Is DOT The MOST Forgotten Playstyle In Honkai: Star Rail?

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  • @Faudiedauw
    @Faudiedauw  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yo Dauwdies, do you guys think dot will get justice again?
    Make sure to join the discord -> discord.com/invite/rvC6EFQBzQ

  • @Gwanzan3325
    @Gwanzan3325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    It is annoying how DOT has languished while follow up attack character keep coming out in quick succession. Jiaoqiu is the first in a while, but they made him without any healing ability despite being a physician in the story.

    • @insertnamehere1398
      @insertnamehere1398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      cuz dot got it's moment now fua is getting it's moment. and dot is gonna come back again. remember kafka and BS are still slaying the charts they don't really NEED as much help

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You had your time, now it's time for FUA to shine

    • @Animefan_7153-0
      @Animefan_7153-0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kafka is actually a mix of dot and fua lol but many people seem to overlook this

    • @curiouscommand5916
      @curiouscommand5916 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@keneunaegbu851 Jade, Aventurine, Yunli, Free Dr Ratio, Robin, I think FUA has had PLENTY ENOUGH time to shine.

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@curiouscommand5916 Nah, they need MORE 😌

  • @Mutton-w3x
    @Mutton-w3x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I hope when nihility MC releases they’ll be really good for DOT like how harmony mc is really good for break

    • @indyvidual3917
      @indyvidual3917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      My long shot theory is that they gave NMC JQ’s original healer kit, and when he drops it will also come with an Acheron rerun

    • @Nyx309
      @Nyx309 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder if Nihility MC is going to be Wind considering they already have fire and physical types, and it will be a bit pointless if they’re lightning so you can’t pair them with Kafka (she needs 3 different DOTS) so Wind makes the most sense

    • @sakutaro3musik486
      @sakutaro3musik486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Nyx309 at that point we might have more then kafka as dot enabler so why focus on what works with kafka?

    • @Mutton-w3x
      @Mutton-w3x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Nyx309 idk we already have two wind DOT units I kinda hope they’ll be either quantum or ice

    • @Why_So_Mean
      @Why_So_Mean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sakutaro3musik486 why would anyone pull for a second dot enabler when they have kafka?

  • @CascadaaXx
    @CascadaaXx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    DOT enjoyers and HP drain enjoyers are truly suffering. Give us kafka/bs and jingliu/blade support!

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      tbf Jade is Blade support, but you need E1 for her to be good outside of PF, and Jiaoqiu is a good DoT support but he needs E2 to surpass a character like Ruan Mei or Robin on those teams. Both archetypes just need a dedicated Harmony character since they already have good dedicated DPS characters and plenty of healer/shielders that work with them.

    • @shugo2355
      @shugo2355 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How would you think HP drsin support would work? Maybe they buff like crazy if a character drains HP on their turn or something?
      I know jingliu and blade both benfit from boosting party HP and damage%. Curious if you have a creative idea.

  • @mariokungfu2216
    @mariokungfu2216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I had an idea for a Nihility Trailblazer / New 5 Star DoT.
    Nihility Trailblazer
    Path: Nihility
    Element: Ice
    Stats: (Level 80)
    Health: 1087
    Attack: 664.24
    Defense: 512
    Speed: 104
    Basic Attack: Frost Blast: Deals Ice DMG equal to 50% of “Trailblazer’s” Attack to a single enemy 2 times
    Skill: Arctic Circle: Deals Ice DMG to all enemies equal to 30% of “Trailblazer’s Attack 3 times. Then, creates an Arctic Circle field for 3 turns that allows DoT to Crit. The Crit Chance is fixed at 50% and the Crit Damage is fixed at 100%.
    Ultimate: Abyssal Whiteout: (Cost:120) Deals Ice DMG to all enemies equal to 40% of Trailblazer’s Attack 5 times. If Arctic Circle is active, increase the fixed Crit rate for DoTs by 25% for 2 turns. All Frostbites DoTs on the enemies hit immediately deals damage equal to 100% of the original damage and if Frostbite is at 9 stacks, 100% base chance to freeze the enemy for 1 turn.
    Talent: Deadly Chills: When an enemy is hit by Nihility Trailblazer’s Basic Attack, Skill, or Ultimate, 65% base chance apply 1 stack of Frostbite for 2 turns. Frostbite deals damage equal to 120% of Nihility Trailblazer’s Attack and additional stacks increases the multiplier by 15%. Frostbite can stack up to 9 times.
    Minor Traces:
    Attack: 28%
    Crit Damage: 24%
    Effect Hit Rate: 10%
    Major Trace 1: When an enemy with frostbite receives a critical hit from a DoT, regenerate 3 energy.
    Major Trace 2: For every different DoT the an enemy takes damage from during their turn, their is a 65% base chance to inflict 1 stack of frostbite.
    Major Trace 3: While Arctic Circle is active, increase the fix Crit damage of DoTs by 45% of Nihility Trailblazers Crit Damage + 15.
    I know this is a custom ice DoT so if this doesn’t happen, it could just be one of the normal DoT elements such as Physical

