I know right, I once accidentally grabbed something from the past years before Techmoan was supposed to buy it from eBay. When I returned to the present I found he had instead made a video about something completely different. I still miss that original Techmoan video.
I also have love of the small machines... My favorite 2014 game alien isolation was ported to phone. It runs on s9 845 and up... That level will now be the expectation of arm users. 😊 For that size/form factor. There are some youtube videos of a person playing it on a phone. This is what you are up against🤣 Windows 11 on this old phone is dos box max...😋 (still good) Your videos are great...
This project along with the Renegade Project (supports more modern snapdragon SOCs) is great to see. I have somewhat of an obsession with UMPCs and little laptops. The modern ones from GPD are still just a bit too big. I would like to put something together with a oneplus phone running windows and a little keyboard.
There always seems to be a trend follow up popular small devices with something more powerful and bigger. GPD have just made the new WIN Mini though. They are at least trying to make something smaller again.
Good way to repurpose an old windows phone! Very nifty. I wanted to run windows on my HTC Hero 200 through limbo but due to hardware limitations the farthest I’ll get is probably POSReady 2009…
It turns out Apple was not the first company to transition their operating system to ARM based CPUs. I hope to make a video about the first company to do this well before Apple did.
Thank you a lot ! My android phone is getting kinda old and now i need to replace battery for 3rd time i guess so i was thinking maybe its time to get something new. Now i know what i want !
I wonder how well Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA) runs on this? I would hope someone has produced an ARM-native WSA! Also, I suspect Microsoft efforts to support ARM might have something to do with the large number of Apple Mac users running Bootcamp and Windows on Apple hardware, and the recent move from Apple away from Intel to (ARM based) "Apple silicon".
janus, i have a question for you, i have the lumia 950 runing windows 11 insider, i shoud use the windows 10 for have better performance, o the 2 windows are that slow?
I think Tiny 11 for ARM runs better than both Windows 10 and Windows 11 on this phone. But then a slimmed down versions of Windows 10 might run even better.
Out of interest does excel, word, PowerPoint and teams work on the Lumia? I am also curious to know if the windows 11 version you got would work on a Microsoft Surface RT? I am looking at upgrading my Surface RT to either Windows 10 or 11.
I'm sure Excel and Word will work. Not sure about Teams because of the GPU. I think the RT has a 32 bit CPU so Windows 11 wont work. But there is a way to install Windows 10 ARM on an RT. I'd like to get one and try this.
I would like to run this on my Lenovo P90 Pro with Intel Atom Z3560 CPU and 4GB RAM but I'm not sure how bootloaders work and project Renegade supports only ARM based CPUs and not x86. It is such a waste of hardware potential.
SIM card work, calls and data ok if you install an old version of Windows 10 first and get your network registry key. But no text messages in Windows 11.
There is a proof of concept Linux build for this Lumia. Many things are not supported and I don't know if it would work. But your suggestion is really interesting, thank you.
Ah graphics are same why do you think it would make a difference actually a driver updater if not all the hardware is detected means the lack of drivers
Ah is the same kernel why people think is another os just because of the name 😐 well the ui is more touch optmised but appart from gui there is no diffrence in performance
@@adriancoanda9227 i also have a 950xl with windows 10arm and it feels definitely slower, this phone in this video for some reason feels slightly snappier than mine
@@JanusCycle I did the wrong procedures to put the windows 10 and I need the .hex of the rm-985 (nokia lumia 830) to go back to windows 8 can you help me please
@@lucassilva-ff7yr I don't understand what you are asking? When my Lumia failed to install Windows 11 desktop. I was able to use Microsoft's Windows Device Recovery Tool to get the firmware working back to Windows Phone again. Have you tried this?
Yes it is the thingy is that most phone have uefi and usb boot disabled in firmware so you need a bootloader like edk 2 like a clover for phones tricking the hardware to boot from other media devices
I've got a mint condition LG V35 that every so often I get this urge to install Windows on before realizing that; A) I still enjoy using it as-is and I know I have just enough IT talent to break it without having enough to fix it, and B) according to Project Renegade it's one of the least supported 845 phones for Windows on ARM so the risk posed by "A" isn't going to be worth the payout. But, it'd be so cool if it did work reasonably well. I need to buy a shoddy second hand SD845 something for $30 or less from eBay so I won't feel too bad if I bork it.
If your doing a Tutorial at least stick with more phone issues, I prefer to see how well does it run with the Android Subsystem, WhatsApp and what about Cellular Data, make a phone call, does are better tests !!! pfffffffffffffffffffff 😌😌😵😵😵😵😱😱😱😱😎😎👏👏👍👍🤟🤟😉😉
Good suggestions, thank you. Due to the way the BIOS works Android subsystem won’t work with this. So I kinda put it down. I’ll have to come back and do more.
That's an interesting game I haven't heard about before. Unfortunately the GPU support with Windows on this phone is not good enough to run modern games. Thanks for the suggestion though.
