The bird guy is the best, he gets a bird that helps you spot enemies from stealth... Most of his skills give the bird some type of damage, which allerts enemies to your presence, making his whole kit pointless and useless... It is great!
This could be so easily fixed. - Skill 1: The bird deals damage to the marked target after you damage it - Skill 2: The bird also deals damage-over-time bleed to the marked target after you damage it - Skill 3: When the market target notices you, it moves or attacks slower (because it's being pecked by the bird) - Skill 4: When you kill the marked target, another bird spawns from its corpse and attacks the nearest enemy - Skill 5: When you kill the marked target, its blood attracts a swarm of birds. AoE crowstorm circles around the corpse for a couple of seconds. Any of those changes would keep the bird's damaging ability without breaking the stealth aspect.
They did this shit to every chars. For example, who can carry more medkits than anyone else? Right, the girl, who has healing utli and healing robot. Because she needs more healing obviously.
I played some anthem cause I bought it on sale for like $10 and the shooting was solid. That was really the only good part of the game and it does it too much.
Idk mass effect 3 had super fun multiplayer, sure it was just basically survival but it was fun as hell, anthem was ruined because of ea not BioWare, they also simultaneously killed mass effect because they wanted to make anthem
@@gunnerdown To be fair i didnt even knew Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer until like a couple years after its release i only played Mass Effect for its single player.
@@Startrance85 I don’t even remember when I started playing it but it was a blast especially with friends but hell I played the multiplayer solo sometimes
You know what Arkane should do? An open world RPG with a loot system set in modern times about a crazy cult and a lot of pop culture references and millennial/gen z dialogue.
@@Mentelgen-1337 They've done that a few times already. It was time for them to do a Bioware and make a shitty co-op game that nobody asked for instead of making another immersive sim or a stealth game. You know, the things they're good at.
For those who don’t know the director of Dishonored and Prey left Arkane in 2019ish and then Arkane was split into multiple studios and we got Deathloop and redfall. I genuinely believe he was the visionary which brought the team together. I also wouldn’t be surprised if other team members left.
Do you know why he left? Those were both pretty good titles he directed. You’d think Arkane would have given him more control over their subsequent titles.
@@prestonowens4594 He had enough of Zenimax and Bethesda's bullshit. They destroyed any chance of Prey having commercial success with its name and marketing and didn't want to stick around to see the studio he founded crash and burn because his publishers are chasing trends.
Honestly, hearing Oboe rant about anything he's passionate about, be it Bionicle, Borderlands, or Dishonored, always ends up being his most entertaining stuff
"The Telekinetic Threat In Student Debt isn't part of the Dishonored universe! This is the happiest I've ever been!" I actually believe it, I can almost hear emotion in your voice when you say it
Yeah I literally thought the game was using development footage from 2014 but it's unironically a game that's been in development since the late 2010's.
@@swarthybullxxx so many games look like shit straight otta 2013 yet they require a fuckin rtx 3060 ți or something, such a load of bullshit. Ah and the inevitable pc games stutters that every game has nowdays 😭, I havent played a game on my pc in a year, well, tried, by pirateing them, and they all unplayable
@@talpatv512 it's not even really the graphics that makes it look dated. It's the visual style, aesthetic, characters, and bland ass game play that make it look like a game from the beginning of the PS4/Xbone gen. Honestly this game wouldn't have been passable if it was released in 2015 too.
@@swarthybullxxx I feel the same about dead island 2, kind of hot take, whenever I see that health bar on top of enemies and rpg mechanics I just tell myself (this game fuckin sucks ass) im so tired of it, just give me an enjoyable linear experince at least and not a grindfest
Essay youtouber talking about the downfall of arkane studio while the guy in the background video talk about the game suck because it's not dishonored and making joke why helicopter in most video game crash.
I feel like everyone had the exact same reaction to this game. Arkane went “Hey, we’re making a Stephen King-inspired vampire fps,” and everyone went wild. Then they said they it was an open-world loiter shooter with rpg elements, and we all knew what was coming…
I mean, anyone who saw the announcement trailer should have known it was going to be bad. It was just that hispter black girl being quirky and I was like "oh god oh god OH GOD"
You guys remember how in the first 3 new Wolfenstein games the guns would absolutely mulch whatever you were shooting at, then in that awful co-op sequel they made the guns into RPG weapons that quote numbers instead of annihilating flesh? I don't think guns make good RPG weapons
I agree, every RPG that ive played has very unsatisfying gunplay for some reason. Fallout 4 probably had the best I’ve experienced but even that gunplay was very average (but good by fallout standards), with the downside being them removing several of the roleplay elements from previous games like New Vegas
@@brokenpotato438 To be honest I preferred the gunplay in new vegas, at least in that game you had functional lever actions because apparently nobody at bethesda is capable of making a scripted reload so every weapon they make has to have a magazine.
I was a complete fool, a bumbling buffoon, an incredible idiot and thought 'oh shit, Arkane's making a co-op shooter? Will Left 4 Dead not be the only classic co-op shooter anymore?' What funny thoughts I once had.
When a game is so mid (or worse), that it's so up Oboe's alley that he releases a video on it immediately, despite being a game that came out last week instead of a decade or more ago. That said, Redfall may as well have been made in the last decade, so.
Arkane has financially been on the down for a while now. Dishonored 1 was the lightning in a bottle that somehow, despite being an immersive sim, actually made it big--and made the big bucks. Bethesda snapped them up. Then Prey and Dishonored 2 undersold (well, according to Bethady's inflated expectations) and Raphael Colantonio left to found his own company, wolf eye, partially because of those overinflated sales expectations. We all know how publishers treat studios...so Arkane had to think of something fast if they didn't want to eat it. This part is more my speculation, but it seems to me that Arkane has undergone a change in priority. Prey and Dishonored 2 were amazing games, but they didn't make the sales figures. Enter Deathloop (which has been rumored to have originated as Dishonored 3), and now Redfall, a game chasing a genre alien to its developers and fanbase, and one dominated by the likes of Left 4 Dead, which was never going to be a kind comparison. It's sad, you can still see the sparks of creativity in Redfall--just look at the premise. But it seems these desperate overcorrections aren't going to work, and that makes me worried for their future.
