The Truth About Expensive v Budget Wedges
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- CHEAP v EXPENSIVE Wedges - (Surprising Results)
Matt Fryer Golf tries cheap and premium golf wedges to see if there any differences and which one you should be buying
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Nothing wrong with cheaper clubs they're great for beginners and people who don't have the money for the big brands just getting out to play is what it's all about
Yep good point
No price tag on enjoying the game. Clubs are getting so expensive the average golfer is being forced to look at cheaper alternatives. Who has 600 US laying around for a driver! That’s just one club!
I am brand new to golf in the past month or so. I keep watching club reviews and every one of them applies so much importance to how good looking the clubs are. Honestly it's to such a level that it's making me question taking up golf at all. In a review like this one the difference in club price isn't 20 vs 40 or 40 vs 60. It's 10 times the price. Ten. Times. The. Price. There is absolutely no way I am going to get 10 times the enjoyment from the premium clubs. I just want to play. No one will be looking at my clubs. No one will be assessing their wear after 10 bunker shots. If someone were to be doing that....? Well then maybe golf isn't the game for me after all.
Old comment I know. I am in the same boat, Iv gone with the approach of buying 2nd hand. Managed to build my golf bag for under £600, my friend who has been playing a few years was spitting feathers, when I told him how much they all cost, as it was half the amount he spent on irons alone.
Too many golfers are snobby bunch. They even make fun of someone who has head covers for their irons
@@ronalansing8205haven’t seen that in person yet, put have seen some videos of people making fun of this. Golf is a difficult as it is and they probably need to make fun of those due to having a bad game.
I used to feel this way too when I was learning the game. As I got more confident with my game, I realized how much confidence with golf really matters.
Liking looking down at your club and feeling good about it can make the difference feeling good or bad about the shot.
Some people might be snobs but some people also just want to feel good looking down at their club every time
When buying cheap wedges consider your loft and bounce. If you select your preference, then you can change the grips for $15 a piece which is still well below the name brands. I would be hard pressed to identify the need for a custom shaft given the nature of the club. The performance of a wedge, like all other golf clubs, is still about the skill of the user.
Great video Matt I used a 60 and a 64 in the v100s and I couldn't stop thinning the 64 so I fiddled about with the grind until it was OK and it became the most fun to hit I still use it for chipping around the garden
Quality stuff Matt. You are the leader in this interesting market of golf we are all experiencing. After 35 years of playing the cost of the top brands is astronomical and disappointing. Its so good to see all the levels you share with us. Keep it up pal.
I'm a improving golfer and have the 60° slazy, it's fairly good for how cheap it is and not scared to kick the hell out of it
Great video. Plenty of options out there for what a player is looking for. The wedges in my bag now were bought 2nd hand from private sellers. SM4 52* for $30 and a SM6 56* for $45, both in good enough condition for my needs. Bought them in the off season after new wedges were released.
I started with cheap wedges and used them for years. No problems, no qualms, no regrets. I eventually bought wedges with more bounce because I was specifically looking for bunker help. Those were great getting out of bunkers but made tight lies more difficult. I improved to no longer need extra help out of bunkers. I now play wedges with more traditional bounces that allow more shot versatility with bunkers, tight lies, rough, deep rough and flop shots. My advice: get clubs that fit your budget and help you play better. Your score on the card is ALWAYS more important than the name on your clubs. I also have a black Cleveland Zipcore wedge and the black finish is well worn from much use. No black club will ever hold its finish. And 500 revs from 11K is nothing.
I've got one of those V300 wedges in with an otherwise decent bag of clubs, and it's great. Plus I'm not bothered if it gets mullered on rocks etc. When I picked up a Titleist lob wedge as an upgrade I ended up going back to my cheap one.
I’d have to look up pounds vs dollars. However the less expensive wedges are a tenth the price you can (on a budget) replace them every year!! Going to stop by our sporting goods store this week!! Thanks for your help!!