    • @PahlawanMerdeka
      @PahlawanMerdeka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I bet it the kit will revolve around Crit Kit

    • @Why_So_Mean
      @Why_So_Mean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      so dreams are quite detailed now huh

    • @mariokungfu2216
      @mariokungfu2216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Why_So_Mean Can a man dream. I just want something to help out dot

    • @ThyFloorestFloor
      @ThyFloorestFloor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You're hired, we need your skills for the kitchen

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could Wind or Lightning element instead of Ice, so MC can utilize their own kit.

  • @qaztim11
    @qaztim11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Honestly, we just need a pure DoT support, someone that buffs dots by making them crit, trigger twice or reduce toughness when they deal damage, and then DoT will be back in vogue.
    Kafka is an evergreen unit as long as they dont release a stronger dot activator,(and if they do, just run both of them) Black Swan does great damage and has support capabilities in non DoT teams.
    The team is alright in the current meta, but once we get a true "DoT support" then the team will truly be complete.

    • @aba7968
      @aba7968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It reminds me of how Topaz and Ratio used to be without Robin and Aventurine, once we get dedicated DOT harmony and sustain the team will be much better

  • @dessam3939
    @dessam3939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    One issue that holds DoT down a lot is that the best options for a DoT team are all almost exclusive characters, it stinks that there aren’t any good 4*s that have been coming out with DoT playstyle in mind.
    Literally waited a year to get Huohuo because she’s the best sustainer for DoT so any 4* healer that has a skill or passive where DoT damage heals like that one blessing in SU would be an interesting concept for a DoT sustainer.

    • @zen-bh8sh
      @zen-bh8sh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      'no good 4 star dot' me and my high investment sampo be like 🗿

    • @KelkGaming
      @KelkGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you but don't forget about asta yet

    • @garreonlefay6703
      @garreonlefay6703 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zen-bh8sh Same. I use BS, Sampo as Kafka substitute and Guinaifen

    • @zen-bh8sh
      @zen-bh8sh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do i need to build guin or ruan mei is good enough

  • @johntagao5
    @johntagao5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    9:51 I mean, according to kafka's lightcone, patience is all you need, so I'm optimistic that dot will get a great resurgence in terms of units and popularity

  • @AevyCh
    @AevyCh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    DoTs are missing DPS. You pretty much can only tackle Lightning & Wind. The 4* DoTs are so far behind compared to the rest of the game. Even Luka is better as a Budget Boothill rather than DoT. There's also the fact that Kafka is mandatory for DoT at the current game state.
    They can make enemies with 1000 SPD to make Kafka irrelevant, but it'll also hurt DoT at the same time since the debuffs will go away sooner. Another way is to release more enemies with Shield since DoT can bypass shields completely.
    In terms of character, I want to see a character that can make enemies move faster (Asta but for enemies) but make them deal 50% less damage so you won't die from getting hit. Although a more realistic approach would be a Freeze Spamming unit since enemies will move 50% faster when Frozen.
    I can also see them releasing Quantum/Imaginary unit that deals DoT damage just to increase the archetype's viability instead of just being locked to only 4 elements.

    • @Why_So_Mean
      @Why_So_Mean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i feel like its fine tho since feixiao is coming out who is a wind unit and Acheron now reclaiming her title as best dps with jiaoqiu wind and lightning are probably gonna stay relevant for a good while maybe fire too idk tho

    • @Animefan_7153-0
      @Animefan_7153-0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ilikeanime9612
      ...?
      Did you reply to the wrong comment or something

  • @Breadbreader
    @Breadbreader 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So according to leaks, 3.0 patches have mostly destruction and nihility characters. It is also said that the new gamestyle in 3.0 revolves around health manipulation so, not only theres lots of chances for the third dot character to come in the new world but the blade team might also come by. The thing about dot, is we already have an enabler with kafka and dmg with swan, but now we need a character to puts 2 dots instead of 1, cus the 50 stack from black swan usually reaches 20 in a normal game, but if a character comes by that puts way more dots for the arcana to stack that would fix everything, instead of having 2 dots, with this new character we would have 4, so its way easier to stack the arcana. Also im just hoping they make a new special dot like the arcana, and they make an ice or quantum dot character instead of fire and bleed.

    • @Breadbreader
      @Breadbreader 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing is ever certain with leaks tho, so we can only hope. 🙏

  • @AzureDrag0n1
    @AzureDrag0n1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Another DoT that applies dot, buffs all DoT, can detonate it like Kafka, is SP positive and increases team speed or has action advance. A better Sampo really with additional perks.

