For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
In my opinion, the 220 is better because it gives you more money and more work by away, while the e2 is for passenger experience. Now that you don't like the e195 because somebody is..... is their problem.
However A220 is way more expensive to be produced compared to E2 due the large use of composite materials in the fuselage, the airlines has a lot of E1 pilots, which reduces drastically the costs with retraining, besides that 195E2 range is about 5k km, more than ideal for international flights between all european countries and some parts of Asia and Africa, E2 is a bit more efficient too.
In the current covid 19 climate smaller jets are in demand. The jets KLM has chosen are just right for today’s market. Fewer people are allowed to fly so the smaller jets make sense.
both the 737 and A320 have far out grown the original sub-transcons, 1500-2500 mi range. Meaning operating aircraft capable of 4000mi range, even when not carrying full fuel, means having a lot of dead weight for 2-3 hr flights
Interesting point. There’s always this push for more, bigger, longer range. At some point they do seem to defeat the purpose of small regional jets. Seems like with today’s travel woes smaller is the new bigger.
This not about a 'trend'. Cityhopper has always flown small aircraft, being a short haul operator. They aren't used by the regular KLM operations so there isn't a shift going on within KLM or similar.
Embraer work hard doing researches to create the the best planes, to civil aviation and militar aviation. The crew is made by a corp of engeneers of Brasilian Aeronáutic Tecnocologic Institute! Embraer rules!!
What a reach. The A220 has its disadvantages, like its weight. The E2 is better for short flights. A220 is better for mainline, even though the 195-E2 can fly more than 2 hours with efficiency too. I'd say the E195-E2 is more versitile. I hate this A220 overhype. It is selling that much because Airbus is selling it cheap, the A320neo do whatever the A220 does, but better, with less cask. Airbus itself said the CSeries wasn't that great but after buying the project, boom, the CSeries suddenlly is the best thing on earth. Give me a break... I know A220 looks really neat and is very comfy, but Embraer did an amazing job with the E2, it's technically a clean sheet plane in comparison to the E1. The E2 and the A220 even share the same engine, which is basically the main factor responsible for their efficiency.
@@ABCantonese hahaha very funny... See, I'm not saying the A220 is a bad product, what bothered me was the comparison you made in your first post which is very much far from the truth (the sputinik and avro comparison).
Such a shame they didn't go with the A220. Having travelled on both the A220 and the E-Jet (admittedly the previous version) the terrible placement of the windows in many of the rows resulting from the unusually lengthy amount of fuselage between them does not make for a pleasant experience if you chose a window seat to actually look out of the window!
Not neccesarily a shame, if you notice airfrance-klm are split when it comes to airbus and boeing, airfrance has more airbusses than boeings and klm has more boeings than airbusses. And it was already obvious that af would go with the a220, so therefore klm would take the e-jets. Also because they already had e-jets.
This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The non alignment with the windows has to do with the quantity of seats that the air carriers decide to fit into the total space available in the cabin.
@@robertofernandes4375As you stated, the seat alignment has much to do with the airlines specifications. I have flown on both aircraft types on numerous occasions so my comment was based on personal experience. With the A220 and its large closely spaced windows, it is usual to find yourself with either an acceptably placed window, or a choice of two with not too much wall between them. However, with the Embraer and it's very widely spaced windows, you often find yourself with a wall rather than a window, and the need to lean quite far forward, or look back over your shoulder to see out. This has everything to do with the manufacturer.
The problem that you stated has nothing to do with the aircraft itself. Not to mention that you can not compare the older family with the A220, since the E2 were made to compete with the A220, not the E1. The E2 has a lot more advantages for the passengers, such as way wider windows, better seats, low noise levels, and the killing feature 2+2 configuration.
I Think KLM Cityhooper has decided for a quantum leap on the environmental impact of their fleet while keeping the passenger confort white the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration. That configuration is umbeatable for regional flight.
@@TysonIke For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
Robson Bombonatti the best configuration would be the 1-2 on the Erj-145. Also I like the a220 more than the E-jet family as the a220 has larger windows and wider seats.
