I am a single adult man who gave up on dating. Womens' expectations today are extremely childish and impossible to meet. A woman who is barely a four on a one-to-ten scale expects to marry a man who is a ten. The delusional entitlement is through the roof today. It is narcissism on steroids. Women complain, "Where are all the good men today?" while they have casual bedroom fun with the sexy bad boys covered in tattoos who treat them like crap. It's an impossible situation and I refuse to play along any longer. I'm going my own way.
How old are you? I know some younger men are now dating older women, because they have more traditional values. It's working for me. Less drama, no hormonal ups and downs, no need for birth control, and we teach each other something every day. And the sex is 🔥.
61-year-old white man here, this attitude is what drove me to date, black women, because this was the attitude I got from white women. Only to be met with this same attitude with black women. So, I went offshore and found a beautiful 40-year-old Filipina. She doesn't ask to look at my bank account or for money, she wants me to provide a caring loving, and respectful environment where we are partners, lovers, and friends and at the end of the day, we work on the relationship towards happiness. Sadly, I have to fly 20+ hours to find a woman to give me the time of day without attitude. I agree with your video, but the problem is much worse than you mentioned here.
For me, I would absolutely love to have a good relationship with a woman. The sad reality, at least for me, is that is impossible. There are far too many rules, far too many double standards, far too many risks, and no benefits. I took a hard pass 8 years ago and have no intention to change that.
If marriage, for a man, in the UK, was a business proposition, which you put before a loan manager, he'd/she'd laugh you out of the office. What is the "upside"? "What are the liabilities?". Ting! NEXT! btw, my sister was manager of a woman's refuge in a S. London district. When she heard "believe all women" she laughed and laughed. ALL? You mean ALL?
Your sister sounds like a good one based on that. Hopefully, she holds similar beliefs about the rest of it. We need more women like her in this world.
Got married out of college and a couple years into our married life it came out that she had been badly abused by a family member and she became suicidal and psychotic. Meds kind of helped but seven years later the psychologists even said it was a lost cause so I became a single dad and she went off "to find herself". Subsequently I met and went out with at several other women. One was seeing a psychiatrist for severe mood swings, one was secretly still married, one confessed that she was actually a lesbian but she liked me as a friend, one was a severe alcoholic with ovarian cancer (took care of her kids after she died), and the latest one is kind of a church lady with health issues and doesn't want to get married so we live in different houses and just hang around together. Priests have had more physical intimacy than me. I know of at least three guys who under similar situations went overseas and came back with wives. They seem happy.
This is what happened to me. My first wife and I had 3 children. I can remember one fight where she blinded me with pepper spray, while i was shielding the children, then struck me with something till i could not stand anymore. Then she climbed on top of me and proceeded to choke me. How did i survive? She stopped trying to murder me long enough to ask why I was smiling. I wheezed out, in death I will still protect the children by murder investigation. Police, news agencies would not accept that i had i violent wife. My oldest son reported his mother for beating him horribly to child protective services while at school in college Station texas and no help came. I lived thinking I would be murdered, No possible help, but if i left She would kill one of the children. I had no hope, only wanted to protect the children. Her favorite pillow talk was to ask me to hit her so she could have the police arrest me. All of us got away. My daughter is in therapy for PTSD. My sons can’t sleep and show other signs of PTSD. I am still in therapy. Some weeks I don’t have nightmares of the screams of my children and it’s been 10 years since i got away.
I've never had a woman or girl show interest in me except for two occasions. On the other hand, a lot of women tried to make me jump through hoops, take advantage of me or otherwise treat me like crap. I'm not playing that game anymore, it is not worth it.
"I was picking the wrong men" You do realize that this doesn't apply to most men, right? Most men do not enjoy the same optionality that women enjoy... Most men are not getting approached by random women at the grocery store... 30% of men under 30 are virgins... The top 10% of men enjoy almost unlimited optionality, sure, but the rest of us either have to take whatever comes our way, or get used to being alone... We can't just wave a magic wand to make women behave better and there are only so many good ones to go around, the reality is that some of us are just better off staying single... The deciding factor is whether or not a man believes that the juice is worth the squeeze, and the truth is that, for many men, the answer is "no".
Wow.... Apparently I've been in the club for years now but just realized I'm not alone today when I randomly discovered that there is MGTOW thing.... I feel relief knowing I'm not alone & not going crazy
MGTOW strength lies in the fact MGTOW is not political organisation, group, or movement. MGTOW has no structure that can be infiltrated or corrupted, no chain of command, no clubhouse, corporate, government, social or otherwise.
Do I want to trade living alone for.... not knowing what kind of situation, or mood she is in when I walk in the door? Hell NO! I will take care of myself and not worry about having a girl on my arm....I'm good. You do you...I will do me and I will be happy.
I and my son and daughter walked on eggshells for the last 10 years out of my 17 year marriage. I used to sit in the parking lot of a private country club a few blocks from home on many nights after work just waiting until I knew she was asleep in order to avoid the craziness.
I cannot imagine that any relationship can ever be worth all the heartache and pain in trying to find it. Not to mention all financial and material risk. I just don't see the potential reward outweighing the very substantial risk. With our society geared the way it is, the cost-benefit analysis is an abysmal failure.
I like how you put perspective on both side of the aisle for both men and women about how we often choose the wrong people we pick for relationships...I checked out from dating for 10 years after my divorce because I was financially wrecked from the divorces...But after healing my traumas about the divorce, I am in a better place now and understand women are amazing now have been speaking to women often now and smile and enjoy the company of women.
Both my ex-wives cheated while I was gone and I’m working on me and my son. I’m happier now than I have been in a long time. Don’t hate women, just don’t think they are worth it.
Divorced man here. Finding someone who is emotionally honest and willing to look into the same mirror that modern men are forced to stare into is practically impossible. Also, once a man’s intimacy is betrayed enough times, he will likely never open up again.
“There are mean people everywhere.” Yes. And I think that “social” media by their very nature promote meanness and tit-for-tat superficial interaction, which is the opposite of what is required for understanding and coming together, which is what human courtship requires.
I'm 37. Never had such feelings for anybody and given how things are, I have no intent to try putting myself out there, not at my age in this day and age. I don't know if my refusal to participate makes me MGTOW, but at the very least, I don't get burned by such behaviors.
I was married for 4 years. I was cheated on and wife got with her parents to position the situation so she got the house. The divorce broke my heart and she didn't care because she was sleeping with all sorts of people (yes, both men and women). She came out as bi. I tried OLD a few years later and went through 6 years of a different sort of abuse. I finally acknowledged the writing on the wall in 2008 and have not dated since. I am much happier and am doing so much better financially and emotionally. I am done forever with women. I don't hate them and have a few good female friends, but from a dating perspective, I just gave up and it was the smartest thing I have ever done.
I went my own way and my life improved. I'm going to enjoy a great retirement. There is no woman worth giving up my peace and freedom for. I don't miss the having to navigate a woman's feelings and needs. I'm better off and happier alone. I see some of my friends struggling in their marrages and am glad I've gone my own way. Life is to short to deal with an unhappy woman.
I have a PhD and because I am not a female or minority I have had my resume skipped over many times. I am by far the most qualified, when they hire someone for the role that I applied for I do my research and see that the person has LESS experience, education, and is not the same gender as me. But it is all fair, right?
You seem like a pleasant, intelligent person, capable of thinking. This is not so common, any more. When my father was young- say the 1960s- when men talked, they'd have small complaints about their wives. Most women didn't play around. Most men didn't either. Only the top 5-10% of men even can play around. You are correct- women of today seem to insult and damage men, for no apparent reward. Most people don't appreciate what they have- until it's gone. My mechanic got utterly destroyed in a divorce. She kept the kids- and wouldn't tutor them and stay on them to keep up their grades. She sold the house, and moved away. He had to live in a rented room in a friend's house. So he took the only real outlet he had- he got cancer, and it killed him within a year. Cancer is an emotional disease. And of course, he didn't have to pay the unreal level of alimony the court demanded. Women used to be coached by mom, aunts, and older women- just as men used to be coached by dad, uncles, and other older men. The Japanese word "sensei" means "born before", with the implication that a teacher is further down the path. You talked about men who were somewhat abusive. They are the asymmetrical counterparts to women with zero morals. A road map works so much better than rolling the dice on a random. I notice that many women in their 30's, on up, decide that yes, a long term relationship with a man can be very rewarding... and their potential partners have been burned enough that they won't take the risk. Divorce court, for men, is roughly equivalent to being on the line in a slaughterhouse- cut up, and hung up to bleed out. I congratulate you for attempting to heal these divisions.
I have been single for 10 years, although i miss being in a relationship sometimes because it has its positives such as having a best friend on your side when times are good and bad and sharing happy moments, other times i dont miss it at all. My last relationship lasted 3 years, we fought constantly every week, not because i did anything bad, but because she didnt like my mom and sister living with me, she would even decide when we would be intimate and no matter what i did nothing worked and intimacy was very rare. In the last 6 months i disconnected and could not even bear to touch her and was no longer attracted to her and then i ended it. Instead of being sad, i felt relieved and a big weight lifted! I am in my early forties, have an amazing job as a high level executive and have never been happier in my life! This relationship has left deep scars even now and a part of me is very afraid to be in a relationship because i dont want to go through this again.
I'm 6'5", educated, financially independent, and I'm told I'm attractive. I spent my life chasing women and having fun, but at 52 I called it quits and am now happily mgtow. A lot of guys have been hurt by women, but for me, after a life around a wide range of women, I'm just disappointed in women generally. It seems very true that if you love women, they're hard to understand, if you understand women, they're hard to love.
Really saddens me to read the comments here. Not one seems to agree with what you say I.E. the TRUTH. Women are just people with the same desires and hopes as men. I know dozens. Married 2 and LTR with 3rd (she passed away) The happiest and most contented times were with women. Most of my life I've been 'attached' never on my own for too long. You simply have to know how to treat them and love them. You do not need money, you DO need understanding and help them when needed. You DO have to be CAPABLE and have good humour. To fail you need to be moody, short tempered, tight fisted, incompetent, argumentative, selfish, arrogant and worst of all put them on a pedestal so they can look down on you. Good relationships are EQUALS on all levels. That's what 50 years of experience teaches you. I would NEVER EVER go my own way!
I dated a lot when I was younger. Most of them went nowhere. And the serious relationships....also....went....nowhere. After my last one, 14 years ago, I did some reflection also, & I realized what my problem was. Like you, I was picking the wrong women. I was picking women that I liked & was attracted to. Solution: Date women that I don't like & aren't attracted to. Or I could just not date. That realization was a God send! I can choose to retire (I was 30 at the time) or I can suit up for another brutal round. I chose to retire. Later, my church conned me into getting back out there with things like you're suppressing a God given desire, which was true. I do desire a relationship & that is God given, but if the relationship isn't forthcoming, what alternative does one have to suppressing it? Keep in mind that these were the same people who were telling me that marriage wasn't all that it's cracked up to be & the magic is over after about 1-2 years. After dating a few church women (supposedly the holy grail of women [the right women]) & having things end pretty much the same way as non-church women (nowhere), I was told that the reason I was failing was because I needed to make a lot of changes to my life. So, overhaul my entire life hoping that a woman will take notice & do a bunch of things that I don't really want to do (at least on my own, I'd rather do them with a partner) on the off chance this gets a woman (nevermind the question of did she accept me for me or for all the stuff that I had) or go back into retirement. And retirement seemed to be the better option. In other words (well, both my words & everyone else's) the cost was too high; the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
As a Chinese man,i knew that plenty of women thought that women are oppressed by men even though in China men should give women bride price before the marriage(about 60k dollars while the resident income is around 800 dollars per month)
I agree with you, and like some other rare women you seem to understand women and men and their differences in the way the think, feel and what prioritise in life. Unfortunately most of the women don't understand this differences and often what they say contradict what they really want. I think that this has been caused by Feminism and as well as men that keep validating and encouraging bad behaviour in women (for instance when they follow, subscribe or give thumbs up to women on tiktot or Instagram where the messages conveyed is superficial or narcisistic
I would rather date a man that went his own way than the absolute jackoffs polluting dating sites that make me hate, despise, and loathe those sites and dating in general. With that out of the way lol... yes, some of us do care. Men have it harder right now than any other time in human history. And a few bad apples are ruining the whole bunch, unfortunately.
I honestly appreciate and respect your viewpoint. Yes, you are the right way and doing the right thing......the only problem is good women like you are very few and far between. But make no mistake, there are countless of men who are some of the biggest jackoffs you have ever seen in your life, and I have wondered for years how some of these creeps and pigs could even buy a 2nd date, little alone have been married before and with kids.
It's tough to work against our DNA, and I think most women (yourself included) enjoy the same toxicity that destroys the relationship. Exciting at first but headed for a cliff. No blame, it's just so consistent I haven't heard another theory that explains it. I'm guessing there are tons of "Great guys" in your circle that would be a great match for "someone else".
@@NilsMacQ I've literally caught feels for someone I once told "You look like a serial killer" lol, he was a good dude and we got along great. but it was long-distance and neither was in a position to change that. Then I fucked it up due to alcohol abuse and being a shitty person. It was then that I started working on myself and now I'm happy with who I am. It also turns out I'm bipolar (not what you think that means, it is NOT 'flipping the bitch switch') and during my manic phases, well, thinking I'm better than someone was a big thing. Thankfully I'm now self-aware enough that I shut that down when it happens. I don't have any guys like that in my circle. I've never had the "you're a great guy you'll find someone! (who isn't me)" talk with any friend. I will add this, relating to my original comment about guys with their shit together. There's a guy at work, modest appearance, dresses in t-shirts, nobody really paid him any mind pre-COVID. We came back to the office 3 years later, and EVERY woman knows his name. His appearance did not change, he's also chubby to fat, probably could use a hair cut. But he walks and talks with a quiet confidence he didn't have before. He never yells or shouts, helps others consistently, is generous, doesn't talk behind people's backs... But I won't date a coworker :P that's a line I have steadfastly refused to cross my entire career and don't see that changing.
