He says, we didn't have regular mass shooting in the United States 40 years ago. 40 years ago, machine guns weren't banned. Therefore, we must reinstate machine gun ownership.
For a guy who supposedly knows so much about firearms from his time in the Army...this Marine would like to know what "60 caliber machine gun" he mentioned in the first few seconds, did he fire while in the military.
WTF? A .60 cal machine gun?!! I just pulled up his biography... he is a UPS employee that served as a 74D NBC Specialist during the Gulf War era. This rambling, in-cohesive talk is filled with nonsense. Hey Dave -- stick to your day job.
Kind of difficult to take someone seriously, when the stick their foot in their mouth within 11 seconds of the start of the speach. Don't know what he said later than 20 seconds, because I bailed out.
The 2nd Amendment was never about hunting. It was intended to keep the power of government in the hands of the people. I liked the 60 cal machine gun too. It must be more powerful than the 50 cal...
Just the opposite. Unconsciously started buying guns to save people. To buy a weapon for self defense, the line that was crossed is "I've already decided to save a human life." People who buy a weapon are not doing so with the hopes of killing someone. It's with the hope of deterring violence, saving one's own life, or the life of their loved one.
If you are scrolling through the comments here is a break down: 50% comments: i never heard of a 60 cal, must have been a ghost gun 25% comments: this guy is an idiot here reference the 2nd amendment 10% comments: it is not out of fear... 5% comments: I disagree but he had some good points 4% comments: Long paragraphs about what they believe 3% comments: i agree with him 2% comments: what is he talking about 1% comments: my comment
I made it to about 7:07 minutes in and had to turn him off. Stand Your Ground is not about fear or a license to kill, it protects gun owners from radicalized District Attorneys and corrupt Judges.
I almost agree with you, somewhat... The reason for firearms ownership in thr first 200 years was not sport or hunting. It was because we made this country by fighting a tyrannical government. Look up the Battle of Athens. I hope you change your use of Langford's study now that it's been proven completely false. What else happened in the 60's-70's? Civil rights movement. Yes, making the decision to take a human life is the whole point. If someone threatens my/my family's life I will take that person's life before they take mine. I wouldn't call it fear. It's a respect of danger. But why do we fear? Because the is a true and relevant threat of evil in the world. The only thing I fear is malfunction or bad ammo.
Why isnt that fear? Having a respect for danger is just a fancy way of putting im afriad. As a student in a school, who also knows someone who was in a school shooting, I fear that one day my class will just be another statistic. Im afraid that when i go to a concert i wont make it out alive. I am a highschooler and the first thing i do when i walk my classes is look for places to hide if i am put in a situation where there is a shooter. That is a true relevant threat.
@@lillainmcvay2434 The chances of being accosted on the street and having your life threatened by a meth addled degenerate are probably 1 million times higher than being shot in a classroom.But if, heaven forbid, a school shooting did occur, wouldn't you feel just a little bit better if you knew your teacher was armed and there was a least a chance the threat could be stopped?
@@josecampos4630 hes a moron. Hes using half truths to describe guns as the issue. He never mentions the definition of mass shootings has changed in the us or that most countries definine it differently from each other. He never mentions that violent crime has steadily decreased even though gun ownership has dramatically increased.
A fearful citizen concealed carry for safety has 0 to do with mass shootings. The uprise in media and the first school shooting to be so publicized at the time. Correlation doesn’t equal causation
One piece of information that I think you forgot was the number of serial killers that started to terrorize the United States in the 70s and 80s. There were serial killers before this time, but they became much more publicized during this timeframe as well. We need a much better way of dealing with mental illness instead of making the police and courts responsible for handling it.
Right - there are so many things wrong in his argument. This is the bad thing about ted talks. There is no debate at the end. They originally were good for information - but not any clown can get on and spew nonsense.
But their choice of advertisement that promotes ownership for fear of being helpless or without guns isn’t made any less destructive by that fact. The NRA is pulled between two issues that are incompatible. And the money trail smells of how fear sells.
Fact: You sign up for the NRA you get tons of paperwork telling you of what the house and senate are doing regarding your gun right (mainly trying to take them from you) and asking for more money.(aka. Donations)
In Switzerland all men are required to learn to use a gun. All men between 18 and 34 are given a pistol, rifle and provided training. US homicide rate 7.9-10.5 per 100,000. Switzerland? 0.7 per 100,000. Controlling guns may only make gun violence even worse and leave victims unarmed which is a violation of the Constitution.
A very poorly researched talk. Nowhere in the Zimmerman trial was the "Stand your ground" Law invoked. Zimmerman observed a man looking into people's in a restricted no trespassing area and went to investigate. Zimmerman was then attacked, Zimmerman was not attacking Martin. It was the other way around. Zimmerman was found innocent of murder on a self defense plea. Trying to be armed so as to not be robbed, murdered or raped, isn't an act of fear. It is an act of common sense. Do you make sure your brakes on your car are working because you fear getting into an accident? Or do you make sure your brakes are working as an act basic intelligence and being responsible? No matter where you live, it is being responsible to take actions to try and not be the victim of a crime.
There are two words in “gun violence”. Since almost all of the school shootings were conducted by those who are or recently were students at the school, maybe they should work on students. When I was in HS you could see rifles from inside the school in racks is the back window of trucks. Nobody shot up that school. Their problem doesn’t look like guns it looks like violence-conducted by students!
He makes it clear within the first 20 seconds of his speech that it's not about the guns or the amount of guns that we have but the relationship with a gun whether he's right or not I don't know but at least understand the speech before you make a comment
@@dannybeichler42 this guy was full of s*** and has no idea what he's talking about most of the information he gave is wrong the reason we have so many school shootings has because of gun-free zones and medicated children instead of being parents and teachers we just medicate our children that give us problems instead of actually helping them also over 97% of mass shootings happen in gun-free zones and I don't remember the exact percentage but I think it was over 90% of mass shootings there was a licensed concealed carrier in the building that did not have his gun with him because of the gun-free zone you don't give a shooter a target-rich environment with no threat of retaliation it's time we end gun free zones
japan has 0 guns and 0 gun deaths, whats so hard to understand about that? And in japan suicide is the leading cause of death in ages 20-44 and the number of missing people is very high compared to other countries. They also had 0 mass shootings before guns were invented, instead the government slaughters its own people with spears, swords, ball and chains, and other barbaric and brutal weapons. 2/3rs of the gun deaths number is suicide, over half of homocides are gang related and the rest are shot by people they know. Nearly 99% of these deaths the type of weapon and capacity is irrelevent and to fix it these by passing magazine bans and rifle bans? laws that would criminalize law abiding citezins on a scale we havent ever seen before ever. enforcing these laws would cause more deaths than we have now, and for what to make it slightly harder for someone to get ahold of a piece of plastic and a spring? you dont need any sophisticated technology for murder. how is that a good comprimise, we know its not going to do anyting to prevent any of the 1% of left that these two factors might matter. because we dont even have a gun problem, we only have a gun problem if you assume that we have car accident death problem. most people in the united states dont know anyone who has been murdered with a gun or murdered at all. 2/3s of the 35k gun deaths is suicides and the rest of the homocides are in a few small areas with the same socioeconmic issues. They keep advocating for laws we already have, and say they are pro 2a and also gun owners to draw attention away from the fact that anyone who knows about guns and how the laws work think these proposals are wrong ethically and unconstitutional
In 75 every car or truck had a gun or two in most vehicles, wasn't a big deal to carry a gun down the hall to work on it in industrial arts,teacher wanted to lock it up in his office so it wouldn't get stolen.