    • @KhoiNguyen-zp2bq
      @KhoiNguyen-zp2bq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I need a sp positive dot
      Even huo huo who doesnt even do dot devours sp

    • @MinKiu410
      @MinKiu410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really unless you play on Auto. She isnt really SP hungry if you manual but i think Mihoyo wants people to buy that Huohuo E1 for extra heal turn + spd buff (which result in a SP positive Huohuo and give DoT team the SPD they need)

    • @Animefan_7153-0
      @Animefan_7153-0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Save the Nihility Path, 5 star Sampo..!(He's actually getting one too)

  • @daitoushoutou
    @daitoushoutou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think that the devs are testing out several future possible metas and mechanics in the current 2.4 event, Trailblaze: Friendship is Magic!, such as summon and HP scaling metas. One of the five missions includes two DoT units, Black Swan and Sampo, with Luocha, Asta, and summon trashcans (minicans) which can apply DoTs to enemies. More new destruction, erudition, and nihilty units appear to be on the way. A certain 5* fox girl seems to be (fire?) nihility. So don't despair, DoT lovers.
    By the way, in that 1.4 Pokémon-like summon event Aetherium Wars, I primarily used a DoT team to win everything, including the finale. It was fun to see enemies die on their own turns.

    • @daitoushoutou
      @daitoushoutou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The third mission, Hazardous Waste Trashcan, is the DoT summon one. Summons inflict DoTs whenever they attack enemies.

  • @ectoBiologist21
    @ectoBiologist21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The answer is yes until it isn’t. DoT has gotten fuck all since BS, and no I don’t count needing to pull E2 JQ as something.

  • @HimeofLight
    @HimeofLight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A healer that heals with their dots % could be fun :3

  • @magistertome2930
    @magistertome2930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think Constance (from the Annihilation Gang) will be to DOT what HMC is to break teams. Hoyoverse wouldn't waste that many resources designing those characters just for Acheron to cut them out of existence. She killed Duke Inferno, but I genuinely believe we're going to see his children make their debut sometime in the next year.

  • @mhbarney8499
    @mhbarney8499 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    HSR is quite stale the last couple of patches. Besides the current one the game is only about break and follow up. Everything else is kinda dead. I hope they soon remember there is other stuff besides follow up and break all the time. At least it feels that way.
    I also think the tight banner placements to build some teams are really aggresive. But noone is complaining about it at all.

    • @LucasGomes-ng2go
      @LucasGomes-ng2go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      there's rumors we are gonna start getting only one banner per patch, so the problem of too many characters might get solved, but I agree, Break has been being sold too hard for my taste, they even made a whole SimUni expansion just to sell break. IMO we should go back to early rotations, where the turbulence was always generic, like "regenerate energy" ,"push hunt and destruction chracaters to the top of the action line at the start of the cycle" or "summons a trotter and when you kill it you get a huge attack buff" It was much more fun compared to "break the boss with a billion toughness bar to do big dmg", or "do a billion hits on the boss (wink wink follow up) and the turbulence does a billion dmg in return"

    • @sakutaro3musik486
      @sakutaro3musik486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we don´t need less banners, we need more free pulls because 4 stars in this game are barely viable without eidolons and the game is in need of so many units, we need dot units, more break units, follow up is always in need of new units since they play very different like counter, hunt or aoe follow ups, hypercarry need more units and we probably gonna see totally new team comps arround summons

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sakutaro3musik4864 star preservation characters are also non-existent which is a massive issue

    • @miramaxcinemax5512
      @miramaxcinemax5512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LucasGomes-ng2go so you want same restrictive buffs just for the other paths?😄 that solves the problem

    • @LucasGomes-ng2go
      @LucasGomes-ng2go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @miramaxcinemax5512 how were those more restrictive than the break buffs? There's like 20 different hunt and destruction DPS, meanwhile there's 2 break DPS. Anyway, these were just examples. My point was that the turbulence used to be generic, you could use pretty much any ok DPS and they would benefit from it. Nowadays we only get the "Firefly buff", the "Jade buff", the "Yunli buff", its pretty fucking boring

  • @omagusprime700
    @omagusprime700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am in the same boat as you, I love DOT so much! I really put the effort into it. However, due to the nature of DOT being based element, there can only be 4 DOT units… (that’s not to say Hoyo can’t be creative and give us an Imaginary DOT unit, but you get the point) Both Break & Follow up have many more shoes to fill, it is not as restricting as DOT. Because DOT is niche, and restricted to 4 Elements, it becomes difficult to make multiple DOT units of the same DOT type, just look at Black Swan & Sampo, imagine another limited Wind DOT, they will swallow each other alive, they are contesting for the same spot. They can’t live in harmony, but like March 7th & Dr Ratio. They must be careful how they handle the Remaining DOT units, it makes sense for them to spread them out like this. (We need 2 more (Physical & Fire), a Sustain DOT Unit & a Buffer DOT Unit) I really thought the Sustain DOT was going to be Jiaoqiu.. but this is all my Opinion. 🙂

