Dude, these are absolutely fantastic. The Death of Socrates by Jacques Louis David has always been my mental picture of Socrates. I've always wondered what gave him the strength and tenacity to look death so directly in the eyes, and you gave it the update it needed to put it into perspective for me. Nice job, homie. Keep these up, please.
From the first time I read Plato's Apology until now that trial enrages me. It is the clearest proof that unbridled democracy is not always a good, and how brilliant our Founders were to put checks in place to protect us. And certainly it was not the only time that the Athenians condemned innocent men, talented men, who could have contributed so much to that great city. Athens deprived itself of the most valuable asset any man or city or business could have, a truth teller, unbiased by petty motives. A great man whose wisdom lives on was brought down by the basest reason, petty jealousy, and it is fitting no one remembers the names of his accusers.
You should make a modern account of Alexander the great speech to his troops when they revolted or the speech of the Roman legionnaries that revolted against caesar in norte africa
We are always students, learning from each other. Some are further down some paths than others, but there's seldom a consistent test of wiseness in our world
In fact cognitive excellence is what becomes the question and Socrates clears that test with " critical thinking " endeavors throughput life attempting to next generations to " think different " a buzzword existing present times of amazing development. Thanks. Socrates is my everlasting motivator since long.
Yesterday I finally had time to go see Oppenheimer. One of the themed things in the movie is the strategic use of Administrative Law for political ends. The process depicted in the film, through which the US state refused to renew the scientist's national security license, was a farce. During the instruction, the scientist did not have the right to defend himself properly. Only at the end did Oppenheimer learn that the process was initiated because of the letter sent to the FBI by an adversary who was convinced that the scientist could be a communist spy or, at the very least, suspected of having facilitated the espionage in Los Alamos. The evidence collected during the summary instruction was of no importance for the decision, because the result had been prearranged. The similarities between the process portrayed in the film and what happened to Julian Assange in England are evident. The WikiLeaks journalist is also the victim of a judicial farce. He was wrongly arrested in and cannot be treated as a spy in the US because he published information that all the major newspapers in the world also published. The process that resulted in Lula's unjust conviction and imprisonment in Brazil was also a shameful example of the strategic use of Law for political ends. The same can be said about what is happening with José Sócrates in Portugal. Keeping due proportions, the case of Socrates in Athens ran into the same problem: the denial of justice through accusations that can at least be called absurd and unjust. His process appears to have been less fraudulent, but the philosopher's conduct indicates that he knew the outcome was predetermined.
Great introduction to your project! I subscribe! You really should give credit to whomever is doing your incredible illustrations! How are they made? Are they paintings? Theater? Photoshop? AI? The hair! My god!
I love when he used the strong argument: "Isn't it odd that in all important matters we think logically and critically. But in the most important matter, the gods, we resort to guesswork and fallacies?" Also cool is slavery was a capital offense. Compare that to the Roman Catholics who 500yrs later canonized slavery as an institution, with severe beatings and family splitting.
Your title is utterly misleading because Xenophon's accounts on everything pertaining to Socrates and extant is readily available in any Library you care to visit together with his Anabasis. Xenophon is not some obscure writer that nobody has ever heard of
You are right to give Xenophon his due. But consider that in Elizabethan theater there was Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare. To say that Xenophon is less well-known is not to insult him. It's just a fact that he was very good and very interesting as opposed to a genius of the ages. Marlow to Plato's Shakespeare.
A mate of mine was told to 'get out of Belfast and never come back or die'. And he replied 'Aye, well you lot are going to die in Belfast so who's the c***?'. (Sic)
There's more to this story than this guy is telling you. Xenophon was sympathetic of Sparta; he went on to serve Sparta after the Rule of the Thirty. Five of Socrates' students were connected to the Rule of the Thirty, and two of them, Critias and Theramenes, were directly responsible and the highest leaders of the short -lived oligarchy of the Thirty. Another one of Socrates' students, who he had a pederast relationship with, was Alcibiades, who was fiercely hated after the Rule of the Thirty, and whose father was Pericles, the Democratic leader of Athens that Socrates had a lot of criticism for. Plato blatantly admitted that he was admittes into the Thirty, and came up with apologetics after the rule collapsed and his loyalties were questioned. Then he wrote The Republic, a defense of authoritarianism. Socrates wasn't a hero; he was a charismatic snake, and what he's presented to you here is a complete obsfucation of the issue that he was actually being convicted for. Many people were forced to drink hemlock in the wake of the Rule of the Thirty--but somehow we've come to think that he was condemned for being an outspoken philosopher. Don't call pederasts and traitors of democracy heroes.
