Back when this came out I was a bouncer at a nightclub. Our sound tech brought his 360, hooked this up to the sound system, and projector. We sat on the stage and played. Good times.
I'm from Mexico, Mexico City that is, and it was pretty funny watching the news when the governor or mayor -can't remember exactly- of Ciudad Juarez banned the game (I think the second installment -writing this before even watching the video as I am "on the clock"- as it "portrayed them" in a bad light, when in fact, the setting was probably the most authentic thing of the whole story XD
hahaha this boy Reyes Ferris was Juarez Mayor and hi say that... saddly GRAW its not than violent compare it with real Mexico, specially zones as Michoacan, State of Mexico, Sinaloa, Juarez on that time or Tamaulipas (i saddly remember all the corpses hanged on bridges since Calderon Goverment or the warzone its now Michoacan)
Is it the cartels and collusion with the government? I hear Mexico will be hard won when the citizenry rises up to take their cities back. ... Y'all should've never handed in your guns!
@@12ealDealOfficial Oh please, don't say that fucking argument that assholes pro second enmendment says, when literally fucking gunshows arm Narcos, even if weapons were completely Legal here, many mexicans doesnt earned enough money to buy an AK or a Barret .50 cal, literally minimum wage it's 10 USD per day
@@12ealDealOfficial preaching to the choir here. I am right winger and most left wingers I know all acknowledge and endorse the use of guns. Actually, I cannot remember anyone who wouldn't be happy to able to get rid of the everyday vermin that terrorises our cities on a daily basis; the only ones who are against it, are the elites. Mainly the government, the media, and entertainment industry. All those who have security details fully-loaded, unsurprisingly. Edit: my comment was all over the place and there was a mistake that might've misconstrued its intention.
@@davuvnik Please keep defending Narcos can get Assault Rifles and Military Grade Equipment from Loopholes on USA or even receive it as GIFTS from ATF by gunwalking.
They really were. It was also the only video game my dad would play. I was really sad when he asked me if people were still playing it last year because he wanted to play it online. I had to tell him its been over a decade and the playerbase are either too small or moved on.
I was literally scouring the umbral plains of TH-cam fruitlessly for any semblance of a proper "review" for these two games (PC versions)... and here you grace me with your eternal presence, only a week later. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Yeah same, for some reason this game came from my darkest parts of my brain recently and I went to look for some reviews of this game too, but could find something good
“The game just doesn’t like you…but don’t worry I do.” You’re just trying to get closer to me to get to my mom again. Not gettin SCHWACKED this time Ozzy boy.
@UCmwvxxAu_hhOTDDNaNvjXJg ok and who are you? A nobody in a youtube comment section talking trash about a video he clicked like a prepubescent child Just fuck off to obscurity you loser
I actually still enjoyed playing the old 360 games. Especially playing them now through backwards compatibility and the frame rates being bumped up to 60 really makes the game feel much more fluid. They're a product of their time. I found them highly enjoyable and I still do, especially now that I can play with my boys.
You and me both. Recently I tried to play my 360 W40k:Space Marine copy, but it's UNFORGIVABLY unsupported. If a sequel ever gets made I'll forgive and still not forgive.
Aside from the desaturated visuals in a lot of that generation's games, I still generally find them more inspired compared to the current and previous gen's titles. I think the height of gaming was PS1/PS2 and Xbox, but we were still at the top of the slope for 360 and PS3.
You can access different fire modes (and the SCAR's grenade launcher) on 360 by holding A to bring up a submenu. This is mostly useful with scoped weapons because of the odd way the game handles accuracy when aiming over the shoulder. You can access one arbitrarily chosen soldier's helmet cam by holding right bumper to help give orders in places you don't have line of sight to without pulling up the map
I remember using this really OP sniper on the 360 version to blow up tanks and APCs with approximately 3 shots. My brother and I used to play hours of the game mode where you defend a location from endless waves of canon fodder.
Despite a lot of flaws, I really like GRAW 2 on PC, and the detailed reload animations still amazes me, you have the common empty gun, not empty gun and a third one when you fire the bullet in the chamber during a reload, wich changes all the animation. Also, belt feed guns has some minor details depending of the amount of rounds left in the belt.
@@Tom-zc9gs I made a video some time ago showing all the animations, it changes even when you only have one bullet on the MG, where the guy picks it and throws away. th-cam.com/video/pGUAUiuLRmk/w-d-xo.html
The early days/years of the 360 were magical and hold a special in my heart for me and I still find myself playing plenty of games from that time on my series x
GRAW 2 on PC was amazing - Honestly my first foray into tactical shooters, and I actually kinda like the insanely hard difficulty with aimbot AI - Fast forward to years spent playing ARMAIII, Squad, and Escape from Tarkov, and I can honestly thank GRAW 2 for setting me on this journey.
17:25 What orders!? In modern GR games all you can do is tell them to follow you, move in a general area, hold fire or assault... and that's always issued to all of them which severely reduces your tactical options even more. You can't order one person to cover an area or anything of the sort. They're dumb (and so are the enemies) but since you can never give them more elaborate orders and the game cheats by making them able to withstand a lot of damage they look more competent that they really are.
By modern I assume that you're talking about ghost recon breakpoint? I agree, I'd like to see a better command and tacitical orders system return in the next ghost recon, I also want a linear mission structure again and ubisoft should make advanced warfighter 3 or future soldier 2. Also like so many fans have requested, i'd like a new splinter cell as well as a return to the old school ac games. Sadly, with how ubisoft is now, they do not fucking listen to our requests and wants do they?
