[Vinesauce] Vinny - NES Bootlegs (Zelda LTTP, Mario World, Pokemon)
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- 00:00 Intro
00:43 The Legend of Zelda: Triforce of the Gods
33:01 Super Mario World
48:49 Pokemon Yellow
01:02:41 Outro
Vinny plays NES Bootlegs for the Nintendo Entertainment System live on Vinesauce!
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Stream date: Jan 8th, 2023
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hello Vinny how are you
can you explain to me what a sheep shaver is?,or is it the REAL thing they use to shave sheeps?
1:08 The text bouncing and going everywhere broke me lol
that had me thinking it wasn't a real bootleg and was straight up someone's troll student project
Lol it's like a windows 95 screen saver XD
Fun fact: The "Gome aver" screen in Zelda: Triforce of the Gods bootleg was taken from the intro to World of Illusion - Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for the Sega Genesis.
Seeing that random saber in a cup and curtain background unlocked a long buried memory. Enjoy the obscure fact!
Very interesting!
I scrolled down here into the comments just now to check whether anyone else had realized that - did enough of a double-take watching the video that I had to go and verify with the intro to that game. Bizarre place to have stolen that frame from, and it felt *weird* to see it like this.
57:07 If I'm not mistaken, this is a classic quirk of Gen 1 AI. Sand-Attack is a Ground-type move, so Eevee will see that it's "super effective" against Pikachu despite not doing any damage and will simply just spam it until Pikachu's accuracy is minimized.
Challenge runners frequently make use of this in actual Pokemon RBY against Elite 4 members by having a Pokemon weak to Psychic moves out against an opposing Pokemon that knows Agility or Rest, which both are Psychic-type moves, which the AI will spam over and over again giving the player ample time to sweep them with zero effort.
Gen 1 was held together by duct tape and this bootleg evidently used the leftover tape from the roll lmao. Sadly there was none left to hold Scarlet/Violet together of course
Most AI in gen1 attack randomly
Its gym leaders and rival battles that break the mold and always use super effective attacks just wanted to clear that up incase anyone got confused
Also an AI can prioritise switching pokemon a trait only held by jugglers and agatha or using and item wich they will always use if either health is low enough or statused brock has 5 full heals for each of his pokemon and will prioritize using those over everything else if statused
@@lordperson5762 You're pretty close, but I'd like to note that there's a good few regular trainer classes that use "Good Ai" such as Sailors, Burglars, and Cooltrainers. Additionally it's worth noting that while in Red and Blue all of the Gym Leaders other then Brock use Good AI, In Yellow: Surge, Sabrina, and Blaine don't have Good AI for some reason.
Finally it's worth pointing out that in the Elite 4 of all three games Agatha and Bruno don't have good AI for some reason
Y'know, shaky quality aside, these are my favorite types of bootlegs. There's a lot of them that were made back then where they'd take an existing game, swap one of the sprites for a popular character and call it a day, but these devs actually put the effort in to bring wholly original versions of newer games to dated hardware without official dev kits and knowledge, probably allowing tons of kids who wouldn't have been able to play LTTP, Mario World, Pokemon, etc. otherwise to experience them in some form.
39:35 The developers probably thought replicating the athletic theme was too hard so they were like, "Fuck it, just use the title theme."
That Pokemon was actually really impressive for a bootleg. It’s almost like a Pokemon game on NES would actually work
I remember as a kid after seeing Pokemon Stadium and Colosseum I always wondered why they didn't just make Pokemon games for console. Like I know now it's because you could only do trading and stuff on handheld, but in my head since I never had anyone to play with they were strictly singleplayer games, lol
You mean a game series on 8 bit handhelds with 4 buttons and a D-pad would translate well to an 8 bit console with 4 buttons and a D-pad?
Preposterous!
