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- Full review of the PortKeys LH5P II HDMI monitor. The LH5P II is a highly capable HDMI monitor with an impressive array of tools for filmmakers. What makes this monitor so unusual is that it offers full wireless or wired control of supported cameras. Paired with the Sony FX3 I show how well this wireless control works and how useful it is to be able to see camera settings on an external monitor.
Ethics Statement
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Portkeys sent me this monitor for review. I am not being paid for the review. Portkeys have no influence on this review and do not get to see this review before it is released.
Featured Kit
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PortKeys LH5P II - geni.us/33hVF
Sony FX3 - geni.us/Mc4njM
Sony 50mm GM Lens - geni.us/NRL7d
Sennheiser MKH416 mic - geni.us/WeoR8
Sony Wireless Kit - geni.us/hXon2a
Tilta Mirage Matte Box - geni.us/6FfRaOt
PortKeys Website
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PortKeys LH5P II - www.portkeys.com/lh5p-ii/
My TH-cam Gear
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Sony FX3 - geni.us/Mc4njM
Sony A7iv - geni.us/aQbmV4
Sony 50mm GM Lens - geni.us/NRL7d
Sony 16-35 GM Lens - geni.us/uTyE0W
Sony Wireless Kit - geni.us/hXon2a
Sony SMAD-P5 Adapter - geni.us/zAQc
SmallRig FX3 Half Cage - geni.us/No7EPwh
SmallRig 4" Carbon Rods - geni.us/tnQgRS2
Tilta Mirage Matte Box - geni.us/6FfRaOt
Nitze Monitor Mount - geni.us/VIGVG9
Atomos Ninja V Recorder - geni.us/EuxLa
AndyCine Caddy - geni.us/RxCBmxq
Sennheiser MKH416 Mic - geni.us/WeoR8
AngelBird 128GB V90 Cards - geni.us/z0p6
Aputure 300x Light - geni.us/wyZgjP
Aputure 60x Light - geni.us/b2QnCci
Aputure Light Dome II - geni.us/9ew9l
Aputure Light Dome Mini II - geni.us/zW7XZgi
Miller Tripod - geni.us/abFXB5
Table of Contents:
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00:00 - Intro
00:13 - Unboxing & Overview
02:20 - Main Settings
07:20 - Function Interface
07:56 - Zebras
09:30 - Peaking
10:29 - Luma Waveform
11:17 - False Colour
12:29 - RGB Waveform
13:01 - Audio Meters
13:36 - 3d Luts
14:41 - Function Settings
15:17 - Rectangle Crop
16:08 - Histogram
16:39 - Aspect Ratio Guides
17:40 - Centre Cross Hair
17:53 - Grid Markers
18:05 - Other Functions
18:31 - Anamorphic & Colour Settings
19:09 - Connecting to Camera WiFi
20:07 - Focus Control
23:29 - IRIS, Shutter & ISO Control
24:35 - White Balance & EV Control
25:47 - Motor Control
26:03 - Top Buttons
27:10 - Multiple Functions
29:03 - Daylight Test
29:47 - Battery Life
30:14 - Final Thoughts
HashTags
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#SonyFX3
#FX3
#portkeys - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
CONNECTION PROBLEMS
Since installing the latest FX3 Firmware the method to connect via WiFi has changed. In order to be able to connect and control the camera you now need to go to Network>Network Option>Access Authen Settings and change that to Off. Once you've done that you should be able to connect and control the camera.
> FIRMWARE UPDATE
Portkeys have released firmware (LH5P-V3.07.09.C28.B34) Link: www.portkeys.com/download-category/lh5p-ii-firmware/
1.Added image acquisition, image overlay, and custom JPG image overlay functionality (onion skin).
2.Removed TINT control bar from BMPCC(BLE) control page and added a playback control bar.
3.Resolved occasional disconnection issues and problems with controlling shutter and exposure compensation for SONY A1 and SONY ILME-FX30 during the control process.
4.Resolved an issue where the status is incorrect after pressing the record button on the monitor when the SONY camera has no storage card or has a storage card but cannot record (storage card speed is not sufficient for recording format speed).
5.Improved SONY gear control.
6.Added Panasonic DC-S5M2 control.
7.Fixed the issue of brightness attenuation in black and white mode of the PEAKING function.
8.Fixed the problem of not being able to control the Panasonic BGH1 menu through the monitor's touch control.
9.Modified the issue of vertical lines appearing during cold boot on some machines.
10.When there is no signal, the display of battery power and recording red frame is added.
> FIRMWARE UPDATE
Since producing this review PortKeys have released a new firmware (LH5P-V3.05.05.C20.B27)
. Link: www.portkeys.com/download-category/lh5p-ii-firmware/
The following is a list of changes with my comment about each one...
1. Modify the Gesture Zooming function so that it is independent of Rectangle Crop function, and you can only move the image with one finger after the gesture is zoomed in;
"Gesture zooming works much better now and I find this feature much more useful. Likewise the rectangle punch in also works well"
2. Support displaying battery level (maximum 5 bars), and add the display of the battery level icon of the camera;
"Battery level is displayed using bars on a battery icon. I have not yet been able to figure out whats meant by displaying the battery level of the camera though"
3. Add the option of menu display time on the system settings page;
"Confirmed, this automatically hides the menu after the set amount of time although it seems a little inconsistent!"