I wouldn’t be surprise if that was case. I’ve seen too many developers try to play it safe or do something utterly different and end up flopping because that wasn’t what the fans wanted. I’m still salty about Studios baking in micro transactions, forcing constant Internet connection and relying on Day 1 patches.
The sad thing is that when a good triple a game "fails" it's not really failure. Arkane is gonna get shut down or go through major restructuring because it made significant profit with its games instead of supplying an exponentially growing stream of infinite money. Companies have unrealistic expectations for games and are insatiably greedy, every new thing has to make more money than the last or they shut down promising studios. Kind of like EA shutting down visceral games despite the fact that the studio was immensely profitable and was creating great games.
I think the writing was on the wall with deathloop. While it wasn’t a bad game (reviewers treated it like the second coming of Christ) the multiplayer component was straight up broken. They also relied heavily on voice-overs and freeze frames instead of cutscenes, which sorta fit the vibe of that game, but definitely doesn’t work for redfall. And the HUGE marketing push for it felt weird and unnatural for what was a fine but not amazing Arkane game. We basically got all that but way worse for redfall
I could see this being the final straw. This was supposed to be a new era for Xbox first-party exclusives - a lot was riding on it. Maybe Arkane could turn Redfall around but they may not get the chance.
I mean, I like that the pistol is actually an effective weapon. I'm sure it gets worse as the enemies become level-dependent bullet-sponges and the weapon tiers take priority, but it was nice to see an enemy drop without unloading the whole magazine.
"Level dependent bullet sponges". Hate to break it to you, that doesn't happen. You'd think it would with the weapon tier system but it doesn't. There are some "bosses" that you can beat by strafing or by standing behind items... They take a couple more shots. I honestly can't explain how bad this game is.
5:57 you know, I used to complain about daytime vampires in pop culture too... but turns out, Dracula can walk in day time just fine, according to the original novel. Vampires dying to sunlight was popularised by the 1922 movie "Nosferatu".
Be isn’t just fine, it takes a lot of his powers and makes in “incredibly cranky”. The book describes him as a spoiled child when in sunlight as opposed to his creature of the night motif he has during the night.
I have yet to see a single video game that did PowerPoint cutscenes well. They almost always ruin the entire story. They're up there with blank screen and text "cutscenes".
I don't see that happening honestly, so many problems with Redfall just arent repairable. You can fix poor performance in the short term but you can't patch in an interesting story and characters or a completely new loot system that isn't ripped right from Destiny. Not that they should try, just make the game playable then move on to new things cus no one wants this.
Your explanation of it being good click bait background gameplay is spot on. I usually watch those videos always thinking "what fkn random game is this?" without enough interest to actually find out because It looks so generic so I just listen to the topic. This is PERFECT for that
Honestly the development of this game feels exactly how I used to do my homeworks. I try to focus, realize it’s harder than I thought, starts writing answers looking away and just praying it’ll work when I give it back to the teacher.
wow! this game sure does have incredibly topical humor! i was rolling on the floor laughing with the student debt comment!!!! please let me out arkane studios has me hostage
Goodness grief. I feel like big budget videogames really are at a low ebb at the minute (tbh, it's been years now). I'd love to see what the hell happened to the talent at these studios that have become a husk of themselves, such as Arkane and DICE. Did they leave (and if so, where exactly?) or did they just give up or something?
Arkane lost it's main director that did their best games. More than that it's hard to know. As for dice, there were a lot of ex dice developers around for a while. Most seemingly ended up at Embark studios, but they haven't released anything outside of some interesting tech research projects and a trailer for a game I think.
The stopped hiring people who are actually interested/capable of making good things. The people who makes these games is reflected in the quality, characters and tone and let's just say these aren't people who arent traditionally known for making innovative and fun things.
I honestly think its a lot of things. One being the industry just changing as a whole for these big titles, they seemed rushed to meet a date and planned out by people who don't care. And the bigger the title the more crunch time/interference. That's why oboe saying they should tell the studio "hey go make whatever you want" is quite literally the best option lol.
Olds joking about student debt is like them saying "Heh remember that time I burned you with my cigarette? Oh look you still have the scar! Can't believe you let me do that to you, good times."
My favorite type of video game to laugh at is "Let's make a studio known for it's interesting unique well-beloved games make the current industry cashgrab"
Loved Dishonored 1 as well Frankly, the studio which created Dishonored no longer exists. Its a common problem with studios in the long run. Regardless of the studio, or prestige behind it the first 2 generations of employees have something to prove. The studio has no reputation, but employees have time, and energy, they create something great. They build a reputation, and the slowly retire. Generation 3 of employees generally care less about sacrifice to make something good. Every generation after proceeds to decline further. With time the people who made the studio, the ones who built the legend leave, or retire, you are left with folks who where not part of this history, only there because of the name. Have little to offer, and think because the studio is well known stuff will just work out. They slack, figure others will catch their slack, problem is all the good employees have already moved on, or retired. You're left with a studio that has nothing in common with the team which made it great beyond the name alone. That's what this is, it's proof the original group of employees who made it great are no longer present. Every well known studio suffers from this same fate, the people who had the time, energy, and willing to sacrifice to produce something great either retire, or get out numbered by new highers. Year after year is simply a steady, and consistent decline.
tough at least the WolfEye Studios was created with the Raphael Colantonio who was Founder, and former Creative Director at Arkane Studios and Julien Roby who is former Executive producer at Arkane Studios.
