.1uf. It’s subtle but feels full and I don’t think it’s muddy at all. Feels like the .022 filters out some fullness that I actually like and prefer in the sound. Nice job on the comparison. Loved it.
It's incredibly useful to cut boomy, un-needed bass for increasingly distorted sounds but not at the expense of neutering the tone. The larger .1 are clearly beneficial in classic Marshall where you're not 'really' playing high gain and retain that fuller, pleasing tone. They add bass and bandwidth later in the circuit where it is typically considered good design to do so because they don't completely alter the 'perfect' core tone. Then again, the more gain you mod into it, the more bass you need to cut in order to keep it all tight. Imho, placing a 470k resistor from bright channel pot wiper to ground is a better solution at tightening up un-needed boomy bass from your gain channel - especially if you plan on cascading!
@@eyedunno8462 In that case I would reduce bass early.on in the preamp circuit rather than in the power amp. Bass clipping gets flubby in the preamp anyway. The power amp is a matter of taste.
This was a tough choice. Each has its pros and cons. I’d go with the .1 though. The lows were looser, but the higher frequency harmonics caused by the lows added a fullness I really liked. The .1’s are the best overall choice. The .022’s were also great, tightened the low end significantly. Also, there was a upper mid punch they added, which was not present with the .1’s. I’d lean towards the .022’s if the amp will mostly be played with lead tones.
Thank you for taking all of us on this tone journey. Of course now I have a hankering for a 50 watt Super Lead amp. My two cents, like everyone else, yes, I hear a deeper/bassier tone with the .1 uf. And I also agree that the mids (where we are guitar players live) sounds better with the .022. Hopefully we either play live with other musicians or record music. The low end will end up getting cut off in a recording so it doesn't conflict with the kick or bass. In a live situation, the slight loss of the mids with that .1 uf will be lost. We want to be heard, we are guitarists. The "it sounds awesome in my home" tone, does not translate well to live settings. Go with the .22 and just turn up the bass when its just you. Maybe that was 5 cents. Thanks again for all of the education you are providing.
I want to say the the guitar all by itself may benefit from the fullness allotted by the .1uF but in the context of a band may have more focus with the .022uF caps, making room and not intruding on the bass guitar. I could imagine also, a recording engineer or live sound man high passing the guitar to make it more like the .022uF to help the guitar "fit" better into a band mix. Also, there could be incidents where one or the other works better in one room/venue or the other depending how the room exacerbates that frequency range or not. Very telling video this was, something many of us have wondered about but never had the A/B chance to hear it. Thank you!
Hey Jason, I recently discovered your channel and these types of micro-comparisons are absolute gold to tone junkies like me! I was quite literally just contemplating this change today, as I have been experimenting with a home brew Marshall-style amp which is currently running .1 caps in the PI stage. I think I'll keep them! I prefer the tone of the .1's here. They just sound so thick and chewy. Your channel has been super inspiring and my amp is sounding a heck of a lot better, thanks to you. Cheers for the awesome videos. You're a wealth of knowledge!
As Jason said, I'm hearing a bit more fuill bandwidth with the .1uF but, the slight amount of loss in the very bottom of the guitar enables more detail in the mids and upper mids, a leaner, more detailed presentation with the .022uF. Whether that is coming from a true lift in the higher harmonics or the loss of low end no longer masking the detail of the higher mids, I can't be certain which one is happening but, I may prefer the greater detail that the .022uF enables just as a momentary preference in this video. However, that isn't to say that under a wider perception of the results that either one may benefit a certain style, or inter-song/mix part could be the case. The difference was a bit more subtle than I expected.
The larger .1uf are perfect as-is in classic Marshall circuits pre 1990. They keep the bandwidth fuller and don't alter the core tone being later in the circuit. However later Marshalls (modded JCM800, 900SLX), amps that add more and more gain in the preamp the .1uf will start to show their limitations and this is where you'd seriously consider cutting some bass cut to keep everything tight, so the .022uf are the ticket. Really begs the question: Why aren't .047uf or .068uf ever used? Seems like they'd be the "goldilocks' values in the hotrodded classic Marshall tone still so extremely popular these days
Very interesting listening to both side by side. Personal preference is the 0.022 as I like the more controlled bass response, especially with the overdriven tones. The high end dna high mods seem to come through with more clarity I think. My custom 69 has 0.022 in the PI position also - probably part of the reason I like that value 😊 bass I can always turn up if I want more width in the tone 😊 and there is always the option to add the EVH fat cap on a switch (I have a two position switch with two fat cap values) which adds in that extra low end response when I need it. Anyways, just my thoughts,. Have an awesome day Jason!
