I forgot to mention it in this video, but Yes! You can keep reusing them! Instead of having a multicart or something you can load up Little Samson just to play it on physical hardware, beat it, erase it, program Samurai Pizza Cats, beat it, load up Bucky O'Hare...
Hey! I bought one to dump my NES cartridges and legally use them on my NES Classic Mini. It's pretty easy to do once you understand the iNES 2.0 ROM header.
I got started developing Genesis / Mega Drive homebrew recently, and after watching your video on making Genesis Repro Carts, I've been watching a lot more of your videos. So much good stuff!
Thank you so very much Sir, and thanks to Infinite Nes Lives for making this, I really want a copy of Might & Magic II: Gates To Another Sorld on the snes without needing a PAL converter cart.
Hi John Been following you for a while. Hope all is well. I love the content, and the never ending flood of content. Make sure to take some time off here and there ;) Keep up the good work! Sincerely Stoiss (Morten) From Denmark :)
I have the INL dumper/programmer. I use it to dump my own NES carts. It does the job, but isn’t as easy as dumping SNES or Genesis games using a Retrode. Hopefully the Retrode gets an adapter some day. I think I remember hearing that INL is working on new firmware/software to make dumping more intuitive.
SNES games are more complicated. The cheapest way to buy from INL, like you said, is in bulk. More than likely with SNES, you won't be making a ton of the same if you're doing repros for yourself. The boards require the size of the Rom to fill the board, so many games you will have to manually edit via a hex editor to make the correct size. Some roms are required to be headerless as well which is another can of worms. It's not quite just plug and play with the SNES side of the Kazzo. Edit: I also wish you would have explained Matching the board type of the game you wish to create with the purchasing of the correct Board. Not a lot of people understand where the size of the PRG and CHR, or the types of boards such as "TL-ROM" ,"SU-ROM" , "UxRom", or others come from. If you need some help with dumping games, hit me up on NA.
I bought an original copy of Bahamut Lagoon for Super Famicom, and I want to take out that board and put in one of these INL boards and write an English patched version of the game to it. Any idea where I can go to get the information I need to do this correctly? I'm confused over what PRG is, what CHR is, how to find out what size MB I need to write, other things to consider like SNES special chip games and so on. Also, does the INL writer and board support PAL roms to play in PAL systems?
David White SNES Roms are not region locked, so you can put roms from any region on one of these (adequately sized) boards and it will work. Also, PRG and CHR are things you do not have to worry about while using this for SNES games. There is a great README that should answer all of your questions and give a great walkthrough on how to use the Kazoo Programmer Readme file: www.dropbox.com/s/jg5j8s949o7lqox/readme.txt?dl=0
Thanks man that's really helpful! The only thing I'm slightly confused about now is the fact that there are 2 different slots - for Super Famicom, and SNES - all cart pins are the same size no matter what region so I don't know why 2 slots are needed on this device
I use these for the FxROM and sunsoft boards. Aside from that, these are too expensive for me (though I totally love how fast you can make a game with them). Hopefully the prices go down in the future.
You can also get flashable Genesis boards from Krikzz, the guy that makes the Everdrives. He sells a flashing device and the boards. The boards are only $10 but they don't have an option for batteries like these from INL. Also, flashing those boards are really easy compared to the INL boards. Someone also makes an N64 flashable board too, I forget their name though. Found it: retrostage.net/
The only thing hard about this is trying to figure out which board and size needed to make the nes repos, because nes games use different boards and men sizes. If there was and easy way to figure out which games need which board it would make it easier. That's why I only made one repro nes game and just do snes repros. Snes repros I just need to load the game into programmer software and it tells me how big it is and whether I need to set it to low or high mem setting the boom done.
Thanks Riggs. Unfortunately like most products in the Retro community this looks like it's going to be sold out forever. Just like rgb and HDMI kits (like ultraHDMI for instance), for some reason the sellers don't seem to want to do it as a business even though they present themselves as a business. I get it when you're doing it as a hobby project, but to do a pro site and setup as a business and fail at logistics is a real bummer.
