We love you Megan! I fine the way you process information raw and naturally, very helpful to me- a 42 year old woman, with GAD and ADHD. Thanks for being sooooo vulnerable
Megan you are spot on with setting boundaries, especially for me with family members that think I must not love them if I don’t tell them “everything” that’s going on my life. Thank you for validating this for me…do you secretly know my situation? Lol. Love your channel. BJ
Hi Megan I found your "live" late,late at night. I woke up with a cramp a I get to listen to you as I nurse my leg and fall back to sleep😂. Love always 😂❤
I wonder if she wants to represent herself so she can cross examine people who she felt were co-conspirators or complicit like Melanie G and Zulema? She has nothing to lose so she could expose things that may lead to possible charges for others?
She had been interviewed and can share any of the involvement and knowledge they had. I believe it’s her way to have all eye on her. I’m sure she’ll be able to have clothing, hair, makeup to look better as her own attorney. She definitely wants control and power once again.
Hi Megan in Maricopa County all inmates wear pink socks, underwear etc. The sheriff did that unpurpose because innmates don't like it. There is also a huge sign that flashes on an off continuously at the jail that reads Vacancy😅
Megan, do you have a pay-pal or Venmo acct I can donate to? I couldn’t find anything on your website or TH-cam channel. You are a great deep breathe of fresh air. Thank you, Penny from vegas
I believe that Tylee told her grandmother what really happened. Remember the time Adam went to his parents and Tylee was crying and wouldn’t look at Adam. That’s why they un-alived Tylee then with Tylee being gone JJ was uncontrollable and got on Lori’s nerves that’s why he was un-alived. Just my thoughts.
I wonder when she is talking to the witnesses that she may have to explain herself there by implicating herself. The more control she gets, the worse the outcome for her. I want justice for Brandon and charles for sure, but the fact that she is not admitting and going through with trial is tragic enough . She can't give anyone any sort of peace, even though she is never getting out of prison, unbelievable. Charles has justice in my mind when her and chud got sentenced. We all know what happened, and she is going to die in prison. Prayers to the victims' families.
I am confused. I thought LV was committed to a forensic hospital/institution when she had been found/deemed incompetent & was restored to competency for her trial. I feel sure during her treatment she was diagnosed and for the love of God why the Judge, jury, Prosecutor & public should be deprived of it. I do not understand. Gratitude & respect Megan for covering this with such dignity, honesty & clarity….🙏💙
Megan, have you done a deep dive on Lori's father, Barry? If so, please let me know which video it is. My hunch is that Barry is actually the head [narcissist, psychopath, take your pick], his wife is the enabler, and Lori is the Golden child. Does Barry do interviews? It would be so interesting to see you in conversation with him.
Nope. I agree with your assessment but I will not be doing any deep dives publicly. I don’t speak to Barry and I don’t speak about Barry except when asked a direct question that has an answer I can legally verify either through my own personal experience or through documentation.
@@Third_Verse You just said it all right there, thanks for that. I think all those ppl perseverating on Lori would get a lot more insights if they start getting more curious about Barry.
We never heard anything about Alex and Lori's hands being tested for gun-residue that has bugged me all these years . And Megan you made me sad for you that when Lori handlled you while you lived with her to her mom even more when you now say , you thinking it was normal , it was not gf ! Lori explained in her own words how of a great mom she was , when she stated ; She joined JJ and Tylee outside because she jumped into mom-mode when she heard the shot ( there were 2 while she only says 1 ) then she sent poor Tylee back inside to fetch her wallet which she had forgotten . What mom would send in the child to do that after hearing a shot fired ???? Adam should have never called Alex and visited his family he was there before it all happened !
Im perplexed as to Lori's motivation for wanting to go pro se. When i remember how at her former trial, her lawyers didn't really even put on a defense .. is it possible that Lori will do the same and could her motivation be that she just wants this to be over with as soon as possible? I heard that she hates where shes at now and wants to be back in Idaho. And defense attorneys tend to always file continuances, delay, delay... Maybe she thinks if shes pro se, things can go faster and get it over with faster? What do you think? Edited to add, i also heard her new attorney lady mention speedy trial in this hearing. So im assuming she has not waived it?
