My family had this same tv from new. Wish I could have had the foresight to take it when me when I moved out. Such an amazing TV, I recall the best part was the color accuracy
I have the 32 inch version on this tv. Also got mine free on Craigslist. Someone before me was supposed to pick it up but never came, so the seller let me have it. Two hour drive, and I had to rent a pick up, but it was worth it! Amazing tv.
Right now my favorite is the 37xbr200. It's a little sharper than the xbr48 and the tube has almost no hours on it. My xbr48 is a little worn out. What's your favorite?
I remember the wega I used to own could do 480p, which was such a great bonus since I had an xbox back in the day and played SoulCalibur, capvsnk quite a bit.
Thank you so much for producing and posting this! It helped justify my desire to get one that had just popped up in my city about a week after I found this video. :D. It's become my favorite consumer CRT.
Hey Riggel, I have this same set and I love it, too. One thing I'm noticing about it is that the color temperatures can change when I enter different screens/menus. I have color correction turned off in the menu, but it still does this kind of subtle temperature change depending on what new material appears on screen. It'll go from cool to warm then back to cool, and kinda fluctuate in slowmo. It almost seems like a 'feature' and characteristic of this tube, but am not totally sure. Does yours do this as well or might you know what's going on there? Thanks!
It's okay but after spending more time with it I actually prefer the flatscreens. I have seen 2 more pop up since I got this one should they are out there.
Incrível pensei que eu era o único com essa TV aqui no Brasil. É a melhor Trinitron que já vi. Para jogos antigos é a melhor TV que irá encontrar, inclusive superior até alguns PVM.
@@AbsintheFleury Thanks! It is great for 240p content. But I have spent more time with it and I think I am going to pass it on to someone else. The colors do not pop as much with 480i content and I watch a lot of movies. Also, the curved glass makes the screen look smaller than it's 35 inches to me and, personally, I prefer a 40 inch screen.
Hey I finally nabbed one of these, the 32XBR48 a week ago at a thrift store. However the tube appears to have high hours, I had to lower the picture and brightness just as yours had to get the picture to look good. good thing about Sony Trinitrons is that even with high hours they still look sharper than most of other TV brands. And the colors look great.
It's interesting that you say that. I've heard that the older curved glass sonys are dimmer-even with low hours but I only had the one so I can't really say. Mine was dim and did have a "tired" look to it. I sold mine for $100 about a month ago. You have the original xbr correct? The one with native rgb? How does the 48 compare to that one?
@@riggel8804 I haven’t heard about curve trinitrons being dimmer than flat ones, I think they get plenty bright. Yes I have the original XBR and it’s better than my XBR48 because has very low hours, the scanlines are sharp throughout and it can get bright while keeping its sharpness. both sets have great color, It’s hard to say which has more TV lines though. and I really need to do another video on my 25XBR since I have a better phone camera now.
Hey bro, saw your post on reddit, you own my grail. I hope to come across one of these bad boys soon. Right now I have a jvc av-32320 which is a curved screen with component. Not a d-series but it still kicks the shit out of my flat Trinitron's.
What I like about the flat screen Sonys, besides the component inputs, is the dark shade of the glass. I can't even stand the way the lighter glass screens look it's like why did they not bother to darken it? Because they were already making dark glass on computer monitors by then. But it took them to the 2000's to realize that it also looks good on TVs I guess. It would be cool if there were something like the anti-glare coating that Sony put on the PVMs but darker that you could put on lighter colored screen to help that. Because I'd probably prefer the curved glass of a 90's Sony but the tone of the glass is why I ultimately like my 2000's Sony more.
It's funny. I never even noticed the glass color but you are the second person to mention it to me this week. I heard the Mitsubishi glass is a blue color.
That's the monitor to get in my opinion, I'm an s-video/composite only on my KV-27V42, it has a monitor out for capturing and recording, even streaming
Thanks. I was keeping was keeping an eye out for about a year until I found one. I've seen a couple pop up since I got it. Keep an eye out and be willing to drive. I will warn you these are really old tvs and there is a chance the tube will be worn out.
Excellent video all around! I’m looking for a 35”-36” set for one of my Mame PC builds. One of these is for sale locally as well as a JVC 36D501 a little further away. I like high tv line Sony aperture grill sets as well. But there’s something about the color on the shadow mask sets that I like equally as well. I’m curious which set you would go after and if you wouldn’t mind explaining why? Thank you!
Personally i would get the xbr. I am not a fan of shadow mask tubes. The xbr48 has an older sony curved tube with a jungle chip that has a softer image compared to the flat screen sonys. The xbr 48 looks more shadowmasky. I have a vid comparing the xbr48 to my d series and some other tubes. One thing to keep in mind is that the xbr48 is really old. It could have a worn out/tired tube.
@@riggel8804 hi I feel bad for asking but can you please measure the base of this TV? I want to build a shelf for this TV but I want the back of it to be sticking out from behind the shelf but I want the base to be fully inside the shelf. I have a 20 inch CRT that is 19 inches deep but the base is only 14 inches deep. I know from online the entire TVs depth is around 27.5 inches but I can’t find how deep the base of the TV goes. So can you please measure how deep the part of the tv that has contact to the surface of the table? If you don’t mind…
@@Caleb-fv5fp yeah. I have the original base for the tv and it had slots where the feet of the tv fit into it. I can just measure the distance between the feet. Fyi this tv has small feet on the bottom
@@riggel8804 what ever has the smallest depth that is in contact to the surface so I can have the rest sticking out the back. Also with that design, I will have easy access to the inputs on the back of the tv! Thanks!
You’re absolutely right about the color and feel it’s exactly like my pvm! It’s an amazing set! I have 18 crt TVs atm that number is always changing and this is the best consumer set by far! I think it’s possible sharper than my 36fv300 and they are side by side and the thing slays the interlace flicker on 480i !!!!!!! I can’t play the Wii on my pvm without getting a headache lol the xbr is masks the flicker amazingly and the colors blow away all 3 of my d series and all my other consumer sets! Mine is also the kv-35xbr48
yeah, I have my xbr200 right next to my xbr48 and bvm1911. All are hooked up to my ps2 and computer (that puts out 480i in desktop) so I can compare the interlace flicker easily. Trinitrons don not have bad interlace flicker as a general rule but the xbr48 is definitely the best I have ever seen in this department. Do you have any experience with Panasonic Taus? Or the Toshiba AF models? I have always wanted to check those out.
Absolutely!! Here’s my current tv list I’m still looking for a larger pvm but this one is doing the job rn my area is barren I’ve made 200+ phone calls and emails in 4 months looking for pvms 😅 the toshiba af series is probably the best aside from Sony they look amazing I have a new sealed toshiba 14af42 and an opened like new barely used one from the same guy there was a 2nds sealed one but it went to a buddy! They have composite in x2 composite out x1 and component and s video in all on a 14” set and the screen and geometry are wonderful! I love them! The toshiba mw-24fpx is also very nice for vhs and dvd sadly since it’s a combo it only have composite in but I’d love to rgb mod it and have an amazing all in one 24” the tube is fantastic! I don’t currently own a Panasonic but I’ve seen them and I’d put them in this order as the top 4 Sony, toshiba, jvc then Panasonic as the top 4 brands for consumer crt TVs I don’t have enough experience with pvms to say what’s best for sure with them based on personal experience I’ve seen Panasonic20” and my 14m2u and the Sony wins by far but the jvc pvms look promising from photos!!! CRT Tv list Sony PVM 14M2U Sony kV-35xbr48 Sony kV-36FV300 Sony KD-32FS170 Sony KV-20TS29 Sony KV-20S21 Sony KV-20FS12 Jvc AV-36D501 Jvc AV-32D305 Jvc AV-27D305 Toshiba 14af42 / opened x1 sealed x1 Toshiba MW24FPX Rca 14F514T Emerson EWF2004 Polaroid TDX-142 Lightning mcqueen tv C1312ATV “bad flyback” Sharp 32” unkown “don’t care enough to look 😂 it’s heavy” magnovox 20” unkown “on loan”
@@kingarthur7255 hell yeah. You're all in like me. Have you posted on redit anywhere? I'd love to check out your stuff. I figured the toshibas were nice, I've noticed that the boys from MLIG have one and so doe Joe from game sack. At this point I'm pretty much done collecting CRTs. I might pick up a really nice one if it is in my city but I've noticed that the free local tvs are starting to dry up. We are lucky we got our TVs before they became scarce.