Hey Mr. .60 cal machinegun man, when you buy a gun for self-defense the only "line" you cross is that you are taking responsibility for your own safety. The police won't do it as there are numerous court rulings including from the U.S. Supreme Court stating that the police have no duty to protect individuals. Your simplistic "solution" to "gun violence" by taking away fear is simply asinine. 70% of the murders in the U.S. occur in only 5% of it's counties and it sure as hell isn't "fear" from peacable gun owners that is driving all of that.
Credibility went out the window at twelve seconds. .60 caliber machine guns? 0:12. How can the rest of this be taken seriously? Maybe he is referring to an M60 machine gun, but that is .30 caliber, not .60 caliber.
You are wrong about Zimmerman - he didn't use that gun until Travon had attacked and *injured* him. Travon was on top of Zimmerman pounding his head against the concrete sidewalk when Zimmerman pulled his gun and shot Travon in the chest. Zimmerman did follow him, because Travon was looking in people's windows and Zimmerman didn't know him. He thought Travon was casing homes for burglary and he had already called the cops. He was keeping track of Travon until the cops got there, which is what a Neighborhood Watch does. Forty years ago, Zimmerman would be congratulated by the cops and he would not be prosecuted, because he was defending both himself and his neighborhood. That would be true even in liberal California...I know, I was there back then and I've seen this type of issue. I've literally had sheriffs tell me to call them to haul away the body if someone trespassed. In Zimmerman's case - the 911 tape was released and *edited* (which was proven) by the media to whip up rage and the Obama administration proclaimed Zimmerman guilty long before the facts were determined, which is why the media was so shocked when Zimmerman wasn't prosecuted at first - the facts supported self defense. Even when prosecuted, he successfully defended himself and was acquitted. While the media (and you Mr. Farrell) blame Zimmerman for everything - do remember that if Travon had simply walked home and ignored Zimmerman, nothing would have happened. Travon *chose* to attack Zimmerman, initiating the fight. Zimmerman might be an a**hole, but he did not speak to or attack Travon. Travon attacked him in the public commons of the development, from what I've been able to piece together at the behest of his girlfriend egging him on by cell phone. Why she wasn't charged as a co-conspirator or was sued by Zimmerman for contributing to his injuries I don't know. Zimmerman did not initiate the fight. Yes, he was following a suspicious person who appeared to be casing home - I would be watching him also. More and more we cannot depend on the authorities. We used to have peace officers, now we have law enforcement officers, a very different mindset. Officers used to be lauded for keeping the peace, now they have quotas on the number of tickets or arrests per shift. They go looking for any reason to arrest someone - their stats (and bonuses) depend on hitting and exceeding those quotas. Cops will tell you there isn't an official quotas...but there are "expected" number of tickets and arrests. Go below that "expected" level and you will get counseling and bad marks in your file. And you'll get suggestions that being an *law enforcement officer* "may not be in your best interest." And they are swamped by the volume of calls, so when you are told "call the cops and wait for them" - it isn't realistic. Whatever is going to happen will be done long before the cops get there. That has always been the case. Everyone had guns back then (sporting weapons mostly, like shotguns) and if needed they used them. Then came prosecutions for defending yourself, and the gun grabbers starting calling everything an "assault weapon" and people like me starting seeing a pattern that occurred in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, and other countries where the first thing the governments did was disarm their citizens. That way leads to mass murder...by the government. Don't think so? Look at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and others. Which led to the punch back in Oklahoma City. Since then the government has been much more cautious about pissing off American citizens. I hate the loss of life...but it woke up everybody and the government backed off for the most part. Forty years ago we had *much* less government, and people were expected to handle their own security and situation. There were also a lot fewer people, as well as a lot fewer illegals. The drug war started this path of creating victimless crimes with hard penalties, and that has pervaded our government, police, and courts with the mindset that all citizens are guilty of something - they just have to find it. Mr. Farrell, if you want to make the change to a less fearful America - look at the government which is putting it's fear tentacles into everything, as well as bankrupting our country. Fear of being forced into homelessness, the many criminals that now prey on anyone, let along their own communities has forced this situation into existence.
He’s got balls accusing law abiding citizens for causing mass shootings. How about going after all the gang bangers that make up a majority of mass shootings
I’m trying to understand other peoples points of view but I really don’t understand this guy. Self defense is a natural right and people been killing each other forever
I am 70 years old and have studied and been around guns almost my entire life. I have NEVER heard of a .60 caliber machine gun. Hmmmm, it must be a custom built rare model. I think he is mistaken and he meant to say a .50 caliber machine gun. Those are in common use in the military. I challenge his ignorance !! Pleeease, educate me !!
As soon as I heard the .60 caliber line, I knew this was going to be hilariously stupid, biased and full of misinformation (that's the polite way of saying lies).
yeah the founders wrote the 2ND Amendment so we could hunt and shoot paper targets... this dude is clueless. guns have always been about individual and collective self defense. cowboys didnt carry revolvers in the past for hunting... guns have always been marketed for self defense. there are ads from the 1930's advertising machine guns for self defense.
The speaker also made a big deal about the "Stand your ground" Law in the Zimmerman trial. That law was never invoked in the Zimmerman trial. The speaker either had not done proper research or was just lying to try and make a point.
This guy is either ignorant of self protection law or a liar. One does not have the 'right' to shoot some one just because they felt afraid. Florida statute 776.013 'Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.' When some one has you pinned on the sidewalk and is banging your head against the concrete, one can reasonably believe their life is in imminent danger or death or great bodily harm. Zimmerman made some very bad decisions prior to the final incident yes, but was he just 'afraid' or did he have a good reason to believe his live was in great danger? The jury said yes.
I knew this guy was going to be full of s*** as soon as I heard his great experience with guns and shooting a 60 caliber machine gun. As someone who qualified expert on the M60 machine gun and a 50 caliber machine gun I'm not personally aware of a 60 caliber machine gun in the military Arsenal. Lyrics to makes the argument about Americans owning Firearms just because of fear oh, and again I say BS. Americans have owned firearms for protection since the beginning of our country. I would agree a spike in crime does encourage a spike in gun ownership but how does the severe drop in crime over the past 3 decades and the massive increase in gun ownership correlate with that belief oh, simple it doesn't. A huge percentage of gun ownership is multifaceted especially those many of us who own more than one gun. The people in this category yes own guns for sporting purposes, yes own firearms for self-defense, but it's a huge percentage of them also or even primarily on guns for the purposes of Defending Liberty against all enemies foreign and domestic. So, even if you take all the fear oh crime issues out of gun ownership oh, you would still have a nation with the highest gun ownership in the world. Changes nothing. The one group that tends to use a gun and in the process wounds or kills many people out of fear, coincidentally tends to be the one group that assholes like this guy speaking would also give the only access to guns oh, yes the police. Police tend to discharge their weapons out of fear more than any other group. License concealed carry holders such as the guy you mentioned in the video rarely discharged out of fear and an error. As to the politics of gun control and the fear that that inspires, I would argue it's less about fear and more about trust in the past the fairy pro-second Amendment folks have tried to be reasonable and accommodating and given up certain elements of their rights to accommodate the people on the other side of the issue. Unfortunately there's never any compromise the other way, and as a result Second Amendment advocates do not trust the other side. More than 40,000 gun laws on the books hey Tammy as a second amendment advocate that gun control is all about taking more and more and more of my right away. And as most Second Amendment advocates realize but can't seem to get the other side to understand, the vast majority of these laws do no good whatsoever. How does taking the gun away from a law abiding citizen prevent a criminal from pursuing criminal activities? Simple it does not! As long as one side is dead set on eroding or eliminating rights of people on the other side of the argument that distrust or as he says fear will continue.
