Cutting Splines On The Shaper & Tool Grinding
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- Doing some testing this week trying to make a splined shaft on the big Cincinnati 24" metal shaper.
I also show using the surface grinder and a cutter grinder fixture being used to grind tooling for the lathe and shaper. Huge thanks to my Patrons for sticking with me.
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Steve, I've been watching your channel for a while now; through the acquisition of most of your machines. And I can clearly see how you have grown in your experience and knowledge in these machines. It is encouraging to guys who are just starting out, that knowledge comes with experience.
Your channel is also one of the best in production value as far as filming and camera placement and so on.
(The camping sequence is also very nice to see.)
I really enjoy your channel and I honestly believe it is one of the best out there.
Thanks,
Eric
Thank you very much. I do my best to get good shots. 👍 I appreciate you watching.
Been watching wood craftsmen, mechanics, portable sawmill operaters, semi truck restorers, heavy machinery operators and welders. You just added a whole new category to my interests. You sir, are a true craftsman!
Probably the coolest use of a shaper that I've seen on TH-cam yet.
Fourth time watching this video for a hobbyist trying to get to your level it's a bit of a challenge thanks for the content
Saturday morning coffee with Steve! Life is good!
LOL, Thank and good morning :-)
It is good to see that the big shaper can do such [relatively] tiny cuts. The more I watch your videos, the more I learn about what these various tools can do, and my brain fills with ideas & schemes... Many thanks, Steve, keep up the good work!
Spending quality time with your son is Great! Nice work on the shifter shaft. Always enjoy your videos.
just making my way thru your back catalogue again , and only this time just noticed the Binky (BOM) sticker and the TOT "T", somebodys been taking notes from Tony!
Kilroy shirt sighting! Nice work
Yeah!
Now you are ready to start manufacturing shift rods. I went camping on lake Houston when I was a teen and came home loaded with ticks our tent did not stand up to the rain and had to sleep on the top of the bait tanks in an old bait shed where we found a rattle snake and I was awake most of the night wondering if their was another. I never was interested in camping again.
Nice job, that old shaper is nice too.
Well done Steve, enjoyed the video. Thank you for taking the time.
Great video Steve if you intend to make more maybe make a custom index plate 31 spline keep it up.
Good idea.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Ideally, a hardened broach would be the way to go. Tooling and setup is what always takes the most time.
This has been fascinating to watch. If you are making a batch of them it will be a very tedious job, I hope you charge enough for them.
That's so awesome I need some tooling to do this kind of work, and Hello Steve and family. Thanks Steve for the videos and thanks family for letting us borrow Steve for a while
Maybe think about some hardening so that the arm fails first. Great work, keep it up. 👍
If you are going to make several of these parts, you can mate a stepper motor to your rotary table and run it with an Arduino. I believe Stefan was in a similar situation and adapted his rotary table.
Thanks for demonstrating the use of a universal grinding fixture on a surface grinder. I hope to use that in the future.
I did this based on www.worldofward.com/rotarycontroller/ cost me next to nothing best thing I ever did.
Incredible talent and skill!!!!! I hope making splined shafts becomes lucrative for you.
Nice shaper work, things shaping up, oh, no yes I said it. Nice content! Enjoy those years with your son. I am impressed that he isn’t hooked on gaming. You set a great example for many. Dirt biking and camping, things to cherish!
Sure am jealous of you guys that have shapers..lol they just look so darn handy
Oh man, The aRe so + so = SO COOL. Right on Thanks Steve
Great job Steve. I had to make up a splined blank to Cut internal Splines on a New Gear lever i had made from builit Alloy for a classic motor bike i was Building. I set up on the mill with the shaft mounted in the rotary table. Then shaped up a cut off wheel to spin in the chuck of the mill, To cut the splines. Worked out ok in the End. Very time consuming for sure. But Glad the shaper came in handy again for you. Cheers Dave from Australia
The only thing I love better than splines on the shaper is Raman, and the only thing I hate worse than ticks are chiggers!