The 0.10mfd give a rich tone allowing lower mids to soften and a fuller tone while the 0.022mfd are harsher hearing more mids and upper mids. I bridge in parallel 0.1 with 0.022 on the coupling caps on all my Marshalls. The Celestions do reproduce some deeper tones I do notice and like.
No recording with 1x 0.1uF and 1x 0.022uF :( ? Just kidding, this is already plenty scientific and I appreciate how well these videos are done. For me, i'm partial to the 0.1uF on this particular build, but the rest of the circuit is doing big favors to make both sound good. I think it depends on how you intend to run it. For the drop tuned stuff, I liked that extra edge given by the 0.022uFs. For standard tuning/half step down stuff 0.1uF, and for half step down and variac'd... probably 0.022uF. Cheers!
I prefer the tighter sound of the 0.022 ....also, if you are playing in a band/recording with a band, any mix engineer is going to hipass out that extra woof the 0.1 has so the guitar sits better with Kik/bass/keys. As u mentioned, this is pre-power amp so retaining that extra low end woof and sending it to the power section is gonna make the power section work harder at producing perhaps not really useful frequencies, therefore reducing headroom...as I am sure u know, amplifying low freqs requires way more energy than high freq. Again tho, every choice has a consequence that is open to interpretation based on personal preference. Nice work! 🤘👍
Great comparison Jason! Love that LP custom wow!! I prefer the 0.1uF but I suspect in a mix there wouldn’t really be much of a perceivable difference. Thanks for this! They had less of a difference than I was expecting!
Interesting! Slightly fuller and wider with the 0.1; and 0.022 tightened it up slightly and appeared to emphasize the mids just a bit more. This seems to be the same phenomenon as when putting a 330pF - 1nF over anode resistor in the preamp but from the other side of the spectrum. I'd go with the 0.1 if it doesn't make the amp prone to blocking distortion/farts.
If you check out the ‘slope’ control on the JCM800 Bass Series, it basically acts like a variable frequency high pass before the phase inverter. Lot of caps involved, but its cool.
For me personally the .022 hands down. The punch and bark is it. I tend to use hi output pickups and plenty of gain and have a heavy picking hand also. Having said that the .1 with the single coil all day long.
In my opinion the .022uF sounded "meatier" than the 0.1uF. My preference would be the .022uF ..... based on the recording anyway. Now, .... in person, ..... that could change.
Is the difference in caps the same as adjusting the bass knob? If so, Id like the leaner caps but if there is more happening to the amp y using a larger cap, Id like to know. And what about a .047 or .068?
Hey Jase mate, have you ever had a go on the DSL40CR? Would love to see/hear what you could do with one of those. I love your channel man, thanks for being so open and clear with the mods and also the theory behind it. So many guys just whack up a video of a mod and don't explain anything so it's very refreshing to see someone sharing their knowledge. Cheers from Auckland.
There’s a little more thickness when you’re riffing on the middle strings with the .1’s that’s noticeable on my iPhone. I like that. Doesn’t seem to add to much bass either. But I’m on an iPhone. I’ll try and listen on something better soon.
I have a 1987x reissue that I put those on a switch along with some other components. Basically I wanted to be able to have both the 1987 and 1986 circuits available. Have you considered doing that, putting the PI caps on a switch? Of course mine is a reissue so I has no problem deciding to drill holes in the chassis for the switches. But if you aren’t planning on using the tremolo circuit you could use one of those spots. Or even put it on a push/pull pot. Just an idea. By the tend to use the .022 when using the 1987 circuit. The 0.1 gets too muddy at times for the low tuning I’m using.
Great clip , personally I prefer the .1uf , I hear it as being wider / full in the spectrum obviously , didn't ED mismatch ( use both ) .1uf and .022uf at one point ???? that would be a interesting clip if you had the time.
The coupling caps made a noticeable difference and imo improvement, but I can’t tell any difference with the pi caps. I listened again after reading other comments, but I still don’t hear an appreciable change. I’m 63 so my hearing is not in its prime!