O E2 é melhor em diversos aspectos: Para a companhia aérea: Menor consumo de combustível (fator crucial); Para o passageiro: Mais conforto, menos sujeito a turbulências e menor ruído; Do ponto-de-vista do piloto: O E2, com seus touch, são o top em tecnologia, fazem os outros concorrentes parecerem velhos aviões com painéis analógicos e alavancas.
@@josiaswattrelos Europeus vão sempre querer o mais sustentavel e economico. Alem disso o mais silencioso... Junte as 3 caracteristicas num avião e vc tem o E2 da Embraer!!! Parabéns Embraer pelo belíssimo trabalho!!! Orgulho merecido!!
@@josiaswattrelos Tem um fator que influenciou negativamente, o alcance. Já que as aeronaves E2 estaria restrito somente em atender a aviação regional, o A220 realiza vôos de médio alcance, detém autonomia 1000KM a mais que o E195-E2, e as companhias aérea, principalmente norte Americana se interessaram pelo aspecto do alcance, correspondente com o seu modelo de proposta.
@@lucasgalvao4411 Em verdade, esta foi a sacada da Embraer, pois voo de longo alcance é papel de outra categoria (mesmo assim, o E190 ocupou uma linha de mais de 1000Km Sta Helena / Johannesburgo desbancando a Airbus e Boeing). Ou seja, seria inútil priorizar mais autonomia sacrificando outros parâmetros. Um exemplo, à partir de Oslo, a Noruega consegue atender todos os países vizinhos (Reino Unido, Finlândia, Alemanha, Polônia...) com melhor performance e economia. Se não fosse superior, o lobby e o poder da Airbus já teria engolido esse nisso facilmente.
Can we please stop calling it the "Embraer E195E2"? Two E's in the model number is overkill, especially with the manufacturer name in front, almost three E's. Just "195E2" sounds so much better, that is what it should be called. "Embraer 195E2" or just "195E2" Please forward this comment to Embraer executives...
For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
The a220 is a better plane in my opinion. The a220 is more efficient and it has a taller and larger cargo hold so it can turn around faster. The they are only getting the E190E2 because of fleet commonality.
I'd say for Cityhopper, the E2 would be better as it still profitable on lower demand routes (that was one of the main reasons why the original E-Jet was very popular), besides, the A220 is more of a short haul (i.e 737 MAX 7/8 and A320) whereas the E2 is more regional (A319, CRJ and maybe even the Dash 7 and ATR-72 for the smaller -175). But it mostly comes down airline choice I'd say
doabarrellroll 69 the main reason for getting the E2 is the fact that they have less than 50 cityHopper planes and they are all Embraer E170 or E190 planes
Both planes share the same engine, which is basically the main factor responsible for their efficiency. I really think you are overestimating the A220, like the intire internet, just because the plane looks good...
Fabrício 94 the a220 has a more efficient airframe and better wings. The a220 also can turn around faster and airport staff like it more. The a220 is also cheaper for many airlines as it is built in the northern hemisphere. Also the a220 is bigger so it gets more passengers at a similar amount of fuel.
@@TysonIke, both versions of the A220 are heavier than the E195-E2 and they share the same engine. Again, you are reaching. As for their capacity, it really depends on the airline configuration. KLM cityhopper's seats 132 passengers and Air Canada's A220-300 seats 137, but it's a heavier plane. The E2 costs less than the A220. The fact that the A220 is built in the northern hemisphere has nothing to do with its price lol. Airbus is losing money with the A220 project.
Embraer fan here, love seeing it in KLM attire
For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
No one likes the middle row!
That's right
In my opinion, the 220 is better because it gives you more money and more work by away, while the e2 is for passenger experience. Now that you don't like the e195 because somebody is..... is their problem.
@@sergiolaurencio7534 in the end, the passenger is the one who decide to buy a ticket. Specially for regional fligths, confort counts a lot.
The Embraer E-Jet E2 jets are a good fit for flights operations like KLM Cityhopper where flights are under 2 hours in duration.
That is one fine looking plane..
