If you don't modify the mags, any mags, to stay tight up against the barrel, these hang ups will continue. I messed around with my old 10/22 for, well, longer then I care to remember. Then I seen an old boy on a video take a bunch of cheap mags, build them up with baking soda and superglue, grind them into shape with a dremel, and no more issues! Figured, what have I got to lose? I've got a mess of those cheap 30 round eagle mags, so I tried it on them, and I'll be damned!! They work as bout as well as the tight fitting 10 round mags do with any ammo, if not better!!! ;-)
Nice tip. We did a similar thing with saw dust and epoxy on a friends boat. I never would have thought of baking soda and glue. I’m squirreling that away for a rainy day.
Hey bud just watched your video thinking out loud here but I've had good experience with trying to put a couple layers of electrical tape on the rear back corner of magazines to ensure that they sit all the way forward in the magwell. If your magazines have wobble forward and aft it'll cause problems with extraction because the primary extractor is on the top of your magazine.
@@ZackCarlsondid you ever find a combination that works? I’m an 07/02, 15s work fine, 25s I can’t get to run..currently working on bolt weights to match stock bolt and parts weight to the open bolt weight
@@ZackCarlson dustin ellermann mentioned in comment section under one of his videos that it's a little shaky and I don't under stand that. Btw shop ordered mine on 11/20/19, came in 2/8/20 and did paperwork the same day. Got to take pictures and look at it. Now I'm just waiting 👍. N love your videos
@@ZackCarlson the only magazines I use in my Full-Auto Ruger 10/22 are the factory original 10 round rotary magazines and the MWG 50 round drum magazines. Contact me if you would like more information.
It doesn't work with heavier optics that's for sure. When I contacted them they told me they made a different plate for lighter optics like Shield RMS and Sig Romeo 0 that work fine.
DN I have the same setup you mentioned. I have a cheap ADE red dot on it. Runs flawlessly. I think lakeline sells the ade sites as well but I got mine off of Amazon. It bolts up perfect. My only problem now is I had to remove the site and the lakeline mount. The mount screw which is actually the original rear site screw fell on the ground and went into another universe. Finding a replacement screw is becoming a real pain. I put the regular sites back on using one of the screws that comes with the lakeline plate. So far so good. Try to use it on the lakeline plate but the head of the screw is small to where it will pull through the plate hole.
@@ZackCarlson Thank you for the reply. I recently (like it received it in the mail yesterday) ordered the optics plate to put my Burris FF3 on it. As I was waiting for it to arrive, I saw your video on you testing 6-7 diff cans on your tx22 w/ optic and none of them cycled reliably. That made me concerned with that exact set-up as I will always have my SiCo Warlock II on it. Now I am hesitant to install the mount plate at-all. Should I return it, or, order the lighter spring that you talked about in you original vid?
I would ask lakeline. They originally told me they were going to do a lighter recoil. When I came to them to actually get it that’s when they told me about fixing it by going lighter optic vs lighter recoil spring.
My advice is to get a Lotus Elise. Maybe the extractor/spring isn't keeping up with RoF. Check everything's smooth, no sharp edges. I'm probably wrong.
If you have a warn, oem or old extractor they are a loww cost upgrade to help prevent this or remove a variable! I prefer to match mine to barrel. Like on my 10" with KiDD barrel I also have a KiDD extractor. just because they were designed to fit but since all barrel manufacturers dont make extractors, getting one from any of the top companies would be a low cost, high value and reliable upgrade!
Stovepipping is not a mag issue. 22lr is notorious for it's inconsistency in loads. Cheap 22lr is especially bad and prone for light loads. Even expensive shit like Eley can do it. MATCH ammo means it is supposed to be better metered from round to round but even that is not immune to the issue.
Hello community, very interesting video, could someone explain to me what this commentary how can we do to modify this rifle so that it works in full automatic, is there an accessory to buy, possibly where can we find it, what is the name of this accessory, thank you very much.
