Star Trek: Cardassian Galor Class | Ship Breakdown
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- Spacedock breaks down the venerable Galor Class Destroyers of the Cardassian Union.
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You & zefilms did only one sto (star trek online ) ship, that was over a week ago and it was the Vo'devwl class but I was hoping for the Ra'nodaire class support carrier. So was this collaboration with zefilms & cryptic a one time deal or what?
Have you considered doing a series on ships from Eve/Eve Echoes?
@Robin The God it's not it being justified, but it's hard to argue with your assessment.
Will you do an episode about the Star Trek Doomsday Machine/Planet Killer?
Cardassian ships not using torpedos makes sense, if you think about the constant shortage on ressources the Union experiences.
I think that's why Quark always kept a healthy stock of Kanar and Yamok Sauce. You never know when they might be hard to come by, later.
That, and we've never ever seen a Galor fire a torpedo, haha
@@skyborne80 This is NOT true!.....
@@ivaylomladenov3185 Pretty sure it is true. We've seen Cardassian weapon platforms fire torpedoes, but name me the episode where a Galor fires a torpedo. Maybe they did and I forgot, but name the episode.
@@skyborne80 Well....., i was wrong, - you were right,..... - It turned out,..... what I saw on the screen (all those years ago) wasn't torpedoes that come from the Galors, - but some kind of "cardassian pulse beams".....
I apologize for my mistake, - I am big enough to admit when i make a mistake, - (or don't remember correctly)!..... :)
Watching DS9, O'Brien says that two Galor-class warships are entering orbit, then I get the video notification. You've certainly got good timing.
This video will prepare you
The Cardassians are the Italy of WW2 of the Star Trek Universe.
They wanted an empire ans chose a weak power to bully (Ethiopia). They started a major war to reclaim their lost glory. Latched on to a stronger power for support. Then changed sides at the end.
Also, they are a 2nd or 3rd rate power trying to be a 1st rate power even though they don't have the economy for it.
Fascist Italy i would say, it's especially their alliance with the Dominion that give them a similar role. But at least their weapons were not that obsolete in the Dominion war.
@@Viguier89 To be fair their navy and later fighter aircraft were pretty good. It's the tanks that were the main meme.
i drew more parallel to the ottomans, Andorrans are more like Italy in my opinion
I've always liked Cardassians as a primary villain that everyone loved to hate. Their government reminded me of a petty dictatorship that ended up acquiring a lot of decent military hardware. Except that they were completely surrounded by Alpha Quadrant superpowers...
I've always thought of them as Nazi Germany and the devout Bajorans as jews.
One of my favorite villains is Gul Dukat, Marc Alaimo one of most underrated actors in Star Trek franchise.
Agreed! He also played the very first Cardassian Gul to appear in Next Generation, and one of the first Romulans to show up in that series.
i woulden't call him underratted in Trek perhaps in stuff outside of trek.
He’s only underrated because of the cast of DS9. How could you not be by Rene Auberjonois and Avery Brooks? I agree he is fantastic in DS9.
Because he had Odo and Garak appearing more often.
I wouldn’t say “underrated.” It’s pretty much a consensus Alaimo/Dukat was one of the top 5 villains in Trek lore
Love the Galor class. The look, the power, the incompetence. Just a fantastic ship for the story
2:08 best shot ever of a ship to ship battle. a cardassian ship rapid fire by galaxy class phaser erray multiple time
The Cardassian Union definitely has some of the most graceful spacecraft in Star Trek, especially their _Galor_-class.
What I liked about the Galor class is the lack of vulnerable nacelles that were a mainstay of many other races design paradigms.
If it wasn't for the hooded bridge at the front being an obvious target it would have made a robust design.
As for the maneuverability though, weren't they supposed to be less maneuverable than Federation and Klingon ships and that was a weakness that was exploited?
As for power level though, they were badly outclassed until the Dominion retrofitted them.
A telling example is in the first episode of TNG to introduce the Cardassians - *The Wounded.* It's the one where O'Brien's old Captain is attacking Cardassian ships and the Enterprise-D has to team up with Gul Dukat (or his twin brother…) to stop him.
It was a *Nebula class ship* that was going on the rampage and it *easily destroyed a Galor class ship* from far outside the Galor class ships range, something the Cardassians on the Enterprise were _very suprised and concerned about._
[Hmm, maybe the lack of torpedoes was a more limiting factor when not in a armada with other torpedo equipped species].
Back then the Cardassians were just outclassed, it was Dominion refits that made them a threat.
