I skipped the hayato portion so fast i knew we arent getting a realistic unbiased rating hayato portion is from 3:36:10 to 4:12:15 so yall can skip it too 😂😂😂😂
Baddie list: 1. Blaster (best fanart imo) 2. Adele 3. Aran (shout out that one guy on max's blog) 4. Female Paladin (could be 1 lowkey) 5. Female DrK 6. Female Demon Slayer 7. Female Hayato 8. Alpha and Beta (package deal, also they come with their sword souls but good luck doing the deed with a soul manifestation) 9. Female Hero 10. Dawn Warrior 11. Female DA (?) (rated low since they don't have a canon portrait even from their origin) 12. Mihile (will parry all of your attempts at intimacy)
280 Mihile main here. Mihile is one of the best solo bossers in the game cause of it's survivability and damage uptime. In party it has tons of utility for survival for party which blocks a lot of attacks, so it doesn't add damage but it can make bossing a lot easier. Damage and burst are average, and for a class which high uptime on damage, it means we can dish out above average damage since we don't spend time running away from bosses like other classes. Mobbing is amazing because we have a summon and low CD aoe skills, we can full map clear and not even move. correction: mihile gives each party member 5% final damage
Best solo mean nothing when endgame you need to be with party all them time. If you can solo Nkalos then you better be with party and play CKalos instead. Soloing boss end at darknell and most endgame player can 1 or 2 burst that boss.
@@miraichan5292 "soloing boss ends at darknell" no it does not......... Regardless of what you're saying, Mihile still does well in party. Mihile's damage is average despite people thinking the damage is bad. If there is a gap between mihile's damage and another class, that gap lessens because the other class has to keep dodging attacks and boss mechanics, while mihile can guard attacks and boss mechanics, and keep attacking the boss while the other class cannot. Mihile's damage is not condensed but rather it is spread throughout the entire boss fight. Mihile also gives party members 5% Final damage each, while having utility that can block attacks and give HP Shields to party members to save them from dying.. you just dont know that mihile is good.. it's not OP or Amazing.. but it's just good. Mihile does totally fine in party. it's just not an OP class. Also idk why you're saying solo ends at darknell, i just soloed Hseren as mihile and im planning to solo NKalos, of course i will join Ckalos party when I can, and when I do, i will be just fine. Yall people like to think that mihile does no damage. you just dont know lol.
For the "Learning Curve" discussion point, I think there needs to be a standard definition for fair comparison... For example 1) Learning required for average damage, or 2) Amount of learning required to reach #% of absolute damage potential, or 3) Gap between skill floor and skill ceiling (dividing this by 2 can indicate example definition 1) And even in doing so, there needs to be more factors considered like: number of different concepts to learn, amount of animation cancelling needed on average, difficulty of button weaving and sequencing, amount of micromanagement required, and impact of min-maxing.
I was one of the guy who picked up Hayato not too long ago, picked him up and raised him w/o Hyperburning lv 220. Said he was clunky, pointed out the flaws in Hayato, said I was gonna quit on him. He is now Lv 253. I'm gonna get him to 260 and probably even higher. I just sort of ended up liking him after trying him out over and over again and maxing out Phantom Blade. Though my point still stands: his kit is really outdated. All these buffs on skills... they need to separate themselves as passive and while Phantom Blade and Sakuno's blessings are good, just the pure fact that buff his final damage already shows how clunky he actually is. If they ever nerf these two skills, Hayato just dies.
Mihile gives 80att to party members with the new mastery if royal guard is upkept and 10% dmg when charging light is used. It's at least something. Also some of these classed shouldnt have tied or outscored it in solo bossing, but good video overall
Demon Avenger is weird because there’s some boss attacks that you can tank that would have 1 hit you, and then there’s some that wouldn’t have 1 hit, but end up killing you because of the situation in that moment. I think I’ve tanked queens breath, but got insta-killed by von bon’s melee. 😅
Can’t wait to download the whole vid (traveling en route)! Always wanted a 275 warrior and it’s sadly not my favorite branch/archetype. Might just get my DW to 275 haha
I don’t know, funding is pretty important. I probably wouldn’t have made dual blade boss mule if I knew how bad sweet water katara and 4 sec cooldown hat was. But yeah it doesn’t need its own score on it.
