I've made a small edit at 0:50 because I unintentionally used an offensive term. And after doing a bit of research and talking to some people, it felt wrong to leave it up unedited. I honestly appreciate how understanding you guys were, identifying that I'm more likely just unaware being from a different country, than saying stuff out pure malice. So really thanks for not ripping me in half. It always pays to have a second set of eyes looking over your work haha.
A second set of eyes is good if the eyes can be trusted. It seems you needed a third and fourth after mentioning 'doing a bit of research and talking to some people' as you had to verify that the term in question was indeed offensive, despite your viewers directly telling you it was. At least that is how I see it but i see many things others don't. Again, you still do an amazing job- pro tip for all youtubers- don't create more trouble for yourself while trying to get out of trouble for yourself. lol that sounds funny
I had heard of Kim Collens but more in the 2004 onward era where he won races without training well from hearing about him. He was one of those rare natural athletes who did not need to use weights like most do to be good. The sad part is if he trained more he would have been better at sprint running probably a great 400 meter and 800 meter guy who does more a long distance sprint program with few weights. Kim Collens was lucky he was competing his prime time in a slow era 2000 to 2006 when the players looked closer to some era NFL/CFL players when without padding on probably too bulky on the u[pper body to do well though some did in this period, the 100/200 meter sprinters needed to slim down like 400 meter sprinters of the era sometimes 800 meter sprint runners or 200 meter/400 meter hurdle guys. They only knew from some like Carl Lewis and other top level like Michel Johnson they were supposed to do lifting or do weighted training but most buked up too much I could tell in this period so that some faster runners who did not do much for weights in this era out preformed not just Kim Collens, this is a piece of how Usain Bolt got his early wins at the world Track and field championships be it in outdoor or indoor is he did not do as much weights so players ended up looking like lighter weight division boxers/MMA fighters on upper body.
You make another remark here which seems ignorant at best, and pretty tasteless. "The work ethic of a homeless person" Do you mean someone that likely has lost it all in life and has no family or friends or even a roof over their head? You imply all "homeless" are just "lazy" Not good my friend, be more kind and thoughtful with your words😊
Imagine if he trained at 20 like he did in his late 30s and early 40s, he would be a force to be reckoned with to even the people in the 9.7 and 9.8 ranges
Would you say the limit for that training you get in yours 20s is 26-27? I’ve been on and off sprinting training for years due to injuries, currently 23 but scared of missing my genetic window
@ so this was kind of why I asked my question. I was wondering if aging to mid-late 20s before going fully in on sprint training is good or bad, as I at 23 have been on and off with injuries and currently on my longest break from sprinting going now a year. It seems like the sooner you start sprint training the less you can do later on. So I don’t feel that bad about waiting until 24 to start again
Didnt touch weights and was lazy, and only sprinted and did plyometrics, that precisely is the reason of his longevity and success. Many people think weights should be used, well he started using weights at around the age of 33 which helped him go faster, but he already was a master technician before using weights.
Insane stride frequency but not as much power in each foot strike. Still reached near the human limit for sprinting speed, and inspiring that he went 9.9 at 40 years old. Kim Collins the legend
Holy shit that's insane! To peak at 40 just because you started to lift weights as a pro. Like holy shit. Thank you so much for this video. Insane shit to come across.
Talent is a double edged sword. When you are talented, things come much easier to you and you never learn the skill of working hard at something, and at the highest levels, the seperator is consistent work ethic. If you want to maximise your talent, you must learn how to grind. Showing up daily. Early mornings, late nights. Dedication, persistence, obsession, focus. You need know how to live these words.
While that is true. Some people are soo talented that even if his competitors tried to out work him they will never reach them. Sometimes while it varies talent can be absolute. Genetics matter it matters alot.
@@jmgonzales7701 Especially in events that are essentially pure genetics. Most people can't even get close to elite sprinters however much/well they train. There are just under 1 billion men ages 20-40 world wide. The number of those that at any point had a chance to be an elite sprinter is minuscule. You personally can always work on whatever and improve, but sprintings one of those sports where everyone has a ceiling, and the guy with the highest ceiling will win 98% of the time as long as he has *some* work ethic.
For sure. I never trained that hard during my sprint career and didn't really have to, reached national finals anyway despite not the price podium. But only trained 2 times a week and no weightlifting because I felt that was pointless for sprinters cuz it would only make me more muscles I had to carry so thought it was a net loss for every 1kg or muscles I use to move to finish. Yes I was stupid and lazy but also only 14-20 before I stopped. When i grew older i always wondered how far i could have gone if i trained 5 days a week instead and took weightlifting seriously. Ironically i today at 43 train 4 times a week at the gym....
@@e-naa4118 This is false. If you follow Usain Bolt's career and watch Interviews, the guy with the highest ceiling as you say, he had a very mediocre career and would get beat by work horses like Tyson Gay and Justin Gatlin. Only when he locked in and went demon mode with his training, throwing up every session, and then training alongside a young, juiced up, motivated Yohan Blake, that he became dominant. Guys with higher ceilings than anyone you've ever seen on TV walk the earth. You've never heard of them because they've NEVER put in the work to get noticed.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 I trained for a month when I was determined to win my charter school championship. I went from 1 minute 10 seconds to 57 seconds just by sprinting in the morning and shadow boxing. I won by alot but I got bored and just stopped training. I bet there's alot of guys who would've done amazing running track or alot of other sports to be honest but they just didn't really care to try all that much for some reason or another.