In fact if you look at the episode chronology it was soon after Wolf 359, so perhaps the Cardassians were making aggressive moves because they had just seen the Federation get stomped by the Borg and perhaps thought StarFleet was weakened - both by the loss of ships and just that they assumed that if the Borg could do that, maybe they had a chance… not realising that the Borg were on a whole another power level to them.
If only it hadn't been the great diplomat and peacemaker Picard in command, there could have been a second Federation Cardassian war right then, and even with the depleted numbers StarFleet would have just slaughtered them, solving a lot of long term headaches that would come back to haunt them when the Dominion turned up.
Instead a instant solution to the Bajoran occupation and the Marquis problem if the Cardassians lost to the Federation and the Feds had pushed for unconditional surrender (which is a good option for them, the Feds have a reputation for ethical behaviour, so surrendering to them is not as bad as surrendering to other powers… like the Klingons).
And Picard (and especially Worf) had just helped install Gawron as Klingon Chancellor, so he owed the Federation a favour and may have joined in the war as Allies under the Khitomer accords.
It would have been a good move on Gawron's part, as a good war would cement his power, and it would help strengthen the alliance.
Star Trek … alternate history hub.
The Galor was the only ship that looked like it was built like a tank and it did feel as if the Defiant design cribbed some ideas from it with the inboard nacelles and took it further by lacking a saucer section completely.
Me: Oh boy the Galor class is one of my favourite ships in Star Trek. There’s no way this won’t be anything but a loving tribute to this easily upgraded multi-mission capable ship (holds Eaglemoss model)
Spacedock: the galor class was a paper ship that the federation squashed like insects.
Me: 😶
lightly armoured
took fire from 3 klingons ships and was still intact...
@@boobah5643 there is also the defiant
spacedock is just the fascist propaganda arm of the tyrannical empire
The galor was plagued by its design that stressed Wolfpack tactics. See Starfleet figured a ship would likely be surrounded and designed their weapons and weapon arcs to compensate for this. Look at a Starfleet ship and you’ll see weapons emplacements all around it, the idea here is your going to have a weapon array or emitter pointing at you no matter where you try to hit. Starfleet ships are however like cardassian ships lightly armored and rely mainly on shielding for protection. As we saw with the defiant and other starfleet ships they did eventually add armor as well. Chances are the old Galor class ships remained in service far longer then intended due to the damage sustained by Cardassia and the inability of the government to replace them on time. I imagine that post dominion war Cardassia shrunk back to a 3rd rate power and probably relied on the federation equivalent of the Marshall plan to get back off its knees. In that case military spending takes a back seat to getting trade and commerce going once more
This is my favorite alien ship in all of Star Trek.
Its my second. I like the B'rell bird of prey slightly more. But this one is beautiful too
@Zerebrat Eightyseven good choice, she's beautiful too
I didn't like the hull designs for their ships, but I did like how Cardissian disruptor pistols/rifles and computer panels looked. Their language characters are also kind of cool.
For me, it's always gonna be the Klingon bird of prey. They're just so well designed. Stealthy, agile, and purely for combat.
Non-Star Fleet ships in Star Trek always seemed more interesting to me and I agree with you that the Galor is just wonderful.
Was so stoked in Star Trek online when after unlocking what seemed like a million effin’ prize boxes I finally got my Galor Class Cruiser!!! I think it was either a 1% or .1% drop chance but I immediately used some special currency to fit all 8 hard points with the Spiral wave cannons and I had unlocked so many crew packs that I could fit nearly the entire ship out with dozens of epic and rare Cardassian crew members!! Those were good times 😌
Very pleased to see the galor get some love. Always thought this was one of the most interesting ships in Trek. Nice one!
Torpedoes are also relatively resource intensive to prodpowe and the Cardassian Union occupies the least resource rich territory of the major Alpha and Beta Quadrant powets.
Since there seems to be a bit of a conflict between the sizes of the Galor-class(371.88 meters or 481 meters), I prefer to go with the original filming size(481m long) since it also looks pretty similar in size to the Vor'cha and manages to look big enough next to the Dominion's starships. It may also be significantly larger since you can tell that the tailpiece for the Galor is identical to the beak of the Vor'cha, so if you match those up, the Galor is significantly larger than the Klingon cruiser.
Lars Fuchs The longer ship would be more the Keldon class, to my way of thinking. It’s listed as being the same overall dimensions as the Gator class, but referred to as ‘bigger’. They never get their numbers right! ;)
Watching this is so much better than watching anything after Star Trek's Voyager
Always liked the fish shape of those ships.
Anyone remember back when the Galor was said to be armed with Compressor Beams? This was before the Spiral Wave Disruptor was introduced.
