My first model was Big Daddy Ed Roth's Beatnik car with a bubble top. It cost me one dollar about 1963 . Bought it in a model shop on Gage Ave. In Huntington Park , Ca. I was nine years old , and yes I put it together myself.
Thank you. I felt the 25 scale didn't work easily in the " scale change" system but I didn't know why. So I found this very interesting. I remember AMT would come out with a few then current cars each year in their customizing kits that usually allowed you to build Stock, Custom, or Race/Drag versions.. SO one can see how AMT would like factory plans .
@@ToyManTelevision I saw a video about it a few years ago and although I can't remember the exact details it was all something to do with reducing the size from 1/24 to 1/25 because of the box size
I had to watch this about 3 times to follow you thoroughly. All I know is I like 1:24 scale cars better because they're a little larger and therefore more impressive. I'm just getting back into this scene since the late '60's. Airbrushing wasn't even around back in the late '60's, so I guess it's a trade off. I always hated the orange peel look often encountered with spray cans. I've never used an airbrush, so it'll be a new experience. Great video and I'm subscribing! 😉
G'day Toy Man, and Karyn! Enjoying the videos! (about scales and gauges) You both, had a pretty good movie reference! "Honey, I shrunk the car!" Lol! 😹By the way... What a terrific use of puns! Like... I used to have a full-size wooden car. Wooden wheels, wooden engine, wooden seats. But, when I tried to drive it, it wooden go. Lol! 🤣Thank you! Cheers! ❤🚂✌🏻😊 P.S. Most of the times when we played with miniature vehicles and trains as a kid (and as an adult if we’re being honest), I’d really try to imagine myself in the scale of the worlds. I would set up, a working railroad yard, a driveway race car track, a garden jungle to explore. The excitement of imagining yourself in a miniature perspective.
Oh yea. Lay on the floor. Chin right down there. Lower if you can figure out how. Look the car right in the lug nuts. The train while looking up at it. Even though it’s on the floor. Joy.
Very good to hear some reasons for weirdness of scales. As an O scale guy for years, it’s been very hard to find 1:48th scale vehicles. For photography I’ve used 1:43th and 1:50th vehicles, being careful to place the vehicles closer or farther away from say a passenger railcar.
Yup. Almost all are 1:43.5 scale. Because the pattern models are 1:29th scale. Same problem in F scale. I’m using mostly 1:18th cars because the pattern models were made in 1:8 scale. But some are accurate for me at 1:20th because the pattern model was made at 1:10 scale. Well we are 1:20.3…. But 1:20 is so close as to not be able to tell the difference.
How I've sorted it in my brain - A full sized Mustang - parked. Line up 24 scale models of the car, end to end at 1/24 scale the models will total the real car. 1/25 would require 25 cars. Or 35 cars for 1/35 or 72 cars for 1/72... Thank you for answering the WHY
Ok brain teaser. So a 1/2 scale car.. ok you’d never but it’s a thought experiment so go with it. If the car weighs 4,000 pounds how much does the model weigh? Assuming it’s correct for it’s scale. Which it wouldn’t be but again… thought experiment. Did you guess 2,000 pounds? No? Why? How about 500 pounds? Yup. Cause ya need to use the cube root of the scale. Or weight. Or something.
It doesn't have to be only trains. You're the Toy Man so it can can about any kind of toy you collect . It's just nice to learn something new, like the origins of the different scales and how that affected the hobby industry as a whole. I grew up building car models in 1:24, and 1:8, and trains in High rail "O", And HO. I still model trains in HO, and scale O two rail, and also N.
I have been building model cars and collecting toy cars all my life. The US carmakers were giving details directly to the model companies in the US in 1/10 scale plans, as you said. This was originally for the development of dealer promotional cars all the way back to 1946 for AMT who made the first ones out of aluminum hence the name, Aluminum Model Toys. Kits from Europe generally were the 1/24 scale. Monogram was the first US manufacturer to use 1/24, although there were US brands that made bodies for slot car racing in 1/24. I just always wondered how the "collectors scale" ended up being 1/43 instead of 1/48. Hmmm....