@@ExaltedUriel You could trade Pokémon from Colosseum and XD to any of the GBA games through a GB/GBA player though. You just had to finish the story on the GC games first to be able to. There’s effectively nothing that stopped them from implementing a system that would read save data from a second/a friends Game cube memory card to trade Pokémon like that.
@@ExaltedUriel All of that could have been done on every Nintendo console released since the existence of Pokemon.
The real reason there were never any home console Pokemon games is because Game Freak wanted to use weak hardware as an excuse to hide their overall incompetence and miserly budgeting.
@@alfo2804 it's almost as if they made them handheld games because the name of the game is POCKET monsters
The fact that improvement hacks are available for all these that significantly improve how they play (especially Super Mario World NES) is really cool. They did a similar thing with Somari where they fixed up the physics some, turned it back into Sonic, and now you have a surprisingly decent Sonic 1 NES port. All of these are pretty OK for bootleg games, but the fan hacks make them way more playable. There was also "Donkey Kong Country 4" on NES which is basically a sorta-DKC1 to NES port by I think the same guys as one of these games.
Also, the Super Mario World NES game shown in the video is, as said, the "Volume 1" version. It's a bit hard to get your hands on the true full version, but it has a level select as soon as you press to enter the game, since the game had no save feature and it's pretty reasonably long. Super Mario World on NES is especially interesting since it was once said by Nintendo staff that Yoshi wasn't possible on NES, but the bootleggers proved them wrong.
Probably my favourite of these hacks to bootlegs was Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Though to be fair, most of that's from the original bootleg itself being a work of art converting FF7 into an NES game.
Everyone always drags up that statement from the Mario team saying that Yoshi couldn't be done on the NES, and nobody seems to understand what they meant.
They said that _they_ couldn't figure it out, but people take that to mean that they claimed it was objectively impossible to achieve.
If anything, Yoshi was probably scrapped because they just didn't have the concept down yet. Most things that get scrapped from games are done so for design reasons.
@@alfo2804 source on that one? Because literally every developer interview regarding that that I've read have all said that Yoshi was actually impossible to implement on NES.
@@vxcvxmcrposfdsdfulpdfg What did they say? In *exact* wording.
where did you find the improved hacks?
Vinny failing to see the old man as he truly is was hilarious
Me too... I still don't see it.
I'm almost upset because it seems so obvious...
@@flashmozzg the old man? He's laying on his back, his head on the right. same as in the non bootlegs
@@flametitan100 One the right? Wut? I don't see it at all, there is no head on the right, he is vertical. I know the SNES sprite, it looks nothing like what vinny was looking at.
@@flashmozzg SNES Sprite? We're talking about a Gameboy game in pokemon.
I'll concede I might be thinking of the GBA remakes though. I do know one of them has him laying down on his back
Imagine if Vinny and Joel swapped channels for one day, gaslit the audience, then swapped right back the next day and denied it ever happened.
That's just what all the other vinesauce channels are
Joel is Vinny's alter ego and Vinny is Joel's alter ego
That sounds like something Jerma would orchestrate.
They have done that before if I remember correctly.
No
One of my friends has a physical copy of Pokémon Yellow for the NES. Somehow it even has a battery and it can save your progress
extremely impressive, most bootlegs of even the real game dont
like zelda? and every other game that saves data made before gamecube?
@@Burger_pants it's rare for bootlegs of battery-save games
@@Burger_pantsIt was EXTREMELY rare for bootleggers to implement save batteries since they usually want to cut costs as much as possible
06:30 "Champions of Self Suck"
Vinny needs to stop saying what he reads at the same time lol
Vinny played the mario bootleg, but his neighbors werent morbing nextdoor while he was playing so he missed out on the quinessential experience
Fuokin Puossi RIP!
When that happened?
Link plz!
@@deadplissJoel stream.
the crushing defeat of getting a gome oven in your favorite video game
1:02:07 This is Vinny's equivalent of Chris Pratt's "I played Mario in the Arcades stomping on koopas."