Good talk overall, but he twisted the Trayvon Martin incident, which was not simply someone shooting someone because they felt a bit scared. It's a sad incident but was twisted a bit to fit this talk's narrative of fear.
He is right with the fact, that propagating fear is very harmful for society. He claims we should associate guns with sports, like toys not defence devices. That we should have a lightly view on them. Apart from my personal conviction, that something as harmful as firearms shouldn‘t be accustomed as completely acceptable sports tools in broad society, I don‘t think his suggested shift of thinking is a solution. Guns don‘t get less deadly by marketing. There is no reason why crimes should decrease by that. It normalizes and even glorifies guns more. I don’t see that being helpful.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. So don't buy a gun and don't go the range and shoot them or go hunting. But don't take that right away from others. Shooting guns, like driving cars fast, is fun. With the added benefit of teaching you how to properly handle a weapon in the rare case you may need it to defend your or someone else's life.
THESE QUOTES ARE HALF TRUTHS ARE LIES .I HAVE A RESPONSABILITY TO PROTECT ME AND MINE FROM THE ANGRY AND GREEDY PEOPLE WHO WONT TO CONTROL ARE DISTROY IN THIS INCREASINGLY EVIL WORLD.
To the narrator... We don't buy guns to take lives. We on firearms to save lives. This means stopping the threat that wants to take a life. Don't quit your day job. And get off the stage. You sound like a fool.
You also had more of the mental ill placed into instiutions 40 years ago and not let out on the street. Also if you seems a threat, they didn't let you run to a lawyer but were locked right up!
@@bernadettelanders7306 have you tried just not being afraid? and the cdc found no correlation [let alone causation] between numbers of firearms owned and rates of crime. the reason you think more people with guns = more fears = more deaths is a good example of the anti gun lobby fear mongering. and theres nothing to suggest more guns = more deaths. for instance in my post above breaking down one of the charts he showed from 1961 to 2017 there was an approximate 2.02% increase in "mass shooting" deaths. where as there was a massive many thousands increase in gun ownership in that time period (ie somewhere between 350 and 600 million firearms owned in the usa today). were more guns = more deaths premise true there should have been a correspondingly vast increase of deaths. there simply hasnt been. there definitely has been an increase, but since so many resources are wasted in anti gun lobby studies trying to pin the blame on guns, its unclear why. but as i said, were the problem directly correlated to guns, the numbers of deaths wouldve vastly increased. also firearms were less highly regulated in the past (there are something like 22,000 gun control laws state and federally across the usa). were access truly the problem, the numbers would be going down with more and more gun control laws. they arent. clearly gun control isnt working. conversely no credible study has ever shown that with a gun ban overall death rates have gone down. simply the number of deaths caused by firearms. in other words a ban simply forces criminals disposed to doing harm to switch to another implement. or as in australia, canada, isreal, mexico, and the uk criminals simply set own illicit firearms factories and manufacture their own fully automatic firearms.
This means nothing. Fear isn't a negative response to a survival situation. Its vital. it increases your adrenaline, decreases blood pressure, and heightens response time. To protect yourself out of fear of being killed is common sense. And is in no way the route to the steady rise in mass shootings.
An interesting perspective. I’d like to see those stats on defensive use of a handgun by women; be interesting to see if it was really ‘marketing’ or a valid response to a largely overlooked segment of the population.
Your ignorance of this subject is astounding. From .60 Cal machine gun to believing the Zimmerman case had anything to do with stand your ground law. Your entire talk was full of innuendo, half truths and flat out incorrect information. Every single fact you have stated is incorrect.
Sadly, 3 years after. We are still dealing with the issue of Gun Violence in this great country. We admit there is a problem, but no one wants to talk about the solution. It's never a good time to talk about guns in America. Not a single time! The best time to talk about Guns reform is NOW! We need to ACT!
We need to either ban assault rifles or put a 6 month waiting period on them. Somebody shouldn’t be able to go into a gun store and buy any gun instantly. We need to ban private sales as well, if people need to sell their firearms then they can go to a gun store and do it. That’s my first step.
@@sosilverraider7119 laughable. How is that going to stop a kid who steals his parents gun? Or a criminal who doesn't give a crap about words on a piece of paper, he likely isn't going to a gun store anyway. Laws exist to keep honest people from getting access to a legal product. I am not against them all but making more isn't going to stop the criminals or the people intent on doing harm to innocents. It's just not.
@@joecoolioness6399 What’s laughable is you saying the same thing everyone else does. The reason for a 6 month waiting period is so someone can’t go buy a gun in the heat of the moment. The reason to ban private sales is, when I sell a gun on the streets it’s not my job to background check whom I’m selling it to, only to make sure they aren’t a minor. You can’t stop all evil you never will, you can’t make people lock their guns up so you can’t stop a kid from taking them. You can use the measures I stated as more insulation to keep guns out of the wrong hands and just to show people we’re trying.
Finally someone realized that we never had mass shootings till we had all these new gun laws 40 years ago. We need to take down all the signs saying it's safe to kill people here No one will shoot back.
A lot of gross mischaracterization with this guy... Additionally I guess he doesn't know of Beto and others like him, who certainly do want to take the guns away.
He pick up some facts and used them out of context. For example the supreme court decision on 2nd amendment and the increase in criminal and violent activity in the 70's. The people wouldn't be "in fear" is the government had provided a good protection against that criminals wave. To add salt to the injury, the same supreme court said that the police work is not top protect the individuals, it is our responsibility. So if it is my responsibility, what he expect us to do?
Fun fact: just because someone went to the military , especially in the marines and army branches, does not make them at all a firearms expert. Some of the dumbest fudd-lore was developed by deployed and national guard guys that ate up anything their OC said to them. A lot of these guys first experience with anything outside of a 22 or shotgun was in the military at 18 year old. Case in point, a Vietnam marine I know thinks the 1911 and the m14 is the best weapon combo because he carried that and was told that and didn’t shoot anything but that. Everyone that is atleast a novice in fire arms knowledge knows those guns are archaic trash in comparison to other guns that were available at the time (let alone what’s available nowadays). Also just because a person went to the military , it doesn’t make them an expert on gun violence and reading /gathering/and orating legitimate statistics.
Yep, what someone carried during Vietnam was the only information i was able to obtain from my godfather over 14 years . the 1911 and a 12ga were his weapons. I think that was just information he told me off hat but I know I asked him a question after that about Vietnam, Vietnam
What also happened in the 1970s was a move to ban handguns, which is probably why the NRA shifted. There is a huge difference between regulating and banning a product. The gun debate changed from regulation to banning a certain gun with the goal to eventually ban all guns. Gun ownership for self defense was just not questioned prior to the 1970s. As far as the leap to take a human life for self defense, that is just a natural human instinct, no one wants to do that, it is just if I have a choice of kill or be killed I chose kill, and I didn’t make that decision the attacker did.
As far as stand your ground laws, the intent is not so that you can follow them and start an altercation and kill somebody. Stand your ground is so you can defend yourself from an attack, in the George Zimmerman situation I feel stand your ground was interpreted incorrectly.