Very subtle differences but it appears the 0.1u caps allows more high-end through and the 22n caps are a bit more mid focused. In the bass territory which should really matter, very subtle differences.
Hi. I like them both. Even with the .1 the low end is tight enough. The difference is subtle but noticeable. The .1 sound fuller but the .022 makes the midrange can be more appreciated. If you are able to dial the amp with the .1 to sound more like the .022 if you wish, by lets say rolling back the bass knob a bit, then I would say that the .1 is a win win and I prefer it. If not I’m kind of even because both sound good. However I did like the strat neck more on the .022 but like said before if you roll off the bass a bit and can make it sound more like the .022 if you want to then… I guess that if you you choose the .1 you’ll have more options because you’ll be able to have tones not capable with the .022 and if you want to tighten the low end you can do it with a pedal on front. Anyways, very nice. Thanks.
Is this a proper way of adding bass back in if its removed in earlier stages? I would usually make up the low end with a fixed depth NFB circuit but is this another option?
With the LP and the Acca Dacca .022 all the way. Couldn’t tell with the first Strat. Also not as noticeable with the drop tuned Custom. Probably because that Tool song sounds Ok with a little looseness. The AC/DC though really shows the .022 keeping it a little snappier when moving those open chords around.
I was listening to the playthrough without looking at the caption whether its .1 or .022, i can really tell when its the .1uf. it becomes loose and a bit flubby. Maybe putting a 2.2nf in one(or two) of the coupling stages offset that .1uf in the PI
Hi, speaking of Axe-FX, when playing at home and when not having to put the sound out to the internet. you know? when you just want to crank it for yourself, when you're really getting into jamming at home but say like me, you got to keep it down for your Neighbor's. Do you think there's a Attenuator, like the Iron man II that might be more true to the original sound. Or do you think your AXE-FX does a better job reproducing it. or something like the AXE-FX maybe? because the last time I tried a attenuator, years ago, it waw the Marshall Power Brake and it changed the sound way too much for me.. And Like you, I'm an older dude and have been using vintage Marshalls Since the 1980's and still currently have 50w Plexi's I can't live without cranking... lol but I know i'm killing my Neighbor's lol Any suggestions on this would be much appreciated.. Thanks... for all... your video's by the way... you're awesome!!!
The only attenuators that work are full load and re-amp setups. Like the Powerstation, or use a Suhr reactive load and reamp back through monitors (with an IR) or a guitar cab.
The 0.1uf sounds fuller , fatter but, the 0.02uf might be better in a loud live setting . For studio I would go with the 0.1uf for stage maybe the 0.022uf .
I can tell you from experience that the .022uf/22nf caps sound very underwhelming for cleans/edge of breakup. The 0.1uf/100nf caps just sound better to me. Everyone I’ve built an amp for like the 0.1uf in the PI in lower gain amps, like a Plexi/JMP/Tweed Bassman. If it were a 2204 Lead JMP or JCM800 the .022’s win all day.
First off , your moving all around the neck ...And while playing different string, as you change cap values so it's impossible to judge accurately on something like this with it having only a minor sonic difference. Try playing exactly the same -simple- licks , and switch, and you be able to make a contrast judgement properly. ( our hearing perception is not computer based XD ) Secondly, if you use your plexi in settings where the bass pot is at less than 75-80%, you could simply dial in more bass with the bass pot, and achieve IMO a better overtone with the .o22, as it will be clearer and more balanced. "better mids" Just a bit. Small hairs splitting here. but really....Work on your tunes and licks, have more fun, and.... go outside! Bring in a different -experience- to your music and playing... and I'll be you won't worry about the small stuff so much. And there will end up being more variation and less monotony in all your expression. Hopefully that wasn't TMI cheers mister !
Well thanks. I don’t worry about the small stuff, however this is a amp build and mod channel and we drill into the small stuff in great detail. It’s the point of the channel.