4. Add Q1 and Q3 options to BMPCC Bluetooth controller, and fixed disconnection/ reconnection/ scan related issues;
"Cannot test"
5. Adjust the layout of the WIFI control page of SONY ILCE-7SM3;
"Cannot test, FX3 seems the same as previous"
6. Change the default state of auto Color Calibration and Black Level to off;
"Confirmed"
7. Add zebra "Middle" mode, adjustable IRE -7~109, the range is 0-30 IRE;
"Yes! This makes using zebras for exposing middle grey or skin tones much easier on this monitor"
8. Add the display of the total working time of the monitor;
"Confirmed, this is shown on the firmware update page"
9. Fix the problem of Zebra, False Color, Peaking capture Grid lines, Guide frame and Cross Hair;
"Confirmed, this is now fixed"
10. Optimize the Waveform position to avoid being covered by UI;
"Waveform is now a little smaller and is away from UI however this leaves the waveform sitting further in to monitor once UI is closed. I would prefer it to move to edge once UI is not there"
11. Modify the problem that SONY A7C cannot display the recording status normally.
"cannot test"
Question Paul. When in Wireless Camera Control mode, can you still display false colours / waveform / peaking etc... for example by attributing these function to a button ? Can you have the red frame saying you're recording meanwhile displaying the tools? I have a BM5 III, more expensive and no camera control... so i'm luring on this model..
Hi, thanks for this video extremely informative. I am having an issue with the monitor though, on my version under guides it does not display masks! There is no option to have it be black, there isn't even an option to toggle masks.. Is it the same for yours on the most recent firmware? im on v3.05.05.c20.b27
@@charder1988 I have the same problem. Did you succeed finding answers?
@@fronixgrim54 yes, so I messaged Portkeys directly, and they said they removed it! 🤦🏻♂️ no idea why but they did say they are bringing it back in a future firmware update though.
FIX LH5PII PROBLEMS!! This monitor does not work with Sony fx3 firmware v2.00 Wifi does not see the camera when the phone sees it. Disgusting monitor update support. Firmware LH5P-V.3.05.05.C20.B27. I bought a monitor for normal work with focusing - now it is not available due to irregular updates. There were 3 hot pixels out of the box. The quality and attitude to the consumer is not clear. I hope that at least the firmware will be corrected.
Thank you for such a terrifically in-depth review! It’s really helpful.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for letting me know Mark.
Thanks Paul for this very thorough and useful review !
Thanks Christopher
Great review. It gave me all the information I needed to pull the trigger on this monitor. Thanks.
Glad I could help!
Yes absolutely superb review.
Thanks so much for the in depth guide 💚
Your very welcome.
Great video! Thank you!
Fantastic review, Paul! I was highly considering this option after first watching and am really happy to see that further firmware updates have seemed to fix most of the issues that you have with it as they would have been annoying to me. Great work!
Thanks for letting me know, glad it helped.
I bought this today, now, just gotta learn it with this video.
There's a lot to learn in there, have fun.
great review, thanks from Poland!
Pleased it helped, thanks for letting me know.
This monitor is so terrific when we applied lut on it… the picture the color have really bad color banding even I’ve got the latest firmware update.
Looks like a nice device. Consider a product update video if they fix the issues you've noted.
Of note, DJI has attained nearly full control of Sony camera menus with their recent transmitter/monitor device. They've done this by leveraging (reverse engineering?) Sony's Bravia controls, which were designed to allow Sony TVs to control Sony cameras through the HDMI connection.
Thanks Michael. I'm in discussion with PortKeys about the issues noted and they are working on firmware fixes. I'll consider making an update video however I'll definately post updates here as well via the description and a pinned comment.
That's interesting about the DJI solution, I'd really like to try one of those.
Excellent video. I’m getting this for my zcam. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to try it out next weekend and after watching this, I have a good idea as to how it works. Thanks!
Great stuff, let me know how you get on. Also, have you seen the firmware update? See my pinned comment.
@@PaulJoy Hey I did get it. It is very nice. Eats the battery a bit but very nice and easy to use monitor. I did an update maybe 2 weeks ago. Is there another one since then?
@@blaylock1978 No just the one update I think, just wanted to confirm you'd seen it.
@@PaulJoy I appreciate it, thank you!
Great review as ever. Makes up for the Portkeys documentation!
Touch Focus only works in Spot and Expandable Spot, whereas touch tracking works in all. I hope the can fix this so that Touch Focus works in Wide Area.
The high level Zebras are good - anything over 94 IRE show the clip and matches the camera monitor. Lower level is a disaster and I’ve been to asking Portkeys why?! Not one of their techs could explain it as you have in this video! Eg: setting 41% (IRE) will not ‘target’ 41% for grey card (or skin at another % setting) but everything below it.
My brain nearly exploded getting Portkeys to understand this.
Hope the sent you the monitor as you made the video that they should have!!
Ha, yes they did send me the monitor for review, maybe I should rebrand as the instant video manual guy! This monitor has so many awesome features, but some of the basics like battery level indication and zebra ranges don't seem to have been ironed out yet, I'm hoping they will address these via firmware as I'm sure they could be perfected to complete an otherwise great package.
Yes. It could be perfection. And may well get there. Your videos are FAR more than manuals! It’s just that this thing is so quirky it needed this video review. There are indeed some awful basic admissions.
The zebras need fixing, touch focus in all modes, and actually getting the focus box to show on the monitor. I believe Monitor + app does this so it should be possible.
This would knock Atomos out of the park for features.
I have also suggested that as it works with a Nucleus Nano motor, (for focus) that could also implement it to adjust the Tilta Mirage VND from the monitor screen. Now that would be nice……
@@simonjacobsphotography I'm no technician but I would imagine the only reason Monitor+ can display focus boxes is because it's displaying the wireless video transmission. It would be really cool if we could just ditch the HDMI cable on the PortKeys and done with it but I expect it comes down to processing speed.
@@PaulJoy Ah. Yes. That would be it.
Useful video , this is the only monitor I know to have touch focus tracking with Sony, also zv-e10, a7c ...
Yes it’s surprising none of the other manufacturers have done that, especially with something like the vaxis A5, having wireless video and camera control would be really interesting.