I think this is why it’s a good idea for companies to dissolve, or at the very least change their company’s name, once their core members are gone. Leave the current team to make it on their own merits without the name recognition. Nothing is meant to last forever.
why do these companies that try and add cringy dialogue also have a weird reference to everyone thats young being in student debt? Like is this something they want people to get excited and happy about? "haha shes poor and hopeless like me, but shes for some reason smiling". 6:09 Actually all vampires prior to nosferatu weren't really effected by sunlight.
this game has that ubisoft style, like it's trying to be fun, smart, thoughtful and and and at the same time, but ending up being a boring a and replaceable occupational therapy in a lifeless open world. i absolutely loved prey, it was such a smart and atmospheric game, seeing arcane going from prey to this is really sad.
You know, Oboe, I’m gonna be honest. I know this video isn’t your usual, hyper-sarcastic style, but I really did like it! It spoke from the heart, and it showed that not only do you clearly have strong and well-intentioned negative feelings for this game in particular, but that you also have a level of insight and cleverness to articulate those feelings well, and in a way that’s still entertaining. Of course, I still really enjoy your other, more zany videos, but I want you to know that this more sober, honest style of video/discussion also very much works to your strengths. And it still fun and enjoyable all throughout. Cheers!
If you want a better vampire game, play Shadows Over Loathing. I mean, it's a standard RPG game, but even the "hit E to stat check to shoot the head vampire" is better than this entire game. Plus, it has C O M E D Y.
Probably my favorite video to date, because I can relate so easily. I watched Assassin's Creed go from interesting historical adventure to an insanely padded mess of an "RPG". Valhalla was my Redfall and I'm glad to commiserate over the loss of a once talented studio
Imagine a 30 days of night game an open sandbox set in the town/outside area where the objective is survive the 30 nights. Just made really dark, cold and terrifying and making the Vampires genuinely scary and otherworld like the film/comic. But, this...... Jesus...
It's odd how when studios are bought by Microsoft, they tend to go from making great games to making shit games or just not making games at all. Weird how that happens A LOT.
It's so obvious how bad they are at managing their studios. Sad part is there are a lot of loyal Xbox fans who will defend them forever because being an "Xbox fan" as opposed to a "PS fan" is part of their personality. So Microsoft will continue to get away with feeding their playerbase complete shit without actually losing more players. Hopefully regulators get their shit together and stop letting them buy whatever they want to buy so they don't ruin anymore good studios.
They did not involve themselves in this game, redfall was in development for years before the buy out, someone explained this already in another comment
Tango had Ghostwire, but then they also had HiFi, and while Ghostwire was a struggle with creative leads (I'd still hold Mircosoft slightly accountable for the final product, and I LIKED Ghostwire but its still has issues that should have been caught) but HiFi was only greenlit under the pretense that I'd be a day one gamepass. Psychonauts 2 was also saved by Microsofts funding as it also had blunders with its project director and new team members, however unlike Ghostwire, that Microsoft money went into cutting the fat and building up the parts that worked. Granted we still haven't seen anything new from Double Fine yet, but if you ask me the biggest issue with Microsofts cannibalization is that they don't care, they aren't exhibiting complete creative control which could be good, but they aren't directing bad projects toward success and their funding is so fucking mismatched. Don't get me wrong, I am very worried that Double Fine's next game could be dog water, and not in the way that Double Fine experiments are NORMALLY hit or miss. More in a asking a studio known for adventure games to make a shitty Hades clone or a Mario Odyessy kind of fucked up.
Just Microsoft? For a long time now we seem to be going into a huge creative crisis caused by economic crisis that the big corps are trying to hide while also trying to keep us individuals from making our own pieces and criticizing theirs.
I blame the fact that we don't meet announcements of the "lover service co-op looter shooter with gearscore." With the same open hostility we do pay to win lootboxes.
i played dishonored for a few hours and then stopped for some reason, but everyone talking about this is making me want to go back to it. thank you redfall.
@@StrengthScholar0 he’s probably excited cuz it’s Arkane and they used to do good stuff. I loooooved Dishonored and Prey, but even I looked at this and felt it gave me Anthem vibes. 😅
I will never ever understand why someone would pay money for an outfit in a first person game, like, youre paying extra money for smth u cant freaking see anyway
I was more lukewarm/surprisingly positive of Deathloop when it first came out, if you want the Dishonored experience with save scumming you'll be disappointed but then get used to the run and gun gameplay and just feel the flow than it does work just not as much of a narrative from Arkane.
What is concerning is it's not even the publishers who forced Arkane to make the game how it is. Bethesda is known for having a very hands-off approach on the developers under it's wings and more or less lets them make what they want.
This I find especially shocking because this game has literally none of arkanes "hallmarks". Generat art direction and artstyle? Nope, it looks nothing like dishonored or prey, it looks like fortnite assets. Interesting and well written dialog and notes left around via notes, recordings, 3d looking glass panels (remember how cool the calvino related stuff in prey was)? Nope, just PowerPoint presentation with reddit tier dialog, it is embarrassing that the theater reel shows still images instead of a video, this was possible and done often in prey. Unique weapons that can be used in multiple ways depending on the situation, sometimes aiding in non combat situations? Nope, just generic guns
Does anybody remember when they tried to do this to machine breezes Wolfenstein reboot.. and we were kind of sitting there wondering if it was machine breezes fault, or arcane's fault or maybe a combination of the both.. well.. I guess this is the answer, and I had a sneaking suspicion about it originally when youngblood came out..
Has anyone realized that the pistol looks normal size in her hand but in the inventory menu it looks 3x bigger and its so large its unrealistic and baffling
![ILLSLICK - KILLSHOT REMIX [FULL VERSION]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RIK8RrqIAzE/mqdefault.jpg)
I like how most of this video is just him running around empty buildings and streets. Thats the real shit.
Don't forget the "cutscenes" in which there are no animation frames
thats what he paid 90 dollars for right?
