Adam, three things come to mind from my past with one of these machines. First I would suggest you change your cutting edge approach angle as it relates to the work. You have an angle on your toolbit like it was a lathe tool. If you grind it more like a planer tool leaving that tapered rake out of it. Make your bit square with only about 2 degrees clearance under the cutting edge. Put 3-4 under the tip and about 8 on the top. Maintain a square profile without that raked taper.. That will keep the impact on start of cut more linear with the ram and avoid the desire to shift the clapper box to the side. Second... back the day we mounted a glass reservoir drip oiler on the ram and plumbed a soft copper tube over the cutting bit shank right where you keep dripping oil. Set it so it drips about once every 10 seconds or so... We used to use heavy black thread cutting oil in it like you would use for threading gas pipe. The oil is important when hogging to prevent chip weld on the cutting edge. On big projects we would take a gob of moly grease and mix it in the cutting oil. Third. Since you don't have a tool lift actuator on the clapper box the tool pivot pin takes a bit of a beating. You'll want to take a look and do what you can to eliminate any play from the clapper and pin. The more rigid you can get that fit the better your surface finish will be. hope that helps. ~Bill
If someone forced me to give an answer, I seriously couldn't honestly tell them why watching close-ups of one machine scraping off steel pieces from a bigger block so fascinating, in fact it's more than that, it's kind of peaceful watching it. Keep up your good work on any of your machining projects you've got going, these shaper videos are very interesting. And I enjoy how these machines work from the inside, I spent my entire life repairing similar kinds of equipment.
The one thing you didn't mention about what and why you are doing the tweaking on the shaper cutters and going through the shaper itself is not only your thirst to learn as much as you can about the shaper and the tooling used but it is also your passion to share and teach what you have learned and continue to learn. That my friend is magical in itself. When you can inspire and bring a smile to an old woodworker like me, that is special. I do understand sharpening and grinding the angles to get the best cut. It is magic when you hit the sweet spot.
“Hope you’re not getting bored with the shaper” Adam, I think as long as you’re making chip and showing us the shop life I’m happy. You know, just listening to the pass at 800, with the 20 degree, it sounds smoother than in the previous video cuts. I’m enjoying the vids, keep on doing you sir!
Anyone who doesn’t like being able to do anything but plug and play will never enjoy the joy of breaking down old iron and fixing it to the build quality it once was. Old iron is the best iron. Thank you for that content, and please, continue making old iron videos
Hey brother. I'm a machinist at a medical shop. Over the past 10 years I've worked in the oilfield and defense industry. I just wanted to drop a line and tell you how much love your channel. I always learn something from every video. Thank you so much for the great content. Keep up the. Good work. -jimmy
I don't know who these people are that don't like to see someone buy an old tool, repair it, and teach themselves to use it properly, but I sure don't want them next to me in the shop. You keep going Abom; we love it.
Don't worry about any snide comments Adam, you're videos are awesome ,a man doing what he loves and sharing it with others , absolutely fantastic. Haters going to hate , shaper's going to shape!
Your explanation of the Shaper project is exactly what I enjoy about your videos. You and Me, Yes this what good machine work was meant to be, Keep on Keeping on. Never Tired of anything you put on TH-cam.
I agree with ya 100% . I think the shaper is better then new. The best part I think is taking it apart to understand how it works and function. Great videos and thanks for bringing us along on your journey.
People who express negative sentiments on the state of your shaper , reveal their own ignorance . There is nothing more satifying in the long term, than restoring old machines. Thanks Adam
Wasting material!?! That's like saying you're wasting gas when you're learning how to drive. Or you're wasting gas/electric when you're learning how to cook/bake. You're learning/practicing how to use the shaper. What a crazy thing to say. If you were wasting the material, not dialing in your technique/feeds/speeds, and not recycling the chips, maybe they could say something about it... But they've got no right to tell you that you can't practice/learn. You're the man, Adam! I love the direction of the channel! Keep up the good work.
Holy cow, that set of micrometers is incredible! I have seen a few sets around but they are always missing something.... your set is really beautiful and complete!