@@Azihayya He was a pederast 😳. Nuff said... drink, drink, drink!!! I'm not familiar with the storyline. He simply sounded like an anti-establisment, humble dude and if that establishment was anything like the current one, kudos. Thanks for the Lebowski vernacular 😂
@@aanii2878 I mean, we tend to forget that ancient Greece was a patriarchal aristocracy built on the labor of slaves. It's difficult to say that anyone was a hero of that time, yet we've developed a really odd admiration and nostalgia for ancient Greece nevertheless.
All political systems are oligarchies at their core, more patriarchal societies perform better than less patriarchal ones all else being equal, and slavery is completely acceptable when you don't want to kill a hostile population or when the slavery conditions are better than leaving them in the wild. Plato is based, and Socrates is a hero.
@@JohnDoe-yk3ji You're just an authoritarian sympathizer. Only the most despicable people are going to agree with you. What you believe is beneath contempt; your stupid backwards ways will naturally die away and there really isn't anything that you can do to stop it. It's interesting that people like you will take a stand to validate everything that I'm saying, though, to the chagrin of many of your more moderate contemporaries.
Watching this presentation is like attempting to watch some news broadcasts, where they often spend more time 'selling the news, then telling the news'.
Moses was one hundred and twenty years old when he died. His eyes were not dim nor his natural vigor diminished. We need not fear growing old if we trust in our Lord.
Picture someone is got caught in the act of doing something embarasing, mean or even wrong. How would the socratic warcry sound then, huh? We all know quite well enough a lot of things we would gladly hide at times while presuming another lot of things we know not. Socrates was engaged in debunking pressumptions and not teaching others to talk themselves out of troubles. It would not surprise me if that famous saying would be found as Plato's words eventually.
What about the Anunnaki of Sumerian lore? The Book of Genesis was derived from the Sumerian 'Enuma Elish' tablets. And the great deluge told in their Epic of Gilgamesh.
Xenophon my favorite pagan, He wrote a book on Socrates, but Plato was better, he wrote a book of history, but Thucydides was better, and he did a great miliary. exploit, but Alexander was greater.
@@jamessheffield4173 Dave Mustaine started a band but James Hetfield was better...known -- oh you're a Heffield not a Hetfield, my mistake 😅 hope you enjoy their bands anyway.
Ay man, I love these, I would pay for a whole movie on The Republic by Plato with modern speech
Thanks, brother! The Republic is in the works and tips are more than welcome It's fairly long, so it will be a series.
@LegendaryLore-dx5xl wow thank you for this channel and content. I will look forward to your series on the republic!
Dude, these are absolutely fantastic. The Death of Socrates by Jacques Louis David has always been my mental picture of Socrates. I've always wondered what gave him the strength and tenacity to look death so directly in the eyes, and you gave it the update it needed to put it into perspective for me. Nice job, homie. Keep these up, please.
"Wisest is he who knows what he does not know." :-) Glad I found this channel. Looking forward to listening to more of these videos. Cheers!
From first hearing this story as a child, I felt it a damning testimonial to the greatness of man.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Socrates had a right pair of bollocks on him. And self-esteem doesn’t seem to be a problem.
Quickly became one of my favorite channels! Keep it up
From the first time I read Plato's Apology until now that trial enrages me. It is the clearest proof that unbridled democracy is not always a good, and how brilliant our Founders were to put checks in place to protect us. And certainly it was not the only time that the Athenians condemned innocent men, talented men, who could have contributed so much to that great city. Athens deprived itself of the most valuable asset any man or city or business could have, a truth teller, unbiased by petty motives. A great man whose wisdom lives on was brought down by the basest reason, petty jealousy, and it is fitting no one remembers the names of his accusers.
This channel is a rare gem of the internet.
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@@alwayshere6956 I went to check it out...turns out I'm already subscribed 😅
That was Awesome!
Thank you
Cant wait for more amazing content from this channel!
Another great journey!
I happy you enjoyed it!
You should make a modern account of Alexander the great speech to his troops when they revolted or the speech of the Roman legionnaries that revolted against caesar in norte africa
Thanks for the suggestion, friend! I've now added both to the list.
That would be amazing! Excellent suggestion
@@TheLegendaryLore Please add Cicero to the list.