This seems to be the theme with bethesda for anything following fallout 76
Mobs are a little light early but a few hours in it gets harder and they throw many more and the second area gets insane with multiple factions at war
@@Ahmadabdal_ to be fair, it can be a good. If only they had style to it eg Sly raccoon series
The bird guy is the best, he gets a bird that helps you spot enemies from stealth... Most of his skills give the bird some type of damage, which allerts enemies to your presence, making his whole kit pointless and useless... It is great!
This could be so easily fixed.
- Skill 1: The bird deals damage to the marked target after you damage it
- Skill 2: The bird also deals damage-over-time bleed to the marked target after you damage it
- Skill 3: When the market target notices you, it moves or attacks slower (because it's being pecked by the bird)
- Skill 4: When you kill the marked target, another bird spawns from its corpse and attacks the nearest enemy
- Skill 5: When you kill the marked target, its blood attracts a swarm of birds. AoE crowstorm circles around the corpse for a couple of seconds.
Any of those changes would keep the bird's damaging ability without breaking the stealth aspect.
So basically the bird snitches on you?
@@trontosaurusrex9532 yes 👍
@@bootmanbill2362 that's really funny.
They did this shit to every chars. For example, who can carry more medkits than anyone else? Right, the girl, who has healing utli and healing robot. Because she needs more healing obviously.
They boldly answered the question "what if a game sucked'
Lol that had me cracking up for some reason
If they accomplished nothing else, at least the provided oboeshoegames the perfect opportunity to use the term "milquetoast".
Fuckin gottem 😂
Aaaaaaa it's because the game having vampire
they tried to ignore the age-old wisdom of
"everything woke turns to shit"
-DJT
Watching Arcane fail with Redfall is like seeing Bioware failing with Anthem, some companies are not meant to make multiplayer games.
What’s funny is the mass effect 3 multiplayer was actually kinda fun, at least as a side thing to do.
I played some anthem cause I bought it on sale for like $10 and the shooting was solid. That was really the only good part of the game and it does it too much.
Idk mass effect 3 had super fun multiplayer, sure it was just basically survival but it was fun as hell, anthem was ruined because of ea not BioWare, they also simultaneously killed mass effect because they wanted to make anthem
@@gunnerdown To be fair i didnt even knew Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer until like a couple years after its release i only played Mass Effect for its single player.
@@Startrance85 I don’t even remember when I started playing it but it was a blast especially with friends but hell I played the multiplayer solo sometimes
Watching arkane go from Prey and dishonored to redfall is like watching your friend who was a star athlete turn into a homeless heroin addict
🤣 frfr
zoomer forgot about Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah.
@@DrundeFPS Dark Messiah was cool too. At least we got one more kick-type game in Deathloop...
You forgot about the alcohol and meth.😂
@@DrundeFPS Include that would be like saying "Damn... Disney doesn't make movies like Steamboat Willie anymore..." 😅 Going a little far
The fact they couldn’t even put pathfinding on the enemies shows how much passion was put into this game
I question if the complete lack of AI was a last minute optimization attempt. Imagine how bad the game would run if enemies actually had AI.
@@kmattis2212 Considering they delayed the game to deliver...this, I'd say you're onto something.
We missed out on Prey 2/Dishonored 3 for this garbage.
Microsoft, init.
And this was a project Arkane chose themselves to work on in lieu of those games.
After microsoft buyout Im glad they didnt make more dishonored games its a perfect trilogy
I will never forgive them
That's the future with gamepass, Microsoft know how to ruin studios.😕
You know what Arkane should do? An open world RPG with a loot system set in modern times about a crazy cult and a lot of pop culture references and millennial/gen z dialogue.
Exactttly what I was thinking
Or or… here’s a hot take:
*produce an actual functional and fun game*
(NO MORE FACRY NEW DAWNS PLEASE)
@@Mentelgen-1337 They've done that a few times already. It was time for them to do a Bioware and make a shitty co-op game that nobody asked for instead of making another immersive sim or a stealth game. You know, the things they're good at.
@@Mentelgen-1337 I mean the did, their last great game was prey
This game definitely had graphics and gameplay
When the purple haired diversity hire said "I am the Redfall" I knew for sure that this was one of the games that were ever made.
It definitely had one of those
it truly is the Game of All Time
😂
I'd say that's barely in it... But, it's better to see this than be blind
For those who don’t know the director of Dishonored and Prey left Arkane in 2019ish and then Arkane was split into multiple studios and we got Deathloop and redfall. I genuinely believe he was the visionary which brought the team together. I also wouldn’t be surprised if other team members left.
It's Colantonio right ? He made Weird West in the meantime, and this game looks amazing !
He left in 2017, right after Prey
Do you know why he left? Those were both pretty good titles he directed. You’d think Arkane would have given him more control over their subsequent titles.
@@rKhael53 its ok
@@prestonowens4594 He had enough of Zenimax and Bethesda's bullshit. They destroyed any chance of Prey having commercial success with its name and marketing and didn't want to stick around to see the studio he founded crash and burn because his publishers are chasing trends.
The best games all have HILARIOUS references to student debt. Saints Row 2022, Redfall, y'know all the fan favorites
@Bob Duckington its more millennial "humor" than gen z
Millenial Writing
I, personally, find crushing debt to be hilarious.
What happens when middle aged devs try to appeal to newer generations without knowing anything about them.
I will never forget oboeshoes sacrificed himself to play new tales from the borderlands for us 🫡
Honestly, hearing Oboe rant about anything he's passionate about, be it Bionicle, Borderlands, or Dishonored, always ends up being his most entertaining stuff
It’s a game about vampires. Y’know, the undead. So I guess you could say in this game that THE DEAD SPEAK!
Stop using the internet dad.
Interestingly, the game sucks even harder than vampires about whom it is.
I thought you were going to go with something about it sucking and now I am immeasurably disappointed in both you and all carbon-based life.