  • @NullZ3r0
    @NullZ3r0 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think that they are saving the 3rd DoT best in slot for Nihility Trailblazer, so that he can be played with her mom on the same team, it is a stupid guess, but if i am right, it would be so funny, like with harmony trailblazer making superbreak a thing, nihility tb could make a thing with DoT, like DoT being able to crit, or making DoT damage increase a lot, it would be funny

    • @NullZ3r0
      @NullZ3r0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Besides, if DoT somehow got a full team, like super break, having a DoT focused 5 star sustainer/buffer and the 3rd DoT character, DoT would be not only insanely strong, but also really fun to play with

    • @Zoeila
      @Zoeila หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its gonna be a long wait then because next TB path is Ice Destruction/Remembrance

  • @straga2416
    @straga2416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    there is already a few good ideas in SU which can boost DOT comp, any of them can be put to make new DOT unit shine

  • @S-Ace
    @S-Ace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nihility MC should install a debuff that heals the party based off total dot damage

  • @LucasGomes-ng2go
    @LucasGomes-ng2go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    DoT found dead in a ditch. No joke, I only see DoT being viable in current endgame modes when it gets a turbulence blessing or when you vertically invest in Kafka and BS. Specially now since Hoolay is gonna move at the speed of light, DoT is gonna even start to struggle with uptime issues on the actual debbufs

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      E2 Jiaoqiu makes DoT good but that's crazy investment for something that performs like Firefly or Acheron F2P teams.

    • @LucasGomes-ng2go
      @LucasGomes-ng2go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @hallyuniverse that's what I'm saying, DoT nowadays is only viable with multiple eidolons and lightcones, to the point where you are better off pulling an e0s0 Yunli, or an e0s0 Firefly and getting the same results

  • @QuebecoisModerne
    @QuebecoisModerne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dots are stills great. Especially in pure fiction. But we haven’t got any new dot units Since black swan. I hope they’ll make a new one. Like a physical dot units like Lucas but that isn’t single target and that has stronger dots could be an insane dot units. Bleed is pretty good

  • @Joey-nc5cf
    @Joey-nc5cf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    But at the same time, hoyo seems almost scared to release another dot lightning character (no Acheron doesn’t count) because people will compare them to Kafka and see them as not valuable so they kinda designed themselves into a potential trap

    • @kyrogamingvt9716
      @kyrogamingvt9716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean tbf theres a lot they could do with DOT other than lightning nihility. I wouldn't mind a 4* in that combo thike they have in the other DOT elements, but for 5* i thibk there are a ton of other options they can go for. Alternatively they could do something where they synergize with Kafka in some way, like crit DOT or enemy speedup but needs kafka to detonate

  • @Ravidrath
    @Ravidrath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the rumored DOT character reruns coming in 2.5 signal it'll be getting another character soon.
    It was very strong for a long time, and is still highly rated in both MoC and PF tier lists.
    I think it'll be strong again once it gets a proper DOT-focused support, which I'm hopeful will be coming in 2.7 or 2.8.

    • @PahlawanMerdeka
      @PahlawanMerdeka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      New Tingyun is Fire DoT nihility

    • @Ravidrath
      @Ravidrath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PahlawanMerdeka Really hoping she's a DOT support, maybe with DOT Crit like in DU, and can replace Ruan Mei / Robin.
      The "resurrection" hint has me a little concerned she might be a DOT sustain, and that's why they took Jiaoqiu's healing off of him. But she's classified as Nihility because she can't solo-sustain on her own and needs a DOT team to make it work. Meaning we're still going to need Ruan Mei, Robin or Jiaoqiu to buff.

    • @Fabio82586
      @Fabio82586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@PahlawanMerdeka she's not a dot character. We just got JQ. From the few leaks and ult, she'll be more like acheron for Fire element.

    • @NS-ku1kf
      @NS-ku1kf หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Fabio82586 JQ is not dot without E2. He is a debuffer support like SW

  • @Tramveller
    @Tramveller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't think DoT is dying. It is still one of the most consistent Teams, if build correctly. However, the problem with the current best DoT-Team is that it consists of exclusive characters only (Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei or Robin, Huohuo or Aventurine), so it is far from accessible to the regular f2p player. Without spending money, chances of getting the required units are pretty slim. Also, Dot tends to be a bit slower than other teams playstyle wise since some of the damage require multiple stacks of the same dot debuff (in Contrast to Firefly Break, Acheron debuff and FuA Teams which are mostly much faster).