Maybe I heard this somewhere or maybe I just made it up in my head years ago, but I always thought the Galor class and the Cardassian Symbol were both references to a fish-like creature on Cardassia similar to a Manta Ray on Earth. It would be like if the US used space ships shaped like Eagles, to make a comparison.
Ahh.. the T-72 main battle tank of Star Trek.. I love this ship. I've got a model in my room, I should build another two, to keep it accurate.
Always loved the cardassians in ds9. Love this ship to and it’s one of my go to in sto.
Omg I was just commenting about how stoked I was after having to open 2-300 plus boxes to finally get the drop! Idk if you can get them whenever you want now but back in the OG STO it was like a less than 1% chance of a drop when opening the boxes
@@davidrossi5096 yeah I got it back during the caradssian lock box. Don't know how much I spent on keys to open them when it came out lol but it was alot.
@@LMG1792 bro I’ll be honest cause back then I was young and selling a lot of pot with disposable income etc. but I must’ve blown at least $200 on keys 😓😂😂😂 respect to you though brother cause it was worth every penny!
@@davidrossi5096 whats worse is the amount I spent to get the bug ship when it first came out. Lord I still kick myself for how stupid I was for that one lol. But what ya gonna do
I love the Galor class, it is brutally simple in design to make up for the Cardassian technological shortcomings, and in doing so it became very effective for the Cardassian Union.
I’ve always felt the ship was used backwards, as it always seemed the smaller end should be the front, but the probably figured it would be to reminiscent of the front of Klingon battlecruisers. The much of the front rim even is lit up just like engines, only a different color.
I also thought that the Cardassians should have had weak shields, at least at the start, but have massive amounts of energy resistant armor, as it would have mixed things up a bit, and it would fit well to explain why the front of their ships tended to be huge, as well as their basic tactics needed to employ the main weapon in a fight. Also they should have had the main, and most powerful weapon only useful against large and/or slow moving targets, for which it’s other weapons would be used.
One thing that always strikes me when watching these breakdowns, all these ships have large number of weapons, but on a Trek, seeing more than a single cannon or torpedo launcher used at a time is extremely rare. Even in big slugfests the Enterprise almost exclusively uses a single phaser array, and don’t get me started on the how an enemy vessel can be pummeling the Enterprise, so the Enterprise fires a single phaser blast at the enemy, then stop firing until they’ve evaluated what sort of damage it did.
John Patz for me the best space battle was probably in nemesis. There you saw the enterprise let loose on weapons As for the cardassian ships I assume it would be easier to develop strong shields given the resource shortage then the materials it would take to make strong hull.
>Enterprise fires a single phaser blast at the enemy, then stop firing until they’ve evaluated what sort of damage it did.
That drives me nutty. We have Data on one side, analyzing how they reduced enemy shields by 10.24%. On the other side, we have a drooling Klingon with a massive war boner smashing the fire button as fast as he can. C'mon Federation, get your head in the game.
@john patz I always assumed the reason they only fire one array at a time is because phasers draw power from a single source, the warp core. So one phaser concentrates that power, multiple spread it out. We typically only see multiple arrays engaged when the Federation vessels is moving and needs to switch arrays to keep the enemy in their firing arc (that clip Spacedock used in this video of a Galaxy broadsiding a Galor) or in situations like Nemesis where the Big E was using phaser fire to locate a cloaked ship.
Aaahhh, the Federation.
Superior science and technology. Superior personal freedoms within its borders.
_But absolutely everything else is utter garbage._
Fantastic video, really well discussed and the historical context along with it really works to tell this ships designs story in the Star Trek Universe. Very well done!
Always loved these ships. Must be top ten for me of all SciFi
Another excellent video good sir!
always liked this ships,
just because they remind me of horseshoe crabs..
hey, i never said i was complicated..
real limulus hours
wow short and to the point i love it
The Galor is an old favourite. Thank you, Spacedock.
I'll be honest, the Galor was always one of my favourite alien ships in Star Trek. The fact that it's pretty decent in Star Trek Online is a bonus.
Thank you for this amazing video! Keep up the hard work
Lol. Loved the utilities description! Those damn Thorun fields. Hard to mow
Thanks for the content.
Was hoping for a discussion on how the ship functions, specifically the warp engines. This was a very unique TNG era ship that you should revisit.
1:11 “The Galor class carries a predominantly forward-facing asshole of weapons.”
No, he said arsenal. Maybe you're just not used to accents.
@@ajzebadua I know; I just thought it was funny :p
@@ajzebadua whooosh! sorry couldn't resist ;)
This ship does not get enough love , always looked Egyptian to me ! .