"The Telekinetic Threat In Student Debt isn't part of the Dishonored universe! This is the happiest I've ever been!" I actually believe it, I can almost hear emotion in your voice when you say it
Exactly the type of 10 year old game oboe would cover,but now.
Yeah I literally thought the game was using development footage from 2014 but it's unironically a game that's been in development since the late 2010's.
@@swarthybullxxx so many games look like shit straight otta 2013 yet they require a fuckin rtx 3060 ți or something, such a load of bullshit. Ah and the inevitable pc games stutters that every game has nowdays 😭, I havent played a game on my pc in a year, well, tried, by pirateing them, and they all unplayable
@@talpatv512 it's not even really the graphics that makes it look dated. It's the visual style, aesthetic, characters, and bland ass game play that make it look like a game from the beginning of the PS4/Xbone gen. Honestly this game wouldn't have been passable if it was released in 2015 too.
@@swarthybullxxx I feel the same about dead island 2, kind of hot take, whenever I see that health bar on top of enemies and rpg mechanics I just tell myself (this game fuckin sucks ass) im so tired of it, just give me an enjoyable linear experince at least and not a grindfest
Not really. 2013 games were way better than this.
I can't wait to see "footage by oboeshoesgames" as a footnote while this video plays over some guy's 3 hour "The Downfall Of Arkane" video.
Essay youtouber talking about the downfall of arkane studio while the guy in the background video talk about the game suck because it's not dishonored and making joke why helicopter in most video game crash.
I remember saying that this was an "Oboeshoes ass game". I just didn't think it'd come so soon
dead ass
When the game is such a joke, half of the usual jokes are replaced with just explaining Redfall as a game.
The moment I saw a student debt joke in a character selection screen I knew Obo would love it
I feel like everyone had the exact same reaction to this game. Arkane went “Hey, we’re making a Stephen King-inspired vampire fps,” and everyone went wild. Then they said they it was an open-world loiter shooter with rpg elements, and we all knew what was coming…
I mean, anyone who saw the announcement trailer should have known it was going to be bad. It was just that hispter black girl being quirky and I was like "oh god oh god OH GOD"
Given how little there apparently is to do on the map, I feel like “loiter-shooter” might be a more accurate term than it has any right to be
You guys remember how in the first 3 new Wolfenstein games the guns would absolutely mulch whatever you were shooting at, then in that awful co-op sequel they made the guns into RPG weapons that quote numbers instead of annihilating flesh? I don't think guns make good RPG weapons
I agree, every RPG that ive played has very unsatisfying gunplay for some reason. Fallout 4 probably had the best I’ve experienced but even that gunplay was very average (but good by fallout standards), with the downside being them removing several of the roleplay elements from previous games like New Vegas
Borderlands 3 is an RPG and its gunplay is fantastic
Literally Destiny 2...
@@brokenpotato438 To be honest I preferred the gunplay in new vegas, at least in that game you had functional lever actions because apparently nobody at bethesda is capable of making a scripted reload so every weapon they make has to have a magazine.
@@brokenpotato438 for me, it's pretty much the opposite, the only game where guns were interesting to me at all was an a(rpg): torchlight 2
As soon as I saw the first trailers for this game and learned that it was being developed by Arkane, I knew that something was very, very, VERY wrong.
Why?
Because it’s not an Arkane style game
I was a complete fool, a bumbling buffoon, an incredible idiot and thought 'oh shit, Arkane's making a co-op shooter? Will Left 4 Dead not be the only classic co-op shooter anymore?' What funny thoughts I once had.
Bingo
Same, the preview left me wondering what the people at arcane were thinking... And now that it's released!... Wow, such trash
Redfall is basically Arkane going back in time to watch themselves die.
arkane died in 2021 when most of team left
they made weird west after that
and now they're probably doing something else
It's a major relief Redfall is not in the Dishonored universe
Redfall is the "how do you do fellow kids" of video games
"Vampire ex-boyfriend" ah yes because we all loved Scott Pilgrim so much
Is Dishonored 1 your favorite game ever because Corvo's mask sorta resembles a Bionicle mask?
You know too much, Guards!
The hell is bionicle?
I picked dishonored because of the trailers in Germans.
The game was called:
Dishonored:
Mask of anger. Or I guess madness.
Never Daud it.
@@Mentelgen-1337 Kids toys made by lego in the early-mid 2000s.
Indeed, I believe so.
When a game is so mid (or worse), that it's so up Oboe's alley that he releases a video on it immediately, despite being a game that came out last week instead of a decade or more ago.
That said, Redfall may as well have been made in the last decade, so.
"If you played a game the last 10 years you played this one" exactly sums up how I feel about the modern industry of gaming.
Arkane has financially been on the down for a while now. Dishonored 1 was the lightning in a bottle that somehow, despite being an immersive sim, actually made it big--and made the big bucks. Bethesda snapped them up. Then Prey and Dishonored 2 undersold (well, according to Bethady's inflated expectations) and Raphael Colantonio left to found his own company, wolf eye, partially because of those overinflated sales expectations. We all know how publishers treat studios...so Arkane had to think of something fast if they didn't want to eat it. This part is more my speculation, but it seems to me that Arkane has undergone a change in priority.
Prey and Dishonored 2 were amazing games, but they didn't make the sales figures. Enter Deathloop (which has been rumored to have originated as Dishonored 3), and now Redfall, a game chasing a genre alien to its developers and fanbase, and one dominated by the likes of Left 4 Dead, which was never going to be a kind comparison. It's sad, you can still see the sparks of creativity in Redfall--just look at the premise. But it seems these desperate overcorrections aren't going to work, and that makes me worried for their future.
I wouldn’t be surprise if that was case. I’ve seen too many developers try to play it safe or do something utterly different and end up flopping because that wasn’t what the fans wanted. I’m still salty about Studios baking in micro transactions, forcing constant Internet connection and relying on Day 1 patches.