For the cheaper / starter golfer, get a set of irons 5-GW (modern stronger lofts), something like a Cobra Speedzone or TaylorMade M4, then just buy the Kirkland wedge set for 140 quid! The forgiveness irons will have a 48* GW which blends perfectly into the 52/56/60 Kirkland. Just my opinion on a set that’ll do the job and last into the mid/low handicap range.
A $15 wedge that spins at 10,500 is stunning. I’ll always be a Cleveland guy but for $15, that thing is an absolute steal.
Just got a wonderful cavity back 52 degree. I have so much confidence with it.
Very interesting and informative seriously think the major brands totally rip us players off
Nice video! Would have been interesting to get variation numbers on spin, ball speed and distance. After hitting 10 balls, I doubt that all of them had exactly the same numbers. So the variation between is for me one of the most important factors. My fitting would be done for distance, so if a club goes 82 yards or 96 doesn't matter that much, as long as it 'always' goes the same distance. A better wedge should have a tighter dispersion of those numbers.
Great video Matt. I really like this type of comparison as it gives new golfers the confidence to start off with the cheaper clubs knowing they will still do the job without spending a fortune
Yep can deffo do that and change as you improve
The Kirkland wedge set is amazing
I replaced my Clevelands with them a year ago and they perform just aswell if not better and have a great feel
I can only agree with this. Clubs are very expensive here in Australia, and I bought a set of three Kirkland wedges (52°, 56° and 60°) from Costco for the same price I would have to pay for one top brand wedge. The Kirklands look great, feel great, play great and seem to offer very good quality materials, design and construction for the money.
Can you buy the Kirkland wedges in UK?
@@samwhite8093 yes. I bought them and are still in costco today
Kirkland wedges perform exceptionally with consistent spin
I grabbed the Kirkland set (52/56/60) last year for $179 Canadian. I blew my wad on new P790s and Callaway Rogue Woods last year so I thought saving $500 Canadian was a good idea. So far the Kirkland wedges have exceeded my expectations. Will continue to play these for now as they are not hurting my game at all.
50 dollar/pound wedges are definitely a sweet spot for me. Tried Pinemeadow wedge about six years ago because it was $49.99 US. I regripped myself for $10. Tried it once and immediately kicked my Volkey to the shed, not because of the price. I PREFER IT
I played with someone today that had the Kirkland Wedges from Costco. Those thing spun as well as my RTXs! Definitely getting those for my next set of wedges.
I have the v100 64° lob wedge, just to see if i would use one. Had it 2 years now and it is handy from under the lip on bunkers or needing the ball to drop vertically to clear an obstruction with little green to work with.
Shame about my lack of talent which occasionally means a 100yd thin from greenside.
same here. maybe 1 shot a round, but it works every time from greenside bunkers.
I have the Costco wedge set and I love it. Worked better than my Callaway SW. But I think I agree with some of the experts who say most golfers shouldn't carry a lob wedge. It isn't the easiest to hit. For a good golfer like Matt, the difference in spin probably does make a difference. But with the average golfer they probably are not going to generate that kind of spin to begin with. So the difference in spin might not be noticeable. Nice video Matt!
Been thinking about getting some old second hand Titleist wedges and refurbishing them myself
I could be equally as bad with a £150 club as a £15 club. It would be interesting to see how £50 wedges like the Inesis or Kirklands compare to the premium ones. Logically they would be my progression from my cheap ones as I improve.
I have the v300 wedge: I think it looks and performs great.
Good to hear it
Started the game about three years ago, didn't want to spend alot so I went to gigagolf online.
I had my specs from a previous visit to a major golf retailer, was able to get four wedges with graphite shafts and better grips fitted to me for $130. Perfect for my game level.
Great review Matt, so many youtube golf reviewers would automatically poo poo the cheap stuff.
Thanks Matt, just wondering if there's a good budget option which is a little more durable and better feeling? Would second hand be the way to go?
A full wedge comparison video - esp including Kirkland (which I currently have in the bag) - would be amazing
Great Video,to be honest I was surprised to see such close spin on the fuller shots however I think Wetting the faces with a little squirty bottle before each hit will show the biggest difference. It's Something I do in fittings for clients when trying to the best spin retention
People can be influenced to have different perspectives and perceptions. So a big trend over the past number of years has been the stronger lofts on irons and longer distances gained and less spin generally. This is put forward by manufacturers as an improvement in technology with hotter faces, etc. So here we have a wedge with 'inferior' technology that goes further and with less spin. Makes one think, especially for higher handicappers!