I bought an original copy of Bahamut Lagoon for Super Famicom, and I want to take out that board and put in one of these INL boards and write an English patched version of the game to it. Any idea where I can go to get the information I need to do this correctly? I'm confused over what PRG is, what CHR is, how to find out what size MB I need to write, other things to consider like SNES special chip games and so on. Also, does the INL writer and board support PAL roms to play in PAL systems?
I've looked into this, apparently you can't use them to make games that have special chips, sadly. So making Mega Man X3 or Super Mario: Legend of the Seven Stars. But I really want a version of Final Fantasy with a better translation and the bugs fixed and no one else is making that cart, so maybe I'll get one any way lol
I actually have a Mac so I don’t think it’ll work but it’s ok I’m not very techie so I probably won’t attempt this but it’s still very interesting to watch
Two things since they have a got to tell me was not an endorsement second thing is I picked up some cool things other day I will be making a video soon
How much do they cost? I went to the site but sold out. To be fair does it cost more than a snes 2 sd as that's a good way to go. Another one a raspberry pi. I was thinking about this but to be fair is it worth the cost. No cart ripping. Buy a raspberry pi and a snes case done.
Mister Riggs! I want to make a cartridge for Metroid Rogue Dawn. Rogue Dawn has a battery / save function, but the original did not. Other than the board, is there anything else I need to keep in mind when making this? Is the mapper different?
To me, part of the appeal of making a repro is keeping something from going in a landfill. You're probably not going to find homes for all those crappy games, especially if they're not working or have bad labels, so why not make something new with them? Plus, you get to use a real NES cartridge shell to make your games, giving them a little extra authentic feel. You can still do that with a new board, sure, but then you're left with a naked game board that nobody wants, which kind of defeats the purpose of using a new board.
I've been looking through their website, unfortunatly is not avaiable at the moment. Do they ship to Europe? Btw, do you think this is a good place to start, for people like me, that never made a repro? Cheers John and Thank for sharing ,)
I think these are more for making a few hacks or homebrews for yourself or friends. That's what I use them for. These are not for making tons of games for profit.
Yeah, if you're making all of your friends a bunch of games each, it will add up. The board is $15-20, cart shell is about $5, and even labels can be up to $5. That's $25-30 per game (not counting shipping). A lot of times its a lot cheaper to buy the hack or homebrew from AliExpress and buy a new label. If they sell the game you want on AliExpress.
Yes its new clean way to má ke repro. But it is no fun, making this reproduction. I love your early videos because it was fun to see you trying and figuring out how its work. Muramasa and other repro boards is still good way for me, to make repros.
Hey John, I’m working on a Rom hack for my son, if I was to supply a cartridge and the Rom hack could you make one up for me. I’ll even design the label
PLEASE take StarFox 2 from the SNES Classic and put it on a StarFox SNES cartridge! The Super FX Chip is needed soooooo much to make StarFox SNES truly great. the software emulator they use in the SNES classic is great but the games needing the Super FX chip have serious problems especially speed and response ;-...(
How much does it cost for a few of them since the original games might be a large profit... also this might be better, and does it work with saving after you needed to take a break?
Destroy all the sports games you want most sports games are hard resellers but there is some old that u don't wanta destroy example blades of steal yea not the best but always a classic and mutant league series tho that series could of gone so much farer
I forgot to mention it in this video, but Yes! You can keep reusing them! Instead of having a multicart or something you can load up Little Samson just to play it on physical hardware, beat it, erase it, program Samurai Pizza Cats, beat it, load up Bucky O'Hare...
THIS is what makes the price for those EEPROM boards much more manageable- good stuff.
You should hack a Super Nintendo game
There's a limit on how many times you can do this before it doesn't flash anymore, I only make it once and play it over and over.