@22:00, wow, amazing functions in this monitor. It's staggering to wonder WHY Atomos and other brands aren't doing this, adding camera control, and a basic red recording ring... heck @DJI is the worst. I can't believe I still miss shots because I can't tell if I'm recording on the little screen.
You'd think it would be an easy addition for these companies and you're right, it makes a huge difference!
Outstanding review and very helpful. Just a quick question. Is the monitor interface compatible with the new Cine EI feature of the FX3 (toggle between the native ISO's ). Thanks
Good question. I've not tried that yet but will do and report back.
Thank you for so detailed review! Touch options still far away from phones quality, so it’s better to use old buttons)
I've tried using my phone a couple of times and the functionality is great. The trouble for me is the image lag, if they can solve that it would be great.
Hey Paul, very nice review, straight to the point !!
One question tho, I noticed that the Touch Focus it kinds of took some time to change focus, is it because u set this way, to take a bit of time, because I use this function quite a lot and would be nice if the Touch focus would answer/react a bit faster...
thank u :)
Hi Andre. I just have my focus speed set slow. You in can see in the wider shot that the camera reacts quickly to the screen because the focus area changes position.
Great video! Very complete and straight to the point.
I just have one question: do you have to manually connect the camera to the monitor every time you turn the monitor or the camera on and off? Or does it always connect automatically? (the wireless control that is.?
I’m still figuring this one out myself, sometimes it’s connected automatically but other times I’ve had to re initiate the Wi-Fi connection. I think it depends on how you connect as there’s a few ways to do it. I’ll spend some time answering this question in more detail in the future.
@@PaulJoy Thank you so much! I'm thinking of buying either this monitor or the Portkeys BM5WR but having to connect the monitor to the camera mid-production every time I shut it down sounds too cumbersome.
Amazing review... I'm super frustrated actually as I bought the BM5III one year ago for my FX3 and this monitor has a lot of super useful options like seing camera settings, record frame and button, TOUCH FOCUS!!! .. that my BM5 III has not... despite being more than 100 euros more expensive..
Yes I feel your pain as I'm normally the guy buying just before the new version is released! I've not tried the BM5, hopefully this will come to other models in the future.
Super review I think you have certainly answered all my questions.
Is there a less expensive version of this port keys monitor.
That will use the Sony NP battery ?
Due to my diminishing eyesight I really need to see the camera settings on that monitor.
If there is a less expensive version
Will it let me use the cameras controls such as focus Iris etc that I can see changing on the monitor ?
Thanks Again
Keith
Hi Keith. I've not used the NX5U so I can't be sure however I have used a few Sony video cameras in the past. You won't be able to control the camera from the external monitor however you might be able to display the cameras menu and settings on the external monitor. Have a look in the oiutput section of the menu and see if you can see any options for outputting information via HDMI. You could always hook it up to a normal HDMI TV or computer monitor to try it out.
If that works then there are plenty of lower cost on camera monitors that provide basic HDMI display as well as offering some exposure and focusing tools that will be better than those in camera. Check out the Atomos Shinobi for example.
I hope that helps.
Great review. I have been looking to ditch my Ninja 5+. They are not interested in updating their products.
Ninja V is a great recorder but I agree some of the monitor aspects are slipping behind the competition.
Awesome review! Which would you rather have, this or the Shinobi?
That’s not an easy choice really, the Shinobi has better refined tools and doesn’t suffer from the banding I show in the video however the Portkeys has the wireless camera control and better overall build quality. If I could only keep one Id probably go for the Portkeys just because the camera control is so useful.
Thank you for this thorough review. I have a question, will it also display a picture if I film in 50p? Using the fx3 and fx6.
Yes it will.
Great video. Is the speed of the touch focus determined by the autofocus settings in the FX3? Or by the monitor?
It uses the settings in the camera.
I recieved mine today! wanted to add some information for anyone struggling to connect.
I had to switch WiFi to 2.4hz on my Fx3 to connect to the monitor. 5ghz didn't show up when searching for available devices.
Thanks loads for sharing!
Same! Had it on 5GHz for iPad apps. Had a hard time figuring out why it wouldn't show up on the monitor as an available camera. Then it clicked that it has a 2.4GHz antenna...
Thank you for the video! In terms of connecting to the camera, do you have to type in the password each time for wifi? Or does it auto-connect after that first initial connection?
Hi Justin. No it remembers the password. I've found that sometimes you need to reinitiate the connection on the camera but as long as the password isn't changed the monitor reconnects.
@@PaulJoy Thank you so much for the info Paul! Very much appreciated!
@@justinchow13 Glad to help Justin
Hey paul great review ! since the making of this video do you know if firmware updates were made for the zebras and the banding ? im looking to get a monitor for my a7iv and stuck between this one or the Atomos shinobi .
Hi there. The zebras are much improved now however the banding is still present I'm afraid.
Hi, great review! Which HDMI cable would you recommend to connect to a SONY A7S3 ? Thanks.
Thanks, glad it was useful. I've been using this one and it works up to 4K Prores RAW on my FX3. geni.us/j6hg9N
Hello Paul. Thanks for the video. I have an A7IV, I see you have thee camera and you also reviewed both monitors. Would you recommend this one over the Ninja V? they are both the same price now. I don't need the recording option on the monitor. Just considering the Ninja works with 4k 60p. Would love to hear your opinion. Thank you very much!
Hi Leon. If you don’t need the recording capabilities of the Ninja then then it’s likely not the best choice as it has less capable tools and shorter battery life. Either this PortKeys or the Atomos Shinobi offer better tools than the Ninja.
@@PaulJoy Thank you very much! ;)
hi, great review! just bought mine, having a small issue, can't visualize the display on my fx3 as you soon both devices,
any advice ?
The FX3 (and most Sony mirrorless cameras) switch off the the camera LCD when using HDMI info. No way around that I'm afraid unless Sony allow it in a firmware update.