Abom, I have been subscribed to your channel for a little over a year. I haven't been dissapointed. I am not a machinist. I am an electronics technician. But I do enjoy watching what can be made and done with a piece of steel, mill & lathe. I learn something knew every video. Keep up the great work shipmate. I am loving the shaper video's. You show what a machinist needs to do just not making things.
man, you are a rare breed these days. You're a hard worker, honest, but also passionate about your trade. that's awesome and refreshing. you do some great work at the home shop, the works shop, and great videos. thank you for sharing your knowledge and cool projects. take care, jamie from canada
That smile on your face when you say you're going to take a heavier cut says it all about how much you enjoy this stuff! Keep it coming good sir, Love the videos
For those complaining about wasting material, how do you learn about a new machine...on the actual work piece ??? Keep up the good work, absolutely fascinating.
Thanks for a great SNS! Part of buying equipment like the shaper is the journey of bringing stuff back to usable condition and learning how to get the quirks out of it, I’ve seen people put up with problems with equipment there whole life just because they didn’t take the time to learn what makes it click. Thanks for taking us along!
For all the People complaining about the Condition the shaper was in: The K&T also was bought not properly running and Look at that thing now!!! Every machine is in sure Safe Hand when Abom owns it ;) stoked on more content Adam!!
Getting to know the shaper and fixing what's wrong or missing is exactly the right way and I couldn't agree with you more. I had to take mine apart completely so it would fit through the door - and I am glad I did it because that gave me the opportunity to look at all its little intricacies and details. Shapers are unfortunately largely forgotten about - but I find it alot of fun to self-teach me into operating it and discovering little tricks to get you around tight corners. Shapers are wonderful tools and they deserve to play a much bigger role than they actually do. I wouldnt trade one for a mill, never!
hi learning how to use your tools is never a waste of time or stock that how we all learn i am a baker trying to learn to machine as a hobby building steam engines for fun learned a lot from your vids and Keith fenner keep them coming thanks Steve from the u.k.
Not only will there be something wrong with it, but fixing it is the fun part and the learning about the machine part. I don't even own a shaper and know I know a lot about how one works and what makes it work. Good resto job! Thanks.
Getting too bored of all your G & E Shaper episodes?? HELL NO! Adam. Not in the slightest. You just keep 'em coming, and we'll just keep soaking them up. 👍👍 Appreciate ALL your postings. As always, hope all good in your world. Best wishes, Mark Pearce (UK)
I would say that the best way to understand a machine and it's idiosyncracies is to do as you have done and that is to get down and get dirty with it, most interesting Adam, 10/10.
Just want to start by saying Thank you for your video's. For those people that make negative comment on what you are doing. Adam don't worry about them, it's more about them than it is about you. Keep on keeping on. Thanks again.
I know from watching you that you are excellent at what you do. My 2 cents is this: Notice on your last cuts that you have all the heat from the cut going into the chip. You have a full blue color. That is exactly what you want on a shaper. It will definitely increase your tool life. When I apprenticed (Which was long before you were born, LoL) the shaper was one of my favorite machines. I used a 36" Cincinnati for years. One of the things about the Cincinnati was that it had a linkage from the clapper box to a friction block with hardwood in it to raise the box and prevent the tool dragging on the back stroke. It's amazing what can actually be done on a shaper when you think about the possible setups. I really am enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work my friend.
Most excellent. I enjoy videos about the "new" metal shaper because they are so different. I've seen a lot of lathe work and a lot of mill work, but shaping, that's all new to me. I guess I just like old historical tools. Can't wait for the next edition.
Thank you so much for teaching all of us who are interested in this ! I saved a G&E shaper from going to the scrap yard.. I’m learning how to run it now thanks to you!
I never truly appreciated shapers and their versatility until I watched your videos and learned quite a bit from you. Now I want a smaller one really badly, they are so awesome!
wow... that is just awesome. the 0-12 micrometers is just awesome. the box alone tells a story. and then the mic's them selves add to that. LOVE old tools. you can tell alot about a machinist by their tools. where they come from, who they worked for in some cases and what they did. love this stuff!