Yep I remember him he was always one that could sneak in and medal. Didn’t know about his back story and lack of training though. His wife must’ve had major hypertension. Kudos to women
Of course I had heard of Kim Collins in his quarter finals in the Atlanta Olympics 1996. I remember there was a clip somewhere of a sprinter who was full on eye popping, blowing air through his cheeks , sucking in massive amounts of air, busting a vein type of concentration. And right next to him was Kim Collins who was instead of focusing on his race - was full on laughing at the previous runner's antics. That's my guy Kim - all relaxation, only need it for 10 seconds then - turn off the turbojets.
For a natural this is so true. I have personally coached a ton of athletes, for a natural athlete you physically cannot do more than 3 intense Sprinting sessions a week (if you're also going Gym and doing Plyometrics). It's only people on steroids that have insane work capacity where they can max out every single day for weeks, months and even years.
@@MatthewSprint I tried training sprints , for 2 years , I’ve gotten injured several times from overtraining. Once I’m done recovering .. again. I’m planning to train myself and reduce the load tremendously . Honestly for years I used to be in the gym and always knew from my experience there that the only ones who can train intensely (like Arnold and such) were on something. The same would apply to any sport. At least this is my opinion now.
@@drec9267 Literally me lol. It's not 'laziness' btw (Although I'm sure there are a ton genuinely 'lazy' Sprinters, who get good results), A lot of the time it's just from observation you notice that intensity and adequate rest is more important (so you start going less frequently), compared to someone who is there everyday and does low intensity and ends-up burnt out or injured, I really sympathize with the guys who thought 'more is more' and ended up worse-off..
The success of Kim Collins even in his 30s could indicate that there is a culture of overtraining in track and field. There are stories of some former track and field athletes who were limping or who were using crutches in their 40s, due to the effects of overtraining in their younger years. I doubt that Kim Collins will have that problem until his 70s or 80s or 90s.
10:44 Yes, I did, I found strange that he peeked at age 40. Only later I knew that he actually had a long career, but now seeing this video it makes sense why.
Wow....I'm from the Caribbean and I've followed this man's career from it's inception to present day, and I was always amazed at how consistently fast he ran his entire career not even looking like a normal elite muscular athletic Sprinter....but beating guys twice his size over 3+ Decades of running; and without the use of Supplements, Steroids and Weight Training....So, I agree; he was undoubtedly the most naturally gifted and talented male Sprinter of his entire professional career....👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Honestly who knows if he started weights ..sometimes ur muscles can be too strong for ur ligaments or tendons and u get hurt .but he’s def a natural..elite sprinter for a decade without consistent training yeah that’s talent
Oh yes!! I remember him well because he was always in the finals and would be announced with the camera close up. But now I know so much more about him!! Thanks!! Great video!! Glad Collins has a world record!! Impressive!!
Not even that he’s lack of training also helped his muscles recover so he’s not abusing his body like majority of athletes. Plus the weight free training keeps his joints healthy and flexibile
@@sapphirelittle1078 He's a kiwi, and Steven Adams (kiwi NBA) said something similar many years back in a post match interview. You can guess what happened.
There is definitely no negative connotation over there, he probably isn't even aware of it. He could've said something like running like "headless chickens" and think it's just as an innocent phrase (because it is in most of the world I think).
"The work ethic of a homeless person". While I haven't been homeless, anyone that has know that's a much harder life. Collecting bottles for 12 hours/day, 7 days/week with bad sleeping conditions. The poorest people often work the hardest, so this was a very bad comparison.
Work ethic of a kiwi/ New Zealand homeless person. There fixed it I'm not too sure where you live, but the homeless and sometimes unemployed people aren't the most self motivated people
@@aguyfromnewzealand3392 Yep depends on the area, USA does have people like this who are not homeless but uneployed who can phisically get a job usally quitting after a week but refuse to even work only doing bare minium of proving they are getting a job sening in the forms of being employed to scam the goverment out of money every 6 months or year depending on the state.
Hitting the weights hard, pounding on his body and taking the "golden powder' at a younger age would have ended his career earlier without a doubt. Could he be the fastest clean athlete to run the 100m or one of them. You tell us Jumpman.....
Yeah I loved hearing the story but not the manner in which it was told bc of your point, who knows if he would’ve had nearly as much success if he did what was tantamount to overtraining for him by using weights and more training sessions earlier on in his career.
3x a week sounds about right for a natural athlete. He probably ate pretty good, otherwise he would have been heavier. Always rooted for him since he looked like a normal guy that cooked down the track.
Honestly, I think he was jus having fun....doing tha lease in a hectic job environment...simple...at tha end longevity proved his point...I am sure he had make tha most finals for both the Olympics and world games as tha slowest man on paper..yet still to come away with a medal...he wasn't going for Greatness, he was just doing his thing....🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 big ups to him...still one of my favorite sprinter
Tbh, I wish Kim Collin's training regiment was more known when I was younger b/c it probably would've been more useful for me having sickle cell anemia. I think I will, w/ my new programming I'm developing, set it up much more like him (luckily I've never hated weights at least lol). The extra rest is definitely needed as a sickle cell patient and could reduce the frequency of burnout I go thru with training at times
A legend and lets face it, many did a double take during is career to know where St Kitts and Nevis was..... As an Aussie hope Gout x 2 becomes an even bigger story. The man from Ipswich taking on the world.
I also think Collins quit too suddenly, which might seem strange given his age, but I feel like he overreacted to an injury/slow start to a season. Still ...Overreacting to such a setback is probably understandable given his workshy attitude!
Na man, saying Gout Gout can be the next Bolt is too much. We say that of every kid who comes close to the 10 second barrier/breaks it and then sometime later almost all of them have a career threatening/ending injury or get caught for doping.