An opaque excuse to justify "Sporting purpose" nonsense. The Mingo County Miner's war was a battle between coal miners and private detectives hired to bust unions by force. The campaign ran from 1912 to 1920. Miners got themselves automatic firearms, rifles and a lot of ammunition. Among the Miner's friends was Mary Harris Jones, whose institutional descendants are huge fans of gun control. In 1920 this peaked in the Battle of Blair Mountain. Mother Jones was involved in this one too. 100 miners died, almost a thousand arrested, out of 10,000 miners. President Harding brought in the Federal Army to put it down. The Athens Tennesee rebellion of 1946. Known as the "Battle of Athens" or the McMinn County war. Veterans, disgusted at vote rigging, took up arms, including some automatic firearms brought back from Europe. The Veterans took City hall, tossed out the crooked politicians and elected GI Partisan League candidates. This all happened long ago. Don't buy the nonsense from this guy.
Nobody with a gun is afraid. There is a huge difference between fear and preparedness. You mention nothing but half truths in this entire talk. You never discuss the change in the us law systems definition of mass shootings nor the differences in that label world wide between countries. Or that violent crime has steadily decreased for the past 60yrs.
"The only way we lose our right o bear arms is if we keep fighting for irresponsible gun ownership". What?! Nobody is fighting for irresponsible gun ownership. The right to bear arms is not about "fun" gun ownership. This guy is all over the place and for someone who says fear is the main problem he sounds pretty fearful of anyone who wants to own a gun for defense.
As soon as he said that during the first 200 years of our history the primary reason people owned guns was for hunting a sport I knew this talk was going to be off target. The Militia Act of 1792 dedicated that every able bodied man from 18 - 45 had to own a firearm. The primary reasons were to protect against foreign invasion, protect against a totalitarical central government, protect against attackes by criminals, animals and hostile Indian tribes. This didn't limit ownership to just the militia (it's the right of The People to keep and bear arms) but the idea that hunting and sport were the primary reasons is nonsense. Today some of these threats are not as prevalent but as far as the exercise of our 2nd Amendment rights are concerned that is immaterial. The problem that needs to be addressed isn't a gun problem but a mental health problem. High school kids use to bring guns to school while participating in shooting clubs. Why weren't these kids shooting up schools in the 1950's?
The law "allowed" Zimmerman to shoot Martin, not because he was afraid, but because Martin attacked him. Martin got Zimmerman down and was trying to kill Zimmerman by bashing his head into the cement when Zimmerman shot him. Florida law got it right and probably would have had the same outcome 40 years ago. Self defense has always been an acceptable plea. What changed in the law was that the burden of proof shifted to the prosecution, where it should have been all along.
Maybe Martin was afraid of an armed grown man stalking him for no reason. A 911 operator told Zimmerman to mind his own business. He stalked and shot a kid because he had the temerity to walk to a convenience store and purchase ice tea and skittles.
@@georgeneuhauser4752 Zimmerman started to turn and walk away when the 911 operator told him to. that is when Martin attacked. You can "maybe" this thing to death. Maybe Martin was looking for a first kill and thought Zimmerman, being a smaller man would be an easy mark. Maybe it was that time a ufo came down and decided to frame Zimmerman but weren't very good at it.
It would be a massive upheaval to change societal stability i.e. mental health, well being, happiness etc, to fit in with gun control. Wouldn't it be easier the other way around.
Do you know there are over 30 million non christians in the USA? Not everyone is christian buddy. And among the christians you will find vast differences in how they practice.
I LOL'd at .60 caliber machine guns, and then you REALLY had me at 'ALLOW responsible gun owners to own guns'. Awfully kind of you to Allow me to exercise my Right. Sorry, but I could only make it through 1/2 of this nonsense... When you clearly know nothing about guns and predicate your POV on giving yourself the Authority to turn Our Rights into a privilege, you undermine any credibility you Might have had on the subject to the point of having none.
Quotes from the Founding Fathers: "A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..." - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790 "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776 "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787 "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787 "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776 "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
I knew this was going to be good when I heard ".60 cal machine gun."
@@gymbro2789 because it doesn’t exist 🙄
He says, we didn't have regular mass shooting in the United States 40 years ago. 40 years ago, machine guns weren't banned. Therefore, we must reinstate machine gun ownership.
Yup, this guy is completely full of shit from the start. “.60 caliber machine gun.” What a liar.
@@phil5569 an m60 dumbass?
@@Geeboogobber an m60 is a 7.62x51 mm or 308cal there is no such thing as a 60 cailber
For a guy who supposedly knows so much about firearms from his time in the Army...this Marine would like to know what "60 caliber machine gun" he mentioned in the first few seconds, did he fire while in the military.
WTF? A .60 cal machine gun?!! I just pulled up his biography... he is a UPS employee that served as a 74D NBC Specialist during the Gulf War era. This rambling, in-cohesive talk is filled with nonsense. Hey Dave -- stick to your day job.
I'm never been in the military, but I dont need to be or have been a damn soldier to tell you that weapon dosent exist. This guy is fraud and a hack.
Jason C he’s about like that so called general who said he was going to fire an AR15 in full semi-automatic
Kind of difficult to take someone seriously, when the stick their foot in their mouth within 11 seconds of the start of the speach. Don't know what he said later than 20 seconds, because I bailed out.
There is the M224 mortar that shoots a 60mm high explosive
The 2nd Amendment was never about hunting. It was intended to keep the power of government in the hands of the people. I liked the 60 cal machine gun too. It must be more powerful than the 50 cal...
It gave to power to malitias not really to the person. It also never really gave the right to have a conceal and carry.
@@lillainmcvay2434 The militia is the people, remember the Minuteman? Farmers, blacksmiths, coppers, bakers, butchers, etc....
at least be smart enough to use Google instead of thinking, not knowing what your talking about. cause its obvious you dont
Actually it was for a well regulated militia in each state to protect the state.
Wrong. The sentence references the people...Not...militias
You lost me at "allow".
It's a right, not a privilege. All the verbal contortions don't change that.
jordan elliott god given right baby. No red blooded American could come to any ones door and demand their guns.
@John Zyp how is self defense a wrong?
NearlyNotANoob a right does not harm others. Self defense only harms a criminal (a harming party)
Just the opposite. Unconsciously started buying guns to save people. To buy a weapon for self defense, the line that was crossed is "I've already decided to save a human life." People who buy a weapon are not doing so with the hopes of killing someone. It's with the hope of deterring violence, saving one's own life, or the life of their loved one.
If you are scrolling through the comments here is a break down:
50% comments: i never heard of a 60 cal, must have been a ghost gun
25% comments: this guy is an idiot here reference the 2nd amendment
10% comments: it is not out of fear...
5% comments: I disagree but he had some good points
4% comments: Long paragraphs about what they believe
3% comments: i agree with him
2% comments: what is he talking about
1% comments: my comment
Sounds like most people get it then.
Martin wasn't unarmed his weapon was his MMA training that he bragged about and the pavement he was smashing the innocent victims head on.
Faulty logic as he didn’t go back to the time of the authorship of the 2A.
This guy definitely doesn't understand the law...
Sounded to me like he was pushing gun registry.
I made it to about 7:07 minutes in and had to turn him off. Stand Your Ground is not about fear or a license to kill, it protects gun owners from radicalized District Attorneys and corrupt Judges.
Military my ass! I'm guessing he spent most of his military expertise as KP specialist?!
No. Permanent Latrine Duty.
I almost agree with you, somewhat...
The reason for firearms ownership in thr first 200 years was not sport or hunting. It was because we made this country by fighting a tyrannical government. Look up the Battle of Athens.
I hope you change your use of Langford's study now that it's been proven completely false.