@@NilsMacQ Oh, and I have ADHD as well, which means I have to be very careful. I can get caught up in someone incredibly easily, be intensely interested in them, and then a few weeks later just become completely disinterested. So tbh I'm hesitant to date at all because putting someone through that to jerk the rug out from under them just seems unfair.
@@Emily_M81 So interesting that you dated someone you told looked like a serial killer. Serial killers get a LOT of fan mail. I know a woman who dated a “jock”. At a party he started yelling at and pushing g around a “nerd” as they were leaving. She was upset because she didn’t like violence and didn’t want him to fight especially someone with someone less going for him.When they got in the car she noticed although she was a grey at her bf she was turned on by him and was aware enough to notice her values clashing with her biology. I think this happens a lot and very few of us are that aware, much less willing to accept it. Great that you’re aware of some Of your blind spots, so important
There really is nothing that feels like the touch of a woman. Women can be beautiful, loving, empathetic creatures but man I am just burnt out. I need to step away and reflect for a while. Thank you for understanding.
from the MGTOW point of view that I follow. (sorry, I don't know the language of Shakespeare) I'm just a simple Frenchman, a "farmer", in France, a lot of people including women have killed me. I left the country 15 years ago. I was destroyed. I have been bullied all my life. but I never gave up thanks to my family. My late mother told me one day "follow your instinct, it will keep you alive) I had 2 relationships, and 2 “sex plans”. I stopped because I felt dirty. I rebuilt myself in the country where I live, my family who lives in this country helped me mentally. but I chose this path after visiting a museum and studying in Japan, the way of the sword by Miyamoto Musashi. I returned, transformed. and today, I am serene to face the second part of my life. I have to manage my business and my small farm there. I would live as I died. as a free and serene man. Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret
I have been in a sexless abusive marriage for 22 years. The only reason I stayed is I have two children n I can’t leave my children to this abusive woman. Being single is better than being lonely n waiting for death for the abuse to be over.
I know a woman on Facebook who once posted something about how women would be happier in a society without men. So, I told her that I support her on that and that there should be a mid-sized town somewhere where men are not allowed to enter for any reason. I then told her that her and her girlfriends and the other women there would now be 100% resposible for any construction, building maintenance, plumbing and larger water infrastructure, electricity and larger electrical infrastructure, road maintenance even if it's 100 degrees outside, roofing even if it's 100 degrees outside, saitation including trash collecting and sewer cleaning and maintanance, cleanup after storm damage. Trucking in all the goods they will need, logging for wood they will need. Getting a job on an oil rig for the petroleum products they will need. Funny, she never posted anything like that again after this response.
I spent 8 years with a woman who used me as a walking wallet. I got us a house, I paied the majority of bills, I did most of the chores inside AND outside the house. When I finally had enough of the abuse and lack of effort, I left. She took half the money for a house she put no money on. I lost my social circle when she told everyone I "almost hit her", because I dared to say I'd defend myself if she kept hitting me. Got laughed at when I tried to bring charges against her for domestic abuse, even with obvious bruises. Was told I was lucky I got to keep half when I complained about the unjust enrichment. Oh and someone we both knew was pissed at ME for the fact SHE had trouble making ends meet after we moved apart. How the hell is it my fault she can't adult? Been single since then. Get burned bad enough, you don't put your hand back on the stove.
i'm glad you learned your lesson by making the mistake. thankfully, i learned seeing others make the same mistake over and over again. thanks for re-re-re-re-confirming
Your first, and last sentence says it all. I don't get why women think they have value. They can use sex as an example, but that is supposed to be a mutual thing, and she can withhold it at any time, so it's not valid.
@@Stubbies2003 Feminism has made MGTOW the only viable option for men. It's that, or continue making the same mistakes, expecting different results. "Stories like this" are the reality of modern relationships.
I applied and tested for a job a few years ago. Even though I came out the highest in the testing, the director told me he wanted to hire me, but I wasn't a female or from the considered ethnic race they desired and as such they couldn't hire me. A year later this business contacted me and the director told me they went through 7 people they hired and had to fire that met their female and ethnic requirements and they still needed to fill the position. He wanted to know if I'd be interested in the job. I laughed and said that I took job at a different business after his business wouldn't hire me because I wasn't a female and of their desired ethnic race. I also told him I would never work at a business that had such requirements in hiring a person.
Similar thing happened to my brother like 20 years ago... though it was only with race (they were only hiring darkies), and they only made it to the 3rd jack-hole that just stopped showing up after their welfare qualification was met before they called my brother back... he raked them for roughly 80% more than they would've given him had they just hired him right away, and about 30% more than he he was making at the in-between job he had (and this was a semi-skilled factory job--- mostly line-work, but with some mechanic-based maintenance and setup involved, and he had previously been in a journeyman machinist position). He's been there ever since with small but steady raises every year, and bought his third house (the one out in the woods that he always wanted) about 5 years ago, and the company trashed their woke policy.
The problem with that is all businesses have those requirements now. You just might not always fall victim to it but affirmative action and other such things have changed the world and now there are quotas for genders and ethnic groups. Sad fact of life now days. The best person doesn't necessarily get the job.
Fear in general. "I might get hurt in some manner if i do that" Instead of "I'm sure glad i only cared about myself, what an empty deathbed i made for myself" What exactly, are you afraid of? Child support? Cheaper than raising them. Lol. Start worrying about what you're missing, and maybe you'll begin to notice all the women that actually might give a fuck about you. Pussies
Funny how there's this sudden outpouring of "men, we value you, don't leave!", when women finally wake up to the fact that men are walking away _in droves_ and they are feeling the effects. I hope more men continue to wake up and walk on, not less. It's like crying at a funeral. People don't cry because the person is gone, they cry because they feel the pain of their own loss. I'm not here to provide things for women any more. Been there, tried that, got abused _hard_ and there's no way back from it.
"men, we value you, don't leave!" Or to translate into English "Put this bridle, bit and harness back on the get back to work! Back onto the plantation with you, slave!" Nope!! Been there, done that. Ain't never going back!
One of the ways in which this is happening is the increase in women talking about this on YT. We call these women - at least most of them - Chameleons and Grifters. Don't take any of them too seriously - they don't care about you, they care about what you are no longer willing to provide them.
Going MGTOW has changed my life. After a lifetime of simping and seeking validation from women I'm now focusing all my energies on myself. I'm now more confident, independant and intelligent then I've ever been before. The only downside is I want to socialize less nowadays.
@@ApastronRetro To be honest I rarely have the time to be lonely. I work long and unsociable hours and have to be so focused that I don't think of much else. When I'm not working I have so much to catch up on that my days off are equally as busy. I don't have time to be lonely tbh.
that's amazing, but i dont think it's necessarily mgtow. Mgtow also views feminism as negative towards men, and what you did was a self-developing journey, which is unrelated to issues with feminism
Everything is a risk: reward ratio The risks in simply dealing with, let alone marrying, women is not worth the benefits modern women provide us Simply put, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
On another one of Sarah's videos, I posted "Never enter into a contract with a party that is incentivized to break that contract"...It triggered the nerve of quite a few women AND men to which the latter I was surprised.
Modern marriage is not real marriage. It's just a social safety net for women now, where men only get what crumbs the women deigns to throw them. They win no matter what happens because the government would rather make you keep paying for them after a divorce than have to add them into the welfare system. It's a rigged game.
@@jaobidan2358 I mean. You're not wrong. Marriage IS a contract (that has absolutely ZERO to do with love), and it is completely handled in such a way that it rewards women for breaking it.
I went out to the driveway one late winter day where water collected and froze, making it hazardous not only for anyone walking the sidewalk, but also for us to safely drive into and out of the driveway. I began to use a pick axe to chop the ice out. My then-wife came out where I was working, now having taken off my heavy coat and now down to a t shirt, or, even no shirt, and asked, why it was taking so long? I said nothing, just held the tool out to her. She took it, made about 3 attempts to chop the ice, then, gave it back to me, smiled sheepishly a walked away. Now she knew why it was "taking so long". Not as easy as she thought.... Sadly, even doing chores like that, doesn't get a man laid later, either. It's just another part of the man's work day.
I was married for 17 years to a covert narcissist. Being self employed as a site work contractor some days were so physically demanding I would return home exhausted eating my dinner in the bathtub as I soaked to remove coal tar emulsion from my hands and face from spraying 200k s.f. of asphalt. I often fell asleep with the plate in my hand more than a couple of times. When I wasn't working, I was working at home on the yard, landscaping, washing and maintaining both of our vehicles, tackling the "honey do" list etc..We lived in a nice home one block from the golf course, she had her Eddie Bauer SUV, 2 vacations a year and even had the golden doodle. No matter what I did, she wasn't happy and after years of walking on egg shells and dealing with all of the drama and fights over nothing she decided to try physical abuse. That was the final straw the broke the camels back. I filed for divorce and went no contact. It's been 5 years and I am not looking back. I kept the dog, my 500 SL convertible, my motorcycle and right now am MGTOW with no immediate plans to change this. I'm focusing on my business and IF I ever get back in the game, I think I'll try somewhere outside the United States such as Asia, Eastern Europe or maybe South America.
I worked outside of the house, did all the house work, cleaning and cooking especially the cooking part because that calms me down. All I asked for was some good music and a little quiet time, that was just too much control said the narcissist. If I had to depend on her, the house would be rubble.
Nothing matters. Women don’t care about men. It’s that simple. My wife doesn’t even know I exist unless she spots something she doesn’t like. Then, she never forgets it, it’s all she thinks about. Women arrogantly think they are complete and think their job is to break and fix men to their liking. I have little respect for the women that were the biggest influence in my life. They have been cruel. They know I can’t do anything in response. It’s awful. No woman in my life has EVER reliably been there when I am in need, only when they are. I want a relationship but is it worth it? My experience with women is that they don’t mind being abusive. It’s power and control. That nurturing stereotype of women is completely false. It’s gone. They have forced us out and then claim victimhood. Rich. I’d like to meet just one good woman in my lifetime. I haven’t seen it. I see abuse. I wish I could see it otherwise but unfortunately that has been my experience. Women lack empathy. They’ve become cold, insensitive. It’s going to backfire horribly if it continues. It’s sad. I’m a good catch but what’s the point. Get caught, get crushed? No thanks.
A lot of men are considered ugly and not worthy of a woman's time or consideration. Regularly told that we are vile, disgusting and useless individuals. We have moved on and decided to concentrate on our own lives.
@@0206-b8z and you samr women just play I know you are but what am I forever. Stop feeling insulted and face the core issues that men are talking about.
@@0206-b8z I agree but it is also a harsh but true biological reality. A woman's fertility falls off a cliff at around 35. Doctors consider pregnancies at that age and older as high risk. Just like fat guys are unattractive to women, old ladies are undesirable if a man wants a family. I'm not saying you can't have kids after 35. My wife had children (with me) at 32, 36, and 42 - at no point did we use birth control except immediately after a birth. Notice the gaps? She was 31 when we married and was pregnant within a few weeks - no issues with fertility.
I agree, but many are making it into an IDENTITY (which, in a society plagued with identity politics; inevitably results in every identity turning into a movement once it gains enough numbers/momentum).
We appreciate the sentiment, Sarah Dawn. However, it's a hard pass from me as nothing has changed and it's better that we work on ourselves than on women.
I refuse to train or mentor a woman of any age. The owner knows I'll quit on the spot. Too close to retirement to risk metoo BS. I will not help or assist any female not of my family, no matter how dire her circumstances. You're strong and independent, you got it.
I'm one of those guys that is so much happier now being without a woman in my life. I actually smile when I go to sleep thinking about it. I wake up every morning planning my day out doing what I want when I want. I don't have to listen to a woman continually complaining. At 69 and I am in super great shape and have been seen as being 45 by people at the gym. I haven't seen any women, my age that could ever keep up with me. I have noticed that women hit an age where they actually start looking more like old men. I am so happy to be single. No more drama, no more being blamed for being a man, no more complaining that men have it so much easier then women and no more competing for a woman's attention. Color me happy. If I die tomorrow, it would be ok, because I have had a good life.
I'm a 56 year old man who has gone his own way. I have been in many relationships and have never been shown true love or appreciation. I am a very caring and faithful man, and always got cheated on, taken advantage of, and ridiculed as a "beta". I hope all the women that left me are happy with the narcissistic manipulators they left me for.
Pay them back by waking up younger men ;) When these modern bimbos start seeing their potential Hosts dwindle… they’ll start to panic and their true nature will come out even more :) It’s already starting a little bit but needs to be amped up.
I'm sorry for your unpleasant experiences with dating. Unfortunately it seems good guys finish last with dating. There are good women with integrity that won't challenge your masculine core out there. However, we as men do not have ESP so finding such women has become a very risky endeavor. Good Luck.
@@dampfbucke I refused to have anything to do with women since I turned 15. Now in my mid 30s, own a house, car, learning a trade, have a degree, investment account just hit $100k. I have zero debt, I workout 3 times a week, and go hiking at national parks. Far better off without modern toxic women who only want to exploit and hurt me.
Hi Sarah, thanks for your work and your understanding. I wanted to shed a little light on the thought process some of us MGTOW men have when we arrive at our decision to walk away. The vast majority of men who get to MGTOW have been burned somehow by a woman / women. I think most of us realize that "Not all women" are like the one / few that hurt us. That isn't the problem. The problem is as follows: 1. We realize that we got it wrong with the woman / women who hurt us. 2. We paid the price for being wrong. (Divorce, family court, HR departments etc.) 3. We SLOWLY and PAINFULLY recovered / are recovering from that time we got it wrong. 4. We realize that we might get it wrong again. 5. We realize that the cost of getting it wrong again is too high / not one we are willing to pay. 6. We realize that the probability of getting is perfectly right on our very next try is very very very low. 7. Only logical solution. If you can't afford to play the game, don't play the game. I think most of us know that some good women exist. It's that the cost of possibly getting it wrong has made the game prohibitively expensive. Still, I appreciate your efforts and work. Hopefully voices like yours help dismantle the system that is currently causing more and more men to go their own way. That said, its a good way. We have cake.