I hate freaking chiggers!
What the beast is it? We have no any chiggers. Ticks - yes, but only in the spring.
@@sid1977 Nasty little buggers, like to get into tight spots and much smaller than a tick!
The bolt allows a loose slide fit to tighten up to a press fit through the "pinch" action. If you used it in the loose state, your carefully crafted splines, and those on the shift arm, would be battered to uselessness VERY rapidly. A friend long ago neglected to tighten the pinch bolt on the kicker of his freshly rebuilt kawi H1, resulting in a smooth shaft and kick arm bore on his first kick. A shifter obviously isn't subject to that load, but it wouldn't last very long loose. By placing the pinch bolt within the shaft OD the compression of the fit becomes far more uniform, preventing only a few splines taking the working load.
Great work. Great job for a shaper. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, really nice job, sir!
Sweet on the camping with your son. Yes, the ticks, chiggers, and mosquitoes are very bad this year. I have to spray to work in the garden. Did some brush clearing and ended up with 42 chigger bites, even with 45% deet. I guess I just drink it next time, cause the spraying on the jeans/socks/shoes left a lot to be desired.
Looks good, that’s is intricate part. Yes being in the woods kinda brings the ticks and chiggers definitely
Great video as always.
I used to live in Indiana as a kid and when I would go hunting or just exploring in the woods I would always get chigger bites. Eventually, I found that tucking the pant legs into the socks and dusting the socks with sulphur powder was effective in avoiding the chigger bites.
2.4k views and only 314 likes? Common folks show some love to a gentleman who loves what he does.
Its always 10% of viewes or less in the 1st 24 hours. The longer the video runs the lower the percentage of people who like / thumbs up the video. Most people cant be bothered to click a button even if it helps the person they enjoy watching and keeps them in business.
Thanks Friend👍
Just a thought - Likes on YT aren't just a button click! Every liked video ends up in your channel's liked videos list so that if you [like] every video you like the list becomes so big that it is little value. In addition, if you clean up your liked list, all the likes go away; that's silly! This is something I really wish that TH-cam would change. If I really want to go back to a video I either put it in separate playlist or watch later.
@@SteveSummers Hi Steve I've been a subscriber for a while now and always enjoy your video's. I watch most of the popular machining channels out there and some of the smaller ones that I've found and enjoy. I also noticed that the likes run about 10% for everyone. It doesn't make any sense to me. When you are doing job shop type work everything takes forever I couldn't imagine trying to set up cameras, work around tripods and narrating also. Yes you guys do make some money by doing this and some do well but I doubt that if you figured how much you are making per hour it would not be that much. This community that we have here one You Tube is something very special. It is helping to keep the industrial arts alive. If someone makes a video with decent content in it at least I can press a button. Thanks for all that you do Andy
Chiggers... I remember them well! My brother and I, along with our cousins, used to spend summers in Louisville at my Grandparents. We usually camped in one of the horse fields in a tent. Good times!
Oh, BTW, I do enjoy your videos. I have an upcoming restoration on an old Kawi trials bike with a broken shift shaft. This will be helpful.
Excellent job on the spline, great to see tool preparation and method. Big smile on your son, ref camping, no girls 😁.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice job Steve! You need a nice Cincinnati divining head.
Nicely done! Makes me want to get my small shaper running even more, as I find cutting splines fascinating.
Just love seeing other TH-cam stickers and tee shirt. Great minds think alike. Thanks for sharing.
We are all in it together and have lots in common. If I can promote them I will. I just need another 100 shirts and my watch list will be covered😁
A straight tooth plain milling cutter you use a stationary finger to do
the teeth on the OD but
on a stagger tooth you need to slide the tooth over a stationary finger.
The point of the finger needs to be set to the wheel head and to the high point of the wheel. The point of the finger should be about 120 degrees included to give you a ramp to start the cutter .