Reconditioning a new-to-you machine is the first step of enjoying a machine purchase. All my machines have been bought used, I rebuilt all of them. It’s all part of the process I love. And you learn invaluable information about a machine that you wouldn’t otherwise learn if you just plug it in and go.
Adam, PLEASE get yourself a leather apron to wear when you're using the 7" grinder to rough in tools. all it takes is a defect in the wheel and it's coming apart. You can get one on ebay for about $30 shipped. Mighty impressive those 3/4" cuts. MoMax worked much better Jeff
I think it's awesome that you're saving another piece of heavy iron not everybody would take the time to save this thing they usually scrap them God bless you for doing a job that most people hate
You make very Quality content ! So don’t bother with those who talk but never do. Anyone who has worked with that type of equipment realizes it needs maintenance and needs maintained. That’s the reason we have a world full of CNC people who have no idea how to actually run a machine keep it in top condition. Experience with the total picture will be appreciated great content great video.
I'm right there with ya about taking things apart, learning how it works, and fixing whatever regardless. All the people saying it's a shame it took some elbow grease to get the shaper into a better state, congrats. You're the other side apart from corporate greed as to why we now have to fight for what our forefathers took for granted - fixing and modifying their own property. Companies literally bank off people getting lazy and not wanting to go through the process of a teardown even if only to clean and run basic maintenance.
Howdy Adam, You are probably correct about the backlash in the table. If you notice the video when you are at full depth on the cut, there is a definite "bump" in the image when the tool makes contact with the work.
Those cuts are starting to look pretty nice imo Ada, youre right there, the machine sounds and looks happy too. Amazing how those different tool steels hold an edge, as little relief and as much 'cutting' rake as you can get away with is surely the way to go for heavy cuts in mild steel. Im not sure if that block youve got behind the tool is doing anything for you, perhaps try it in front, getting the cutting edge closer to the clapper is good juju. Maybe you could indicate for movement whilst in the cut too, just to see if you find anything worth. I dunno whats up with the guys saying the 'shame you had to work on it' stuff. Overall it looks in great shape with the scraping still visible on the ram etc. Getting in there and sorting the last little niggly bits is a total joy to my mind, proper satisfying whilst learning to better understand the machine. Positive wave sent from the UK :)
I see no difference in buying an old rust bucket car and restoring it than buying a machine. Its the enjoyment in accomplishing the task. I like refurbishing old farm equipment. You do great work, keep at it.
Amazing videos Abom. You are a real nice guy also. You could smile a little more; it suits you. Keep your head together and don't let youtube totally run your live (it sneaks up to you)
For $200 I could make awesome lamps out of those! 52 years as a high end job shop worker and still tool poor! 71 this year and I still miss it! I remember one of my first jobs roughing out gauge plates on the 24 shaper. Mesmerizing
Hi Adam - just keep going, it’s your shaper. I’m glad you take the time to restore it and fix it up right. And to the snooty folks out there; it’s a mechanical device; it’s got moving parts - they’re going to wear out eventually! It’s good that the shaper was in as good a condition as it was; it speaks to the pride and craftsmanship of the G&E folks who built it to do a job and keep on ticking! If you think you can run even a finely made German automobile for 25 years or so without maintainence, go right ahead and try! Meanwhile, I’ll keep up with my trusty ol’ Ford F-150 pick-em-up truck and scheduled maintainence and watch it tick over 200,000 miles or so, as I pass your broken-down car on the side of the road. If you take care of well-built equipment, it’ll take care of you. Treat it like cr*p, and Mr. Bozo will visit your shop! 😎
Adam I feel the same way and I get great satisfaction from improving my tools even if the work I'm doing isn't imperative to operation. I think it's more about tuning the machine to my liking. It's actually very relaxing and time can really fly by!
Great video Adam. I will likely never own a shaper, but watching your tool development and grinding techniques are very helpful to me. Interesting AND instructive...thanks!
Adam, I was taking a pretty big cut this last week at work and it made me think of your channel. It gave me an idea for a competition with your viewers. Big chip challenge you could have people send in the biggest chips they can make and in a few months you pick a winner
LOVING the shaper vids!! (But you already knew that from my previous comments) I went through the same process when I got my first one, and believe that a lot can be learned from hss/tool shape use on the shaper. You mentioned your gibs in a previous video; you might consider checking play in the ram with an indicator to see how much side-side movement it currently has. My first shaper (14"G&E) was much older/worn and would hop-chatter in some cuts until I adjusted the gibs tighter (not too much, there is a "just right"). There's more I could say, but keep up the great work. Thanks!