I've learned that most of the women who aren't a problem arent single. If youre a quality woman you pretty much can get any guy you want. Ive realized that being a 6/10 guy all things considered Im left with obese single moms as dating options. No thank you.
My last company lost a contract that it held for over 20 years because a woman claimed sexual harassment when she was fired. There was no sexual harassment. I know, because I was there at the time it supposedly occurred. Well, thanks to her the entire office was forced to go through a sexual harassment course, and then we were up for a new contract that we lost to a crappy competitor. I don't know why women need to be in the workplace if they're going to throw childish tantrums like that. We all lost our jobs because of one vindictive woman. Should I want one of those in my life?
I have a software programming company. I'm the boss. I will never employ women because metoo, false accusation, etc... I don't care the opinions. It is a profit oriented world and it is my responsibility, not the idiot's rights. Sorry, I don't need women.
It's sad that the average heterosexual male who is hardwired to be attracted to women has checked out because women are no longer pleasant. Think about that... Women have made themselves to be so unpleasant and bitchy that men do not see them as being worth dating even for casual sex.
For me as a 39 year old the dating scene feels like a real me way street. Women CONSTANTLY demand that as a man you just meet these requirements. You must be above average height, above average income, treat her like a queen, above average etc etc. in short CONDITIONAL love. But the moment I hold HER to a standard or ask something of her….well now im toxic. I have to tip toe around her triggers but she can stomp on all of mine and not give a damn. While I’m not opposed to dating, at this point I’m not looking. the right woman will have to come into my life not the other way around.
@@0206-b8z I can generalize because there is a vast chorus of men experiencing the same thing in the dating scene. If you are an average man you are invisible to the average woman. Worse if you are a man of integrity and wisdom you are NOT getting noticed because women are picking primarily from wealth and status things a wise man will never show off.
I am 50 years and has been single and never dated women. Some may see me as weird but have never been happier. I am more than glad continuing my solitude journey of life
50% divorce rate in the usa (for 1st marriage. 2nd goes to 60-67%). Around 70% of those are started by women. Women get custody 90% of the time. Of alimony payments only 3% are given to men. **Why should men stay??** Can anyone pitch a genuine reason why men ought to risk it all on those odds? Please, SELL US on marriage. On relationships. When a woman can end it on a whim due to no fault divorce, prenups get tossed out, she takes the house and the kids and you owe alimony and child support. I beg ANYONE to tell me why men should take that risk.
I completely agree.Having been through 1 divorce, I really don't see the benefit of doing it again and possibly having my life ruined. I've seem so many friends driven into financial hell due to divorces and never bouncing back.
Marriage benefits no man. Women weaponize sex, pseudo affection...just long enough to hook a man, then to leave on a whim. Possibly due to coaxing from other women, seeing an opportunity for a "better" life or just knowing that the law will reward them in the end. As long as no fault divorce exists, a marriage certicate is as good as a death sentence. A woman can manipulate any situation she wants and the man has no ground to stand on. The only man that benefits from marriage may be the divorce lawyer.
Got divorced after being married to a covert narcissist for 23yrs. Have spent the last 1.5 yrs working on myself. Been in counseling for 2 yrs to figure it all out. Started my own business, getting back in shape doing the things I wasn't "allowed" to do. I'm pretty damn happy now. Maybe will date in the future but I really like my independence. MGTOW for now. Thanks for all you do.
Tons of women are covert narcissists. Did she act like a victim, and apologize for little things that weren't here fault, but not apologize for real hurtful things she did? Did she beat herself up over minor mistakes because she thought she was too smart to ever make a mistake? Did she beat up OTHER people way worse (with accusations or trying to get them fired or tearing them down with lies) because she thought they weren't good enough for her? Did she change herself to 'win you' and she never liked any of those things? Did 3 types of people exist to her - those she wants validation from, those she hates, and lesser humans she ignores?
I dated a girl who had me meet her mom over lunch. That night she messaged me saying "Thanks for another perfect day... You even met my mom... How I feel about you will never change..." She broke up with me 4 days later for no valid reason. So yes, you can't believe what women say since they are driven by emotion.
The MISANDRY has gotten so bad that I know that dying ALONE is my DESTINY. I am 62 years old and I am to the point that I just don’t give a damn about being in a relationship anymore. Again, I just don’t care anymore. At my workplace, there are NUMEROUS female coworkers but, I just prefer to work alone. I can focus more on my work anyway.
I'm 67. My dog is better company than anyone I have been in a relationship with. I completely stayed away from women at my last job. Still wasn't enough. It's self defense.
Fuck work! I want a companion to lift my life to a new height. I used to work nights alone. Always a delight to crawl in bed next to my loving partner. If you've never been there I feel sorry for you.
Don’t worry man. There will always be a man with you and caring for you, even when you die. (I sat with an elderly neighbour who had chosen to die at home the night he died. It was an absolute honour for me. He helped me grow up fully into manhood by facing that with him. I regard that as the greatest gift I have received in my life. You have brothers out there that you don’t even know, strangers that will stand by you simply because we are men.✊
MGTOW is the only manosphere group that I agree with and have some real respect for. I am so tired of seeing men who don't have their life together complain about women. Yes, it's hard. Yes, it's not fair. We get it. What do you want to do about it? Complain every day? Still let your little head make all your decisions? Excuse all the abuse and manipulation that you get from women? WHY? What are they offering that makes all of this worth it? And if it is worth it, stop complaining so much. MGTOW have decided none of this is worth it, they're going to take their balls and go home. Try and live the best life they can on their own terms. I'm not there yet. But I'm very close. My peace and sanity are far more valuable to me than sex from a messy woman in a messy relationship.
It’s interesting you notice this about the MGTOW movement. I’ve noticed the same aspects of it as well and that it’s more reasonable than many of the things being said within the Incel movement, a more extremist version of MGTOW. On the one hand, there are men who women will probably never choose, hence going incel, but there’s also a lot of abhorrent extremism within that group. To me, MGTOW is more like stoicism, the philosophical way of making the most of your life for yourself and with what life gives you.
And the reason why they don't get their life together is because they understand they can never reach the top 1% It's physically impossible for every guy to run a business (Also economically, how are you going to run a business if there are no customers because everyone is busy running their own company) . There's bosses and there are workers. This is the structure of modern living. So THAT's why men opt to do nothing because they can't do anything to change that. And not everyone is work focused, not everyone wants to slave through this life just to have a few more numbers show up on their bank account. More to life than that. We are currently living in an era of inflation and greed and you expect someone to work 2-3 jobs just to somehow magically have SOME freetime and then with that freetime completely dedicate it to a relationship, which end's the moment women get 'bored'. Why would you put any time/effort/money into something that probably won't last.
31, make good money, and NEVER getting sucked into the scam we call marriage here... Only gumps and simps marry in the west nowadays. Get your passport boys...
As they say, all the hard work we invest in ourselves will never let us down in the future, leave and take cash and prizes! Men, keep improving for yourselves and reap the rewards!
The word was getting out anyway. Guys fall into 1 of 2 groups: Those that got screwed in divorce court or sued unjustly by women and those that know someone that that happened to. It became not rare, not at all unheard of.
the internet has always been a positive negative thing. There tons of garbage and harm, but it has also democratized the attention and the capability to spread knowledge youtube university i remember this 13 year old son of my friend just chiming in nonstop about global politics and he was Right!. The facts were there. I asked how at 13? he said TH-cam
I have an MBA. 45 years ago I worked for Ma Bell, before the breakup. To get into management you started as a telephone operator, you know, sitting in front of the board and manually routing calls. A management position came up, guess who got it? A female high school graduate. I got out of there, the handwriting was on the wall.
Yes they even on police jobs hiring highschool only educated females she even knows this where's the guys that age I would like for this women to put that on TH-cam they are on police fire military etc men older you can even tell when seeing it yes saw advertisement and police videos hiring unfair ages please have her report that too
Yes, amazing how much unsolicited advice women keep pushing on men. Women CAUSED ALL THESE PROBLEMS and men have moved on, seeing it for the unfixable disaster hyperspoiled western women are.
Scrolling through the comments and I am seeing FAR more men's horror stories with women than women leaving comments about pledging to do better in relationships. Think about that.
And anytime a relationship goes south the women say its because their ex was toxic. Funny, I really don't think its even possible that there are that many toxic men that women seem to always date toxic guys. Either they are lying, or these women are extremely bad at picking men and take no ownership of the fact they choose the wrong guys.
I was screwed over by my ex. Two kids and married for 7 years - she became emotionally distant and total personality change - “coincidentally” right at the same time I was getting some inheritance money from the passing for my grandpa. I have no intentions of getting in another relationship, it’s not worth it. It makes more sense to focus on being the best man I can be for myself and my kids. My ex went from man to man, and has also introduced a new man to the kids (this failed within a month of her introducing them). She has then tried to come back to me - but no, I have self respect.
@@cjanquart No, I don’t talk negatively to my kids about their mom. She’s free to do whatever she wants, and so am I. It’s not about giving up on anyone. But there is a time you need to walk away from a broken person, because it’s not your responsibility to fix them.
I gave up on dating when i was 24. I am now 37 and I am trying to date again. The same reasons i stopped dating back then are the same ones annoying me now. One word responses. I always feel like i have to carry the conversation 100% of the time. I hardy ever get simple questions back about myself. I always get one worded responses and then I have to quickly come up with another question or they immediately go to their phone. I often feel like i am on date solely for their entertainment
And then these very same women turn around and complain about "Why don't any men know how to hold a conversation?!". I'm with you on this one; engaging with modern women is often like pulling teeth and then everyone but her is the problem
@Waywardbiscuit Do not allow yourself to be treated like that. If a person uses their cellphone without excusing themselves (to take a necessary call), I walk. You HAVE to be brutal. You wouldn't treat anyone else like that, why in the world would you allow yourself to be treated like that? This is that other person in dating mode. If they pull this crap on a DATE...
Well them going to the phone pretty much eliminates you being any level of entertainment for those dates. More like the handy wallet to pay for her food that she has to "put up with" until the date is over sounds more like it.
If a woman is not expressing interest in you by carrying a conversation and asking you questions then it almost 100% of the time she is not attracted to you. Brutal truth I have learned (36 y,/o been divorced 2 years and have not been on a date with a serious potential partner since becoming single again).
We can see all over TH-cam, TikTok etc, women (correction, girls) who say they're not interested in a man who doesn't or isn't this or that, or doesn't make six figures. As if they're "worth" that. They'll eventually be 50 with a toy
For decades, women have loudly proclaimed that they don't need men. So men listened and guess what, we're much happier now. The freedom is delicious. Thank you, women! I just have to make myself happy, which is a much easier proposition than the alternative.
While on the job in a lab setting at a hospital one day I reached for a pen in a female co-workers lab coat pocket..basically hip-tummy level. She immediately makes a remark about sexual harassment loudly in front of other co-workers. This is the world we live in today.
You invaded her personal space bro. Did this woman ever indicate anything to you that she wanted you make a physical advance on her? Her reaction seems a bit much but you gotta be able to read a situation man.
@@JB-kx9bx Agreed. Going to HR is rough BUT even I don't like anyone invading my space by touching me or taking my stuff. Normal people ask "May I borrow....?" You don't just take something off someone if you need to borrow it. ASK first.
I was at work and had an itch in the middle of my back, tried using doorway, female asked what I was doing told her and asked if she would help. She said no it would make her feel uncomfortable, guy walked out of his office and scratched the middle of back. Thought that was the end. Got called into HR because she felt that uncomfortable.
Women have been taught that everything makes them a victim. They're being taught at college that, if they get buzzed, and a guy gets buzzed, and they have willing relations, but feel bad about it later, at any point in the next several decades, they can accuse him of assault. Everything is assault to them.
The laws incentivize women to act this way. A part that isn't discussed enough is that these companies don't want to get sued and a lot of these women are looking for a pay day. In any situation involving a man, a woman can say that the employer had a "hostile work environment" and can sue the company for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even if the suit is frivolous, the company still has to pay a lawyer and, if the suit is not dismissed, they have to pay a settlement or even lose at trial. It's cheaper for the company to reprimand and fire men over trivial things so, even if a woman sues, there is a record of the company trying to mitigate the harm and taking corrective measures. Women can do this with impunity too for the most part. A female accuser will have to make multiple BS claims before a company fires her and, by that time, several men could have lost their jobs over fake accusations. If one of a woman's BS claims are successful, she could get tens of thousands of dollars. It doesn't even have to be for money. A woman can simply not like a male co-worker and do this. There is no downside to a woman making accusations. The safest route for men is to avoid women at work, which can include working in all-male environments, working remotely or having multiple witnesses when interacting with female colleagues.
For me, about 4 years ago, I realized every woman I had ever know had used me for everything they could get and discarded me when they had gotten what they wanted, found something better or I busted them for what they were doing. This includes my own mother. So, to say I have a pretty crummy attitude toward women and relationships is an understatement. That day of enlightenment was pretty disappointing. Everything I wanted to believe about people was pretty much shattered all at once. Now I have my limits and anyone I’m with knows I won’t cross those limits. I’m much happier. No one uses me now.
Unfortunately, what you've said is true. Even someone's own mother is capable of manipulation simply because she is a woman. It's in her nature to benefit herself, first & foremost, over any man, including her son. Many men refuse to acknowledge this fact because they hold their mother in holy reverence
Story of my life. U r not alone. Exactly. Even my mother brought cousin sisters into my family to help her destroy me my brothers and fathers lives. The succubus spirit is alive and is in all of them
My mother was a saint who protected me like a lion. So sorry you had that experience. Maybe mine was older. At one time a mother made sure her son didn't end up with a bad women and would question any girl you brought home.