Yup. 1:29 X3=87. HO scale. 1:29X1.5=43.5 making “European O scale” compatible with HO and later REA used those pattern models at 1=1 for their 1/29 scale “G” gauge trains.
Great video. Looked at another first, to see WHY. All I "learned" was the 2 scales were different sizes! Appreciate your knowledge, understanding, and teaching. Merrill Craig
Very interesting information about why we have models in 1/24 and 1/25. Like you pointed out there really isn’t that much difference. Thanks for sharing.
I love you explaining the reasons for the sizes and love the video as usual, but sorry but I have been building models since i was 12 and when I put a 1:25 next to a 1:24 there is a size difference and if it is the same year make model of car modeled, the parts do not interchange. Nascar kits are a place where you really see the difference if you need an example because the same race car can be made in both scales. Another example is both AMT and Monogram/Revell have a 55 Chevy, both are different scales and the Monogram/Revell version is noticeably fatter and longer.
Well, 4 mm is pretty easy to spot when you’re looking directly at it. So if you place, two cars side-by-side, you may notice that one of them is just a tiny bit longer than the other. But when they’re seeing on their own, I frankly cannot tell the difference your concert, a mustang down on a table top, move it away and set another mustang down on the table top and then ask which one is the 25th scale and I honestly wouldn’t be able to tell you.
I remember building model cars in the 60s and 70s. When my shelves started filling up I build a Peterbuilt truck with a car hauler trailer. I think eight cars fit on one trailer. I later built a 1/8 the scale Corvette and went crazy on the detailing of the engine compartment with spark plug wires, hoses, etc. The local Chevy dealer allowed me to photograph the real car so my details would be correct. Most of my collection died a terrible death in the 1987 Whittier Narrows quake. All the shelves rattled off the walls and boom, plastic car parts everywhere.
Sad!!!! Crap!! We live in fear. Had one model die in the 2020 quake. The Covid Quake. Smashed a lot of houses and stuff. They are still repairing the Salt Lake Temple and the City and County building and the Rio Grande depot.
Another excellent show you two! Planes, trains, and automobiles... can't go wrong there! Looking forward to that comparison between the B24 and the B25?🙀😸😹 Happy New Year my friends 🙏🕊️
@@ToyManTelevision Oh my!! That plane is incredible isn't it? So if I may,a little more family history 🙀... I think I mentioned that my dad taught at USU for 20 years(meteorology), but in addition to the other aspects of his (our), life (s) he was a USAF Col (campus recruiter for the academy). That stuff is part of my DNA for sure 😊 Thanks and take care of yourselves 😻😸✌️
Im growing weary of scales and gauges. Looking forward to watching you building your railroad or visiting a model train show or watching Mrs Toy Man building something.
You can tell the scale between 1/25 and 1/24 scale cars, if you try to put the engine from a Revell 1/25 scale Chevy kit that came with a small-block engine and you try to mate it to the transmission that came with Tamiya Tremec T5 transmission, the bellhousing is larger than the back of the engine.
Having been a draftsman (manual drawing and CAD) I see your point. We draftsman (manual) had two Kinds "SCALES" (scales are not rulers). Theses scales were Architectural (feet and inches) and engineering ( inches divided by 10, 20, 100, etc.,,) Generally used in any part of civil engineering. In CAD we still used feet and inches for Architectural, but for mechanical engineering we used (mainly decimal inches). Being in the US we would convert Metric into inches by multiplying millimeters by .03937. I never did any civil engineering drafting. after the Civil drafting course. So, I suppose, model cars, and other mechanical stuff is best dome using engineering "scaling" while all the same using either feet and inch dimensions or decimal dimensions. YA RIGHT. I too wondered why some model cars were 1/24 and some 1/25. I guessed it was to stop us from using different manufactures parts to kit bash a custom model. I used to love using parts from the Willies Gasser to kit bash other kits. ;-)
Coolest information!!!’ Thanks. I’ve used a 1/20 scale rule but it doesn’t always work. I don’t recall why… but often I cheat my 1:20.3 scale. In fact mostly. Because it’s the look we are after. It’s not like cheating on taxes. Or a math these. It’s like lying to your shrink. Shrink.. scale. Shrink. See what I did there?
