bare minimum. I'm always in favor of greater representation, but not quite in depth enough to really get the full picture. I perfectly understood everything that Jean was saying, but I'm also ace and already knew it all, going into it. For someone who doesn't already know about asexuality, I think that it could be a lot of information to try and comprehend in too little time, which makes me a bit skeptical as to how many more people it will educate on ace issues (though it is definitely a step in the right direction). The other issue that I had with it was that after her talk with Jean when she learned about asexuality, Florence was immediately "cured" so to speak of the things that had been plaguing her mind, which seemed a bit optimistic. I think that the show could have done better by portraying some of the issues that ace people face, even after they learn about asexuality and/or come out rather than just making it seem like once Florence learned about asexuality, everything was magically perfect and there were no more issues for her, and everyone lived happily ever after, the end. However, despite those issues, I'm very glad to see asexuality getting more representation, and am hopeful that this is a big positive step for the future.
Totally. I agree that there could have been, or maybe should have been, more 😊
It goes to show that Otis still has much to learn about other things, like asexuality. He's a good advice giver, but he's limited to topics that aren't part of his area.
God I wish I could have seen this kind of supportive interaction when I was in middle school writing cringey poetry about feeling broken and empty
I cried hysterically when I saw this episode :) I just wish that there would have been more Florence in the show! Maybe a partner, showing her romantic attraction
It took me such a long time to accept my asexuality, especially since I'm relatively young and everyone kept telling me "it'll develop, you have time" or "you just haven't met the right person yet", and yeah, I might someday develop sexual attraction, but it's looking more and more unlikely every day. Especially when dating for the first time, and being unable to supply my boyfriend with what he so clearly wanted (and breaking up because of it, it was hard thinking that it wasn't my fault. That I wasn't broken.
I want to fall in love. I like physical contact a lot. I just don't like sex. I don't see the appeal. And if someone had come and told me what Otis's mum told Florence a while ago, if there was more representation like this, it would've saved me a lot of pain . I still tear up when hearing that final statement.
I was happy we were at least a little and at last represented. I was watching the series because I'm a fan of Gillian Anderson
I came out to my friend yesterday as ace and she told me to watch this show bcos of the ace rep. And so I tried watching the show but after about 10 mins of the first episode, it was too much as I’m also sex averse. So tysm for doing this video as I’m now gonna go watch them specific scenes! ☺️
This video was great! I had the same experience, when I found out an ace character was in the show I gave it a try but couldn't get past the pilot for the same reasons, so having the exact time stamps of where to find the ace rep was so good!
I’m 18 and have gotten into my first ever relationship only a month ago. In the past I’ve known I’ve never had the urge to do anything of the sexual sort, but I always thought when the right person came along it would just click. I really really like this person romantically but I still feel uncomfortable kissing or even just cuddling too long, and I still can’t possibly imagine sex . I’m kinda panicking because they must expect something from me some day :(
If you can, it might be worth having a conversation with your partner about it. It would be better if it comes up earlier so they don't feel like they've been led on. But of course, it's 100% your decision if you want to tell someone, and never feel any pressure to say or do anything, especially something sexual. I hope that it goes well :)
Slice of Ace thank you so much, I definitely would like to work myself up to talk about it as I don’t want to be unfair to him. Thanks for the support and advice 😊
@@jade728 Anytime :)
When I was 22 I also got into my first relationships with similar feelings that you were experiencing. I was terrified that he would dump me because of it, although I didn't have to worry as he was fine with it. But I think also cause I am a very non touchy person anyway he had kind of figured out that I needed to take things really really really really slowly. So talk to your person when you feel like you can. Or text them, if you feel too nervous, like I did.
pippylunalove thanks, I’m glad I’m not the only one, he also kind of realised I’m not as into kissing and touching and that as he is so hopefully it won’t be a huge shock
At long last.....the character of Florence provides a representation of asexuality that is not negative and even repels some of the most generally accepted horrid prejudices (aces are not attractive, not interesting, have some weird illness that needs fixing, haven't met 'the one'). there is still a long way to go - but this is certainly a good start.
P.s.-- I just attempted to read the overly cutesy "Let's Talk About Love" and came away frustrated and bitter, thus inspiring my screed.
I was so happy because I didn't expected it. After the first scene of season 1, I was giving up of Othis being demisexual and thought they will never talk about it. Then in the episode, when she started to say how not intersted int sex she is, I tried not to hope. And then I was so happy when Jean bring the subject! I like it came from her and not from Othis, who is making everything about himself and just thought she asn't ready, not she was asxual, that was realistic.
Now it will be complete if they have an aro allo character in season 3 (just picture Othis trying to gave sex advice to an aro allo, as he is clearly thinking sex and love should alays be linked; that would be awesome).
I like the series I remember that I was excited when I heard the word "asexual" being told in the series "The end of the fxxxing world", but this one is even better, albeit short and on a not really important character but well it's an awesome improvement!!!
Wouldn’t it be nicer just to see representation of someone actually happy to be ace, instead of struggling with them feeling so weird and broken. I’d rather see a normalised QPR than ace overcomes struggles of being broken.
Ayyy I’ve literally just watched the episode! Great video!