@@tomjackson4374 Cicero's De Officiis is on the list, but it's pretty long and will take some time to do.
Alexander's speech is now published :)
th-cam.com/video/_XAvQPnpZro/w-d-xo.html
6:30 ... and who would you say is wiser than a person who's never stopped seeking and learning good things ...?
We are always students, learning from each other. Some are further down some paths than others, but there's seldom a consistent test of wiseness in our world
I am very impressed with your channel. Looking forward for more content.
In fact cognitive excellence is what becomes the question and Socrates clears that test with " critical thinking " endeavors throughput life attempting to next generations to " think different " a buzzword existing present times of amazing development. Thanks. Socrates is my everlasting motivator since long.
Yesterday I finally had time to go see Oppenheimer.
One of the themed things in the movie is the strategic use of Administrative Law for political ends. The process depicted in the film, through which the US state refused to renew the scientist's national security license, was a farce. During the instruction, the scientist did not have the right to defend himself properly. Only at the end did Oppenheimer learn that the process was initiated because of the letter sent to the FBI by an adversary who was convinced that the scientist could be a communist spy or, at the very least, suspected of having facilitated the espionage in Los Alamos. The evidence collected during the summary instruction was of no importance for the decision, because the result had been prearranged.
The similarities between the process portrayed in the film and what happened to Julian Assange in England are evident. The WikiLeaks journalist is also the victim of a judicial farce. He was wrongly arrested in and cannot be treated as a spy in the US because he published information that all the major newspapers in the world also published. The process that resulted in Lula's unjust conviction and imprisonment in Brazil was also a shameful example of the strategic use of Law for political ends. The same can be said about what is happening with José Sócrates in Portugal.
Keeping due proportions, the case of Socrates in Athens ran into the same problem: the denial of justice through accusations that can at least be called absurd and unjust. His process appears to have been less fraudulent, but the philosopher's conduct indicates that he knew the outcome was predetermined.
nice channel, subscribed
fantastic commentary !
Thank you🙏🙏
Best video on TH-cam.
This was beautifully done! Thank you!
Thank you too!
Great introduction to your project! I subscribe!
You really should give credit to whomever is doing your incredible illustrations!
How are they made? Are they paintings? Theater? Photoshop? AI? The hair! My god!
I was going to ask that as well.
Every time i hear this enlightening stories about Socrates, it makes me feel like i am feeding the soul with the best food of intellectual thought
The 'divine voice' thing was so perfect. Not an actual voice, like the bird thing.
you have motivated me to learns more about philosophy I have been such an ignorant for a long time
I'm thinking a Christopher Nolan level of producer/director should make a film out of this.
@arielcandoleta5347 - The woke, feminist, CRT, LGBTQ+ reviewers would have a field day!
then he would be canceled because a fat black trans lesbian in a wheel chair was not cast as Socrates
Love It 🎉🎉🎉
love is a magnet once attached to , even time won't let it go
Loved it thank you 🙏
This is amazing
For me, the thing I have learned from this , is that God appears in many ways. Truly, the divine spoke through this man.
I love when he used the strong argument: "Isn't it odd that in all important matters we think logically and critically. But in the most important matter, the gods, we resort to guesswork and fallacies?"
Also cool is slavery was a capital offense. Compare that to the Roman Catholics who 500yrs later canonized slavery as an institution, with severe beatings and family splitting.
Where these pictures come from¿is there a movie¿ anyone¿
awesome
Your title is utterly misleading because Xenophon's accounts on everything pertaining to Socrates and extant is readily available in any Library you care to visit together with his Anabasis. Xenophon is not some obscure writer that nobody has ever heard of
You are right to give Xenophon his due. But consider that in Elizabethan theater there was Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare. To say that Xenophon is less well-known is not to insult him. It's just a fact that he was very good and very interesting as opposed to a genius of the ages. Marlow to Plato's Shakespeare.
Love how AI thinks everyone in the ancient world looked like George Clooney
He died a hero, not living long enough to see yourself become a villain... What a gent...
Oh, Socrates, if only we could hear you today... But wait! We have our friend at Legendary Law to speak for you!
Thank you
A mate of mine was told to 'get out of Belfast and never come back or die'. And he replied 'Aye, well you lot are going to die in Belfast so who's the c***?'. (Sic)
You see! Its proof! Socrates knew what a truck was! ANCIENT HIGH TECHNOLOGIES!
“truck loads of problems”…. I wonder how many trucks they had back then. 🤣
MSSP Brought me here. Aint ashamed of it dawgs.