That Starret mic set is gorgeous... priceless. Your shop is just quite something these days Adam - what a facility. Impressive roughing cuts... totally hypnotic! Glad the Mo-Max is better tool material. I know this is roughing but did look as though from post cut surface that there is a sort of ''tearing'' finish, to be expected I guess - also still seems a slight tendency to struggle with start of cut sometimes... of course forces are immense!
will done on your you tube video i do enjoy but its nice someone using shaper i have don`t see one or used one since i was apprentice i am now 58 and live in Bristol in the UK this seem like a forgot bit of kit. last i used one was to rough out keys like gib head and feather key s in my first year of apprenticeship i was show how used one a great m/c for roughing out +it nice to see one grinding up tools keep it up
Love the videos. They just keep getting better and better. About the comments. YT comments can be the worst. I really appreciate you dispelling the shitty ones. It’s gotta suck reading them on your side. I know as just a viewer sometimes these comments drive me nuts. Too many trolls and idiots out there. There should be a test you have to take before commenting. LOL.
Learning curves are an interesting thing with hindsight. Back when this video was made you didn't know about the clapper angle setting. Now you do, this would explain a lot of what was going on here. Cheers mate.
watching that thing cut is surreal. lights in my house dim on every stroke. fun vid Adam.
You think that’s something, wait till you see the 2” depth cuts with 30 thou step over. 😎⚡️
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Adam, three things come to mind from my past with one of these machines. First I would suggest you change your cutting edge approach angle as it relates to the work. You have an angle on your toolbit like it was a lathe tool. If you grind it more like a planer tool leaving that tapered rake out of it. Make your bit square with only about 2 degrees clearance under the cutting edge. Put 3-4 under the tip and about 8 on the top. Maintain a square profile without that raked taper.. That will keep the impact on start of cut more linear with the ram and avoid the desire to shift the clapper box to the side.
Second... back the day we mounted a glass reservoir drip oiler on the ram and plumbed a soft copper tube over the cutting bit shank right where you keep dripping oil. Set it so it drips about once every 10 seconds or so... We used to use heavy black thread cutting oil in it like you would use for threading gas pipe. The oil is important when hogging to prevent chip weld on the cutting edge. On big projects we would take a gob of moly grease and mix it in the cutting oil.
Third. Since you don't have a tool lift actuator on the clapper box the tool pivot pin takes a bit of a beating. You'll want to take a look and do what you can to eliminate any play from the clapper and pin. The more rigid you can get that fit the better your surface finish will be.
hope that helps.
~Bill
3:18 "...and I'm gonna continue to share that stuff with you" (- whether you like it or not!)
You go Adam, it's *YOUR* show we tune in for.☺
If someone forced me to give an answer, I seriously couldn't honestly tell them why watching close-ups of one machine scraping off steel pieces from a bigger block so fascinating, in fact it's more than that, it's kind of peaceful watching it. Keep up your good work on any of your machining projects you've got going, these shaper videos are very interesting. And I enjoy how these machines work from the inside, I spent my entire life repairing similar kinds of equipment.
Titus Tucker Don’t worry, You are not alone:)
The one thing you didn't mention about what and why you are doing the tweaking on the shaper cutters and going through the shaper itself is not only your thirst to learn as much as you can about the shaper and the tooling used but it is also your passion to share and teach what you have learned and continue to learn. That my friend is magical in itself. When you can inspire and bring a smile to an old woodworker like me, that is special. I do understand sharpening and grinding the angles to get the best cut. It is magic when you hit the sweet spot.
James Stanlake Your right. There’s a who selfish people who fail to realize that.
Don't ever quit, I will always have your back! My eyes are good enough to see value.
“Hope you’re not getting bored with the shaper” Adam, I think as long as you’re making chip and showing us the shop life I’m happy.