Ramirez is actually a rly underrated character in GR lore. On 360/PC he’s the only guy badass enough to do his own lone wolf missions (meeting him in the train yard first mission) or on PS2/Xbox he’s the only guy badass enough to be alongside michell Then in future soldier he’s the guy who finds the bomb in the opening mission. He gets blown up and hangs onto a cliff w what’s likely broken ribs and arms as phosphorous melts his body and he still hangs in there for like 5-10 seconds. RIP Ramirez 🫡
I remember playing both GRAW 1&2 and remember them being so fun for it’s time. Future Soldier was probably my favourite Ghost Recon and personally upset with the route they have taken with the more recent games.
What really blew me away back in the day on the 360 was the audio, specifically sound travel. While nowhere on the level of something like Hunt: Showdown, it was still really impressive to see something blow up in the distance, and two seconds later you'd hear the muffled rumble of the explosion.
Actually on the xbox/ps2 version they give u the option to go after carlos and even save bravo team you can do both, one or the other, or neither. Dialogue changes depending on your decisions which i really like
They say OG xbox version was way different from PS2 version but i love the PC version the most, it was a tactical game to a point not a run and gun shooter
Fun fact: The PC-developer GRIN comprises mostly of developers who went on to form OVERKILL, making the Payday-games. GRAW 1 and 2 even runs on the Diesel engine - the same engine used for Payday 1 and 2.
I remember having so much fun playing this game as a kid when I had a 360. In fact, I enjoy it so much I would keep replaying the story because just the way the combat and everything was set up I enjoyed it everytime. Im thinking about getting another 360. There was a lot of games that I enjoyed playing when I was younger.
Finally someone speaks out about the greatest gaming duology of all time. Iconic games that will never be equalled, and beloved by those who played them with true loyalty
GRAW 1 and 2 were exactly what was needed in the early days of Xbox 360. You had a full campaign that didn't feel tacked on. The graphics (especially the explosions) at the time were very impressive. You had lots of customization options for multiplayer, and even the PVE was fun. I loved getting a team of 16 people (12 in GRAW 1) and taking on co-op campaign missions, no drones, no respawns. That was super intense. Idk if anyone remembers that one achievement in GRAW 1 where you had to survive for 1 hour in PVE. It sounds fairly easy with 12 people but with ammo becoming a problem as you progress, it was one of the most fun achievements ever on XBL.
I'd like to see a video for the other Ghost Recon games, especially GR 2: Summit Strike. I have literally never gotten past the first level in all my years of trying.
The AI was bad on PC, no doubt. And now that someone mentions it the enemy attack chopper was quite unrealistic. But since I come from the original Ghost Recon games I still prefer the PC versions and am sad that they didn't pursue the hardcore shooter part more. Kinda feels like GRAW/GRAW2 different games on different consoles were experiments to see where the money is and then Future Soldier took that route with other ways forgotten. I am subjectively repelled by the 360 versions with their third person shooters. They feel too arcadey for a hardcore shooter fan like me who came from the realistic originals. The minigun railshooting parts on the 360 versions, I admit, are fun as hell, but when someone like me looks at them for too long I get repelled by the unreal part of it as soon as the fun level drops even a fraction. And a fraction for me is anything that takes too long or any second playthrough. Also I find the PC gun sounds quite good. Especially the sound and rate of fire of the .50 cal, very rarely do games get that right, now if it only had some more destruction like that one scene from the Rambo movie.
I forgot how Graw was so divisive back then in the gr community, I still play heroes unleashed sometimes but the graw games were great games too. Shame because we don't get anything like either of these games anymore Also the MP was alot more realistic, you probably would like the co op
@@Contentrist You can subjectively disagree all you want, it just makes you objectively wrong. The 360 games nailed the core aspects of a GR game without getting bogged down by crap the PC versions did.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 There is nothing objective about art like video games. Sure the 360 version of GRAW turned you on more with its better pacing and overall casual enjoyability. However the PC version of GRAW turned me on with its hardcore tactical shooter elements. And the stuff that bogged you down immersed me into the game. For me the core aspects of the game were the "crap" PC versions did. While being one-shotted from an unknown location, which it takes the player maybe 3 deaths to figure out where, is not fun for the majority, for me it's a feature that immerses me into the simulated reality of the game.
Random trivia: In the movie Disturbia, there's a scene of Shia Labeouf under house arrest playing Ghost Recon AW "multiplayer" on Xbox 360 and yelling callouts to his team. I don't know why I remembered that now 15 years later lol.
I just bought these to play for the first time, I remembered my friends having it when I was younger on 360, I figured the PC version would be the best version... It isn't lol. It really is a tediously brutal game. Thanks Gman for doing a review of these games in their different versions now we know.
I play these games from time to time. Just play single player, and I enjoy the combat for one thing. Yeah, you can get insta-killed, but (reasonably) at close quarters. At farther away, you can take multiple shots before going down, giving you a damn good reason to take cover. This is perhaps how combat should be in future Ghost Recon games, in my personal opinion.
I absolutely love the PC versions, maybe because I'm a masochistic tactical shooter junkie who hasn't had his fix since fucking 2010, but I tend to micromanage the friendlies through the tactical map, which resolves... most... of their problems. And if I imagine the friendlies are privates from my old unit, then their stupidity fits right in!