Perfect plane for around schiphol area I live there. So silent they are. No noise.
The Embrear E 190 and E 195 are quite comfortable for sort haul flights 3 hrs and less.
Both E2-195 & A220-300 are ultra efficient aircrafts
on the other hand, for the passenger point of view the E2-195 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable.
However A220 is way more expensive to be produced compared to E2 due the large use of composite materials in the fuselage, the airlines has a lot of E1 pilots, which reduces drastically the costs with retraining, besides that 195E2 range is about 5k km, more than ideal for international flights between all european countries and some parts of Asia and Africa, E2 is a bit more efficient too.
@@DiscoLocalA That depends. I will select the E2. I love Em
@@DiscoLocalA is basically a new DC-9 with 2-3 configuration also.
Those engines are massive it's like they put GE90s on a 787
welcome to the new generation of commercial aircraft.
Surprise, they are not GE90. Is the same model of the a330
I mean a220
Do you know this is the most silent plane. I don't understand why people don't like this plane
Good looking Aircraft!
Looks like an awesome aircraft - the wing & engine combo look amazing!!! Looking forward to flying on one...
you would love it, no 2-3 comfuguration
Wow, look that wings!
E2 the best
E-2 amazing
Que belleza de avión!!
I like both of them for their own reasons. The E2 for the engine and wing design and for the a220 the window size and engines
They use the same PW GTF engines...
@@Roshevik I know, but both aircraft look good with it
@@martingodske3301 but the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable for regional flights
embraer 195 E2 is the best aircraft in its class!
2-2 configuration, yes it is.
It's absolutely fantastic airplane with the new engines and aerodinamic improvements. Great airline is KLM 👍🏻🇳🇱
Great job, amazing review.
Embraer ist klein, aber fein! 👍
É grande e legal.!!
EMBRAER além das expectativas 😁👍
Great. Nice aircraft.
In the current covid 19 climate smaller jets are in demand. The jets KLM has chosen are just right for today’s market. Fewer people are allowed to fly so the smaller jets make sense.
these wings are beautiful
Oh wow...baby 757. Nice
proud of Embraer Brazil
both the 737 and A320 have far out grown the original sub-transcons, 1500-2500 mi range. Meaning operating aircraft capable of 4000mi range, even when not carrying full fuel, means having a lot of dead weight for 2-3 hr flights
Interesting point. There’s always this push for more, bigger, longer range. At some point they do seem to defeat the purpose of small regional jets. Seems like with today’s travel woes smaller is the new bigger.
I like how KLM goes for 787 & E2
while AF goes for A350 & A220 (all lovely new aircrafts)
Vaaai Brasil !!! Voooa Embraer!!!!
This not about a 'trend'. Cityhopper has always flown small aircraft, being a short haul operator. They aren't used by the regular KLM operations so there isn't a shift going on within KLM or similar.
More 737 operations will be taken over by KLM cityhopper’s embreaers...
In my opinion, the KLM livery is one of the most beautiful in the world!
They picked a good plane
perfect plane !!!!❕👐🙌🏼👏🏻
Embraer work hard doing researches to create the the best planes, to civil aviation and militar aviation.
The crew is made by a corp of engeneers of Brasilian Aeronáutic Tecnocologic Institute!
Embraer rules!!
KLM has made a good decision plus they should look at the A220 to add to the fleet.
For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable.
Having both would make zero sense
pilots love to fly these Embraer E2
@@ethansaviation2672 Well, there is a airline in India that actually will buy both
The CSeries is to EMBRAER what the Sputnik is to the Avro Arrow, and ironically, Canadian. I guess you can call Airbus the Soviet Union in this case.
Wait what ? The Sputnik was a satellite, whereas the Arrow a jet fighter, those where and are not comparable
@@doabarrellroll69 My point is that one overshadowed the other. The C-Series as A220 totally overshadowed the Embraer jet.