I'll be the devil's advocate and say that his choice of songs and playing style perfectly demonstrated the difference, especially with the higher output Black Les Paul playing Tool riffs. You can clearly hear the difference and yet it is still over something rather subtle. There really is no other channel that explains this stuff in an easy, relatable way that other amp makers and engineers often miss the mark on. This really is a treasure cove of information from a super-sweet and eloquent presenter. That being said, I've mentioned before that he is somewhat hard to hear without a mic in front of him when he speaks, maybe invest in a boom mic or a clip-on mic
.o22 is better from an orchestration stand point because you arent a bass player, you don't need more bass, i heard more mid articulation without the bass eating up your speakers, try recording with a band and you will see, i thought the first les paul sounded best of all
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.1uf. It’s subtle but feels full and I don’t think it’s muddy at all. Feels like the .022 filters out some fullness that I actually like and prefer in the sound. Nice job on the comparison. Loved it.
It's incredibly useful to cut boomy, un-needed bass for increasingly distorted sounds but not at the expense of neutering the tone. The larger .1 are clearly beneficial in classic Marshall where you're not 'really' playing high gain and retain that fuller, pleasing tone. They add bass and bandwidth later in the circuit where it is typically considered good design to do so because they don't completely alter the 'perfect' core tone. Then again, the more gain you mod into it, the more bass you need to cut in order to keep it all tight.
Imho, placing a 470k resistor from bright channel pot wiper to ground is a better solution at tightening up un-needed boomy bass from your gain channel - especially if you plan on cascading!
@@eyedunno8462 In that case I would reduce bass early.on in the preamp circuit rather than in the power amp. Bass clipping gets flubby in the preamp anyway. The power amp is a matter of taste.
This was a tough choice. Each has its pros and cons. I’d go with the .1 though. The lows were looser, but the higher frequency harmonics caused by the lows added a fullness I really liked. The .1’s are the best overall choice.
The .022’s were also great, tightened the low end significantly. Also, there was a upper mid punch they added, which was not present with the .1’s. I’d lean towards the .022’s if the amp will mostly be played with lead tones.
agree with Andy! I’d lean towards the .022 also
They both sound good. Take your pick.
I'd probably just stay with the 0.1uF caps.
Thank you for taking all of us on this tone journey. Of course now I have a hankering for a 50 watt Super Lead amp. My two cents, like everyone else, yes, I hear a deeper/bassier tone with the .1 uf. And I also agree that the mids (where we are guitar players live) sounds better with the .022. Hopefully we either play live with other musicians or record music. The low end will end up getting cut off in a recording so it doesn't conflict with the kick or bass. In a live situation, the slight loss of the mids with that .1 uf will be lost. We want to be heard, we are guitarists. The "it sounds awesome in my home" tone, does not translate well to live settings. Go with the .22 and just turn up the bass when its just you. Maybe that was 5 cents. Thanks again for all of the education you are providing.
Thank you Scott, very thoughtful and astute comments. You are on spot on.
I want to say the the guitar all by itself may benefit from the fullness allotted by the .1uF but in the context of a band may have more focus with the .022uF caps, making room and not intruding on the bass guitar. I could imagine also, a recording engineer or live sound man high passing the guitar to make it more like the .022uF to help the guitar "fit" better into a band mix. Also, there could be incidents where one or the other works better in one room/venue or the other depending how the room exacerbates that frequency range or not. Very telling video this was, something many of us have wondered about but never had the A/B chance to hear it. Thank you!
I agree with this entirely also. The .022uF gets the amp to where it needs to be as a stage amp.
Hey Jason, I recently discovered your channel and these types of micro-comparisons are absolute gold to tone junkies like me! I was quite literally just contemplating this change today, as I have been experimenting with a home brew Marshall-style amp which is currently running .1 caps in the PI stage. I think I'll keep them! I prefer the tone of the .1's here. They just sound so thick and chewy.
Your channel has been super inspiring and my amp is sounding a heck of a lot better, thanks to you. Cheers for the awesome videos. You're a wealth of knowledge!
Hey, thanks! Welcome to the channel!
The .022 has the midrange bark that I look for in these amps. Definitely wins out for me. Very good comparison!
Thanks Richard!
As Jason said, I'm hearing a bit more fuill bandwidth with the .1uF but, the slight amount of loss in the very bottom of the guitar enables more detail in the mids and upper mids, a leaner, more detailed presentation with the .022uF. Whether that is coming from a true lift in the higher harmonics or the loss of low end no longer masking the detail of the higher mids, I can't be certain which one is happening but, I may prefer the greater detail that the .022uF enables just as a momentary preference in this video. However, that isn't to say that under a wider perception of the results that either one may benefit a certain style, or inter-song/mix part could be the case. The difference was a bit more subtle than I expected.
