Ah just left a comment saying that! I think they are staging them to either surpass doping positives or to have more stupid safety rules, like fvcking chicanes
I don't know who I despise more: the idiots who throw beer and caps at riders or the anonymous cowards who make allegations from behind their PCs for which they provide no evidence whatsoever.
@@hominygrits_ I don't know who I despise more: the idiots who throw beer and caps at riders or the anonymous cowards who make allegations from behind their PCs for which they provide no evidence whatsoever.
The problem is that he is merely suggestive and linking up things to look a certain way. I was considdering reporting to authorities but it would be useless sadly.
Nice to see Francis Cade of cade media and "Bike fit" James on the clip👌😂 I look forward to watching your vids. Sometimes people don't want the reality that their idols are fake and its only the tinfoil hat brigade who dream up these conspiracies. Keep up the great work. I wear my Armstrong, ulrich and pantani jerseys with pride. If you ain't doing you ain't winning 🤣💊💉
Hamilton said in his book the Cecchini method was get very thin, get very fit and have a high red blood cell count presumably with bbs or edgar. He wasn't really much in to roids apparently.
@@cyclinghighlights not defending him he clearly creates the program and outsources the pharmacy treatment/bit. This way he avoids the Italian anti doping laws.
@@unsplash146 I assume so. I think it is someone who is a contemporary of Bjarne Riis, the so-called "friend of the channel". Danes and Denmark seem to feature a lot.
It's a great mystery! Also, the owner of the channel does not appear to be the person narrating. Whoever they are, they have an encyclopedic knowledge of cycling!
Stefano Cecchini was 38 when rode the Passo Giau only one minute slower then Nibali that year...no more comments needed....i would suggest Froome to call Cecchini for some advises😂😂😂😂 awesome video❤❤
@@cyclinghighlights Thanks. I see Mihajlovic’s is also mentioned by Dino. At least Danish Footballers who played in Italy don't get health problems. If they did they'd recover at the always clean Man United. Who I've heard have some new employees 👴🏻.
Probably just a coincidence. Hey CH you should look at all these staged crashes, like Froome, Pidcock, Vuelt with Roche and Uran, and now Ving/Remco just riding off the road...
I see no proof whatsoever so with our current state of knowledge, this is slander. You might be right, but you provide no proof as you only declare guilty by association. Maybe you have linked up with some suspicious person yourself in the past and thereby we now have to declare you a criminal? No proof means not guilty and association with non-convicted people means, in the end, nothing. So, at the moment this qualifies as pure slander and you should be ashamed of yourself (you won't be).
That I declare who is guilty of what. As I have repeated numerous times in the video, Cecchini is not considered by any of his clients as a doping doctor, indeed, they even defend him. The clients were doped, but by other doctors, Cecchini however is more of a psychologist according to them. It is you who draws these absurd conclusions about our video. Why do I show it? As I indicate in the video, I had been told about MvdP and Cecchini, and here I simply show why they are connected.
@@cyclinghighlightsWell, when you look at my reply I do the same as what you did with your video. I did't say that you said MVDP is doped, did I? Had you said that MVDP is doped you would have a legal problem, but your video is way to clever for that. It's all implication and suggestion. Looking at the reactions it seems to work. Looking at your reaction to my reply, where I only accuse you of slander without being explicit, I suspect that this is the intention of your work; making people suspicious about the somewhat extraordinary performances of MVDP, or maybe you also want to do the same with WVA, or Pocgie or Vinnie?
False, dude. You say I'm slandering someone, which I'm not. You don't say I'm commenting on MVDP being doped, you say I'm defaming him and I'd like you to tell me WHERE I say that, because it doesn't happen at any point. I do not make any insinuation or suggestion, I expose what these people expose by themselves in their social networks or those of their teams, from there you can draw your own conclusions. You yourself speak of somewhat extraordinary performances of MVDP, that is, out of the ordinary. Therefore, it is normal for people to react as they see fit. But obviously, we are not responsible for the opinions of others, if you have something against what they say, tell them, not us.
@@dagmarvandusschoten9167 haha nice, rattled him proper this ;) He is well aware the fine line he is walking when it comes to slander, further insulting our intelligence with his replies. One of these days he will slip up or find himself unaware of changes in legislation that would get him in trouble. The problem is that people who know this will not waste their time watching all his content and keep up to date with it to catch him on a mistake and report it to authorities.. but I might make an exception to that ;)
Realize everyone is doping. Stop testing. Stop complaining. Just watch the race. The amount of money wasted on testing and the unearned praise for those you think are clean, is irritating.
Not really. It would be dangerous with 60% plus haematocrit which would be dangerous for strokes etc. Some testing is needed otherwise they'll dope themselves to death.