I remember playing the demo for GRAW on the 360 at Target (lol remember when stores used to do this?) and being blown away by the graphics and immersion. Still pretty impressive to this day, all things considered
The target where i live still lets you play demos, have good memories of going there when my mom had errands and just sitting in the game aisle with employees giving me weird looks
Advance Warfighter 2 was one of the first games my family got for our PS3 back in 2008 when they got the console for Christmas alongside Mirror's Edge so it's a cool nostalgia trip to see you talking about it
I would have to disagree with the commentator as I played GRAW 1 and 2 on my 360 back when they first came out and now play it on PC and I thoroughly enjoy it by far on PC. The inane chatter of your teammates on the console version was so irritating and it could not be turned off like it can on PC. I could only stand their whiney "I can't go there!" so childish (not to mention their voices sounded like teenagers whining) that I could only play a little at a time. As he said, the PC version is much more of a strategic shooter requiring thinking. Yes, the AI teammates are dumb, but they have also saved my skin on more than one occasion by spotting and killing enemy that I didn't see. I also found that simply telling them to move elsewhere nearby eleminated pathfinding issues. I do agree that GRAW 2 is better than GRAW 1 but after playing a lot of Wildlands on both Xbox 1 and PC, I don't consider the modern versions of GR to even BE Ghost Recon games. Their just games.
Cpt Scott Mitchell isn't a generic name for the character, he's a main character in the series still, and is Nomad's commanding officer as Col Mitchell in both Wildlands and Breakpoint. On the note of the x360 version, it's really a crime PC never got a port at the least.
Wanted was a pretty decently fun game actually and Terminator Salvation has gotten favorable reviews. Think you were a little hard on Grin bro. Also I remember them as the developers of Bandits: Phoenix Rising, which I HIGHLY enjoyed as a kid.
GRAW 2 was the first game I ever got for my Xbox 360 and I remember being blown away by those visuals! It's crazy to see how much better games looked by the end of that console cycle!
GRAW on the 360 was the second M game i ever played following halo 3. this is my first exposure since i was like 8, the car alarm sfx really got the nostalgia flowing. i played the coop allll the time with my little brother, good times
Thank you for the trip down memory lane! I loved GRAW 2, and played it on PC. I remember there was a mods workshop of sorts where you could download and play player created scenarios. It was awesome!
@@trobriandstorm Yeah, if I were you don't bother, since its still full of bugs and Jon Bernthal's character was done dirty, he was supposed to be a great villain but fell flat due to Ubisoft's shitty writing.
As a GRAW2 PC online multiplayer enthusiast, I mourned the decline of the servers. Only the diehards were left in the end and there were some very hard fought battles in those maps. My tag was GunKnight
Ubisoft were really the only ones who consistently did this, look at splinter cell DA V1 and V2 or Rainbow six 3 on ps2 vs xbox then PC. Or Driver 3 on 360 vs wii
@@happy5642642 and why not just have both studios work on the same project. twice the man power. Especially with how much more it takes to develop games these days. Or just have them work on something else entirely. It not like pc and console are that different. it was mostly done then mostly out of necessity. If you really want that hyper precise aim on console you could plug in a keyboard and mouse. You could do it in cs go on the ps3. if a games is built properly platform shouldn’t matter.
I also died again and again on multiple playthroughs in that part on the prologue where your shoot the armored vehicle with the rocket. I always hit that damn low wall I’m glad you showed that
Man the graphics for this were so impressive for its time. Not so much the detail of individual models & textures - but the lighting, colour, contrast, particle effects, with the game's scale, and a lot of amazingly smooth animation work. The sound really sold it too, everything's so punchy & meaty, and the score is great.
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter was the first game I got for my XBOX 360. My second was PGR 3. And soon after I got Gears of War. I'd like to play the PC version. Especially if it is as open as you described. Another game of this type would be appreciated. Either a Ghost Recon or a Socom game, or a game with more tactical mechanics than what's available in today's market. I miss these types of games. I've just got Socom for my PS2. And I will play it after I beat GTA: San Andreas.
This was one the first 360 games I got, I sucked cuz I was a kid but I loved it. Me and my bros played the multiplayer all the time, especially the coop
Brooo the fkn memories of playing this game on Xbox 360 with my best mate and all his cousins was so fun tbvh, taking turns doing 1 v 1 split screen with whole 6 of us, looking back it’s crazy how patient we was for our turn. 😂😂😂
Great video. At the time I had seen reviews that the pc version was better that made me wish I played that version. Now I feel much better. Wish Ghost recon can come back to these days.
I accidentally managed to purchase all three versions of the first GRAW. It's one of the most enjoyable GR games in my opinion and I prefer the PC version but the 360 version is a must play as well. I used to love the PvE missions in multiplayer. I think what makes GRAW so great is how imaginative and immersive they got with the speculative technology: The HUD is more than just an information display, the weapons felt like they were on the edge of invention for the time (they are very real today), and the use of the map had something realistic about it that made it loveable.
You need to cover Socom: US Navy Seals 1, 2 and 3 and Socom: Combined Assault. Superb franchise. Also the Conflict series, like Desert Storm 1 and 2 and Vietnam.
I remember being absolutely mind blown by Advanced Warfighter on Xbox when it came out. It was one of my favorite games when it came out and played it religiously. Along with Ghost Recon 2 as well
I desperately want that fucking outro tune played at my funeral and everyone can stand dancing like South Park goths i would fucking love that, mad rep bruh love the channel too much
Fun fact, the developers for the PC version went on to start Overkill and develop Payday The Heist and Payday 2. GRAW and both Payday games run on the same engine.