You know, just listening to the pass at 800, with the 20 degree, it sounds smoother than in the previous video cuts. I’m enjoying the vids, keep on doing you sir!
I have learned sooooooo much from this guy over the years, every time you post a video I have a pen and paper ready.
Anyone who doesn’t like being able to do anything but plug and play will never enjoy the joy of breaking down old iron and fixing it to the build quality it once was. Old iron is the best iron. Thank you for that content, and please, continue making old iron videos
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Hey brother. I'm a machinist at a medical shop. Over the past 10 years I've worked in the oilfield and defense industry. I just wanted to drop a line and tell you how much love your channel. I always learn something from every video. Thank you so much for the great content. Keep up the. Good work. -jimmy
The shaper footage is actually very soothing and satisfying to watch, so I won't get tired of it any time soon.
I don't know who these people are that don't like to see someone buy an old tool, repair it, and teach themselves to use it properly, but I sure don't want them next to me in the shop. You keep going Abom; we love it.
Absolutely right sir. Who the hell are these bloody trolls that say such silly things?
I like when you said “from what the pros are tellin’ me” !
Don't worry about any snide comments Adam, you're videos are awesome ,a man doing what he loves and sharing it with others , absolutely fantastic.
Haters going to hate , shaper's going to shape!
I could never get tired of watching shaper videos, lol.
Your explanation of the Shaper project is exactly what I enjoy about your videos. You and Me, Yes this what good machine work was meant to be, Keep on Keeping on. Never Tired of anything you put on TH-cam.
I’m 50 to 75 years old and have a few worn out parts too! Those guys are not mechanics or machinists, good work Adam. Thanks for sharing.
Almost hypnotic watching that shaper carve away at that steel. Weight loss is really starting to notice now. Keep up the good work
I agree with ya 100% . I think the shaper is better then new. The best part I think is taking it apart to understand how it works and function. Great videos and thanks for bringing us along on your journey.
People who express negative sentiments on the state of your shaper , reveal their own ignorance . There is nothing more satifying in the long term, than restoring old machines. Thanks Adam
Wasting material!?! That's like saying you're wasting gas when you're learning how to drive. Or you're wasting gas/electric when you're learning how to cook/bake. You're learning/practicing how to use the shaper. What a crazy thing to say. If you were wasting the material, not dialing in your technique/feeds/speeds, and not recycling the chips, maybe they could say something about it... But they've got no right to tell you that you can't practice/learn.
You're the man, Adam! I love the direction of the channel! Keep up the good work.
I wasted a lot of chalk and pencils learning to write.
Holy cow, that set of micrometers is incredible! I have seen a few sets around but they are always missing something.... your set is really beautiful and complete!
Getting bored by shaper footage - are you kidding me?
I absolutely love it and can't get enough :D
Abom, I have been subscribed to your channel for a little over a year. I haven't been dissapointed. I am not a machinist. I am an electronics technician. But I do enjoy watching what can be made and done with a piece of steel, mill & lathe. I learn something knew every video. Keep up the great work shipmate. I am loving the shaper video's. You show what a machinist needs to do just not making things.
man, you are a rare breed these days. You're a hard worker, honest, but also passionate about your trade. that's awesome and refreshing. you do some great work at the home shop, the works shop, and great videos. thank you for sharing your knowledge and cool projects. take care, jamie from canada
That smile on your face when you say you're going to take a heavier cut says it all about how much you enjoy this stuff! Keep it coming good sir, Love the videos
For those complaining about wasting material, how do you learn about a new machine...on the actual work piece ???
Keep up the good work, absolutely fascinating.
Thanks for a great SNS! Part of buying equipment like the shaper is the journey of bringing stuff back to usable condition and learning how to get the quirks out of it, I’ve seen people put up with problems with equipment there whole life just because they didn’t take the time to learn what makes it click. Thanks for taking us along!
Bored of your shaper! its just so fun to see you smile with your new machine :)
anyone else find it super interesting watching a master in their field like Adam learning a new skill (using a shaper)?
For all the People complaining about the Condition the shaper was in: The K&T also was bought not properly running and Look at that thing now!!! Every machine is in sure Safe Hand when Abom owns it ;) stoked on more content Adam!!