Thx for the review. So it has touch focus vs the bm5, right? But 1-is there remote control wirelessly of the camera and if not 2-would you recommend adding something like a holly land transmitter + this over the bm5 for touch focus plus other features? 😊
Yes there’s control over the camera as shown in the video. I’ve not tried the bm5 so can’t comment on that one.
@@PaulJoy thank you Paul!
Does the wireless connection between the LH5P II and the FX3 still work after updating the FX3 to 2.02 firmware? I didn't have a chance to test the LH5P II yet, but I just rented the BM5 III WR and I wasn't able to connect it wirelessly to my Sony FX3. I wonder is it because of the new firmware on the FX3, or did I miss some setting.
I’m still on v2.0 but when I update I’ll test it.
@@PaulJoy It works now! 😀 I just had to update the firmware on the monitor.
Any insight on viewing recorded clips with the monitor. Seems like neither the on cam display or the portkeys will allow you to view the playback. I have had to turn off the monitor in order to view playback. Thanks and great video.
That’s strange, I used it on a shoot last week and was able to watch play back on the monitor?
Just curious would the camera controls also work if you use a a wireless transmitter like hollyland mars ?
I don’t see why not, and I’m surprised nobody has included wireless control with wireless monitors as yet.
@@PaulJoy I think the only company has had came close to it is DJI, there new wireless transmitter and receiver does it with Sony cameras , but thing is a arm and a leg in $ 😂
Hello Paul I just subscribed and hit the Bell
I have a question.I use I use a Sony nx5u video camera.
I was just wondering if when you hook up this monitor.
Are you able to see the cameras menu on the big monitor screen ?
Talking about are you able to see the cameras settings on this screen ?
If so are you able to change the camera settings by way of the monitor ? Another thing please. Can I attach a Sony NP battery to this monitor for power ?
Thanks
Keith
Hi Keith, thanks for the nice comments and the sub. Unfortunately I don't think this monitor provides control for the NX5U. It uses Sony NP-F550 / 750 / 950 type batteries.
@@PaulJoy
I truly appreciate your reply.
Many people won't even give you a reply.
Put the info you gave me is perfect thank you.
Keith Kuhn
hey, how do you check its battery level? i cant seem to check it out? also, is this updated? theres no black in my guide option? please reply
Yes check the firmware update, there is a link in the pinned comment.
Are you not able to use the touch to focus feature without the wifi menu being open? It's annoying to lose even more screen space on an already small monitor.
No because touching the screen would just open the menu again.
hi there! I love your video, and made me decide to buy the monitor. But I've got an issue: when turning on the aspect ratio guides, it doesn't appear the "MASKS " option, so it's only two lines marking, but without the black mask, that helps a lot to frame. Do you know why is that? Thank you!
That’s strange, did you update to the latest firmware?
@@PaulJoy yes, the V3.0
@jepjorba did you find a solution to this? I've got the same issue.
I have a sony a74 with the sigma 24-70. For some reason, the touch to focus button is not an option on the monitor. Is this a settings/firmware issue? Looking for some help, thanks.
Hi Noah. Is touch focus enabled on the camera?
QUESTION: How do you connect to LH5P II to Sony camera via the USB-C cable? WiFi works fine but I wish to use USB to save on battery life. I turn on PC remote function, when connected, the monitor shows black screen while showing IRIS Shutter and ISO values.
I’ve not tried that so not sure. Strange you lose video signal, I’m assuming you still have the HDMI signal before you connect the USB?
Great Video thanks. Couple of questions; in your experience Shinobi or this Monitor? And which has the fan that is most quiet?
I keep both in my kit and prefer to use the Portkeys as it’s brighter with more accurate colour. The Shinobi is silent whereas the Portkeys does have a fan although it is very quiet.
@@PaulJoy thanks Paul that’s all I needed to know !! I’m obsessed with getting the perfect screen but more for how small and easy to pack than anything else :-) well obviously has to be good !!
Hi Paul I have a quick question would your pick LHP5 ii over the atomos ninja V ?
I have both in my bag and always choose the Portkeys unless I need to record externally.
My Portkeys Monitor has the color profile set to flat, without using the LOADED Luts, i cant get the true colors to display, is there a setting i can use to change this?
Hi David, Assuming it's the LH5PII, you can adjust the RGB colour settings as shown at 18:30 which will let you try to get something closer.
Hi Paul.
I just got this monitor, but no matter what, I can't seem to correctly connect wireless to my FX3. Under "My Devices" it is saying I'm connected to the FX3, but none of the camera settings (ISO, Shutter, Focus) show up on the monitor. I've tried everything, and I'm just about to send it back, but is there any last resort you would suggest??
Is it because I'm on firmware 3.0 and it's not supported?
No it’s not that as I’ve used it on 3.0. Have you tried connecting it as a PC control device rather than a smartphone connection?
In this video the camera ist still connected to the monitor via hdmi for the whole time. I guess it's possible to use the portkey just as a monitor via wifi, right? so there is no hdmi connection needed for monitoring or control. Any experience with the working distance for a wifi setup? I am thinking of using this monitor on a gimbal to control the shot without touching the camera.
The monitor is not wireless for video signal, only for controlling the camera.
@@PaulJoy Thank you for your feedback! It's just weird they don't make this feature possible when comparing to multiple monitoring smartphone apps.
Hi, thanks for the useful review.
Does it keep eye af and face detection working on Sony a7iv while recording 4k in camera?
You’re welcome. It doesn’t change the cameras capabilities, it just allows you to change camera settings from the monitor.
@@PaulJoy Thank you for the quick response
Great Job Michael, baut where is the battery level?
14:56
Dear Paul, is it true the LH5P doens't have the freeze-frame function? I want that function. The Shinobi has it. I don't want to pay double for the BM III just because that one does have the freeze-frame function.. (the one where you overlay a picture in half opacity or something).