What else happened in the 60's-70's? Civil rights movement.
Yes, making the decision to take a human life is the whole point. If someone threatens my/my family's life I will take that person's life before they take mine.
I wouldn't call it fear. It's a respect of danger. But why do we fear? Because the is a true and relevant threat of evil in the world. The only thing I fear is malfunction or bad ammo.
Why isnt that fear? Having a respect for danger is just a fancy way of putting im afriad. As a student in a school, who also knows someone who was in a school shooting, I fear that one day my class will just be another statistic. Im afraid that when i go to a concert i wont make it out alive. I am a highschooler and the first thing i do when i walk my classes is look for places to hide if i am put in a situation where there is a shooter. That is a true relevant threat.
@@lillainmcvay2434 The chances of being accosted on the street and having your life threatened by a meth addled degenerate are probably 1 million times higher than being shot in a classroom.But if, heaven forbid, a school shooting did occur, wouldn't you feel just a little bit better if you knew your teacher was armed and there was a least a chance the threat could be stopped?
60 caliber machine guns? Never knew the US Military had 60 caliber machine guns. 50 cals...sure. 30 cal...sure. 5.56mm....sure. But 60 caliber?
I think he is either stupid or he is talking about the experimental round the air force tried.
@@josecampos4630 hes a moron. Hes using half truths to describe guns as the issue. He never mentions the definition of mass shootings has changed in the us or that most countries definine it differently from each other. He never mentions that violent crime has steadily decreased even though gun ownership has dramatically increased.
A fearful citizen concealed carry for safety has 0 to do with mass shootings. The uprise in media and the first school shooting to be so publicized at the time. Correlation doesn’t equal causation
One piece of information that I think you forgot was the number of serial killers that started to terrorize the United States in the 70s and 80s. There were serial killers before this time, but they became much more publicized during this timeframe as well. We need a much better way of dealing with mental illness instead of making the police and courts responsible for handling it.
I'd like to see this guy debate someone who knows something about the topic like Colion Noir.
Nope. Someone else. Anyone else.
it would be like a gorrilla fighting a baby for a lollypop.
Right - there are so many things wrong in his argument. This is the bad thing about ted talks. There is no debate at the end. They originally were good for information - but not any clown can get on and spew nonsense.
The NRA does teach responsibly using and storing your gun.
But their choice of advertisement that promotes ownership for fear of being helpless or without guns isn’t made any less destructive by that fact. The NRA is pulled between two issues that are incompatible. And the money trail smells of how fear sells.
Fact: You sign up for the NRA you get tons of paperwork telling you of what the house and senate are doing regarding your gun right (mainly trying to take them from you) and asking for more money.(aka. Donations)
In Switzerland all men are required to learn to use a gun. All men between 18 and 34 are given a pistol, rifle and provided training. US homicide rate 7.9-10.5 per 100,000. Switzerland? 0.7 per 100,000.
Controlling guns may only make gun violence even worse and leave victims unarmed which is a violation of the Constitution.
A very poorly researched talk.
Nowhere in the Zimmerman trial was the "Stand your ground" Law invoked.
Zimmerman observed a man looking into people's in a restricted no trespassing area and went to investigate.
Zimmerman was then attacked, Zimmerman was not attacking Martin. It was the other way around.
Zimmerman was found innocent of murder on a self defense plea.
Trying to be armed so as to not be robbed, murdered or raped, isn't an act of fear.
It is an act of common sense. Do you make sure your brakes on your car are working because you fear getting into an accident?
Or do you make sure your brakes are working as an act basic intelligence and being responsible?
No matter where you live, it is being responsible to take actions to try and not be the victim of a crime.
.60 caliber machine gun huh? Smells like pog in here
There isn’t such a thing lol.
Obviously an NCO
What a nonsensical use of words...he spent 13 minutes saying nothing.
This was all over the place. The logic is poor at best. The only thing I agreed with as a 2A advocate was: Lets compare the US to the US.
There are two words in “gun violence”. Since almost all of the school shootings were conducted by those who are or recently were students at the school, maybe they should work on students. When I was in HS you could see rifles from inside the school in racks is the back window of trucks. Nobody shot up that school. Their problem doesn’t look like guns it looks like violence-conducted by students!
He makes it clear within the first 20 seconds of his speech that it's not about the guns or the amount of guns that we have but the relationship with a gun whether he's right or not I don't know but at least understand the speech before you make a comment
@@dannybeichler42 this guy was full of s*** and has no idea what he's talking about most of the information he gave is wrong the reason we have so many school shootings has because of gun-free zones and medicated children instead of being parents and teachers we just medicate our children that give us problems instead of actually helping them also over 97% of mass shootings happen in gun-free zones and I don't remember the exact percentage but I think it was over 90% of mass shootings there was a licensed concealed carrier in the building that did not have his gun with him because of the gun-free zone you don't give a shooter a target-rich environment with no threat of retaliation it's time we end gun free zones
japan has 0 guns and 0 gun deaths, whats so hard to understand about that?
And in japan suicide is the leading cause of death in ages 20-44 and the number of missing people is very high compared to other countries. They also had 0 mass shootings before guns were invented, instead the government slaughters its own people with spears, swords, ball and chains, and other barbaric and brutal weapons. 2/3rs of the gun deaths number is suicide, over half of homocides are gang related and the rest are shot by people they know. Nearly 99% of these deaths the type of weapon and capacity is irrelevent and to fix it these by passing magazine bans and rifle bans? laws that would criminalize law abiding citezins on a scale we havent ever seen before ever. enforcing these laws would cause more deaths than we have now, and for what to make it slightly harder for someone to get ahold of a piece of plastic and a spring? you dont need any sophisticated technology for murder. how is that a good comprimise, we know its not going to do anyting to prevent any of the 1% of left that these two factors might matter. because we dont even have a gun problem, we only have a gun problem if you assume that we have car accident death problem. most people in the united states dont know anyone who has been murdered with a gun or murdered at all. 2/3s of the 35k gun deaths is suicides and the rest of the homocides are in a few small areas with the same socioeconmic issues. They keep advocating for laws we already have, and say they are pro 2a and also gun owners to draw attention away from the fact that anyone who knows about guns and how the laws work think these proposals are wrong ethically and unconstitutional
@@dannybeichler42 and 37 people also didn’t watch the video and liked anway
In 75 every car or truck had a gun or two in most vehicles, wasn't a big deal to carry a gun down the hall to work on it in industrial arts,teacher wanted to lock it up in his office so it wouldn't get stolen.
Hey Mr. .60 cal machinegun man, when you buy a gun for self-defense the only "line" you cross is that you are taking responsibility for your own safety. The police won't do it as there are numerous court rulings including from the U.S. Supreme Court stating that the police have no duty to protect individuals. Your simplistic "solution" to "gun violence" by taking away fear is simply asinine. 70% of the murders in the U.S. occur in only 5% of it's counties and it sure as hell isn't "fear" from peacable gun owners that is driving all of that.
Credibility went out the window at twelve seconds.
.60 caliber machine guns? 0:12. How can the rest of this be taken seriously?
Maybe he is referring to an M60 machine gun, but that is .30 caliber, not .60 caliber.
You are wrong about Zimmerman - he didn't use that gun until Travon had attacked and *injured* him. Travon was on top of Zimmerman pounding his head against the concrete sidewalk when Zimmerman pulled his gun and shot Travon in the chest. Zimmerman did follow him, because Travon was looking in people's windows and Zimmerman didn't know him. He thought Travon was casing homes for burglary and he had already called the cops. He was keeping track of Travon until the cops got there, which is what a Neighborhood Watch does.