Stomping ...
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Koopas
5:20
I'm pleasantly surprised at how good they translated the _Symphonie №9 en Mi mineur, Op. 95 du Nouveau Monde: Allegro con fuoco_ into the NES sound chipset.
32:34 I was not aware of the Game Over screen being the intro from World of Illusion. It is ironic, as World of Illusion is not a popular title among MD owners in Southeast Asia and Japan.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that caught that, it hit me as soon as I saw the curtains. What an odd game to lift a screen from.
"I'm loading something called 'Sheep Shaver'" is probably the scariest outro to a video I've ever heard.
It's a Mac system 7 - os9 emulator
That Zelda game over screen was lifted from World of Illusion for the Sega Mega Drive. The very first thing you'll see when you boot that game up is that sword and those curtains.
i love the idea of the most egregious thing vinny will do this year is not being able to recognize an old man sprite in a bootleg pokemon game
Vinny, I have been a fan for almost 10 years. I found your videos while I was in highschool, and now I am married and have two kids. I remember very fondly the first video I saw, which is the Sesame Street corruptions, and your hilarious content has kept me going through some very hard times (particularly The Fantastic Game and the egglike genre). I reference jokes from Vinesauce constantly and I even introduced my wife to your channel, which we now watch together at dinner time with the kids. To say you have been a big influence in my life would be an understatement. That's why it saddened me so much when I saw you talk bad about Lester the Unlikely. I almost could not believe it at first, so I replayed the part over and over, and my anger and disappointment grew each time. I am so distraught right now, but there are some lines that cannot be crossed. You are dead to me.
You sure accomplished a lot, Frc-san...
I have finished high school back in 2012 (something over ten years ago as well) and I have never had a girlfriend, and probably won't have kids any time soon.
How did you manage to take this path so quickly?
The first thing I notice is the text boxes flopping all over the place and I’m already laughing. This is going to be good
That Pokemon yellow bootleg is actually really cool
Seems less like a bootleg and more like a fan game
the biblically accurate sun in mario world
35:30 Tbh I wanna watch Vinny feed ducks again. Like I want it to be a regular thing. Duck stream.
Oh my god it's that weird ass sun logo thing.
I've always had that thing in the back of my head for some reason...
Honestly with some extra work these bootlegs could be real good games. The demake community is a great one!
I watched this on stream but these bootlegs were too funny, I had to rewatch on YT 😂
One of the days Vinny will play Super Mario Flash.
he did it already i think
imagine how good the official ones can be
"but I'm glad they got the goatse store" is not something I expected to hear today. I'll never look at ALTTP the same way again
funny green mushroom vinny vinesauce guy hahaha
0:45 I honestly thought that was Gladion's theme for a moment.
I hope Vinny plays the FFVII NES demake one of these days.
Well, it deserves its own segment, as it is legitimately good
I wonder if he'll suffer with the Chrono Trigger bootleg sometime. The one where you fight Pokemon for some reason.
Well make a pack and send it to him
@@SmaManhe did already.
oh boy vinny
I think link to the past is legitimately fun on NES. All of these are varying levels of decent.
If the music and sprites were a little bit better, it would pass as original
A decent if likely scaled-down port would probably be possible if done by someone with enough technical knowledge and desire to do it right as showcased by modern SMB hacks implementing Yoshi and doing other things Miyamoto's team deemed impossible back in the day
That link to the past bootleg is actually decent for a bootleg from what I can tell. By far not the worst bootleg i've seen.
I love how Vinny laughs incredulously at "I just found a magical staff in a random cave!" as if that isn't 2D Zelda's entire modus operandi.
1:27 that seal should have remainded...for all time
it's rare to see someone using an uncle death profile. a man of culture
perfect.
that was a nice little intro
That title music for the Zelda bootleg sounds like an old man reminiscing of when he was young.