@@riggel8804 well😅 believe it or not I started 4 months ago before that I hadn’t seen a crt since my family switched to plasm in like 07 or 08 I believe at the time I was interested in Xbox and ps3 and all the nintendo handhelds 4 months ago I plugged my n64 into my modern flat acreen and was appalled lol I got a 32” d series as my first set then my second pickup was 3 white 20” trinitrons like new and 3 toshiba 14af42 2 new one like new all for $50 that was a 4-5 hour round trip tho and I’ve paid for every single one to the others also the pvm 14m2u was $200 I just got it a week ago!! So unfortunately I wasn’t doing this when they were free or cheap or I’d have some amazing pvms lol if I listened to everyone on the groups I’d have stuck with my d series or just a trinitron I wanted to see the differences myself! So I bought a ton of them haha now I have my own opinions of each model I own instead of going solely off the opinions of others! I just sold my 32” d series today to an enthusiast who’s super excited by it because I wasn’t using it and it’s a great set! I prefer the xbr48 for vhs, classic anime and for classic games I use the fv300 with the n64 and a roku for streaming TH-cam and 16:9 content and the pvm for when I just want to have the best picture possible if I had a 20” pvm I’d use it much more! Can’t complain for $200 in the current market tho and it’s in great shape I haven’t made many posts on Reddit I have made a good few on the Facebook group “The CRT collective” it has 16k members on Facebook you should join! It’s a great group !
@@kingarthur7255 damn dude. That's an impressive collection for 4 months. I've been at this since 2014 but I started picking up the consumer crts in 2018. I just got a 1cc on xmen arcade about 2 minutes ago. I'm going to do a playthrough with commentary for my channel next month.
Did you try watching movies on this? I was watching an anime movie which looked ok when there wasn’t much going on, but during fast action scenes I could see a lot of black lines on the outlines of characters and objects like planes, especially if the outlines were in a diagonal orientation they became very noticeable. This all happened on a curved Sony KV-32XBR45, which is similar to the XBR48, but through S-video which is the best it has, no component input. It was too distracting and I tried to like this tv, but I hated that I could see those dark, bold lines during fast movement. I have a 13 inch Sony Trinitron and it looks amazing even during fast scenes, no weird dark lines on the outlines of characters. Did you notice this on your XBR48?
I didn't notice this on my xbr48 however I have seen edge enhancement features on other sony Tvs that will cause the effect you are talking about. On many Wega models the only video mode that has edge enhancement turned off is the "movie"mode.
@@riggel8804 I turned off Velocity Modulation and it significantly reduced the edge enhancement and I set the TV to Pro mode. However, this is for a Wega model, I've gotten rid of the XBR 😅
I just recently picked up the xbr32xbr45 and have similar issues, i had to turn off all extra settings in the t.v. menu to fix the dark lines and had to tinker in the service menu to correct red blue and green lines that were showing at the top. If you can find the service menu, it has average values for each setting in the manual. I haven't gone all the way through with calibrating it or adjusting each value to the average to see the difference but looking forward to experimenting with it. The 32xbr48 is a latter model im assuming because mine was made in '95. A solid t.v. nonetheless but still wish it had component, can't really complain though because it was free;)
I just got a Xbr48 and was experiencing the same thing. To me it resembles Velocity Modulation like on newer Trinitrons but the Xbr48 doesn't have a VM setting. Like Riggel said above you must use the "Movie" preset to disable the VM edge enhancement. This completely fixed the problem for me
Oh yeah dude. You have to go into the user menu and enable it. It might br called component or something. I forget. Just mess around with turning settings on. Probably under video. Let me know how it goes
Question. Do you know if this tv has an anti glare coating on the screen that can be removed? The reason I ask is mine has a scuff on the screen and I’m wondering can it be fixed somehow.
Yo! I recently picked up the Sony kv-35S42. It only has s video composite and honestly it looks great especially with the 36 inch screen. Is this sort of TV just a huge significant upgrade or can I sorta get by with what i got and s video? Any feedback or advice is appreciated, great video
Depends on what you want to do with it. The visual upgrade from s-video to component/rgb is not a big one however many consoles are a lot easier to hook up with component/rgb i.e. the Genesis. If you want to hook up a pc or a MiSTer it's also a lot easier with component.
@@riggel8804 Thanks so much for the reply. Another quick question, as I'm having trouble finding the answer by googling, what is the difference between RGB and Component? Is RGB european manufacutred TVs only? Is one better than the other? Did old Sony PVM models have RGB and not component. Thank you so much!
@@riggel8804 Thank you - Another question for you since I'm struggling with thinking through this due to my lack of knowledge. I actually have an old 24 inch Sanyo (Model DS24425) that DOES have component, I got it when I was a child. I'm honestly new to all the CRT stuff so didn't realize after I already grabbed the Sony Trinitron Sony kv-35S4 that component (480p) is better then S-Video (480i). Would it be worth to just play on the 23 inch Sanyo with component input compared to the s-video on the Trinitron? I've read Sanyo's were a cheaper made brand - i just didnt want to buy the component cables if you had any advice, figured id try you first. Basically, does component make any shittier CRT look better then the max output of the "better" Trinitron? Id hate to give up the screen size but it does seem 480p is a bit better quality. Thank you again!
@@N1twoN12 There is a lot going on here. I don't think either of your tvs will output 480p. They are both standard definition 480i/240p sets and that is a good thing. I have never seen that Sanyo tv but it is interesting. It has a flatscreen, which I prefer, and it has component. Component will not give you a higher resolution. It just cleans up the video signal so the image is sharper with less artifacts. Sometimes tvs with low quality tubes actually look better with composite than component because you get this weird screen door/grid pattern when the image is clean. Those tubes actually look better with a dirtier composite image. However I would gues that that Sanyo has a good tube in it. It probably looks really good with component. I would plug in some cables and check it out. You do not need to buy expensive cables for component they don't suffer from interference like rgb does. All that being I would rather game with s-video on a trinitron than component on a jvc. Trinitrons have a look to them that I love. Most other people seem to prefer the Trinitron look. But you need to decide what you like. Some people don't like a sharp image and prefer to game with rf on a 8 inch shadow mask. Other people, like me, like rgb/componet on a big ass 36 inch trini
I saw other videos from your channel, you are dedicated to an incredible collection, congratulations! I have KV-13TR29, KV-21FS150, KV-36FV310, KV-35XBR48 and PVM-20M2U. This TV is rare in the US, imagine how rare it is here in my country Brazil?! I have it and I consider it the best TV I have, I use it with PC and CRTEMUDRIVER. Image quality is better than on my PVM.
CRTs are funny. Sometimes you get a good one with low hours and it looks great. Sometimes you just get lucky with an excellent tube. For example, I would rather have an excellent fs120 than a poor fv310. A xbr48 in good shape is amazing.
I'm also from Brazil and I have the KV-35XBR48. It's good to know I'm not the only one. By the way, I think you mentioned that your TV had the metalic shield. Did you open to see it? Mine doesn't have it. I wonder why it was removed.
Great overview. I just picked up this set with original stand in RI for 100 bucks, but I think it's seen a lot of use and it'll need some work to get looking good like yours. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my sony KV-32FV310 and Thomson RCA MM36100.
@@riggel8804 You have a 310 as well? Do you prefer it over the XBR48? I'm partial to the RCA MM currently for the size and I like the bubble tube more than the flat wega.
@@agfa1854 I don't have a 310 but I've got a 27fs13 (I think that's the model) that is very similar to a 310 and it's sharper than the xbr48. If you like bubble tubes and a softer image you might like the 48. I have a video where I compare the xbr48 to other consumer tubes.
Haha. Yeah. It probably cost like $2500 back then. Props for appreciating quality at an early age. When I was a kid I remember using rf over composite because I thought it was better. One wire is easier than three right?
@@riggel8804 yeah it was actually 900 bucks lol...i was able to get my dad to get me a 500 dollar sony with the 600 lines resolution and s-video. Before that I used my VCR composite to connect to my RF 20" tv lol My SNES didn't even have a composite cable but I had friends that didn't know what it was so I snagged it from them
@@tv4184 haha yeah I was like your friends back in the day. I remember my friend trying to convince to use composite instead of RF and I thought he was being ridiculous. He thought I was being an idiot. In hindsight I think he was right.
@@riggel8804 yeah i didnt try to convince anyone but i was really into all that home theater stuff and i dont know why. I had charts comparing tv models and monster cables for my connections. it was nutty for an 11 year old to mess around with stuff like that. my dad wasnt even into it as much as i was
@@tv4184 are you still a videophile? What tvs/monitors do you have? I'm relatively new to the scene. I got into it back in 2014 when my work was throwing out some pvms.