Hey! I bought one to dump my NES cartridges and legally use them on my NES Classic Mini. It's pretty easy to do once you understand the iNES 2.0 ROM header.
This man makes me smile!
I got started developing Genesis / Mega Drive homebrew recently, and after watching your video on making Genesis Repro Carts, I've been watching a lot more of your videos. So much good stuff!
Might have to get into this now. The wiring and soldering end of it made me hesitate to do this. Mainly the fear of messing it up. Seems pretty easy.
Nice Video Riggs....always look to you to bring up something awesome and new. have a good one man
Thank you so very much Sir, and thanks to Infinite Nes Lives for making this, I really want a copy of Might & Magic II: Gates To Another Sorld on the snes without needing a PAL converter cart.
Hi John
Been following you for a while.
Hope all is well.
I love the content, and the never ending flood of content.
Make sure to take some time off here and there ;)
Keep up the good work!
Sincerely
Stoiss (Morten) From Denmark :)
This will be the route I go for repros and backups for me.
I have the INL dumper/programmer. I use it to dump my own NES carts. It does the job, but isn’t as easy as dumping SNES or Genesis games using a Retrode.
Hopefully the Retrode gets an adapter some day. I think I remember hearing that INL is working on new firmware/software to make dumping more intuitive.
Good to hear that you are no longer cannibalizing old NES carts. They are a finite resource and the prices are outrageous these days.
SNES games are more complicated. The cheapest way to buy from INL, like you said, is in bulk. More than likely with SNES, you won't be making a ton of the same if you're doing repros for yourself.
The boards require the size of the Rom to fill the board, so many games you will have to manually edit via a hex editor to make the correct size. Some roms are required to be headerless as well which is another can of worms. It's not quite just plug and play with the SNES side of the Kazzo.
Edit: I also wish you would have explained Matching the board type of the game you wish to create with the purchasing of the correct Board.
Not a lot of people understand where the size of the PRG and CHR, or the types of boards such as "TL-ROM" ,"SU-ROM" , "UxRom", or others come from.
If you need some help with dumping games, hit me up on NA.
I bought an original copy of Bahamut Lagoon for Super Famicom, and I want to take out that board and put in one of these INL boards and write an English patched version of the game to it.
Any idea where I can go to get the information I need to do this correctly? I'm confused over what PRG is, what CHR is, how to find out what size MB I need to write, other things to consider like SNES special chip games and so on.
Also, does the INL writer and board support PAL roms to play in PAL systems?
David White SNES Roms are not region locked, so you can put roms from any region on one of these (adequately sized) boards and it will work.
Also, PRG and CHR are things you do not have to worry about while using this for SNES games. There is a great README that should answer all of your questions and give a great walkthrough on how to use the Kazoo Programmer
Readme file: www.dropbox.com/s/jg5j8s949o7lqox/readme.txt?dl=0
Thanks man that's really helpful! The only thing I'm slightly confused about now is the fact that there are 2 different slots - for Super Famicom, and SNES - all cart pins are the same size no matter what region so I don't know why 2 slots are needed on this device
I’ve see black circuit boards before but I didn’t think I’ve ever seen yellowy gold ones before
I use these for the FxROM and sunsoft boards. Aside from that, these are too expensive for me (though I totally love how fast you can make a game with them). Hopefully the prices go down in the future.
I hear ya! Love those Sunsoft and FxROM boards for Fire Emblem.
Shauntendo64 Agreed, hopefully the price goes down cause this seems like something I can do myself xD
I would like to see a video on how to make a 4 MB SNES game. Thank you!
You can also get flashable Genesis boards from Krikzz, the guy that makes the Everdrives. He sells a flashing device and the boards. The boards are only $10 but they don't have an option for batteries like these from INL. Also, flashing those boards are really easy compared to the INL boards. Someone also makes an N64 flashable board too, I forget their name though. Found it: retrostage.net/
finally something a bit more my speed!
