Ep. 3 -1971 VW Super Beetle - Torsion Bar & Spring Plate Install, Lower The Rear Suspension 3"

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  • Intstalling the torsion bars, bushings, and spring plate. Re-indexing the torsion bar for a 3" drop.

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  • @kometeer9576
    @kometeer9576 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most informative video I’ve seen on this job, and I’ve watched a #, TY

  • @1amPain
    @1amPain 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THANK YOU for this video. This is the best explanation of everything I needed to re-index and raise my 73 Baja Ghia.

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped!!

    • @carlosnox91
      @carlosnox91 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@bottomupbuilds Por qué dejaste de hacer contenido , apenas me tope con tu canal y todo lo explicas a detalle hubiera estado perfecto más vídeos como este!

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carlosnox91 ojalá puedo hacer mas videos en el futuro. Tuve unas cosas en la vida que me tomó del poyecto, pero es toy pensando que voy a poder hacer mas tiempo al fin del año.

  • @timpeacock1659
    @timpeacock1659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a brilliant video - going in reverse as ripped a jacking point clear off to so this is sooo useful !! Thanks for making and very clear video.

  • @sdfilmfolks
    @sdfilmfolks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. I needed that. The angle chart is gold!

  • @volkmarmaleika1623
    @volkmarmaleika1623 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another GREAT video THANK YOU VW

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are welcome, I'm glad it helped!

  • @lvlikeyV
    @lvlikeyV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hoping you put out more videos in the near future. Great video.

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I agree! Hopefully I'm getting close to having time to get back to this!

  • @chrisbenn8691
    @chrisbenn8691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Use the longer bolts from the bottom of your super bug strut to start on the spring plate and then swap to your short ones. The video didn't mention that these bolts are 15mm size, and using normal sized 17mm head bolts don't have room. The strut mont bolts are your friend here.

  • @johnlist9054
    @johnlist9054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh, let no one ever say adjusting torsion bars is NOT a pain in the ass. This video was very helpful and as I type this, I'm reviewing the video to get the torque specs for the end cap bolts.
    Just establishing the factory height was a pain. In the end, I could never quite get exactly 21 degrees 20 minutes, so after randomly rotating the inner and outer, I fell upon exactly 10 degrees, by chance (yes, I, too, desire a 3 inch drop)!

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice!! Glad it helped out, hopefully you're out driving soon!

  • @KG72
    @KG72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You made it so easy.

  • @VanaConn
    @VanaConn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pull the arm and make life easier and also replace the arm bushing while you're at it

  • @bugguy1967
    @bugguy1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a tool that pulls the spring plate up to the stop, and also helps to safely remove the spring plate. It'll prevent the plate from slamming in the downward position.

    • @bigalforsyth
      @bigalforsyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      although i totally agree w/ the safety notion...the "slamming down" is rather anticlimactic as it pops down an inch maybe? I was prepared for a ground shaking event and its just not. a bump of the hammer from the back and no fingers in the way and done.

  • @deansmith6956
    @deansmith6956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video, keep them coming 👏

  • @reyes3972
    @reyes3972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelente trabajo y explicación

  • @rommeljrg
    @rommeljrg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gracias por compartir👏👏

  • @Mars36912
    @Mars36912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the amazing video an dim curious do you need to do the other side also left side, i want to do mine and i assume i need to do both side the same degrees and process to be level the same.

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mars36912 yes, definitely do both sides! Same process on the other side 👍

    • @Mars36912
      @Mars36912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bottomupbuilds thank you!!

  • @randyb726
    @randyb726 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Put the spring play behind the diagonal arm before you tighten the bolts

  • @gutshotgriz3936
    @gutshotgriz3936 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not clear on how you got the spring plate back up on its shelf. Did it just line up with the shelf without tension since you lowered the ride height? Setting
    mine back to stock height I’m expecting to have to use a jack under the spring plate to get it back up on its ledge. Am I picturing this correctly?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct, since I lowered the car (raised the starting position of the spring plate) mine just set right on the shelf without much effort. If you are raising the car (lowering the starting position of the spring plate) you will need to use something to press it up so it can be pushed over and set on the shelf. If your car is assembled with the body on and engine in, a jack should do the trick, or I have even seen people use a ratchet strap to pull the spring plate up so it can be set into place.

    • @gutshotgriz3936
      @gutshotgriz3936 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bottomupbuilds Will be tackling this job tomorrow. Thanks for giving me the confidence to proceed.

  • @tangolima4148
    @tangolima4148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me, or isn't it easier to install the torsion bars and plate first and then mount the diagonal axes? Saves you from scratching the freshly painted parts.

  • @bigalforsyth
    @bigalforsyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    with mine dropped 2 splines and no bumpstops...still trying to figure out what metal to metal is bottoming out. I have to leave 20lbs or more in my air shocks to prevent a metal to metal collision back there

  • @jarrodwilliams521
    @jarrodwilliams521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. Could you explain why you used two different greases? Is there a special kind of grease to use with urethane?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The grease I used on the urethane parts did come with the parts. I believe there are some types of grease that don't pair well with it. I figured it was a safe bet, in this case, to use what was provided.

