Why Tetris the Grand Master is the best Tetris

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  • A gameplay focused deep dive into Tetris the Grand Master. There's more to it than invisible Tetris ! #tgm_series
    Want to discuss with other TGM nerds? Go join our discord: / discord
    Tetris the Grand Master is available on Switch, PS4/PS5, or, if you are lucky, in a game center near you.
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    📋 Index
    00:14 : Tetris as an arcade game
    06:56 : The Lock Delay
    10:28 : Automovement with DAS
    12:13 : Input buffering with IRS
    13:46 : Wallkicks
    15:41 : TGM's history-based randomizer
    18:31 : TGM's UI
    20:36 : Score, grading and time attack
    26:03 : The sequels
    31:38 : Conclusion
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    📽 Video credits:
    Galaxian footage: • Galaxian 1979 Namco Ma...
    Yie Arr Kung fu footage: • Yie Ar Kung-Fu Longpla...
    Kung Fu footage: • Kung Fu Master - 1984 ...
    DoDonPachi Resurection footage: • DoDonPachi Resurrectio...
    Sifu footage: • Sifu (PC) Combat Gamep...
    Guilty Gear Strive Footage: • GGST ▰ Mocchi (Sol Bad...
    KevinDDR playing TGM3 at AGDQ 2015: • (Audio Synced!) AGDQ 2...
    Sega Tetris footage by nightmareci: • Sega Tetris, 999999 po...
    Masahiro Sakurai using Sega Tetris footage: • Risk and Reward [Game...
    NES Tetris footage by spikestuff via world of longplay : • NES Longplay [483] Tetris
    Killscreen demo by the late Jonas Neubauer: • Boom! [Former] World R...
    Hypertapping demo: • NES Tetris: Hypertappi...
    Rolling demo: • A Deeper Dive into the...
    Brawl Tripping: • Brawl Tripping
    As always, a godlike TGM1 performance by 777: • 初代TGM プレー動画 (2022.10.19)
    "tetris japan finals" (an official promotional video from arika, but meme-d by the early 2000s internet) : • Tetris Japan Finals
    TGM2+ Death Gm by SwitchPalaceCorner: • TAP Death GM in 4:54.2...
    TGM2 Orange line Master Gm by EricICX: • TGM2 Orange Line Maste...
    TGM3 player registration demo (... but it's a Gm performance, so watch it): • THE TGM3 CLASSIC GM EX...
    KevinDDR's first TGM3 Gm: • Tetris The Grand Maste...
    TGM3 Master Mo by colour_thief: • Tetris the Grandmaster...
    TGM3 Shirase footage by EricICX: • [TGM3] Shirase (C) 4:1...
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    📚Other sources:
    Gamest magazine archive: archive.org/de...
    Game machine magazine archive: onitama.tv/gam...
    TetrisWiki: tetris.wiki
    Arika official interview: arika.co.jp/sp...
    Kouza's (translated) TGM guide: tgm.tips/
    Mask of the Betrayer longplay by Lt. Danger lparchive.org/...

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  • @Arcad3n
    @Arcad3n วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I started playing this game on Arcade Archives recently and I realized that the game seemed designed specifically to make me better at Tetris. The name of the game is anticipating your next move before you execute it, necessitating the player gets better at planning ahead. It’s a pretty special game!

  • @100hundert
    @100hundert ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Just started watching, but I'm already super impressed by the beautiful presentation and editing! 👏

    • @100hundert
      @100hundert ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What an incredible video - so informative and well done! Very deep analysis!

  • @switchpalacecorner
    @switchpalacecorner ปีที่แล้ว +26

    this tgm stuff seems pretty cool, maybe I'll give it a try some time :p

    • @Kurzov
      @Kurzov 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      TGM1 and 2 recently received Switch ports!

    • @mizu_yt
      @mizu_yt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kurzov homie you're talking to switchpalacecorner, a prominent figure in the community

  • @trixciel
    @trixciel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent docu, c'est la 2e fois que je le regarde...
    Ca change de ton passage sur Nolife de l'époque 🤯
    Continue comme ca !