This is a tube I was personally seeking for years and never found it. Ended up picking a Panasonic Gaoo (SuperFlat in USA) and rgb-modding it because it didn't have component. I prefer it to my D-series 500, KV-27FV15, KV-27FV100, and KV-32FV300 so I gave those away. Do you like Panasonic?
I just picked up a GAOO (2000, model CT-27FX37CB - has component) and it is really dim without "picture" right up and "brightness" pretty high. The guy I bought it from had the brightness cranked to max and I noticed immediately. Maybe that wasn't good for it I dunno, but compared to a couple Toshiba AF models (14" and 24") I just acquired it is quite dim. I'm wondering if that is just how these TV's are or if this TV has seen better days. Other than that the picture quality seems good.
@@frankyfourfingers1382 I'm no authority and have extremely little experience. With that said, I don't believe a recap will solve the problem. From what I understand, the electron guns are simply worn(wearing) out. If I understand tvs correctly, yes, that's all she wrote.
@@TheMikeyb86 Hey sorry to bug you, but I'm curious as to what level you have the "picture" setting at? It would seem the default setting for "picture" is to have it all the way to max, while the default for everything else is mid-way. If I use default settings the picture is fine, I guess. But if I turn picture down from max at all it gets dark fast. I just find it strange that default for that setting is to have it maxed out. Do you need "picture" to be at max for it not to be dark? ...I won't bother you any more ...lol BTW, Riggel has a couple videos talking about a Panasonic he owns (both the second and third newest videos he's uploaded he talks about it).
@@cesarprado6943 Your welcome. Here is more detail. www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?248996-Sony-WEGA-Trinitron-CRT-TV-service-menu-Tips-Tricks-and-settings-suggestions
I've got one of these, the reds look a little too intense though. Couldn't find anything in the service menu though. Have you tried to make any color adjustments on yours?
I have. That is a common problem called red push. It's googleable. There are 2 values that adjust and they go by different names. R gain. R cut. I forget the rest. It's really difficult to adjust colors properly. Adjusting the red will affect other colors. Typically you use a smpte color bar pattern and blue film to look through bla bla bla. It's hard. Check out crt gaming Reddit. I've seen some shortcuts on there. Good luck.
@@riggel8804 Yup I've been on there and am familiar with calibrating with colors and with the blue gel or turning off Red and Green guns to get a blue only image. I asked because this particular model didn't have those peramiters in the service menu. If they were there I think they're under a different name. Enjoying your vids keep it up!
@@jakehughes5155 oh hey sorry. Yeah I've never tried accessing the colors in the service menu on my xbr48. I just assumed it was the same as the wegas. It's interesting that those options are not available on the xbr48.
As long as the tube is in decent shape it is going to be superior to all the different versions of the d series as far as color and sharpness. The one exception might be a D series with a Panasonic M tube. The XBR48 is one of the best CRTs out there but beware a lot of them are old and tired at this point. It was made in the late 90s.
@@riggel8804 I was planning on picking one up from a local seller and he just told me that someone offered him more for it even tho he seemed committed to me picking it up. I guess some could care less about integrity these days... oh well, thanks for your input tho I always appreciate your vids.
I ended up getting this tube and just started to dig into the service menu. There isn't a way to adjust any red drive or bias in service menu nor pots inside. the red really needs some adjusting might you have any suggestions? thanks!@@riggel8804
Check out my video on "BVM vs PVM vs Wega.." There are links in the description of that video that go into detail of "crtemudriver" what you need is a graphics card that will output 15khrtz like an old ATI and a software program to to do old precise resolutions. You also need to convert the VGA out to something your tv/monitor can handle like a vga to scart cable or vga to component converter. It's complicated.
I don't know. I've never seen a 310 but I have researched them. I did own an fv300 and I've been told it is very similar to the 310. The 300 is significantly sharper than the xbr48 but that's about it. I guess the kv310 is an inch larger too. Woopty doo. The XBR48 has better colors and better geometry. And it's cooler with a better design. I wouldn't trade my xbr48 for a kv310 but then again if I had a 310 I probably wouldn't trade it for an xbr48. I think the xbr48 and the kv310 are the best USA consumer grade crts. I have 3 JVC D-series and they are great but I would rather have an xbr48 or a kv310
The chip that tries to be multiple things at once is the micronas chip. I just sold a Panasonic that used a micronas chip. And it's better than the jungle chip, I even managed to rgb mod it.
@@riggel8804 It has no need for muxing, neither gross switches. It takes care of everything, you just have to input the RGB signal, blank and 5v, then enable it from the memory options in service menu.
Is there any way to prove that it was recapped? Maybe he could open it up and you would see some newer caps in there. I had a 300 before and it was excellent.
@@riggel8804 i should validate that. They may just be saying that to add sales value. The FS320 is pretty cadillac. For 200 if its as perfect as he says, its probably a good deal
You never know. These tvs are all super old. Even if it's been recapped if it's got a worn out tube in it than it's not worth paying for. Calibration means nothing to me. So he went in and messed with some settings woopty woop. A recap would be cool. He might have got it done. If he has a board tech who will recap stuff for him it might be worth talking to the dude just so you can find out who did the recap. I met a guy who does board work in my area and he has resurrected my bvm and my xbr48 A recapped 320 with a vibrant picture and minimal geometry issues is worth 200 imo.
@@riggel8804 yeah I totally agree with you… I have been in a Sony Trinitron Service Menu hundreds of times now and have basically memorized how to dial in lines on a cross hatch grid, so thats all stuff I would just go in and do anyways. Recaps are awesome, but theres a long long list of other basic things to maintain a Trinitron outside of caps, and that tube man. CRT replacements dont really exist these days due to lack of resources and trained people, so if you got a bad CRT, I wouldnt bother going any further. A weak tube is probably even worse because its not feasible to replace one in 2023, its intense surgery basically for a TV. Oh, I did locate an old school TV repair guy that has a shop 10 min from my house and he’s actually confident that my Pani D11E just needs a yoke adjustment to fix the outer vertical line bowing, so gonna take that in and see what he can do.
@@RetrofIex That's cool you got a guy. You might want to try adjusting the yoke yourself first though. It's not hard. Just don't touch the copper wire around the yoke when powered on. I've done that a few times and it gave me a good little zap. Tube replacement imo is easier than doing a recap. I've done a few recaps. Recap is a total pain in the ass and takes a lot of time ordering and re-soldering the parts. Tube swap is pretty easy with smaller tubes. The problem is finding a good/compatible tube. I've always wanted to take one of those HD xbr crts and drop their tube in something like the 320 your looking at.
@@riggel8804 Nice! I watched your videos on those. I'm biased towards Sony but those Toshibas are not bad looking at all. I don't own either but one day I'd really like a xbr48 or a black d series! You've made videos on the best crts haha. Holy grail rare stuff would be like Sony 2950Q or RCA MM32110. Man it's hard to find good crts for sale these days..
@@AwesomesMan yeah ive been amassing a harem of grail crts in hopes if getting them all. Ive been picking them up since 2014 but it really has dried up now. I wanted to wait to do a comparison video until I had all the Grail crts but it looks like that is not gonna happen so did a comparison video of what I have. Video will post in a week or so....I really wanted one of those rca proscans that are multiformat and 36 inches :(
A lot of the late 90s and early 2000 PVMs and BVMs have component inputs. No other North American consumer Trinitron has component inputs that I know of. The very first XBR has RGB inputs. Maybe the "profeal" line has RGB but I don't know.
Hi! For consumer grade, only this specific line has component inputs: the Sony KV-32XBR48, the KV-35XBR48, and the KV-35XBR88. The XBR88 is just the XBR48 but it's got a stand screwed into the TV itself, making them one unit.
I just brought this same TV home, but I am noticing that any thing on screen that should be black or very dark is looking really green-ish. I had to lower my brightness almost all the way down just to make the green go away (kinda, not completely) but now the screen is super dark. Really hoping there is a fix for this :(
@@riggel8804 I'm certainly not competent enough to open it myself, so I think I'll have to take it to a tech. This thing is massive and heavy though so that's a whole other can of worms
@@riggel8804 Also, what video cable inputs are you using? My picture is bit more blurry, and I'm not really seeing the scan lines on mine. Maybe because I'm just using plain old composite?
@@riggel8804 LOL! Yeah, I figured it out. Was confused since the title made it sound like it had both and I found it by looking to see what other XBRs might’ve had RGB. ;) My KV-30XBR910 does not but my KDL-52XBR2 does.