What a reach. The A220 has its disadvantages, like its weight. The E2 is better for short flights. A220 is better for mainline, even though the 195-E2 can fly more than 2 hours with efficiency too. I'd say the E195-E2 is more versitile. I hate this A220 overhype. It is selling that much because Airbus is selling it cheap, the A320neo do whatever the A220 does, but better, with less cask. Airbus itself said the CSeries wasn't that great but after buying the project, boom, the CSeries suddenlly is the best thing on earth. Give me a break... I know A220 looks really neat and is very comfy, but Embraer did an amazing job with the E2, it's technically a clean sheet plane in comparison to the E1. The E2 and the A220 even share the same engine, which is basically the main factor responsible for their efficiency.
@@fabricio1803 Well yeah, exactly, there is an A220 overhype, hence it is overshadowing the E2.
@@ABCantonese hahaha very funny... See, I'm not saying the A220 is a bad product, what bothered me was the comparison you made in your first post which is very much far from the truth (the sputinik and avro comparison).
Such a shame they didn't go with the A220. Having travelled on both the A220 and the E-Jet (admittedly the previous version) the terrible placement of the windows in many of the rows resulting from the unusually lengthy amount of fuselage between them does not make for a pleasant experience if you chose a window seat to actually look out of the window!
Not neccesarily a shame, if you notice airfrance-klm are split when it comes to airbus and boeing, airfrance has more airbusses than boeings and klm has more boeings than airbusses. And it was already obvious that af would go with the a220, so therefore klm would take the e-jets. Also because they already had e-jets.
This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The non alignment with the windows has to do with the quantity of seats that the air carriers decide to fit into the total space available in the cabin.
@@robertofernandes4375As you stated, the seat alignment has much to do with the airlines specifications. I have flown on both aircraft types on numerous occasions so my comment was based on personal experience. With the A220 and its large closely spaced windows, it is usual to find yourself with either an acceptably placed window, or a choice of two with not too much wall between them. However, with the Embraer and it's very widely spaced windows, you often find yourself with a wall rather than a window, and the need to lean quite far forward, or look back over your shoulder to see out. This has everything to do with the manufacturer.
The problem that you stated has nothing to do with the aircraft itself. Not to mention that you can not compare the older family with the A220, since the E2 were made to compete with the A220, not the E1. The E2 has a lot more advantages for the passengers, such as way wider windows, better seats, low noise levels, and the killing feature 2+2 configuration.
Dear friend.... The above mentioned window alignment is down to the air carrier and absolutely NOT to the manufacturer. What a strange comment!
They only got the embraer because their cityHopper brand only flys Embraer planes.
It used to be Fokker
Joey van Renesse today it’s only embraer though
@@TysonIke Indeed. That's why I said that Fokker *used* to be their only brand.
I Think KLM Cityhooper has decided for a quantum leap on the environmental impact of their fleet while keeping the passenger confort white the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration. That configuration is umbeatable for regional flight.
@@bombonattir for 4 or 5 hours flight time is much better 737 max is so uncomfortable narrow seats
Nobody like to seat on the meddle seat!!
It looks like a baby 777.
So similar to C series.. really comes down to getting best deal on order..
It’s because KLM cityHopper only has Embraer planes. They currently fly 17 E170 planes, 29 E190 planes, and 1 E190E2
@@TysonIke For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
Robson Bombonatti the best configuration would be the 1-2 on the Erj-145. Also I like the a220 more than the E-jet family as the a220 has larger windows and wider seats.
@@TysonIke The new E2 has really wide windows too, and even more space due to the 2+2 configuration.
ifp stop motions it has narrower seats though
É um avião muito bom , espero que decole mesmo sem a Boing ... O A 220 parece ser melhor , mas é muito mais caro ...
Definir como melhor é um aspecto consideravelmente relativo.
O E2 é melhor em diversos aspectos:
Para a companhia aérea: Menor consumo de combustível (fator crucial);
Para o passageiro: Mais conforto, menos sujeito a turbulências e menor ruído;
Do ponto-de-vista do piloto: O E2, com seus touch, são o top em tecnologia, fazem os outros concorrentes parecerem velhos aviões com painéis analógicos e alavancas.