Like Cardassians themselves it looks like a cobra, or at least an asp.
Damn great content!
always liked the Galor class war ships
Great video!
You can also say that this ship also reflects the Cardassians arrogance just like Gul Dukat himself.
Galor class with the Breen and Dominion weapons, it was a terror to say the least.
Definitely a favourite!
I love Cardassian ships. Given the Union's limited resources and lagging technology, I think they acquitted themselves well in the effort to be a major Alpha Quadrant power.
Oooh, is that Star Trek Online's Cardassian battle suite I hear? Perfect music for a great video.
Hi Spacedock love your channel and what you talk about, few people in TH-cam make videos of the same nature as yours and I love them, could I ask you If you have ever tought about getting into naval/space doctrine and how it affects the purpose and desing of different starships and their variants or have you tought about making a series about the diverse naval/space doctrine. (English is not my primary languaje, so I apologize for grammatical errors in advance)
Again, love your stuff and take care
I just realize the model is basically a Klingon Vor'cha Cruiser but backwards.
nah the klingon vessel is backward
One of my favorite ships. I have the AMT model and my Cardassian character uses one in Star Trek Online.
That's what I love about Deep Space Nine. We really get into the nitty gritty of how this future works.
Thank you
Would love to see an episode on the Keldon class!
Fine script, acting, and editing in this video.
Brings back memories of playing the ‘Bridge Commander’ single-player campaign. “Another two Galors? Ho-hum...” 😄
I really like the look of this ship.
2:12 I feel bad every time I see that Galor-class ship getting decimated by two Galaxy's. One of my favorite battle scenes in all of Star Trek! The other is the Melbourne getting its saucer bisected by the Borg Cube at Wolf 359, in "Emissary"!
Wolf 359 people always ask me about that battle. That’s the one where according to the doctors who saved me I did die. My ship was there the Miranda class USS Normandy. We were in the second wave with Sisko, we were coming off a strafing run when we saw the Saratoga get grabbed. We tried to assist and blow the borgs emitter. We caught 2 shield dampening charges and a phaser shot gutted our port Nacelle. We were forced to withdraw. We made one final pass where I tried to ram the cube, the cube surgically blew off our good nacelle then blew out our impulse engines. All hell broke loose on the bridge when fired started and conduits blew. The one under my chair was the worst. It blew up and pinned me under structure that crashed down. The medical team had to cut off my legs to save me ( transporters were fragged). A few days later at Starfleet medical in SF they had to remove my arms due to burn damage. Now I’m back again, half machine but I’m back. War is hell
What's funny is that other sources have stated that the ship was actually weakest on the front, and that the heavy disrupter was more to force enemies to the side, where the ship could unleash massed broadsides on a ship that thought it was safe. Same sort of thinking went into why the defense stations were hollow in the center and the station had such large gaps. Be strong where your enemy thinks you are weak, and do not be where your enemy thinks you are strong, something like that.
Weird the guy just said these ships of the Cardassian Union had a crew of over 300 but I remember hearing in the Star Trek TNG Season 4 episode 'The Wounded' where we heard a Cardassian warship had a crew of 600 onboard so if the Cardassian Galor Class Warship is supposed to have a crew of 300 onboard what happened to the other 300 crewmembers.
Love this ship
Great design.
best looking ship by far
I like the idea of ship design for wolf pack tactics that dose not need to resupplied. I think I might still this idea for my unsivers fleet.
Ever considered doing a Fleet Overview series? Focusing on overall tactics, strategies, fleet compositions etc?
Do the Orville next!! Or Union mid size explorer, whatever the class is called.
I'll never get tired of seeing those two Galaxy class starships tearing apart that Galor class. I almost feel sorry for the captain.
great video didn't know about the lack of torpedoes FASA often suggests that it does use torpedoes. i like that you mention its combination of agility and firepower which is a result of it essentially being a Meshing of its two predecessors the Ekoor and Kulinor cruisers. i hoped you would mention the different variants indicated by the color of the Deflector?
Depends on patient I think. There are at least 3 types
@@paulrasmussen8953 yeah so in TNG we see orange/yellow and red deflectors but in promotional art it has a blue dish.
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Galor class - Keldon class facinating ships.
The Cardassian Union is one of my favourite states in the Star Trek. It seems like a "bad guy" nation at first (especially with how they're portrayed in TNG) but further analysis in the later seasons of TNG and all throughout DS9 showcase the complexity of their state, ideology and methods. Cardassian Officers are usually smart, cunning and tactically minded. Throughout political strife and chaos, the Cardassian people pull through. They find themselves surrounded by the giant UFP, a monster of a nation that has conflicting ideas and thoughts with theirs. They're the biggest of the smaller powers (Non-Romulan/Klingon/Federation) and they do want to show it/assert themselves.