So many good details I'll have to listen to this TH-cam again .... This Doctor sounds like he's living a double life ? Like all these so called elite athletes he's been associated with .....
So after being persecuted and investigated all through his career, after riders have spilled their beans on all the doping doctors but yet none say anything bad about Luigi Cecchini. After all that, you just know more about this than all the legal teams and riders... What if this man is just legit and pasionate and just as much a victim of the doping scandals? What if he was too trusting with other doctors, thinking they are just like him? Only cheaters would have suspected all the other cheaters, an honest person can easily be blind to his surroundings. Keep making up things while slandering people, one of these days you'll slip up and find yourself in court for it ;)
Aristaeus2514 I think you’re really close to Don Luigi because its the first day I saw you here. Do you watch the video by yourself? I have the same conclusions than you. Check it again dude. If Tugboat claims about a lot of doping doctors but not about Don Luigi is for something dude, I believe that!
Hmm it looks suspicious, I give you that but at the same time, it is a bit vague. I miss some hard core data that proves mvdp has and is doping. That being said I think the police should investigate after this video. Tap their phones etc whatever is needed within the law to get some strong solid evidence. Maybe also some to follow them, where they go.
Would be interesting to analyze the Strava activity and development of some of the top riders. It's a shame vdPoel and others have stopped publishing as much. This would have been a nice way to compare their inputs over a season!
On a totally unrelated topic MdvP in a recent interview said that if he were to chose how to spend his time he would ride his mountain bike in the hills of Lucca. I always remember this answer as being quite surprising. Now I know why.
So because a doctor takes residence in a cycling hotspot, because thats where a lot of cyclist live/train, the hotspot suddenly becomes tainted and the reason for them to go there is the doctor? Not only is it a good spot to go if you work with cyclists, it also is a beautifull place on earth to live and enjoy cycling yourself. Use your brain a bit please, this channel is only instigating slander and not out to find truth at all. Truth: Luigi Cecchini has been under investigation many times and never charged with any crime. None of the dopeurs that later went public has ever mentioned Luigi Cecchini in relation to doping.
@@aristaeus2514 why was he signing prescriptions for banned substances then, after he claimed to be working *solely* as a trainer? Also the idea that MvdP is going to see Cecchini to supervise or improve his training program and hang out with his rather odd son is laughable. He's there for some of that famous Luigi juice.
Tomorrow we will analyze the very serious crash of Vingegaard, Evenepoel, Roglic or Vine among others, stay tuned!
👍🏿
Ah just left a comment saying that! I think they are staging them to either surpass doping positives or to have more stupid safety rules, like fvcking chicanes
Your content is great. Those videos on the 96 and 97 TdFs were amusing.
In the Danish television clip the good doctor is simply called "berømt læge", meaning famous doctor. Famous indeed!
Riis... friend of the channel!
Brilliant bald man😅
I don't know who I despise more: the idiots who throw beer and caps at riders or the anonymous cowards who make allegations from behind their PCs for which they provide no evidence whatsoever.
How often are you going to copy paste this comment?
@@hominygrits_ I don't know who I despise more: the idiots who throw beer and caps at riders or the anonymous cowards who make allegations from behind their PCs for which they provide no evidence whatsoever.
XDDD it’s like a bot! Amazing!
False accusations are criminal offences in most countries…
The problem is that he is merely suggestive and linking up things to look a certain way. I was considdering reporting to authorities but it would be useless sadly.
Accusations of…
“The problem is”
What a world
Innuendo. And anonymously, too. It’s a really cowardly, and easy thing to do. Sign of the times.
@@aristaeus2514look, it's the youtube gestapo
They aren't false.
Nice to see Francis Cade of cade media and "Bike fit" James on the clip👌😂
I look forward to watching your vids.
Sometimes people don't want the reality that their idols are fake and its only the tinfoil hat brigade who dream up these conspiracies.
Keep up the great work.
I wear my Armstrong, ulrich and pantani jerseys with pride.
If you ain't doing you ain't winning 🤣💊💉
Hamilton said in his book the Cecchini method was get very thin, get very fit and have a high red blood cell count presumably with bbs or edgar. He wasn't really much in to roids apparently.
That I said in the video
@@cyclinghighlights not defending him he clearly creates the program and outsources the pharmacy treatment/bit. This way he avoids the Italian anti doping laws.
Only the smart survive
I just wonder: who is or are the author or authors of this channel?
Johan Bruyneel? In Twitter he says he is a antihypocrisy warrior. I would put him on the top of the list.
It has to be a group of ex-professional cyclists or, more likely, an ex-manager.