Thank you for answering one of my longtime requests. I'm not naive enough to think I was the one behind this, but I'm so glad you covered the 360 versions... They're full of nostalgia for me
In the first GRAW on the final mission of the xbox original version. There was an alternative version to the "He got away" ending. If you bullhorned through the enemies fast enough, you'd get to shoot the man in the back just before he climbed a ladder out of a tunnel that results in the "got away" ending. It was a high risk reward, my brother and I would do it in 2 player co-op through that mission.
The GRAW multi-player demo was the first online multi-player game I ever played... haha I was a little kid with a 360 he got for his birthday but no games. I met so many cool ass people on there. Good times😂
Tx for this upload, I have a lot of fond memories of this game -- especially the door gunner parts. Felt like you were dropped into an action movie. Think I'll revisit this bad boy again.
I really enjoyed both of these games. They’re not groundbreaking, but they’re fun squad shooters. Actually now that I think about it I think I only played GRAW 2, but again it was a fun game.
Fun Fact: GRIN is the developer behind Bionic Commando: Rearmed and the questionable reboot before they did Wanted and Terminator: Salvation. They went out of business but then reformed as Overkill and went onto create the Payday series and the rest is history.
I played both of these on the 360 and I have to say I enjoyed them but I wouldn't play them for their story that's for sure but for gameplay I did enjoy them I like how you give a good and honest review
I remember hiring the Xbox version from blockbuster and thought it was ok. But then played it on Xbox 360 and absolutely loved it. This video brought back great memories
Back when this came out I was a bouncer at a nightclub. Our sound tech brought his 360, hooked this up to the sound system, and projector. We sat on the stage and played. Good times.
Maybe someone u bounce just wanna come in and play with you
so I assume ure in your late 30s or early 40s
Ooo.
Remind my freshmen years of community college when class was cancelled someone brought a special edition Xbox 360 and we played the hell out of that.
Fitting upvote number. Cant mess with that. Good times indeed.
Shout outs to GRAW2 for having that achievement that required you to be #1 on the global leaderboard. That's a true achievement if I even saw one.
too bad it's simply about grind, would be much fun if you needed to be in top of trueskill rating or something.
I'm from Mexico, Mexico City that is, and it was pretty funny watching the news when the governor or mayor -can't remember exactly- of Ciudad Juarez banned the game (I think the second installment -writing this before even watching the video as I am "on the clock"- as it "portrayed them" in a bad light, when in fact, the setting was probably the most authentic thing of the whole story XD
hahaha this boy Reyes Ferris was Juarez Mayor and hi say that... saddly GRAW its not than violent compare it with real Mexico, specially zones as Michoacan, State of Mexico, Sinaloa, Juarez on that time or Tamaulipas (i saddly remember all the corpses hanged on bridges since Calderon Goverment or the warzone its now Michoacan)
Is it the cartels and collusion with the government? I hear Mexico will be hard won when the citizenry rises up to take their cities back.
... Y'all should've never handed in your guns!
@@12ealDealOfficial Oh please, don't say that fucking argument that assholes pro second enmendment says, when literally fucking gunshows arm Narcos, even if weapons were completely Legal here, many mexicans doesnt earned enough money to buy an AK or a Barret .50 cal, literally minimum wage it's 10 USD per day
@@12ealDealOfficial preaching to the choir here. I am right winger and most left wingers I know all acknowledge and endorse the use of guns.
Actually, I cannot remember anyone who wouldn't be happy to able to get rid of the everyday vermin that terrorises our cities on a daily basis; the only ones who are against it, are the elites. Mainly the government, the media, and entertainment industry. All those who have security details fully-loaded, unsurprisingly.
Edit: my comment was all over the place and there was a mistake that might've misconstrued its intention.
@@davuvnik Please keep defending Narcos can get Assault Rifles and Military Grade Equipment from Loopholes on USA or even receive it as GIFTS from ATF by gunwalking.
The X360 versions of GRAW and GRAW2 were among my favourite games from that generation. They were so good!
Agreed. The best entries in the entire franchise
i have fond memories of graw 2. too bad the co op was completely dfferent from the main game (made by different people too?)
Of All Time for me best Console generation next to Series X gen
They really were. It was also the only video game my dad would play. I was really sad when he asked me if people were still playing it last year because he wanted to play it online. I had to tell him its been over a decade and the playerbase are either too small or moved on.
Those game knew how to do DLC. Some of those CO-OP missions were amazing
I was literally scouring the umbral plains of TH-cam fruitlessly for any semblance of a proper "review" for these two games (PC versions)... and here you grace me with your eternal presence, only a week later. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Woah, same here too bhai
Yeah same, for some reason this game came from my darkest parts of my brain recently and I went to look for some reviews of this game too, but could find something good
I doubt anyone still plays it but I grew up on GRAW 2 multiplayer (on pc) and it was awesome. Never even touched the campaign
Cool long words, bro 👍
@@KillaGandhi You failed at least 2 grades in elementary school, Guaranteed.
“The game just doesn’t like you…but don’t worry I do.”
You’re just trying to get closer to me to get to my mom again. Not gettin SCHWACKED this time Ozzy boy.
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Wtf is a mom ???? He’s after that sweet mum heat
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He'll treat her right, what are you afraid of
This franchise didn't need to go open world. It was fine the way it was.
definitely.
Ubi uses big open worlds filled with fetch quets to stretch the game time.
I liked wildlands but I'd rather have had it as a new franchise while we got another game while PC graw.