@@emmettturner9452 yeah there is a weird stigma here in america where people think component is useless and rgb is the greatest invention since fire. The title is a little bit misleading but I'm trying to get the word out in the usa about component video. Where you at? I never heard of those particular models. Is one of them hd?
@@riggel8804 Newnan, Georgia, USA. ;) Both are HD but only the XBR910 is a CRT. I bought it new in 2003 for $2,300 at Circuit City. The 52XBR2 was $5K open box at Best Buy and I totally regret that one. The XBR910, on the other hand, got a lot more “WOW!”s out of people even years after the XBR2 was obsolete. Still have it but I had to give up the XBR2 after a tornado last year. I also have a KV-25XBR in the original box in a storage unit but I have reason to believe it probably doesn’t work. The XBR910 is the precursor to the XBR960. Exact same tube. Only other difference is the Memory Stick slot requires an adapter for MSDuo, they added CableCARD, and they switched from DVI to HDMI. Oh: And they dropped the 30” option (both are available in 34”). Yeah, I always point out that YPbPr has more bandwidth for HD with fewer channels. That’s because it doesn’t waste an entire channel on sync that happens between visible lines anyway, it dedicates an entire channel to shared brightness rather than transmitting the duplicate detail on every channel, it only needs to transmit the difference for Blue and Red detail, and Green detail can be algorithmically restored without loss. RGBS is just wasteful and ends up becoming bandwidth-limited at lower resolutions for the same cables. It’s the reason you can use the same cables for 1080p on a PlayStation 3 when set to YPbPr but only 480i in RGsB.
@@riggel8804 Other than the KV-25XBR and the KDL-52XBR2, I’ve only seen a few RGBS-capable displays in the wild. One was an NEC plasma display used for public signage before it ended up at Goodwill and another was 1999/2000 Samsung LCD monitor used in a PlayStation 2 kiosk. Mine was deeply gouged so I ordered the TV version off eBay to do a panel swap. Ironically, the Kiosk was using official S-Video cables but the Samsung’s manual clearly shows that the VGA port supports RGBHV, RGBS, and RGsB. Since then I found that some computer monitors support RGsB despite not having it in the documentation.
@@SamsungS-or1qf The tv line thing is hard to do if the monitor isn't 20 inches. I would say it looks about as sharp as a 450 or 500 line 20 incher but with thicker scanlines since it's a big ass tube.
@@riggel8804 reason i'm asking is that the last of the Wega's had like 1200 lines resolution, so close to PVM picture, although i might be wrong about that.
curved in 2 planes is relativel common with component but the Sony single plane curve is rare. This is the only Sony Consumer tv I know of with component and curved glass. A lot of the curve pro models have component though.
Just found one after 3+ years of searching, was 2hrs away but was totay worth it. Could not be happierthe geometry is great, tiny convergence near the top and focus blurring a bit around the edges. Any way to sharpen the outer edges and correct the convergence? Anyone know what tye original stand for this is?
I got a video on how to service crts. There is a section in there about corner stuff. I would try using magnets on the tube as well as making some convergence strips and stickining them under the yoke. You can also try monkeying around in the service menu or turning the focus pot. Beware if your not careful you could fuk it up. Just pay attention and you should be fine. Don't expect to improve it too much though. tube is old dude.
I have observed that xbr crts are more well known for their high end hd crts i.e. xbr450 however there are a number of xbr CRTs that are sd i.e. xbr48, xbr200, xbr250.
It would be bad form to RGB mod this TV. It is probably the only curved glass sony with component inputs. Use the component inputs. I have a video comparing rgb to component video you might be interested in. I also have another video on how to transcode rgb into component video.
Since this video I have changed my mind. I prefer the flatscreens. I think they have better colors for 480i and the screen seems larger when it's flat.
I believe that one lacks component inputs. So no RGB unless you hardware mod it. Other than that it's probably good. It's really old so cross your fingers. Your going to need some good luck.
@@msamiullah001 Colors are more vivid, black is very deep, scanlines are very defined, the image is very clean and sharp, it's a good fight between the two, but I prefer XBR. A very evident thing is also the almost perfect geometry, it resembles a PVM, the tube has a metallic shield preventing interferences.
Yeah. I was pretty stoked when I pulled up and saw it still sitting on the curb. Dude said someone said he was going to pick it up but never showed up.
You don't get larger gaps between scanlines from increasing the horizontal res or screen size. It's related to bloom. Higher end TVs have superior voltage regulation and bloom less. Cheaper sets bloom more as you increase brightness and / or contrast causing the image to change size which reduces the visible gaps between lines. You can vary the size of the gaps yourself by increasing contrast until you see light bleed between lines. Or reduce contrast and watch the gaps grow... Also, those old Trinitrons are not the curved ones that have better geometry. All Trinitron tubes are flat (although the later models are slightly flatter). The curved tubes people talk about are those bubble shape slot mask tubes used by most other brands. They look far better than Trinitron aperture grille tubes for old games.
Some of what you're saying makes sense but some of it is wrong. Regarding scanlines: If you look at two crts that are the same model i.e. kvxxfv13, lets say one is a 27 inch and the other is 36 inch. The 36 inch is going to have thicker scanlines. I know from experience. Plus it makes sense if you think about it. Everything is bigger on the 36, including the scanlines. The bubble tubes you are talking about are curved in two planes and are spherical in shape. The curved glass sony in this video is curved in one plane and is cylindrical in shape. But it is still a curved glass crt. Curved glass Sonys don't suffer from geometry issues in the same way flat screen Sony crts do. Again, I speak from experience I've owned 4 curved Sony's, 4 bubble tubes and a fuck load of flat screen crts.
Love your breakdown of the XBR. Yes, it is a rare find but glad you're enjoying it to the fullest and making great use of it. Cheers!
One man's trash is another man's treasure. Thanks again for giving me the TV.
My family had this same tv from new. Wish I could have had the foresight to take it when me when I moved out. Such an amazing TV, I recall the best part was the color accuracy
Probably my favorite consumer trinitron
I have the 32 inch version on this tv. Also got mine free on Craigslist. Someone before me was supposed to pick it up but never came, so the seller let me have it. Two hour drive, and I had to rent a pick up, but it was worth it! Amazing tv.
Beautiful XBR Trinitron TV, has great looking scanlines. I have a few Sony Trinitron CRT’s myself. What’s your favourite CRT?
Right now my favorite is the 37xbr200. It's a little sharper than the xbr48 and the tube has almost no hours on it. My xbr48 is a little worn out. What's your favorite?
@@riggel8804 I’d probably have to go with my 25XBR because it’s so retro. But I highly regard my PVM-2950q.
I remember the wega I used to own could do 480p, which was such a great bonus since I had an xbox back in the day and played SoulCalibur, capvsnk quite a bit.
Thank you so much for producing and posting this! It helped justify my desire to get one that had just popped up in my city about a week after I found this video. :D. It's become my favorite consumer CRT.
That things amazing, i just have a 20" consumer silver toshiba but it does the trick for me
Hey Riggel, I have this same set and I love it, too. One thing I'm noticing about it is that the color temperatures can change when I enter different screens/menus. I have color correction turned off in the menu, but it still does this kind of subtle temperature change depending on what new material appears on screen. It'll go from cool to warm then back to cool, and kinda fluctuate in slowmo. It almost seems like a 'feature' and characteristic of this tube, but am not totally sure. Does yours do this as well or might you know what's going on there? Thanks!
I'll be on the lookout for this. I like the curved screen more than the flat screen
It's okay but after spending more time with it I actually prefer the flatscreens. I have seen 2 more pop up since I got this one should they are out there.
@@riggel8804 I just got a kv27fv300. The picture is very good. Better than my fs100
I'll about to get one , here in Brazil , by the way , great video man :D
Hell yea man. Get you some scanlines. Love the Brazil gaming scene.
Incrível pensei que eu era o único com essa TV aqui no Brasil. É a melhor Trinitron que já vi. Para jogos antigos é a melhor TV que irá encontrar, inclusive superior até alguns PVM.
@@AbsintheFleury Thanks! It is great for 240p content. But I have spent more time with it and I think I am going to pass it on to someone else. The colors do not pop as much with 480i content and I watch a lot of movies. Also, the curved glass makes the screen look smaller than it's 35 inches to me and, personally, I prefer a 40 inch screen.
Hey I finally nabbed one of these, the 32XBR48 a week ago at a thrift store. However the tube appears to have high hours, I had to lower the picture and brightness just as yours had to get the picture to look good. good thing about Sony Trinitrons is that even with high hours they still look sharper than most of other TV brands. And the colors look great.