1/25th scale seems to have been entirely an American scale, except for Monogram and a few others who used 1/24th. British, European, and Japanese makers all use 1/24th. Some US kits sold by other companies in foreign markets are listed as 1/25th, but some were re-labelled 1/24th, such as the US MPC kits sold by Airfix in the 1960s. Do not forget 1/28th scale - no idea where that fits in. If you are looking for 1/48th scale vehicle kits, try some of the military vehicles in this scale. Tamiya do a WW2 US Army Staff Car which is a 1940s Ford Sedan. There are some truck kits available, and things like Jeeps. British O is 7mm to the foot; OO is 4mm to the foot; HO is 3.5mm to the foot; British TT is 3mm to the foot, but European TT is 2.5mm to the foot; and British OOO (very close to modern N) is 2mm to the foot. In the world of ship modelling 1/1200th scale is 1 inch equals 100 feet. A lot of the 1/50th scale kits by Heller, Fujimi, and others were later re-labelled 1/48th. Scale - the Modeller's Nightmare.
@@ToyManTelevision I have only just noticed this: Revell mostly used 1/25th scale for their car kits, but 1/24th scale for their slot car models. That seems a bit odd.
Ooh, you briefly mention the illusive 1:20 scale. (Illusive to cars anyway!) I've been lucky to find a few. Have we really been talking scales for 12 weeks??? It does seem that long, so it must be interesting. Haha!
Compare Revell's 1/25 53/54 Chevy Gasser with their 1/24 53 Chevy ( Lowrider) Pretty big difference . ( Actually I think the 53 lowrider is a 54... but I'm not sure. But they are different kits. ) Compare the engines... pertty big difference. The larger the car, the larger the difference ... the small difference accumulates as one adds length... ( and bulk ) I can't say for sure each kit is correct in scale... but they look to be about correct. When I was a kid, Revell did 1/24 and AMT did 1/25 .. 1/24 is popular in europe and Japan. I prefer it too...but its not as popular in the US as we all know. I don't like to mix scales. .. some don't care and thats ok with me. Modelling is all about having fun .
Well that depends. If you’re using G scale trains. Like LGB, then nothing is really correct. Most people use 1:24 or 1:25. Because there are so many made and they are just a tiny bit smaller. On Bachmann 1:20.3 scale most people use 1:18 scale. A bit too large. There are a few 1:20 cars but very few. And mostly race cars.
Makes very little difference to me. Built similar models like a revell 24 1978 chevy el camino and its right next to a mpc 25 1979 el camino. The difference is nominal. The width of the cars are nearly identical. Great video.
minute ina half in and I am just cracking up, Karyn yer kill'in me, laffing so hard, you are sooo awesome... washed the car...lol... ty guys, happy new year to you and everyone out there! Also, I think the answer to the age old question is: How are you gonna get your cobra back up to 1:1 scale size????
@@markdeschane4467 Renwal made car kits in 1/48th scale. Also the 1950s Dinkys are in 1/48th scale. The re-issued Atlas Dinkys are easily available on Ebay.. Solido and Corgi do commercial vehicles in 1/50th scale which look right against 1/48th scale vehicles.
I respectfully disagree. I can visibly see the difference in 1/24 and 1/25 when sitting side by side.. I am a model builder and parts of the exact same car in 1/24 will not fit on 1/25. And visa versa.
I always assumed the 1/24 was based on the 1/2 to the foot rule, not knowing about the existence of 1/8 scale pattern models. And 1/25 somehow being metric related as I did not know about the automaker blueprints being scaled at 1/10. How wrong I was. on both accounts. But my humiliation in being wrong twice was offset by Karyn's obsessing over the model Shelby.
Hi Dale 🙂 I sent an email to you about a water based, smoke generator for 'G' scale steam engines. I hope you enjoyed the video clip. The 'smoke generator' can be made for under $6.00. Not to bad! Happy New Year ! 🙂
Well Christmas came late. Even past 3 Kings day. The Z scale trains now have a new train. Z scale train sets (formerly made in China) (yeah I know theGermans make them too!). But the American locomotives were typically made in China. Well their government has chosen not to supply those to us decadent Americans. One can find the on EBay however. Another great episode.