Duky could u include class damage celling matrix? Because character like dawn warrior, they are good at the start but fall off hard in terms of damage.
As far as finding the GIFs online, didn't Orange Mushroom's Blog have every origin skill's animation extracted as a gif if you look back at the Awake patch notes? Either way, they look fire
I’m not a god tier gamer with silky hands. DW is perfect for me cuz it’s great at a lot and well rounded. Allows me to focus on the boss and not 100 random skills/buttons
hayato would actually be a 10 in solo bossing if they buffed phantom blade duration or stack fall off. if we could instantly use all energy itd be a 10.5. 😂
Bro, I main blaster lvl 271. I agree that mobbing is ass haha. Do dailies and be content with the few Xp% i get everyday. I AM NOT GRINDING ON BLASTER! Bossing is dope af though.
I would personally watch more if the word 'like' is less used. I don't know if it's just me but it reaaaally bothers the enjoyment i get out of video's. I understand why the word is used but once you pay attention to it the conversations are basicly this 'like like like this is like like like you know like like but like i think like'
Ok, hear me out. Adele best class. Amazing mobility, can hover, can go brainless with an auto with large-hitbox-Cleave, Can min/max if more damage needed, cooldowns are ezpz.
Can’t wait to download the whole vid (traveling en route)! Always wanted a 275 warrior and it’s sadly not my favorite branch/archetype. Might just get my DW to 275 haha
I skipped the hayato portion so fast i knew we arent getting a realistic unbiased rating hayato portion is from 3:36:10 to 4:12:15 so yall can skip it too 😂😂😂😂
this is a CRAZY violation
😂😂thank you
yes some major glazing. putting 260+ at a 9 OMEGALUL and the party bossing at 8.. and he says BaM's get glazed.. sheesh.
It's content like this that helps me get back into(and stay in) MS
Exactly but that is the opposite of what i need lol
great video!! can't wait to watch the rest of the classes :D
Baddie list:
1. Blaster (best fanart imo)
2. Adele
3. Aran (shout out that one guy on max's blog)
4. Female Paladin (could be 1 lowkey)
5. Female DrK
6. Female Demon Slayer
7. Female Hayato
8. Alpha and Beta (package deal, also they come with their sword souls but good luck doing the deed with a soul manifestation)
9. Female Hero
10. Dawn Warrior
11. Female DA (?) (rated low since they don't have a canon portrait even from their origin)
12. Mihile (will parry all of your attempts at intimacy)
Bro the Kaiser disrespect is real
280 Mihile main here. Mihile is one of the best solo bossers in the game cause of it's survivability and damage uptime. In party it has tons of utility for survival for party which blocks a lot of attacks, so it doesn't add damage but it can make bossing a lot easier. Damage and burst are average, and for a class which high uptime on damage, it means we can dish out above average damage since we don't spend time running away from bosses like other classes. Mobbing is amazing because we have a summon and low CD aoe skills, we can full map clear and not even move.
correction: mihile gives each party member 5% final damage
Good for boss mules? DS main, but just mega burned mihile to 150 and actually enjoyed playing
@@kennysmith8492 kinda weak for a boss mule you dont need the uptime at those levels
Best solo mean nothing when endgame you need to be with party all them time. If you can solo Nkalos then you better be with party and play CKalos instead.
Soloing boss end at darknell and most endgame player can 1 or 2 burst that boss.