Ya, That woman'child' sent her daughter back into the house after the gun shot to get woman'child's' darn purse. Pretty sure her death had alot to do with day terrors, night terrors and the truth. Period.
The lawyer sounds like she's got a bad cold. I can't imagine having to do her job while not feeling well. I feel bad for her. She's giving it her all, though. I don't agree with her, but she has a job to do.
My guess is Lori’s attorneys wanted to put some of the guilt on Chad and Lori wasn’t having it so she wants to represent herself so no one throws Chad under the bus. Also I think she wants to question Kay which irritates me. If she represents herself she can’t appeal on ineffective counsel.
Did the lawyer really think the judge wouldn't know that she was found incompetent before? She did state that there wasn't supposed to be previous incompetency??? Unless i misunderstood? Lori seemed to try and say it was a just in case thing in Idaho, when it clearly wasn't. I don't think she understood 10 months and many many evaluators was not a good thing. Wondering about her lawyer as well. She was telling her exactly what to say. I am all about rights as a US citizen, even Lori's. However, shouldn't her defense lawyers be realistic? I mean if the lawyer is supposed to be acting in her best interest, shouldn't they be on board with the evaluators? Instead of saying half truths about what the judge, one evaluator etc said? Side note, i think Lori's image is everything to her.
@Third_Verse yes, Lori representing herself could be: "I am the smartest person in the room". Power driven. Imho Lori, like others like her, would enjoy "sticking" it to her accusers. She was so manipulative in her answers. Like "that's just what they had to say to get her in there" (speaking of the institution for incompetency she went to) no coaching on that one. She actually did better on the half truths than her current lawyer and her half truths, All of which could be easily disproven. Like judge Boyce said, (paraphrasing) "you went far down the rabbit hole and are still down there". She is a danger to the community. Cults are dangerous period. I just wish there were rules in place that people like her cannot continue that coercive behavior in prison. Hopefully idaho doesn't change the laws on lwop like other states have and she will never be eligible for parole. Sorry for the long rant. Lol
Isn’t this case a conspiracy to commit murder case ? Wouldn’t this be incredibly risky in terms of problems in the future icw grounds for appeal ? Thank you for covering this Megan
Lori being and looking annoyed by all of this I get, since she believes to be the most reasonable goddess in the world, but her lawyer seemed annoyed as well? Idk something was off
@@Third_Verse Anyways it's better than Lori representing herself... We got a sample of that when she was asked about previous incompetency, bending the facts with long answers
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. Charles was shot twice I believe the first shot by Alex and the second (once Charles was down) Lori shot him again just for fun.
I don't know if you covered this but to my knowledge Lori was never excommunicated, therefore leading her to believe her delusions. Is there any evidence the church excommunicated her?
I like your comments but I Can't really listen to that defense attorney she sounds like she's going to have some kind of an episode. She sounds as wackadoodle as her client
Ok you, Alex,the weird uncle and Kylee’s Aunt…did I miss any family member that not using this tragedy into a grift. Oh yeah can’t forget Summers appearance at Crime Con
Curious as to why you would come here and be an insensitive bitch towards Megan and family? Did your family member get murdered or hurt Probably not. On this note, they don’t have to answer to your BS question. This is a good, respectful community. I’ve been helped tremendously by Megan. ☮️
Hi, thanks for watching and commenting! It really helps support the channel. If you listen with an open mind, you know that I started my channel and podcast to help trauma survivors heal and to help people love themselves better. My book and podcast have nothing to do with Lori. Also there are plenty family members who are totally silent and want nothing to do with talking about the case. Cheers!
🌵Sooo many thoughts here. One, is that Lori would go even so far as to tell Tylee that she was fat. So that beautiful girl, all of her short life, was taught that she was fat and so, flawed😡! Now should she be deamed competent to represent herself, I would be extremely perplexed and would question the competency of the people instrumental😫to that conclusion!!! Megan, your definition of "hell" is very similar to mine. I believe that she will experience much anguish... p.s. welcome to the 35 years of age club! I'm 62-35😉!🫶🏼 p.p.s. Megan, I surrre love you wityness: 🥩"steak" center, "steak" 🥩meeting, "steak" 🥩conference😂!