@UCmwvxxAu_hhOTDDNaNvjXJg ok and who are you? A nobody in a youtube comment section talking trash about a video he clicked like a prepubescent child
Just fuck off to obscurity you loser
@@sholva6809 Wildlands is decent. But if you think the older titles are trash then you greatly misunderstand the franchise.
The enemies in these games are among the most lethal in video games. It really keeps you on your toes.
Especially on elevated difficulty the bullet sound effects were too realistic
I actually still enjoyed playing the old 360 games. Especially playing them now through backwards compatibility and the frame rates being bumped up to 60 really makes the game feel much more fluid. They're a product of their time. I found them highly enjoyable and I still do, especially now that I can play with my boys.
You and me both. Recently I tried to play my 360 W40k:Space Marine copy, but it's UNFORGIVABLY unsupported. If a sequel ever gets made I'll forgive and still not forgive.
GRAW1 was very interesting on 360, look forward to trying 2. I got both on sale recently for $4 ea.
They play great on Xbox One. Glad I picked up both of them as well as Future Soldier for next to nothing awhile back.
Rainbow 6 vegas is one of my all time favourite shooters. Especially as a two player on the death house map.
Aside from the desaturated visuals in a lot of that generation's games, I still generally find them more inspired compared to the current and previous gen's titles. I think the height of gaming was PS1/PS2 and Xbox, but we were still at the top of the slope for 360 and PS3.
You can access different fire modes (and the SCAR's grenade launcher) on 360 by holding A to bring up a submenu. This is mostly useful with scoped weapons because of the odd way the game handles accuracy when aiming over the shoulder. You can access one arbitrarily chosen soldier's helmet cam by holding right bumper to help give orders in places you don't have line of sight to without pulling up the map
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It's the little additions like those that when learned makes the game smoother and way more enjoyable.
Part 2 launcher was a ripper would shoot it in to the background see it hit beautiful
I remember using this really OP sniper on the 360 version to blow up tanks and APCs with approximately 3 shots. My brother and I used to play hours of the game mode where you defend a location from endless waves of canon fodder.
bullshit. What was the sniper called?
@@jacobrobinson787 I think it could've been the M107. but this was years ago
I remember finding that sniper rifle by accident in the multiplayer I think.
Despite a lot of flaws, I really like GRAW 2 on PC, and the detailed reload animations still amazes me, you have the common empty gun, not empty gun and a third one when you fire the bullet in the chamber during a reload, wich changes all the animation.
Also, belt feed guns has some minor details depending of the amount of rounds left in the belt.
The MG one with the partial belt hanging from the feed tray... it gets thrown off when reloading. Haven't seen that in any other game
@@Tom-zc9gs I made a video some time ago showing all the animations, it changes even when you only have one bullet on the MG, where the guy picks it and throws away.
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Yeah, I remember this was big deal when GRIN-SE did that because literally no other shooters bothered with that.
Do you know if there's anyway to buy it on PC now because I can't find it anywhere.
@@swiss8988 Unfortunately only through piracy.
The early days/years of the 360 were magical and hold a special in my heart for me and I still find myself playing plenty of games from that time on my series x
Oblivion and Need for Speed Most Wanted are still special to me.
GRAW series, Vegas series, Gears of War, L4d series, and xbox live was in it's prime. Favorite generation in my 30 years of gaming.
This is a blast from the past. The GRAW series were some of the very first games I played on 360 when it was still relatively new
GRAW 2 on PC was amazing - Honestly my first foray into tactical shooters, and I actually kinda like the insanely hard difficulty with aimbot AI - Fast forward to years spent playing ARMAIII, Squad, and Escape from Tarkov, and I can honestly thank GRAW 2 for setting me on this journey.
17:25
What orders!? In modern GR games all you can do is tell them to follow you, move in a general area, hold fire or assault... and that's always issued to all of them which severely reduces your tactical options even more. You can't order one person to cover an area or anything of the sort. They're dumb (and so are the enemies) but since you can never give them more elaborate orders and the game cheats by making them able to withstand a lot of damage they look more competent that they really are.
By modern I assume that you're talking about ghost recon breakpoint? I agree, I'd like to see a better command and tacitical orders system return in the next ghost recon, I also want a linear mission structure again and ubisoft should make advanced warfighter 3 or future soldier 2. Also like so many fans have requested, i'd like a new splinter cell as well as a return to the old school ac games. Sadly, with how ubisoft is now, they do not fucking listen to our requests and wants do they?
@@danielmoung9098 Yup.
And trust me... you don't want a new SC game. Not one made by modern day Ubisoft.
@@HellKnightX88 agreed, mate, agreed.
Not to mention being able to synch shot enemies in vehicles and on the other side of a base
@@danielmoung9098 sorry bro, lokks like they are maiing a battle royale. There is always next time
Ramirez is actually a rly underrated character in GR lore. On 360/PC he’s the only guy badass enough to do his own lone wolf missions (meeting him in the train yard first mission) or on PS2/Xbox he’s the only guy badass enough to be alongside michell
Then in future soldier he’s the guy who finds the bomb in the opening mission. He gets blown up and hangs onto a cliff w what’s likely broken ribs and arms as phosphorous melts his body and he still hangs in there for like 5-10 seconds.
RIP Ramirez 🫡
I remember playing both GRAW 1&2 and remember them being so fun for it’s time. Future Soldier was probably my favourite Ghost Recon and personally upset with the route they have taken with the more recent games.