Hi Tom. I certainly didn’t see anything like that, unless I totally missed what sounds like a cool feature then I don’t think it does.
Unless there was a firmware update that I don't know about; the Shinobi DOES NOT have this function
Hi, thanks for your video. I have a problem I’m trying get into the focus option but it doesn’t show on my screen the focus, i can see the iris, kelvin… but not the focus option. Could you please help me
Hi there. Do you have the lens switched to AF?
Yes I do
might seem like an obvious question to most.. but, I'm looking to get this for my new Z Cam S6.. its been years since I've been into film.. digital has come a long way for the price.. So, this doesn't come with an HDMI cable right? So I need to buy a full size HDMI cable?
I wonder... with all the options out there,, which one I should get for 4 and 6k video..
No you'll need to get an HDMI cable separately. The size depends on the camera, if it's FX3 or FX30 then yes they have a full size HDMI connector. If you don't need the wireless camera control features then honestly I'd keep life simple and look at the Atomos Shinobi which offers great value and has better tools than the Portkeys.
Thank you so much for the detail review. One thing I wanna know that how do I preview my footage when my Fx30 is connect to monitor via wifi? I can't find a way to preview my videos on Portkeys even on my camera because it says its on PC mode. Please help. Thank you
You need to use Connect to Smartphone and not PC Remote Control.... th-cam.com/video/MdhOsXdGgXM/w-d-xo.html Once you've done that you press the preview button on the camera and it will play back on the monitor.
So I figured out the problem. You can only get functions lije focus and exposure to work from the FX3 to work via wifi. You can only start and stop record with the cable.
Ah, yes that's correct, I'll have to remember to make that clear in future. Glad you got it sorted.
Hey Paul, was wondering if you could help answer this. Would the WIFI connection with the camera work simultaneously with a Bluetooth connection to the camera as well?
For example if I wanted to use this monitor and also connect it via Bluetooth to the DJI RS3, would functions on both devices still work with the camera?
Hi Justin. I’m pretty sure it does but to be sure I’ll double check tomorrow
th-cam.com/users/shorts_IbN7iNSavc?feature=share
@@PaulJoy Thank you so much!!
@@justinchow13 You're welcome :)
Thanks for such a great review. I am considering this monitor for my FX3. However from teh PortKeys website it says that it can only display up to UHD at 30p. Does that mean you can't use the monitor if you are shooting in higher frame rates or in S&Q mode? Thanks.
While it won’t display the signal at higher than 30p it will still display it so you can continue to monitor it when shooting higher frame rates or S&Q
@@PaulJoy Thanks 🙂
Did you get the monitor?
@@ahmadfakih3451no I didn't in the end. I am now considering the 7" version that works with Sony and BM cameras.
Would you say the image and color on this monitor compare to a SmallHD monitor? Just tried the Shinobi and it was no where near as good.
I’ve not tried a SmallHD monitor for many years now so I can’t really comment on that. Until the banding issue I saw is fixed I’d find it hard to recommend this one based on image quality alone.
Paul, as you suggested I've connected my FX30 with Wifi PC. All working brilliantly. However, apparently when I try to playback in camera; I get a black screen on the FX30 screen that says "This operation or setting not available as follows; Still Img. Save Dest. and PC Only.
So yes the Wifi connection through the PC protocals works more reliably but with the caveat that the camera will not playback clips.
I also tried the hardwire approach, a disappointment as it is a rudimentary arrow menu (more and less) on some limited functions like iris and iso etc...
Hi Michael. Have you tried changing the image destination to be the camera only?
@@PaulJoy genius! That did it… Lucky you’re across the pond… I’d put you on speed dial! Thank you!
too bad you can't see the focus rectangle both in normal and tracking af. Is there a delay on focus operations compared to when you touch the camera's display ?
Very little delay, in the video you can see the response on the back of the camera.
How is the WiFi connection when you need to turn monitor and camera on and off multiple times? Do you have to reconnect every time ?
Not every time no although I have had to reconnect in the past. The wireless connection to Sony cameras can be very mysterious at times, I wish I could give a firmer answer!
@Paul Joy this confirms it wouldn't suit me. I absolutely love this idea but I'd like to depend on effortless connection 😩
@@DigitalGenki I've used it on all day shoots swapping batteries in both devices and it's worked perfectly but anything requiring WiFi connection to the camera seems to have it's moments occasionally!
Nice review. I’m looking for something better than the shinobi for the fx3. I would like better colour accuracy (my shinobi is a bit warm in cast, and brighter screen. These features seem great but are they more likely to get in the way of the simple buttons on the camera?
I regularly use the Shinobi too and know what you mean about the colours. This one has more options to adjust the image however I haven't delved in to that aspect as yet as the video is already waaaaaay too long! I'll look to do a comparison to the Atomos monitors in the future though. To answer your question, no the options don't get in the way because you don't have to see them, in fact having quick access function buttons on top means you rarely have to go in to the menus at all if you prefer!
@@PaulJoy thanks Paul. It’s kind of good to know it’s not my eyes with my monitor colours at least! You’ve tested a good amount of monitors, which would you go for with as a 5-6inch monitor on the fx3
@@philvfilms It’s actually a tough choice. This one has some amazing features, seeing the camera settings is awesome however it’s just a little lacking in some of the more regular tools. For instance the very basic zebra offering would be quite a loss for my usual workflow.
If Portkeys can tune the firmware a little more to perfect the irritations I mention then I think this would be the better monitor of the two but for now I think the Shinobi offers some more reliable basics.
Ask me again in a few weeks and I’ll have some real world use of the PortKeys under my belt.
@@PaulJoy thanks Paul. I think we all get obsessed with gear at times and bored. I know the shinobi does me well for 90% of the time. I look forward to the comparison review in the future
The Shinobi can be color corrected with a Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro or ColorChecker Display Plus (Formerly X-Rite i1 Display Pro or i1 Display Pro Plus). Any of those models will work with the Atomos color calibration utility.
will the auto focus square box show on the monitor after firmware 2.0 like it now does on the phone apps for the FX3?