It's interesting that you say that. I've heard that the older curved glass sonys are dimmer-even with low hours but I only had the one so I can't really say. Mine was dim and did have a "tired" look to it. I sold mine for $100 about a month ago. You have the original xbr correct? The one with native rgb? How does the 48 compare to that one?
@@riggel8804 I haven’t heard about curve trinitrons being dimmer than flat ones, I think they get plenty bright. Yes I have the original XBR and it’s better than my XBR48 because has very low hours, the scanlines are sharp throughout and it can get bright while keeping its sharpness. both sets have great color, It’s hard to say which has more TV lines though. and I really need to do another video on my 25XBR since I have a better phone camera now.
Hey bro, saw your post on reddit, you own my grail. I hope to come across one of these bad boys soon. Right now I have a jvc av-32320 which is a curved screen with component. Not a d-series but it still kicks the shit out of my flat Trinitron's.
Keep looking. You will find something. This xbr looks More like a flat sony than a D-series.
What I like about the flat screen Sonys, besides the component inputs, is the dark shade of the glass. I can't even stand the way the lighter glass screens look it's like why did they not bother to darken it? Because they were already making dark glass on computer monitors by then. But it took them to the 2000's to realize that it also looks good on TVs I guess. It would be cool if there were something like the anti-glare coating that Sony put on the PVMs but darker that you could put on lighter colored screen to help that. Because I'd probably prefer the curved glass of a 90's Sony but the tone of the glass is why I ultimately like my 2000's Sony more.
It's funny. I never even noticed the glass color but you are the second person to mention it to me this week. I heard the Mitsubishi glass is a blue color.
That's the monitor to get in my opinion, I'm an s-video/composite only on my KV-27V42, it has a monitor out for capturing and recording, even streaming
damn I want one of these but have never seen one. congrats
Thanks. I was keeping was keeping an eye out for about a year until I found one. I've seen a couple pop up since I got it. Keep an eye out and be willing to drive. I will warn you these are really old tvs and there is a chance the tube will be worn out.
Excellent video all around! I’m looking for a 35”-36” set for one of my Mame PC builds. One of these is for sale locally as well as a JVC 36D501 a little further away. I like high tv line Sony aperture grill sets as well. But there’s something about the color on the shadow mask sets that I like equally as well. I’m curious which set you would go after and if you wouldn’t mind explaining why? Thank you!
Personally i would get the xbr. I am not a fan of shadow mask tubes. The xbr48 has an older sony curved tube with a jungle chip that has a softer image compared to the flat screen sonys. The xbr 48 looks more shadowmasky. I have a vid comparing the xbr48 to my d series and some other tubes.
One thing to keep in mind is that the xbr48 is really old. It could have a worn out/tired tube.
No conocia este modelo de tv sony. Pero tiene una calidad fantastica!.
a la altura de los pvm.
Gracias. Es una televisión rara. Me siento afortunado de tenerlo.
I would die for that tv
Haha thanks.
@@riggel8804 hi I feel bad for asking but can you please measure the base of this TV? I want to build a shelf for this TV but I want the back of it to be sticking out from behind the shelf but I want the base to be fully inside the shelf. I have a 20 inch CRT that is 19 inches deep but the base is only 14 inches deep. I know from online the entire TVs depth is around 27.5 inches but I can’t find how deep the base of the TV goes. So can you please measure how deep the part of the tv that has contact to the surface of the table? If you don’t mind…
@@Caleb-fv5fp yeah. I have the original base for the tv and it had slots where the feet of the tv fit into it. I can just measure the distance between the feet. Fyi this tv has small feet on the bottom
@@riggel8804 what ever has the smallest depth that is in contact to the surface so I can have the rest sticking out the back. Also with that design, I will have easy access to the inputs on the back of the tv! Thanks!
@@riggel8804 also my family is coming over for Christmas and I want to move this setup in the living room and watch Christmas movies on vhs!
You’re absolutely right about the color and feel it’s exactly like my pvm! It’s an amazing set! I have 18 crt TVs atm that number is always changing and this is the best consumer set by far! I think it’s possible sharper than my 36fv300 and they are side by side and the thing slays the interlace flicker on 480i !!!!!!! I can’t play the Wii on my pvm without getting a headache lol the xbr is masks the flicker amazingly and the colors blow away all 3 of my d series and all my other consumer sets! Mine is also the kv-35xbr48
yeah, I have my xbr200 right next to my xbr48 and bvm1911. All are hooked up to my ps2 and computer (that puts out 480i in desktop) so I can compare the interlace flicker easily. Trinitrons don not have bad interlace flicker as a general rule but the xbr48 is definitely the best I have ever seen in this department. Do you have any experience with Panasonic Taus? Or the Toshiba AF models? I have always wanted to check those out.
Absolutely!! Here’s my current tv list I’m still looking for a larger pvm but this one is doing the job rn my area is barren I’ve made 200+ phone calls and emails in 4 months looking for pvms 😅 the toshiba af series is probably the best aside from Sony they look amazing I have a new sealed toshiba 14af42 and an opened like new barely used one from the same guy there was a 2nds sealed one but it went to a buddy! They have composite in x2 composite out x1 and component and s video in all on a 14” set and the screen and geometry are wonderful! I love them! The toshiba mw-24fpx is also very nice for vhs and dvd sadly since it’s a combo it only have composite in but I’d love to rgb mod it and have an amazing all in one 24” the tube is fantastic! I don’t currently own a Panasonic but I’ve seen them and I’d put them in this order as the top 4 Sony, toshiba, jvc then Panasonic as the top 4 brands for consumer crt TVs I don’t have enough experience with pvms to say what’s best for sure with them based on personal experience I’ve seen Panasonic20” and my
14m2u and the Sony wins by far but the jvc pvms look promising from photos!!!
CRT Tv list
Sony PVM 14M2U
Sony kV-35xbr48
Sony kV-36FV300
Sony KD-32FS170
Sony KV-20TS29
Sony KV-20S21
Sony KV-20FS12
Jvc AV-36D501
Jvc AV-32D305
Jvc AV-27D305
Toshiba 14af42 / opened x1 sealed x1
Toshiba MW24FPX
Rca 14F514T
Emerson EWF2004
Polaroid TDX-142
Lightning mcqueen tv C1312ATV “bad flyback”
Sharp 32” unkown “don’t care enough to look 😂 it’s heavy”
magnovox 20” unkown “on loan”
@@kingarthur7255 hell yeah. You're all in like me. Have you posted on redit anywhere? I'd love to check out your stuff.
I figured the toshibas were nice, I've noticed that the boys from MLIG have one and so doe Joe from game sack.
At this point I'm pretty much done collecting CRTs. I might pick up a really nice one if it is in my city but I've noticed that the free local tvs are starting to dry up. We are lucky we got our TVs before they became scarce.
@@riggel8804 well😅 believe it or not I started 4 months ago before that I hadn’t seen a crt since my family switched to plasm in like 07 or 08 I believe at the time I was interested in Xbox and ps3 and all the nintendo handhelds 4 months ago I plugged my n64 into my modern flat acreen and was appalled lol I got a 32” d series as my first set then my second pickup was 3 white 20” trinitrons like new and 3 toshiba 14af42 2 new one like new all for $50 that was a 4-5 hour round trip tho and I’ve paid for every single one to the others also the pvm 14m2u was $200 I just got it a week ago!! So unfortunately I wasn’t doing this when they were free or cheap or I’d have some amazing pvms lol if I listened to everyone on the groups I’d have stuck with my d series or just a trinitron I wanted to see the differences myself! So I bought a ton of them haha now I have my own opinions of each model I own instead of going solely off the opinions of others! I just sold my 32” d series today to an enthusiast who’s super excited by it because I wasn’t using it and it’s a great set! I prefer the xbr48 for vhs, classic anime and for classic games I use the fv300 with the n64 and a roku for streaming TH-cam and 16:9 content and the pvm for when I just want to have the best picture possible if I had a 20” pvm I’d use it much more! Can’t complain for $200 in the current market tho and it’s in great shape I haven’t made many posts on Reddit I have made a good few on the Facebook group “The CRT collective” it has 16k members on Facebook you should join! It’s a great group !
@@kingarthur7255 damn dude. That's an impressive collection for 4 months. I've been at this since 2014 but I started picking up the consumer crts in 2018.
I just got a 1cc on xmen arcade about 2 minutes ago. I'm going to do a playthrough with commentary for my channel next month.