For real tho, who needs BoD when u got bishop and Mihile covering ur ass
@@miraichan5292 "soloing boss ends at darknell" no it does not......... Regardless of what you're saying, Mihile still does well in party. Mihile's damage is average despite people thinking the damage is bad. If there is a gap between mihile's damage and another class, that gap lessens because the other class has to keep dodging attacks and boss mechanics, while mihile can guard attacks and boss mechanics, and keep attacking the boss while the other class cannot. Mihile's damage is not condensed but rather it is spread throughout the entire boss fight. Mihile also gives party members 5% Final damage each, while having utility that can block attacks and give HP Shields to party members to save them from dying.. you just dont know that mihile is good.. it's not OP or Amazing.. but it's just good. Mihile does totally fine in party. it's just not an OP class. Also idk why you're saying solo ends at darknell, i just soloed Hseren as mihile and im planning to solo NKalos, of course i will join Ckalos party when I can, and when I do, i will be just fine. Yall people like to think that mihile does no damage. you just dont know lol.
i knew there was a reason i randomly had to wake up and check my phone
For the "Learning Curve" discussion point, I think there needs to be a standard definition for fair comparison...
For example
1) Learning required for average damage, or
2) Amount of learning required to reach #% of absolute damage potential, or
3) Gap between skill floor and skill ceiling (dividing this by 2 can indicate example definition 1)
And even in doing so, there needs to be more factors considered like: number of different concepts to learn, amount of animation cancelling needed on average, difficulty of button weaving and sequencing, amount of micromanagement required, and impact of min-maxing.
Gotta love Blaster becoming a "Do It For Her" board, almost makes me want to go back to it (Just almost, leveling is paaaaaaaaain)
I was one of the guy who picked up Hayato not too long ago, picked him up and raised him w/o Hyperburning lv 220. Said he was clunky, pointed out the flaws in Hayato, said I was gonna quit on him. He is now Lv 253. I'm gonna get him to 260 and probably even higher. I just sort of ended up liking him after trying him out over and over again and maxing out Phantom Blade. Though my point still stands: his kit is really outdated. All these buffs on skills... they need to separate themselves as passive and while Phantom Blade and Sakuno's blessings are good, just the pure fact that buff his final damage already shows how clunky he actually is. If they ever nerf these two skills, Hayato just dies.
Mihile gives 80att to party members with the new mastery if royal guard is upkept and 10% dmg when charging light is used. It's at least something. Also some of these classed shouldnt have tied or outscored it in solo bossing, but good video overall
2:19:48 always kills me with the Blaster fan art hahaha. WHY that class over all the others I can't even... had me dying man...
As a new player burning DrK i’m going to kms
Demon Avenger is weird because there’s some boss attacks that you can tank that would have 1 hit you, and then there’s some that wouldn’t have 1 hit, but end up killing you because of the situation in that moment.
I think I’ve tanked queens breath, but got insta-killed by von bon’s melee. 😅
Can’t wait to download the whole vid (traveling en route)! Always wanted a 275 warrior and it’s sadly not my favorite branch/archetype. Might just get my DW to 275 haha
I don’t know, funding is pretty important. I probably wouldn’t have made dual blade boss mule if I knew how bad sweet water katara and 4 sec cooldown hat was. But yeah it doesn’t need its own score on it.
It depends what kind of bossing mule you want. DB is an OP nLomien bossing mule.
Needed this for listening material for the rest of work.
This video did NOT need to be 4 hours long
The gifs on the right actually did help me pay attention lol, stats & numbers bore me even though i know they're important to know 😅
as an adele main that first few comments on adele is so true…
Get me thief . Just got NL main video. We need tier list for thieves next
1:34:15 - first thought - “that’s accurate. It’s an 8 when he’s piloting it. 10 for everyone else tho”.
Duky could u include class damage celling matrix? Because character like dawn warrior, they are good at the start but fall off hard in terms of damage.
As far as finding the GIFs online, didn't Orange Mushroom's Blog have every origin skill's animation extracted as a gif if you look back at the Awake patch notes? Either way, they look fire
Me crying playing my ftp Kaiser 😭
I just got to work and duky is already yapping at me 😭🙏
Pls for the love of god do Mages analysis next :D
Adele just needs a 200% Final Damage buff on all skills
great content. im listening to this while playing my yawn warrior
Bro the gifs looks fire!
Super enjoyable! Please make a bowman/dex please!!!
personally i put kaiser at SS and DS at F but rest is good
These long videos are a godsend bro! I enjoy your content while I'm grinding!