Dang Adam those are some real big boy chips! Love the shaper videos, its cool to see how they work on the insides.
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No not getting bored with shaper vids!!! Keep them coming!! VERY interesting Adam!
The pride and passion you have for your trade is amazing. Thank you
Absolutely NOT bored of your shaper videos man !! Total breath of fresh air
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Getting to know the shaper and fixing what's wrong or missing is exactly the right way and I couldn't agree with you more.
I had to take mine apart completely so it would fit through the door - and I am glad I did it because that gave me the opportunity to look at all its little intricacies and details. Shapers are unfortunately largely forgotten about - but I find it alot of fun to self-teach me into operating it and discovering little tricks to get you around tight corners.
Shapers are wonderful tools and they deserve to play a much bigger role than they actually do.
I wouldnt trade one for a mill, never!
hi learning how to use your tools is never a waste of time or stock that how we all learn i am a baker trying to learn to machine as a hobby building steam engines for fun learned a lot from your vids and Keith fenner keep them coming thanks Steve from the u.k.
Not boring at all, love the shaper videos and all the details.
Right on Adam, I love the old machines, restoring, fixing, making it better, running it. That's what it's mostly about.
Not only will there be something wrong with it, but fixing it is the fun part and the learning about the machine part. I don't even own a shaper and know I know a lot about how one works and what makes it work. Good resto job! Thanks.
Getting too bored of all your G & E Shaper episodes??
HELL NO! Adam. Not in the slightest. You just keep 'em coming, and we'll just keep soaking them up. 👍👍
Appreciate ALL your postings. As always, hope all good in your world.
Best wishes,
Mark Pearce (UK)
I would say that the best way to understand a machine and it's idiosyncracies is to do as you have done and that is to get down and get dirty with it, most interesting Adam, 10/10.
I love how those shaper chips are so large as to have a real sound to them as they fall...
This journey and your enthusiasm for the machines and what they do make this "must watch " material.
Just want to start by saying Thank you for your video's. For those people that make negative comment on what you are doing. Adam don't worry about them, it's more about them than it is about you. Keep on keeping on. Thanks again.
I know from watching you that you are excellent at what you do. My 2 cents is this: Notice on your last cuts that you have all the heat from the cut going into the chip. You have a full blue color. That is exactly what you want on a shaper. It will definitely increase your tool life. When I apprenticed (Which was long before you were born, LoL) the shaper was one of my favorite machines. I used a 36" Cincinnati for years. One of the things about the Cincinnati was that it had a linkage from the clapper box to a friction block with hardwood in it to raise the box and prevent the tool dragging on the back stroke. It's amazing what can actually be done on a shaper when you think about the possible setups. I really am enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work my friend.
Tool lifter. Some shaper came optioned with them. They ordered mine without it.
this is such an awesome machine in that contemplating the forces involved just makes me speechless at times. i love watching it go
Love the shaper videos. Really great. Fascinated by this older technology.
Most excellent. I enjoy videos about the "new" metal shaper because they are so different. I've seen a lot of lathe work and a lot of mill work, but shaping, that's all new to me. I guess I just like old historical tools. Can't wait for the next edition.
Thank you so much for teaching all of us who are interested in this ! I saved a G&E shaper from going to the scrap yard.. I’m learning how to run it now thanks to you!
I never truly appreciated shapers and their versatility until I watched your videos and learned quite a bit from you. Now I want a smaller one really badly, they are so awesome!
Shermingtan Look up Stefan Gotteswinter’s video making circular splines on his shaper. Very versatile machine with the right accessories.
Have a good day Abom, thx for the video.
There's something relaxing about the sound of metal peeling and the shaper loading up from a big cut.
wow... that is just awesome. the 0-12 micrometers is just awesome. the box alone tells a story. and then the mic's them selves add to that. LOVE old tools. you can tell alot about a machinist by their tools. where they come from, who they worked for in some cases and what they did. love this stuff!
Love seeing the shaper, and i can see how excited you are with this machine! I could fall asleep to the sound of it cutting.
Mo betta, Nice chips. Awesome score on that mic set.