@@Sean-sk3nq In my case, she was a lion too but not the same. She would threaten anyone I was with and tell them I belonged to her. Basically she’d try to chase them off. None of these ladies had the guts or the kindness to tell me what was going on until I was in my 50s and she had dementia. At that point there was no point in even talking to her about it. I traced it all the way back to when I was 16 years old. She did a lot of damage and caused me a lot of grief trying to manipulate me because she was very afraid of being abandoned. I understand what happened now, her father died when she was maybe 10. She was afraid but I never abandoned her. She was born in 1935.
We only have this one life, there is no other life after that. Men want a meaningful life, women want a “happy” one. Both goals are incompatible in the 21st century
I know an Asian dude back in college who did not meet the 666 requirements and had the bad fortune of being a South Asian male - which women seem to find least attractive. Could not get a date at all. Kind and thoughtful but not a simp. Family oriented and very ambitious. Ate healthy and traveled the world. Loves sports, music and is intellectually gifted. Fast forward 10 years later, he successfully built a multi-million dollar company from the ground up, and now all the same women want to date him. He turned Passport Bro went back to his ancestral homeland and has been married for many years happily now.
Sarah, please investigation and do a video on why single men don't ruin the relationships of men who are in relationships; yet single women believe it is their mission in life to make all their married friends or women in LTR's to leave their man.
Warrenking is right my friend asking a woman to do anything would be like trying to hold a conversation with your dog. They lack the understanding and they just simply do t care about me like men do about women. Remember A man wrote the titanic; women are not looking for love they’re looking for provisions. Time to wake up yet?
She doesn't investigate. Did you see the redpill video she made? According to her: women are more likely to message average men on dating apps, care about men's body counts and don't care about a man's wealth. Also the happiest demographic are single women.
@@cr2lives "Believe all women." There is nothing about race in that statement. There is no "Yeah, but" moment here. She was a woman. She was believed.
@@mikey92362 Yeah history is clear that that there is no "yeah but" to what I said. It's unfortunate that the U.S. is so dedicated to re-writing the unfortunate portions of its history. Good day.
It is very noble to support men Sarah, thank you, but in some cases it is deeper than a couple's trauma, some of us realized the subtle slavery, The double standards, the false accusations and the use of them as a weapon of manipulation, the awakening of men due to the attack of feminism showed us true freedom, 8 years of celibacy have improved my mental and physical health, working 4 hours a day and living like a King, using my free time to reconnect with nature and therefore with my masculinity
It may be noble what she's doing, but it's too little too late. The ship has already sailed, men are checking out of dating and relationships, and improving their lives for their own benefit. Sorry ladies, if you didn't see this coming, not my problem.
@@JB-kx9bx I live in Argentina, it is 4 hours a day, 5 days a week, I work as a lumberjack, I am single, celibate and I have my own house and a green space to grow food and have some animals, You must stay away from the big cities, they are the epicenter of slavery, embrace the simple and natural life, you do not know freedom until you wake up with the crowing of the rooster as an alarm
The peace & quiet of the single life is worth its weight in gold. Once you learn about hypergamy and understand that is underlying female behavior in dating & relationships you realize what you're up against. You are just a placeholder as she actively tries to find a better deal. She is never fully invested in you. She loves what you do for her,but she does not love you. Add to this the sh*t tests, the drama, being taken for granted, and being unappreciated you can see why Men choose to drop out and go their own way.
The thing is that I love women. And I don't blame all women for my experiences. Life sucks and they are looking to maximize their life experience. Who doesn't? What bothers me is that everything I was taught growing up was a lie. Be yourself, the right woman won't care about money, being a good person is more important, etc. It's all BS. Had I known the rules, I may have played the game differently. But at this point, the only winning move is not to play.
@@MW-zz3mv Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win! 😂 It seems that the more of an asshole that you are, the better life results you'll have . ( Look at Joey! ) We were set up for failure, by the people that were supposed to love us the most. And then have the unmitigated audacity to show disapproval, and disappointment when we fail to thrive. Once you realize that the game is rigged, you can start making adjustments, but unlearning a lifetime of behaviors takes time.
Sarah, I appreciate you introspection on this matter. I think there is one main thing you left out though. It is not that a lot of these men are giving up on dating because of past experiences. It is because women only see the top 10% of men. Men have to work harder than ever to attract women of low quality and many feel the juice isnt worth the squeeze.
There is a book I heard of recently, written by a woman, to women. It had to do with women marry Mr. Good Enough Basically the author said that men want 3 things in a woman relative attractiveness kindness and compassionate Able to have a good and intelligent conversation but then goes on to say that women want/expect 200 things from a man.
I stayed in a crappy marriage for long time because I didn't want to be like my dad. I think the vulnerability of men my age comes from the fact that a lot of us were raised in single parent families, spefically by single mothers. We try too hard not to be the bad guy that we set ourselves up for pain.
Imagine 29 Years of compunding the money that you waste... you would be soooo rich now, paying 18 yo hot scorts 😛 You could have like 10 millions... instead you have a divorce hahaha
28 years for me. 2 years ago. I was faithful, loyal, never cheated, never hurt her, loved the vows. She got me good. Never knew the level of deceit and betrayal could be in someone I loved.
She is telling men what they want to hear. But would she take advantage of her ex husband in a divorce/child support situation. You can't trust a woman even if she says the right things. Don't be played.
If a woman wanted to separate herself from the pack all she needs to do is be pleasant. Think of all the requirements women place on men these days, but all men ask is that the woman be pleasant. Unfortunately, just being pleasant is asking too much from modern women these days.
Most men that I know are not fans of drama and don't want it in our lives at all. Most women I've spent any time with are all about drama and if there is no drama happening she will go out of her way to create drama. I figured out before graduation from public school that while there may be some fun to be had with women there was no long term peace around them and by the time I hit my 30's I no longer wanted anything to do with having any women in my life. This was long before all the talk of pills and MGTOW. I've watched friends get just toally demolished by their wives in divorce after 10, 20 or more years married and forced out of their children's lives just for spite. The latest just last month. 20+ years and just as his income from his best earning years has paid off the majority of debts she'd accrued for her professional education (that she didn't start until after marriage) and she starts making the kind of money that combined with his would have allowed them to put away a lot for retirement and a nicer life together she decides to flush the marriage down the toilet (no fault) and he's looking back at the literal hundreds of thousands he spent of his income over the years to try and make her happy (fertility treatments for her and adoption of kids that she wanted) that he could have invested instead and as he starts to close in on the later years of his career when he should be watching his gains from interest exceed his contributions and just watch the dollar signs stack up with a nearly paid off house he's basically back to square one with no house now having to bust his ass again as he approaches what should be the time he can start to slow down. This cautionary tale isn't rare or even uncommon and happens every day and every hour. I didn't need it to happen to me to see the writing on the wall in the 80's of what divorce laws and family courts were doing to men. Now I see a little bit of hope starting to appear with laws rolling back permanent alimony and the outlawing of paternity fraud in a couple states. I have hope that the laws will change enough that for future generations of men, they won't face utter financial ruin just because they married a woman that wanted to take him for his resources and run. Until this happens nationwide though staying alone is the best policy for every man. Do not shack up, do not marry, and damn sure do not impregnate, stay safe brothers.
For me, the straw to break the camel's back was actually several women in a friend group who dismissed my experiences with SA and other struggles because I was a man. These "friends" proceeded to tell me that the hurt I suffered from being SA'd was invalid because "we get it worse" and that "men getting SA'd is just karma for all the women assaulted by men." They also said similarly misandrist things about stuff that had nothing to do with sex, for example the lack of homeless shelters for men. Absolutely zero empathy. "If you're a man in a patriarchal system and you're homeless, it's because you're a POS and deserve it." If you express any frustration or feelings of humiliation for things that have nothing to do with sex, they will call you an "incel." Inceldom has transcended lack of sexual experience: it is now used to describe anyone who has "failed" as a man, even if you're not trying to live up to the normalized version of masculinity. The worst part in all of this wasn't even what they said, it was that the other people in the group validated them at my expense.
Quit dating over 5 years ago. Worked on my career and making good money now. Sick of women's ridiculous expectations and demands while offering nothing in return. Dating is a danger zone when men get accused of all kinds of things with zero proof. Better to stay single and enjoy life. It might get lonely but its better than being broken and lonely.
I am an old guy, 74. I watched the changes happen, watched my wife become less and less willing to value her own feminine nature. And with that she became less and less able to notice and appreciate the value I, my masculine nature, added in her life. With the inborn difference in men and women there is a natural dynamic tension. Wise couples value the differences and use the energies of the dynamic tension to fuel their creating what they desire as a couple. It saddens me to see many women now days turn their back on their feminine wisdom and power. I miss the pleasures of being a man intertwining my sacred masculine energies with the divine feminine energies of a woman. I regret that many men no longer recognize the value they create as the express the sacred masculine.
I am a single adult man who gave up on dating. Womens' expectations today are extremely childish and impossible to meet. A woman who is barely a four on a one-to-ten scale expects to marry a man who is a ten. The delusional entitlement is through the roof today. It is narcissism on steroids. Women complain, "Where are all the good men today?" while they have casual bedroom fun with the sexy bad boys covered in tattoos who treat them like crap. It's an impossible situation and I refuse to play along any longer. I'm going my own way.
Legend Comment My Friend.
you need to stop complaining about women and bad boys, work on finding solutions to improve your life for yourself
How old are you? I know some younger men are now dating older women, because they have more traditional values. It's working for me. Less drama, no hormonal ups and downs, no need for birth control, and we teach each other something every day. And the sex is 🔥.
Bro, I’m going to looksmax and moneymax and pump and dump these 304s. When I want to marry and settle down, I’m going to be a passport bro.
@@kc270352 Which is what MGTOW is. Go your own way. Focus on yourself and your betterment. Better everyday.
61-year-old white man here, this attitude is what drove me to date, black women, because this was the attitude I got from white women. Only to be met with this same attitude with black women.
So, I went offshore and found a beautiful 40-year-old Filipina. She doesn't ask to look at my bank account or for money, she wants me to provide a caring loving, and respectful environment where we are partners, lovers, and friends and at the end of the day, we work on the relationship towards happiness.
Sadly, I have to fly 20+ hours to find a woman to give me the time of day without attitude. I agree with your video, but the problem is much worse than you mentioned here.
For me, I would absolutely love to have a good relationship with a woman. The sad reality, at least for me, is that is impossible. There are far too many rules, far too many double standards, far too many risks, and no benefits. I took a hard pass 8 years ago and have no intention to change that.
Keep trying and you WILL succeed.
@@kerryfoster1 Unicorns are 1 in 1 billion, IF that even. So no that's just plain delusional in reality.
I don*t.
If marriage, for a man, in the UK, was a business proposition, which you put before a loan manager, he'd/she'd laugh you out of the office. What is the "upside"? "What are the liabilities?". Ting! NEXT!
btw, my sister was manager of a woman's refuge in a S. London district. When she heard "believe all women" she laughed and laughed. ALL? You mean ALL?
Your sister sounds like a good one based on that. Hopefully, she holds similar beliefs about the rest of it. We need more women like her in this world.
Got married out of college and a couple years into our married life it came out that she had been badly abused by a family member and she became suicidal and psychotic. Meds kind of helped but seven years later the psychologists even said it was a lost cause so I became a single dad and she went off "to find herself". Subsequently I met and went out with at several other women. One was seeing a psychiatrist for severe mood swings, one was secretly still married, one confessed that she was actually a lesbian but she liked me as a friend, one was a severe alcoholic with ovarian cancer (took care of her kids after she died), and the latest one is kind of a church lady with health issues and doesn't want to get married so we live in different houses and just hang around together. Priests have had more physical intimacy than me. I know of at least three guys who under similar situations went overseas and came back with wives. They seem happy.
south east asia is the way to go
These "Wives" won't stay yhe same for long
This is what happened to me. My first wife and I had 3 children. I can remember one fight where she blinded me with pepper spray, while i was shielding the children, then struck me with something till i could not stand anymore. Then she climbed on top of me and proceeded to choke me. How did i survive? She stopped trying to murder me long enough to ask why I was smiling. I wheezed out, in death I will still protect the children by murder investigation. Police, news agencies would not accept that i had i violent wife. My oldest son reported his mother for beating him horribly to child protective services while at school in college Station texas and no help came. I lived thinking I would be murdered, No possible help, but if i left She would kill one of the children. I had no hope, only wanted to protect the children. Her favorite pillow talk was to ask me to hit her so she could have the police arrest me. All of us got away. My daughter is in therapy for PTSD. My sons can’t sleep and show other signs of PTSD. I am still in therapy. Some weeks I don’t have nightmares of the screams of my children and it’s been 10 years since i got away.
I've never had a woman or girl show interest in me except for two occasions. On the other hand, a lot of women tried to make me jump through hoops, take advantage of me or otherwise treat me like crap. I'm not playing that game anymore, it is not worth it.
Same experience here
Women are very manipulative, when robot women come out women are finished 😊
It's showing how much you respect your self-worth and I'm proud of you for doing so.
"I was picking the wrong men"
You do realize that this doesn't apply to most men, right? Most men do not enjoy the same optionality that women enjoy... Most men are not getting approached by random women at the grocery store... 30% of men under 30 are virgins... The top 10% of men enjoy almost unlimited optionality, sure, but the rest of us either have to take whatever comes our way, or get used to being alone...
We can't just wave a magic wand to make women behave better and there are only so many good ones to go around, the reality is that some of us are just better off staying single... The deciding factor is whether or not a man believes that the juice is worth the squeeze, and the truth is that, for many men, the answer is "no".
Wow.... Apparently I've been in the club for years now but just realized I'm not alone today when I randomly discovered that there is MGTOW thing.... I feel relief knowing I'm not alone & not going crazy
MGTOW strength lies in the fact MGTOW is not political organisation, group, or movement. MGTOW has no structure that can be infiltrated or corrupted, no chain of command, no clubhouse, corporate, government, social or otherwise.