    • @gutshotgriz3936
      @gutshotgriz3936 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I googled “grease for polyurethane bushings” and the recommendation was to use lithium grease.

  • @cyprianskiba8768
    @cyprianskiba8768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you insert the torsion bar randomly? Or is there a mark on the outer part of the torsion bar that’s tells you where the top or bottom is?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can insert it randomly, then adjust it until you find the stock height, then reference the chart for raising or lowering. I marked the top of mine before i removed them to make sure I could put them back exactly where they were.

    • @cyprianskiba8768
      @cyprianskiba8768 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bottomupbuilds on my 63 beetle, I set both sides to 17 degrees and the driver side is an inch lower 🤷‍♂️.

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyprianskiba8768 Odd, maybe one of the torsion bars is getting warn out?

    • @cyprianskiba8768
      @cyprianskiba8768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bottomupbuilds that’s my guess. I put in an order for some new torsion bars and will see what happens

    • @1amPain
      @1amPain 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@cyprianskiba8768Did new torsion bars fix your problem?

  • @aadgalaxy
    @aadgalaxy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What paint did you use on this chassis and has it held up? Maybe you have a video on paint process? Looks killer, just want to make sure it's gonna last. My son and I are rebuilding my wife's grandfathers '72 super beetle. Thanks!

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out this video th-cam.com/video/wmW3nXZ1dD0/w-d-xo.html on the process of cleaning and prepping the parts for paint.
      This is the paint I used, Speedokote SMR-207/211 - Hot Rod Black Paint, Black Satin 2K Urethane, SMR-207 4:1 Mix Single Stage Gallon kit with activator Included
      And this is the primer, Speedokote Epoxy Fast Dry 2.1 Low voc DTM Primer & Sealer Gray Gallon Kit, SMR-260G/261
      I wish I had an update on how its held up, but other life projects have put the bug on the back back burner and so its still just sitting in the garage as of today.

    • @aadgalaxy
      @aadgalaxy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bottomupbuilds Thanks a bunch for the response! Amazing info. And I hope you get back to the bug soon. :)

  • @johnlist9054
    @johnlist9054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see dark touch up paint on your torsion bars. Can you tell me what that is? I have unused 26mm torsion bars I've owned for approximately 6 or 7 years which have acquired a few nicks in the paint over the years

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever the black was that was on there, was on there when I pulled them out. It didn't clean off, like it was a paint or a glue/residue from something, whatever it was was stuck on really good. Not sure where it came from or what it was though.

  • @sonidofestivalshow9996
    @sonidofestivalshow9996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Is the round rubber on the outside larger in diameter?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are referring to the part in the video at around 9:34, yes the outside IS larger than the inside. IF you are looking at the bushing at about 10:30, the outside IS NOT smaller. Bothe bushings can only go on in one direction and should fit the shape of the spring plate and cover.

  • @michaelknight2897
    @michaelknight2897 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the link to the chart?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Google VW lowering chart and you'll find dozens of the same chart

  • @johnlist9054
    @johnlist9054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Follow up question. Can you tell me the source of your torsion bar end caps? I'd like to keep my factory ones, but one side got a crease like dent on the edge of the hole, and I don't feel it's safe to use. I bought replacements, but they're not the correct ones(they looked correct in the online picture, but it may have been a representative image).

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, I know I got those from Mooreparts.com at the time they were the cheapest price with shipping.

    • @user-ct1tx4kk4p
      @user-ct1tx4kk4p ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bottomupbuilds do you have a part number for the end caps you purchased?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ct1tx4kk4p www.mooreparts.com/search-results-page?q=%20AC511102B
      Based on my invoice, that is the part I bought, hope that helps!

    • @user-ct1tx4kk4p
      @user-ct1tx4kk4p ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bottomupbuilds rats. Shows as not in stock.

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ct1tx4kk4p bummer, did you try the other usuals? Jbugs, cip1, wolfburg west?

  • @sonidofestivalshow9996
    @sonidofestivalshow9996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you send me the brand and part number of the plastic bushings?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are Prothane brand, I can't get you the part number, I do not know if they still make that brand. Any google search will get you a similar product for your year and model though.

  • @ramontorres5655
    @ramontorres5655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you finish the car?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ha, I wish, just had other real life stuff that needed attention before I can get back to this. Hopefully soon though!

    • @ramontorres5655
      @ramontorres5655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm building a 73 SB your video helped me out.... thanks..

  • @gordonpatnode5728
    @gordonpatnode5728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the processed reversed for the drivers side?

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, in regards to the way you turn the torsion bar and spring plate.

  • @randybonomi1198
    @randybonomi1198 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get that chart

    • @bottomupbuilds
      @bottomupbuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      99% sure I got it from a thread on thesamba.com
      www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1443589.jpg
      here is one I found with a quick search