I’m not a god tier gamer with silky hands. DW is perfect for me cuz it’s great at a lot and well rounded. Allows me to focus on the boss and not 100 random skills/buttons
When I saw the Dark Knight's stats, I got so frustrated. It's my first character; should I be worried about this?
nah its allg
hayato would actually be a 10 in solo bossing if they buffed phantom blade duration or stack fall off. if we could instantly use all energy itd be a 10.5. 😂
Wanna see Thief and Mage next, Archers and Pirates can get fucked
cant wait to see dual blade review, then cry because its so underwhelming :')
what makes a class enjoyable or boring is very subjective and should not factor into how good a class is
thief next
Hi Duky, appreciate your videos. Can you do Mages Next?
thumbs up for the gifs
Bro, I main blaster lvl 271. I agree that mobbing is ass haha. Do dailies and be content with the few Xp% i get everyday. I AM NOT GRINDING ON BLASTER! Bossing is dope af though.
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1:36:35 If you stop streaming will you at least make videos with phil, homeguy is kind of the goat
Warm regards
Phil in and GigaTaco out. W
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Terry makes Dark Knight a 10/10 class. so i hope you change ur DK rating
BLASTER FTW. btw duky do you know like the new nightlord hexa prio that you would go on pooperdogg? Night lord hexa is confusing
prob depends on what ur doing, like marks is prob better for training early, but best to check the discord
MISSING GIGATACO5
3:35:42 mace is better, you can anvil it to the ds job scepters :)
I would personally watch more if the word 'like' is less used. I don't know if it's just me but it reaaaally bothers the enjoyment i get out of video's. I understand why the word is used but once you pay attention to it the conversations are basicly this 'like like like this is like like like you know like like but like i think like'
Yapanese
you would not believe how many times I edit out certain filler words in higher production vids...
Can you be any more 🤓☝️
Damn yea, Dawn Warrior. Crayon-party
Ok, hear me out. Adele best class. Amazing mobility, can hover, can go brainless with an auto with large-hitbox-Cleave, Can min/max if more damage needed, cooldowns are ezpz.
Check BA next time u do a 20+mins boss, cleave doing less than 10% of all dmg is a joke 😂
This vid sold me on DrK
W Analysis, DS on Top :)
type 1 for Dragon Knight > Dark Knight 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
what was that DS map... :o
Meh I love all warriors class but my top ten hero,pally,Drk,Aran,Adele,demon slayer,dawn warroir,Milka,zero,blaster.
Four and a half hours??? Brother this isn't war and peace
Do we get the Google excel link?
nahh that kaiser one is FOULLLLL
Didnt watch, but im sure the view on Dark Knight is only positive things!
4:28:28 pain and bliss
what is the best mage bossing mule with low union?
prob lynn
@@Duky i from msea , no have lynn xD
Kaiser is THAT bad? :(
tierlist of the easiest class?
Thief when 👀👀👀👀👀👀
do mages!
W in chat for this vid.
MAGES PLEASE!!!
"People don't read their abilities." Bro most of the tooltip translations are fuckin gibberish; what good is reading gonna do them?
Honestly kind of a based take. Riot games tooltips when.
Xenon is best archer
I play DW because I have 0 hands .
We all know Pally is the best.
Kaiser beat NW in a 1v1, I think it's SSS tier. Unironically.
Pog I only play warrior
W Vid
W tiktok brain template
Pleasssse don’t do thief all your going to do is absolutely shit on phantom 😢
For Next content thief please👍🏻 I’m main Hayato too😉
100% biased lmao jk
ah yes, wap fuel
W Warriors r the best frfr
Thief & Archers, fk mages (we all know bishop #1, other mages sucks)
Thief
Kaiser from 1-200 sucks ass. 200-250 is fine because 5th job skills make mobbing so much more palatable.
When it comes to the BEST and WORST Thieves, please be kind to DBs 🥲
Can’t wait to download the whole vid (traveling en route)! Always wanted a 275 warrior and it’s sadly not my favorite branch/archetype. Might just get my DW to 275 haha
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