What is a good beginner N gauge train set to start out with. Had one but threw it out because the electric was never right. Kept stopping and you had to keep moving the connection to get it to run full circle. At 74 I just wanted something to work around the Christmas tree. Was a waste of money.
Good to know. I wish people back in ca 1920 would think in metric; then we would have planes, trains and automobiles in 1/25, 1/50, 1/75 and 1/100. I really wish that had happened :-(
That explains why many trucks and industrial machines are at 1/50, and not the common 1/43.5 for car. Maybe OK for O scale but it start to be quite small for Zéro (1/43.5). What I don't understand is the 1/50 scale for helicopters, Heller and some other use (or used) it instead of 1/48, even when making airplanes at 1/48. And why 1/50 for Japanese locomotives plastic kits? Even for Cap gauge, it don't make sense.
I suspect it’s for the same reason although I don’t know. Drafts people work in 1/10 scale because it’s so easy to do the math. Essentially the same reasons but metric is generally easier than imperial. But these common scales are based on imperial 1:8 1:12, 1:16 etc. Where ten based numbers are easy when scaling. And almost necessary when working from metric.
Not to toss a wrench in the works... not all car maker's used 1/10 or 1/8 scale for their body and chassis drawings. Some like King Midget and Crosley used 1/4 scale. A family friend was a collector of older small cars and machinery he was into documentation. He was a big collector of old shop/production drawing and blueprints of the old cars and machinery. Kind of an odd hobby for a 50s and 60s airline pilot. As he said, "Aviation is my career, old cars and machinery are my hobby." I wonder what would his car and machinery drawings be worth today to someone restoring an old car or engine?
A lot of words for nonsense. 24 is a multiple of 12 which is a foot. That’s how we built the world. 1/25 is the closest base 10 equivalent it’s just a coincidence. 🙈
It’s not really a coincidence. Most of the world is gone to using metric, and based in numbers. America is still hanging on to feet and inches. But Bachman Models for being made with the pantagraph you needed to scale things to either a base 12 or a base 10.
My first model was Big Daddy Ed Roth's Beatnik car with a bubble top. It cost me one dollar about 1963 . Bought it in a model shop on Gage Ave. In Huntington Park , Ca. I was nine years old , and yes I put it together myself.
Very cool! Love that model!
Thank you. I felt the 25 scale didn't work easily in the " scale change" system but I didn't know why. So I found this very interesting. I remember AMT would come out with a few then current cars each year in their customizing kits that usually allowed you to build Stock, Custom, or Race/Drag versions.. SO one can see how AMT would like factory plans .
I always wondered about car model scales.Thank you for answering the age old question.
Any time!
Wonderful topic today. I have built model cars since about 1960, always wondered about that but never knew why,
You and me both!😊
@@ToyManTelevision
I saw a video about it a few years ago and although I can't remember the exact details it was all something to do with reducing the size from 1/24 to 1/25 because of the box size
I had to watch this about 3 times to follow you thoroughly. All I know is I like 1:24 scale cars better because they're a little larger and therefore more impressive. I'm just getting back into this scene since the late '60's. Airbrushing wasn't even around back in the late '60's, so I guess it's a trade off. I always hated the orange peel look often encountered with spray cans. I've never used an airbrush, so it'll be a new experience. Great video and I'm subscribing! 😉
Doing models all my life and never knew all that !!
Me too! Always wondered. 😮
G'day Toy Man, and Karyn! Enjoying the videos! (about scales and gauges) You both, had a pretty good movie reference! "Honey, I shrunk the car!" Lol! 😹By the way... What a terrific use of puns! Like... I used to have a full-size wooden car. Wooden wheels, wooden engine, wooden seats. But, when I tried to drive it, it wooden go. Lol! 🤣Thank you!
Cheers! ❤🚂✌🏻😊
P.S. Most of the times when we played with miniature vehicles and trains as a kid (and as an adult if we’re being honest), I’d really try to imagine myself in the scale of the worlds. I would set up, a working railroad yard, a driveway race car track, a garden jungle to explore. The excitement of imagining yourself in a miniature perspective.