Discerning golfers, here is a more distinct question and perspective: what would be the difference in performance (spin, carry and total distance) between a Cleveland RTX 54° wedge and a Slazenger V300 56° wedge? Would be an interesting test!
I once had a Slazenger v100 60° wedge that went 130 yards and I genuinely just thought that was the norm until my local head pro got a hold of it and realised it had the loft of a pw
😂
I have the v100 slazenger in 60deg in the bag purely for bunker shots. I hate the thought of damaging an expensive wedge in the sand.
All my other wedges are CBX2’s and only ever see grass.
Wedges are like putters. They are very personal. Find a great one, keep it forever. Mine is a TaylorMade HiToe.
I like the concept here and I cant argue with anything you've shown. I would, however, like to see more mid grade cheaper clubs versus those absurdly cheap wedges. Like a $50-70ish versus 100-130ish. I cant even believe there are wedges that cheap! I thought about $40 was the lowest of the low!
Plus they perform amazing
Great video Matt! I faced this dilemma when I first started. Ended up delving into the second hand market which was the best of both worlds IMO
Would be interesting to have a 2nd hand premium wedge thats a few years old and how that compares by a nee cheap club
Fun Fact - when your ball lands on the green , its spinning at about 5% its innitial spin rate on a full shot , and about 20% on a 90 yard pitch shot.
That means it makes hardly any difference which wedge you play. The best thing is to replace your wedges as often as you can afford
Dunlop Slazenger one and the same company, Slazenger as used by one Señor Severiano Ballesteros Sota. Dunlop Slazenger are now are owned by Srixon Cleveland!!
I always say play with the cheap set of clubs until your breaking 90 then spend
Great stuff buddy
Thanks Frank
Wedges aside, what do you think of the Mizuno clothing Matt?
Have you tried the Kirkland v2 wedges. Whole set for $149 in the states. 52 56 60
Maybe compare the cheap ones with second hand versions of the premium clubs?
I got a Slazenger v1000. Been updating my clubs every year but the cheap wedge keeps it spot. Its so reliable...why change
This might sound weird but, when testing these clubs do you find your self slightly off when you go back to your own clubs? When I try others out like that it feels a little off when I go back to my own clubs. Usually it takes just a couple of hot to go back to my own. Just curious
Sometimes yes....makes me want to change clubs every week 🤦♂️😂🤦♂️
You essentially get 3 rounds of golf for free with the cheap wedges vs the expensive ones with very little drop in performance (unless you are a skilled pro). At the end of the day we all want to play and we can do that with any set of clubs.
Could you do this test again, but with mid-range wedges? Like maybe some Tommy Armour, Bombtech, Kirkland, Pinemeadow - or something similar? You went SUPER cheap, but what about something more reasonable? Maybe we are all wasting our money paying $170 for a wedge when we could be paying, say $50-$65?
Inesis 900 wedges. Incredible.
Tbh Costco has a deal a 52 56 and a 60 for 150 USD that is a hella good deal
the bounce on cheap wedges is what lets them down. a high handicapper might score similarly with a cheapy over a vokey but with a vokey they can learn different shots and progress faster. a flop with a wilson for me is like 95% more likely to be bladed into orbit than a more specialty club. in fact wedges are the one thing i'd say a beginner should get the best they can (even second hand)
My take is that anyone who’s going to buy the cheap wedge won’t really notice the lack of spin, as they would be high handicappers anyway. The durability would be expected with a wedge you could buy 10 times over anyway.
For some Cleveland is the cheaper option😂
Cobra's black finishes are extremely tough.
Yep they held up well
Maybe do a chalenge of you and carter break 30 with one playing a cheap package set other playing their own clubs then do another break 30 the opposite way about with the clubs to see who is the ultimate champion
Seve used Slazinger.