What really blew me away back in the day on the 360 was the audio, specifically sound travel. While nowhere on the level of something like Hunt: Showdown, it was still really impressive to see something blow up in the distance, and two seconds later you'd hear the muffled rumble of the explosion.
Actually on the xbox/ps2 version they give u the option to go after carlos and even save bravo team you can do both, one or the other, or neither. Dialogue changes depending on your decisions which i really like
They say OG xbox version was way different from PS2 version but i love the PC version the most, it was a tactical game to a point not a run and gun shooter
Fun fact: The PC-developer GRIN comprises mostly of developers who went on to form OVERKILL, making the Payday-games. GRAW 1 and 2 even runs on the Diesel engine - the same engine used for Payday 1 and 2.
Love how certain key phrases can be found floating around other channels such as yours, Critical Drinker and PJW.
I remember having so much fun playing this game as a kid when I had a 360. In fact, I enjoy it so much I would keep replaying the story because just the way the combat and everything was set up I enjoyed it everytime. Im thinking about getting another 360. There was a lot of games that I enjoyed playing when I was younger.
Finally someone speaks out about the greatest gaming duology of all time. Iconic games that will never be equalled, and beloved by those who played them with true loyalty
Games slandered by haters 😤😤😤 but *true* fans remember and could never forget. My favourite games ever.
GRAW 1 and 2 were exactly what was needed in the early days of Xbox 360.
You had a full campaign that didn't feel tacked on. The graphics (especially the explosions) at the time were very impressive. You had lots of customization options for multiplayer, and even the PVE was fun.
I loved getting a team of 16 people (12 in GRAW 1) and taking on co-op campaign missions, no drones, no respawns. That was super intense.
Idk if anyone remembers that one achievement in GRAW 1 where you had to survive for 1 hour in PVE. It sounds fairly easy with 12 people but with ammo becoming a problem as you progress, it was one of the most fun achievements ever on XBL.
I'd like to see a video for the other Ghost Recon games, especially GR 2: Summit Strike. I have literally never gotten past the first level in all my years of trying.
He will if this video gets decent views, Summit Strike is pog
Wildlands deserves a Gman review too
@@kabardino1337 there is one already, my guy
Summit Strike is my favorite of all the GR games
man seeing the gameplay of this brings me back to being a kid. Nostalgia trip Forsure
The AI was bad on PC, no doubt. And now that someone mentions it the enemy attack chopper was quite unrealistic. But since I come from the original Ghost Recon games I still prefer the PC versions and am sad that they didn't pursue the hardcore shooter part more.
Kinda feels like GRAW/GRAW2 different games on different consoles were experiments to see where the money is and then Future Soldier took that route with other ways forgotten.
I am subjectively repelled by the 360 versions with their third person shooters. They feel too arcadey for a hardcore shooter fan like me who came from the realistic originals. The minigun railshooting parts on the 360 versions, I admit, are fun as hell, but when someone like me looks at them for too long I get repelled by the unreal part of it as soon as the fun level drops even a fraction. And a fraction for me is anything that takes too long or any second playthrough.
Also I find the PC gun sounds quite good. Especially the sound and rate of fire of the .50 cal, very rarely do games get that right, now if it only had some more destruction like that one scene from the Rambo movie.
I also come from the original Ghost Recon game.
The 360 version of GRAW is far superior
@@DeltaAssaultGaming I subjectively disagree and there is nothing you can do about it :D
I forgot how Graw was so divisive back then in the gr community, I still play heroes unleashed sometimes but the graw games were great games too. Shame because we don't get anything like either of these games anymore
Also the MP was alot more realistic, you probably would like the co op
@@Contentrist You can subjectively disagree all you want, it just makes you objectively wrong.
The 360 games nailed the core aspects of a GR game without getting bogged down by crap the PC versions did.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 There is nothing objective about art like video games. Sure the 360 version of GRAW turned you on more with its better pacing and overall casual enjoyability. However the PC version of GRAW turned me on with its hardcore tactical shooter elements. And the stuff that bogged you down immersed me into the game. For me the core aspects of the game were the "crap" PC versions did. While being one-shotted from an unknown location, which it takes the player maybe 3 deaths to figure out where, is not fun for the majority, for me it's a feature that immerses me into the simulated reality of the game.
Random trivia: In the movie Disturbia, there's a scene of Shia Labeouf under house arrest playing Ghost Recon AW "multiplayer" on Xbox 360 and yelling callouts to his team. I don't know why I remembered that now 15 years later lol.
I just bought these to play for the first time, I remembered my friends having it when I was younger on 360, I figured the PC version would be the best version... It isn't lol. It really is a tediously brutal game. Thanks Gman for doing a review of these games in their different versions now we know.
I play these games from time to time. Just play single player, and I enjoy the combat for one thing. Yeah, you can get insta-killed, but (reasonably) at close quarters. At farther away, you can take multiple shots before going down, giving you a damn good reason to take cover. This is perhaps how combat should be in future Ghost Recon games, in my personal opinion.
This is why I enjoyed NFS 3 on Xbox. It had that nice mix between feeling real, but also knowing where to be arcadey and fun.
The edited smiles on the characters in your thumbnails cracks me the fuck up every time.