  • @bunn4901
    @bunn4901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice editing. I hope that more people find your channel.

  • @cIymax
    @cIymax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Magnificent documentary! Thank you.

  • @tolstoj_
    @tolstoj_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoyed this video! Great explanation and overview.

  • @Abayake
    @Abayake 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great great video, it's crazy how many small details we gloss over and yet had so much thought put behind them. For instance I never noticed why the other games felt a bit "awkward" for me to play until you pointed out that the next box is right above where the piece spawns, that small detail makes a huge difference.
    27:17 in my opinion, there's a 3rd point in TGM2 that promotes consistency: the invisible roll. You touched over it and maybe it's sort of implied and it flew over my head, but I believe it's also there to only award the GM grade to people who can consistently clear the pre-conditions. In TGM1 it's reasonably possible to clutch the GM grade and get it "by chance" (totally not speaking from experience here ^^). TGM2 uses a system that is more reminiscent of shmups and their 1CC hidden bosses ; if you want to actually get the GM grade, you have to be repeatedly be good enough to tackle the M-roll enough times and practice it enough to actually clear it. Of course there was a debug mode and nowadays simulators make it trivial to practice M-roll over and over, but I believe it was part of the idea back then. And then, people who are reasonably good enough to frequently get the M-Roll AND become good at surviving, get to practice enough to clear 32 lines and get the true last grade, making clutching green GM essentially impossible.

  • @carlcouture1023
    @carlcouture1023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video! Thank you! I always assumed it was a game made to troll players, not realizing it was in response to the question "how do we go past 20G?"

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Releasing 3 games (and in the arcades no less, where the operator ROI is paramount) , just to troll players would be a pretty ballsy move :).
      But anyway it proves that whatever hobby you have, there's bound to be an extreme version of it somewhere.

  • @nahucirujano
    @nahucirujano ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video

  • @gyroninjamodder
    @gyroninjamodder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    31:00 Shirase is a reference to the name of a character from Street Fighter EX, another game from Akira.

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...maybe ? I mean fine she's the evil persona of a normally calm and composed person (Hokuto -> Shirase, similar to Ryu -> Evil Ryu), but by no mean Master mode would be a calm and composed mode.

    • @Abayake
      @Abayake 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It could be a bit of both (Shirase's name /is/ written with the kanji for obituary after all), but I think it also makes perfect contextual sense for the sequel of the "absolute death" mode to be named that way, since it's the logical step after passing away in TGM2.

  • @MichaelButlerC
    @MichaelButlerC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing breakdown of the game mechanics! Hope more people see this awesome video 🎉

  • @atmaillumina
    @atmaillumina ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video. Me personally, I would have placed the J piece upside down all the way on the right to take the double at 17:44. I think that's the best play on D+. And considering you got an S piece right after the square block, it would have been the best play in my eyes. What you did is probably the best for master mode though.

  • @grindfox1073
    @grindfox1073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Vid!

  • @Painocus
    @Painocus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Too bad the NES Tetris community is centered around the most mid Tetris game on the NES/Famicom. (I'm mostly poking fun, but I'm a bit confused as why that one of all versions has recently become the standard "old Tetris".)
    Personally I'd consider most of what's under the Nintendo branch to be the BPS branch (which eventually became modern Guideline/SRS Tetris). While the actual Nintendo branch consists of Nintendo NES Tetris, Gameboy Tetris and Dr. Mario & Tetris, and basically died out after that.
    Sega Tetris also split from the Spectrum Holobyte/Mirrorsoft branch (and Mirrorsofts' non-IBM versions might be considered their own branch). But that's getting a bit into the weeds.
    The Atari branch was also another notable branch that got killed off.

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the input. As a 90s kids I never reaaallly paid attention to the early Tetris games, and having just 2 branches was better for the narration (or really just introducing the concept of a Tetris family tree). What was special about the Atari brancv ?