Reconditioning a new-to-you machine is the first step of enjoying a machine purchase. All my machines have been bought used, I rebuilt all of them. It’s all part of the process I love. And you learn invaluable information about a machine that you wouldn’t otherwise learn if you just plug it in and go.
Adam, PLEASE get yourself a leather apron to wear when you're using the 7" grinder to rough in tools. all it takes is a defect in the wheel and it's coming apart. You can get one on ebay for about $30 shipped.
Mighty impressive those 3/4" cuts. MoMax worked much better
Jeff
I think it's awesome that you're saving another piece of heavy iron not everybody would take the time to save this thing they usually scrap them God bless you for doing a job that most people hate
Liked the way the chip seemed to roll off the tool. That grind looks good Adam. Nice chips by the way. Thumbs UP!
Looks like you have a wonderful old machine. Mesmerizing, oh,, a lot of useful info too 👍
You make very Quality content ! So don’t bother with those who talk but never do. Anyone who has worked with that type of equipment realizes it needs maintenance and needs maintained.
That’s the reason we have a world full of CNC people who have no idea how to actually run a machine keep it in top condition. Experience with the total picture will be appreciated great content great video.
I absolutely love your shop. One day I hope to have one like yours
Hi Adam, I enjoy watching you strip and repair machines it would be boring if you bought perfect ones keep up the good work.
Adam, I’m digging the clear guard on your grinder. Lol. Just poking some fun at you. Great vid!
It may have been the camera angle but it looked like he was getting real close to his shirt with the wheel. That would've been all bad!!!
I'm right there with ya about taking things apart, learning how it works, and fixing whatever regardless. All the people saying it's a shame it took some elbow grease to get the shaper into a better state, congrats. You're the other side apart from corporate greed as to why we now have to fight for what our forefathers took for granted - fixing and modifying their own property. Companies literally bank off people getting lazy and not wanting to go through the process of a teardown even if only to clean and run basic maintenance.
Howdy Adam,
You are probably correct about the backlash in the table. If you notice the video when you are at full depth on the cut, there is a definite "bump" in the image when the tool makes contact with the work.
its fun to put work into it, makes it yours, then you know more about it and how it all works.
As usual when I feel I have to make a comment, I scroll down, and someone just said it. :o)
good to see a nice comment :) usually youtube has such vitriol and hate that im wondering sometimes to bother :)
Those cuts are starting to look pretty nice imo Ada, youre right there, the machine sounds and looks happy too. Amazing how those different tool steels hold an edge, as little relief and as much 'cutting' rake as you can get away with is surely the way to go for heavy cuts in mild steel. Im not sure if that block youve got behind the tool is doing anything for you, perhaps try it in front, getting the cutting edge closer to the clapper is good juju. Maybe you could indicate for movement whilst in the cut too, just to see if you find anything worth.
I dunno whats up with the guys saying the 'shame you had to work on it' stuff. Overall it looks in great shape with the scraping still visible on the ram etc. Getting in there and sorting the last little niggly bits is a total joy to my mind, proper satisfying whilst learning to better understand the machine.
Positive wave sent from the UK :)
Wow. What a find for that set of Starrett mics. That’s awesome!
That wedge shaped profile is exactly what I was thinking would work well. Thanks for the update! Good work on get the Victor back up.
Congratulations on the mic set!!! I'd love to find a set like that!
I see no difference in buying an old rust bucket car and restoring it than buying a machine. Its the enjoyment in accomplishing the task. I like refurbishing old farm equipment. You do great work, keep at it.
Amazing videos Abom. You are a real nice guy also. You could smile a little more; it suits you. Keep your head together and don't let youtube totally run your live (it sneaks up to you)
i love watching the work you do and it is nice that the shaper is in good hands that is willing to fix it up. Keep up all the great work.
Starrett mic set is gorgeous...congrats! ~ Richard
Some people just don't get it, refurbishing a piece of machinery helps you learn a great deal about how it works etc.
Some people are too short minded to see the bigger picture.
Gotta love the sound of big chips falling
You know what they say my man...... its not the destination..... its the journey! Love your video's !
Oh man. That’s a nice mic set. Glad to see the shaper is getting good use Adam.