Bolt was the next Michael Johnson and even ran 400m/200m originally too! The 100m really came out of nowhere! I recall after he ran a really fast time before Beijing, he was asked if he was even going to run the 100m and he told reporters that only if his coach told him to! Wild that if his coach said no that we would missed out on that famous race world record crossing the line looking to the crowd while beating his chest! Gout Gout absolutely have to goods to be the next Bolt of his generation! he could well be the poster boy of Brisbane 2032! Also have to add Leslie Tobogo, an outstanding junior, junior WR in the 100m and now Olympic gold medalist in the 200m in only a matter of a few years!
@aguyfromnewzealand3392 Tebogo is truly a great runner. He honestly can do anything from the 100 to the 400 and do wonderful in it. But I stick with what I said about Gout Gout. He's talented for sure but you need to come up with the one example of Tebogo or i guess Knighton to try and make it seem like Gout Gout will be the next Bolt when there's multiple runners who did way faster, got branded as the best Bolt and had a mediocre to moderately succesful career which was miles away from what Bolt did.
Gout Gout is of South Sudanese stock... I'm betting he will grow up to be +7 feet tall. There is a good reason why South Sudan is crazy about NBA. He will switch to basketball during his stint in USA 😂
I'm also somewhat like Collins, except I don't run, I swim. Lots of my teammates go to the gym and work harder then me and train more frequently. What I've found is when I really want to go fast, I train 2-3 sessions a week and 1-2 technique. I discovered I don't need to lift, I gain muscle every time I swim. Maybe if I also start lifting, I'll run a pb!
Training 3 times a week for only one hours as a pro sprinter and not knowing basic athlete knowledge like protein powder is in my opinion lazy. now it could be bs since i dont buy that doing the bare minimum gives you that level of results.
I really think how successful an athlete is should be assessed by their longevity in their field as well. Kim is definitely the Sfinx of the 100m, surely enjoyed his progression, not necessarily to be the fastest but just to be there at the precious moment with no stress no pressure no expectation just purely joying the moment the magic exitment and intensity of a 100m race, a real example of knowing how to live you own life your own career without worry, just the way it should be lived.
Idk whatever he was doing worked for him at the time, maybe he didn’t need the volume and weight training early on but did later, maybe he wouldn’t have had the consistency and longevity. Point is he had a long impressive career and was never clouded with PED accusations, good on him.
It’s stunning that Collins didn’t have a national coach who put his foot down with the training. Coach must have worried Collins wouldn’t bother competing if he had to do serious training.
@The mindset in Europe is different I think. When folks succeeed in 1 or 2 competitions/exams/tests here without trying, we don’t sit back and admire ourselves and party. Our imagination runs riot because we know we got the talent so we build foundation on top with tenacious work and dedication within sensible bounds of course to avoid senseless training injuries. That same ‘don’t fix it less it’s broke’ Caribbean mindset blighted the careers of other athletes and boxers like Kirkland Laing, Lloyd Honeygan and few other athletes. They frustrated the hell out of me whilst I was coming up in the World in the Martial arts ranks during the 90s. All that talent and yet so little discipline, imagination, and vision. Edit: What I’m basically saying is that many like myself have a ‘lock it down’ mindset. That’s why we have a hard time understanding how gifted athletes and their associates don’t have that.
When I was 12 years old live in Melbourne I ran the curve first 100m 400m in 9.03sec second 100m 10.03 third 100m 10.03 forth 100m I pull a hamstring 17sec I wasn't muscular I was skinny fit I'm Australia and Samoan mixed. At 32years old I got so mascular I ran 100m in 6.65sec I consider myself the fastest human ever sprint.
I remember when he ran 9.93 at 40 and I was dumbfounded by how he was able to accomplish that at such an advanced age. but I finally get my answer as to why, and the entire time I didn't know it was because he started lifting lol. What a waste of potential and what could've been 😅🤦🏾♂️
Everything you say is true. I always tell people that but they thought I was crazy. This man had the potential to run 9.6 but from my personal experience with him of what he saw that's why I agree. I saw this man at a club 5am in the morning then 2pm the next evening I saw him running some hard 150s plus on top of that he was a man whore. He empty his clips many times that he really should of. If you notice most of his race's he got out very good but couldn't hold. This man train most of his pro career in Jamaica
Nicely presented bio, Jumpman. I remember the 2003 final, and thinking of Dwain Chambers, who had done everything right up to that point, or so I thought, and thinking, "Right Dwain, is it going to be legend, or Dibbley... legend or Dibbley". And when he finished nowhere, I said, "Dibbley!!!" Little did I know then that he was on the juice and become one of our disgraced sprinters of all time. But of Collins, if he really did stay off the weights for most of his career, then I think he did himself a great favour and will have good health for the remainder of his life. So, yes, I'd say he was a good exponent of the sport.
Awesome video and research. Not gonna lie I was a little thrown off by “the work ethic of a homeless person comment,” but might be a cultural thing and differences between American and New Zealander views on homelessness. Given the link between homelessness and mental health, this struck me as uncalled for comparison especially given the casually nature of how you said it. Again love the video and all your work wouldn’t comment otherwise
Appreciate the comment. Honestly a bit of a thoughtless throwaway joke by me. And I think it is a difference in perception of homeless in NZ vs other countries. Wont be repeating the line, live and learn.