Straight teeth are a lot easier.
Another good one Steve : shapers rule, remember back when everybody threw away ceiling fans back in the 50's now look
Some really nice work
Thanks for another great vid Steve.
Steve, I just found your channel from a comment about your comment on ToT's broaching video, and I am pleased to have done so. From the quick browse I have done so far, you have a well equipped shop, and some great content which I shall be working my way through. I loved the tool sharpening aspect of this video for sure. I am a retired toolmaker come design engineer who worked at Ford UK's Product Development site at Dunton Essex in the Test Instrumentation section.
Thanks, glad to have you👍
What a versatile tool that shaper is. I love shaper videos. Looks like good times camping too! I look forward to your video's along with Abom79's. I really like surface grinders! I like to restore old hand planes, a surface grinder can really get those flat! Those splines look awesome.
Enjoyed. I just picked up a universal tool grinder to grind HSS on my surface grinder to use in the shaper so this video was perfect timing.
I really appreciate your videos and showing that you care about family time also. There is nothing like the outdoors. You inspire me on every video you make! as a long time dirt bike rider I can appreciate the shifter shaft splines. I have purchased bikes where they had the shifter welded to the spline before. "Adventures Await" Tim in Richmond, Ky.
Nice work! Think I need a shaper now as well but it would have to go in the living room. 😇
It would replace that couch that no one ever sits on.
and that,s a problem HOW ???????
Good place for it then your wife can clean up the chips, no problem
Sam B I have one of those in the front room - hasn’t been sat on in years - hmmm, it’s got me thinking. It’s right next to my switchboard too so getting 3 phase to it is easy too... 😇
Amazing craftmanship Steve enjoyed it
sweet job Steve
I always have spline projects and I was thinking about doing it on a Shaper you did it exactly how I would do it. thank you for good video.
Awesome content in this video. Good to see the camping segment..
Great job Steve also your shaper is sweet. Thanks for letting us know the material used.
I had a flashback to my Honda 1977 CB400-4 sitting on the side of the road with the shift lever dangling! :) good times. Nice replacement part btw! G>
That was a great project to watch. Your son is lucky to have a Dad with mechanical skills as well as machinist skills.
Thank you👍👊
Abom sent me here. I dig the fact that you make tool sharpening such a critical part of your channel. It seems to be a solid niche for you to take advantage of.
Anyways, awesome content.
awesome dude. Im a tool and cuttergrinder and your doing it almost right. the milling cutters come in spacific widths. side grinding alters the width. facing the flutes and topping the diameter is the way to go unless widths are not important
nice work steve
Great video - Makes me wonder if those splines are just a bit undersize for the job; but that wasn't your problem.
Never pass up those times with your kids as they seldom pass your way again! A lesson I took from the song "Cat's in the Cradle!"
So your wheel grind back toward the tooth behind lower the wheel to clear the area behind . Your using a good smaller cup wheel . It's easier to get between the teeth than a 5" wheel .
What an awesome machine. That shaft turned out perfect. Factory quality!
Grind and scraping away, have a great day thank you. Scraper for spline work good idea.
Lance & Patrick.
Good morning guys👍👊
thumbs up big time steve real nice job and very satisfiing to be able to make a part like you did.
Nice job fingers , I take back half of what I said boutchu, but I would've turned the concave after the broaching process to avoid the interrupted cut on the shaper . Good to see u and the boy out together
Darn good machinist. Thank you sir.
Good job man that’s awesome
Another great video. Thank you for sharing. The TOT tee! You should send Tony a Steve Summers bracelet.
If I had an hat I would take it off to you,yet another job well done.Keep the vids coming to us in England.
spending time with the boy... best way to build a man.
Awesome Steve, you can’t beat a shaper
Interesting video, Steve. Nice to see all the steps involved in setting up and making the part.
Good for you for going camping with your son. Ramen noodles and bug bites...What could be better than that?