The only legal was is to buy a Norrell 10-22 trigger pack ($10,000 - $15,000 if you can find one for sale). Then just do the ATF paperwork for an NFA weapon, give them $200 and wait for approval (6-12 months usually).
It might be the magazines I have the same clear bx1 10 round mags and I've noticed on the clear mags on the ones I have the rotary in the mag is that strong as all my black magazines that I have
Hello goodmorning I'm a 10/22 collector enthusiasts and have many binary 10/22 but always wanted to know how do you turn it full auto? Can you help me with that please. Even if you gave get me a step by step handbook or guide I would pay you for your knowledge.
Two options, become an FFL manufacturer with a SOT license, or track down a 10/22 registered transferable Norrel trigger pack from the late 80s at 10-15k and rarely come on the market and do an NFA transfer
Get a binary trigger ..you can unload a mag just as quick...and its legal...it fires when you pull the trigger and again when you release it....franklin armory
Looking like a typical 10/22 . End up screwing around with them more than you can shoot them. I have given up on them dame things. If you get a stainless one they work better but if it's the aluminum receiver throw it away and get a better one.
Could you PLEASE do a video of you shooting that charger Enoch build you did. Requested by a poor soul in California that doesn’t have access to something like that. 🤞🏼🙏🏼
@@ZackCarlson so after documentation, do they provide with exact info for conversion to make it as safe as possible, or they just give you a green flag to convert it?
Now don't forget the design of the top of a Ruger 10/22 box magazine has the primary extractor built in. Only a secondary extractor is behind that which is for extracting rounds when you have no magazine in the magwell.
Short barrel and suppressor, with the right ammo it’s sub sonic and just fine to shoot with out ear pro because the ear pro is on the end of the barrel
Pls tell the folks that there is a difference between the extractor and ejector. If you don't know the what the function of each is you have no business dicking around with a firearm.
Working with the binary trigger for the last 3 months. I found out i was getting those stove pipes and the mag wasnt fully going into battery. I think since watching a few things about tungsten that it is extremely heavy. When shooting subsonic ammo you are dealing with lower loads. But you want to cycle faster for machine gun applications. Pretty much once you dial it in it because picky for the ammo it eats. But back to the charging handle. The handle is always overlooked for weight. The stock i way lighter. And any subsonic user in forum profess they need a lighter bolt. That why the volquarson firefly bolt was created being only 2.5 ounces or something like that. While the stock bolt is 6 ounces. With the weight of your bolt and your handle looks like it brought up the weight to the point where it cant fully cycle the bolt long enough so that the mag can't catch up(this was my problem). So what i did was go for a kidd aluminum charging handle and polished my bolt from tool markings. Im finding out the problem with the binary trigger for the 10/22 hammer spring gets worn out extremely qu that light primer strikes seem to happen faster. So with the crazy amount of ammo i spent. I found out for soubsonic on binary mod. You want the kidd high tension spring with a ligher bolt(using kidds scaled and aluminum handle. It seems to get me off with a extremely fast rate of fire without problems. For the take down version i notice that the extractor from the kidd bolt to the tactical solutions barrel wasn't fully seating as easy as it seemed counter to fully seating the shell in getting positive strikes. If i where you go for a lighter handle and see if you can go back to high tension spring from kidds. Then see where you are. I also polished my mag lips aswell and within the insides to help it not get stuck when loading.
If you don't modify the mags, any mags, to stay tight up against the barrel, these hang ups will continue. I messed around with my old 10/22 for, well, longer then I care to remember. Then I seen an old boy on a video take a bunch of cheap mags, build them up with baking soda and superglue, grind them into shape with a dremel, and no more issues! Figured, what have I got to lose? I've got a mess of those cheap 30 round eagle mags, so I tried it on them, and I'll be damned!! They work as bout as well as the tight fitting 10 round mags do with any ammo, if not better!!! ;-)
Nice tip. We did a similar thing with saw dust and epoxy on a friends boat. I never would have thought of baking soda and glue. I’m squirreling that away for a rainy day.