It was such a bizarre final. The then world record holder Tim Montgomery had a PB (before it was revoked) of 9.78, and he ran 10.11. Perhaps he was off his PED cycle at that time lol
@@JumpmanTFSir, Collins (9.99 Zurich pre-Worlds) and Brown (10.01WJR in Quarters at that very Worlds) were hardly the slowest guys in the field. I get what you are getting at. They were a surprising 1-2 to say the least
The work ethic of a homeless person... wild. With the vast majority of people one paycheck away from losing their rented flats or even campers, with the vast majority of people in deep debt, with the normal standard of most people having to survive on the street for at least a while during lifetimes after losing stability, in the richest country on earth with the biggest inequality, with homelessness itself as a way of life being very hard to handle including getting no sleep and constantly being hunted by police and criminals and rich people laughing at them, constantly scrambling for means to get through the particular day, living from hour to hour....with all of this information easily available on the internet... One would think it wouldn't be very logical to punch down on people... Anyway besides that it was a nice video. I'm inspired now to party and not train.
Bullet Bob Hayes was known as the fastest man ever throughout my youth, back in the sixties and seventies. He had incredible natural talent which overcame flawed technique. For a very long time the Guinness Book of World Records listed his speed of over 27 miles per hour as the fastest ever--and remember, that was on cinder tracks.
Grew up watching collins run. I think it is a bit too far fetched to think he didn't train as hard as everyone else. Was his routine different? yes but everyones trainning style is. Personally, I think he was the last natural sprinter of his time, or atleast wasn't juiced to the gills like everyone else was. He is a guy who prioritized longevity in his career over just being a one hit wonder athlete, which we see today in many athletes. Where they would have one hell of a season, breaking MR, having insane PR's WC winns then all of a sudden dissapearing due to "injuries". No one ever talks about how bad sprinting world is when folks are doping to keep their sponsorships, you get injured much faster, you all of a sudden have heart problems at the age of 40 and so on. With this many sprinters nowdays suffering from injuries, makes me wonder how many peptides they shooting up to get back to the same form.
I've made a small edit at 0:50 because I unintentionally used an offensive term. And after doing a bit of research and talking to some people, it felt wrong to leave it up unedited.
I honestly appreciate how understanding you guys were, identifying that I'm more likely just unaware being from a different country, than saying stuff out pure malice. So really thanks for not ripping me in half.
It always pays to have a second set of eyes looking over your work haha.
A second set of eyes is good if the eyes can be trusted. It seems you needed a third and fourth after mentioning 'doing a bit of research and talking to some people' as you had to verify that the term in question was indeed offensive, despite your viewers directly telling you it was. At least that is how I see it but i see many things others don't. Again, you still do an amazing job- pro tip for all youtubers- don't create more trouble for yourself while trying to get out of trouble for yourself. lol that sounds funny
I had heard of Kim Collens but more in the 2004 onward era where he won races without training well from hearing about him. He was one of those rare natural athletes who did not need to use weights like most do to be good. The sad part is if he trained more he would have been better at sprint running probably a great 400 meter and 800 meter guy who does more a long distance sprint program with few weights. Kim Collens was lucky he was competing his prime time in a slow era 2000 to 2006 when the players looked closer to some era NFL/CFL players when without padding on probably too bulky on the u[pper body to do well though some did in this period, the 100/200 meter sprinters needed to slim down like 400 meter sprinters of the era sometimes 800 meter sprint runners or 200 meter/400 meter hurdle guys.
They only knew from some like Carl Lewis and other top level like Michel Johnson they were supposed to do lifting or do weighted training but most buked up too much I could tell in this period so that some faster runners who did not do much for weights in this era out preformed not just Kim Collens, this is a piece of how Usain Bolt got his early wins at the world Track and field championships be it in outdoor or indoor is he did not do as much weights so players ended up looking like lighter weight division boxers/MMA fighters on upper body.
You make another remark here which seems ignorant at best, and pretty tasteless.
"The work ethic of a homeless person"
Do you mean someone that likely has lost it all in life and has no family or friends or even a roof over their head? You imply all "homeless" are just "lazy"
Not good my friend, be more kind and thoughtful with your words😊
@@SteveNinetyski exactly my thoughts too
@@SteveNinetyskibeing only lazy is usually not enough to become homeless. Most of them are addicted to drugs and alcohol
"Im the only natural sprinter, no protein powder" is absolutely hilarious.
Lmao
Met him in Jamaica , when I was working at a Digicel store , humble guy
Imagine if he trained at 20 like he did in his late 30s and early 40s, he would be a force to be reckoned with to even the people in the 9.7 and 9.8 ranges
Would you say the limit for that training you get in yours 20s is 26-27? I’ve been on and off sprinting training for years due to injuries, currently 23 but scared of missing my genetic window
@ oh I have no clue lol I’m a distance guy and I’m only 18 years old so nowhere near my prime
@@StoogesTheTwo just dont think about it, and u wont worry
But he wouldn’t have such a long career. The strain accumulates.
@ so this was kind of why I asked my question. I was wondering if aging to mid-late 20s before going fully in on sprint training is good or bad, as I at 23 have been on and off with injuries and currently on my longest break from sprinting going now a year. It seems like the sooner you start sprint training the less you can do later on. So I don’t feel that bad about waiting until 24 to start again
Collins' mind is under-rated. When the Bolt drama was going on in the Daegu '11 100m final, I knew he'd keep focus and sneak a medal. What a man!
Didnt touch weights and was lazy, and only sprinted and did plyometrics, that precisely is the reason of his longevity and success. Many people think weights should be used, well he started using weights at around the age of 33 which helped him go faster, but he already was a master technician before using weights.
so true he was a master technician. one of the fastest 60m sprinters out without weights. crazy.