No it doesn’t, I’m not sure if that’s something Portkeys could add.
@@PaulJoy ok ty. well it should be on sonys side not portkeys. The Monitor + app has not been able to show the square until sony released firmware 2.0 and the same day both the monitor + and image edge apps had the square box visible.
I also noticed that your video: "Sony FX3 v2.0 - 10 features you might have missed!" Does not show the square box either, when you tapped the focus on the image edge app.. But I assure you its there. maybe you did not activate it on your end?
Maybe he said it in the video but since I'm using the subtitles I missed it (I speak Spanish). Is it possible to send a 4k 60p signal to this monitor? If you can't, what options are there? Thank you!
Yes I think you can send it but I’m not sure if the display is at 60hz.
@@PaulJoy Will the monitor work if you are shooting in 100 fps do you know Paul? I'm guessing it just mirrors in the same way it would if you are filming 25 fps but just wanted to check. Thanks! Great video!
Awesome tutorial. Bravo! Perhaps you can help? I recently received a FX30, I also have the a7siii-- I have the LHP II and it worked brilliantly on the a7siii. However, the FX30 needs to reinitiate the WiFi Smartphone procedure after I have turned off the camera or phone.
I'm thinking that the Sony FX30 doesn't have an "Always Connected" option. Does the updated firmware on your FX3 have an option to "Wifi Always Connect?"
Also the LHPII touch focus only seems to work when I select focus tracking, and although I can select on the PortKeys the Spot Focus, Focus Tracking and OFF--the Spot Focus does not function, So in the same vein; does your FX3 do both? I know you demonstrated it, I'm wondering if its something that survived or was overlooked with the firmware update? Of course it just may be a FX30 issue all together... Thank you, and please keep cranking out the videos!
Hi there. Okay so on the FX3 v2 I can still switch between focus tracking and spot focus via the LHPII and both do function however you have to make sure that you’re not using wide focus area. Try something like expandable spot.
In terms of connection when switching off the FX3, yes I’ve noticed that too when using smartphone register, I generally have to go to the register smartphone screen on the camera and press the bin button ‘connect via Wi-Fi’ and the screen connects automatically.
You’re right, the always connected does seem to have been removed or at least isn’t where it used to be.
One thing you might want to try is using PC Remote Control option instead of Smartphone Register. I find this seems to maintain connection after power cycles although it does all seem a bit of a dark art the way Sony has implemented these options!
@@PaulJoy Thank you Paul for the quick response and direction! I will implement your suggestions-I guess the PC approach via cable will also reduce battery consumption and most certainly increase the reliability factor.
@@magpiemike100 Hi Michael. Sorry for the confusion, on the FX3 you can also use WiFi (Direct Wifi) to control the camera using the PC Control section of the menu, so it's still wireless control but not using the smartphone connection method. I quite like it as it also comes up showing -PC- on the display when connected. Let me know how you get on.
@@PaulJoy Okay, will do!
@@PaulJoy Paul; all of your suggestions worked! I’m impressed with your diligence-as PortKeys (as well as Sony) tends to be less than efficient product support communicators. Coupled with “sort of” comparable operating systems, (a7siii, Fx3, Fx30 etc) with random gaps between selectors-takes a lot of astute, deep dives and patience to successfully navigate the technology… You must be one tired bastard when you actually make it to the field to shoot! Thank you again!
Hi Paul, whereabouts can you order /buy this monitor in the UK? The dealers seem to have the previous version not the mark II. I absolutely love the toggle MF/AF option for Sony Alpha cameras on the screen!!! Will be so bloody useful when using this monitor on a gimbal.
Hi Andrew. I'm not sure, it's only just been released so it may take some time for the retailers to have stock.
@@PaulJoy ahh that could explain it. Amazon have the previous version as does everyone else. Were you happy with the MF/AF toggle button control? And can you connect the have have the same control but with the monitor connected to the camera wired instead of wi-fi? Thank you for such an in-depth review, really really informative and without any silly gimmicks that so many camera reviewers put into their videos (mainly the American reviews it must be said!)
Hi Andrew, PortKeys just told me that they have now listed the LH5P II on Amazon UK... geni.us/33hVF
So in 4K 120fps with an a7s3 or fx3 it won't be able to pick up the signal ?
You can record in 4K 120 but still output a 1080p signal via HDMI so you can still monitor while recording.
@@PaulJoy Thanks a lot !!
I am so confused. I have the same exact monitor on my Sony A7iv and the touch focus option is not showing.
Are you getting in to the remote controls at all? Since the most recent firmware updates on the FX3 and A7iv Sony seem to have changed something as the PortKeys monitors no longer connect properly.
This monitor is amazing for my bmpcc6k only down AT ALL is there is no way to Dec text battery life unless batter has a gauge already
Have you updated to the latest firmware?
@@PaulJoy didn’t know there was another
Hi Paul, just one more questions, can you adjust the fan on this monitor for low noise mode or even to off?
Hi Andrew. Yes, it changes between high and low. I recorded a sample at 04:40
@@PaulJoy I've ordered the monitor today from Isabelle at Portkeys!
@@RobinsonAndrew Nice one, let me know how you get on. I was out shooting with mine today and it's taking me a while to get the muscle memory with all the different swipes but it was a pleasure to work with.
@@PaulJoy HI Paul, I've tested it on my Sony A7IV and it works fantastically well. I've just ordered the FX3 to use that on the gimbal, again with full control via the monitor. May I ask, do you have any audio buzzing issues on your FX3 when you use the 3.5 phono jack directly on the side of the camera?