I'll be honest, I am liking the 'NES port' of these games. Especially the Pokemon Yellow one, though its painful to play through I admit
58:02 I am referring to this version, the prior pokemon yellow vinny played looked fine and I'd have fun playing that
Okay tbh that New World Order chiptune cover goes way harder than it needed to.
From what little I know about the Yellow bootleg, it's actually pretty cool for a bootleg. I mean, it even has post-game content with some of the Gen 3 legendary Pokémon (I know for a fact Latias/Latios are there). Considering many bootleg games don't even go to the end, that's a lot of effort that they didn't need to put in. I also really like how they made completely different maps for the region, gives it its own identity.
Honestly, I'd unironically play it (I already have the fan-translated ROM). I'd also wanna attempt remaking the bootleg myself, but idk if I'll bother or not since, well, the bootleg exists and can be played on more things than anything made in RPG Maker can. Lol.
Someone should go full circle and actually port the game into the FireRed engine. It would legitimately be like the original (non-bootleg) game, but with enough changes to keep it fresh for veteran players.
@@Hijiri_MIRACHION True, that'd also be really damn cool! A shame I have no idea how to do ROM hacks, cause I'd totally do that if I could.
That being said, I think some of the charm comes from the NES graphics n' stuff, so if it were up to me I'd try to use the tiles used in the bootleg. Lol.
Could just make it into a pokemon crystal hack since the tools and disasm for that game is extremely easy to use and has all the kanto stuff in it already anyways.
@@LuigiXHero That would mostly make sense, both the NES and the GBC have similar graphical capabilities, the overworld graphics are easily portable to the GBC, the Battle graphics (except the players back sprite, which should be easily portable anyway as it's already been downgraded), the music from the translation are already from RBY/GSC (and custom music is possible in these games, if one is to use the Hoenn music from the original), etc. There are two things I'd be concerned with: How do you replicate the overworld sprites in a game who's NPC sprites are only half the size, and what to do about Johto?
@@Hijiri_MIRACHION well with the disasm you could make a perfect remake if you wanted the code is fully editable. And well just don't bother with johto can just toss it.
16:14 *Insert Oasis joke here.*
This is the most painfully discordant game music I have ever heard. My ears feel like they're separated by 50 psi, my teeth feel like I bit down on a marble, and my eyes feel like I've been staring into a hairdryer.
🎶Fauxrillaz ~ Bootleg In A Bag🎶
57:26 Pokemon Beanlock - If you are defeated in game, you have to fill your PC with beans.
That LTTP bootleg just decides whatever music to play when it feels like it
I'M THE LTTP BOOTLEG, I DO WHAT I WANT
Funny thing about the Mario World Demake, you can access any level right away
Why is the intro theme of Chinese Legend Of Zelda such a bop
The Mario bootleg got something Nintendo couldn't: Yoshi working on the nes
0:43 Damn I didn't know Gladion from Pokemon Sun/Moon was a Legendary Zelda.
That Pokémon one looks better than most legitimate games. The houses feel like.. Proper houses, the environment design is more interesting as well.
Smb3 mario spin jumping makes my tummy feel weird
1 actual second into this video…you can see it’s cursed!😂😂
Waixing computer science and co. are a really impressive team of bootleggers for its time. i always wonder if the people who worked on these bootlegs got work in the industry later on in life. despite the mediocre quality of most of their games i think it was a team of genuinely talented people.
I believe some members of it's development team went onto work for some smaller/indie studios.
The truly messed up thing is that these all work.
The bouncing intro text for Zelda got me good. "THAT SEAL SHOULD HAVE REMAINDED"
The theme from Hyrule Castle was blowing my mind because I actually listened to Dvorak's New World Symphony earlier this month. It's very common for bootlegs to just employ midis of random classical music. The game seemed like it didn't tie any particular track to any screen and would instead randomize between the tracks whenever a new screen calls for it.