  • @mrJones-ii7sh
    @mrJones-ii7sh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From what i understand the hoolay boss is gunna be really fast soo dot teams and counter teams will be good there

  • @pancakes6393
    @pancakes6393 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    we need an aoe bleed dot or even ice, imaginary or different element dot

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's out of meta just like hypercarry
    Break and FUA are the new thing.
    Summons are gonna be the next meta it seems like

    • @GreenhouseGoblin
      @GreenhouseGoblin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m confused at how so much people are coming to this conclusion. Is there some leaked summon character? The only upcoming one is lingsha right?

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GreenhouseGoblin next MC path is rumored l be summon based.
      Even if its not you can expect it's gonna be a new meta of something new.
      That's why you shouldn't pull for an old meta style like hypercarry or DoT today

    • @aba7968
      @aba7968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah DOT is just incomplete like FUA used to be before Aventurine and Robin, and it's still performing better than hypercarry comps. As soon as they're willing to release more DOT units it will jump in the meta again

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @aba7968 they might not even release more DoT or hypercarry units. They could just go with new playstyles. As the meta shifts suggests

    • @aba7968
      @aba7968 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dante19890 Meta shifting doesn't mean they stop supporting established archetypes lol, do you think they will stop releasing FUA and Break when they stop being meta ? As long as they have ideas for these archetypes then they can easily add more units, heck they're even willing to copy paste kits (like Clara and Yunli)

  • @te02000
    @te02000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be hella interesting if the summon meta was connected to DOT. So you would have more instances of applying/triggering DOTs by the summons

  • @chaosstorm0967
    @chaosstorm0967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A DoT sustain would be really cool, esp since there's Nihility Blessings that do stuff like that in SimUni and DivUni.

  • @caio7208
    @caio7208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a LOT of potential interactions with DOT missing that i can see comming in a character kit in the future, like, imagine a DoT sustain character that makes so DoT works like a lifesteal where the team regens HP equal to the amount of DoT the enemy takes every turn, or a hybrid followup unit that trigger a followup everytime a DoT is triggered

  • @HsrMy
    @HsrMy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem with nihility,
    1. Skill point issue.
    2. dot cant crit
    3. Cycle hungry.
    4. Need kafka.

  • @BrettTracy713
    @BrettTracy713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t think DOT is dead. Hell I still use it a lot. I love DOT. The flavor of the moment is break obviously but that could change anytime.

  • @coltonmarples4269
    @coltonmarples4269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm enjoying my Kafka, BS, Acheron team but I would like if they just added a pure dot DPS so Kafka has something worth procing.

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah unfortunately the best option is E2 Jiaoqiu with Swan LC for an actual DoT DPS, but that requires crazy investment and you also probably also want Jiaoqiu's LC on Swan (with BS being E1) and Kafka E0S1 at minimum. Just requires a lot of investment to make DoT perform like Acheron or Firefly F2P teams. We really need a Physical 5* DoT character.

  • @silentfate
    @silentfate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dot is not forgotten. Honestly its kafkas fault. Dot got its buffs, lackluster without kafka because she op. Then they stepped away but kafka is so universal she gets indirect buffs.

  • @thetruestar6348
    @thetruestar6348 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nihility MC would go crazy to enable DOT since the MC and Kafka have such a strong bond

  • @vaggeliss05
    @vaggeliss05 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice vid bro , I am sure Dot will get T0 again for sure, we just have to wait a bit for other playstyles to stay at the top so there is diversity

  • @BrettTracy713
    @BrettTracy713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t blame you. I’ve been stacking tickets this entire version. I plan on going after the next character on the next update. I forget her name right now lol

  • @MACA_Zeon
    @MACA_Zeon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A charatcer that procs DOT on ally turns! Like a charge that procs it at start of ally turn This makes it less reliant on enemy turn and brings some of the backloaded damage to the front while still staying traditional damaging over time

  • @IamTheNayo
    @IamTheNayo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    " jao doesnt synergize with dot" 2 seconds later " jao does synergize with dot" literally right after " huohuo is made for dot" then another couple seconds later " huohuo is not made for dot" make up your mind brother

  • @ValentineRey
    @ValentineRey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YES

  • @Mr_ViPR
    @Mr_ViPR หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just hope when we get the new inevitable DOT char they don’t just make them Kafka 2.0 when we still need a dedicated DOT support and sustain.

  • @torunsmok5890
    @torunsmok5890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since JQ does work in DoT I think the hypothetical new DoT unit you talked about at the end would be best as a physical Bleed based unit, sure we have Luka but he's only single target. Let's get an AOE bleed unit!