Did you try watching movies on this? I was watching an anime movie which looked ok when there wasn’t much going on, but during fast action scenes I could see a lot of black lines on the outlines of characters and objects like planes, especially if the outlines were in a diagonal orientation they became very noticeable. This all happened on a curved Sony KV-32XBR45, which is similar to the XBR48, but through S-video which is the best it has, no component input. It was too distracting and I tried to like this tv, but I hated that I could see those dark, bold lines during fast movement. I have a 13 inch Sony Trinitron and it looks amazing even during fast scenes, no weird dark lines on the outlines of characters. Did you notice this on your XBR48?
I didn't notice this on my xbr48 however I have seen edge enhancement features on other sony Tvs that will cause the effect you are talking about. On many Wega models the only video mode that has edge enhancement turned off is the "movie"mode.
@@riggel8804 I turned off Velocity Modulation and it significantly reduced the edge enhancement and I set the TV to Pro mode. However, this is for a Wega model, I've gotten rid of the XBR 😅
I just recently picked up the xbr32xbr45 and have similar issues, i had to turn off all extra settings in the t.v. menu to fix the dark lines and had to tinker in the service menu to correct red blue and green lines that were showing at the top. If you can find the service menu, it has average values for each setting in the manual. I haven't gone all the way through with calibrating it or adjusting each value to the average to see the difference but looking forward to experimenting with it. The 32xbr48 is a latter model im assuming because mine was made in '95. A solid t.v. nonetheless but still wish it had component, can't really complain though because it was free;)
I just got a Xbr48 and was experiencing the same thing. To me it resembles Velocity Modulation like on newer Trinitrons but the Xbr48 doesn't have a VM setting. Like Riggel said above you must use the "Movie" preset to disable the VM edge enhancement. This completely fixed the problem for me
I just picked up this TV tonight, but I can't figure out how to access Video 4. The TV/Video option on the remote only goes to Video 3. Any tips?
Oh yeah dude. You have to go into the user menu and enable it. It might br called component or something. I forget. Just mess around with turning settings on. Probably under video. Let me know how it goes
@@riggel8804 Video 4 was set to "skip" in the Video Label section of the menu. First time I've ever experienced that before. Lol
@@MetalliDeth1223 yeah dude that's happened to me before. Glad you got it working and thanks for getting back to me.
Question. Do you know if this tv has an anti glare coating on the screen that can be removed? The reason I ask is mine has a scuff on the screen and I’m wondering can it be fixed somehow.
It doesn't have an anti glare but I've heard good things about people using windshield repair kits on the crt glass. Good luck
Yo! I recently picked up the Sony kv-35S42. It only has s video composite and honestly it looks great especially with the 36 inch screen. Is this sort of TV just a huge significant upgrade or can I sorta get by with what i got and s video? Any feedback or advice is appreciated, great video
Depends on what you want to do with it. The visual upgrade from s-video to component/rgb is not a big one however many consoles are a lot easier to hook up with component/rgb i.e. the Genesis. If you want to hook up a pc or a MiSTer it's also a lot easier with component.
@@riggel8804 Thanks so much for the reply. Another quick question, as I'm having trouble finding the answer by googling, what is the difference between RGB and Component? Is RGB european manufacutred TVs only? Is one better than the other? Did old Sony PVM models have RGB and not component. Thank you so much!
@@N1twoN12 Very little. No. No. Some have RGB only, most have both.
I have a video on my channel comparing RGB to component.
@@riggel8804 Thank you - Another question for you since I'm struggling with thinking through this due to my lack of knowledge. I actually have an old 24 inch Sanyo (Model DS24425) that DOES have component, I got it when I was a child. I'm honestly new to all the CRT stuff so didn't realize after I already grabbed the Sony Trinitron Sony kv-35S4 that component (480p) is better then S-Video (480i). Would it be worth to just play on the 23 inch Sanyo with component input compared to the s-video on the Trinitron? I've read Sanyo's were a cheaper made brand - i just didnt want to buy the component cables if you had any advice, figured id try you first. Basically, does component make any shittier CRT look better then the max output of the "better" Trinitron? Id hate to give up the screen size but it does seem 480p is a bit better quality. Thank you again!
@@N1twoN12 There is a lot going on here. I don't think either of your tvs will output 480p. They are both standard definition 480i/240p sets and that is a good thing. I have never seen that Sanyo tv but it is interesting. It has a flatscreen, which I prefer, and it has component. Component will not give you a higher resolution. It just cleans up the video signal so the image is sharper with less artifacts. Sometimes tvs with low quality tubes actually look better with composite than component because you get this weird screen door/grid pattern when the image is clean. Those tubes actually look better with a dirtier composite image. However I would gues that that Sanyo has a good tube in it. It probably looks really good with component. I would plug in some cables and check it out. You do not need to buy expensive cables for component they don't suffer from interference like rgb does.
All that being I would rather game with s-video on a trinitron than component on a jvc. Trinitrons have a look to them that I love. Most other people seem to prefer the Trinitron look. But you need to decide what you like. Some people don't like a sharp image and prefer to game with rf on a 8 inch shadow mask. Other people, like me, like rgb/componet on a big ass 36 inch trini
I saw other videos from your channel, you are dedicated to an incredible collection, congratulations! I have KV-13TR29, KV-21FS150, KV-36FV310, KV-35XBR48 and PVM-20M2U. This TV is rare in the US, imagine how rare it is here in my country Brazil?! I have it and I consider it the best TV I have, I use it with PC and CRTEMUDRIVER. Image quality is better than on my PVM.
CRTs are funny. Sometimes you get a good one with low hours and it looks great. Sometimes you just get lucky with an excellent tube. For example, I would rather have an excellent fs120 than a poor fv310. A xbr48 in good shape is amazing.
I'm also from Brazil and I have the KV-35XBR48. It's good to know I'm not the only one. By the way, I think you mentioned that your TV had the metalic shield. Did you open to see it? Mine doesn't have it. I wonder why it was removed.
That's very nice indeed
Thanks!
Awesome TV set! Just correct The horizontal linearity on The right side and you have The definitive monitor!
Great overview. I just picked up this set with original stand in RI for 100 bucks, but I think it's seen a lot of use and it'll need some work to get looking good like yours. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my sony KV-32FV310 and Thomson RCA MM36100.
It's got a softer look than the 310.
@@riggel8804 You have a 310 as well? Do you prefer it over the XBR48? I'm partial to the RCA MM currently for the size and I like the bubble tube more than the flat wega.
@@agfa1854 I don't have a 310 but I've got a 27fs13 (I think that's the model) that is very similar to a 310 and it's sharper than the xbr48. If you like bubble tubes and a softer image you might like the 48. I have a video where I compare the xbr48 to other consumer tubes.
I remember wanting the 27" version of this tv when it was relevant back in 95'. But I was only in 5th grade so no way that was going to happen...
Haha. Yeah. It probably cost like $2500 back then. Props for appreciating quality at an early age. When I was a kid I remember using rf over composite because I thought it was better. One wire is easier than three right?
@@riggel8804 yeah it was actually 900 bucks lol...i was able to get my dad to get me a 500 dollar sony with the 600 lines resolution and s-video. Before that I used my VCR composite to connect to my RF 20" tv lol My SNES didn't even have a composite cable but I had friends that didn't know what it was so I snagged it from them
@@tv4184 haha yeah I was like your friends back in the day. I remember my friend trying to convince to use composite instead of RF and I thought he was being ridiculous. He thought I was being an idiot. In hindsight I think he was right.
@@riggel8804 yeah i didnt try to convince anyone but i was really into all that home theater stuff and i dont know why. I had charts comparing tv models and monster cables for my connections. it was nutty for an 11 year old to mess around with stuff like that. my dad wasnt even into it as much as i was
@@tv4184 are you still a videophile? What tvs/monitors do you have? I'm relatively new to the scene. I got into it back in 2014 when my work was throwing out some pvms.
Damn good find!
thanks!
This is a tube I was personally seeking for years and never found it. Ended up picking a Panasonic Gaoo (SuperFlat in USA) and rgb-modding it because it didn't have component. I prefer it to my D-series 500, KV-27FV15, KV-27FV100, and KV-32FV300 so I gave those away. Do you like Panasonic?
I just picked up a GAOO (2000, model CT-27FX37CB - has component) and it is really dim without "picture" right up and "brightness" pretty high. The guy I bought it from had the brightness cranked to max and I noticed immediately. Maybe that wasn't good for it I dunno, but compared to a couple Toshiba AF models (14" and 24") I just acquired it is quite dim. I'm wondering if that is just how these TV's are or if this TV has seen better days. Other than that the picture quality seems good.