Agreed on the .1! I was surprised, expected to prefer the .022
super tough decision, but im leaning towards 0.1. thanks for the video!
incredible riff selections here 🔥
Thanks!
The larger .1uf are perfect as-is in classic Marshall circuits pre 1990. They keep the bandwidth fuller and don't alter the core tone being later in the circuit.
However later Marshalls (modded JCM800, 900SLX), amps that add more and more gain in the preamp the .1uf will start to show their limitations and this is where you'd seriously consider cutting some bass cut to keep everything tight, so the .022uf are the ticket.
Really begs the question: Why aren't .047uf or .068uf ever used? Seems like they'd be the "goldilocks' values in the hotrodded classic Marshall tone still so extremely popular these days
If I was going to play live with the band, the.022uf definitely! More mid focused and less stress on power tubes.
Very interesting listening to both side by side. Personal preference is the 0.022 as I like the more controlled bass response, especially with the overdriven tones. The high end dna high mods seem to come through with more clarity I think. My custom 69 has 0.022 in the PI position also - probably part of the reason I like that value 😊 bass I can always turn up if I want more width in the tone 😊 and there is always the option to add the EVH fat cap on a switch (I have a two position switch with two fat cap values) which adds in that extra low end response when I need it. Anyways, just my thoughts,. Have an awesome day Jason!
The difference is subtle but I prefer the .022 just because its a touch cleaner and tighter sounding and it's part of the classic lead spec.
Agree. .022 because is clear. And if want more bass, turn the bass or do with the mics position/mix (-dynamic +ribbon...)
The 0.10mfd give a rich tone allowing lower mids to soften and a fuller tone while the 0.022mfd are harsher hearing more mids and upper mids. I bridge in parallel 0.1 with 0.022 on the coupling caps on all my Marshalls. The Celestions do reproduce some deeper tones I do notice and like.
No recording with 1x 0.1uF and 1x 0.022uF :( ? Just kidding, this is already plenty scientific and I appreciate how well these videos are done. For me, i'm partial to the 0.1uF on this particular build, but the rest of the circuit is doing big favors to make both sound good. I think it depends on how you intend to run it. For the drop tuned stuff, I liked that extra edge given by the 0.022uFs. For standard tuning/half step down stuff 0.1uF, and for half step down and variac'd... probably 0.022uF. Cheers!
That amp sounded really good with that Les Paul Gold top
My 74 superlead I put .1 in as I felt it gave a subtle low end body.
With all my amp builds i use .1’s
What would it sound like with a 0.1 on one side and a .022 in the other for an asymmetrical feed to the PI? Has anyone tried this?
Interesting!
Chris you’re wild! Haha
I prefer the tighter sound of the 0.022 ....also, if you are playing in a band/recording with a band, any mix engineer is going to hipass out that extra woof the 0.1 has so the guitar sits better with Kik/bass/keys. As u mentioned, this is pre-power amp so retaining that extra low end woof and sending it to the power section is gonna make the power section work harder at producing perhaps not really useful frequencies, therefore reducing headroom...as I am sure u know, amplifying low freqs requires way more energy than high freq. Again tho, every choice has a consequence that is open to interpretation based on personal preference. Nice work! 🤘👍
I think you’ve summarised it spot on!!
Great comparison Jason! Love that LP custom wow!! I prefer the 0.1uF but I suspect in a mix there wouldn’t really be much of a perceivable difference. Thanks for this! They had less of a difference than I was expecting!
I bet you just liked the riff more than the LP Custom!
@@HeadfirstAmps hahaha. Guilty as charged lol.
Definitely getting some BLS vibes from the les paul custom with the standard/B hybrid tuning.
Interesting! Slightly fuller and wider with the 0.1; and 0.022 tightened it up slightly and appeared to emphasize the mids just a bit more. This seems to be the same phenomenon as when putting a 330pF - 1nF over anode resistor in the preamp but from the other side of the spectrum. I'd go with the 0.1 if it doesn't make the amp prone to blocking distortion/farts.
0.022uF's for me brotha ! Felt like a lost a tiny bit of that punchy chunk anytime I tried the 0.1's.
If you check out the ‘slope’ control on the JCM800 Bass Series, it basically acts like a variable frequency high pass before the phase inverter. Lot of caps involved, but its cool.