Oh yea. Lay on the floor. Chin right down there. Lower if you can figure out how. Look the car right in the lug nuts. The train while looking up at it. Even though it’s on the floor. Joy.
Very good to hear some reasons for weirdness of scales. As an O scale guy for years, it’s been very hard to find 1:48th scale vehicles. For photography I’ve used 1:43th and 1:50th vehicles, being careful to place the vehicles closer or farther away from say a passenger railcar.
Yup. Almost all are 1:43.5 scale. Because the pattern models are 1:29th scale. Same problem in F scale. I’m using mostly 1:18th cars because the pattern models were made in 1:8 scale. But some are accurate for me at 1:20th because the pattern model was made at 1:10 scale. Well we are 1:20.3…. But 1:20 is so close as to not be able to tell the difference.
This is a cool and fun video. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed this video.
Thanks!!
How I've sorted it in my brain -
A full sized Mustang - parked. Line up 24 scale models of the car, end to end at 1/24 scale the models will total the real car. 1/25 would require 25 cars. Or 35 cars for 1/35 or 72 cars for 1/72...
Thank you for answering the WHY
Ok brain teaser. So a 1/2 scale car.. ok you’d never but it’s a thought experiment so go with it. If the car weighs 4,000 pounds how much does the model weigh? Assuming it’s correct for it’s scale. Which it wouldn’t be but again… thought experiment. Did you guess 2,000 pounds? No? Why? How about 500 pounds? Yup. Cause ya need to use the cube root of the scale. Or weight. Or something.
imaginary and it is length only. It's just a quick think conversion
It doesn't have to be only trains. You're the Toy Man so it can can about any kind of toy you collect . It's just nice to learn something new, like the origins of the different scales and how that affected the hobby industry as a whole. I grew up building car models in 1:24, and 1:8, and trains in High rail "O", And HO. I still model trains in HO, and scale O two rail, and also N.
I have been building model cars and collecting toy cars all my life. The US carmakers were giving details directly to the model companies in the US in 1/10 scale plans, as you said. This was originally for the development of dealer promotional cars all the way back to 1946 for AMT who made the first ones out of aluminum hence the name, Aluminum Model Toys. Kits from Europe generally were the 1/24 scale. Monogram was the first US manufacturer to use 1/24, although there were US brands that made bodies for slot car racing in 1/24. I just always wondered how the "collectors scale" ended up being 1/43 instead of 1/48. Hmmm....
1/43 is European O Scale model trains.
Yup. 1:29 X3=87. HO scale. 1:29X1.5=43.5 making “European O scale” compatible with HO and later REA used those pattern models at 1=1 for their 1/29 scale “G” gauge trains.
Great video. Looked at another first, to see WHY. All I "learned" was the 2 scales were different sizes! Appreciate your knowledge, understanding, and teaching. Merrill Craig
Very interesting information about why we have models in 1/24 and 1/25. Like you pointed out there really isn’t that much difference. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!!
Never boring. Karyn you could get into the Shelby? It looks like and Dale can push you around the house. Tee hee!
I love you explaining the reasons for the sizes and love the video as usual, but sorry but I have been building models since i was 12 and when I put a 1:25 next to a 1:24 there is a size difference and if it is the same year make model of car modeled, the parts do not interchange. Nascar kits are a place where you really see the difference if you need an example because the same race car can be made in both scales. Another example is both AMT and Monogram/Revell have a 55 Chevy, both are different scales and the Monogram/Revell version is noticeably fatter and longer.
Well, 4 mm is pretty easy to spot when you’re looking directly at it. So if you place, two cars side-by-side, you may notice that one of them is just a tiny bit longer than the other. But when they’re seeing on their own, I frankly cannot tell the difference your concert, a mustang down on a table top, move it away and set another mustang down on the table top and then ask which one is the 25th scale and I honestly wouldn’t be able to tell you.
It’s sooooooooo nice that you are TRAINing us all about scale, even if you need to use a car. 🚂🚂🚂
Great information Thank you Have a great week
Thanks, you too!