    • @thatokperson
      @thatokperson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've seen boothill dot teams so I'm not too sure, I think they would be more likely to explore ice quantum or imaginary afterall 5 stars usually have something to differentiate themselves like making non-dot elements do dot

  • @NiCeNuKNaN
    @NiCeNuKNaN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nope. the DoT will never die and still revelance in many contents. People still underestimate the DoT team, they're very strong and dependable to clear all contents

    • @bluedewy01
      @bluedewy01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The dot died in the recent Apoc shadow, unless you use BS, Kafka, and Acheron but pure dot isnt use anymore

    • @amon4646
      @amon4646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bluedewy01 try to tell me you dont play dot teams without saying it XDD

  • @RetryAgainAgain
    @RetryAgainAgain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also don’t want DoTs to crit. I’ve decided to make DoT my primary team and Break my secondary team, partially because I don’t want to worry about crit ratio. I’ll gladly hunt for atk%, Break effect, and speed. Fuck the 2:1 ratio.

  • @Zoeila
    @Zoeila หลายเดือนก่อน

    theres been a leak saying Kafka would get a path change so thats how they will power creep her

  • @cvkpaper
    @cvkpaper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive played alot of MMOs and other games with well designed dot focused characters and what always breaks dots in RPGs is 2 things Haste on dots as in they proc way more or allowing dots to crit these are the 2 things that would be break DOT characters in this game

  • @wesleyc5713
    @wesleyc5713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only have Kafka and Huohuo and want to get into DoT but there aren't many options and I don't want Black Swan, so my hope is that we get more love for DoT soon

    • @failingartist3524
      @failingartist3524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sampo guenifen are solid dot units what u mean I'd say Kafka to most needed one

    • @cronoluminara6911
      @cronoluminara6911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luka works best with her her can proc the bleeds too so nasty dmg

    • @Lusc1nt
      @Lusc1nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@failingartist3524don't like Kafka, her Ult is annoying, won't get her, well im fckd 😂

    • @Joey-nc5cf
      @Joey-nc5cf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless you have sampo e4+ I’d recommend gui for dot and almost any harmony works as the other slot. Probably ruan Mei, robin and asta would be best

    • @no-do4pv
      @no-do4pv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could try hypercarry Kafka with Tingyun and Asta if you have Kafka's signature, otherwise you can just stick with Sampo or Gui.

  • @hungerdanceofkaa
    @hungerdanceofkaa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some aspect of DOT will always be held back by the fact that three elements have no synergy with it. A DOT booster would be cool, maybe a flat DMG boost to all dots based on the character’s specific scaling or a domain that prevents DOTs from expiring when they trigger. I’m still holding out for Constance (and hoping she’s a Fire DOT support)

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We need a 5* Physical DoT support/sub-DPS type character. Physical is the strongest DoT but all we have is Luka. A DoT Harmony unit that enables DoT to Crit would be kinda crazy too.

  • @marsinaresvt
    @marsinaresvt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video! yeah I agree that people are being tested with regards to discipline and patience. And I'm failing the test haha I'll try to save more

  • @monbebehere1607
    @monbebehere1607 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys help. Do I get bs for my Kafka? I just have this gut feeling we r gonna get a better dot unit for Kafka to partner with than black swan with a more unique mechanic and that’s y I am unsure about pulling black swan re run.

  • @shihoooooooooo
    @shihoooooooooo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U can use acheron with dot team it kinda works but could be hard on memory of chaos stage 12

  • @hanrimail5431
    @hanrimail5431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm confused, from the first time acheron release,
    i always cleared pure fiction and MoC easily,
    with always using DoT team (acheron, black swan, kafka, huohuo)
    for part 1 or part 2 (depend on the enemy list)
    absolutely irreplaceable, i never use other team for DoT team,
    so i'm confused what do you mean DoT are forgotten

  • @neilwaterson2487
    @neilwaterson2487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hsr meta like cycle (character good depend enemy)
    Recycle meta is a good move

  • @someoneidkwho860
    @someoneidkwho860 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if they will do crit than they will do it like jane doe’s anomaly can crit but crit stats scale from her anomaly proficiency in zzz

  • @aliadel1475
    @aliadel1475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dot need it's own Ruan Mei or Robin Support for Dot.
    IF you say what would the support do.
    1 Places it own Dot on the enemy.
    2 Attack/Damage increase to the Team.
    4 Give energy to the Whole Team.

  • @RedWolfWindgear
    @RedWolfWindgear 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's still good. I been playinig on a second account and focused a bit on the Dot characters. They been doing amazing work. I was able to get to max world with ease using them.
    On a side note. Break Kafka is amazing. I use the Break artifacts with her, and she been a total baddie in combat. She has yet to lose her title as my Star Rail Queen. No one besides Acheron melts like her.
    Dot needs a solid healer. Someone who does the dot damage but gives our characters healing over time as well. May be make it an Ice type? The game needs some more Ice love.