Never bored. Love seeing the notification of new content.
For $200 I could make awesome lamps out of those! 52 years as a high end job shop worker and still tool poor! 71 this year and I still miss it! I remember one of my first jobs roughing out gauge plates on the 24 shaper. Mesmerizing
You just made your shaper your own, so keep up the great work Adam, as i have learnt loads about your machines and really interesting 👍
Hi Adam - just keep going, it’s your shaper. I’m glad you take the time to restore it and fix it up right. And to the snooty folks out there; it’s a mechanical device; it’s got moving parts - they’re going to wear out eventually! It’s good that the shaper was in as good a condition as it was; it speaks to the pride and craftsmanship of the G&E folks who built it to do a job and keep on ticking! If you think you can run even a finely made German automobile for 25 years or so without maintainence, go right ahead and try! Meanwhile, I’ll keep up with my trusty ol’ Ford F-150 pick-em-up truck and scheduled maintainence and watch it tick over 200,000 miles or so, as I pass your broken-down car on the side of the road. If you take care of well-built equipment, it’ll take care of you. Treat it like cr*p, and Mr. Bozo will visit your shop! 😎
In case you haven't found any more info on the "SUPER Mo Chip" tool, it was from Firth Sterling 4% Cr 6% Mo 1.5% V 8%Co b steel AISI code M40B.
Some guys like to rebuild old cars some people like rebuilding old machines. These videos are awesome
Keep on doing what you're doing Adam. There's always an unhappy soul or two out there. Those mics, $200.00, in the case, damn man!!!
Adam I feel the same way and I get great satisfaction from improving my tools even if the work I'm doing isn't imperative to operation. I think it's more about tuning the machine to my liking. It's actually very relaxing and time can really fly by!
Adam, you are doing an excellent job as evidenced by the number of subscribers. Keep up the great work!
Great video Adam. I will likely never own a shaper, but watching your tool development and grinding techniques are very helpful to me. Interesting AND instructive...thanks!
Adam, I was taking a pretty big cut this last week at work and it made me think of your channel. It gave me an idea for a competition with your viewers. Big chip challenge you could have people send in the biggest chips they can make and in a few months you pick a winner
Looks Mo-Better to me. That was fun seeing you roughing the tool bit in with the angle grinder.
Another great video, and a fantastic deal on those mics!
LOVING the shaper vids!! (But you already knew that from my previous comments) I went through the same process when I got my first one, and believe that a lot can be learned from hss/tool shape use on the shaper. You mentioned your gibs in a previous video; you might consider checking play in the ram with an indicator to see how much side-side movement it currently has. My first shaper (14"G&E) was much older/worn and would hop-chatter in some cuts until I adjusted the gibs tighter (not too much, there is a "just right"). There's more I could say, but keep up the great work. Thanks!
All in good time man
The sound of that shaper could rock a man to sleep at night.
Keep it up holmes, we the North love you since day one my man!
That Starret mic set is gorgeous... priceless. Your shop is just quite something these days Adam - what a facility.
Impressive roughing cuts... totally hypnotic! Glad the Mo-Max is better tool material. I know this is roughing but did look as though from post cut surface that there is a sort of ''tearing'' finish, to be expected I guess - also still seems a slight tendency to struggle with start of cut sometimes... of course forces are immense!
will done on your you tube video i do enjoy but its nice someone using shaper i have don`t see one or used one since i was apprentice i am now 58 and live in Bristol in the UK this seem like a forgot bit of kit. last i used one was to rough out keys like gib head and feather key s in my first year of apprenticeship i was show how used one a great m/c for roughing out +it nice to see one grinding up tools keep it up
That machine is such a beast!
Love the videos. They just keep getting better and better. About the comments. YT comments can be the worst. I really appreciate you dispelling the shitty ones. It’s gotta suck reading them on your side. I know as just a viewer sometimes these comments drive me nuts. Too many trolls and idiots out there. There should be a test you have to take before commenting. LOL.
Learning curves are an interesting thing with hindsight. Back when this video was made you didn't know about the clapper angle setting. Now you do, this would explain a lot of what was going on here. Cheers mate.