@@unsplash146 I assume so. I think it is someone who is a contemporary of Bjarne Riis, the so-called "friend of the channel". Danes and Denmark seem to feature a lot.
It's a great mystery! Also, the owner of the channel does not appear to be the person narrating. Whoever they are, they have an encyclopedic knowledge of cycling!
The crazy thing is the amount of rare and specific footage you can see in these videos @@bobjackson3735
The 96% is a tribute of the best year of Cecchini's clients. I'm a mastermind, like Dave Brailsford (Not bald)
AMAZING!!
Stefano Cecchini was 38 when rode the Passo Giau only one minute slower then Nibali that year...no more comments needed....i would suggest Froome to call Cecchini for some advises😂😂😂😂 awesome video❤❤
Horner defeats Nibali in Angliru at 42... That's the only comment i need!
Aw man! The Carlton dance!😂
Dane...always the Dane. 😂😂
Uh, so where's the proven connection between MvdP and Cecchini? Not much there there IMHO.
Not much but some things, right?
IMHO
@@cyclinghighlights Slander can be a thing as well
@aristaeus2514 if you’re telling again that I slander Don Luigi probably you’re the only one that slandered here. To me.
Who was the Juve player?
Dino Baggio. He told there was a lot of doping in Calcio after Vialli’s death
@@cyclinghighlights Thanks. I see Mihajlovic’s is also mentioned by Dino.
At least Danish Footballers who played in Italy don't get health problems. If they did they'd recover at the always clean Man United. Who I've heard have some new employees 👴🏻.
Just watched roubaix.. ff after arenburg....pissing in our faces....🤦♂️🤦♂️
Probably just a coincidence. Hey CH you should look at all these staged crashes, like Froome, Pidcock, Vuelt with Roche and Uran, and now Ving/Remco just riding off the road...
Don't think they stage a crash..
mmm, pigeon pie, but watch out for the strychnine
Poor Adri
Oxymoron: honesty in cycling. Best cycling channel around.
Bit of a stretch to say the least..🙄
Don't you think Cecchini is one of the most important figures in cycling on the last 35 years? Why?
I see no proof whatsoever so with our current state of knowledge, this is slander. You might be right, but you provide no proof as you only declare guilty by association. Maybe you have linked up with some suspicious person yourself in the past and thereby we now have to declare you a criminal? No proof means not guilty and association with non-convicted people means, in the end, nothing. So, at the moment this qualifies as pure slander and you should be ashamed of yourself (you won't be).
That I declare who is guilty of what. As I have repeated numerous times in the video, Cecchini is not considered by any of his clients as a doping doctor, indeed, they even defend him. The clients were doped, but by other doctors, Cecchini however is more of a psychologist according to them. It is you who draws these absurd conclusions about our video.
Why do I show it? As I indicate in the video, I had been told about MvdP and Cecchini, and here I simply show why they are connected.
@@cyclinghighlightsWell, when you look at my reply I do the same as what you did with your video. I did't say that you said MVDP is doped, did I? Had you said that MVDP is doped you would have a legal problem, but your video is way to clever for that. It's all implication and suggestion. Looking at the reactions it seems to work. Looking at your reaction to my reply, where I only accuse you of slander without being explicit, I suspect that this is the intention of your work; making people suspicious about the somewhat extraordinary performances of MVDP, or maybe you also want to do the same with WVA, or Pocgie or Vinnie?
False, dude. You say I'm slandering someone, which I'm not. You don't say I'm commenting on MVDP being doped, you say I'm defaming him and I'd like you to tell me WHERE I say that, because it doesn't happen at any point.
I do not make any insinuation or suggestion, I expose what these people expose by themselves in their social networks or those of their teams, from there you can draw your own conclusions. You yourself speak of somewhat extraordinary performances of MVDP, that is, out of the ordinary. Therefore, it is normal for people to react as they see fit. But obviously, we are not responsible for the opinions of others, if you have something against what they say, tell them, not us.
@@dagmarvandusschoten9167 haha nice, rattled him proper this ;) He is well aware the fine line he is walking when it comes to slander, further insulting our intelligence with his replies. One of these days he will slip up or find himself unaware of changes in legislation that would get him in trouble.
The problem is that people who know this will not waste their time watching all his content and keep up to date with it to catch him on a mistake and report it to authorities.. but I might make an exception to that ;)
@aristaeus2514 so officially I have a hater reconigzed by himself! That’s nice, Captain Justice! Remember use Adblock too!
Doping to kick a ball around for 90 mins you must be joking
Certainly, YOU haven't even kicked a ball around for 10 minutes!
@@savagepro9060what ?