For me personally the .022 hands down. The punch and bark is it. I tend to use hi output pickups and plenty of gain and have a heavy picking hand also. Having said that the .1 with the single coil all day long.
Great comparison! I'd stick with the 0.1uf and just turn the bass knob down or use a tubescreamer in front to tighten up as needed.
In my opinion the .022uF sounded "meatier" than the 0.1uF. My preference would be the .022uF ..... based on the recording anyway. Now, .... in person, ..... that could change.
Is the difference in caps the same as adjusting the bass knob? If so, Id like the leaner caps but if there is more happening to the amp y using a larger cap, Id like to know.
And what about a .047 or .068?
Hey Jase mate, have you ever had a go on the DSL40CR? Would love to see/hear what you could do with one of those.
I love your channel man, thanks for being so open and clear with the mods and also the theory behind it. So many guys just whack up a video of a mod and don't explain anything so it's very refreshing to see someone sharing their knowledge. Cheers from Auckland.
Chur
There’s a little more thickness when you’re riffing on the middle strings with the .1’s that’s noticeable on my iPhone. I like that. Doesn’t seem to add to much bass either. But I’m on an iPhone. I’ll try and listen on something better soon.
0.1uf definitely sounds the best.
I have a 1987x reissue that I put those on a switch along with some other components. Basically I wanted to be able to have both the 1987 and 1986 circuits available. Have you considered doing that, putting the PI caps on a switch? Of course mine is a reissue so I has no problem deciding to drill holes in the chassis for the switches. But if you aren’t planning on using the tremolo circuit you could use one of those spots. Or even put it on a push/pull pot. Just an idea. By the tend to use the .022 when using the 1987 circuit. The 0.1 gets too muddy at times for the low tuning I’m using.
expected to prefer 0.022 but 0.1uF seems to have a bit more personality to it without ever being too much. 0.022 does the job but feels a little plain
Yeah I expected to like 0.022 more but preferred 0.1!
Great clip , personally I prefer the .1uf , I hear it as being wider / full in the spectrum obviously , didn't ED mismatch ( use both ) .1uf and .022uf at one point ???? that would be a interesting clip if you had the time.
The coupling caps made a noticeable difference and imo improvement, but I can’t tell any difference with the pi caps. I listened again after reading other comments, but I still don’t hear an appreciable change. I’m 63 so my hearing is not in its prime!
Very subtle differences but it appears the 0.1u caps allows more high-end through and the 22n caps are a bit more mid focused.
In the bass territory which should really matter, very subtle differences.
Hi. I like them both. Even with the .1 the low end is tight enough. The difference is subtle but noticeable. The .1 sound fuller but the .022 makes the midrange can be more appreciated. If you are able to dial the amp with the .1 to sound more like the .022 if you wish, by lets say rolling back the bass knob a bit, then I would say that the .1 is a win win and I prefer it. If not I’m kind of even because both sound good. However I did like the strat neck more on the .022 but like said before if you roll off the bass a bit and can make it sound more like the .022 if you want to then… I guess that if you you choose the .1 you’ll have more options because you’ll be able to have tones not capable with the .022 and if you want to tighten the low end you can do it with a pedal on front. Anyways, very nice. Thanks.
For my taste I would go .1 seems to add just a hair more grit compared to the .022
Is this a proper way of adding bass back in if its removed in earlier stages? I would usually make up the low end with a fixed depth NFB circuit but is this another option?
Wouldn't kick either out of bed, Jase. 0.022 is a bit tighter on the bassy stuff, but doesn't matter that much away from the bottom.
Haha, indeed. It’s a 50/50 call according to the comments.
With the LP and the Acca Dacca .022 all the way. Couldn’t tell with the first Strat. Also not as noticeable with the drop tuned Custom. Probably because that Tool song sounds Ok with a little looseness. The AC/DC though really shows the .022 keeping it a little snappier when moving those open chords around.
.022 just a little more clarity I think.
The low end was certainly cleaner with .022, but.... I like the .1 too. Quicker attack with the .022's sounded better for the ACCA DaCCA
I think the results are 50/50 so far Chris!
I was listening to the playthrough without looking at the caption whether its .1 or .022, i can really tell when its the .1uf. it becomes loose and a bit flubby.