Good men are rarely honored in their own country 😢
There's more to this story than this guy is telling you. Xenophon was sympathetic of Sparta; he went on to serve Sparta after the Rule of the Thirty. Five of Socrates' students were connected to the Rule of the Thirty, and two of them, Critias and Theramenes, were directly responsible and the highest leaders of the short -lived oligarchy of the Thirty.
Another one of Socrates' students, who he had a pederast relationship with, was Alcibiades, who was fiercely hated after the Rule of the Thirty, and whose father was Pericles, the Democratic leader of Athens that Socrates had a lot of criticism for.
Plato blatantly admitted that he was admittes into the Thirty, and came up with apologetics after the rule collapsed and his loyalties were questioned. Then he wrote The Republic, a defense of authoritarianism.
Socrates wasn't a hero; he was a charismatic snake, and what he's presented to you here is a complete obsfucation of the issue that he was actually being convicted for. Many people were forced to drink hemlock in the wake of the Rule of the Thirty--but somehow we've come to think that he was condemned for being an outspoken philosopher.
Don't call pederasts and traitors of democracy heroes.
@@Azihayya He was a pederast 😳. Nuff said... drink, drink, drink!!!
I'm not familiar with the storyline. He simply sounded like an anti-establisment, humble dude and if that establishment was anything like the current one, kudos.
Thanks for the Lebowski vernacular 😂
@@aanii2878 I mean, we tend to forget that ancient Greece was a patriarchal aristocracy built on the labor of slaves. It's difficult to say that anyone was a hero of that time, yet we've developed a really odd admiration and nostalgia for ancient Greece nevertheless.
All political systems are oligarchies at their core, more patriarchal societies perform better than less patriarchal ones all else being equal, and slavery is completely acceptable when you don't want to kill a hostile population or when the slavery conditions are better than leaving them in the wild.
Plato is based, and Socrates is a hero.
@@JohnDoe-yk3ji You're just an authoritarian sympathizer. Only the most despicable people are going to agree with you. What you believe is beneath contempt; your stupid backwards ways will naturally die away and there really isn't anything that you can do to stop it.
It's interesting that people like you will take a stand to validate everything that I'm saying, though, to the chagrin of many of your more moderate contemporaries.
Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse. - Socrates
Watching this presentation is like attempting to watch some news broadcasts, where they often spend more time 'selling the news, then telling the news'.
Please explain.
I guess the presentation does "sell the news" but I wouldn't say more than telling the news.
Try doin' that nowadays at a Starbucks, waving around a Hemlock Frapacinno and see whose impressed 😮
Cool guy 😎 👍
Moses was one hundred and twenty years old when he died. His eyes were not dim nor his natural vigor diminished. We need not fear growing old if we trust in our Lord.
Picture someone is got caught in the act of doing something embarasing, mean or even wrong. How would the socratic warcry sound then, huh? We all know quite well enough a lot of things we would gladly hide at times while presuming another lot of things we know not. Socrates was engaged in debunking pressumptions and not teaching others to talk themselves out of troubles. It would not surprise me if that famous saying would be found as Plato's words eventually.
Did Xenophon really say the word "awesome" in his commentary?
Socrates must a been a pretty hip cat to use the word awesome
I guess you're right
Unfortunately people never learnt from him
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Everybody on this planet was once black.
FOAD
Socrates died for out sins...lol.
In seeking knowledge never leave out Christ the light of the world.
Not even when he doesn't pertain to the subject or add any knowledge of it?
What about the Anunnaki of Sumerian lore? The Book of Genesis was derived from the Sumerian 'Enuma Elish' tablets. And the great deluge told in their Epic of Gilgamesh.
@@davidhoffman6980 I suppose some would try to argue "if it doesn't pertain to Christ or God then it is of no importance."
Xenophon my favorite pagan, He wrote a book on Socrates, but Plato was better, he wrote a book of history, but Thucydides was better, and he did a great miliary. exploit, but Alexander was greater.
What do you mean by "better" and "greater" and how can we determine that?
@@davidhoffman6980 Might just say better known.
@@jamessheffield4173 I see.
@@davidhoffman6980 Yup. Blessings.
@@jamessheffield4173 Dave Mustaine started a band but James Hetfield was better...known -- oh you're a Heffield not a Hetfield, my mistake 😅 hope you enjoy their bands anyway.
Never teach them how to write...
Classical cancel culture.
They had truck's back then. 🏛️☘️