  • @LucasTigy2
    @LucasTigy2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    crazy how i just finish watching this video just to see the announcement that arika is going to be making another tetris game

  • @MeniscusKing
    @MeniscusKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep up the good work!! I loved watching this

  • @emi_isdead
    @emi_isdead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video! i didn't understand a lot of tgm but i've been always interested on the game, this video it's a masterpiece

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for th ekind comment !

  • @Tarika916
    @Tarika916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    TGM has the best sound effects and Tetramino textures in my opinion. I dislike the glossy and reflective texture in the newer Tetris games. The music in TGM is really intense, it makes the game feel faster than it is

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The sound gimmick is certainly an unmistakable signature of the series (see Tecnitix's TGM in the bottle). I think to glossy tetramino's in PPTis there more match Puyo Puyo's esthetics than anything else.

  • @mizu_yt
    @mizu_yt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I LOVE TGM
    I LOVE ABSOLUTELY FUCKING STUPID TIME LIMITS THAT PREVENT YOU FROM CONTINUING THE GAME PAST A CERTAIN POINT

    • @hellothisisme2010
      @hellothisisme2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      me when i get hit with the shirase torikan

    • @mizu_yt
      @mizu_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hellothisisme2010 the death and shirase torikans are absolute bullshit (2 shirase torikans, really?)

    • @hellothisisme2010
      @hellothisisme2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mizu_yt 3:03 for FUCKING WORLD RULE, like how do you even do classic mode torikan
      tgm3 gamers are another level of insanity (and i am one of them)

    • @mizu_yt
      @mizu_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hellothisisme2010 oh hi "hellothisisme" I didn't realize this was you

  • @probium2832
    @probium2832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've practiced TGM3 a whole lot. Although I did remove the exam conditions in my clone game (not the real game) I got two GM ratings eventually.
    And the main part is not as hard as you think. Just score many Tetrises, follow the COOL/REGRET conditions and bam. Invisitetris.

  • @Neguuy
    @Neguuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super vidéo, la présentation est excellente :D (et content de voir un autre fan de TGM francophone)

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Je revendique ma place de fan de la première heure :) #nolife-tv_forever

  • @mipplestar
    @mipplestar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you!

  • @zy2239
    @zy2239 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely video … I enjoyed it a lot 😊

  • @DestroyerTriple
    @DestroyerTriple 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video is incredible!

  • @sillywilly7466
    @sillywilly7466 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best Tetris indeed. I'm GM in TGM1 and M in TGM2.

  • @JordiumZ
    @JordiumZ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good video I just downloaded the second game on my switch

  • @MeniscusKing
    @MeniscusKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not trying to be rude by saying this but at 8:32 you show an example that would "block the well" however this isn't true due to the fact that the line would immediately clear leaving the well open. In fact, that specific move that you recommend against I would prefer over any other example given

    • @PtitPrince
      @PtitPrince  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The well is still inaccessible for I pieces because of what's left of the T piece (remember that you're in 20G). I think it's a valid point under TGM3 ruleset though (because of floorkicks)

    • @MeniscusKing
      @MeniscusKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PtitPrince WOW so you can't even rotate out of that one? That's crazy, thanks for schooling me on why I was actually wrong. I think I'll just have to download 2+ on the eShop for the switch to try this rotation system out! I actually didn't know till I watched your video that TGM 1 doesn't have the invisible end credits

    • @MeniscusKing
      @MeniscusKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PtitPrince Just tried out TGM 2 + on the Switch. I understand now and your explanation explains it well. Thank you you're absolutely right. It's almost annoying how the I piece refuses to rotate if too close to the wall
      Also I apologize for my ignorance, I actually thought I commented earlier but I guess not?

  • @wingsmash0
    @wingsmash0 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vid!

  • @elliottrowe4568
    @elliottrowe4568 ปีที่แล้ว

    "PromoSM"

    • @flleaf
      @flleaf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SM as in stepmania?