I'd like to see some pictures of this
Mine shoots fine but Prec8 the info man
Dude how your channel doesn’t have more viewers and subs is beyond me! You’ve got some cool content!
Thanks for watching.
Hey bud just watched your video thinking out loud here but I've had good experience with trying to put a couple layers of electrical tape on the rear back corner of magazines to ensure that they sit all the way forward in the magwell. If your magazines have wobble forward and aft it'll cause problems with extraction because the primary extractor is on the top of your magazine.
It looks like you’re anticipating recoil.. saw it often when a younger person went r&r M-16 .. 1968, other then.. outstanding vid. thank you 🐅
Wait huh!? What sorcery is this? How do you accomplish full auto and what is required to own and shoot it?
Lots of licensing from the Gov't and a fairly simple conversion to the gun.
Extractor is modified to be the firing pin it fires from open bolt any new full automatic weapons are illegal
Easy plenty around here
@@ZackCarlsondid you ever find a combination that works? I’m an 07/02, 15s work fine, 25s I can’t get to run..currently working on bolt weights to match stock bolt and parts weight to the open bolt weight
Its a cut under the bolt and a stuck or lil nub for a fixed fireing pin
Those Butler Creek mags jam like crazy in my experience.
My Butler Creek mags have been extremely reliable, the most reliable non-Ruger mags I have. Weird - YMMV I guess.
I have found that if you bild up the back of the magazine's under the lock in post they work like butter. And the butler creek hot lip mag's are great
ALL, I repeat all your malfunctions were magazine failures. Your transparent mags NEVER failed you.
Is this a Norrell trigger pack?
Great video and awesome setup. Also se you got that good ol El Camino on the end👍
Thanks. I love the el camino. I like it so much I rocksetted it to the barrel so I don't have to worry about it working loose!
@@ZackCarlson
dustin ellermann mentioned in comment section under one of his videos that it's a little shaky and I don't under stand that.
Btw shop ordered mine on 11/20/19, came in 2/8/20 and did paperwork the same day. Got to take pictures and look at it. Now I'm just waiting 👍. N love your videos
@@ZackCarlson the only magazines I use in my Full-Auto Ruger 10/22 are the factory original 10 round rotary magazines and the MWG 50 round drum magazines. Contact me if you would like more information.
Amazing build. So this is full auto or do you have a selector of some sort
This is full auto he doesnt have a selector you can tell by the stock
What's a selector?
@@stephenlott6968 Selector means he can switch between full auto and semi-auto.
How did you make it full auto?
What's with the weird little rotaries? Why no BX25's?
Wow, it fires on open bolt?
Have you tried bx 25 magazines? I never had any luck with butler creek.
Mine all stock clean and it stove pipes in semi. Dirty ammo idk. 8t done it since brand new
Best ever mags are the Victor Precision 25s out of Queensland, Australia.. I'm Told
That’s freakin awesome!
wow! a tanker 10/22
Great vid! But let me learn from your vids on how to get my TX22 to work/ cycle with a lakeline optic mount plate!
It doesn't work with heavier optics that's for sure. When I contacted them they told me they made a different plate for lighter optics like Shield RMS and Sig Romeo 0 that work fine.
DN I have the same setup you mentioned. I have a cheap ADE red dot on it. Runs flawlessly. I think lakeline sells the ade sites as well but I got mine off of Amazon. It bolts up perfect. My only problem now is I had to remove the site and the lakeline mount. The mount screw which is actually the original rear site screw fell on the ground and went into another universe. Finding a replacement screw is becoming a real pain. I put the regular sites back on using one of the screws that comes with the lakeline plate. So far so good. Try to use it on the lakeline plate but the head of the screw is small to where it will pull through the plate hole.