0:33:28 - _Let's check it out_
0:36:00
0:43:59 - Mario confidence.
1:00:11 - Old man confusion.
I feel like that NES Mario World music is missing a random yelling of "Grand dad" at the end
5:20 oh, that's the new world symphony, in a chinese zelda homebrew
For some reason when vinny said magical staff I immediately thought of Luigi's magic balloon.
Real talk the smw nes hack existing is amazing
This reminds me of a weird Mobile MMO called Graal Online. 100% used and ripped sprites from A Link to the Past.
5:21 ... Is that the third movement of "From the New World?"
That fort music was going so well and then the middle part notes get fucked so bad.
Damn spinyot got pwnd by that comment about the saber on the original tloz on nes
"Some Oven"
I see binyot’s playing the bootlegs
Yes Vinny is tapping into the Chinese NES bootleg universe. He should check out FF7 on the NES. It's actually not that bad for what it is.
24:10 I wish people would stop thinking Zelda games are RPGs. The basic requirement of an RPG is character stats (attack, defense, agility, etc.) with the ability to level up the characters. Zelda games don't have that aside from obtaining items that make Link more powerful or durable, but that doesn't count. There needs to be an actual stats screen with numbers.
33:52 NES Mario World's music's soundfont for the first level's music kind of sounds like Pac-Man.
Has vin played the nes final fantasy 7 bootleg?
Also, the Allie Rx nostalgia on pokemon yellow
It's not a bootleg, is it? I thought it was a romhack or homebrew?
@@alfo2804 pretty sure it's a bootleg
Smellda: Legend of potato.
ohgod i know this zelda bootleg. i know a lper who did a 'game race' of it with someone where he was playing the bootleg and the other person was playing the real version
ohmygod 'that seal should have remainded'
OH THE COMPANY that made the zelda bootleg has also made a resident evil 1 nes bootleg that is oddly faithful
Has Vinny already played the FF7 NES demake? If not that should be top priority.
I want to see this too, because this is the first I've even heard of it.
I mean, I don't _actually_ want to _see_ it any time soon because I never played the original game myself and would rather experience it with fresh eyes when the time finally comes, but... you know.
today binyot plays Monday stream сегодня бинёт играет в понедельник стрим
32:44 - this screen was stolen from the opening credits of _Mickey and Donald's World of Illusion_ on the Mega Drive!
28:26 Vinny I have played this you have to get as close as possible and literally spend over 5 minutes hitting them to defeat them, there's no feedback for attacking that's why it seemed like you weren't doing any damage.
Champions of Self-Suck got me
shoutouts to thumbnail maker using the original carts and not just the repros
35:20 game oven
whats the link where joel play smw nes the same one that vinny play
GRAND DAD
Champions of Selfsuck
You know you’ve seen too many hacks when you recognize the Hummer team logo…
I think Vinny should play the improved version of smw
I hope vinny dosen't ever stop livestreaming playing video games, he's one of the few video game youtubers from back in the day that still make gaming content
uhhh vin it's called autofellatio
As a Chinese person these always hurt my brain to watch
bootleg LTTP OST appears to piss off birds. Proof? My bird had a tantrum the entire time it was playing and started singing once it was over.
I can't shake the feeling that my phone is ringing :V
Vinny pls finish the Pokemon Yellow NES
Game Boys and Cards were banned at my school. We used to hide in the bushes on the playground and trade/battle. I was the only kid with a Link Cable and kids would borrow it all the time.
I'm pretty sure that Pokémon yellow is using some FRLG sprites...
How does that old man sprite look like a slowpoke? can ADW draw that?
The painful irony that I have an upcoming root canal in 3 days
Godspeed soldier.
is that gladions theme .. ?
That's what children played in South America/Eastern Europe.
Yep, and we loved it.
Yep, I still have my old NES bootleg with bootleg games
I played on Pegasus, what about you?
@@anonymousonion551
A Dynavision III