I absolutely love the PC versions, maybe because I'm a masochistic tactical shooter junkie who hasn't had his fix since fucking 2010, but I tend to micromanage the friendlies through the tactical map, which resolves... most... of their problems. And if I imagine the friendlies are privates from my old unit, then their stupidity fits right in!
the mini screen that allowed you to see what teammates saw was brilliant
I remember playing the demo for GRAW on the 360 at Target (lol remember when stores used to do this?) and being blown away by the graphics and immersion. Still pretty impressive to this day, all things considered
I forgot about the stores letting u play demos back in the day.gamestop still does it sometimes
The target where i live still lets you play demos, have good memories of going there when my mom had errands and just sitting in the game aisle with employees giving me weird looks
To this day i don't think i've played a game with better sounding explosions than graw2
Advance Warfighter 2 was one of the first games my family got for our PS3 back in 2008 when they got the console for Christmas alongside Mirror's Edge so it's a cool nostalgia trip to see you talking about it
"Babysitting a bunch of kids" when talking about handling your squad is the biggest understatement I've ever heard
GRAW 1 was one of the first titles that really let you experience 'next gen'.
I would have to disagree with the commentator as I played GRAW 1 and 2 on my 360 back when they first came out and now play it on PC and I thoroughly enjoy it by far on PC. The inane chatter of your teammates on the console version was so irritating and it could not be turned off like it can on PC. I could only stand their whiney "I can't go there!" so childish (not to mention their voices sounded like teenagers whining) that I could only play a little at a time. As he said, the PC version is much more of a strategic shooter requiring thinking. Yes, the AI teammates are dumb, but they have also saved my skin on more than one occasion by spotting and killing enemy that I didn't see. I also found that simply telling them to move elsewhere nearby eleminated pathfinding issues. I do agree that GRAW 2 is better than GRAW 1 but after playing a lot of Wildlands on both Xbox 1 and PC, I don't consider the modern versions of GR to even BE Ghost Recon games. Their just games.
Cpt Scott Mitchell isn't a generic name for the character, he's a main character in the series still, and is Nomad's commanding officer as Col Mitchell in both Wildlands and Breakpoint.
On the note of the x360 version, it's really a crime PC never got a port at the least.
Yep. He's in the hawx universe too. The jetfighter game...
@@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn Yeah, HAWX takes place in the Ghost Recon Universe. In HAWX 2, you directly assist the Ghosts.
I thought about writing a review for graw2 a few months ago. Kinda glad you made this so I don't have to think about it anymore
Wow, hearing the name Scott Mitchell brought back so many memories of playing Endwar on my old 360
Wanted was a pretty decently fun game actually and Terminator Salvation has gotten favorable reviews. Think you were a little hard on Grin bro. Also I remember them as the developers of Bandits: Phoenix Rising, which I HIGHLY enjoyed as a kid.
Glad GManLives mentioned Tom Salter's epic score, I've actually ordered the 360 games today (can't beat physical media).
GRAW2 was my first game on Xbox 360 when I got it in 2008. Best memories of that time.
GRAW 2 was the first game I ever got for my Xbox 360 and I remember being blown away by those visuals! It's crazy to see how much better games looked by the end of that console cycle!
GRAW on the 360 was the second M game i ever played following halo 3. this is my first exposure since i was like 8, the car alarm sfx really got the nostalgia flowing. i played the coop allll the time with my little brother, good times
M as in M-rated game? It was rated T for Teen
I wish we got a GRAW or Future Soldier sequel instead of the open world trash but Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft.
Thank you for the trip down memory lane! I loved GRAW 2, and played it on PC. I remember there was a mods workshop of sorts where you could download and play player created scenarios. It was awesome!
Yeah, mentioning that Sniper villiage in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault is giving me PTSD. Thanks Gman.
I used to love LOVE this series of games... a more realistic style of shooters but... then the new ones came out and it went down the drain 😐
Amen
It's still realistic but the new games are just terrible and not fun at all
Wildlands was pretty decent to be honest, but Breakpoint? No, just no.
Wildlands its still fun on coop, never played breakpoint.
@@trobriandstorm Yeah, if I were you don't bother, since its still full of bugs and Jon Bernthal's character was done dirty, he was supposed to be a great villain but fell flat due to Ubisoft's shitty writing.
As a GRAW2 PC online multiplayer enthusiast, I mourned the decline of the servers. Only the diehards were left in the end and there were some very hard fought battles in those maps. My tag was GunKnight
Back in the day when games on different platforms were developed separately, all the mechanics were designed for that platform.
Nah not really and in this case the PC version really suffered.
Ubisoft were really the only ones who consistently did this, look at splinter cell DA V1 and V2 or Rainbow six 3 on ps2 vs xbox then PC. Or Driver 3 on 360 vs wii
it’s also just an inefficient way to develop games
@@rexthewolf3149 The two games are developed by 2 separate studios, it's not that inefficient
@@happy5642642 and why not just have both studios work on the same project. twice the man power. Especially with how much more it takes to develop games these days. Or just have them work on something else entirely. It not like pc and console are that different. it was mostly done then mostly out of necessity. If you really want that hyper precise aim on console you could plug in a keyboard and mouse. You could do it in cs go on the ps3. if a games is built properly platform shouldn’t matter.
I remember as a kid being so excited when my dad came home from work one day with GRAW for the Xbox 360, I LOVED that game. Good memories :)
I also died again and again on multiple playthroughs in that part on the prologue where your shoot the armored vehicle with the rocket. I always hit that damn low wall I’m glad you showed that
OMG this takes me back. I loved these games.
Man the graphics for this were so impressive for its time. Not so much the detail of individual models & textures - but the lighting, colour, contrast, particle effects, with the game's scale, and a lot of amazingly smooth animation work. The sound really sold it too, everything's so punchy & meaty, and the score is great.