Do I want to trade living alone for.... not knowing what kind of situation, or mood she is in when I walk in the door? Hell NO! I will take care of myself and not worry about having a girl on my arm....I'm good. You do you...I will do me and I will be happy.
I and my son and daughter walked on eggshells for the last 10 years out of my 17 year marriage. I used to sit in the parking lot of a private country club a few blocks from home on many nights after work just waiting until I knew she was asleep in order to avoid the craziness.
It’s a monumental shift .it took 50 years men are different.women your on your own.women getting punched in in nyc are left to fend for themselves
Women wanted to be treated equally so men view women as just another man.
I cannot imagine that any relationship can ever be worth all the heartache and pain in trying to find it. Not to mention all financial and material risk. I just don't see the potential reward outweighing the very substantial risk. With our society geared the way it is, the cost-benefit analysis is an abysmal failure.
get your passport and GTFO; women are still women outside the western world.
Agreed
Agreed
I like how you put perspective on both side of the aisle for both men and women about how we often choose the wrong people we pick for relationships...I checked out from dating for 10 years after my divorce because I was financially wrecked from the divorces...But after healing my traumas about the divorce, I am in a better place now and understand women are amazing now have been speaking to women often now and smile and enjoy the company of women.
Have you started planning your recovery from you second divorce? Old age is coming. Two divorces really messes with $$$.
Both my ex-wives cheated while I was gone and I’m working on me and my son. I’m happier now than I have been in a long time. Don’t hate women, just don’t think they are worth it.
Divorced man here. Finding someone who is emotionally honest and willing to look into the same mirror that modern men are forced to stare into is practically impossible.
Also, once a man’s intimacy is betrayed enough times, he will likely never open up again.
“There are mean people everywhere.”
Yes. And I think that “social” media by their very nature promote meanness and tit-for-tat superficial interaction, which is the opposite of what is required for understanding and coming together, which is what human courtship requires.
I'm 37. Never had such feelings for anybody and given how things are, I have no intent to try putting myself out there, not at my age in this day and age. I don't know if my refusal to participate makes me MGTOW, but at the very least, I don't get burned by such behaviors.
Bonus points if you are a virgin still, rumor has it you gain super powers at age 40.
@@user-gz4ve8mw9l Yes. I already have the powers of more money due to not having children and no STDs or STIs. What else could there be?
I was married for 4 years. I was cheated on and wife got with her parents to position the situation so she got the house. The divorce broke my heart and she didn't care because she was sleeping with all sorts of people (yes, both men and women). She came out as bi. I tried OLD a few years later and went through 6 years of a different sort of abuse. I finally acknowledged the writing on the wall in 2008 and have not dated since. I am much happier and am doing so much better financially and emotionally. I am done forever with women. I don't hate them and have a few good female friends, but from a dating perspective, I just gave up and it was the smartest thing I have ever done.
I went my own way and my life improved. I'm going to enjoy a great retirement. There is no woman worth giving up my peace and freedom for. I don't miss the having to navigate a woman's feelings and needs. I'm better off and happier alone. I see some of my friends struggling in their marrages and am glad I've gone my own way. Life is to short to deal with an unhappy woman.
Biggest problem is men are
being disrespected in every way , 😮 Ohhh
I have a PhD and because I am not a female or minority I have had my resume skipped over many times. I am by far the most qualified, when they hire someone for the role that I applied for I do my research and see that the person has LESS experience, education, and is not the same gender as me. But it is all fair, right?
You seem like a pleasant, intelligent person, capable of thinking. This is not so common, any more. When my father was young- say the 1960s- when men talked, they'd have small complaints about their wives. Most women didn't play around. Most men didn't either. Only the top 5-10% of men even can play around. You are correct- women of today seem to insult and damage men, for no apparent reward. Most people don't appreciate what they have- until it's gone. My mechanic got utterly destroyed in a divorce. She kept the kids- and wouldn't tutor them and stay on them to keep up their grades. She sold the house, and moved away. He had to live in a rented room in a friend's house. So he took the only real outlet he had- he got cancer, and it killed him within a year. Cancer is an emotional disease. And of course, he didn't have to pay the unreal level of alimony the court demanded.
Women used to be coached by mom, aunts, and older women- just as men used to be coached by dad, uncles, and other older men. The Japanese word "sensei" means "born before", with the implication that a teacher is further down the path. You talked about men who were somewhat abusive. They are the asymmetrical counterparts to women with zero morals. A road map works so much better than rolling the dice on a random. I notice that many women in their 30's, on up, decide that yes, a long term relationship with a man can be very rewarding... and their potential partners have been burned enough that they won't take the risk. Divorce court, for men, is roughly equivalent to being on the line in a slaughterhouse- cut up, and hung up to bleed out. I congratulate you for attempting to heal these divisions.
I have been single for 10 years, although i miss being in a relationship sometimes because it has its positives such as having a best friend on your side when times are good and bad and sharing happy moments, other times i dont miss it at all. My last relationship lasted 3 years, we fought constantly every week, not because i did anything bad, but because she didnt like my mom and sister living with me, she would even decide when we would be intimate and no matter what i did nothing worked and intimacy was very rare. In the last 6 months i disconnected and could not even bear to touch her and was no longer attracted to her and then i ended it. Instead of being sad, i felt relieved and a big weight lifted! I am in my early forties, have an amazing job as a high level executive and have never been happier in my life! This relationship has left deep scars even now and a part of me is very afraid to be in a relationship because i dont want to go through this again.
Just go it single, bro, and increase your wealth so you can do the things you want to.
I'm 6'5", educated, financially independent, and I'm told I'm attractive. I spent my life chasing women and having fun, but at 52 I called it quits and am now happily mgtow. A lot of guys have been hurt by women, but for me, after a life around a wide range of women, I'm just disappointed in women generally. It seems very true that if you love women, they're hard to understand, if you understand women, they're hard to love.
Really saddens me to read the comments here. Not one seems to agree with what you say I.E. the TRUTH. Women are just people with the same desires and hopes as men. I know dozens. Married 2 and LTR with 3rd (she passed away) The happiest and most contented times were with women. Most of my life I've been 'attached' never on my own for too long. You simply have to know how to treat them and love them. You do not need money, you DO need understanding and help them when needed. You DO have to be CAPABLE and have good humour.
To fail you need to be moody, short tempered, tight fisted, incompetent, argumentative, selfish, arrogant and worst of all put them on a pedestal so they can look down on you. Good relationships are EQUALS on all levels.
That's what 50 years of experience teaches you.
I would NEVER EVER go my own way!
You are NOT on our side...
You're just wondering who's gonna keep your lights on after we all bail. Figure it out, boss babe....
Mgtow men salute to you
Passport Brothers salute to you
Great Content! 👏👏👏
I dated a lot when I was younger. Most of them went nowhere. And the serious relationships....also....went....nowhere. After my last one, 14 years ago, I did some reflection also, & I realized what my problem was. Like you, I was picking the wrong women. I was picking women that I liked & was attracted to. Solution: Date women that I don't like & aren't attracted to. Or I could just not date. That realization was a God send! I can choose to retire (I was 30 at the time) or I can suit up for another brutal round. I chose to retire. Later, my church conned me into getting back out there with things like you're suppressing a God given desire, which was true. I do desire a relationship & that is God given, but if the relationship isn't forthcoming, what alternative does one have to suppressing it? Keep in mind that these were the same people who were telling me that marriage wasn't all that it's cracked up to be & the magic is over after about 1-2 years. After dating a few church women (supposedly the holy grail of women [the right women]) & having things end pretty much the same way as non-church women (nowhere), I was told that the reason I was failing was because I needed to make a lot of changes to my life. So, overhaul my entire life hoping that a woman will take notice & do a bunch of things that I don't really want to do (at least on my own, I'd rather do them with a partner) on the off chance this gets a woman (nevermind the question of did she accept me for me or for all the stuff that I had) or go back into retirement. And retirement seemed to be the better option. In other words (well, both my words & everyone else's) the cost was too high; the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
As a Chinese man,i knew that plenty of women thought that women are oppressed by men even though in China men should give women bride price before the marriage(about 60k dollars while the resident income is around 800 dollars per month)
But woman in china are very feminine.
I agree with you, and like some other rare women you seem to understand women and men and their differences in the way the think, feel and what prioritise in life. Unfortunately most of the women don't understand this differences and often what they say contradict what they really want. I think that this has been caused by Feminism and as well as men that keep validating and encouraging bad behaviour in women (for instance when they follow, subscribe or give thumbs up to women on tiktot or Instagram where the messages conveyed is superficial or narcisistic
I would rather date a man that went his own way than the absolute jackoffs polluting dating sites that make me hate, despise, and loathe those sites and dating in general.
With that out of the way lol... yes, some of us do care. Men have it harder right now than any other time in human history. And a few bad apples are ruining the whole bunch, unfortunately.
I honestly appreciate and respect your viewpoint. Yes, you are the right way and doing the right thing......the only problem is good women like you are very few and far between. But make no mistake, there are countless of men who are some of the biggest jackoffs you have ever seen in your life, and I have wondered for years how some of these creeps and pigs could even buy a 2nd date, little alone have been married before and with kids.
It's tough to work against our DNA, and I think most women (yourself included) enjoy the same toxicity that destroys the relationship. Exciting at first but headed for a cliff. No blame, it's just so consistent I haven't heard another theory that explains it. I'm guessing there are tons of "Great guys" in your circle that would be a great match for "someone else".
@@NilsMacQ I've literally caught feels for someone I once told "You look like a serial killer" lol, he was a good dude and we got along great. but it was long-distance and neither was in a position to change that. Then I fucked it up due to alcohol abuse and being a shitty person. It was then that I started working on myself and now I'm happy with who I am. It also turns out I'm bipolar (not what you think that means, it is NOT 'flipping the bitch switch') and during my manic phases, well, thinking I'm better than someone was a big thing. Thankfully I'm now self-aware enough that I shut that down when it happens.
I don't have any guys like that in my circle. I've never had the "you're a great guy you'll find someone! (who isn't me)" talk with any friend.
I will add this, relating to my original comment about guys with their shit together. There's a guy at work, modest appearance, dresses in t-shirts, nobody really paid him any mind pre-COVID. We came back to the office 3 years later, and EVERY woman knows his name. His appearance did not change, he's also chubby to fat, probably could use a hair cut. But he walks and talks with a quiet confidence he didn't have before. He never yells or shouts, helps others consistently, is generous, doesn't talk behind people's backs...
But I won't date a coworker :P that's a line I have steadfastly refused to cross my entire career and don't see that changing.
@@NilsMacQ Oh, and I have ADHD as well, which means I have to be very careful. I can get caught up in someone incredibly easily, be intensely interested in them, and then a few weeks later just become completely disinterested. So tbh I'm hesitant to date at all because putting someone through that to jerk the rug out from under them just seems unfair.
@@Emily_M81 So interesting that you dated someone you told looked like a serial killer. Serial killers get a LOT of fan mail.
I know a woman who dated a “jock”. At a party he started yelling at and pushing g around a “nerd” as they were leaving. She was upset because she didn’t like violence and didn’t want him to fight especially someone with someone less going for him.When they got in the car she noticed although she was a grey at her bf she was turned on by him and was aware enough to notice her values clashing with her biology. I think this happens a lot and very few of us are that aware, much less willing to accept it.
Great that you’re aware of some
Of your blind spots, so important
There really is nothing that feels like the touch of a woman. Women can be beautiful, loving, empathetic creatures but man I am just burnt out. I need to step away and reflect for a while. Thank you for understanding.
from the MGTOW point of view that I follow. (sorry, I don't know the language of Shakespeare)
I'm just a simple Frenchman, a "farmer", in France, a lot of people including women have killed me. I left the country 15 years ago. I was destroyed. I have been bullied all my life. but I never gave up thanks to my family. My late mother told me one day "follow your instinct, it will keep you alive)
I had 2 relationships, and 2 “sex plans”. I stopped because I felt dirty. I rebuilt myself in the country where I live, my family who lives in this country helped me mentally. but I chose this path after visiting a museum and studying in Japan, the way of the sword by Miyamoto Musashi. I returned, transformed.
and today, I am serene to face the second part of my life. I have to manage my business and my small farm there.
I would live as I died. as a free and serene man.
Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret
My career path is a valuable asset in my life Bd I give my devotion to it.
Excellent, thank you.
I have been in a sexless abusive marriage for 22 years. The only reason I stayed is I have two children n I can’t leave my children to this abusive woman. Being single is better than being lonely n waiting for death for the abuse to be over.
I know a woman on Facebook who once posted something about how women would be happier in a society without men. So, I told her that I support her on that and that there should be a mid-sized town somewhere where men are not allowed to enter for any reason. I then told her that her and her girlfriends and the other women there would now be 100% resposible for any construction, building maintenance, plumbing and larger water infrastructure, electricity and larger electrical infrastructure, road maintenance even if it's 100 degrees outside, roofing even if it's 100 degrees outside, saitation including trash collecting and sewer cleaning and maintanance, cleanup after storm damage. Trucking in all the goods they will need, logging for wood they will need. Getting a job on an oil rig for the petroleum products they will need. Funny, she never posted anything like that again after this response.
Men built and maintain the world these shrews live in. They spend so much time in their own bubble they are clueless to that fact.
If men went on strike for one day the collapse of society would begin immediately.
Unfortunately, as is too often the case with women: Logic-and-Reason.exe was never installed at the factory.
Radfem Julie Bindel says all men should be held in detention camps for life.
Without men .. women would be living naked in a cave with no electricity or technology. For some reason the radical feminists ignore this reality.
I spent 8 years with a woman who used me as a walking wallet. I got us a house, I paied the majority of bills, I did most of the chores inside AND outside the house.