If he touched weights his career would have been shorter but he would have gone faster
Yeah. Weights are the great mistake of modern training
Insane stride frequency but not as much power in each foot strike. Still reached near the human limit for sprinting speed, and inspiring that he went 9.9 at 40 years old. Kim Collins the legend
9.9 at 40 means THE MOST TALENTED SPRINTER OF ALL TIME
running 9 secs at 40 is so motivating!
Him and gatlin are up there as my favourates. Love seeing athletes compete at older ages and doing it well.
@@JumpmanTFIs age that big of a deal?? Seems like people really over exaggerate our decline in performance as we get older.
@@markwilson5967 Oh it really is that big of a deal, in fact maybe a bigger deal than the video creator even suggested it was!
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@@markwilson5967 I would say it depends on your genetics. Some people do not age that fast between 30 and 40, so they can still make progress
hearing sydney olympics commentary as an aussie always makes me do a double take like whats the guy from the footy doing in a jumpman video
Holy shit that's insane! To peak at 40 just because you started to lift weights as a pro. Like holy shit. Thank you so much for this video. Insane shit to come across.
Nope, never heard of him. Interesting story though. Peaking at age 38-40, for a sprinter of all things, is wild.
He's the 2003 world champion Kim Collins
You’re not a track fan if you’ve never heard of him
@@kboy128ong
Talent is a double edged sword. When you are talented, things come much easier to you and you never learn the skill of working hard at something, and at the highest levels, the seperator is consistent work ethic. If you want to maximise your talent, you must learn how to grind. Showing up daily. Early mornings, late nights. Dedication, persistence, obsession, focus. You need know how to live these words.
While that is true. Some people are soo talented that even if his competitors tried to out work him they will never reach them. Sometimes while it varies talent can be absolute. Genetics matter it matters alot.
@@jmgonzales7701 Especially in events that are essentially pure genetics. Most people can't even get close to elite sprinters however much/well they train. There are just under 1 billion men ages 20-40 world wide. The number of those that at any point had a chance to be an elite sprinter is minuscule. You personally can always work on whatever and improve, but sprintings one of those sports where everyone has a ceiling, and the guy with the highest ceiling will win 98% of the time as long as he has *some* work ethic.
For sure. I never trained that hard during my sprint career and didn't really have to, reached national finals anyway despite not the price podium. But only trained 2 times a week and no weightlifting because I felt that was pointless for sprinters cuz it would only make me more muscles I had to carry so thought it was a net loss for every 1kg or muscles I use to move to finish. Yes I was stupid and lazy but also only 14-20 before I stopped. When i grew older i always wondered how far i could have gone if i trained 5 days a week instead and took weightlifting seriously. Ironically i today at 43 train 4 times a week at the gym....
@@e-naa4118 This is false. If you follow Usain Bolt's career and watch Interviews, the guy with the highest ceiling as you say, he had a very mediocre career and would get beat by work horses like Tyson Gay and Justin Gatlin. Only when he locked in and went demon mode with his training, throwing up every session, and then training alongside a young, juiced up, motivated Yohan Blake, that he became dominant. Guys with higher ceilings than anyone you've ever seen on TV walk the earth. You've never heard of them because they've NEVER put in the work to get noticed.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 I trained for a month when I was determined to win my charter school championship. I went from 1 minute 10 seconds to 57 seconds just by sprinting in the morning and shadow boxing. I won by alot but I got bored and just stopped training. I bet there's alot of guys who would've done amazing running track or alot of other sports to be honest but they just didn't really care to try all that much for some reason or another.
Yep I remember him he was always one that could sneak in and medal. Didn’t know about his back story and lack of training though. His wife must’ve had major hypertension. Kudos to women
Of course I had heard of Kim Collins in his quarter finals in the Atlanta Olympics 1996. I remember there was a clip somewhere of a sprinter who was full on eye popping, blowing air through his cheeks , sucking in massive amounts of air, busting a vein type of concentration. And right next to him was Kim Collins who was instead of focusing on his race - was full on laughing at the previous runner's antics. That's my guy Kim - all relaxation, only need it for 10 seconds then - turn off the turbojets.
It’s because his body is actually getting time to recover. Everyone is different.
For a natural this is so true. I have personally coached a ton of athletes, for a natural athlete you physically cannot do more than 3 intense Sprinting sessions a week (if you're also going Gym and doing Plyometrics). It's only people on steroids that have insane work capacity where they can max out every single day for weeks, months and even years.
@MatthewSprint True. I trained my legs last Thursday and only managed it to do it again today because my hammies were so sore lol.
@@MatthewSprint I tried training sprints , for 2 years , I’ve gotten injured several times from overtraining. Once I’m done recovering .. again. I’m planning to train myself and reduce the load tremendously .
Honestly for years I used to be in the gym and always knew from my experience there that the only ones who can train intensely (like Arnold and such) were on something. The same would apply to any sport. At least this is my opinion now.
@@MatthewSprint also I noticed that the “lazy “ sprinters in my club who won’t show up everyday end up progressing better and with less injuries.
@@drec9267 Literally me lol. It's not 'laziness' btw (Although I'm sure there are a ton genuinely 'lazy' Sprinters, who get good results), A lot of the time it's just from observation you notice that intensity and adequate rest is more important (so you start going less frequently), compared to someone who is there everyday and does low intensity and ends-up burnt out or injured, I really sympathize with the guys who thought 'more is more' and ended up worse-off..
it broke my heart when he missed his last olympics in such weird circumstances
2012 or 2016?