@@savagepro9060I tell you what I am good at, writhing in agony as though I’ve been shot if an opposing player comes with in 3 feet of me
@@Tarmaccyclocross then stick with the NFL, not soccer
@@savagepro9060 nfl is totally clean.
6:50 I knew it! I knew it! Francis is doped content provider. How can an unknown become so popular on TH-cam, so fast? 🤭🤭🤭
Are you accusing him of Bot Van Aert?
I recognise a TH-camr and bike fitter 😂.
03:09 is that the Dane? Always the Dane...
The friend of the channel, yes
@@cyclinghighlightswhy is always referred to as the friend of the channel?
Another grt vid 👍
@@zerog4261 he appears a lot so for us is like a godfather, a close friend
@@cyclinghighlights ah... That's nice
Realize everyone is doping. Stop testing. Stop complaining. Just watch the race. The amount of money wasted on testing and the unearned praise for those you think are clean, is irritating.
100% true
Not really. It would be dangerous with 60% plus haematocrit which would be dangerous for strokes etc. Some testing is needed otherwise they'll dope themselves to death.
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So many good details I'll have to listen to this TH-cam again .... This Doctor sounds like he's living a double life ? Like all these so called elite athletes he's been associated with .....
Not a double life because he had photos with Riis, but clearly he loves cycling
Trust the science.
The real true of cycling before and now!!!!
Stefano really does have quite a trove of photos with MvdP .... surprised you didn't mention Ulrich and Basso were his clients for years too.
*Birillo
Ullrich didn’t mention but yes, in Riis teams he would be included
I think we all want to know the truth , is Bjarne Riis really a friend of the channel ??
Another plow twist
Could you imagine I’m Mr.Cecchini?
Like Lefevere is
So what we learnt from this video is that Cecchini is a sport doctor.
The video is excellent. But the comments are epic.
So after being persecuted and investigated all through his career, after riders have spilled their beans on all the doping doctors but yet none say anything bad about Luigi Cecchini. After all that, you just know more about this than all the legal teams and riders...
What if this man is just legit and pasionate and just as much a victim of the doping scandals? What if he was too trusting with other doctors, thinking they are just like him? Only cheaters would have suspected all the other cheaters, an honest person can easily be blind to his surroundings.
Keep making up things while slandering people, one of these days you'll slip up and find yourself in court for it ;)
Aristaeus2514 I think you’re really close to Don Luigi because its the first day I saw you here. Do you watch the video by yourself? I have the same conclusions than you. Check it again dude.
If Tugboat claims about a lot of doping doctors but not about Don Luigi is for something dude, I believe that!
Hmm it looks suspicious, I give you that but at the same time, it is a bit vague. I miss some hard core data that proves mvdp has and is doping. That being said I think the police should investigate after this video. Tap their phones etc whatever is needed within the law to get some strong solid evidence. Maybe also some to follow them, where they go.
Police investigate a lot of times Don Luigi and never happened
@@cyclinghighlights What about Luigi Cecchini sons? Have they found any evidence of doping when it comes to them?
@@christianfibiger3146His sons are not professional athletes.
@@neutronalchemist3241 No they are not:) but it is possible they are doping riders.
Super gracias
Would be interesting to analyze the Strava activity and development of some of the top riders. It's a shame vdPoel and others have stopped publishing as much. This would have been a nice way to compare their inputs over a season!
On a totally unrelated topic MdvP in a recent interview said that if he were to chose how to spend his time he would ride his mountain bike in the hills of Lucca. I always remember this answer as being quite surprising. Now I know why.
Best Hills ever
Probably there Bieber songs sounds better because the acoustic of the mountains
So because a doctor takes residence in a cycling hotspot, because thats where a lot of cyclist live/train, the hotspot suddenly becomes tainted and the reason for them to go there is the doctor? Not only is it a good spot to go if you work with cyclists, it also is a beautifull place on earth to live and enjoy cycling yourself.
Use your brain a bit please, this channel is only instigating slander and not out to find truth at all.
Truth:
Luigi Cecchini has been under investigation many times and never charged with any crime.
None of the dopeurs that later went public has ever mentioned Luigi Cecchini in relation to doping.
@aristaeus2514 Not only Andorra is a country whenever you pay less taxes, it’s also great for climbing hard mountains
And it’s close to Girona too!
@@aristaeus2514 why was he signing prescriptions for banned substances then, after he claimed to be working *solely* as a trainer? Also the idea that MvdP is going to see Cecchini to supervise or improve his training program and hang out with his rather odd son is laughable. He's there for some of that famous Luigi juice.
@@aristaeus2514 Damn, what are you on? Tell me, please, I want to absolutely never come close to whatever you took.