@@RobinsonAndrew Glad you like it, I was doing a shoot on Saturday that was all on the Ronin and wish I'd taken the PortKeys. I used the Shinobi just because I have a sunshade for it. Having to touch the LCD on a gimbal causes a wobble on the gimbal so that would be a great use for the PortKeys. I'll have to find a shade for it.
I haven't heard any buzzing although the 3.5mm input is a little noisier. I actually recently compared them... th-cam.com/video/SPEYFGPMRjo/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, can change the fps on the monitor?
Not as far as I can see, things like shooting modes needs to be set on the camera, at least with my FX3.
Hi I’m having trouble in connect my FX3 to the monitor the image is not mirroring any ideas? Would appreciate the help
Hi. So I’m assuming you have connected the HDMI cable for the video?
@@PaulJoy I have hdmi to hdmi
And the hdmi monitor shows nothing?
How did you get your third line guides to be black? I don’t have a black option on mine.
I'm not sure, maybe they changed it in firmware. I will check it out next time I'm using it.
@@PaulJoy I’ve heard mixed reviews on the firmware updates so I haven’t done any updates to mine.
Can you playback on this monitor with the fx3. It won’t let me from my camera…..
Yes, what’s happening when you try to playback a clip?
@@PaulJoy ahhh I figured it out! Thank you :)
@Lucaviifilm what was the solution? I cant playback. My camera (fx30) says its in PC mode. Please help
I can’t figure out or if it is possible to send 4K log in Flexible ISO mode out the HDMI port of FX3 while recording to the internal SD card of the FX3?
No it’s not. The only way to do that is to turn of log mode and create a picture profile using slog instead.
@@PaulJoy oh ok THX!! Is there any video quality dis-advantage to doing this? Or better question what’s the difference between PP log & Flexible ISO, if any?
@@aleckinch1199 I think the finished files should be the same. I've not shot using picture profiles since the implementation of Cine EI so I can't say so from experience so def try it out. You may not be able to use the LUT display in the same way you can with actual Log mode.
I just got my monitor today and I’m not able to screw in the antenna to the back of the unit. Did your monitor come with antenna already attached to the monitor?
Hi Seth. No I screwed mine in, it was a bit fiddly but went on easy enough.
@@PaulJoy Thanks I finally got it in but I’m waiting for the firmware update because I’m having issues with the Z Cam menu.
Hi paul , I have a fx30 and a portkey monitor but when I use phantom luts on the monitor it looks so dark, what setting should I do could you please help me?
Hi there. I'm really not sure, as far as I can recall the phantom luts don't push down exposure. Do they do the same thing on the camera itself or in post?
@@PaulJoy Thanks for your reply Paul but , fixed the issue.:) yes you have to adjust some minor adjustments in post , and it works great.
My display doesn't fill the entire screen, black bars from my fx30, any ideas?
If you have HDMI Info Display set to Off on your FX3 (Setup > 11 External Output), it will fill the screen, but you'll lose the default FX3 info which is what causes the black bars on the sides.
If you're like me and you want to be able to see the default camera display on the Portkeys, I've discovered a workaround. Turn HDMI Info Display to On. Then to get rid of the black bars, turn on Rectangle Crop on the Portkeys and change the values to the following:
12% X Start
12% Y Start
76% Wide
76% Height
To be able to quickly change between FX3 info with black bars to full screen without FX3 info, I assigned the Rectangle Crop function to my F1 button.
Hope this helps!
LH5P Version 1 vs Version 2? Version 2 seems not to be available in Europe as of now.
Version 2 is certainly available in the UK, I'm not sure about the rest of Europe... geni.us/33hVF
That’s because it just came out - I contacted portkeys support - if you check today it should be available (I’m from Germany, so EU works, as of typing this comment)
Awesome. But all your pictures show it connected via cable. Can we operate it wirelessly from 5 meters away with no cables?
It’s an HDMI monitor with wireless camera controls. The video signal requires the cable.
my firmware update won't even open. having issues with the .bin file
I hope you got it sorted.
I have fx3 and will it support 4k 60fps shooting?
No, it only supports up to 4K 30. You can shoot in 4K 60 and feed the monitor with HD signal though.
Does the touch focus so slow or is you camera settings?
You can define the speed in the camera settings.
im wanting to be able to do touch focus. i have the multi cable but it doesnt display anything that allows me to do touch screen focus on the monitor? is this maybe a firmware problem?
I've noticed that you need to be in a spot focus zone for it to work, give that a try and see if it helps.
@@PaulJoy I thought focus tracking was supposed to work? I don't see any difference in the options that are on screen with the multi cable other than record start/stop.
@@paulmasonmiller focus tracking does work, as can be seen in the video. In order to select an object to track you need the camera to to be in a spot focus zone though.
@@PaulJoy I understand that. I am in spot focus mode on the camera and I am able to track focus using the camera's touch screen but not on the Portkeys monitor.There isn't even a menu option for focus. I can only hit the focus icon on the bottom and it will do a general autofocus but no tracking or even touch focus. To be clear I am using the sony control cable not wifi. I, like others see no option to pair with wifi. I have a brand new fx3 as well as portkey monitor. The FX3 menu in your video looks different so I am wondering if you have an older version of wither FX3 or Portkeys monitor?
Hi wondering if u have any signal cur out issue when u hit playback button on fx3 paired up with portkeys monitor? thanks
Can you give me an idea of what you mean by signal cut out? The fx3 always blanks out the on screen display when you go to playback using an hdmi monitor.
@@PaulJoy yea that’s what I am saying that when you go to playback on ur fx3, will the monitor’s signal got cut out for few seconds and pop up the signal back again? Or it is not affecting the monitor at all
@@wayneyudp I haven’t noticed any change but I’ll check when I’m back with the camera.
@@PaulJoy awesome thanks
@@wayneyudp I just tried it and it seems to work the same way it always did. If you press the playback button with an hdmi monitor attached the on camera screen turns off, the external monitor goes blank for a moment (no output) and then it shows the playback screen.