@@ZackCarlson Thank you for the reply. I recently (like it received it in the mail yesterday) ordered the optics plate to put my Burris FF3 on it. As I was waiting for it to arrive, I saw your video on you testing 6-7 diff cans on your tx22 w/ optic and none of them cycled reliably. That made me concerned with that exact set-up as I will always have my SiCo Warlock II on it. Now I am hesitant to install the mount plate at-all. Should I return it, or, order the lighter spring that you talked about in you original vid?
@@ZackCarlson also ... full freedom .22LR - Shut up and take my money!
I would ask lakeline. They originally told me they were going to do a lighter recoil. When I came to them to actually get it that’s when they told me about fixing it by going lighter optic vs lighter recoil spring.
Man that thing is beautiful! Love those cracks 💥
Thanks 👍
My advice is to get a Lotus Elise. Maybe the extractor/spring isn't keeping up with RoF. Check everything's smooth, no sharp edges. I'm probably wrong.
Thanks for watching
I thought you needed a separate tax stamp for the sir?
What state do you live in that allows this? Im from NY so dont mind me lol
KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No iron sights?
Are they selling these full auto and how much
From what i understand you remove the firing pin.....and the extractor hits the rim
Kinda, the firing pin is now machined into the bolt face
If you have a warn, oem or old extractor they are a loww cost upgrade to help prevent this or remove a variable! I prefer to match mine to barrel. Like on my 10" with KiDD barrel I also have a KiDD extractor. just because they were designed to fit but since all barrel manufacturers dont make extractors, getting one from any of the top companies would be a low cost, high value and reliable upgrade!
Thanks for watching.
Bolt open firing mechanism?
Yep!
Stovepipping is not a mag issue. 22lr is notorious for it's inconsistency in loads. Cheap 22lr is especially bad and prone for light loads. Even expensive shit like Eley can do it. MATCH ammo means it is supposed to be better metered from round to round but even that is not immune to the issue.
Thanks for watching.
ROF sounds just a little slower than the other setup. Should help with cycling.
Hello community, very interesting video, could someone explain to me what this commentary how can we do to modify this rifle so that it works in full automatic, is there an accessory to buy, possibly where can we find it, what is the name of this accessory, thank you very much.
The only legal was is to buy a Norrell 10-22 trigger pack ($10,000 - $15,000 if you can find one for sale). Then just do the ATF paperwork for an NFA weapon, give them $200 and wait for approval (6-12 months usually).
How did he make a rifle automatic?
The extractor is modes to become the firing pin. And shoots an open bolt making it like this
It might be the magazines I have the same clear bx1 10 round mags and I've noticed on the clear mags on the ones I have the rotary in the mag is that strong as all my black magazines that I have
'Isnt as strong'
Hello goodmorning I'm a 10/22 collector enthusiasts and have many binary 10/22 but always wanted to know how do you turn it full auto? Can you help me with that please. Even if you gave get me a step by step handbook or guide I would pay you for your knowledge.
Google TEK select fire
If you think of open bolts I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
Do you think Dry-Lube spray would help in the mags? Would a pivoting hammer/factory firing pin feed better than a fixed pin ?
Are you saying you use the original parts except the old firing pin?? Do not understand..
Change the ammo
How did you legally make this? Is it something I can do?
Two options, become an FFL manufacturer with a SOT license, or track down a 10/22 registered transferable Norrel trigger pack from the late 80s at 10-15k and rarely come on the market and do an NFA transfer
@@rebornfenix4412 Or not say shit.
Get a binary trigger ..you can unload a mag just as quick...and its legal...it fires when you pull the trigger and again when you release it....franklin armory
@@vonster22 Binary triggers are quick, but they're not always that quick. This is a better option.
You didn’t show how it works on full auto.
Looking like a typical 10/22 . End up screwing around with them more than you can shoot them. I have given up on them dame things. If you get a stainless one they work better but if it's the aluminum receiver throw it away and get a better one.