Forty years ago, Zimmerman would be congratulated by the cops and he would not be prosecuted, because he was defending both himself and his neighborhood. That would be true even in liberal California...I know, I was there back then and I've seen this type of issue. I've literally had sheriffs tell me to call them to haul away the body if someone trespassed.
In Zimmerman's case - the 911 tape was released and *edited* (which was proven) by the media to whip up rage and the Obama administration proclaimed Zimmerman guilty long before the facts were determined, which is why the media was so shocked when Zimmerman wasn't prosecuted at first - the facts supported self defense. Even when prosecuted, he successfully defended himself and was acquitted.
While the media (and you Mr. Farrell) blame Zimmerman for everything - do remember that if Travon had simply walked home and ignored Zimmerman, nothing would have happened. Travon *chose* to attack Zimmerman, initiating the fight. Zimmerman might be an a**hole, but he did not speak to or attack Travon. Travon attacked him in the public commons of the development, from what I've been able to piece together at the behest of his girlfriend egging him on by cell phone. Why she wasn't charged as a co-conspirator or was sued by Zimmerman for contributing to his injuries I don't know. Zimmerman did not initiate the fight. Yes, he was following a suspicious person who appeared to be casing home - I would be watching him also.
More and more we cannot depend on the authorities. We used to have peace officers, now we have law enforcement officers, a very different mindset. Officers used to be lauded for keeping the peace, now they have quotas on the number of tickets or arrests per shift. They go looking for any reason to arrest someone - their stats (and bonuses) depend on hitting and exceeding those quotas. Cops will tell you there isn't an official quotas...but there are "expected" number of tickets and arrests. Go below that "expected" level and you will get counseling and bad marks in your file. And you'll get suggestions that being an *law enforcement officer* "may not be in your best interest." And they are swamped by the volume of calls, so when you are told "call the cops and wait for them" - it isn't realistic. Whatever is going to happen will be done long before the cops get there. That has always been the case. Everyone had guns back then (sporting weapons mostly, like shotguns) and if needed they used them. Then came prosecutions for defending yourself, and the gun grabbers starting calling everything an "assault weapon" and people like me starting seeing a pattern that occurred in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, and other countries where the first thing the governments did was disarm their citizens. That way leads to mass murder...by the government. Don't think so? Look at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and others. Which led to the punch back in Oklahoma City. Since then the government has been much more cautious about pissing off American citizens. I hate the loss of life...but it woke up everybody and the government backed off for the most part.
Forty years ago we had *much* less government, and people were expected to handle their own security and situation. There were also a lot fewer people, as well as a lot fewer illegals. The drug war started this path of creating victimless crimes with hard penalties, and that has pervaded our government, police, and courts with the mindset that all citizens are guilty of something - they just have to find it. Mr. Farrell, if you want to make the change to a less fearful America - look at the government which is putting it's fear tentacles into everything, as well as bankrupting our country. Fear of being forced into homelessness, the many criminals that now prey on anyone, let along their own communities has forced this situation into existence.
this is what the anti gun lobby does, the lie, they misrepresent, and they fearmonger.
Zimmerman should've stayed in the house
Damn, the only thing I was around in the marines was a 50 BMG ! That 60 cal. must be that "ghost gun" everyone is talking about ! yuk yuk
He’s got balls accusing law abiding citizens for causing mass shootings. How about going after all the gang bangers that make up a majority of mass shootings
We passed laws and put up signs to encourage more mass shootings. Remember America didn't used to have mass shootings till we did something.
I’m trying to understand other peoples points of view but I really don’t understand this guy. Self defense is a natural right and people been killing each other forever
I am 70 years old and have studied and been around guns almost my entire life. I have NEVER heard of a .60 caliber machine gun. Hmmmm, it must be a custom built rare model. I think he is mistaken and he meant to say a .50 caliber machine gun. Those are in common use in the military. I challenge his ignorance !! Pleeease, educate me !!
As soon as I heard the .60 caliber line, I knew this was going to be hilariously stupid, biased and full of misinformation (that's the polite way of saying lies).
WOW - He really brought up the Treyvon Martin case. This smells pretty bad.
yeah the founders wrote the 2ND Amendment so we could hunt and shoot paper targets... this dude is clueless. guns have always been about individual and collective self defense.
cowboys didnt carry revolvers in the past for hunting... guns have always been marketed for self defense. there are ads from the 1930's advertising machine guns for self defense.
So he implies that a person has no right to self defense ? I don't agree, self defense is a natural or God given right..
What is a .60 caliber machine gun?
a machine gun that fires a .308 round
@@benbrown7146 That's a .30 caliber round...
I like how he believes he’s the first one to think about this.
I read the corners report on Trayvon Martin said he was on top of George Zimmerman.
How is that not self-defense!!!
The speaker also made a big deal about the "Stand your ground" Law in the Zimmerman trial. That law was never invoked in the Zimmerman trial.
The speaker either had not done proper research or was just lying to try and make a point.
@@stevegilbert8486 he clearly has an anti gun stance, he was poorly trying to hide it.
There was a court case it was the self defense. Trayvon stated before he attacked Zimmerman he wanted to kill him because he thought he was gay.
Will I use a gun to take a life or I will lie down and die as a victim of violence.
This guy is either ignorant of self protection law or a liar. One does not have the 'right' to shoot some one just because they felt afraid. Florida statute 776.013 'Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.' When some one has you pinned on the sidewalk and is banging your head against the concrete, one can reasonably believe their life is in imminent danger or death or great bodily harm. Zimmerman made some very bad decisions prior to the final incident yes, but was he just 'afraid' or did he have a good reason to believe his live was in great danger? The jury said yes.
I knew this guy was going to be full of s*** as soon as I heard his great experience with guns and shooting a 60 caliber machine gun. As someone who qualified expert on the M60 machine gun and a 50 caliber machine gun I'm not personally aware of a 60 caliber machine gun in the military Arsenal. Lyrics to makes the argument about Americans owning Firearms just because of fear oh, and again I say BS. Americans have owned firearms for protection since the beginning of our country. I would agree a spike in crime does encourage a spike in gun ownership but how does the severe drop in crime over the past 3 decades and the massive increase in gun ownership correlate with that belief oh, simple it doesn't. A huge percentage of gun ownership is multifaceted especially those many of us who own more than one gun. The people in this category yes own guns for sporting purposes, yes own firearms for self-defense, but it's a huge percentage of them also or even primarily on guns for the purposes of Defending Liberty against all enemies foreign and domestic. So, even if you take all the fear oh crime issues out of gun ownership oh, you would still have a nation with the highest gun ownership in the world. Changes nothing. The one group that tends to use a gun and in the process wounds or kills many people out of fear, coincidentally tends to be the one group that assholes like this guy speaking would also give the only access to guns oh, yes the police. Police tend to discharge their weapons out of fear more than any other group. License concealed carry holders such as the guy you mentioned in the video rarely discharged out of fear and an error.
As to the politics of gun control and the fear that that inspires, I would argue it's less about fear and more about trust in the past the fairy pro-second Amendment folks have tried to be reasonable and accommodating and given up certain elements of their rights to accommodate the people on the other side of the issue. Unfortunately there's never any compromise the other way, and as a result Second Amendment advocates do not trust the other side. More than 40,000 gun laws on the books hey Tammy as a second amendment advocate that gun control is all about taking more and more and more of my right away. And as most Second Amendment advocates realize but can't seem to get the other side to understand, the vast majority of these laws do no good whatsoever. How does taking the gun away from a law abiding citizen prevent a criminal from pursuing criminal activities? Simple it does not! As long as one side is dead set on eroding or eliminating rights of people on the other side of the argument that distrust or as he says fear will continue.