@@josiaswattrelos Europeus vão sempre querer o mais sustentavel e economico. Alem disso o mais silencioso... Junte as 3 caracteristicas num avião e vc tem o E2 da Embraer!!! Parabéns Embraer pelo belíssimo trabalho!!! Orgulho merecido!!
@@josiaswattrelos Tem um fator que influenciou negativamente, o alcance. Já que as aeronaves E2 estaria restrito somente em atender a aviação regional, o A220 realiza vôos de médio alcance, detém autonomia 1000KM a mais que o E195-E2, e as companhias aérea, principalmente norte Americana se interessaram pelo aspecto do alcance, correspondente com o seu modelo de proposta.
@@lucasgalvao4411 Em verdade, esta foi a sacada da Embraer, pois voo de longo alcance é papel de outra categoria (mesmo assim, o E190 ocupou uma linha de mais de 1000Km Sta Helena / Johannesburgo desbancando a Airbus e Boeing). Ou seja, seria inútil priorizar mais autonomia sacrificando outros parâmetros.
Um exemplo, à partir de Oslo, a Noruega consegue atender todos os países vizinhos (Reino Unido, Finlândia, Alemanha, Polônia...) com melhor performance e economia.
Se não fosse superior, o lobby e o poder da Airbus já teria engolido esse nisso facilmente.
Klm maakt Chemtraiils.
No is great for KLM and Embrayer
Frankly my friend I don’t give a F .. what they fly.
Boeing's jealous fan Cough cough
@@luizhenriquegarcia3184 é a Indústria Aeronáutica Brasileira já incomodando muita gente
Can we please stop calling it the "Embraer E195E2"? Two E's in the model number is overkill, especially with the manufacturer name in front, almost three E's. Just "195E2" sounds so much better, that is what it should be called. "Embraer 195E2" or just "195E2"
Please forward this comment to Embraer executives...
it is called E195E2. I see no reason for people to stop calling it that way. It means Embraer 195 E-jet 2
In Brasil is E295.
@@sergiodelaorden Não é não
@@ifpstopmotions9720 Se vc der uma olhada no FR24, nos E2 da Azul, verá que eles usam E295 para diferenciar dos E-195. Apenas uma observação.
@@sergiodelaorden esse é o código icao, não é o nome do avião e não é só no brasil.
A220/C Series all the way!
For the passenger point of view the E2's 2 X 2 seats configuration is unbeatable. Congratulations for KLM Cityhopper for keeping the environment and its passengers coming first.
NO! E2 Is better!
AIRBUS A-220 200 & 300'is for more better beautiful too
no
hmm no
No
No
Wrong
The a220 is a better plane in my opinion. The a220 is more efficient and it has a taller and larger cargo hold so it can turn around faster. The they are only getting the E190E2 because of fleet commonality.
I'd say for Cityhopper, the E2 would be better as it still profitable on lower demand routes (that was one of the main reasons why the original E-Jet was very popular), besides, the A220 is more of a short haul (i.e 737 MAX 7/8 and A320) whereas the E2 is more regional (A319, CRJ and maybe even the Dash 7 and ATR-72 for the smaller -175). But it mostly comes down airline choice I'd say
doabarrellroll 69 the main reason for getting the E2 is the fact that they have less than 50 cityHopper planes and they are all Embraer E170 or E190 planes
Both planes share the same engine, which is basically the main factor responsible for their efficiency. I really think you are overestimating the A220, like the intire internet, just because the plane looks good...
Fabrício 94 the a220 has a more efficient airframe and better wings. The a220 also can turn around faster and airport staff like it more. The a220 is also cheaper for many airlines as it is built in the northern hemisphere. Also the a220 is bigger so it gets more passengers at a similar amount of fuel.
@@TysonIke, both versions of the A220 are heavier than the E195-E2 and they share the same engine. Again, you are reaching. As for their capacity, it really depends on the airline configuration. KLM cityhopper's seats 132 passengers and Air Canada's A220-300 seats 137, but it's a heavier plane. The E2 costs less than the A220. The fact that the A220 is built in the northern hemisphere has nothing to do with its price lol. Airbus is losing money with the A220 project.