He did I think they are a bit different from those though, big brand in the game back then
You called the Cleveland a Srixon !!
Cleveland and Srixon are the same company
I love my rtx6
Good wedges!
You also forgot to mention the insane dollars major manufacturers spend on their tour trucks and paying top pros to play their clubs.
I had black ping wedges, after a month or two they looked about 5 year old.
Buy the v300 and replace them every season. Has to be a winner.
In essence yes but would they last that long if you were playing slot
"feel" is an acceptable data point. I am not sure why so many youtubers care about what a club sounds like. Cleveland XL2 drivers perform amazingly well for their price. Yet most of the youtube reviews love to just talk about the sound. I am no where near a "good" golfer, just play to have fun. Sound is the last thing on my list of importance.
You can buy 10 to one I don't know if the brand name clubs are worth the price. I'd buy the name brand a year after they're now for half price,
Wow I thought my pricing was good as a hobby club builder, about $30 US per wedge.
Golf pie grips.
We missed that one 🤦♂️
@@Mattfryergolf ha! I love it
Kirklands are great
There's an awful lot of snobbery in golf re brands. People want the best of equipment in their bag so they won't feel inadequate on the first tee.
Matt don't refer the less expensive wedges as cheap. Cheap might imply costing less but also inferior quality. I also use the phrase 'inexpensive never cheap' when referring to anything less expensive then a more expensive product.
Seriously 500rpm lower, really how many golfers can tell.
The feel would be due to being cast, using a different head material, thats why softer.
To sum up , it does not matter
golfpied
OMG, 2£ more. What will one do? 🤣🤣🤣 👍🏼
Your not noticing 500 revs from them little chip shots on to the greens at the start and 500 revs difference won’t make the balls release the way them cheap wedges where at the start either.
I actually winced when I saw that Slazenger
Not everyones cup of tea!
Not everyones cup of tea
So the overwhelming winner is,the slazenger wedges
Tried the Slazenger V's and the grips were diabolical they wear down to nothing very quickly. Got 40 year old Ping Eyes that do a better job and cost less
I’d never get a black club anyhow…you gotta know it’s going to lose its color eventually….
Ello mat hew
Biggest thing you get when you buy a premium wedges is a proper fitting. If you arent getting that i think the difference is more or less minimum between them
Sometimes but people will.buy just off the rack and miss out on that
@Matt Fryer Golf i bought the cobra wedge of the rack when it was last years modell.
They usally sell them for like 800 kronor (50£)
That I think is more worth then a cheap wedge from sports direct. But for full price of the rack I think your missing out
Sounds like he was intentionally trying to discourage the cheaper wedge... Price per performance I'd expect the big brand to crush the cheaper...10,500 spin vs. 11,000, really,!? Most amateur golfers dont know how to control spin... most of the ti e they spin it accidently.
buy the cheap ones and spend the difference on lessons
so go for the cheaper ones then…
You'd think you'd be promoting the playing of golf, especially to kids, and during this cost-of-living crisis not everyone's premium golf equipment money. I'd have thought you'd be saying at ⅒ price what a bargain, but your bias for the hype of expensive top brands shone through on your review there. Harry Vardon, who low scoring pro's play for a trophy in his name, well he played with hickory shafted clubs.
In my opinion terrible points made here in regard to durability.
You mentioned nothing about the actual grooves wearing, which has to be gradually over a long period of time be examined.
Durability has nothing to do with paint. Durability is a FUNCTIONAL aspect, not COSMETIC.
You buy clubs for their functional aspects to get results on the green, not what they look like.
Not a fair test. Complete waste of time.
The truth is , you get what u pay for ...
That’s what the marketing department at every big brand want you to believe.
U had a poo today matt?
Odd
@@Mattfryergolf stop dodging the question Matthew. These are the pressing matters the people need to know!!!
@@MattfryergolfOdd that he asked? Or you did poo and it was odd?
Well, production cost for a wedge head is about 5-8$, then shaft en grips. But for a complete big brand wedge it's about 15$. The rest of the cost you pay is for their massive amounts of commercials and huge of money to tour players. In research and development it's not much spändes.