We love you Megan! I fine the way you process information raw and naturally, very helpful to me- a 42 year old woman, with GAD and ADHD. Thanks for being sooooo vulnerable
You are so good at sorting this all out and so wise and how you have handled it, I commend you
Thank you for sharing healthy ways of dealing with trauma❤️
You’re doing a great job covering this, especially with your excellent explanations 👍
Thank you kindly!
Really good live (watching the rewatch). Keep up the excellent work
Thank you, Megan
Thanks
Thanks!
Thank you so much!!
Megan you are spot on with setting boundaries, especially for me with family members that think I must not love them if I don’t tell them “everything” that’s going on my life. Thank you for validating this for me…do you secretly know my situation? Lol. Love your channel. BJ
Love that! I think it's just more common than we think lol
Amen
Hi Megan I found your "live" late,late at night. I woke up with a cramp a I get to listen to you as I nurse my leg and fall back to sleep😂. Love always 😂❤
Thanks for covering this
Her attorney seemed quite nervous. Agree with you about the voice. Speeding this up.
You’re doing a great job Megan!
🙏 thank you
I don’t know when you changed your background but I love it!
Thank you. Watching from Alaska. 🤔
I wonder if she wants to represent herself so she can cross examine people who she felt were co-conspirators or complicit like Melanie G and Zulema? She has nothing to lose so she could expose things that may lead to possible charges for others?
I think it is more likely she would bring the ones who already suffered enough....
You are giving LV more credit & power than she has earned & deserves. This needs to be an air-tight case.
She had been interviewed and can share any of the involvement and knowledge they had. I believe it’s her way to have all eye on her. I’m sure she’ll be able to have clothing, hair, makeup to look better as her own attorney.
She definitely wants control and power once again.
The attorney grates on my ears too.
She has dysphonia. A friend of mine has it, too. Susan Collins is an example of a significant disorder.
Catching the replay 😊
Great job on this!
Thank you! Cheers!
Oh my goodness, I can't believe you and Lori are so close in age. You look years and years younger than her.
Thank you Megan. Her lawyer was quite overwrought. Probably a heavy workload?
Hi Megan in Maricopa County all inmates wear pink socks, underwear etc. The sheriff did that unpurpose because innmates don't like it. There is also a huge sign that flashes on an off continuously at the jail that reads Vacancy😅
They made the male inmates wear pink as well
Megan, you've been a busy bee today and tonight! 🐝🐝🐝❤❤❤
Megan, do you have a pay-pal or Venmo acct I can donate to? I couldn’t find anything on your website or TH-cam channel. You are a great deep breathe of fresh air. Thank you, Penny from vegas
Yes! My Venmo is @third_verse
Thank you Penny!
Is it significant that she seems to have dropped the Daybell name?
I don’t think she dropped the Daybell name. I just think that she gets called Vallow because that’s her legal name.
Who’s Adam who called Lori out ?! Thxs Megan you’re Heaven sent !!
Adam is Lori's brother
The attorney sounds really nervous.
I believe that Tylee told her grandmother what really happened. Remember the time Adam went to his parents and Tylee was crying and wouldn’t look at Adam. That’s why they un-alived Tylee then with Tylee being gone JJ was uncontrollable and got on Lori’s nerves that’s why he was un-alived. Just my thoughts.
I wonder when she is talking to the witnesses that she may have to explain herself there by implicating herself. The more control she gets, the worse the outcome for her. I want justice for Brandon and charles for sure, but the fact that she is not admitting and going through with trial is tragic enough . She can't give anyone any sort of peace, even though she is never getting out of prison, unbelievable. Charles has justice in my mind when her and chud got sentenced. We all know what happened, and she is going to die in prison. Prayers to the victims' families.
First time observing this 2 days later - yes, this attorney's voice is very grating on my nerves.
I am confused. I thought LV was committed to a forensic hospital/institution when she had been found/deemed incompetent & was restored to competency for her trial. I feel sure during her treatment she was diagnosed and for the love of God why the Judge, jury, Prosecutor & public should be deprived of it. I do not understand.
Gratitude & respect Megan for covering this with such dignity, honesty & clarity….🙏💙
The microphone the attorney is using makes the voice even more difficult to listen to.