Thanks!
i wish i saw this video before i forced myself to binge watch the entire first season when the ace representation was only in the second season
I tried to watch this series but found the amount of sex just far too triggering and when I found out there was ace representation I was so so worried they would totally mess it up because I know people who mean a lot to me who have watched it and I just hoped to god it wouldn’t make anything worse. Hopefully it went ok then
Freezing it that way does make sense, and if you're going to compare it to food I think in my case I'm not hungry but I'm also not bothered by other people eating or even making jokes about food. I'm just not personally hungry. It's kind of the same with romance being compared to flowers, I can't smell them that doesn't mean I don't like the concept of flowers or like looking at flowers.
i am gray ace with libido and i actually really like the show but not for the actual sex stuff. i like the idea of the show and im a fan of the characters but i get really uncomfortable during the scenes with naked people
The first scene in the series made me feel so grossed out. And then the setting was so culturally off - an American highschool in the uk - that I couldn't stand it. I don't understand from the first episode why it's rated so highly by my friends. But it's good that asexuality is getting some representation in the show. :)
Yeah, it totally looked like an American high school but everyone was British?! It bothered me profoundly 😅
@@SliceOfAce they've said it's to try and bring in a wider (American) audience but I think it's just laziness on the producers/directors parts :/
i cried during that scene ngl
I loved their description of the buffet and not feeling hungry and I think they did a wonderful job but (maybe it’s just me) the way I feel is I see the buffet, I’m not hungry but I want to feel as hungry and full as everyone else so I try to eat like them to achieve that (not trying to fit in with them but feel the same fulfillment and fullness that they feel) does anyone else feel Ike that?
I want to say "Yay! Representation!" But my bar just got higher again. Sure, Ace. But what about ARO/Ace? I'm fed up with hearing about romance and all these cute aces in YA stories where all the Ace characters get to "fall in wuuuùuuuuv" ❤💖💗🤮. I dare a writer to avoid the easy low-hanging fruit of treacle "romance" for once, and right a solid story about an aromantic ace who battles prejudice and mockery to find the perfect intense friendship. It is my dream happy ending. Aros are intensely feeling people! Excluded. AGAIN.
Sorry for the rant last night. Relatively accurate ace rep is good, romantic or aro-. 🙂 I will be watching at least 2 or 3 episodes of "Sex Education," so thanks for the suggestion. And thanks for the content!
I agree. The lack of any aro aces on tv every time there is an ace, at least no nonamorous aces... It's starting to get frustrating
Okay this is way too late, but you absolutely should read 'Loveless' by Alice Oseman. The writer herself is aroace and the story is precisely what you described and the best aroace representation that exists
@@annemoondegroen987 Had it imported nearly a year before the American edition ever came out. A lot of feels, but mostly anger & childish jealousy that Georgia got to discover her orientation at 18, not past middle age like me. I spent 50 years thinking I was srraight & just waiting for that magical attraction thing to kick in. I knew I was asexual, but I thought the A stood for ally
Is it an asexual thing to not cry at tv or movies because I have only cried at a movie once and any other asexual I’ve met have been similar
Just wondering if any other asexuals are similar
I don't cry much at films and TV, but I doubt it's a universal thing for all aces. Maybe it's more likely though?
Though, to be fair, I watched Onward (the Pixar film) the other day, and I cried quite a bit. For context, my dad died when I was young so it hit very close to home 😅
Before I watched any Sex Education, I saw David J Bradley's video where he mentioned the ace character in the show. However, between watching David's video and the series, I'd forgotten her name and thought it was actually going to be Lily the comic book girl and not Florence that told Jean about her asexuality. So I watched through the lens of Lily's comic book fantasies and her insistence that she wanted to have sex as some form of denial of her innate asexuality, in the sense of how can she not know that she is uninterested in sex when she hasn't had it. Florence doesn't feature heavily in the second series but there is going to be a third so there may be scope to develop her character more then.
to be fair to otis that was his experience that is why therapist have to leave their own stuff at the door
Interesting that so many people liked Florence and the way Sex Education represented asexual people. I found it to be tokenistic and shallow. Obviously I'm in a minority. Good that it's represented in some way - at least it was mentioned.
I'm aro-ace
I am still trying to figure it out but all these describe me.
I dont see what sex is all about. There's so much hyoe about it and i just look. I don't mind giving in a relationship but i csnt reciprocate.
I don't eben know if i make sense. Sex is weird and uncomfortable. I don't feel sexual feelings for smy of the guys i have been with. I thought there's something wrong with me. I actually think i had genophobia because 😢😢😢 i just don't know anymore.
I do want to fall in love some day but sex 👐👐 i am not interested. I literally tried to force myself to feel during some form of intimacy but things failed.
Who can i talk to? 🥺🥺
It’s kinda strange to review the representation without watching the show lol
Fair, but I did watch the episode in question, which was, from what I have heard, a self-contained story. I felt that the context of the other episodes wouldn't have changed my opinion of the ace sub plot at all 😊
i think im asexual i do like women but ive never been in love -_-
😍
its getting weird...
Never watched the show but just from this i dont like odis cause he doesnt know shit
The series is not well written plot-wise as it jumbles relationship dynamics frequently. However, its exposure of sexual dynamics within society without pandering to the audience is direly needed in this political climate of abstinence education pushers and lgbtqa+ deniers. Just a shame its not well written show as it's a bore most of its viewing.