I feel like the opposite is happening, at least in one medium. With adult animation, it seems like splatter punk might be up for a renaissance if it hasn't happened already. Shows like castlevania, invincible, and vox machina are all subscribing to the theme of shocking, gorey, death scenes that very much apply to characters we dont want to see die. The only caveat being that they're more action oriented than horror.
I wonder about your thoughts over the videogame hotline miami. The game on itself is structured in a way that incites violence and it's visuals are absolutely gory to an exaggerated degree. And yet the narrative of the game and it's presentation is a meaningful criticism on violence for the sake of violence and a commentary on humanity's proclivity towards conflict and harm
The comic book Crossed is something I consider splatterpunk. I don't know if it's still going on, but it's had a number of creative teams, each focusing on their own arcs with different characters. Gory to the max, and TWs for just about everything. The webcomic Wish You Were Here is a good one.
I was thinking one of the reasons was because it's that issue related to the Author's Take on Mature Content, that the people who do it just go overboard with it just for the sake of being edgy or shocking and it ends up becoming repetitive and stagnant.
Even for making gore or explicit content, you need class. If you make a story that its only purpose is the shock value, what kind of value this story has, aside from the morbid content? If that's the only claim, then its a story that does not worth it.
Dunno if Chainsaw Man has your Splatterpunk aesthetic your talking about, but after reading the manga & watching the anime, I say it is Splatterpunk. Give it a read or watch & tell us your thoughts.
The problem with today splatterpunk genre is in my opinion, how it is mainly used for shock value, and focus all on gore, which is not a bad thing in itself, but it often gets boring if its main purpose is shock valve.
The late 1960s animated TV series The Lone Ranger, a hybrid of the original 1950s live action TV series The Lone Ranger and The Wild Wild West (the TV series, not the film), was possibly my first exposure to what would be called steampunk today, although I didn't know it at the time. Would you consider it as such based on your description here, Omni?
I think with Splatterpunk, its not so much an aesthetic you think of, but moreso the authors behind it. When I hear the term, I think of Ray Garton, Skipp & Spector, Edward Lee, Clive Barker (to an extent), David Schow. I'm sure there are more current Splatterpunk authors but i haven't read enough yet for them to come mind instantly.
Splatterpunk ran into the same wall that killed slasher flicks after the 80s: the creators behind them got lazy or apathetic, best-case worst-case, respectively.
All these punks are git my head scratching trying to keep up. (Stitchpunk is my favorite btw *praise 9* ) It sounds like splatterpunk as a horror genre had conflicting goals from the get go, at least how you describe it. people who don’t deserve to be part of a community that has innate evil already in it kinda muddles the point. I guess they could be treated to in separate stories, but that just leaves it with even less of a unified identity.
I see it as "Cyberpunk is popular. So are splatter movies so let's coin splatterpunk for some attention & to get horror movie fans to buy our books." That was the 80s, when punk & splatter still retained subversive power. Nowadays, cyberpunk is irrelevant since we're living it and splatter & punk have been co-opted by the mainstream. IMO the "-punk" genre suffix became meaningless & was used to indicate an aesthetic. And I've never heard anyone refer to films as splatterpunk. The few splatterpunk novels I read had some excessive gore & violence, usually involved serial killers or true crime style subject matter. Nowadays explicit gore in fiction is no big deal unless it involves a dog. What's lost is that true crime books & mags were once frowned up by the mainstream. Let's be honest, people read them for shocking subject matter, but the rationalization was it humanized the suffering of the victims. Now that genre is as mainstream as it gets: popular with middle aged women. Best to think of sub-subgenres as seasonal flavors of the zeitgeist, there's no bringing it back, regardless how badly some may cling to or try to revive it.
I feel like the opposite is happening, at least in one medium. With adult animation, it seems like splatter punk might be up for a renaissance if it hasn't happened already. Shows like castlevania, invincible, and vox machina are all subscribing to the theme of shocking, gorey, death scenes that very much apply to characters we dont want to see die. The only caveat being that they're more action oriented than horror.
Your right. Splatterpunk books are making a pretty big wave, and I think it’s because of the woke movement.
I wonder about your thoughts over the videogame hotline miami.