@@frankyfourfingers1382 seems like a tired tube. My brightness is set to 30 (out of 63). Sad for you, bro.
@@TheMikeyb86 Forgive my ignorance, but is this something that re-capping or some other repair can fix or is that all she wrote?
@@frankyfourfingers1382 I'm no authority and have extremely little experience. With that said, I don't believe a recap will solve the problem. From what I understand, the electron guns are simply worn(wearing) out. If I understand tvs correctly, yes, that's all she wrote.
@@TheMikeyb86 Hey sorry to bug you, but I'm curious as to what level you have the "picture" setting at? It would seem the default setting for "picture" is to have it all the way to max, while the default for everything else is mid-way. If I use default settings the picture is fine, I guess. But if I turn picture down from max at all it gets dark fast. I just find it strange that default for that setting is to have it maxed out. Do you need "picture" to be at max for it not to be dark? ...I won't bother you any more ...lol
BTW, Riggel has a couple videos talking about a Panasonic he owns (both the second and third newest videos he's uploaded he talks about it).
What a beauty. I know what i'll be looking out for next!
She's a looker.
Do you often sell excess CRTs on online markets like Offerup or FB?
I made an attempt to do that in the past. It was a pain in the ass. Fuck it. I just play games and drink beer now. Let other people chase the money
Beautiful 😍 TV.is there a way to save your changes on the service menu or every time you un plug it everything resets to normal
Yes. You can save changes by pressing mute and then enter. After you press mute the screen will say "write" in the top right in red. Then press enter.
@@riggel8804 thank man I really appreciate i was looking everywhere on how to do that and thats how I found your channel
@@cesarprado6943 Your welcome. Here is more detail.
www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?248996-Sony-WEGA-Trinitron-CRT-TV-service-menu-Tips-Tricks-and-settings-suggestions
@@riggel8804 thanks again man I'll check it out
@@cesarprado6943 ye
This 35" must way a ton, were you able to lift it yourself?
bought 200 lbs. 2 man lift for sure
I've got one of these, the reds look a little too intense though. Couldn't find anything in the service menu though. Have you tried to make any color adjustments on yours?
I have. That is a common problem called red push. It's googleable. There are 2 values that adjust and they go by different names. R gain. R cut. I forget the rest. It's really difficult to adjust colors properly. Adjusting the red will affect other colors. Typically you use a smpte color bar pattern and blue film to look through bla bla bla. It's hard. Check out crt gaming Reddit. I've seen some shortcuts on there. Good luck.
@@riggel8804 Yup I've been on there and am familiar with calibrating with colors and with the blue gel or turning off Red and Green guns to get a blue only image. I asked because this particular model didn't have those peramiters in the service menu. If they were there I think they're under a different name. Enjoying your vids keep it up!
@@jakehughes5155 oh hey sorry. Yeah I've never tried accessing the colors in the service menu on my xbr48. I just assumed it was the same as the wegas. It's interesting that those options are not available on the xbr48.
I have a chance to pick this set up today, how would you compare it vs a D-Series tho?
As long as the tube is in decent shape it is going to be superior to all the different versions of the d series as far as color and sharpness. The one exception might be a D series with a Panasonic M tube. The XBR48 is one of the best CRTs out there but beware a lot of them are old and tired at this point. It was made in the late 90s.
@@riggel8804 I was planning on picking one up from a local seller and he just told me that someone offered him more for it even tho he seemed committed to me picking it up. I guess some could care less about integrity these days... oh well, thanks for your input tho I always appreciate your vids.
@@saltymanos no problem dude. Don't worry about it. If all I had to game on was a d series I would be perfectly happy.
I ended up getting this tube and just started to dig into the service menu. There isn't a way to adjust any red drive or bias in service menu nor pots inside. the red really needs some adjusting might you have any suggestions? thanks!@@riggel8804
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Check out my video on "BVM vs PVM vs Wega.." There are links in the description of that video that go into detail of "crtemudriver" what you need is a graphics card that will output 15khrtz like an old ATI and a software program to to do old precise resolutions. You also need to convert the VGA out to something your tv/monitor can handle like a vga to scart cable or vga to component converter. It's complicated.
A rare Pepe indeed.
would you pick this or a kv310?
I don't know. I've never seen a 310 but I have researched them. I did own an fv300 and I've been told it is very similar to the 310. The 300 is significantly sharper than the xbr48 but that's about it. I guess the kv310 is an inch larger too. Woopty doo. The XBR48 has better colors and better geometry. And it's cooler with a better design. I wouldn't trade my xbr48 for a kv310 but then again if I had a 310 I probably wouldn't trade it for an xbr48.
I think the xbr48 and the kv310 are the best USA consumer grade crts. I have 3 JVC D-series and they are great but I would rather have an xbr48 or a kv310
17:35 i believe the camera is picking up only 240 lines per frame, you'd have to set the shutter speed to 1/30 to see the interlacing
cool thanks
how do you access the menu settings to make adjustments? Pulling up the grid pattern etc..
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The chip that tries to be multiple things at once is the micronas chip. I just sold a Panasonic that used a micronas chip. And it's better than the jungle chip, I even managed to rgb mod it.
What does it do better than a jungle chip?
@@riggel8804 It has no need for muxing, neither gross switches. It takes care of everything, you just have to input the RGB signal, blank and 5v, then enable it from the memory options in service menu.
Can you explain how this is connected to the TV and what hardware you are using (Raspberry Pi ?). Thanks
Watch this video th-cam.com/video/x2qxa7apq4c/w-d-xo.html
It explains it and also has links under"crtemudriver"that go into more detail.
KV27FS320 just popped up locally for $200. Supposedly recapped and calibrated. May go for it.
Is there any way to prove that it was recapped? Maybe he could open it up and you would see some newer caps in there. I had a 300 before and it was excellent.
@@riggel8804 i should validate that. They may just be saying that to add sales value. The FS320 is pretty cadillac. For 200 if its as perfect as he says, its probably a good deal
You never know. These tvs are all super old. Even if it's been recapped if it's got a worn out tube in it than it's not worth paying for. Calibration means nothing to me. So he went in and messed with some settings woopty woop. A recap would be cool. He might have got it done. If he has a board tech who will recap stuff for him it might be worth talking to the dude just so you can find out who did the recap. I met a guy who does board work in my area and he has resurrected my bvm and my xbr48
A recapped 320 with a vibrant picture and minimal geometry issues is worth 200 imo.
@@riggel8804 yeah I totally agree with you… I have been in a Sony Trinitron Service Menu hundreds of times now and have basically memorized how to dial in lines on a cross hatch grid, so thats all stuff I would just go in and do anyways. Recaps are awesome, but theres a long long list of other basic things to maintain a Trinitron outside of caps, and that tube man. CRT replacements dont really exist these days due to lack of resources and trained people, so if you got a bad CRT, I wouldnt bother going any further. A weak tube is probably even worse because its not feasible to replace one in 2023, its intense surgery basically for a TV. Oh, I did locate an old school TV repair guy that has a shop 10 min from my house and he’s actually confident that my Pani D11E just needs a yoke adjustment to fix the outer vertical line bowing, so gonna take that in and see what he can do.
@@RetrofIex That's cool you got a guy. You might want to try adjusting the yoke yourself first though. It's not hard. Just don't touch the copper wire around the yoke when powered on. I've done that a few times and it gave me a good little zap.
Tube replacement imo is easier than doing a recap. I've done a few recaps. Recap is a total pain in the ass and takes a lot of time ordering and re-soldering the parts. Tube swap is pretty easy with smaller tubes. The problem is finding a good/compatible tube. I've always wanted to take one of those HD xbr crts and drop their tube in something like the 320 your looking at.
Which consumer crt is your personal favorite? Would it be the xbr48?
Xbr200 or toshiba af43
@@riggel8804 Nice! I watched your videos on those. I'm biased towards Sony but those Toshibas are not bad looking at all. I don't own either but one day I'd really like a xbr48 or a black d series! You've made videos on the best crts haha. Holy grail rare stuff would be like Sony 2950Q or RCA MM32110. Man it's hard to find good crts for sale these days..
@@AwesomesMan yeah ive been amassing a harem of grail crts in hopes if getting them all. Ive been picking them up since 2014 but it really has dried up now. I wanted to wait to do a comparison video until I had all the Grail crts but it looks like that is not gonna happen so did a comparison video of what I have. Video will post in a week or so....I really wanted one of those rca proscans that are multiformat and 36 inches :(
Kv36xbr450 your thoughts on that set?
I had one. It was terrible for 240p content. Its an hd crt so that means input lag and no scanlines.