It looks like there are some attempts to run Linux on here, one of the most supported so far is Debian Stretch. I would like to do more Linux installs on various devices. Please keep your suggestions coming.
Ah you can install whatever you can even enable wsl2 in windows and install whatever Linux distro y would recomend kali nethunter arm64 for baremetal install it has the most widest hardware support it bypass ubuntu hardware support well ubuntu might have more repos /plastic where you can choose the software from , but git is a nice frend if you want beding edge software, what about replacing the hardware ta least Qualcomm gen 8
Just don't mess with the space time continuum while you're in the past looking for some retro tech
I know right, I once accidentally grabbed something from the past years before Techmoan was supposed to buy it from eBay. When I returned to the present I found he had instead made a video about something completely different. I still miss that original Techmoan video.
@@JanusCycle damn
That was really interesting and well done, thanks for producing this video
cool, thank you
I agree, in depth I appreciate it. I'm looking at either a 950xl or L1520
I also have love of the small machines...
My favorite 2014 game alien isolation was ported to phone.
It runs on s9 845 and up...
That level will now be the expectation of arm users. 😊
For that size/form factor.
There are some youtube videos of a person playing it on a phone.
This is what you are up against🤣
Windows 11 on this old phone is dos box max...😋 (still good)
Your videos are great...
Wow, I didn't know Alien Isolation had been released for mobile. Thanks for letting me know. I'm very impressed with this game.
Amazing video!!! Thank you for this! Subscribed!
This project along with the Renegade Project (supports more modern snapdragon SOCs) is great to see. I have somewhat of an obsession with UMPCs and little laptops. The modern ones from GPD are still just a bit too big. I would like to put something together with a oneplus phone running windows and a little keyboard.
There always seems to be a trend follow up popular small devices with something more powerful and bigger. GPD have just made the new WIN Mini though. They are at least trying to make something smaller again.
speaking of scummvm, I really love the Discworld games ;)
Good way to repurpose an old windows phone! Very nifty. I wanted to run windows on my HTC Hero 200 through limbo but due to hardware limitations the farthest I’ll get is probably POSReady 2009…
i am enjoying watching your videos often Apple uses M1 chips in their computers now
It turns out Apple was not the first company to transition their operating system to ARM based CPUs. I hope to make a video about the first company to do this well before Apple did.
Thank you a lot ! My android phone is getting kinda old and now i need to replace battery for 3rd time i guess so i was thinking maybe its time to get something new. Now i know what i want !
I'm wondering if we can do some SDR with the embedded radio chipset on this phone... Tickling my mind... Watching ebay...
Try poco x3 pro and windows 11 arm translation there, you will be surprised
With GPU support I expect it would be amazing.
I wonder how well Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA) runs on this? I would hope someone has produced an ARM-native WSA!
Also, I suspect Microsoft efforts to support ARM might have something to do with the large number of Apple Mac users running Bootcamp and Windows on Apple hardware, and the recent move from Apple away from Intel to (ARM based) "Apple silicon".
WSA does have an ARM native version and I was able to install it. However a Budgie found that the lack of proper UEFI support means it won't run :(
Nice one
really makes me wanting to play blade runner
janus, i have a question for you, i have the lumia 950 runing windows 11 insider, i shoud use the windows 10 for have better performance, o the 2 windows are that slow?
I think Tiny 11 for ARM runs better than both Windows 10 and Windows 11 on this phone. But then a slimmed down versions of Windows 10 might run even better.
Firefox has an arm64 version
Is there a call interface and can u make or receive calls and does the cellular data works?
Yes, calls and data work. There are some limitations. I'm going to be testing them shortly.
Wouldn't it be easier back then, for Microsoft, to make an x64 or an x86 phone?? It would sell like nothing else.😊
But is it possible on Nokia Windows phones or Windows 8 or 8.1 phones to install Windows 11 on them ?
Only the 950 models
Thx
I wonder if something simpler in terms of graphics rendering like OpenSCAD would work.
OpenSCAD looks like it would work, thanks for the tip.
Ah it's a lumia phone even a today low end phone will run better
Out of interest does excel, word, PowerPoint and teams work on the Lumia? I am also curious to know if the windows 11 version you got would work on a Microsoft Surface RT? I am looking at upgrading my Surface RT to either Windows 10 or 11.
I'm sure Excel and Word will work. Not sure about Teams because of the GPU. I think the RT has a 32 bit CPU so Windows 11 wont work. But there is a way to install Windows 10 ARM on an RT. I'd like to get one and try this.
How does this run windows 11 with only 1gb of ram? Crazy stuff
The Lumia 950XL has 3GB of RAM.
Firefox has an ARM version for Windows
Firefox is slower than ms edge besids for most users edge has alot of features supported extensions including those from chrome store
I suppose you gonna have more luck with running games on windows for arm with newer snapdragon chips like the 778g/845
I would like to run this on my Lenovo P90 Pro with Intel Atom Z3560 CPU and 4GB RAM but I'm not sure how bootloaders work and project Renegade supports only ARM based CPUs and not x86. It is such a waste of hardware potential.