When I finally had enough of the abuse and lack of effort, I left.
She took half the money for a house she put no money on.
I lost my social circle when she told everyone I "almost hit her", because I dared to say I'd defend myself if she kept hitting me.
Got laughed at when I tried to bring charges against her for domestic abuse, even with obvious bruises.
Was told I was lucky I got to keep half when I complained about the unjust enrichment.
Oh and someone we both knew was pissed at ME for the fact SHE had trouble making ends meet after we moved apart. How the hell is it my fault she can't adult?
Been single since then.
Get burned bad enough, you don't put your hand back on the stove.
Good riddance bro!
i'm glad you learned your lesson by making the mistake. thankfully, i learned seeing others make the same mistake over and over again. thanks for re-re-re-re-confirming
Your first, and last sentence says it all. I don't get why women think they have value. They can use sex as an example, but that is supposed to be a mutual thing, and she can withhold it at any time, so it's not valid.
Stories like this are exactly why MGTOW is, and will continue to be, a thing.
@@Stubbies2003 Feminism has made MGTOW the only viable option for men. It's that, or continue making the same mistakes, expecting different results. "Stories like this" are the reality of modern relationships.
You truly don't know a woman until you meet her in court. 🤔
.....and live with them a minimum of 2 years.
I call it Date and Switch. Trust me. She is NEVER the woman you dated... Especially in Court.
Mgtow is not a movement its a way of life. Women just don't get it.
They never have and it makes them mad.
🤭🍻🤙🏽🇦🇺
I applied and tested for a job a few years ago. Even though I came out the highest in the testing, the director told me he wanted to hire me, but I wasn't a female or from the considered ethnic race they desired and as such they couldn't hire me. A year later this business contacted me and the director told me they went through 7 people they hired and had to fire that met their female and ethnic requirements and they still needed to fill the position. He wanted to know if I'd be interested in the job. I laughed and said that I took job at a different business after his business wouldn't hire me because I wasn't a female and of their desired ethnic race. I also told him I would never work at a business that had such requirements in hiring a person.
Good for you! I would have added "I won't work for racist sexist company like yours."
Been there, done that one!
Similar thing happened to my brother like 20 years ago... though it was only with race (they were only hiring darkies), and they only made it to the 3rd jack-hole that just stopped showing up after their welfare qualification was met before they called my brother back... he raked them for roughly 80% more than they would've given him had they just hired him right away, and about 30% more than he he was making at the in-between job he had (and this was a semi-skilled factory job--- mostly line-work, but with some mechanic-based maintenance and setup involved, and he had previously been in a journeyman machinist position). He's been there ever since with small but steady raises every year, and bought his third house (the one out in the woods that he always wanted) about 5 years ago, and the company trashed their woke policy.
You racist and sexist requirements, don't sugarcoat what this bullshit is. Essentially it's racism and sexism towards white males.
The problem with that is all businesses have those requirements now. You just might not always fall victim to it but affirmative action and other such things have changed the world and now there are quotas for genders and ethnic groups. Sad fact of life now days. The best person doesn't necessarily get the job.
It is simply TOO DANGEROUS, to marry and have kids
Yep. Way to much risk for nowhere near an equal reward.
Fear of being hurt is controlling your mind and your life.
@@exothermal.sprocket More like fear of finicial devastation & incarceration.
Fear in general. "I might get hurt in some manner if i do that"
Instead of "I'm sure glad i only cared about myself, what an empty deathbed i made for myself"
What exactly, are you afraid of? Child support? Cheaper than raising them. Lol.
Start worrying about what you're missing, and maybe you'll begin to notice all the women that actually might give a fuck about you.
Pussies
@@mstump17315 Regardless. You're admitting fear is controlling your mind and life.
Funny how there's this sudden outpouring of "men, we value you, don't leave!", when women finally wake up to the fact that men are walking away _in droves_ and they are feeling the effects. I hope more men continue to wake up and walk on, not less.
It's like crying at a funeral. People don't cry because the person is gone, they cry because they feel the pain of their own loss.
I'm not here to provide things for women any more. Been there, tried that, got abused _hard_ and there's no way back from it.
Amen
"men, we value you, don't leave!" Or to translate into English "Put this bridle, bit and harness back on the get back to work! Back onto the plantation with you, slave!" Nope!! Been there, done that. Ain't never going back!
One of the ways in which this is happening is the increase in women talking about this on YT. We call these women - at least most of them - Chameleons and Grifters. Don't take any of them too seriously - they don't care about you, they care about what you are no longer willing to provide them.
Like the chick in this video. While she was kind of talking about MGTOW, she was mostly talking about herself.
@@Doberman_6773 most men won’t realize this especially the tradcon losers but men need to fail to learn.
Going MGTOW has changed my life. After a lifetime of simping and seeking validation from women I'm now focusing all my energies on myself. I'm now more confident, independant and intelligent then I've ever been before. The only downside is I want to socialize less nowadays.
How do you deal with the loneliness though dude?
@@ApastronRetro To be honest I rarely have the time to be lonely. I work long and unsociable hours and have to be so focused that I don't think of much else. When I'm not working I have so much to catch up on that my days off are equally as busy. I don't have time to be lonely tbh.
sounds like you work hard
@@williamspitzschuh8167 Oh, I do! Sometimes I work long days.
that's amazing, but i dont think it's necessarily mgtow. Mgtow also views feminism as negative towards men, and what you did was a self-developing journey, which is unrelated to issues with feminism
Less stress, no manipulation and no control using female schemes
And no hassle with dating scene
The list goes on...
Prostitutes are rented
girlfriends are leased
Wives are financed...
This women is a dating coach - never trust her.
Then enjoy celibacy
Everything is a risk: reward ratio
The risks in simply dealing with, let alone marrying, women is not worth the benefits modern women provide us
Simply put, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
On another one of Sarah's videos, I posted "Never enter into a contract with a party that is incentivized to break that contract"...It triggered the nerve of quite a few women AND men to which the latter I was surprised.
Modern marriage is not real marriage. It's just a social safety net for women now, where men only get what crumbs the women deigns to throw them. They win no matter what happens because the government would rather make you keep paying for them after a divorce than have to add them into the welfare system. It's a rigged game.
@@jaobidan2358 I mean. You're not wrong. Marriage IS a contract (that has absolutely ZERO to do with love), and it is completely handled in such a way that it rewards women for breaking it.
@@jaobidan2358 one of my masters once told me "anyone who isn't willing to sign a contract has no intention of fulfilling the agreement."
What benefits?
No wife, happy life.
Agreed. I've always noticed that nothing rhymes with happy husband.
That’s what I say.
Ayyyy that's my line 😂
Happy life, submissive wife. Too bad there are none of them in the Western world anywhere.
Unfortunately, it's not true in the end. Unmarried men delete themselves the most in later life. 😞
I went out to the driveway one late winter day where water collected and froze, making it hazardous not only for anyone walking the sidewalk, but also for us to safely drive into and out of the driveway. I began to use a pick axe to chop the ice out. My then-wife came out where I was working, now having taken off my heavy coat and now down to a t shirt, or, even no shirt, and asked, why it was taking so long? I said nothing, just held the tool out to her. She took it, made about 3 attempts to chop the ice, then, gave it back to me, smiled sheepishly a walked away. Now she knew why it was "taking so long". Not as easy as she thought.... Sadly, even doing chores like that, doesn't get a man laid later, either. It's just another part of the man's work day.
I was married for 17 years to a covert narcissist. Being self employed as a site work contractor some days were so physically demanding I would return home exhausted eating my dinner in the bathtub as I soaked to remove coal tar emulsion from my hands and face from spraying 200k s.f. of asphalt. I often fell asleep with the plate in my hand more than a couple of times. When I wasn't working, I was working at home on the yard, landscaping, washing and maintaining both of our vehicles, tackling the "honey do" list etc..We lived in a nice home one block from the golf course, she had her Eddie Bauer SUV, 2 vacations a year and even had the golden doodle. No matter what I did, she wasn't happy and after years of walking on egg shells and dealing with all of the drama and fights over nothing she decided to try physical abuse. That was the final straw the broke the camels back. I filed for divorce and went no contact. It's been 5 years and I am not looking back. I kept the dog, my 500 SL convertible, my motorcycle and right now am MGTOW with no immediate plans to change this. I'm focusing on my business and IF I ever get back in the game, I think I'll try somewhere outside the United States such as Asia, Eastern Europe or maybe South America.
I worked outside of the house, did all the house work, cleaning and cooking especially the cooking part because that calms me down. All I asked for was some good music and a little quiet time, that was just too much control said the narcissist. If I had to depend on her, the house would be rubble.
Nothing matters. Women don’t care about men. It’s that simple. My wife doesn’t even know I exist unless she spots something she doesn’t like. Then, she never forgets it, it’s all she thinks about. Women arrogantly think they are complete and think their job is to break and fix men to their liking. I have little respect for the women that were the biggest influence in my life. They have been cruel. They know I can’t do anything in response. It’s awful. No woman in my life has EVER reliably been there when I am in need, only when they are. I want a relationship but is it worth it? My experience with women is that they don’t mind being abusive. It’s power and control. That nurturing stereotype of women is completely false. It’s gone. They have forced us out and then claim victimhood. Rich. I’d like to meet just one good woman in my lifetime. I haven’t seen it. I see abuse. I wish I could see it otherwise but unfortunately that has been my experience. Women lack empathy. They’ve become cold, insensitive. It’s going to backfire horribly if it continues. It’s sad. I’m a good catch but what’s the point. Get caught, get crushed? No thanks.
No amount of work you do for her or your home will ever be appreciated. Do whatever you need to for yourself, don’t do it for her.
A lot of men are considered ugly and not worthy of a woman's time or consideration. Regularly told that we are vile, disgusting and useless individuals. We have moved on and decided to concentrate on our own lives.
I strive to be the worst of the worst - King Worm
You same men tell women they are not valuable after 35 and we hit the wall
@@0206-b8z Well, is it true or not?
@@0206-b8z and you samr women just play I know you are but what am I forever. Stop feeling insulted and face the core issues that men are talking about.
@@0206-b8z I agree but it is also a harsh but true biological reality. A woman's fertility falls off a cliff at around 35. Doctors consider pregnancies at that age and older as high risk. Just like fat guys are unattractive to women, old ladies are undesirable if a man wants a family. I'm not saying you can't have kids after 35. My wife had children (with me) at 32, 36, and 42 - at no point did we use birth control except immediately after a birth. Notice the gaps? She was 31 when we married and was pregnant within a few weeks - no issues with fertility.
It's not a movement, it's a Philosophy.
I agree, but many are making it into an IDENTITY (which, in a society plagued with identity politics; inevitably results in every identity turning into a movement once it gains enough numbers/momentum).
no. its not a philosophy, its a cult.
@@lyianxyou spelled that last word incorrectly
Absolutely, brother. MGTOW saves men's and boy's lives.
Living in authentic truth. Women equal problems.
We appreciate the sentiment, Sarah Dawn. However, it's a hard pass from me as nothing has changed and it's better that we work on ourselves than on women.
I appreciate that there's a VV out there that "gets it" but it's too late. This is too far gone.
Modern feminist women are unworthy of love, dignity or respect.
Feminism is government funded and court approved yet mgtow, MRAs or bachelors are attacked by everyone for simply avoiding being attacked.
I refuse to train or mentor a woman of any age. The owner knows I'll quit on the spot. Too close to retirement to risk metoo BS.
I will not help or assist any female not of my family, no matter how dire her circumstances.
You're strong and independent, you got it.
Yup they have their woman pals, let them cook.
I'm one of those guys that is so much happier now being without a woman in my life. I actually smile when I go to sleep thinking about it. I wake up every morning planning my day out doing what I want when I want. I don't have to listen to a woman continually complaining. At 69 and I am in super great shape and have been seen as being 45 by people at the gym. I haven't seen any women, my age that could ever keep up with me. I have noticed that women hit an age where they actually start looking more like old men. I am so happy to be single. No more drama, no more being blamed for being a man, no more complaining that men have it so much easier then women and no more competing for a woman's attention. Color me happy. If I die tomorrow, it would be ok, because I have had a good life.
As men get older they look like Sean Connery.
As women get older they also look like Sean Connery. 😅
I'm a 56 year old man who has gone his own way. I have been in many relationships and have never been shown true love or appreciation. I am a very caring and faithful man, and always got cheated on, taken advantage of, and ridiculed as a "beta". I hope all the women that left me are happy with the narcissistic manipulators they left me for.
Pay them back by waking up younger men ;) When these modern bimbos start seeing their potential Hosts dwindle… they’ll start to panic and their true nature will come out even more :) It’s already starting a little bit but needs to be amped up.
I hear you, brother.
I share a similar history, I'm 54 and also not a 6 figure man. Wish i had the knowledge of today in my 20s...
I'm sorry for your unpleasant experiences with dating. Unfortunately it seems good guys finish last with dating. There are good women with integrity that won't challenge your masculine core out there. However, we as men do not have ESP so finding such women has become a very risky endeavor. Good Luck.
@@dampfbucke I refused to have anything to do with women since I turned 15. Now in my mid 30s, own a house, car, learning a trade, have a degree, investment account just hit $100k. I have zero debt, I workout 3 times a week, and go hiking at national parks. Far better off without modern toxic women who only want to exploit and hurt me.
Hi Sarah, thanks for your work and your understanding. I wanted to shed a little light on the thought process some of us MGTOW men have when we arrive at our decision to walk away.
The vast majority of men who get to MGTOW have been burned somehow by a woman / women. I think most of us realize that "Not all women" are like the one / few that hurt us. That isn't the problem.