What are some other rounded Trinitrons with Component inputs?
A lot of the late 90s and early 2000 PVMs and BVMs have component inputs. No other North American consumer Trinitron has component inputs that I know of. The very first XBR has RGB inputs. Maybe the "profeal" line has RGB but I don't know.
Hi! For consumer grade, only this specific line has component inputs: the Sony KV-32XBR48, the KV-35XBR48, and the KV-35XBR88. The XBR88 is just the XBR48 but it's got a stand screwed into the TV itself, making them one unit.
I just brought this same TV home, but I am noticing that any thing on screen that should be black or very dark is looking really green-ish. I had to lower my brightness almost all the way down just to make the green go away (kinda, not completely) but now the screen is super dark. Really hoping there is a fix for this :(
Sounds like a component has failed. I recommend opening it up and looking for anything obvious. If that fails take it to a technician.
@@riggel8804 I'm certainly not competent enough to open it myself, so I think I'll have to take it to a tech. This thing is massive and heavy though so that's a whole other can of worms
@@riggel8804 Also, what video cable inputs are you using? My picture is bit more blurry, and I'm not really seeing the scan lines on mine. Maybe because I'm just using plain old composite?
@@Tree3D i use the component inputs
Through most of this video I assumed this was one of the Trinitrons with a 34-pin RGB input, like KV-25XBR.
Naa. No native RGB but you can feed it RGB through the component inputs with a transcoder. Looks identical to RGB.
@@riggel8804 LOL! Yeah, I figured it out. Was confused since the title made it sound like it had both and I found it by looking to see what other XBRs might’ve had RGB. ;)
My KV-30XBR910 does not but my KDL-52XBR2 does.
@@emmettturner9452 yeah there is a weird stigma here in america where people think component is useless and rgb is the greatest invention since fire. The title is a little bit misleading but I'm trying to get the word out in the usa about component video.
Where you at? I never heard of those particular models. Is one of them hd?
@@riggel8804 Newnan, Georgia, USA. ;)
Both are HD but only the XBR910 is a CRT. I bought it new in 2003 for $2,300 at Circuit City. The 52XBR2 was $5K open box at Best Buy and I totally regret that one. The XBR910, on the other hand, got a lot more “WOW!”s out of people even years after the XBR2 was obsolete. Still have it but I had to give up the XBR2 after a tornado last year. I also have a KV-25XBR in the original box in a storage unit but I have reason to believe it probably doesn’t work.
The XBR910 is the precursor to the XBR960. Exact same tube. Only other difference is the Memory Stick slot requires an adapter for MSDuo, they added CableCARD, and they switched from DVI to HDMI. Oh: And they dropped the 30” option (both are available in 34”).
Yeah, I always point out that YPbPr has more bandwidth for HD with fewer channels. That’s because it doesn’t waste an entire channel on sync that happens between visible lines anyway, it dedicates an entire channel to shared brightness rather than transmitting the duplicate detail on every channel, it only needs to transmit the difference for Blue and Red detail, and Green detail can be algorithmically restored without loss. RGBS is just wasteful and ends up becoming bandwidth-limited at lower resolutions for the same cables. It’s the reason you can use the same cables for 1080p on a PlayStation 3 when set to YPbPr but only 480i in RGsB.
@@riggel8804 Other than the KV-25XBR and the KDL-52XBR2, I’ve only seen a few RGBS-capable displays in the wild. One was an NEC plasma display used for public signage before it ended up at Goodwill and another was 1999/2000 Samsung LCD monitor used in a PlayStation 2 kiosk. Mine was deeply gouged so I ordered the TV version off eBay to do a panel swap. Ironically, the Kiosk was using official S-Video cables but the Samsung’s manual clearly shows that the VGA port supports RGBHV, RGBS, and RGsB. Since then I found that some computer monitors support RGsB despite not having it in the documentation.
How many lines does this TV have?
all of em
@@riggel8804 😄, looks great!
@@SamsungS-or1qf The tv line thing is hard to do if the monitor isn't 20 inches. I would say it looks about as sharp as a 450 or 500 line 20 incher but with thicker scanlines since it's a big ass tube.
@@riggel8804 reason i'm asking is that the last of the Wega's had like 1200 lines resolution, so close to PVM picture, although i might be wrong about that.
how rare is it to find a curved glass crt with component?
curved in 2 planes is relativel common with component but the Sony single plane curve is rare. This is the only Sony Consumer tv I know of with component and curved glass. A lot of the curve pro models have component though.
Just found one after 3+ years of searching, was 2hrs away but was totay worth it. Could not be happierthe geometry is great, tiny convergence near the top and focus blurring a bit around the edges. Any way to sharpen the outer edges and correct the convergence? Anyone know what tye original stand for this is?
I got a video on how to service crts. There is a section in there about corner stuff. I would try using magnets on the tube as well as making some convergence strips and stickining them under the yoke. You can also try monkeying around in the service menu or turning the focus pot. Beware if your not careful you could fuk it up. Just pay attention and you should be fine. Don't expect to improve it too much though. tube is old dude.
@@riggel8804 what service menu parameters may help with that if any? I don't think I wanna open it up I know I'll make it worse
Where i can buy one?
hello
XBR is for HDCRT made sony ?
I have observed that xbr crts are more well known for their high end hd crts i.e. xbr450 however there are a number of xbr CRTs that are sd i.e. xbr48, xbr200, xbr250.
@Riggel
Can this be RGB modded? Are u planning on modding it?
It would be bad form to RGB mod this TV. It is probably the only curved glass sony with component inputs. Use the component inputs. I have a video comparing rgb to component video you might be interested in. I also have another video on how to transcode rgb into component video.
Curved is the way to go and agree with curved Trinitrons being the best. The bubble on the JVC units makes it look really awful imo
Since this video I have changed my mind. I prefer the flatscreens. I think they have better colors for 480i and the screen seems larger when it's flat.
@@riggel8804 how much lines of resolution this TV has ?
@@leonardocaldasmonteiro1912 i don't know. Slightly less than wega imo
thoughts on sony kv 32xbr15?
I believe that one lacks component inputs. So no RGB unless you hardware mod it. Other than that it's probably good. It's really old so cross your fingers. Your going to need some good luck.
@@riggel8804 oh, thx for the reply
@@raymondmagtanong ye
How are u running retroarch with 240p
Crtemudriver
Does this tv do 480p?
Negatory
would you say better than FV310 ?
No
I have both, and I disagree the XBR is better.
@@AbsintheFleury in what ways, can you elaborate a little
@@msamiullah001 Colors are more vivid, black is very deep, scanlines are very defined, the image is very clean and sharp, it's a good fight between the two, but I prefer XBR. A very evident thing is also the almost perfect geometry, it resembles a PVM, the tube has a metallic shield preventing interferences.
@@AbsintheFleury good to know, I will try to find now :D. Any particular model of XBR you would suggest ?
Just got this tv for 15$ from a local neighbor
Score. How's it look?
Wow really good :D
biiiig balls. 3 hours to drive and hope is there lol
Yeah. I was pretty stoked when I pulled up and saw it still sitting on the curb. Dude said someone said he was going to pick it up but never showed up.
You don't get larger gaps between scanlines from increasing the horizontal res or screen size. It's related to bloom. Higher end TVs have superior voltage regulation and bloom less.
Cheaper sets bloom more as you increase brightness and / or contrast causing the image to change size which reduces the visible gaps between lines.
You can vary the size of the gaps yourself by increasing contrast until you see light bleed between lines. Or reduce contrast and watch the gaps grow...
Also, those old Trinitrons are not the curved ones that have better geometry. All Trinitron tubes are flat (although the later models are slightly flatter). The curved tubes people talk about are those bubble shape slot mask tubes used by most other brands. They look far better than Trinitron aperture grille tubes for old games.
Some of what you're saying makes sense but some of it is wrong.
Regarding scanlines: If you look at two crts that are the same model i.e. kvxxfv13, lets say one is a 27 inch and the other is 36 inch. The 36 inch is going to have thicker scanlines. I know from experience. Plus it makes sense if you think about it. Everything is bigger on the 36, including the scanlines.
The bubble tubes you are talking about are curved in two planes and are spherical in shape. The curved glass sony in this video is curved in one plane and is cylindrical in shape. But it is still a curved glass crt. Curved glass Sonys don't suffer from geometry issues in the same way flat screen Sony crts do. Again, I speak from experience I've owned 4 curved Sony's, 4 bubble tubes and a fuck load of flat screen crts.
Amazing CRT.... wow.
"TH-cams" lol