Good morning
I have an LH5p II monitor and a Sony A7sIII
When using to record video all ok.
But when I go to take pictures with the Wifi on.
The camera keeps recording a photo on the camera's internal SSD for several minutes, crashing the entire system.
When I turn off the Wifi on the monitor everything goes back to normal.
It seems that the camera wants to record the photos on the monitor and cannot.
Anyone else with this problem?
thanks
I’ve never tried to use the external monitor for stills but there is an option in the network settings where you can choose to save images to the camera or external device. Maybe try that.
Great video! I have the Sony FX3 and also the A7IV and I want this monitor. Noticing some differences in the way B&H and Amazon sell this same monitor. Need some advice from people who have purchased this monitor.
B&H sells multiple different versions of this monitor? This implies that you need a specific version of this monitor to be compatible with your specific brand of camera and it's not in stock for Sony cameras either so you must wait 2-4 weeks for it. The same exact make and model monitor is advertised as in stock on Amazon for the same price but it says that their single advertised model is: "Compatible with Canon, Sony, Panasonic, BMPCC, ZCam and Gimbals." Can't find the reasoning for this on either website or the web. Can someone smarter than me please help me figure this out??????????????
You can buy versions with specific cables for cameras. I think the monitor itself is the same.
@@PaulJoy Thx Paul! Merry Christmas sir!
A7IV: connecting wifi via smartphone interface isn't as reliable as connecting wifi via PC remote interface (and I wish I knew why they were different!). If connecting via smartphone interface, turning off the monitor, or camera, means usually reinitialising the wifi connection on the camera. But connecting the A7IV via the PC remote interface is far better: I can turn off the monitor, or camera, or both, and reliably get a wifi connection again once they are on.
Now I really want to know how to _remove_ a saved wifi connection on the monitor, so I have only one listed under "My Device". Any ideas?
ps. hugely helpful video, thanks very much for putting it here for us.
Sony WiFi connection is like voodoo magic sometimes, I wish I could give you a definitive answer but I generally prefer using the PC connection too. I find that whenever I try to use it when not under pressure it works easily however on a job with the client watching it rarely works as it should lol.
I think you can remove a device by swiping it up, give that a try.
@@PaulJoy I wrote Portkeys through their website about PC remote vs. smartphone connection, and they said: "I have forwarded this to the technician. We're going to test that out." What I don't understand is their explicit instructions to disable PC Remote (I didn't fully RTFM, which is why I tried PC Remote :-) )
And you're right: swiping up gets rid of connected wifi devices (thanks for the tip).
Wow the gems are always in the comments. Switching to the PC remote interface has made the wifi connection crazy stable now.
@@alfieboy4022 glad i could help! Haven't heard back from Portrays on this, by the way (LOL).
Thanks for you video. I followed almost all your reviews.
A qq. I am in the market to buy monitor for my automotive videography.
Should i go for
- Portkeys LH5p ii
- Ninja Atmos 5 / 5+
thanks in advance !
I answered this in the LH7P Review
Hi Paul, great video but for some reason my spot focus button is not displaying on the Lh5P ii monitor and i can't use this function. I am also using an FX3 and it is wirelessly connected as instructed in the video, i have all the other functions available but not touch/track focus?! Has anyone else encountered this problem? Without it i can't use the touch focus on the monitor which was the reason for buying it
Try setting the focus zone to a spot mode and see if that helps.
@@PaulJoy Hey Paul, tried that and it didn't work. Still no touch focus/track focus option! It makes no sense these are the exact same products set up in the exact same way??
@@sourcematerialmedia4479 Okay. What firmware are you running on the FX3 and Portkeys, I'll set mine up again and see if mine still works as I haven't used it in a few weeks now.
@@PaulJoy Hey Paul I updated the FX3 firmware from version 1 to version 2 and still no luck, everything else works fine apart from the touch/track focus feature, the icon/button for it to the left of AF/MF literally isn't even there?
Would the HDMI cable I'm using make any difference? I've tried two standard HDMI cables now but with no luck
Would you prefer this or the Ninja V?
I prefer this as a monitor, but Ninja V cam record ProRes and this can’t record at all. So it depends if I want to record externally really.
Becareful, i bought it, when i change the brightness, contrast, color of this monitor and i switch on the waveform or the zebra, the LH5PII switch of my parameter. I think it’s a really bad thing and really unconfortable. I could resolve it with a personnalise 3D LUT
Thanks for your video
Just to be sure, your saying the waveform and zebras reset those settings?
How bad is the fan noise?
Not bad at all, it's much quieter than a Ninja v for example
The new update has to make this the main Sony monitor to get today!?
I'll be taking a look at that soon, watch this space.
Battery life is kind of lame. That definitely should be on there.
It will depend on brightness, I’ve found with brightness around 5 the battery life is pretty good!
@@PaulJoy sure I just mean I wish they included the battery life meter
@@lionbeatscobra Oh, yea totally!
FIX LH5PII PROBLEMS!! This monitor does not work with Sony fx3 firmware v2.00 Wifi does not see the camera when the phone sees it. Disgusting monitor update support. Firmware LH5P-V.3.05.05.C20.B27. I bought a monitor for normal work with focusing - now it is not available due to irregular updates. There were 3 hot pixels out of the box. The quality and attitude to the consumer is not clear. I hope that at least the firmware will be corrected.
Sorry to hear about your issues. I'm running v2.02 on my FX3 and it works fine with the LH5pII so there must be something else going on with your setup. Best of luck getting it sorted.
$400 for a device like this? I prefer to pay $4 to get a USB-C TO HDMI by using a cable to connect to camera. Then download an app, DSRL controller to tablet. Work great with me.
Depends what phone you have I guess, it’s not so great on my old iPhone X :)