The problem is as follows:
1. We realize that we got it wrong with the woman / women who hurt us.
2. We paid the price for being wrong. (Divorce, family court, HR departments etc.)
3. We SLOWLY and PAINFULLY recovered / are recovering from that time we got it wrong.
4. We realize that we might get it wrong again.
5. We realize that the cost of getting it wrong again is too high / not one we are willing to pay.
6. We realize that the probability of getting is perfectly right on our very next try is very very very low.
7. Only logical solution. If you can't afford to play the game, don't play the game.
I think most of us know that some good women exist. It's that the cost of possibly getting it wrong has made the game prohibitively expensive.
Still, I appreciate your efforts and work. Hopefully voices like yours help dismantle the system that is currently causing more and more men to go their own way. That said, its a good way. We have cake.
Very well stated; and understandable.
I've learned that most of the women who aren't a problem arent single. If youre a quality woman you pretty much can get any guy you want. Ive realized that being a 6/10 guy all things considered Im left with obese single moms as dating options. No thank you.
This is all the things that got me to decide to remain a bachelor before I even heard of mgtow or MRAs
#5: "The juice isn't worth the squeeze"
#7: "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
Very well put brother. Been mgtow for 3 years now. I still shudder at the thought of what could happen if I played that game again...
I don't know about MGTOW, but given my place in life, why take the risk of a relationship when there's nothing in it for me?
My last company lost a contract that it held for over 20 years because a woman claimed sexual harassment when she was fired. There was no sexual harassment. I know, because I was there at the time it supposedly occurred. Well, thanks to her the entire office was forced to go through a sexual harassment course, and then we were up for a new contract that we lost to a crappy competitor. I don't know why women need to be in the workplace if they're going to throw childish tantrums like that. We all lost our jobs because of one vindictive woman. Should I want one of those in my life?
I hope the company owner finds here and pays her back.
Typical fefail behavior.
I have a software programming company. I'm the boss. I will never employ women because metoo, false accusation, etc... I don't care the opinions. It is a profit oriented world and it is my responsibility, not the idiot's rights. Sorry, I don't need women.
Red Pill is not about hate. It is about the reality. Hating reality is stupid.
It's sad that the average heterosexual male who is hardwired to be attracted to women has checked out because women are no longer pleasant. Think about that... Women have made themselves to be so unpleasant and bitchy that men do not see them as being worth dating even for casual sex.
Bullshit, some of these MGTOW chumps despise women...
For me as a 39 year old the dating scene feels like a real me way street. Women CONSTANTLY demand that as a man you just meet these requirements. You must be above average height, above average income, treat her like a queen, above average etc etc. in short CONDITIONAL love.
But the moment I hold HER to a standard or ask something of her….well now im toxic. I have to tip toe around her triggers but she can stomp on all of mine and not give a damn. While I’m not opposed to dating, at this point I’m not looking. the right woman will have to come into my life not the other way around.
37 year old man and right there with you brother.
I’m a 43 year old Woman and I feel it’s the same way for me. I’m so tired of being jerked around by Men, for all the reasons that you listed.
You need to focus on just 1 women that will accept you instead of generalizing all women
@@0206-b8z I can generalize because there is a vast chorus of men experiencing the same thing in the dating scene. If you are an average man you are invisible to the average woman. Worse if you are a man of integrity and wisdom you are NOT getting noticed because women are picking primarily from wealth and status things a wise man will never show off.
@@somethingsomethingsomethingdar coming from a woman God is protecting you be happy
I am 50 years and has been single and never dated women. Some may see me as weird but have never been happier. I am more than glad continuing my solitude journey of life
Indeed, brother. Those fefails aren't even worth the air they breathe.
50% divorce rate in the usa (for 1st marriage. 2nd goes to 60-67%). Around 70% of those are started by women. Women get custody 90% of the time. Of alimony payments only 3% are given to men.
**Why should men stay??** Can anyone pitch a genuine reason why men ought to risk it all on those odds?
Please, SELL US on marriage. On relationships.
When a woman can end it on a whim due to no fault divorce, prenups get tossed out, she takes the house and the kids and you owe alimony and child support. I beg ANYONE to tell me why men should take that risk.
If BOTH spouses are American born, the rate is 70%. Anyway, I think it is all lies coming from the government and that the rate is likely even higher.
I completely agree.Having been through 1 divorce, I really don't see the benefit of doing it again and possibly having my life ruined. I've seem so many friends driven into financial hell due to divorces and never bouncing back.
The institution of marriage should be completely done away with. No marriage, no divorce. MGTOW
Marriage benefits no man. Women weaponize sex, pseudo affection...just long enough to hook a man, then to leave on a whim. Possibly due to coaxing from other women, seeing an opportunity for a "better" life or just knowing that the law will reward them in the end. As long as no fault divorce exists, a marriage certicate is as good as a death sentence. A woman can manipulate any situation she wants and the man has no ground to stand on. The only man that benefits from marriage may be the divorce lawyer.
It is worst in Russian speaking countries. It seems like it is still ok in the USA compated to Russia lol
Got divorced after being married to a covert narcissist for 23yrs. Have spent the last 1.5 yrs working on myself. Been in counseling for 2 yrs to figure it all out. Started my own business, getting back in shape doing the things I wasn't "allowed" to do. I'm pretty damn happy now. Maybe will date in the future but I really like my independence. MGTOW for now. Thanks for all you do.
Great job sir. Keep grinding brother.
Tons of women are covert narcissists. Did she act like a victim, and apologize for little things that weren't here fault, but not apologize for real hurtful things she did? Did she beat herself up over minor mistakes because she thought she was too smart to ever make a mistake? Did she beat up OTHER people way worse (with accusations or trying to get them fired or tearing them down with lies) because she thought they weren't good enough for her? Did she change herself to 'win you' and she never liked any of those things? Did 3 types of people exist to her - those she wants validation from, those she hates, and lesser humans she ignores?
MGTOW FOREVER!! 👍👍
@RealYRM pretty much they're all the same men or women. They all run the same playbook.
I havent dated too much.. So i neeever understood women restricting men by not 'allowing' them to do things they want to do.
The moment any woman says, "trust me", I don't.
I dated a girl who had me meet her mom over lunch. That night she messaged me saying "Thanks for another perfect day... You even met my mom... How I feel about you will never change..." She broke up with me 4 days later for no valid reason. So yes, you can't believe what women say since they are driven by emotion.
The MISANDRY has gotten so bad that I know that dying ALONE is my DESTINY. I am 62 years old and I am to the point that I just don’t give a damn about being in a relationship anymore. Again, I just don’t care anymore. At my workplace, there are NUMEROUS female coworkers but, I just prefer to work alone. I can focus more on my work anyway.
I Met my greatest love at 61, for 9 years we were amazing together. She died of a brain tumour. I will never give up on love. NEVER. 🙂
I'm 67. My dog is better company than anyone I have been in a relationship with. I completely stayed away from women at my last job. Still wasn't enough.
It's self defense.
Fuck work! I want a companion to lift my life to a new height. I used to work nights alone. Always a delight to crawl in bed next to my loving partner. If you've never been there I feel sorry for you.
At work you HAVE to ignore the ladies. Vaginas have teeth.
Don’t worry man. There will always be a man with you and caring for you, even when you die. (I sat with an elderly neighbour who had chosen to die at home the night he died. It was an absolute honour for me. He helped me grow up fully into manhood by facing that with him. I regard that as the greatest gift I have received in my life. You have brothers out there that you don’t even know, strangers that will stand by you simply because we are men.✊
MGTOW is the only manosphere group that I agree with and have some real respect for. I am so tired of seeing men who don't have their life together complain about women.
Yes, it's hard. Yes, it's not fair. We get it. What do you want to do about it? Complain every day? Still let your little head make all your decisions? Excuse all the abuse and manipulation that you get from women? WHY? What are they offering that makes all of this worth it? And if it is worth it, stop complaining so much.
MGTOW have decided none of this is worth it, they're going to take their balls and go home. Try and live the best life they can on their own terms.
I'm not there yet. But I'm very close. My peace and sanity are far more valuable to me than sex from a messy woman in a messy relationship.
Very true ❤
It’s interesting you notice this about the MGTOW movement. I’ve noticed the same aspects of it as well and that it’s more reasonable than many of the things being said within the Incel movement, a more extremist version of MGTOW. On the one hand, there are men who women will probably never choose, hence going incel, but there’s also a lot of abhorrent extremism within that group. To me, MGTOW is more like stoicism, the philosophical way of making the most of your life for yourself and with what life gives you.
BINGO. The best part is you can be non-political or even blend in with groups that don't support MGTOW necessarily.
And the reason why they don't get their life together is because they understand they can never reach the top 1% It's physically impossible for every guy to run a business (Also economically, how are you going to run a business if there are no customers because everyone is busy running their own company) .
There's bosses and there are workers. This is the structure of modern living. So THAT's why men opt to do nothing because they can't do anything to change that.
And not everyone is work focused, not everyone wants to slave through this life just to have a few more numbers show up on their bank account. More to life than that.
We are currently living in an era of inflation and greed and you expect someone to work 2-3 jobs just to somehow magically have SOME freetime and then with that freetime completely dedicate it to a relationship, which end's the moment women get 'bored'. Why would you put any time/effort/money into something that probably won't last.
31, make good money, and NEVER getting sucked into the scam we call marriage here... Only gumps and simps marry in the west nowadays. Get your passport boys...
As they say, all the hard work we invest in ourselves will never let us down in the future, leave and take cash and prizes! Men, keep improving for yourselves and reap the rewards!
I dont miss drama. I enjoy peace and calmness at home, when I come to relax after work.
Who would have predicted that back in mid 90s when the internet became mainstream it would have caused the enlightenment of men regarding women
The word was getting out anyway. Guys fall into 1 of 2 groups: Those that got screwed in divorce court or sued unjustly by women and those that know someone that that happened to. It became not rare, not at all unheard of.
@@burnerjack01 That pretty much became the norm. Most women are pure evil.
the internet has always been a positive negative thing. There tons of garbage and harm, but it has also democratized the attention and the capability to spread knowledge
youtube university
i remember this 13 year old son of my friend just chiming in nonstop about global politics and he was Right!. The facts were there. I asked how at 13? he said TH-cam
I have an MBA. 45 years ago I worked for Ma Bell, before the breakup. To get into management you started as a telephone operator, you know, sitting in front of the board and manually routing calls. A management position came up, guess who got it? A female high school graduate. I got out of there, the handwriting was on the wall.
No country can survive and last in a matriarchy
Yes they even on police jobs hiring highschool only educated females she even knows this where's the guys that age I would like for this women to put that on TH-cam they are on police fire military etc men older you can even tell when seeing it yes saw advertisement and police videos hiring unfair ages please have her report that too
Women must stop orienting themselves toward fixing things for men and start fixing themselves. Men who are aware have moved forward and are fine.
Yes, amazing how much unsolicited advice women keep pushing on men. Women CAUSED ALL THESE PROBLEMS and men have moved on, seeing it for the unfixable disaster hyperspoiled western women are.
Modern women ask "what's wrong with men?" MGTOW men ask "what's wrong with me?"
I think the difference speaks for itself.
Scrolling through the comments and I am seeing FAR more men's horror stories with women than women leaving comments about pledging to do better in relationships. Think about that.
And anytime a relationship goes south the women say its because their ex was toxic. Funny, I really don't think its even possible that there are that many toxic men that women seem to always date toxic guys. Either they are lying, or these women are extremely bad at picking men and take no ownership of the fact they choose the wrong guys.
Anorher chameleon
I was screwed over by my ex. Two kids and married for 7 years - she became emotionally distant and total personality change - “coincidentally” right at the same time I was getting some inheritance money from the passing for my grandpa. I have no intentions of getting in another relationship, it’s not worth it. It makes more sense to focus on being the best man I can be for myself and my kids.
My ex went from man to man, and has also introduced a new man to the kids (this failed within a month of her introducing them). She has then tried to come back to me - but no, I have self respect.
Stay strong brother....she only wants your wallet. She would milk you for all she can and give as little as she can until you are drained.
I'm under the impression that you told your children something to the effect of "I had to give up on your mom, but I'll *never* give up on you."
@@cjanquart No, I don’t talk negatively to my kids about their mom. She’s free to do whatever she wants, and so am I.
It’s not about giving up on anyone. But there is a time you need to walk away from a broken person, because it’s not your responsibility to fix them.
I gave up on dating when i was 24. I am now 37 and I am trying to date again. The same reasons i stopped dating back then are the same ones annoying me now. One word responses. I always feel like i have to carry the conversation 100% of the time. I hardy ever get simple questions back about myself. I always get one worded responses and then I have to quickly come up with another question or they immediately go to their phone. I often feel like i am on date solely for their entertainment
And then these very same women turn around and complain about "Why don't any men know how to hold a conversation?!". I'm with you on this one; engaging with modern women is often like pulling teeth and then everyone but her is the problem
@Waywardbiscuit
Do not allow yourself to be treated like that. If a person uses their cellphone without excusing themselves (to take a necessary call), I walk. You HAVE to be brutal. You wouldn't treat anyone else like that, why in the world would you allow yourself to be treated like that? This is that other person in dating mode. If they pull this crap on a DATE...
Well them going to the phone pretty much eliminates you being any level of entertainment for those dates. More like the handy wallet to pay for her food that she has to "put up with" until the date is over sounds more like it.
If a woman is not expressing interest in you by carrying a conversation and asking you questions then it almost 100% of the time she is not attracted to you. Brutal truth I have learned (36 y,/o been divorced 2 years and have not been on a date with a serious potential partner since becoming single again).
You provide free drinks and a meal. That is what you are there for.
We can see all over TH-cam, TikTok etc, women (correction, girls) who say they're not interested in a man who doesn't or isn't this or that, or doesn't make six figures. As if they're "worth" that.
They'll eventually be 50 with a toy
And a cat.
@@DanWolfe-n4v multiple cats.
For decades, women have loudly proclaimed that they don't need men.
So men listened and guess what, we're much happier now.
The freedom is delicious. Thank you, women!
I just have to make myself happy, which is a much easier proposition than the alternative.