Spacedock
243K subscribers I'm a huge fan of the Cardassian Galor Class Warship as it is my top favorite Cardassian ship design.
Good battle ship
Im watching DS9 rn man, good timing
The advancement of Cardassian technology from the mid to late 24th century really deserves an episode of it's own. The Cardassians went from thinking the USS Phoenix, Nebula Class Starship with an AWACS dish was some type of Federation Heavy Cruiser, to building the Galor class Destroyer within a period of ten years. Did the writers of TNG and DS9 think they needed to give the Cardassians more teeth?
Or a refit. Maybe those Galoes she fought were earlier types
Every time I see a Cardassian ship, particularly a Galor-class, I go back to being a kid and thinking when I saw it on the telly "these guys, these guys are bad". Also of Star Trek Conquest for the Wii and always having to deal with the annoying cardies.
Spacedock: wonder how a video on modern earthbound ships would look like. 😉
I know it's not quite the 'style' of this channel (being not so very hard sci-fi), so I submit as a research challenge more than anything else: The Anatoray-Disith Exile-class colony ship from the series _Last Exile._ If nothing else, it has some interesting and somewhat cryptic properties.
Defiant couldn't one shot one in the early seasons, months later, a squadron of fighters blew one up on the first pass.
Could you do the defiant next?
"Lightly armored" Aren't they supposed to be really rugged, not advanced but sturdy? And at 2 million tons for only 370 meters long that makes sense. It seemed to me that the Cardassians always focused on cheap, efficient designs because they didn't have the sensors/firepower/accuracy of other power's warships. That's why they relied on missile drones, orbital platforms and gunships.
Bout time we got some spoon head vids
should do a break down of ships from the X3 series of games
This is one of the VERY FEW ships in the Star Trek Universe that makes any kind of freaking sense at all.
Tholians are another.
But here you have few to no “Huge Masses” hanging-off the ends of Spindly Pylons that would require petajoules to zetajoules of power to just keep in place while moving at impulse speeds. Imagine what could be accomplished by a culture that wasn’t wasting mega-zetajoules per year just to keep their ships from flying to bits when traveling at sunlight speeds.
How about one on Starfleet Academy's Nova squadron?
Cardassian warships are still very dangerous in space combat.
I love Cardassian ship's
Have to admit this is one of my favourite non federation starship
Disruptors? It's never mentioned they have disruptors and in the TNG series Captain Jellicoe tells the Cardassian warships to "dump their phaser coils" before leaving.
There is a display graphic in "The Wounded" stating they use disruptor weaponry, for what it's worth.
One of the best bad guy ships in Star Trek. We need to see more Cardassian warships.
Keldon class next?
What is that shot at 1:53 from? Never seen them with such bright red lights on the front. Looks very film like but which?
The 4 glowing wedges on the wings, brussard collectors? Is this ship have 4 engines? Would be handy with two engines in each armored wing. Even if one was hit and a engine pair was disabled, the second pair gives backup capability as long as two in a single wing are not hit.
“Destroyer”? I’d lean more into “light frigate”
I heard cruiser as well heavy cruiser
darktrooper03 i mean compared to a heavy jem’hadar ship, the galor is definitely smaller
@@hellfish2309 Yes, definently a destroyer or large frigate compared to the jem'hadar battle cruiser.
I would've loved to have known, in canon, what improvements/upgrades the Galors and Keldons would've had when they allied to The Dominion.
WhiteScarsEmo technically the Keldons benefited from Obsidian Order, Tal Shi’ar, AND Dominion engineering
Any chance you'll cover the USS Cerritos?
Please do an entry on the Star Trek Doomsday Device/ Planet Killer
hat thing reminds me of some sort of parasite.
371.88 m= 1,220.1 ft. or 1220 ft. 1 in.
192.23 m= 230.68 ft. or 630 ft. 8.1 (or 8 1/8) in
Are you going to do the keldon and Hutet classes as well?
For Cardassia
Hey Spacedock, I know this isn't really the place to ask but what would be your most recommended science fiction TV or Movie series outside of Star Trek, Stargate and Star Wars
I often wonder where these stats come from.
Can you do the adamant frigate or arachne cruiser from battlestar galactica deadlock please?
How many Cardassians are out there? There are Cardassians Galor!
Destroyer? I thought it was classified as a heavy cruiser up to their version of a battleship?