    • @iamkat92
      @iamkat92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Ice isn't considered as Dot. As for the healer. Huohuo is already there to fill the gap. Heals and buffs at the same time.

    • @RedWolfWindgear
      @RedWolfWindgear 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iamkat92 Pela is a Dot Ice character. Also can't say no to HuoHuo. I use her and she does some fine healing for my teams.

    • @iamkat92
      @iamkat92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RedWolfWindgear pela isn't a Dot. She's a defense shredder. Dot is a damage when they take their turns.

    • @igorbezmozgy3326
      @igorbezmozgy3326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iamkat92 i think what they meant is that technically pela does synergise w dot because def shred is one of the main damage-boodsting mechanics for dots

  • @khalidalanti5388
    @khalidalanti5388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a dot unit that lets the dot activate two times in a row?

  • @silentfate
    @silentfate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just throwing this out there. Imagine if instead of having kafka work with dot, it was fua. Every time an enemy is hit with an fua they get 1 stackable debuff, after it reaches 5 stacks kafka hits them with st dmg +more per ally with a fua, and resets the count. She has an aoe skill that adds a stack on each enemy. Like damn chill girl.

  • @Animefan_7153-0
    @Animefan_7153-0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like Constance will be the one who saves life drain or Dot, 80% Dot 20% Life drain, as she's currently working together with Black swan in the story(and life drain is an option due to her lore as apart of the annihilation gang)

  • @BrettTracy713
    @BrettTracy713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe a new character that has the ability to increase the amount of dots. The rest of your team are able to apply at one time.

  • @fiddlybiddly
    @fiddlybiddly หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The way I view dot is just you never need to run it, at most you might need it for a pf but even then you always have an alternative option

  • @ImNot5YearsOld
    @ImNot5YearsOld 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just make a 5 star with some form of evolving DOT damage. Maybe like dots crit like the Sim Universe blessing

  • @brizzleyoh
    @brizzleyoh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And isn’t Rappa supposed to be a weakness break character as well? 😂😂 I want to pull Kafka but idk if I should. I have black swan so I feel like she’s being wasted without Kafka.

  • @MinKiu410
    @MinKiu410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love DoT team but i must admit its not doing well in the current time compared to other archetype like FuA / Break. The best Harmony for DoT was Mei but Mei with Break team outperforms DoT so much. Even BS as main DoT DPS right now without having high Eidolon will have hard time to reach her highest possible Dmg [50 stacks]. DoT needs a dedicated DoT Harmony that address their problem

    • @MinKiu410
      @MinKiu410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DoT team also is the most expensive team right now imo. It needs Eidolons on almost all members to deals great DMG but its DMG isnt on par with the investment compared to the cheapest team of Break (FF) and premium FuA team. I'd say its about time Mihoyo gives something nice to DoT

  • @sakurikunikai7564
    @sakurikunikai7564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they made entire boss for Dot and beating it without em is nightmare

  • @KUROFEYMURPHY
    @KUROFEYMURPHY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jiaoqui broke me too I couldn't resist

  • @naw613
    @naw613 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can remove this if you want, but I thought you might like to know there are absolutely 0 abundance units projected to release in 3.x :/ lingsha is the last one we will receive for a while. There might be one preservation though

  • @robthames5065
    @robthames5065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My team of Black Swan, Guinaifen, Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan still slaps MOC 12 upside the head. So no, DOT is not dead

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like Kafka and Black Swan so I physically cannot play DoT. There is still the Suspicion mechanic that hasn't been tapped into in a character kit, so I hope we get a couple of new characters that work with that.

  • @BrettTracy713
    @BrettTracy713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ruan Mei is still the most busted support in the game

  • @budycabra6668
    @budycabra6668 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jiaoqiu ult should have also increased dot damage, could have benn perfect

    • @igorbezmozgy3326
      @igorbezmozgy3326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      welp technically kafka's dot is in her ult so...

  • @bradrizzo3950
    @bradrizzo3950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you make another dot that is better then Kafka but wouldnt replace her (since there are so few 5 star dots)....she had to be so complete as there wernt many at release. Idk

    • @igorbezmozgy3326
      @igorbezmozgy3326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      easily enough. A second kafka is just going to be run along with the first one, because giving the dot team ANOTHER char that can proc the dots is going to skyrocket the damage
      in this regard dot and break are very alike: the OG break didn't work because it was inconsistent, so they added superbreak & boothill break self-proc and now it does wonders bc you can proc break however many times you like
      but for dots we dont have anything besides kafka herself

  • @czerruiz7192
    @czerruiz7192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DOT hasn't complete it's "premium" lineup yet, unlike other team compositions. Yes, DOT is missing it's own Harmony that is specifically for it. As of now, it only has three "premiums" which are Kafka, Swan, and Huo. It needs the missing puzzle to complete itself. As many players can see, there is no dedicated Harmony for DOT. Even though Robin and Mei can fit into the final slot, those two aren't the final piece. They're just the best options available at the moment.