@@CarlFredrik-uo1cu 2012, he competed in Rio though
Shows with patience a steady low rep training regime can promote health and longevity. No drugs needed.
I cannot thank you enough for posting this video
im glad you enjoyed :)
One of the greatest starters of all time
The success of Kim Collins even in his 30s could indicate that there is a culture of overtraining in track and field.
There are stories of some former track and field athletes who were limping or who were using crutches in their 40s, due to the effects of overtraining in their younger years. I doubt that Kim Collins will have that problem until his 70s or 80s or 90s.
I was a huge fan of Kim for the same reason I am a huge fan of Letsile. Power to the (relatively) short skinny guys!
Nothing hurts me more than wasted potential or injuries in track…..
10:44 Yes, I did, I found strange that he peeked at age 40. Only later I knew that he actually had a long career, but now seeing this video it makes sense why.
Yes I have heard of him, awesome story.
Super cool video, loving the content lately!
Wow....I'm from the Caribbean and I've followed this man's career from it's inception to present day, and I was always amazed at how consistently fast he ran his entire career not even looking like a normal elite muscular athletic Sprinter....but beating guys twice his size over 3+ Decades of running; and without the use of Supplements, Steroids and Weight Training....So, I agree; he was undoubtedly the most naturally gifted and talented male Sprinter of his entire professional career....👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
i watched him run loads of times and never clocked his turnover speed, its crazy how many more steps he takes
Honestly who knows if he started weights ..sometimes ur muscles can be too strong for ur ligaments or tendons and u get hurt .but he’s def a natural..elite sprinter for a decade without consistent training yeah that’s talent
This gives me so much more respect for guys like su bingtian
there was going to be another whole half to this video about su, just going to make his own video eventually instead.
Maybe training 2 to 3 days a week is why he was good. He was always fresh
Oh yes!! I remember him well because he was always in the finals and would be announced with the camera close up. But now I know so much more about him!! Thanks!! Great video!! Glad Collins has a world record!! Impressive!!
That’s why he was able to last till 40 because he didn’t go crazy with the weights
Not even that he’s lack of training also helped his muscles recover so he’s not abusing his body like majority of athletes. Plus the weight free training keeps his joints healthy and flexibile
Of course I've heard of Kim Collins. He's a Caribbean legend!
His lack of grind/gear in his 20s helped stretch his career thru 30s.... Not lazy at all if you're answering the bell and cashing checks....
Great point
Some straight facts. Made a real career out of it
This man is my hero!!!! I love this guy!!!
Muscle monkeys is crazy 😂😂😂
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I'm wondering if this is an Australian term, because my American ears couldn't believe what I heard 😳
@@sapphirelittle1078 He's a kiwi, and Steven Adams (kiwi NBA) said something similar many years back in a post match interview. You can guess what happened.
There is definitely no negative connotation over there, he probably isn't even aware of it. He could've said something like running like "headless chickens" and think it's just as an innocent phrase (because it is in most of the world I think).
@@voongnz Oh yeah I totally understand, it’s definitely a cultural difference but my American brain found this funnier than it should’ve been
loved watching kim collins eat up ground in the 60m
Dude was a fiend in the 60m and won a lot of indoor medals. Just didn't mention it. 6.47 pb be crazy for such a small dude.
"The work ethic of a homeless person". While I haven't been homeless, anyone that has know that's a much harder life. Collecting bottles for 12 hours/day, 7 days/week with bad sleeping conditions. The poorest people often work the hardest, so this was a very bad comparison.
Work ethic of a kiwi/ New Zealand homeless person. There fixed it I'm not too sure where you live, but the homeless and sometimes unemployed people aren't the most self motivated people
@@aguyfromnewzealand3392 Yep depends on the area, USA does have people like this who are not homeless but uneployed who can phisically get a job usally quitting after a week but refuse to even work only doing bare minium of proving they are getting a job sening in the forms of being employed to scam the goverment out of money every 6 months or year depending on the state.
Yep, good video but as long as you're editing out offensive terms, might want to take a look at this one
True. I've seem a homeless person haul 70 lbs on their back across town.
That’s not true
9.93 at age 40 is simply next level.
(He also did 10.20 at age 41, and 10.37 at age 42)
Collins was always a favorite of mine to root for during championships. Great insight into his career!
Hitting the weights hard, pounding on his body and taking the "golden powder' at a younger age would have ended his career earlier without a doubt. Could he be the fastest clean athlete to run the 100m or one of them. You tell us Jumpman.....
Yeah I loved hearing the story but not the manner in which it was told bc of your point, who knows if he would’ve had nearly as much success if he did what was tantamount to overtraining for him by using weights and more training sessions earlier on in his career.
Great vid.
The Nick Kyrgios of sprinting
I honestly feel like Blake only ran that fast because of he's realization that he reacted terribly to the gun but that's just what I think
Honestly that’s ridiculous.
Blake definitely had some mental struggles. But I wonder wtf had him distracted tbh. Only reason ive ever reacted that slow.
3x a week sounds about right for a natural athlete. He probably ate pretty good, otherwise he would have been heavier. Always rooted for him since he looked like a normal guy that cooked down the track.
Honestly, I think he was jus having fun....doing tha lease in a hectic job environment...simple...at tha end longevity proved his point...I am sure he had make tha most finals for both the Olympics and world games as tha slowest man on paper..yet still to come away with a medal...he wasn't going for Greatness, he was just doing his thing....🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 big ups to him...still one of my favorite sprinter
How about Calvin Smith? Built similarly and held World Record
diiff training (lifting) + gear is why he "peaked" 35+
Never heard of him, but glad I have now. Great video!