I remember building model cars in the 60s and 70s. When my shelves started filling up I build a Peterbuilt truck with a car hauler trailer. I think eight cars fit on one trailer. I later built a 1/8 the scale Corvette and went crazy on the detailing of the engine compartment with spark plug wires, hoses, etc. The local Chevy dealer allowed me to photograph the real car so my details would be correct. Most of my collection died a terrible death in the 1987 Whittier Narrows quake. All the shelves rattled off the walls and boom, plastic car parts everywhere.
Sad!!!! Crap!! We live in fear. Had one model die in the 2020 quake. The Covid Quake. Smashed a lot of houses and stuff. They are still repairing the Salt Lake Temple and the City and County building and the Rio Grande depot.
You guys boring never, I never knew how they figure that out for the model cars thanks for the info 👍👍
Our pleasure!
Another excellent show you two! Planes, trains, and automobiles... can't go wrong there! Looking forward to that comparison between the B24 and the B25?🙀😸😹
Happy New Year my friends 🙏🕊️
And the new B21!!
@@ToyManTelevision Oh my!! That plane is incredible isn't it? So if I may,a little more family history 🙀... I think I mentioned that my dad taught at USU for 20 years(meteorology), but in addition to the other aspects of his (our), life (s) he was a USAF Col (campus recruiter for the academy). That stuff is part of my DNA for sure 😊 Thanks and take care of yourselves 😻😸✌️
Im growing weary of scales and gauges. Looking forward to watching you building your railroad or visiting a model train show or watching Mrs Toy Man building something.
Well coming up. But still screwing around with scales. HO now. Big subject. Smaller trains.
You can tell the scale between 1/25 and 1/24 scale cars, if you try to put the engine from a Revell 1/25 scale Chevy kit that came with a small-block engine and you try to mate it to the transmission that came with Tamiya Tremec T5 transmission, the bellhousing is larger than the back of the engine.
Close though..
excellent video !!
Thanks!
very interesting thanks
Having been a draftsman (manual drawing and CAD) I see your point.
We draftsman (manual) had two Kinds "SCALES" (scales are not rulers). Theses scales were Architectural (feet and inches) and engineering ( inches divided by 10, 20, 100, etc.,,) Generally used in any part of civil engineering.
In CAD we still used feet and inches for Architectural, but for mechanical engineering we used (mainly decimal inches). Being in the US we would convert Metric into inches by multiplying millimeters by .03937. I never did any civil engineering drafting. after the Civil drafting course.
So, I suppose, model cars, and other mechanical stuff is best dome using engineering "scaling" while all the same using either feet and inch dimensions or decimal dimensions. YA RIGHT.
I too wondered why some model cars were 1/24 and some 1/25. I guessed it was to stop us from using different manufactures parts to kit bash a custom model. I used to love using parts from the Willies Gasser to kit bash other kits. ;-)
Coolest information!!!’ Thanks. I’ve used a 1/20 scale rule but it doesn’t always work. I don’t recall why… but often I cheat my 1:20.3 scale. In fact mostly. Because it’s the look we are after. It’s not like cheating on taxes. Or a math these. It’s like lying to your shrink. Shrink.. scale. Shrink. See what I did there?
Great video
Thanks again!!
Very interesting info thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Love the T-Shirts, speaking of T-Shirts do you have a store? Keep up the great Screwing around!!! 👊👊👊👊👊
No store.. thought about doing that. But no. Glad you got the shirts!!!!
1/25th scale seems to have been entirely an American scale, except for Monogram and a few others who used 1/24th. British, European, and Japanese makers all use 1/24th. Some US kits sold by other companies in foreign markets are listed as 1/25th, but some were re-labelled 1/24th, such as the US MPC kits sold by Airfix in the 1960s. Do not forget 1/28th scale - no idea where that fits in.
If you are looking for 1/48th scale vehicle kits, try some of the military vehicles in this scale. Tamiya do a WW2 US Army Staff Car which is a 1940s Ford Sedan. There are some truck kits available, and things like Jeeps.