I remember playing the multiplayer demos of both of these games on my 360 back in the day and having so much fun, truly amazing games
2:10 LOL best cut-to I’ve ever seen in any of your videos. And I’ve been watching for many years…
Mate, that clip of the Aussie being arrested, pretty much speaks to our situation right now in the good ol' land of Oz.
Loved these games couldn’t believe what I was playing on my 360 blew me away
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter was the first game I got for my XBOX 360. My second was PGR 3. And soon after I got Gears of War. I'd like to play the PC version. Especially if it is as open as you described. Another game of this type would be appreciated. Either a Ghost Recon or a Socom game, or a game with more tactical mechanics than what's available in today's market. I miss these types of games. I've just got Socom for my PS2. And I will play it after I beat GTA: San Andreas.
This was one the first 360 games I got, I sucked cuz I was a kid but I loved it. Me and my bros played the multiplayer all the time, especially the coop
I remember absolutely loving these games.
Brooo the fkn memories of playing this game on Xbox 360 with my best mate and all his cousins was so fun tbvh, taking turns doing 1 v 1 split screen with whole 6 of us, looking back it’s crazy how patient we was for our turn. 😂😂😂
The GRAW entries ran circles around the recent ones imo. Would love to see this format come back one day.
This was one of my first 360 games and I ABSOLUTELY loved it. I wish they made games like this now.
Just finished watching Raycevik's video on pre cod shooters, which features those 2 games and your vid poped up. Nice
The co op in these games was so incredible.
man i used to love these games so much growing up
This game was really ahead of its time
Advanced Warfighter was absolutely amazing.
I loved both these games. Need to get a new power brick for my 360....
Graw1 on pc was one of my first fps games ever... got ptsd flashback from that MG nest shit, I love that game
Old Tom Clancy games are so fun. I was replaying the original Splinter Cell the other night and lost track of 4 hours
The Splinter Cell games got enhanced for Xbox One X too. They look great for old games.
Great video. At the time I had seen reviews that the pc version was better that made me wish I played that version. Now I feel much better. Wish Ghost recon can come back to these days.
I accidentally managed to purchase all three versions of the first GRAW. It's one of the most enjoyable GR games in my opinion and I prefer the PC version but the 360 version is a must play as well. I used to love the PvE missions in multiplayer. I think what makes GRAW so great is how imaginative and immersive they got with the speculative technology: The HUD is more than just an information display, the weapons felt like they were on the edge of invention for the time (they are very real today), and the use of the map had something realistic about it that made it loveable.
You need to cover Socom: US Navy Seals 1, 2 and 3 and Socom: Combined Assault. Superb franchise. Also the Conflict series, like Desert Storm 1 and 2 and Vietnam.
Freaking loved 1&2 on 360. Didn't even know about the other ports.
I remember being absolutely mind blown by Advanced Warfighter on Xbox when it came out. It was one of my favorite games when it came out and played it religiously. Along with Ghost Recon 2 as well
I desperately want that fucking outro tune played at my funeral and everyone can stand dancing like South Park goths i would fucking love that, mad rep bruh love the channel too much
Fun fact, the developers for the PC version went on to start Overkill and develop Payday The Heist and Payday 2. GRAW and both Payday games run on the same engine.
Thank you for answering one of my longtime requests. I'm not naive enough to think I was the one behind this, but I'm so glad you covered the 360 versions... They're full of nostalgia for me
In the first GRAW on the final mission of the xbox original version. There was an alternative version to the "He got away" ending. If you bullhorned through the enemies fast enough, you'd get to shoot the man in the back just before he climbed a ladder out of a tunnel that results in the "got away" ending.
It was a high risk reward, my brother and I would do it in 2 player co-op through that mission.
This was the most nostalgic xbox 360 game for me
The GRAW multi-player demo was the first online multi-player game I ever played... haha I was a little kid with a 360 he got for his birthday but no games. I met so many cool ass people on there. Good times😂
Tx for this upload, I have a lot of fond memories of this game -- especially the door gunner parts. Felt like you were dropped into an action movie.
Think I'll revisit this bad boy again.
I really enjoyed both of these games. They’re not groundbreaking, but they’re fun squad shooters. Actually now that I think about it I think I only played GRAW 2, but again it was a fun game.
Fun facts: GRIN became Overkill and made the Payday games which is where the "Golden Grin Casino" and a mask got their name from.
3:27 Never underestimate the power of Street Fighter 😆🎮📽
I remember seeing thhis be played on a game tv show I couldn’t believe how good it looked
Graw was infact the most intense pvp iv ever played more so then bf or cod. Miss that gameplay.
Fun Fact: GRIN is the developer behind Bionic Commando: Rearmed and the questionable reboot before they did Wanted and Terminator: Salvation. They went out of business but then reformed as Overkill and went onto create the Payday series and the rest is history.
I played both of these on the 360 and I have to say I enjoyed them but I wouldn't play them for their story that's for sure but for gameplay I did enjoy them I like how you give a good and honest review
Another plus for the 360/ps3 versions were the splitscreen missions and it's version of terrorist hunt. So many nights "wasted" on those
I remember hiring the Xbox version from blockbuster and thought it was ok. But then played it on Xbox 360 and absolutely loved it. This video brought back great memories
That sniper mission from Medal of Honor? It was a nightmare in the hardest difficulty. I was bored that week so I platinumed the HD remaster.
FINALLY, a video about these games that doesn't cover only the console versions, thanks man.