The sad thing is that when a good triple a game "fails" it's not really failure. Arkane is gonna get shut down or go through major restructuring because it made significant profit with its games instead of supplying an exponentially growing stream of infinite money. Companies have unrealistic expectations for games and are insatiably greedy, every new thing has to make more money than the last or they shut down promising studios. Kind of like EA shutting down visceral games despite the fact that the studio was immensely profitable and was creating great games.
I think the writing was on the wall with deathloop. While it wasn’t a bad game (reviewers treated it like the second coming of Christ) the multiplayer component was straight up broken. They also relied heavily on voice-overs and freeze frames instead of cutscenes, which sorta fit the vibe of that game, but definitely doesn’t work for redfall. And the HUGE marketing push for it felt weird and unnatural for what was a fine but not amazing Arkane game. We basically got all that but way worse for redfall
@@seanfussa3076 Well said. This stuff is why I'm more than happy that the indie scene has continued to grow.
I could see this being the final straw. This was supposed to be a new era for Xbox first-party exclusives - a lot was riding on it. Maybe Arkane could turn Redfall around but they may not get the chance.
I mean, I like that the pistol is actually an effective weapon. I'm sure it gets worse as the enemies become level-dependent bullet-sponges and the weapon tiers take priority, but it was nice to see an enemy drop without unloading the whole magazine.
I personally loved how the enemy dropped to the ground while his gun drops to the horizon here 3:58
@@LordofSadFac GoTY
@@LordofSadFac The game can only render six weapons at any time so it warped to the next enemy. That's what we call "optimisation!"
@@bofa722 True GOTY game (of the year)
"Level dependent bullet sponges". Hate to break it to you, that doesn't happen. You'd think it would with the weapon tier system but it doesn't. There are some "bosses" that you can beat by strafing or by standing behind items... They take a couple more shots.
I honestly can't explain how bad this game is.
5:57 you know, I used to complain about daytime vampires in pop culture too... but turns out, Dracula can walk in day time just fine, according to the original novel. Vampires dying to sunlight was popularised by the 1922 movie "Nosferatu".
Be isn’t just fine, it takes a lot of his powers and makes in “incredibly cranky”. The book describes him as a spoiled child when in sunlight as opposed to his creature of the night motif he has during the night.
@@Dap1ssmonk Fair enough.
The first Amy type Arkane-Studios game
The amy jokes will never get old
Oboe sounds so melancholic at 2:03, it's really sad to hear him drop the usual act cause Arkane messed up this badly.
The children yearn for Left 4 Dead
Valve come home, I know VR tech demos are easy and steam is an infinite money printer but please come home.
Valve has heard you, and they're gonna be adding some L4D hats to the next TF2 update.
Amen
I swear the crashing military helicopter is one of my favorite running gags on this channel. It just keeps happening with no intention of stopping.
Ah yes, of course, you know a game is good when it has PowerPoint cutscenes (of course not to generalise)
You’ve never heard of vignettes?
I have yet to see a single video game that did PowerPoint cutscenes well. They almost always ruin the entire story. They're up there with blank screen and text "cutscenes".
I thought that's just what Arkane does? Dishonored also had PowerPoint cutscenes
@@haley746 As i said not to generalise. I am only saying it because this Is a bad game
@@coltonwilkie241 Infamous. One example of unique and stylish powerpoint cutscenes.
"I'm just not even going to consider this one to be part of Arkane's catalog."
Ah, so it's the Enterprise-G of Arkane games.
Now _that_ is a reference I can agree with! Go Titan-A!
Can’t wait for 6 months down the line where they slowly patch this game and gamers be like “Wow Arcane did amazing work they redeemed themselves”
ya cant polish a turd
I don't see that happening honestly, so many problems with Redfall just arent repairable. You can fix poor performance in the short term but you can't patch in an interesting story and characters or a completely new loot system that isn't ripped right from Destiny. Not that they should try, just make the game playable then move on to new things cus no one wants this.
@@connorokeefe67 FF14 did it, but yeah, I don't see Bethesda letting money go to that.
cyberpunk moment
@@draconariusa7v421 That game never redeemed anything, cant fix bad plot/writing/characters.
Nice to know that this is what 70 bucks gets us these days, game devs really needed the price increase from us.
Microsoft and Bethesda are small indie publishers.
Imo the standard should still be around 40, like the spike to 60 came out of nowhere and i still don't like *that* even years later
Are the four characters just self inserts for the 4 interns they had working on this game???
Your explanation of it being good click bait background gameplay is spot on. I usually watch those videos always thinking "what fkn random game is this?" without enough interest to actually find out because It looks so generic so I just listen to the topic. This is PERFECT for that
9:35 I'm not kidding but this was indeed great news for me as a fellow Dishonored fan
Honestly the development of this game feels exactly how I used to do my homeworks. I try to focus, realize it’s harder than I thought, starts writing answers looking away and just praying it’ll work when I give it back to the teacher.
Remember when we all lived in the ignorant bliss that Redfall was the Elder Scrolls 6 title? Yea me too.
wow! this game sure does have incredibly topical humor! i was rolling on the floor laughing with the student debt comment!!!!
please let me out arkane studios has me hostage
just go thrue the hole under the toilet its the only way out but it works
"Dead ass" haha! so relatable!
please let my family go.
@@jackl45 well only one escape for freeee
@@jackl45 Dude If I hear that one more time I swear, dead ass.
can't wait for the co-op video of you, OJ, and Alex playing this game.
Hot out the gate with the Phil Spencer joke! Now THAT'S pod racing
It truely was a moment
Goodness grief. I feel like big budget videogames really are at a low ebb at the minute (tbh, it's been years now).
I'd love to see what the hell happened to the talent at these studios that have become a husk of themselves, such as Arkane and DICE. Did they leave (and if so, where exactly?) or did they just give up or something?