Its all changed now, and the new dumper is not backward compatible with the software. Would be amazing to see your opinion of the new one. :)
Damn. You have such enthusiasm about this.
Now I just need to find something like this for the GB/GBA
The only thing hard about this is trying to figure out which board and size needed to make the nes repos, because nes games use different boards and men sizes. If there was and easy way to figure out which games need which board it would make it easier. That's why I only made one repro nes game and just do snes repros. Snes repros I just need to load the game into programmer software and it tells me how big it is and whether I need to set it to low or high mem setting the boom done.
Holy Diver BATMAN? 7:01 now that is a game I have to play.
It's meant as a test of the INL Boards to make sure it's working
@@DocAlexLego I'm aware it's not a real game, I'm just saying Damn that sounds awesome, but thank you I didn't know that.
Can you actually use standart roms to do so?
The webside recomends a different programm. have you tryed it?
This is pretty damn cool.
Thanks Riggs. Unfortunately like most products in the Retro community this looks like it's going to be sold out forever. Just like rgb and HDMI kits (like ultraHDMI for instance), for some reason the sellers don't seem to want to do it as a business even though they present themselves as a business. I get it when you're doing it as a hobby project, but to do a pro site and setup as a business and fail at logistics is a real bummer.
Bringing any of your home brews to the MO Game Con this August?
I'll bring a few.
Is there something just like this available for Genesis?
Is it possible to reuse/overwrite the boards if you want to change the game?
You should talk about GBA REPROS! It's an untapped market!
I second this!
Are you trying to make a Mother 3 cart?
Etsy has a massive market for cheap GBA Repros. Got my mother 3 for 25 bucks, and it works amazingly.
@@walter-ly4dy i 3rd that
They not doing them anymore or not selling them! Any alternatives with the same no soldering, or wiring or whatever?
Very nice. Can't wait to see how many repro boards I'll find on eBay of wild guns now.
haha, they're already out there.
I bought an original copy of Bahamut Lagoon for Super Famicom, and I want to take out that board and put in one of these INL boards and write an English patched version of the game to it.
Any idea where I can go to get the information I need to do this correctly? I'm confused over what PRG is, what CHR is, how to find out what size MB I need to write, other things to consider like SNES special chip games and so on.
Also, does the INL writer and board support PAL roms to play in PAL systems?
wow. super clear. THANK YOU
This is sweet gonna look into getting one in the future.
INL boards are great. No more need to destroy Batman RotJ. Makes all the Mr. Gimmick and Hebereke your heart desires.
Before I knew what was happening, I was reading this as "Batman Return of the Jedi"
Very cool John. Can you use the 60-to-72 pin adapter instead of ordering the version with the Famicom slot?
maybe? I've never used the famicom slot for anything, yet. :)
I have a problem with the kazzo, I can't erase the carts, any help with this problem?
I've looked into this, apparently you can't use them to make games that have special chips, sadly. So making Mega Man X3 or Super Mario: Legend of the Seven Stars. But I really want a version of Final Fantasy with a better translation and the bugs fixed and no one else is making that cart, so maybe I'll get one any way lol
I actually have a Mac so I don’t think it’ll work but it’s ok I’m not very techie so I probably won’t attempt this but it’s still very interesting to watch
Hi do the gq-3x is good for making my own cart??
Where is a link to download this software?
Two things since they have a got to tell me was not an endorsement second thing is I picked up some cool things other day I will be making a video soon
what do you mean by splitting games ?
How much do they cost? I went to the site but sold out. To be fair does it cost more than a snes 2 sd as that's a good way to go. Another one a raspberry pi. I was thinking about this but to be fair is it worth the cost. No cart ripping. Buy a raspberry pi and a snes case done.
Yes they are pretty neat!
Hey, is there an option to get this to work with 8MB (64 megabit) SNES games?
Hey JR what game can I use to swap Boards with The Legend of Zelda?