🤔 no bug bites would be better😁
Nice work!
Yeah I love me an old shaper…. You can make anything but a profit with one. They sure is fun though!
Really neat!
Damn Fine Job !! I'd love to have that cutter/grinder ! In the past, I've often thought about getting one and setting up a shop. One could make some serious coin reworking mills, drills and cutters ! It probably paid for itself, just by you tuning up those mill cutters !!
best way to start any Saturday. open up my shop, grab some coffee, and enjoy some Steve!
Thanks Justin👍
Shapers are fun.
Good job!!!!
PERFECT WORK .. Great share Steve .. ENJOYED !!
Hi Steve
Great work on the shifter shaft splines, you sure know how to use that shaper.
I love your tool and cutter grinder, plus your surface grinder, I used to work in a tool room grinding cutters all day (years ago) and I agree with you it is one of the most cost saving tools in a workshop, I wish I had one now. (in my small home workshop)
Look forward to your next video.
Regards
Gary
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Hi Steve I’ve just found your great channel and subscribed. Nice work on those spline 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching and subscribing.
Nice job.
You the man Steve! Nice work as always.
Good job Steve
Thanks for showing this! Your videos are great.
If I had to make more than a couple of these, I would make a master (would that be a hob? I don't know for certain.) out of O1, drill through the center, then harden it.
Then I'd make a jig so it could spin.
Set a height stop, then chuck the work pieces up in a collet on the mill (or lathe, but I figure it'd be easier to hold the spin jig in the vise).
Wouldn't take more time to make the master and the jig than it would to make a few of them on the shaper with the dividing head.
Awesome job on a challenging part!
I would figure be my luck the stroke control would come loose and the shaper would decide to see how far it could shove the rotab off the table. Lol
It not much of a concern 😁. The stroke setting / position is set by a 1.5" threaded rod . It would definitely bust that rotary table completely off the shaper. That or rip the T nuts out. 🤢
Awesome work Steve love the videos.
I love the shirt!
Good setups Steve. The second and third are easier and faster.
Hmm. If it's a 90 degree V, you could do this job in the horizontal mill, or even the vertical mill. Not quite as sexy, but maybe a little faster. Always interesting!
I considered both. Good to see you Wes. Definitely considered doing it on the horizontal.
great job
Cool, now a kick start shaft for honda xl250. I coulfd really use one for my old bike.
Nice little project Steve! You did well. Sound like you may need to make a new plate, with the divisions you need, if you are going to make more of those.
Very nice video. Do not have to worry about chiggers out here, but you do have the occasional tick, and of course mosquitos. Hood Work.
I made a spline like this once (kind of) I made a single point cutting tool and rotated the shaft with the dividing head while spinning the top in the horizontal mill. It seemed to be working well until I got the call that he got a spare shaft and decided to weld his extension together...😢 A similar way to skin a cat I suppose, I just don't have a shaper.
Just wondering if a straight coarse knurling tool wouldn't do the same job. A lot faster and all done on the lathe. Good work and keep it up.
With the correct Knurled tool I would say yes. It would also be stronger I would guess.
That was my thought too, a well-built knurling tool and an annealed shaft would make quick work of it. And you can use the shaper to make the knurl.
If you had a bunch of these to do could you make a "knurling" tool to use the lathe or maybe a die with internal splines to use on a hydraulic press?
Greetings Steve. Have you considered making a die that you could harden and use with your press to make those splines? I'm thinking of a round disk, drilled and internal splined, then heat treated and tempered. Turn the shaft out on the lathe, then press into the die to cut the splines all at once. Press the shaft out of the die, add the spring then weld to the shift arm. I'm sure you could crank out a half dozen or so an hour in small batches.
Nice job Steve,
excellent job, steve
As usual, nice job on the spline cutting.
Might be cheaper to find a similar shift shaft that is still available and swap the shift plates.
great video
Nice job Steve....!
nice job