    • @prophetedubaroque5136
      @prophetedubaroque5136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and even huohuo is not quite tailor made for DOT.

  • @cronoluminara6911
    @cronoluminara6911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a support that spreads the debuffs maybe like 1/2% dmg but yeah I love dots

  • @AroNekoArts
    @AroNekoArts หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't worry as germans pretending best Dot main i never will let it die! I can clear all the content with dot and i will! 211k swan dot and a total of 340k dot! This game wanna tell me to use break...FUA and i say No! I got ya DoTting ass!

  • @adamcobb7892
    @adamcobb7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm okay with it lol Dot is my worst team. No Hou Hou, no Kafka idk why I grabbed Black Swan lol. I really liked her look but it was a waste ngl. I'm skipping dude bc I did 1 10 pull and got himeko (didn't have) so I'm grabbing e2 Archeron (she's e1 s1 now) to guarantee Fox girl and her cone.

    • @yogeshkodia347
      @yogeshkodia347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Next patch kafka rerun so you can pull her

  • @Ghalion666
    @Ghalion666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skillpoing hungry dps hypercarries say hi. Sparkle is being done dirty.

  • @acaciasiobhan9205
    @acaciasiobhan9205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kafka is too strong of a unit for physical DoT; the game is too new to have the 5* physical DoT unit as the enemies literally don’t have enough max HP to handle Kafka + RM + JQ + actually strong bleed

  • @sakutaro3musik486
    @sakutaro3musik486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dot is as screwed as husbando lovers in hsr

  • @exodus2oo
    @exodus2oo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't feel DOT is worth it outside of SU and DU where DOTs gets outstanding buffs and effects.

  • @lucydh3758
    @lucydh3758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Think Sunday have good Chance

  • @moodiiperson7474
    @moodiiperson7474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nahh, DOT is one of my favorite teams.

  • @enterthenameyo
    @enterthenameyo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does he keep repeating himself we get it Kafka isn't complete yet

  • @omgjlmiub
    @omgjlmiub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbf FUA really only has Dr Ratio. Blade, Clara and Jing Yuan are….. options. I’m kinda afraid they’ll stop making FUA right when it’s getting good

    • @ectoBiologist21
      @ectoBiologist21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      FUA has been shilled relentlessly all 2.X tf are you yapping about?

    • @N-thinghappeninghere
      @N-thinghappeninghere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What about Robin/Yunli/Topaz/March hunt
      Spoiler
      Feixiao/Moze/Lingsha?

    • @omgjlmiub
      @omgjlmiub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N-thinghappeninghere true I forgot about Yunli

  • @iamwayne6138
    @iamwayne6138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My nihility support for dot. ()
    Talent: When enemy get inflicted with dot or refresh dot, they get 3 stacks of X.
    Each stack of X increase multiplier of dot on the enemy by 1%, max 100%. When X is bigger than 25, for every 5 crit rate () has, enemy receive bleed dot equal 0.5% of their hp at the start of their turn.
    Skill: Increase all enemy crit damage receive by 45% for 3 turn.
    Ult: All enemy receive XX, when enemy have XX, dot on them can crit, and the dot on them get detonate by 30% at the end of their turn.
    Create field, increase crit rate of all char by 30% crit rate of (), if ally is nihility, increase their crit rate by another 25%.
    When field is active, both side increase speed by 20% and ehr by 10%.

  • @eliasainsworth7760
    @eliasainsworth7760 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love dot but damn is this copium hard

  • @wano_propoganda8467
    @wano_propoganda8467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think 1 hp arlan is

  • @murilorosario9028
    @murilorosario9028 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you're cute ^^

  • @rereo599
    @rereo599 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DoT team is my spoiled child 😂 and due to no upgrades available for dot,for now i focus on FuA because they are the next team i want to run 😊, so far i miss robin , topaz signature and feixiao with her s1 but at least fei is garantee , so i am half way i suppose. This 2 teams are the most interesting to me tbh and since my fua isn't completed yet i run argenti hyper time to time, for who i wait the energy support too, so currently there's too many things to pull for, wish me luck cuz i will need it lol 🥲

  • @janestarkage1
    @janestarkage1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe dot have the same problem that preservation has: can become op very quickly. I go nihility on SU and destroy everything in seconds and I dont even have Kafka.

  • @janestarkage1
    @janestarkage1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A nihility healer that zaps hp from the enemy to heal you.