While on the job in a lab setting at a hospital one day I reached for a pen in a female co-workers lab coat pocket..basically hip-tummy level. She immediately makes a remark about sexual harassment loudly in front of other co-workers.
This is the world we live in today.
Why wouldn't you say something first, though? That's just good manners. You're not wrong about her immediately going to SH, however.
You invaded her personal space bro. Did this woman ever indicate anything to you that she wanted you make a physical advance on her?
Her reaction seems a bit much but you gotta be able to read a situation man.
@@JB-kx9bx Agreed. Even if you didn't mean anything weird about it, it's a work setting, dude. Why you gotta do her like that?
Dude......odds are that one is on you. No touchie
@@JB-kx9bx Agreed. Going to HR is rough BUT even I don't like anyone invading my space by touching me or taking my stuff. Normal people ask "May I borrow....?" You don't just take something off someone if you need to borrow it. ASK first.
I was at work and had an itch in the middle of my back, tried using doorway, female asked what I was doing told her and asked if she would help. She said no it would make her feel uncomfortable, guy walked out of his office and scratched the middle of back. Thought that was the end. Got called into HR because she felt that uncomfortable.
Women have been taught that everything makes them a victim. They're being taught at college that, if they get buzzed, and a guy gets buzzed, and they have willing relations, but feel bad about it later, at any point in the next several decades, they can accuse him of assault. Everything is assault to them.
The laws incentivize women to act this way. A part that isn't discussed enough is that these companies don't want to get sued and a lot of these women are looking for a pay day. In any situation involving a man, a woman can say that the employer had a "hostile work environment" and can sue the company for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even if the suit is frivolous, the company still has to pay a lawyer and, if the suit is not dismissed, they have to pay a settlement or even lose at trial. It's cheaper for the company to reprimand and fire men over trivial things so, even if a woman sues, there is a record of the company trying to mitigate the harm and taking corrective measures. Women can do this with impunity too for the most part. A female accuser will have to make multiple BS claims before a company fires her and, by that time, several men could have lost their jobs over fake accusations. If one of a woman's BS claims are successful, she could get tens of thousands of dollars. It doesn't even have to be for money. A woman can simply not like a male co-worker and do this. There is no downside to a woman making accusations. The safest route for men is to avoid women at work, which can include working in all-male environments, working remotely or having multiple witnesses when interacting with female colleagues.
For me, about 4 years ago, I realized every woman I had ever know had used me for everything they could get and discarded me when they had gotten what they wanted, found something better or I busted them for what they were doing. This includes my own mother. So, to say I have a pretty crummy attitude toward women and relationships is an understatement. That day of enlightenment was pretty disappointing. Everything I wanted to believe about people was pretty much shattered all at once. Now I have my limits and anyone I’m with knows I won’t cross those limits. I’m much happier. No one uses me now.
Unfortunately, what you've said is true. Even someone's own mother is capable of manipulation simply because she is a woman. It's in her nature to benefit herself, first & foremost, over any man, including her son. Many men refuse to acknowledge this fact because they hold their mother in holy reverence
Story of my life. U r not alone. Exactly. Even my mother brought cousin sisters into my family to help her destroy me my brothers and fathers lives. The succubus spirit is alive and is in all of them
Absolutely true.
My mother was a saint who protected me like a lion. So sorry you had that experience. Maybe mine was older. At one time a mother made sure her son didn't end up with a bad women and would question any girl you brought home.
@@Sean-sk3nq In my case, she was a lion too but not the same. She would threaten anyone I was with and tell them I belonged to her. Basically she’d try to chase them off. None of these ladies had the guts or the kindness to tell me what was going on until I was in my 50s and she had dementia. At that point there was no point in even talking to her about it. I traced it all the way back to when I was 16 years old. She did a lot of damage and caused me a lot of grief trying to manipulate me because she was very afraid of being abandoned. I understand what happened now, her father died when she was maybe 10. She was afraid but I never abandoned her. She was born in 1935.
We only have this one life, there is no other life after that.
Men want a meaningful life, women want a “happy” one. Both goals are incompatible in the 21st century
I know an Asian dude back in college who did not meet the 666 requirements and had the bad fortune of being a South Asian male - which women seem to find least attractive. Could not get a date at all. Kind and thoughtful but not a simp. Family oriented and very ambitious. Ate healthy and traveled the world. Loves sports, music and is intellectually gifted. Fast forward 10 years later, he successfully built a multi-million dollar company from the ground up, and now all the same women want to date him. He turned Passport Bro went back to his ancestral homeland and has been married for many years happily now.
Sounds like a wise Asian proverb.
Women wait near the finish line and pick the winners.
@@jaysala2760 Sensible men pole vault over them, no thank you.
@@jaysala2760 bank without contract
Sarah, please investigation and do a video on why single men don't ruin the relationships of men who are in relationships; yet single women believe it is their mission in life to make all their married friends or women in LTR's to leave their man.
True!
Why are you asking a woman to do an investigation?.
Wake up.
Go to a male creator.
Warrenking is right my friend asking a woman to do anything would be like trying to hold a conversation with your dog. They lack the understanding and they just simply do t care about me like men do about women. Remember A man wrote the titanic; women are not looking for love they’re looking for provisions. Time to wake up yet?
She doesn't investigate. Did you see the redpill video she made? According to her: women are more likely to message average men on dating apps, care about men's body counts and don't care about a man's wealth. Also the happiest demographic are single women.
MGTOW saving thousands of men’s lives every day 👊😎
Too late, we men don't care anymore, be happy and forever alone..
Passport bros.. here I come🎉
Passport can use to avoid taxes too
The best response to Believe All Women is “Emmet Till.”
Yea, she died in April and never faced any punishment for her actions. Hell has a good place for her.
Amber Heard
Yeah, but that wasn't just women. That was racially motivated by white men as well. U.S. history is full of these kinds of stories.
@@cr2lives
"Believe all women."
There is nothing about race in that statement.
There is no "Yeah, but" moment here.
She was a woman. She was believed.
@@mikey92362 Yeah history is clear that that there is no "yeah but" to what I said. It's unfortunate that the U.S. is so dedicated to re-writing the unfortunate portions of its history.
Good day.
It is very noble to support men Sarah, thank you, but in some cases it is deeper than a couple's trauma, some of us realized the subtle slavery, The double standards, the false accusations and the use of them as a weapon of manipulation, the awakening of men due to the attack of feminism showed us true freedom, 8 years of celibacy have improved my mental and physical health, working 4 hours a day and living like a King, using my free time to reconnect with nature and therefore with my masculinity
The subtle slavery = Exactly
It may be noble what she's doing, but it's too little too late. The ship has already sailed, men are checking out of dating and relationships, and improving their lives for their own benefit. Sorry ladies, if you didn't see this coming, not my problem.
Right there with you!
Where do you live and what do you do allowing you to work 4 hours a week? Im working 55 hours a week just to survive in Houston.
@@JB-kx9bx I live in Argentina, it is 4 hours a day, 5 days a week, I work as a lumberjack, I am single, celibate and I have my own house and a green space to grow food and have some animals, You must stay away from the big cities, they are the epicenter of slavery, embrace the simple and natural life, you do not know freedom until you wake up with the crowing of the rooster as an alarm
I went my own way 9 years ago. I dip my toes in the dating scene every so often but being single is so much better.
cheers 🍻
The peace & quiet of the single life is worth its weight in gold. Once you learn about hypergamy and understand that is underlying female behavior in dating & relationships you realize what you're up against. You are just a placeholder as she actively tries to find a better deal. She is never fully invested in you. She loves what you do for her,but she does not love you. Add to this the sh*t tests, the drama, being taken for granted, and being unappreciated you can see why Men choose to drop out and go their own way.
The thing is that I love women. And I don't blame all women for my experiences. Life sucks and they are looking to maximize their life experience. Who doesn't? What bothers me is that everything I was taught growing up was a lie. Be yourself, the right woman won't care about money, being a good person is more important, etc. It's all BS. Had I known the rules, I may have played the game differently. But at this point, the only winning move is not to play.
@@MW-zz3mv Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win! 😂 It seems that the more of an asshole that you are, the better life results you'll have . ( Look at Joey! ) We were set up for failure, by the people that were supposed to love us the most. And then have the unmitigated audacity to show disapproval, and disappointment when we fail to thrive. Once you realize that the game is rigged, you can start making adjustments, but unlearning a lifetime of behaviors takes time.
Sarah, I appreciate you introspection on this matter. I think there is one main thing you left out though. It is not that a lot of these men are giving up on dating because of past experiences. It is because women only see the top 10% of men. Men have to work harder than ever to attract women of low quality and many feel the juice isnt worth the squeeze.
Hoeflation basically...
@@MylezNevison, "Hoeflation"? I learn a new term today. Can I borrow it?
There is a book I heard of recently,
written by a woman, to women.
It had to do with women marry Mr. Good Enough
Basically the author said that men want 3 things in a woman
relative attractiveness
kindness and compassionate
Able to have a good and intelligent conversation
but then goes on to say that women want/expect 200 things from a man.
I stayed in a crappy marriage for long time because I didn't want to be like my dad. I think the vulnerability of men my age comes from the fact that a lot of us were raised in single parent families, spefically by single mothers. We try too hard not to be the bad guy that we set ourselves up for pain.
Married 29 years and she left and filed for divorce last year.🙄
Imagine 29 Years of compunding the money that you waste... you would be soooo rich now, paying 18 yo hot scorts 😛
You could have like 10 millions... instead you have a divorce hahaha
Lol 😂 what does she think is out there like seriously
Don't think there is something wrong because this is normal now.
Mine went for 20 years.
no way in hell I will do that again.
Yeah, me neither. Thanks.
28 years for me. 2 years ago. I was faithful, loyal, never cheated, never hurt her, loved the vows. She got me good. Never knew the level of deceit and betrayal could be in someone I loved.
She is telling men what they want to hear.
But would she take advantage of her ex husband in a divorce/child support situation.
You can't trust a woman even if she says the right things.
Don't be played.
Women can likely never undo the damage they've done as a whole to men and society.
Women these days aren't nice to be around.
If a woman wanted to separate herself from the pack all she needs to do is be pleasant. Think of all the requirements women place on men these days, but all men ask is that the woman be pleasant. Unfortunately, just being pleasant is asking too much from modern women these days.
@@jaysala2760 Correct Jay.
Most men that I know are not fans of drama and don't want it in our lives at all. Most women I've spent any time with are all about drama and if there is no drama happening she will go out of her way to create drama. I figured out before graduation from public school that while there may be some fun to be had with women there was no long term peace around them and by the time I hit my 30's I no longer wanted anything to do with having any women in my life. This was long before all the talk of pills and MGTOW. I've watched friends get just toally demolished by their wives in divorce after 10, 20 or more years married and forced out of their children's lives just for spite. The latest just last month. 20+ years and just as his income from his best earning years has paid off the majority of debts she'd accrued for her professional education (that she didn't start until after marriage) and she starts making the kind of money that combined with his would have allowed them to put away a lot for retirement and a nicer life together she decides to flush the marriage down the toilet (no fault) and he's looking back at the literal hundreds of thousands he spent of his income over the years to try and make her happy (fertility treatments for her and adoption of kids that she wanted) that he could have invested instead and as he starts to close in on the later years of his career when he should be watching his gains from interest exceed his contributions and just watch the dollar signs stack up with a nearly paid off house he's basically back to square one with no house now having to bust his ass again as he approaches what should be the time he can start to slow down. This cautionary tale isn't rare or even uncommon and happens every day and every hour. I didn't need it to happen to me to see the writing on the wall in the 80's of what divorce laws and family courts were doing to men. Now I see a little bit of hope starting to appear with laws rolling back permanent alimony and the outlawing of paternity fraud in a couple states. I have hope that the laws will change enough that for future generations of men, they won't face utter financial ruin just because they married a woman that wanted to take him for his resources and run. Until this happens nationwide though staying alone is the best policy for every man. Do not shack up, do not marry, and damn sure do not impregnate, stay safe brothers.
For me, the straw to break the camel's back was actually several women in a friend group who dismissed my experiences with SA and other struggles because I was a man. These "friends" proceeded to tell me that the hurt I suffered from being SA'd was invalid because "we get it worse" and that "men getting SA'd is just karma for all the women assaulted by men."
They also said similarly misandrist things about stuff that had nothing to do with sex, for example the lack of homeless shelters for men. Absolutely zero empathy. "If you're a man in a patriarchal system and you're homeless, it's because you're a POS and deserve it." If you express any frustration or feelings of humiliation for things that have nothing to do with sex, they will call you an "incel." Inceldom has transcended lack of sexual experience: it is now used to describe anyone who has "failed" as a man, even if you're not trying to live up to the normalized version of masculinity.
The worst part in all of this wasn't even what they said, it was that the other people in the group validated them at my expense.
Zero sympathy from them. That's why you learn not to even bring it up because they'll do what you just described. Just go MGTOW and do your best.
I stopped talking to femoids for this reason.. I talk to my bros and ignore the femoids even if they need help
What is SA'd?
@@bobanderson3881 assault
Hopefully you dumped that "friend" group.
Quit dating over 5 years ago. Worked on my career and making good money now. Sick of women's ridiculous expectations and demands while offering nothing in return. Dating is a danger zone when men get accused of all kinds of things with zero proof. Better to stay single and enjoy life. It might get lonely but its better than being broken and lonely.
Just read the comments don't waist time on the video
I am an old guy, 74. I watched the changes happen, watched my wife become less and less willing to value her own feminine nature. And with that she became less and less able to notice and appreciate the value I, my masculine nature, added in her life. With the inborn difference in men and women there is a natural dynamic tension. Wise couples value the differences and use the energies of the dynamic tension to fuel their creating what they desire as a couple. It saddens me to see many women now days turn their back on their feminine wisdom and power. I miss the pleasures of being a man intertwining my sacred masculine energies with the divine feminine energies of a woman. I regret that many men no longer recognize the value they create as the express the sacred masculine.