Good talk overall, but he twisted the Trayvon Martin incident, which was not simply someone shooting someone because they felt a bit scared. It's a sad incident but was twisted a bit to fit this talk's narrative of fear.
The whole talk was twisted to push the anti gun narrative.
I believe he deliberately miss told what happened to fit his anti gun agenda.
The whole talk was absolute nonsense.
News flash , our Individual Liberties are not government’s to regulate.
When John Hancock signed the Declaration of Independence, he also crossed those two points you mentioned. And he wasn’t fearful.
He is right with the fact, that propagating fear is very harmful for society.
He claims we should associate guns with sports, like toys not defence devices. That we should have a lightly view on them.
Apart from my personal conviction, that something as harmful as firearms shouldn‘t be accustomed as completely acceptable sports tools in broad society, I don‘t think his suggested shift of thinking is a solution.
Guns don‘t get less deadly by marketing.
There is no reason why crimes should decrease by that.
It normalizes and even glorifies guns more.
I don’t see that being helpful.
That is Democrats strategy.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. So don't buy a gun and don't go the range and shoot them or go hunting. But don't take that right away from others. Shooting guns, like driving cars fast, is fun. With the added benefit of teaching you how to properly handle a weapon in the rare case you may need it to defend your or someone else's life.
That was a hell of a spin.
THESE QUOTES ARE HALF TRUTHS ARE LIES .I HAVE A RESPONSABILITY TO PROTECT ME AND MINE FROM THE ANGRY AND GREEDY PEOPLE WHO WONT TO CONTROL ARE DISTROY IN THIS INCREASINGLY EVIL WORLD.
To the narrator...
We don't buy guns to take lives. We on firearms to save lives. This means stopping the threat that wants to take a life. Don't quit your day job. And get off the stage. You sound like a fool.
Every time someone's life is saved by firing a gun at somebody Attacking it's considered gun violence.
You also had more of the mental ill placed into instiutions 40 years ago and not let out on the street. Also if you seems a threat, they didn't let you run to a lawyer but were locked right up!
Is it fear? Seems very simple. When did gun control begin? Was there a reason to be concerned about gun control? Yes.
Having a gun for self protection is about preservation of life from those whom would take it.
..... the end.
@@ziraprod6090 exactly , so then another fearful American is dead.
@@bernadettelanders7306 well maybe if said "fearful american" didnt go around attacking people.................just sayin.
@@thurin84 more fear, more people with guns = more deaths. Just my opinion from living in a country where your neighbours don’t have guns.
@@bernadettelanders7306 have you tried just not being afraid? and the cdc found no correlation [let alone causation] between numbers of firearms owned and rates of crime. the reason you think more people with guns = more fears = more deaths is a good example of the anti gun lobby fear mongering.
and theres nothing to suggest more guns = more deaths.
for instance in my post above breaking down one of the charts he showed from 1961 to 2017 there was an approximate 2.02% increase in "mass shooting" deaths. where as there was a massive many thousands increase in gun ownership in that time period (ie somewhere between 350 and 600 million firearms owned in the usa today). were more guns = more deaths premise true there should have been a correspondingly vast increase of deaths. there simply hasnt been. there definitely has been an increase, but since so many resources are wasted in anti gun lobby studies trying to pin the blame on guns, its unclear why. but as i said, were the problem directly correlated to guns, the numbers of deaths wouldve vastly increased. also firearms were less highly regulated in the past (there are something like 22,000 gun control laws state and federally across the usa). were access truly the problem, the numbers would be going down with more and more gun control laws. they arent. clearly gun control isnt working.
conversely no credible study has ever shown that with a gun ban overall death rates have gone down. simply the number of deaths caused by firearms. in other words a ban simply forces criminals disposed to doing harm to switch to another implement. or as in australia, canada, isreal, mexico, and the uk criminals simply set own illicit firearms factories and manufacture their own fully automatic firearms.
This means nothing. Fear isn't a negative response to a survival situation. Its vital. it increases your adrenaline, decreases blood pressure, and heightens response time. To protect yourself out of fear of being killed is common sense. And is in no way the route to the steady rise in mass shootings.
An interesting perspective. I’d like to see those stats on defensive use of a handgun by women; be interesting to see if it was really ‘marketing’ or a valid response to a largely overlooked segment of the population.
Everyone who stops a murder with a gun is listed as gun violence.
Your ignorance of this subject is astounding. From .60 Cal machine gun to believing the Zimmerman case had anything to do with stand your ground law. Your entire talk was full of innuendo, half truths and flat out incorrect information. Every single fact you have stated is incorrect.
Sadly, 3 years after. We are still dealing with the issue of Gun Violence in this great country. We admit there is a problem, but no one wants to talk about the solution.
It's never a good time to talk about guns in America. Not a single time!
The best time to talk about Guns reform is NOW! We need to ACT!
You still think this is a great country? Compared to what Mexico?
We need to either ban assault rifles or put a 6 month waiting period on them. Somebody shouldn’t be able to go into a gun store and buy any gun instantly. We need to ban private sales as well, if people need to sell their firearms then they can go to a gun store and do it. That’s my first step.
@@sosilverraider7119 laughable. How is that going to stop a kid who steals his parents gun? Or a criminal who doesn't give a crap about words on a piece of paper, he likely isn't going to a gun store anyway. Laws exist to keep honest people from getting access to a legal product. I am not against them all but making more isn't going to stop the criminals or the people intent on doing harm to innocents. It's just not.
@@joecoolioness6399 What’s laughable is you saying the same thing everyone else does. The reason for a 6 month waiting period is so someone can’t go buy a gun in the heat of the moment. The reason to ban private sales is, when I sell a gun on the streets it’s not my job to background check whom I’m selling it to, only to make sure they aren’t a minor. You can’t stop all evil you never will, you can’t make people lock their guns up so you can’t stop a kid from taking them. You can use the measures I stated as more insulation to keep guns out of the wrong hands and just to show people we’re trying.
Finally someone realized that we never had mass shootings till we had all these new gun laws 40 years ago. We need to take down all the signs saying it's safe to kill people here No one will shoot back.
This guy will be happier in heaven.
And so deep down. You really are afraid of being shot.
You assume he's going there.
A lot of gross mischaracterization with this guy... Additionally I guess he doesn't know of Beto and others like him, who certainly do want to take the guns away.
I wish this dude attempted to make sense.
Never heard someone talk so much and say so little
This is quite a spin.
He pick up some facts and used them out of context. For example the supreme court decision on 2nd amendment and the increase in criminal and violent activity in the 70's. The people wouldn't be "in fear" is the government had provided a good protection against that criminals wave. To add salt to the injury, the same supreme court said that the police work is not top protect the individuals, it is our responsibility. So if it is my responsibility, what he expect us to do?
Yep. And the Treyvon Martin case.
Fun fact: just because someone went to the military , especially in the marines and army branches, does not make them at all a firearms expert. Some of the dumbest fudd-lore was developed by deployed and national guard guys that ate up anything their OC said to them. A lot of these guys first experience with anything outside of a 22 or shotgun was in the military at 18 year old.