Megan, have you done a deep dive on Lori's father, Barry? If so, please let me know which video it is. My hunch is that Barry is actually the head [narcissist, psychopath, take your pick], his wife is the enabler, and Lori is the Golden child. Does Barry do interviews? It would be so interesting to see you in conversation with him.
Nope. I agree with your assessment but I will not be doing any deep dives publicly. I don’t speak to Barry and I don’t speak about Barry except when asked a direct question that has an answer I can legally verify either through my own personal experience or through documentation.
@@Third_Verse You just said it all right there, thanks for that. I think all those ppl perseverating on Lori would get a lot more insights if they start getting more curious about Barry.
We never heard anything about Alex and Lori's hands being tested for gun-residue that has bugged me all these years . And Megan you made me sad for you that when Lori handlled you while you lived with her to her mom even more when you now say , you thinking it was normal , it was not gf ! Lori explained in her own words how of a great mom she was , when she stated ; She joined JJ and Tylee outside because she jumped into mom-mode when she heard the shot ( there were 2 while she only says 1 ) then she sent poor Tylee back inside to fetch her wallet which she had forgotten . What mom would send in the child to do that after hearing a shot fired ???? Adam should have never called Alex and visited his family he was there before it all happened !
Im perplexed as to Lori's motivation for wanting to go pro se. When i remember how at her former trial, her lawyers didn't really even put on a defense .. is it possible that Lori will do the same and could her motivation be that she just wants this to be over with as soon as possible? I heard that she hates where shes at now and wants to be back in Idaho. And defense attorneys tend to always file continuances, delay, delay... Maybe she thinks if shes pro se, things can go faster and get it over with faster? What do you think?
Edited to add, i also heard her new attorney lady mention speedy trial in this hearing. So im assuming she has not waived it?
She has not waived it, that's correct. I think her pro se request is all ego. She thinks she can do a better job than her attorneys.
Why is she is still referred as Vallo? Isn't she married to Chad Daybell?
She never changed her name legally to Daybell so the court calls her Vallow
I think that might be a DSM lV book.
I think answers to what tylee knew and was living through was in the song she was humming.
Megan your voice never sends like that 😂
Ya, That woman'child' sent her daughter back into the house after the gun shot to get woman'child's' darn purse. Pretty sure her death had alot to do with day terrors, night terrors and the truth. Period.
The lawyer sounds like she's got a bad cold. I can't imagine having to do her job while not feeling well. I feel bad for her. She's giving it her all, though. I don't agree with her, but she has a job to do.
I also wonder if the camera is picking up some of the sound too.
My guess is Lori’s attorneys wanted to put some of the guilt on Chad and Lori wasn’t having it so she wants to represent herself so no one throws Chad under the bus. Also I think she wants to question Kay which irritates me. If she represents herself she can’t appeal on ineffective counsel.
The attorney😢 that is speaking for Lori her voice is likee nails on a chall board thanks for turning it down.
Did she perhaps have bloodied flip flops, the ones she bought were a size too small for her. Someone mentioned this and pointed it out.
Interesting - I haven’t heard that theory, but I suppose it’s possible
Wouldn't it be good for her to represent herself? She will just destroy herself on the public stage.
Did the lawyer really think the judge wouldn't know that she was found incompetent before? She did state that there wasn't supposed to be previous incompetency??? Unless i misunderstood? Lori seemed to try and say it was a just in case thing in Idaho, when it clearly wasn't. I don't think she understood 10 months and many many evaluators was not a good thing.
Wondering about her lawyer as well. She was telling her exactly what to say.
I am all about rights as a US citizen, even Lori's. However, shouldn't her defense lawyers be realistic? I mean if the lawyer is supposed to be acting in her best interest, shouldn't they be on board with the evaluators?
Instead of saying half truths about what the judge, one evaluator etc said? Side note, i think Lori's image is everything to her.
I hope her defense attorneys fight tooth and nail for her. That way she can't appeal. Either way, she will never leave prison.
@Third_Verse yes,
Lori representing herself could be:
"I am the smartest person in the room".
Power driven.
Imho Lori, like others like her, would enjoy "sticking" it to her accusers. She was so manipulative in her answers.