The game on itself is structured in a way that incites violence and it's visuals are absolutely gory to an exaggerated degree. And yet the narrative of the game and it's presentation is a meaningful criticism on violence for the sake of violence and a commentary on humanity's proclivity towards conflict and harm
The comic book Crossed is something I consider splatterpunk. I don't know if it's still going on, but it's had a number of creative teams, each focusing on their own arcs with different characters. Gory to the max, and TWs for just about everything. The webcomic Wish You Were Here is a good one.
I was thinking one of the reasons was because it's that issue related to the Author's Take on Mature Content, that the people who do it just go overboard with it just for the sake of being edgy or shocking and it ends up becoming repetitive and stagnant.
Even for making gore or explicit content, you need class. If you make a story that its only purpose is the shock value, what kind of value this story has, aside from the morbid content? If that's the only claim, then its a story that does not worth it.
Dunno if Chainsaw Man has your Splatterpunk aesthetic your talking about, but after reading the manga & watching the anime, I say it is Splatterpunk. Give it a read or watch & tell us your thoughts.
I was about to bring that up too, Chainsaw man definitely sounds like the perfect modern splatterpunk
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You've talked about these different punk subgenres, I'm curious is there a guide that catalogs all these punk subgenres?
What is the name of the anime that apears at the title card?
Elfen Lied
Remember you reviewed Deep rising?, I think that counts as Splatterpunk
so does that mean fist of the north star and violence jack is splatter punk.
The problem with today splatterpunk genre is in my opinion, how it is mainly used for shock value, and focus all on gore, which is not a bad thing in itself, but it often gets boring if its main purpose is shock valve.
Do Tarantinos Movies Count As “Splatterpunk”?
Absolutely
Starship troopers as well
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Something gone and yet awards just held for it.
The late 1960s animated TV series The Lone Ranger, a hybrid of the original 1950s live action TV series The Lone Ranger and The Wild Wild West (the TV series, not the film), was possibly my first exposure to what would be called steampunk today, although I didn't know it at the time. Would you consider it as such based on your description here, Omni?
I am writing my own splatter punk as world building and hopefully a dang good story
I think with Splatterpunk, its not so much an aesthetic you think of, but moreso the authors behind it. When I hear the term, I think of Ray Garton, Skipp & Spector, Edward Lee, Clive Barker (to an extent), David Schow. I'm sure there are more current Splatterpunk authors but i haven't read enough yet for them to come mind instantly.
Splatterpunk ran into the same wall that killed slasher flicks after the 80s: the creators behind them got lazy or apathetic, best-case worst-case, respectively.
All these punks are git my head scratching trying to keep up. (Stitchpunk is my favorite btw *praise 9* )
It sounds like splatterpunk as a horror genre had conflicting goals from the get go, at least how you describe it. people who don’t deserve to be part of a community that has innate evil already in it kinda muddles the point. I guess they could be treated to in separate stories, but that just leaves it with even less of a unified identity.
I see it as "Cyberpunk is popular. So are splatter movies so let's coin splatterpunk for some attention & to get horror movie fans to buy our books." That was the 80s, when punk & splatter still retained subversive power. Nowadays, cyberpunk is irrelevant since we're living it and splatter & punk have been co-opted by the mainstream. IMO the "-punk" genre suffix became meaningless & was used to indicate an aesthetic. And I've never heard anyone refer to films as splatterpunk. The few splatterpunk novels I read had some excessive gore & violence, usually involved serial killers or true crime style subject matter. Nowadays explicit gore in fiction is no big deal unless it involves a dog. What's lost is that true crime books & mags were once frowned up by the mainstream. Let's be honest, people read them for shocking subject matter, but the rationalization was it humanized the suffering of the victims. Now that genre is as mainstream as it gets: popular with middle aged women. Best to think of sub-subgenres as seasonal flavors of the zeitgeist, there's no bringing it back, regardless how badly some may cling to or try to revive it.
I agree I never see the term splatterpunk used as an actual genre just a word someone calls something with all of gore.
Terrifier 2 is probably the most recent splatterpunk movie my guy
@@tarzantabi7845 Thanks for the heads up my dude. It looks brutal
Omni you are brilliant within your genres. Horror is obviously not your forte
Having read his short story collection, I have to disagree with that assessment. He absolutely understands horror and how to do it.
@@vidwatcher30s He probably just doesn't know how to criticize it
no one really wants to decorate their rooms with blood, right? Right? I hope it doesn't go mainstream
Why do you people insist on paying everything up with your lame commentaries?
It's a garbage genre for people who need help