British O is 7mm to the foot; OO is 4mm to the foot; HO is 3.5mm to the foot; British TT is 3mm to the foot, but European TT is 2.5mm to the foot; and British OOO (very close to modern N) is 2mm to the foot.
In the world of ship modelling 1/1200th scale is 1 inch equals 100 feet.
A lot of the 1/50th scale kits by Heller, Fujimi, and others were later re-labelled 1/48th.
Scale - the Modeller's Nightmare.
Thanks!! I’m wondering if 1:28 was to get better compatibility with HO? Be odd for sure. And should be 1:29. But ???? 29x3=87.
@@ToyManTelevision I have only just noticed this: Revell mostly used 1/25th scale for their car kits, but 1/24th scale for their slot car models. That seems a bit odd.
Ooh, you briefly mention the illusive 1:20 scale. (Illusive to cars anyway!) I've been lucky to find a few.
Have we really been talking scales for 12 weeks??? It does seem that long, so it must be interesting. Haha!
Hi. Lots of 1:20 cars. Just nothing you want to use on a railroad! Lots of 2970’s corvettes. Lamborghini. F1. Yea… F1 on a D and RGW railroad!!
Now.. Hubbly kits… great!! But hard to build. But turn out great!!
@@ToyManTelevision Yes, lots of F1 and European cars I see. I DO have a Hubley kit waiting to be built, plus a few others 😉
Compare Revell's 1/25 53/54 Chevy Gasser with their 1/24 53 Chevy ( Lowrider) Pretty big difference . ( Actually I think the 53 lowrider is a 54... but I'm not sure. But they are different kits. ) Compare the engines... pertty big difference. The larger the car, the larger the difference ... the small difference accumulates as one adds length... ( and bulk ) I can't say for sure each kit is correct in scale... but they look to be about correct.
When I was a kid, Revell did 1/24 and AMT did 1/25 .. 1/24 is popular in europe and Japan. I prefer it too...but its not as popular in the US as we all know. I don't like to mix scales. .. some don't care and thats ok with me. Modelling is all about having fun .
So what scale should I use for my g scale garden set up?
Well that depends. If you’re using G scale trains. Like LGB, then nothing is really correct. Most people use 1:24 or 1:25. Because there are so many made and they are just a tiny bit smaller. On Bachmann 1:20.3 scale most people use 1:18 scale. A bit too large. There are a few 1:20 cars but very few. And mostly race cars.
Makes very little difference to me. Built similar models like a revell 24 1978 chevy el camino and its right next to a mpc 25 1979 el camino. The difference is nominal. The width of the cars are nearly identical. Great video.
Right on. The key is building and having fun
minute ina half in and I am just cracking up, Karyn yer kill'in me, laffing so hard, you are sooo awesome... washed the car...lol... ty guys, happy new year to you and everyone out there! Also, I think the answer to the age old question is: How are you gonna get your cobra back up to 1:1 scale size????
Can’t. So ya shrink yourself. Save a fortune on beer. One can lasts 5 years.
My eyes are glazed over! Karyn is such a sport! O.K. why 1/43rd scale and not 1/48th, for O scale cars.
The English use 1/43rd scale for their O gauge trains.
@@amraceway So do I. However, it would be better to have 1/48th, which is basically not available!
@@markdeschane4467 Renwal made car kits in 1/48th scale. Also the 1950s Dinkys are in 1/48th scale. The re-issued Atlas Dinkys are easily available on Ebay.. Solido and Corgi do commercial vehicles in 1/50th scale which look right against 1/48th scale vehicles.
I respectfully disagree. I can visibly see the difference in 1/24 and 1/25 when sitting side by side.. I am a model builder and parts of the exact same car in 1/24 will not fit on 1/25. And visa versa.
Luca Cee did a video comparing the same car year and model in both 1/24 & 1/25 and you would be truley surprised at how much difference is there.
4mm isn’t much. But it’s noticeable.
I always assumed the 1/24 was based on the 1/2 to the foot rule, not knowing about the existence of 1/8 scale pattern models. And 1/25 somehow being metric related as I did not know about the automaker blueprints being scaled at 1/10. How wrong I was. on both accounts. But my humiliation in being wrong twice was offset by Karyn's obsessing over the model Shelby.