He's the 2003 world champion Kim Collins
Such a funny story, i love your vids because of this. Jumpman, you are truly amazing in showing great stories and interesting editing, love it!!
Too much glazing. Thanks brother ahaha
Tbh, I wish Kim Collin's training regiment was more known when I was younger b/c it probably would've been more useful for me having sickle cell anemia. I think I will, w/ my new programming I'm developing, set it up much more like him (luckily I've never hated weights at least lol). The extra rest is definitely needed as a sickle cell patient and could reduce the frequency of burnout I go thru with training at times
Those are some wild Bron pics
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Maximizing those rest days!
T hanks for making this video. Greta story. 😊
A legend and lets face it, many did a double take during is career to know where St Kitts and Nevis was..... As an Aussie hope Gout x 2 becomes an even bigger story. The man from Ipswich taking on the world.
"work ethic of a homeless person" sent me
Mr. jumpman, do you run track
He jumps track
I do, some events better than others. Haha.
Hard work beats talent, more talent beats hard work
I enjoyed this video !
Great Vid!
I also think Collins quit too suddenly, which might seem strange given his age, but I feel like he overreacted to an injury/slow start to a season. Still ...Overreacting to such a setback is probably understandable given his workshy attitude!
if Bolt did 400m or any world-class long-distance runner the ultradistances
I never heard of this guy until today.
Na man, saying Gout Gout can be the next Bolt is too much. We say that of every kid who comes close to the 10 second barrier/breaks it and then sometime later almost all of them have a career threatening/ending injury or get caught for doping.
Haha was a joke. Although did see an interesting video on his step count. Kid takes less steps than every elite but bolt. 43 to make it across 100m!
Bolt was the next Michael Johnson and even ran 400m/200m originally too! The 100m really came out of nowhere! I recall after he ran a really fast time before Beijing, he was asked if he was even going to run the 100m and he told reporters that only if his coach told him to! Wild that if his coach said no that we would missed out on that famous race world record crossing the line looking to the crowd while beating his chest!
Gout Gout absolutely have to goods to be the next Bolt of his generation! he could well be the poster boy of Brisbane 2032!
Also have to add Leslie Tobogo, an outstanding junior, junior WR in the 100m and now Olympic gold medalist in the 200m in only a matter of a few years!
@aguyfromnewzealand3392 Tebogo is truly a great runner. He honestly can do anything from the 100 to the 400 and do wonderful in it. But I stick with what I said about Gout Gout. He's talented for sure but you need to come up with the one example of Tebogo or i guess Knighton to try and make it seem like Gout Gout will be the next Bolt when there's multiple runners who did way faster, got branded as the best Bolt and had a mediocre to moderately succesful career which was miles away from what Bolt did.
Gout Gout is of South Sudanese stock... I'm betting he will grow up to be +7 feet tall. There is a good reason why South Sudan is crazy about NBA. He will switch to basketball during his stint in USA 😂
Great video
Great video beautiful story
I'm also somewhat like Collins, except I don't run, I swim. Lots of my teammates go to the gym and work harder then me and train more frequently. What I've found is when I really want to go fast, I train 2-3 sessions a week and 1-2 technique. I discovered I don't need to lift, I gain muscle every time I swim. Maybe if I also start lifting, I'll run a pb!
Collins and Makwala my 2 all time favorites
What a unique selection
He didnt do much weight training doesnt mean he was lazy
he happily said it himself.
Training 3 times a week for only one hours as a pro sprinter and not knowing basic athlete knowledge like protein powder is in my opinion lazy. now it could be bs since i dont buy that doing the bare minimum gives you that level of results.
@@lordenvincar Total recovery, no static tension from excessively large muscles, fewer nagging injuries and no extra weight to carry.
I really think how successful an athlete is should be assessed by their longevity in their field as well. Kim is definitely the Sfinx of the 100m, surely enjoyed his progression, not necessarily to be the fastest but just to be there at the precious moment with no stress no pressure no expectation just purely joying the moment the magic exitment and intensity of a 100m race, a real example of knowing how to live you own life your own career without worry, just the way it should be lived.
Great vid 😂
Idk whatever he was doing worked for him at the time, maybe he didn’t need the volume and weight training early on but did later, maybe he wouldn’t have had the consistency and longevity. Point is he had a long impressive career and was never clouded with PED accusations, good on him.
It’s stunning that Collins didn’t have a national coach who put his foot down with the training. Coach must have worried Collins wouldn’t bother competing if he had to do serious training.
I think he stuck with his college coach for most of his career, and they already figured it was working.
@The mindset in Europe is different I think. When folks succeeed in 1 or 2 competitions/exams/tests here without trying, we don’t sit back and admire ourselves and party. Our imagination runs riot because we know we got the talent so we build foundation on top with tenacious work and dedication within sensible bounds of course to avoid senseless training injuries. That same ‘don’t fix it less it’s broke’ Caribbean mindset blighted the careers of other athletes and boxers like Kirkland Laing, Lloyd Honeygan and few other athletes. They frustrated the hell out of me whilst I was coming up in the World in the Martial arts ranks during the 90s. All that talent and yet so little discipline, imagination, and vision.
Edit:
What I’m basically saying is that many like myself have a ‘lock it down’ mindset. That’s why we have a hard time understanding how gifted athletes and their associates don’t have that.
Kum Collins from St Kutts was a great sprunter! 😂
Is it that strong? hahaha
Probably the cleanest since 1960 or so.