Mister Riggs! I want to make a cartridge for Metroid Rogue Dawn. Rogue Dawn has a battery / save function, but the original did not. Other than the board, is there anything else I need to keep in mind when making this? Is the mapper different?
will they work on Pal systems?
To me, part of the appeal of making a repro is keeping something from going in a landfill. You're probably not going to find homes for all those crappy games, especially if they're not working or have bad labels, so why not make something new with them? Plus, you get to use a real NES cartridge shell to make your games, giving them a little extra authentic feel. You can still do that with a new board, sure, but then you're left with a naked game board that nobody wants, which kind of defeats the purpose of using a new board.
I've been looking through their website, unfortunatly is not avaiable at the moment. Do they ship to Europe?
Btw, do you think this is a good place to start, for people like me, that never made a repro?
Cheers John and Thank for sharing ,)
This helps if you just want to have a few
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games I see. I will keep an eye on them ,)
I'll be using one of these for my game once NES Maker comes out 😉.
I like the idea but it’s so much cheaper to buy a muramasa board and the parts to assemble it
Oh, it is! It sure is. These are handy in a pinch, though.
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games they are good if you want to make a lot of games in a short amount of time.
I think these are more for making a few hacks or homebrews for yourself or friends. That's what I use them for. These are not for making tons of games for profit.
Eric Rook not what I meant. I mean if you need to make a lot of games for yourself or friends.
Yeah, if you're making all of your friends a bunch of games each, it will add up. The board is $15-20, cart shell is about $5, and even labels can be up to $5. That's $25-30 per game (not counting shipping). A lot of times its a lot cheaper to buy the hack or homebrew from AliExpress and buy a new label. If they sell the game you want on AliExpress.
Ehh, I prefer soldering. It relaxes me.
Any Sega ones?
can you do tomy tron for nes
Yes its new clean way to má ke repro. But it is no fun, making this reproduction. I love your early videos because it was fun to see you trying and figuring out how its work. Muramasa and other repro boards is still good way for me, to make repros.
Hey John,
I’m working on a Rom hack for my son, if I was to supply a cartridge and the Rom hack could you make one up for me.
I’ll even design the label
No soldering, you make me sad John :)
Old fashioned or newfangled.
It's all good 👍
Wish you could still buy them.
Sadly they don'sell the progrmer right now. The redesigned version should have been up since jan.18.
You lucky one got one of the programmes !
INL is a nuclear lab in Idaho.
PLEASE take StarFox 2 from the SNES Classic and put it on a StarFox SNES cartridge! The Super FX Chip is needed soooooo much to make StarFox SNES truly great. the software emulator they use in the SNES classic is great but the games needing the Super FX chip have serious problems especially speed and response ;-...(
Honestly, if you were to calculate your time being worth minimum wage that $20 board is probably a bargain.
Where can i get this
Watch the video.
Waiting for a GB/GBC/GBA boards
I really like the idea of this, but it would work out way too expensive for my liking.
seriously 20 bucks a blank , maybe though it looks like a really equipped full board .
As I'm watching this, I wanted to pick up a set, but it was all sold out...
Make pokemon yellow on nes I'll buy it!! Great vid
Kyle Gregory I got that game a couple of data ago on a physical cart ,)
Awesome stuff.
How much does it cost for a few of them since the original games might be a large profit...
also this might be better, and does it work with saving after you needed to take a break?
Hello, can I ask you something please?
Could make me into a wrestling game
make a Nintendo famicom repro
Snes cartridge modify to sdcard
There is a case on thingiverse if ya want to keep the programmer out of the elements.
Cheaper and easier to just buy the game I'm starting to think.
Destroy all the sports games you want most sports games are hard resellers but there is some old that u don't wanta destroy example blades of steal yea not the best but always a classic and mutant league series tho that series could of gone so much farer
👍😊 Cool
Cool
Would be nice if you could buy it, but you can't.
caption in Portuguese or Spanish please,
Too expensive to make any profit
I'm 670
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