Could you PLEASE do a video of you shooting that charger Enoch build you did. Requested by a poor soul in California that doesn’t have access to something like that. 🤞🏼🙏🏼
Hold up… did he fart😂
lol yes 😂
What sight is that? Good vid!
Thanks. It's a See All Open Sight. It's kinda funky but does work great on this gun, it's a bullet hose so I didn't need a real precision optic.
Heard that fart
I wish I could have a fun gun now I have half a charger.
Awesome stuff. What charging handle is that?
It's a Power Custom Tungsten handle meant for 17HM2 conversions. It didnt' work out but they are sending me a different one to try.
Damn if that had no stock you could almost put it in your pocket
So you bought a fully auto pack? What brand?
No, converted the existing packs. It's not a brand or parts you can just buy.
@@ZackCarlson so after documentation, do they provide with exact info for conversion to make it as safe as possible, or they just give you a green flag to convert it?
for the love of god at least use a bx 25
I had a bunch before and they didn't even work well in semi so I sold them off, but I've got some more on order to try.
Trust your gon
Stovepipe, stovepipe, stovepipe... I'd say maybe extractor. Typically mags dont cause stovepipes.
Now don't forget the design of the top of a Ruger 10/22 box magazine has the primary extractor built in. Only a secondary extractor is behind that which is for extracting rounds when you have no magazine in the magwell.
@@DrunkPisces the magazine has an ejector, I'm talking about the extractor on the bolt.
👑👑👑👑😍
You just got jammed.......Multiple Times 🤦🏻♂️
I'd give $5 for it 🤔
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Sorry's not enough volume
10 shoot mags boring
Please wear ear protection 22 are just as harmful to your ears because it’s more high pitched
Short barrel and suppressor, with the right ammo it’s sub sonic and just fine to shoot with out ear pro because the ear pro is on the end of the barrel
Pls tell the folks that there is a difference between the extractor and ejector. If you don't know the what the function of each is you have no business dicking around with a firearm.
🤘😁🤘
Cheap magazine bro that's the problem brother
Today, that would have been like $300 in ammo..
all mags jamed. .....ugh
Working with the binary trigger for the last 3 months. I found out i was getting those stove pipes and the mag wasnt fully going into battery.
I think since watching a few things about tungsten that it is extremely heavy.
When shooting subsonic ammo you are dealing with lower loads. But you want to cycle faster for machine gun applications.
Pretty much once you dial it in it because picky for the ammo it eats. But back to the charging handle. The handle is always overlooked for weight. The stock i way lighter. And any subsonic user in forum profess they need a lighter bolt. That why the volquarson firefly bolt was created being only 2.5 ounces or something like that. While the stock bolt is 6 ounces. With the weight of your bolt and your handle looks like it brought up the weight to the point where it cant fully cycle the bolt long enough so that the mag can't catch up(this was my problem). So what i did was go for a kidd aluminum charging handle and polished my bolt from tool markings.
Im finding out the problem with the binary trigger for the 10/22 hammer spring gets worn out extremely qu that light primer strikes seem to happen faster.
So with the crazy amount of ammo i spent. I found out for soubsonic on binary mod. You want the kidd high tension spring with a ligher bolt(using kidds scaled and aluminum handle. It seems to get me off with a extremely fast rate of fire without problems.
For the take down version i notice that the extractor from the kidd bolt to the tactical solutions barrel wasn't fully seating as easy as it seemed counter to fully seating the shell in getting positive strikes.
If i where you go for a lighter handle and see if you can go back to high tension spring from kidds. Then see where you are. I also polished my mag lips aswell and within the insides to help it not get stuck when loading.
6:35 You farted👎😨👎
so not reliable.
No, not really
You talk to much
*too
@@ZackCarlson roasted
Seems to me like the timing is off...not the mags fault