How are you able to run windows 11 on that phone because tge windows 11 minimum requierments are 4gb ram and the phone has 1gb
This is Windows 11 for ARM so i don't know if it has different requirements for that!
no it doesnt, it has 3GB
Does the front facing camera work for windows ?
Cameras are not working.
What happens if run genshin impact game x64 version on Lumia 950xl 😂
It won't work because the GPU in this phone is not properly supported by Windows on ARM :(
Sim card work or not in the emulation.
SIM card work, calls and data ok if you install an old version of Windows 10 first and get your network registry key. But no text messages in Windows 11.
@@JanusCycle thanks for reply.
Could your Lumia run Linux for arm? This might allow you to run smaller games on steam
There is a proof of concept Linux build for this Lumia. Many things are not supported and I don't know if it would work. But your suggestion is really interesting, thank you.
Ah graphics are same why do you think it would make a difference actually a driver updater if not all the hardware is detected means the lack of drivers
Is bluetooth working?
Yes, everything works except the cameras.
Can you help me to install windows 11 on my Lumia 950xl and I. Have hp x 3 Windows Phone can I install on it please 🙏 help me thanks
All the help you need is here
woa-project.github.io/LumiaWOA/guides/
@@JanusCycle can you make me Video how
is this working better than windows 10 arm or its just me?
Ah is the same kernel why people think is another os just because of the name 😐 well the ui is more touch optmised but appart from gui there is no diffrence in performance
@@adriancoanda9227 i also have a 950xl with windows 10arm and it feels definitely slower, this phone in this video for some reason feels slightly snappier than mine
will team fortress 2 work :)
please how can i get the .hex from the lumia 830?
What is your question asking? Do you get your Lumia firmware from the lumiafirmware .com website?
@@JanusCycle I did the wrong procedures to put the windows 10 and I need the .hex of the rm-985 (nokia lumia 830) to go back to windows 8 can you help me please
@@lucassilva-ff7yr I don't understand what you are asking? When my Lumia failed to install Windows 11 desktop. I was able to use Microsoft's Windows Device Recovery Tool to get the firmware working back to Windows Phone again. Have you tried this?
Get a decent driver updater maybe it will work everything and lumia is quite slow for Windows 11arm64
Battery Life?
Screen on running heavy Windows apps, about an hour.
@@JanusCycle but only UWP?
3gb ram useless.
I used this phone for burning some DVD ISOs to install modern Linux on an Ancient Tablet :)
There is also windows support for snapdragon 845 devices
Yes it is the thingy is that most phone have uefi and usb boot disabled in firmware so you need a bootloader like edk 2 like a clover for phones tricking the hardware to boot from other media devices
I've got a mint condition LG V35 that every so often I get this urge to install Windows on before realizing that; A) I still enjoy using it as-is and I know I have just enough IT talent to break it without having enough to fix it, and B) according to Project Renegade it's one of the least supported 845 phones for Windows on ARM so the risk posed by "A" isn't going to be worth the payout. But, it'd be so cool if it did work reasonably well. I need to buy a shoddy second hand SD845 something for $30 or less from eBay so I won't feel too bad if I bork it.
If your doing a Tutorial at least stick with more phone issues, I prefer to see how well does it run with the Android Subsystem, WhatsApp and what about Cellular Data, make a phone call, does are better tests !!! pfffffffffffffffffffff 😌😌😵😵😵😵😱😱😱😱😎😎👏👏👍👍🤟🤟😉😉
Good suggestions, thank you. Due to the way the BIOS works Android subsystem won’t work with this. So I kinda put it down. I’ll have to come back and do more.
Yeah wsa needs virtualization support enabled in cpu level but android vm are plenty virual box maybe
Does the simcard works fine?
Yes, calls and internet work fine. No text messages with Windows 11 though.
good luck playing games with no working gpu drivers
I'll need more than luck :)
Nice work! I loved it.
tnx
I want you to try out hello neighbor alpha 1.
That's an interesting game I haven't heard about before. Unfortunately the GPU support with Windows on this phone is not good enough to run modern games. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@@JanusCycle lol np, if i wanted u to try out its cuz i had luck with it on trash pcs, and also cuz i like it.
@@JanusCycle does it just refuse to start?
Can you try to install Ubuntu on this phone also will you install haiku on that Fujitsu phone
It looks like there are some attempts to run Linux on here, one of the most supported so far is Debian Stretch. I would like to do more Linux installs on various devices. Please keep your suggestions coming.
Ah you can install whatever you can even enable wsl2 in windows and install whatever Linux distro y would recomend kali nethunter arm64 for baremetal install it has the most widest hardware support it bypass ubuntu hardware support well ubuntu might have more repos /plastic where you can choose the software from , but git is a nice frend if you want beding edge software, what about replacing the hardware ta least Qualcomm gen 8