Arkane lost it's main director that did their best games. More than that it's hard to know.
As for dice, there were a lot of ex dice developers around for a while. Most seemingly ended up at Embark studios, but they haven't released anything outside of some interesting tech research projects and a trailer for a game I think.
The stopped hiring people who are actually interested/capable of making good things. The people who makes these games is reflected in the quality, characters and tone and let's just say these aren't people who arent traditionally known for making innovative and fun things.
I honestly think its a lot of things. One being the industry just changing as a whole for these big titles, they seemed rushed to meet a date and planned out by people who don't care. And the bigger the title the more crunch time/interference. That's why oboe saying they should tell the studio "hey go make whatever you want" is quite literally the best option lol.
Never thought I would see a Morbin Time Simulator game get made. 10 out of 10, will Morb Again.
Very interesting watching this after hearing that the studio will be closed
the thumbnail predicted the future
Making Arkane to make generic AAA shooter is like making David Lynch to make MCU movie.
I didn't get the sunlight either. The sun is gone......but it's still daylight? Which is it?
I’m sorry oboe, the good advice you gave to arkane and the sincere disappointment was actually quite sad, I’m with you on dishonoured
Olds joking about student debt is like them saying "Heh remember that time I burned you with my cigarette? Oh look you still have the scar! Can't believe you let me do that to you, good times."
My favorite type of video game to laugh at is "Let's make a studio known for it's interesting unique well-beloved games make the current industry cashgrab"
If only this game had Kohrak the Ice Bohrok
Bro, student debt is a very serious issue in Redfall.
Loved Dishonored 1 as well
Frankly, the studio which created Dishonored no longer exists. Its a common problem with studios in the long run. Regardless of the studio, or prestige behind it the first 2 generations of employees have something to prove.
The studio has no reputation, but employees have time, and energy, they create something great. They build a reputation, and the slowly retire. Generation 3 of employees generally care less about sacrifice to make something good. Every generation after proceeds to decline further.
With time the people who made the studio, the ones who built the legend leave, or retire, you are left with folks who where not part of this history, only there because of the name. Have little to offer, and think because the studio is well known stuff will just work out. They slack, figure others will catch their slack, problem is all the good employees have already moved on, or retired.
You're left with a studio that has nothing in common with the team which made it great beyond the name alone. That's what this is, it's proof the original group of employees who made it great are no longer present.
Every well known studio suffers from this same fate, the people who had the time, energy, and willing to sacrifice to produce something great either retire, or get out numbered by new highers. Year after year is simply a steady, and consistent decline.
tough at least the WolfEye Studios was created
with the Raphael Colantonio who was Founder, and former Creative Director at Arkane Studios and Julien Roby who is former Executive producer at Arkane Studios.
I think this is why it’s a good idea for companies to dissolve, or at the very least change their company’s name, once their core members are gone. Leave the current team to make it on their own merits without the name recognition.
Nothing is meant to last forever.
1 good thing about Redfall: it introduced me to your channel. Now I'm binging your content and subscribed, great stuff dude.
From Dark Messiah to this....
why do these companies that try and add cringy dialogue also have a weird reference to everyone thats young being in student debt? Like is this something they want people to get excited and happy about? "haha shes poor and hopeless like me, but shes for some reason smiling".
6:09
Actually all vampires prior to nosferatu weren't really effected by sunlight.
this game has that ubisoft style, like it's trying to be fun, smart, thoughtful and and and at the same time, but ending up being a boring a and replaceable occupational therapy in a lifeless open world.
i absolutely loved prey, it was such a smart and atmospheric game, seeing arcane going from prey to this is really sad.
How can it not be amazing when the characters and marketing are so stunning and brave?
neeeed moreee stuning more brave it`s not enough
@Rebel Mike yes when there's zero white males then it will be perfect
Man, those student debts need to be paid even in the world infested with vampires.
hahaha that shit is just ridiculous
Whoa whoa two uploads in two days? Christmas came early thanks Santa Shoes
Since there are Dishonored references, does redfall take place in a universe where the far superior video game Dishonored was released?
I knew before seeing any gameplay just from the photos and the price tag they were asking for on steam that this game will fail. And it did. I’m happy
You know, Oboe, I’m gonna be honest. I know this video isn’t your usual, hyper-sarcastic style, but I really did like it! It spoke from the heart, and it showed that not only do you clearly have strong and well-intentioned negative feelings for this game in particular, but that you also have a level of insight and cleverness to articulate those feelings well, and in a way that’s still entertaining. Of course, I still really enjoy your other, more zany videos, but I want you to know that this more sober, honest style of video/discussion also very much works to your strengths. And it still fun and enjoyable all throughout. Cheers!
It speaks volumes that almost all his jokes/riffs are straight from his head/livestream
Maaaaaaaaaa, I buried the PC release of Dishonored 2 deep in my brain and you brought that memory back
If you want a better vampire game, play Shadows Over Loathing. I mean, it's a standard RPG game, but even the "hit E to stat check to shoot the head vampire" is better than this entire game. Plus, it has C O M E D Y.
The game definition of "So that just happened"
Probably my favorite video to date, because I can relate so easily. I watched Assassin's Creed go from interesting historical adventure to an insanely padded mess of an "RPG". Valhalla was my Redfall and I'm glad to commiserate over the loss of a once talented studio
These AC games are ARPG, not RPG
yeah a historical adventure of fighting a wizard pope with magic apple. take off your nostalgia glasses.
@@wrathava😂 so true!
Imagine a 30 days of night game an open sandbox set in the town/outside area where the objective is survive the 30 nights. Just made really dark, cold and terrifying and making the Vampires genuinely scary and otherworld like the film/comic.
But, this...... Jesus...
It's odd how when studios are bought by Microsoft, they tend to go from making great games to making shit games or just not making games at all. Weird how that happens A LOT.