Case in point, a Vietnam marine I know thinks the 1911 and the m14 is the best weapon combo because he carried that and was told that and didn’t shoot anything but that. Everyone that is atleast a novice in fire arms knowledge knows those guns are archaic trash in comparison to other guns that were available at the time (let alone what’s available nowadays).
Also just because a person went to the military , it doesn’t make them an expert on gun violence and reading /gathering/and orating legitimate statistics.
Yep, what someone carried during Vietnam was the only information i was able to obtain from my godfather over 14 years .
the 1911 and a 12ga were his weapons. I think that was just information he told me off hat but I know I asked him a question after that about Vietnam, Vietnam
Criminals cross the line everyday. I’d prefer the innocent survive the encounter instead.
He said nothing constructive
What also happened in the 1970s was a move to ban handguns, which is probably why the NRA shifted. There is a huge difference between regulating and banning a product. The gun debate changed from regulation to banning a certain gun with the goal to eventually ban all guns. Gun ownership for self defense was just not questioned prior to the 1970s. As far as the leap to take a human life for self defense, that is just a natural human instinct, no one wants to do that, it is just if I have a choice of kill or be killed I chose kill, and I didn’t make that decision the attacker did.
No state allows someone to shoot another person because they are afraid of them.
Every state calls it self defense. Sadly today most self defense is reported as gunviolence.
Martin was trying to wrest the gun from Zimmerman. Thus, he was armed. In the ensuing struggle, one or the other was going to get shot.
As far as stand your ground laws, the intent is not so that you can follow them and start an altercation and kill somebody. Stand your ground is so you can defend yourself from an attack, in the George Zimmerman situation I feel stand your ground was interpreted incorrectly.
An opaque excuse to justify "Sporting purpose" nonsense.
The Mingo County Miner's war was a battle between coal miners and private detectives hired to bust unions by force. The campaign ran from 1912 to 1920. Miners got themselves automatic firearms, rifles and a lot of ammunition. Among the Miner's friends was Mary Harris Jones, whose institutional descendants are huge fans of gun control.
In 1920 this peaked in the Battle of Blair Mountain. Mother Jones was involved in this one too. 100 miners died, almost a thousand arrested, out of 10,000 miners. President Harding brought in the Federal Army to put it down.
The Athens Tennesee rebellion of 1946. Known as the "Battle of Athens" or the McMinn County war. Veterans, disgusted at vote rigging, took up arms, including some automatic firearms brought back from Europe. The Veterans took City hall, tossed out the crooked politicians and elected GI Partisan League candidates.
This all happened long ago. Don't buy the nonsense from this guy.
Is it just me or does this guy, who is supposed to be a fellow vet, not fully understand the 2nd Amendment.
Wow with FDR it was ww2. Don’t fear fight the axis powers.
Stopped watching at .60 cal machine gun
What's a sixty caliber machine gun? I listened twice thinking he might have said "fifty caliber" but it still sounded like "sixty".
1920? Check your facts. This guy is off his rocker.
Defend yourself against elementary school students.
We never had a need to defend ourselves from school students when they knew Armed patrol was keeping everyone safe.
Didn’t we used to have legal duels when we got mad at each other
Nobody with a gun is afraid. There is a huge difference between fear and preparedness. You mention nothing but half truths in this entire talk. You never discuss the change in the us law systems definition of mass shootings nor the differences in that label world wide between countries. Or that violent crime has steadily decreased for the past 60yrs.
"The only way we lose our right o bear arms is if we keep fighting for irresponsible gun ownership". What?! Nobody is fighting for irresponsible gun ownership. The right to bear arms is not about "fun" gun ownership. This guy is all over the place and for someone who says fear is the main problem he sounds pretty fearful of anyone who wants to own a gun for defense.
As soon as he said that during the first 200 years of our history the primary reason people owned guns was for hunting a sport I knew this talk was going to be off target. The Militia Act of 1792 dedicated that every able bodied man from 18 - 45 had to own a firearm. The primary reasons were to protect against foreign invasion, protect against a totalitarical central government, protect against attackes by criminals, animals and hostile Indian tribes. This didn't limit ownership to just the militia (it's the right of The People to keep and bear arms) but the idea that hunting and sport were the primary reasons is nonsense. Today some of these threats are not as prevalent but as far as the exercise of our 2nd Amendment rights are concerned that is immaterial. The problem that needs to be addressed isn't a gun problem but a mental health problem. High school kids use to bring guns to school while participating in shooting clubs. Why weren't these kids shooting up schools in the 1950's?
The law "allowed" Zimmerman to shoot Martin, not because he was afraid, but because Martin attacked him. Martin got Zimmerman down and was trying to kill Zimmerman by bashing his head into the cement when Zimmerman shot him. Florida law got it right and probably would have had the same outcome 40 years ago. Self defense has always been an acceptable plea. What changed in the law was that the burden of proof shifted to the prosecution, where it should have been all along.
Maybe Martin was afraid of an armed grown man stalking him for no reason. A 911 operator told Zimmerman to mind his own business. He stalked and shot a kid because he had the temerity to walk to a convenience store and purchase ice tea and skittles.
@@georgeneuhauser4752 Zimmerman started to turn and walk away when the 911 operator told him to. that is when Martin attacked.
You can "maybe" this thing to death. Maybe Martin was looking for a first kill and thought Zimmerman, being a smaller man would be an easy mark.
Maybe it was that time a ufo came down and decided to frame Zimmerman but weren't very good at it.
It would be a massive upheaval to change societal stability i.e. mental health, well being, happiness etc, to fit in with gun control. Wouldn't it be easier the other way around.
This man really said in the first 200 years of this country mass shootings were not the “norm”
You immediately lost my trust when you stated you shot a 60 caliber machine gun in the military...
You lost me at "allow" responsible gun owners to own guns. I don't need anyone's permission. I choose to live free.
I've watched this 3 times and still can't fathom how wrong the speaker is on so many things. It almost rises to satire.
This dude's a nut. Blaming personal protection and fear on people getting shot instead of the people who make bad decisions and get shot.
After reading these comments, I can see our problem is only going to get worse.
1) Citizens should always talk about Jesus Christ's doctrine.
2) Citizens should talk about firearms for home defense.
Do you know there are over 30 million non christians in the USA? Not everyone is christian buddy. And among the christians you will find vast differences in how they practice.
I LOL'd at .60 caliber machine guns, and then you REALLY had me at 'ALLOW responsible gun owners to own guns'. Awfully kind of you to Allow me to exercise my Right. Sorry, but I could only make it through 1/2 of this nonsense... When you clearly know nothing about guns and predicate your POV on giving yourself the Authority to turn Our Rights into a privilege, you undermine any credibility you Might have had on the subject to the point of having none.
Shooting someone is not the same as killing someone.
Yes but it's still reported as gun violence even if it's self defense against a murderer.
LOL! The 60 cal also fires a 15.24 mm. Keep treating the symptom and not the illness David, you're just making the gun market mo betta.
The speaker obviously did not watch the George Zimmerman trial.
I tell you what the problem is, we need GOD back in this country!
Kids don't fight anymore and therefore don't learn how to defend themselves.
Quotes from the Founding Fathers:
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
Wow. Almost everything you claimed and insinuated about Zimmerman is a lie.
What the hell is 60 caliber machine gun? Does he mean .50 cal or maybe M60?
Service in the armed forces, does not a firearms expert make.
Actually thought he was going in the right direction until he started blaming the NRA and it all went downhill from there.
We don't have guns because the deer were coming
Zimmerman was charged with murder. And was attacked. You left out the civil rights movement, and the struggle for African American against lynching.