Maybe putting a 2.2nf in one(or two) of the coupling stages offset that .1uf in the PI
Or a value in between such as .047 or .068
Also, can you do this with one .1uf and one .022uf?
The 0.022 for sure... For me...Unless you had to play it into a 1X12 cab. I like getting the low end from bigger cabs
0.1 for sure!
I like the .1's in mine. (50w).
Hi, speaking of Axe-FX, when playing at home and when not having to put the sound out to the internet. you know? when you just want to crank it for yourself, when you're really getting into jamming at home but say like me, you got to keep it down for your Neighbor's. Do you think there's a Attenuator, like the Iron man II that might be more true to the original sound. Or do you think your AXE-FX does a better job reproducing it. or something like the AXE-FX maybe? because the last time I tried a attenuator, years ago, it waw the Marshall Power Brake and it changed the sound way too much for me.. And Like you, I'm an older dude and have been using vintage Marshalls Since the 1980's and still currently have 50w Plexi's I can't live without cranking... lol but I know i'm killing my Neighbor's lol Any suggestions on this would be much appreciated.. Thanks... for all... your video's by the way... you're awesome!!!
The only attenuators that work are full load and re-amp setups. Like the Powerstation, or use a Suhr reactive load and reamp back through monitors (with an IR) or a guitar cab.
@@HeadfirstAmps Big Thanks...
.1 for me…it just sounded fuller and bigger to me..
Like the .022. For VH like .1 for AcDC
prefer .022
The 0.1uf sounds fuller , fatter but, the 0.02uf might be better in a loud live setting . For studio I would go with the 0.1uf for stage maybe the 0.022uf .
I agree!
Goldilocks value: 0.047 ;-)
0.1uf for me all day long. To my ears it cuts that ultra high fizz.
I like .047 😉
Yeah, nice middle ground isn’t it
@@HeadfirstAmps it certainly is. 🙂
if to change all the 0.022 to 0.1, you can play sludge on this amplifier)
Maybe 100nF in series with another 100nF but this time paralel with 100k.
I like the.1 better
.022 for me
0.022 for me
I can tell you from experience that the .022uf/22nf caps sound very underwhelming for cleans/edge of breakup. The 0.1uf/100nf caps just sound better to me.
Everyone I’ve built an amp for like the 0.1uf in the PI in lower gain amps, like a Plexi/JMP/Tweed Bassman. If it were a 2204 Lead JMP or JCM800 the .022’s win all day.
.1's, the .022s are too thin for this amp.
i'd go with the .1's more true to this era amp
If you want the amp to be a nice amp: .1, if you want it to be a mean amp: .022 >:]
0.1uF in my opinion
First off , your moving all around the neck ...And while playing different string, as you change cap values so it's impossible to judge accurately on something like this with it having only a minor sonic difference. Try playing exactly the same -simple- licks , and switch, and you be able to make a contrast judgement properly. ( our hearing perception is not computer based XD ) Secondly, if you use your plexi in settings where the bass pot is at less than 75-80%, you could simply dial in more bass with the bass pot, and achieve IMO a better overtone with the .o22, as it will be clearer and more balanced. "better mids" Just a bit. Small hairs splitting here.
but really....Work on your tunes and licks, have more fun, and.... go outside! Bring in a different -experience- to your music and playing... and I'll be you won't worry about the small stuff so much. And there will end up being more variation and less monotony in all your expression. Hopefully that wasn't TMI cheers mister !
Well thanks. I don’t worry about the small stuff, however this is a amp build and mod channel and we drill into the small stuff in great detail. It’s the point of the channel.
I'll be the devil's advocate and say that his choice of songs and playing style perfectly demonstrated the difference, especially with the higher output Black Les Paul playing Tool riffs. You can clearly hear the difference and yet it is still over something rather subtle.
There really is no other channel that explains this stuff in an easy, relatable way that other amp makers and engineers often miss the mark on. This really is a treasure cove of information from a super-sweet and eloquent presenter.
That being said, I've mentioned before that he is somewhat hard to hear without a mic in front of him when he speaks, maybe invest in a boom mic or a clip-on mic
.o22 is better from an orchestration stand point because you arent a bass player, you don't need more bass, i heard more mid articulation without the bass eating up your speakers, try recording with a band and you will see, i thought the first les paul sounded best of all