It's so obvious how bad they are at managing their studios. Sad part is there are a lot of loyal Xbox fans who will defend them forever because being an "Xbox fan" as opposed to a "PS fan" is part of their personality. So Microsoft will continue to get away with feeding their playerbase complete shit without actually losing more players.
Hopefully regulators get their shit together and stop letting them buy whatever they want to buy so they don't ruin anymore good studios.
They did not involve themselves in this game, redfall was in development for years before the buy out, someone explained this already in another comment
@@JotaPS88 But they had to have been aware of the state of the game before shipping it.
Tango had Ghostwire, but then they also had HiFi, and while Ghostwire was a struggle with creative leads (I'd still hold Mircosoft slightly accountable for the final product, and I LIKED Ghostwire but its still has issues that should have been caught) but HiFi was only greenlit under the pretense that I'd be a day one gamepass. Psychonauts 2 was also saved by Microsofts funding as it also had blunders with its project director and new team members, however unlike Ghostwire, that Microsoft money went into cutting the fat and building up the parts that worked.
Granted we still haven't seen anything new from Double Fine yet, but if you ask me the biggest issue with Microsofts cannibalization is that they don't care, they aren't exhibiting complete creative control which could be good, but they aren't directing bad projects toward success and their funding is so fucking mismatched.
Don't get me wrong, I am very worried that Double Fine's next game could be dog water, and not in the way that Double Fine experiments are NORMALLY hit or miss. More in a asking a studio known for adventure games to make a shitty Hades clone or a Mario Odyessy kind of fucked up.
Just Microsoft? For a long time now we seem to be going into a huge creative crisis caused by economic crisis that the big corps are trying to hide while also trying to keep us individuals from making our own pieces and criticizing theirs.
I blame the fact that we don't meet announcements of the "lover service co-op looter shooter with gearscore." With the same open hostility we do pay to win lootboxes.
For a guy who rags on video essays, he makes a decent video essay.
It's a terrible video essay: it's entertaining and doesn't vastly outstay its welcome.
i played dishonored for a few hours and then stopped for some reason, but everyone talking about this is making me want to go back to it. thank you redfall.
It was the same for me as far as dishonored goes. Multiple times now, I tried to do a playthrough, but after 2-3 hours, I just stopped playing it.
Same for me. Prey blew it out of the water. I don’t think dishonored holds up. It’s like budget bioschock
was actually excited for this game, idk why i expected anything else
Me either. What exactly were you excited about? It looked god-awful from the get go.
@@StrengthScholar0 he’s probably excited cuz it’s Arkane and they used to do good stuff. I loooooved Dishonored and Prey, but even I looked at this and felt it gave me Anthem vibes. 😅
@John Doe Jesus anthem what a awful piece of 💩
@@StrengthScholar0 the trailers made it look like a Borderlands type game which I like
Titanfall,Redfall
Any game title ending in “fall” should have absolutely 0 expectations
I'd rather pay my STUDENT DEBT than play this for free
It's like third or fourth disaster this year, and there's barely May!
This is definitely one of the games ever made.
I will never ever understand why someone would pay money for an outfit in a first person game, like, youre paying extra money for smth u cant freaking see anyway
@@thomasneal9291 True, my bad, absolutely legit reason, consider my comment pointless.... xD
This game was not made by Harvey Smith, it was made by Colin Robinson, that's why it is draining my energy.
I was more lukewarm/surprisingly positive of Deathloop when it first came out, if you want the Dishonored experience with save scumming you'll be disappointed but then get used to the run and gun gameplay and just feel the flow than it does work just not as much of a narrative from Arkane.
I don't remember Oboeshoesgames ever be this depressed.
I'm also glad that someone else was so annoyed that deathloop is in the Dishonored world. It's my head canon that... nope. it's not at all.
What is concerning is it's not even the publishers who forced Arkane to make the game how it is. Bethesda is known for having a very hands-off approach on the developers under it's wings and more or less lets them make what they want.
This I find especially shocking because this game has literally none of arkanes "hallmarks". Generat art direction and artstyle? Nope, it looks nothing like dishonored or prey, it looks like fortnite assets. Interesting and well written dialog and notes left around via notes, recordings, 3d looking glass panels (remember how cool the calvino related stuff in prey was)? Nope, just PowerPoint presentation with reddit tier dialog, it is embarrassing that the theater reel shows still images instead of a video, this was possible and done often in prey. Unique weapons that can be used in multiple ways depending on the situation, sometimes aiding in non combat situations? Nope, just generic guns
@@adrianoippolito1999 Apparently, much of the team that was working on the previous titles are no longer with Arkane.
Even the PowerPoint cutscenes have texture pop
we have effectively moved from "don't pre-order" to "don't purchase any games on day one"
Everything that was bad about Deathloop and Dishonored 2 was ported to Redfall
"They're sacrificing their neightbors to those monsters, d e a d a s s."
_Insert live action Michael Mando as Vass screaming "Shut the fuck up!"_
"There's Vampires? OK I guess there's vampires now. So...that's a thing. The only thing that sucks more than vampires is my student debt. Deadass."
Does anybody remember when they tried to do this to machine breezes Wolfenstein reboot.. and we were kind of sitting there wondering if it was machine breezes fault, or arcane's fault or maybe a combination of the both.. well.. I guess this is the answer, and I had a sneaking suspicion about it originally when youngblood came out..
Machine games isn't great either, New Colossus is pretty mid all things considered
"In student loan" Saints Row Reboot flashbacks
I like how this started as a video essay then it devolved into your friend being real with you over a call about Redfall.
Good content!
The student debt thing gave me saints row reboot flashbacks
All this game needs to be good is a Bionicle total conversion mod lol
Has anyone realized that the pistol looks normal size in her hand but in the inventory menu it looks 3x bigger and its so large its unrealistic and baffling