Like "that's just what they had to say to get her in there" (speaking of the institution for incompetency she went to) no coaching on that one. She actually did better on the half truths than her current lawyer and her half truths, All of which could be easily disproven.
Like judge Boyce said, (paraphrasing) "you went far down the rabbit hole and are still down there".
She is a danger to the community. Cults are dangerous period.
I just wish there were rules in place that people like her cannot continue that coercive behavior in prison. Hopefully idaho doesn't change the laws on lwop like other states have and she will never be eligible for parole.
Sorry for the long rant. Lol
Self defense...2 bullets???
Isn’t this case a conspiracy to commit murder case ? Wouldn’t this be incredibly risky in terms of problems in the future icw grounds for appeal ? Thank you for covering this Megan
Yes, it’s a conspiracy case and yes, I think it’s very risky for her to go pro se
The state attorney sounds like she has a sinus infection and needs some nasal spray
Lori being and looking annoyed by all of this I get, since she believes to be the most reasonable goddess in the world, but her lawyer seemed annoyed as well? Idk something was off
I think her main attorney was very nervous today.
@@Third_Verse Anyways it's better than Lori representing herself... We got a sample of that when she was asked about previous incompetency, bending the facts with long answers
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. Charles was shot twice I believe the first shot by Alex and the second (once Charles was down) Lori shot him again just for fun.
Why would Lori want to represent herself?
So she can be in control and on display!
Is she no longer using the Daybell name?
She never legally changed it to Daybell so the state calls her Vallow.
Hey Beautiful human Megan- Is it possible that Lori will be allowed to talk to Chad if she is allowed to represent herself?
I believe they are able to communicate on the phone and send messages since they are not both charged in this case.
Her hair is ridiculous! 😂😂😂 Maltese hair style 👱🏼♀️
This is just stall tactics to keep the truth from coming out about Lori’s family and their involvement. They were enabling I think.
I thought that was Lori barking🦮🦮🦮😂
Do we know WHY she wants to go pro se? Is it financial or mental? Is she still in touch with the daybells?
I suspect it’s about her hubris and wanting to be in control. I do believe she still communicates with chat, but I can’t be certain.
That hairdo pulls up wrinkles
Yes in UK it's called The Council Estate facelift!
HAHA I love it
Seems there is a prison fashion, the culture in prison is different. Hairstyle is strange.
💖💃💖
I don't know if you covered this but to my knowledge Lori was never excommunicated, therefore leading her to believe her delusions. Is there any evidence the church excommunicated her?
I have not seen evidence of that, just rumors.
I like your comments but I Can't really listen to that defense attorney she sounds like she's going to have some kind of an episode. She sounds as wackadoodle as her client
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Personally, I don't really care for you as a person. I want to follow the Lori case, so here I am.
Thanks!
Ok you, Alex,the weird uncle and Kylee’s Aunt…did I miss any family member that not using this tragedy into a grift. Oh yeah can’t forget Summers appearance at Crime Con
Curious as to why you would come here and be an insensitive bitch towards Megan and family? Did your family member get murdered or hurt Probably not.
On this note, they don’t have to answer to your BS question.
This is a good, respectful community. I’ve been helped tremendously by Megan.
☮️
Hi, thanks for watching and commenting! It really helps support the channel. If you listen with an open mind, you know that I started my channel and podcast to help trauma survivors heal and to help people love themselves better. My book and podcast have nothing to do with Lori. Also there are plenty family members who are totally silent and want nothing to do with talking about the case. Cheers!
@@Third_Verse
You make me better, when I lose it. 🕊️
@@SherriOterri744 you’re worried about it so much but can’t get the victim’s name correct.
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🌵Sooo many thoughts here. One, is that Lori would go even so far as to tell Tylee that she was fat. So that beautiful girl, all of her short life, was taught that she was fat and so, flawed😡!
Now should she be deamed competent to represent herself, I would be extremely perplexed and would question the competency of the people instrumental😫to that conclusion!!! Megan, your definition of "hell" is very similar to mine. I believe that she will experience much anguish...
p.s. welcome to the 35 years of age club! I'm 62-35😉!🫶🏼
p.p.s. Megan, I surrre love you wityness: 🥩"steak" center, "steak" 🥩meeting, "steak" 🥩conference😂!
Thanks!
Thank you!!