Well the 1/10 scale drawing is basically the same thinking as metric. Keep the math simple.
BTW, I was watching this as it was being loaded and my computer shut down in the middle of it! ARRRGH!
Hi Dale 🙂 I sent an email to you about a water based, smoke generator for 'G' scale steam engines. I hope you enjoyed the video clip. The 'smoke generator' can be made for under $6.00. Not to bad! Happy New Year ! 🙂
I’ll look for it. Thanks
I never knew this.
I'm waiting for spaceships next after the planes ha ha!
Hum… wish I could load a photo!
Any update on Adam Pinales’ pool and railroad?
Yup. He started over!!! Sigh. Anyway in the spring we are headed back.
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The invention of model scales was followed closely by the invention of aspirin.
Sprained WHAT??
Well Christmas came late. Even past 3 Kings day. The Z scale trains now have a new train. Z scale train sets (formerly made in China) (yeah I know theGermans make them too!). But the American locomotives were typically made in China. Well their government has chosen not to supply those to us decadent Americans. One can find the on EBay however. Another great episode.
Hi Ken. China can’t keep up. Oddly the people there now want a living wage. Go figure.
@@ToyManTelevision Yeah go figure! Capitalism will crush Communism.
Illuminating!
Thanks!!
What is a good beginner N gauge train set to start out with. Had one but threw it out because the electric was never right. Kept stopping and you had to keep moving the connection to get it to run full circle. At 74 I just wanted something to work around the Christmas tree. Was a waste of money.
Kato starter set.
@@tgmccoy1556 Thank you very much!!!!
Good to know. I wish people back in ca 1920 would think in metric; then we would have planes, trains and automobiles in 1/25, 1/50, 1/75 and 1/100. I really wish that had happened :-(
It’s so much better. I use it in modeling most of the time.
Watching now
Coolest.
Happy new year
Happy new year
Hello from Detroit Michigan brother happy new year
Hello!! Hope the weather there is better!
@@ToyManTelevision We had cold and just a few inches of snow not bad normal Michigan
That explains why many trucks and industrial machines are at 1/50, and not the common 1/43.5 for car. Maybe OK for O scale but it start to be quite small for Zéro (1/43.5).
What I don't understand is the 1/50 scale for helicopters, Heller and some other use (or used) it instead of 1/48, even when making airplanes at 1/48. And why 1/50 for Japanese locomotives plastic kits? Even for Cap gauge, it don't make sense.
I suspect it’s for the same reason although I don’t know. Drafts people work in 1/10 scale because it’s so easy to do the math. Essentially the same reasons but metric is generally easier than imperial. But these common scales are based on imperial 1:8 1:12, 1:16 etc. Where ten based numbers are easy when scaling. And almost necessary when working from metric.
Not to toss a wrench in the works... not all car maker's used 1/10 or 1/8 scale for their body and chassis drawings. Some like King Midget and Crosley used 1/4 scale. A family friend was a collector of older small cars and machinery he was into documentation. He was a big collector of old shop/production drawing and blueprints of the old cars and machinery.
Kind of an odd hobby for a 50s and 60s airline pilot. As he said, "Aviation is my career, old cars and machinery are my hobby."
I wonder what would his car and machinery drawings be worth today to someone restoring an old car or engine?
Wow!!!!
Are you sure your show on the B-24 & B-25 isn't going to bomb!☺
Thx again
I hope not. It’s a show on de fence.
I’ll never figure out live chat…. All comments gone? Missing? Stolen?? Liberated?
Live chat doesn't work on my Kindle Fire. :(
Now the real question: when are the scale boats joining the Chanel?🤣😁😉
U Boats?
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A lot of words for nonsense. 24 is a multiple of 12 which is a foot. That’s how we built the world. 1/25 is the closest base 10 equivalent it’s just a coincidence. 🙈
It’s not really a coincidence. Most of the world is gone to using metric, and based in numbers. America is still hanging on to feet and inches. But Bachman Models for being made with the pantagraph you needed to scale things to either a base 12 or a base 10.
Ha ha ha the ho ho ho 😂🤣👍
Editing HO just now!