I dont think i can challenge his status of worlds fastest man but i feel confident that i am just as lazy or lazier than him.
When I was 12 years old live in Melbourne I ran the curve first 100m 400m in 9.03sec second 100m 10.03 third 100m 10.03 forth 100m I pull a hamstring 17sec I wasn't muscular I was skinny fit I'm Australia and Samoan mixed. At 32years old I got so mascular I ran 100m in 6.65sec I consider myself the fastest human ever sprint.
You going to do one on Frankie Fredricks?
Never underestimate dancing as a training modality.
I wonder if Collins (48 today) could break the M45+ world record (10.72) and/or the M50+ worl record (10.88)
(I know he retired after the 2018 season)
I remember when he ran 9.93 at 40 and I was dumbfounded by how he was able to accomplish that at such an advanced age. but I finally get my answer as to why, and the entire time I didn't know it was because he started lifting lol. What a waste of potential and what could've been 😅🤦🏾♂️
He definitely could've gone sub 9.8
Everything you say is true. I always tell people that but they thought I was crazy. This man had the potential to run 9.6 but from my personal experience with him of what he saw that's why I agree. I saw this man at a club 5am in the morning then 2pm the next evening I saw him running some hard 150s plus on top of that he was a man whore. He empty his clips many times that he really should of. If you notice most of his race's he got out very good but couldn't hold. This man train most of his pro career in Jamaica
Long time fan of Kim Collins but also great that you mentioned Jim Hines is is often left out of the all time greats conversations sadly.
I know him because I followed track during his rise.
Apparently he only traine 2-3 times per week "during a competition". In other words he tapered.
Nicely presented bio, Jumpman. I remember the 2003 final, and thinking of Dwain Chambers, who had done everything right up to that point, or so I thought, and thinking, "Right Dwain, is it going to be legend, or Dibbley... legend or Dibbley". And when he finished nowhere, I said, "Dibbley!!!" Little did I know then that he was on the juice and become one of our disgraced sprinters of all time. But of Collins, if he really did stay off the weights for most of his career, then I think he did himself a great favour and will have good health for the remainder of his life. So, yes, I'd say he was a good exponent of the sport.
Many disgraced sprinters in this era. Collins got a few placement upgrades because of it hahahha
You forgot about the guy who invented fosbury flop.
Clearly he never got "enhanced."
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Awesome video and research. Not gonna lie I was a little thrown off by “the work ethic of a homeless person comment,” but might be a cultural thing and differences between American and New Zealander views on homelessness. Given the link between homelessness and mental health, this struck me as uncalled for comparison especially given the casually nature of how you said it. Again love the video and all your work wouldn’t comment otherwise
Appreciate the comment. Honestly a bit of a thoughtless throwaway joke by me. And I think it is a difference in perception of homeless in NZ vs other countries. Wont be repeating the line, live and learn.
Bros before medals
People who think Marcel Jacob's win was a fluke (it wasnt), this was the actual fluke win. A winning time of 10.07? cmon
It was such a bizarre final. The then world record holder Tim Montgomery had a PB (before it was revoked) of 9.78, and he ran 10.11. Perhaps he was off his PED cycle at that time lol
The two slowest athletes in the final the gold and silver. Was a weird year to say the least.
@@JumpmanTFSir, Collins (9.99 Zurich pre-Worlds) and Brown (10.01WJR in Quarters at that very Worlds) were hardly the slowest guys in the field. I get what you are getting at. They were a surprising 1-2 to say the least
On PB wernt they literally the slowest? Or atleast close to it
tbf yohan blake may have only ever ran as fast as he did in that 200m because of "oh shit" adrenaline
The work ethic of a homeless person... wild.
With the vast majority of people one paycheck away from losing their rented flats or even campers, with the vast majority of people in deep debt, with the normal standard of most people having to survive on the street for at least a while during lifetimes after losing stability, in the richest country on earth with the biggest inequality, with homelessness itself as a way of life being very hard to handle including getting no sleep and constantly being hunted by police and criminals and rich people laughing at them, constantly scrambling for means to get through the particular day, living from hour to hour....with all of this information easily available on the internet...
One would think it wouldn't be very logical to punch down on people...
Anyway besides that it was a nice video.
I'm inspired now to party and not train.
lol
I love your sense of humor.
So what you’re saying is:
With just another scoop or two of protein powder per day, I can run really, really fast?
I see a lot of other sprinters injecting protein powder. But I think just an extra scoop will work.
lets not* over-rate weight training though, there’s alot of elite athletes who never used weight, Mike Tyson was one
Bullet Bob Hayes was known as the fastest man ever throughout my youth, back in the sixties and seventies. He had incredible natural talent which overcame flawed technique. For a very long time the Guinness Book of World Records listed his speed of over 27 miles per hour as the fastest ever--and remember, that was on cinder tracks.
Grew up watching collins run. I think it is a bit too far fetched to think he didn't train as hard as everyone else. Was his routine different? yes but everyones trainning style is. Personally, I think he was the last natural sprinter of his time, or atleast wasn't juiced to the gills like everyone else was. He is a guy who prioritized longevity in his career over just being a one hit wonder athlete, which we see today in many athletes. Where they would have one hell of a season, breaking MR, having insane PR's WC winns then all of a sudden dissapearing due to "injuries". No one ever talks about how bad sprinting world is when folks are doping to keep their sponsorships, you get injured much faster, you all of a sudden have heart problems at the age of 40 and so on. With this many sprinters nowdays suffering from injuries, makes me wonder how many peptides they shooting up to get back to the same form.
Never heard of him but probably would have if he just locked tf in 😂.