The easiest way to tell craftable weapons is they drop automatically tracking kills. Non-craftable you can turn kill-trackers off. Craftable will always track, so they’ll only have two tracker options as opposed to three.
Also make sure to equip any crafted weapons you want to level before opening the terminal overload chests. You can pick up 1-2 levels every time you open the chests, especially if you triple dip the free chest.
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
@@justsomeguy2142 you’re aware that the same guy told everyone one way to farm them and is now telling everyone they’re doing it wrong? Lol so now who’s gobbling?
My technique is to fast travel to the terminal overload, look around, if I dont see a heroic patrol, I teleport to the bottom of the map. If I dont see one there, I hop back to the terminal overload area again to check out the reset patrols for the heroic. Back and forth, until I find one.
pro tip for returning players that did not play during Witch Queen, if you did not do the first mission of the WQ campaign to unlock the craft table the Lightfall campaign will not reward red boarder weapons. :( so do that first story quest before starting lightfall. also if you are doing the sparrow away and back for 3 chests, each chest rewards weapon xp progress on crafted weps so make sure to equip them if you have some you are trying to level up before opening these chests.
Are you series? Damnit, I just screwed myself. I completed the campgain on my two other characters without doing that mission first. Damnit! I screwed up something else too because I am only getting armor drops from heroic patrols on my titan and hunter. Looks like I missed out on two guarnteed red border spirals. I'm so pissed.
I think the easiest way to get heroic patrols (and even terminal overloads that are on step 2 or 3) is to keep fast traveling to Liming Harbor or keep queueing into Terminal Overload until one pops up. It doesn't take long and you also have a chance of finding a Terminal Overload that is more than half done, making that farm pretty quick.
Close to Melee on Judgement of Kelgorath works with Winter's Bite for some reason. Just proc it on Kelgorath, switch to Winter's, and your super strong glaive is now even stronger
You can just keep reloading where terminal over load is and you’ll spawn in a heroic patrol. That’s how I’ve been grinding them for 2 days now and I’ve already crafted everything but the hand cannon. Seems the hand cannon odds are really low since I haven’t gotten 1 red border that isn’t from the campaign
@@asianpersuasian113 just click on the terminal public event and it refreshes the area and you keep doing it till you get a heroic public event. Usually just takes like 3-4 refreshes but sometimes it’ll take a few more
@@djcj5390 I got it from that quest twice on hunter and warlock but still never drops red borders for it. I only ever get the fusion or grenade launcher
Most of these streamers are dumb af, don't know shit. Sure af don't know anything about firearms calling magazines, clips and shit. Must be nice to have a bunch of people watch you play video games and not have a real job though.
I think it’s dumb that they only made *some* of the neomuna weapons craftable. Especially with this being the first time they’ve decided to do this, when it would’ve been the perfect time NOT to do this considering a craftable strand smg to synergize with strand would be much appreciated
I am loving Envious Assassin, and got it with Cascade Point on Synchronic Roulette. It's awesome! Especially if you end up mostly using your Special weapon. (SMGs are Overload this season!)
While I'm not sure if this is truly a bug or a design decision, High Value Target chests don't give weapon drops like how the Lucent Hive ones do in The Witch Queen. Either way, I'd suggest looking at patch notes to see if there was a bug that was fixed or just play-test it every so often to see if anything's changed, but do the Heroic Patrol method until then.
I messed up🙈 Last week, I had a red-border, double perk craft-able Hollow Denial (void legendary trace rifle). I had 4 deepsights already extracted. This final roll was my 5 of 5… all I had to do was dismantle it to craft a new one. THIS WEEK: the red border on my trace rifle was removed and I’m no longer able to extract the deep-sight to craft it. So now all my potential volatile round fun with this weapon is suddenly capped. I can no longer craft an Enhanced Wellspring roll to compensate for the huge nerf to ability recharge rate. Last week, I knew to “use up crafting materials” but I had no idea they were gonna remove the red border from my CRAFTABLE weapons. But I’m probably the only one😪
Don't dismantle that weapon. It happend to a clanmate too, just with raid weapons with red boarders. He said after he logged in, the next day they had red boarders again, so he could progress the patterns. (Sorry for my bad english ^^;)
Since the drop changes, I can't even get the neomuna weapons let alone a deepsight. Been grinding for 14 hours straight, did about 60 gold patrols and got 4 neomuna weapons. Heroic patrols can drop world drops for some god forbidden reason, so it might be genuinely impossible. Been doing the Psion's rod thing, the high values, public events and even the normal chests. And yes, I've done the from zero to hero quest chains, BluJay, and even the winterbite quests. This is fucking absurd. Thank you bungie, very cool.
Got my neomuna patterns 2 days ago. Fastest way? Que into Terminal Zone, if there is no heroic patrol que in again. Do it over and over until you see a patrol, honestly the fastest way of getting one to spawn. Then just finish it and repeat the process.
the hand cannon and fusion are also garenteed red boarders when you cmplete thje accossiated quests so its good to do the quests from zero and to hero as doing them on all 3 characters will also get you 3 red border handcannons and fusions like the campain does
What my fireteam did was load into the Terminal Overload area separately to catch one of two things: 3 out 3 Overload, or a heroic patrol. Worked out really well for both rep farm and red boarder hunting. We would leave the fireteam and load into the public event space individually to up our chances of getting one or the other, sometimes both. We did get quite a few red boarders, as well as weapons from the other Overload areas from the baby chest.
There is a small part of me that's annoyed that FP made that video telling people to do that, because now everyone is hunting for Terminal Overload events that are almost done, and no-one is starting them.
@@DJLite4011 Agreed. Bungie should remove a commendation from players every time they load into a terminal overload event and don't actually participate in it...
@@DJLite4011 The problem is obviously not when they participate, it's when they DON'T. So if someone just reload if the event is at Stage 1 or 2, add a penalty. You actively load into a terminal overload event, it's not a stretch to expect the player to play it.
I have found that loading terminal overload from the map (only available after the campaign I believe) can cause a heroic patrol to Spawn. Similar to needing to do 3-6 regular to cause it to Spawn, roughly loading 3-6 times you might see a heroic Spawn. You can farm both terminal overload and heroic patrol at the same time.
You can triple dip on ANY sparrow. Also you can actually quadruple dip, if you have either one of two things a friend in the same instance. Then you just leave the area and then fast travel to the chest area and you can grab it a 4th time IF you’re fast enough. Or you can try your luck and just travel back to the area and hope it’s the same! Hope this helps. I’ve quadruple dipped a good amount I was able to get a nimbus rank per run this way. Hope this helps!
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere but be sure to have crafted weapons equipped when double dipping the chest. I'm getting a rank up on them every 3/4 times
Sad to report the heroic patrols no longer drop a weapon every time this season. I didn't get the hand cannon in time and the 3 I've done 1 was a weapon, 2 were armor.
@@huh7111 There's really no farm now, just doing the weekly quests, you can still get red borders from the heroics, they're just not guaranteed to be a weapon (not necessarily red border) now with armor dropping from those quests as well. And while its rare and the video mentions they never saw it in their playtime I got about 3 or 4 of my red border items from reputation rewards with Nimbus. I'm also at level 75 or so with them so that tells you it's pretty rare to get them that way. :/
They said that there'd be less crafting because they agreed with the complaints that crafting took away rng excitement however they said all neomuna weapons would be available but changed it later likely indicating a possible last minute decision
@@retrosaur_ Envious assassin is great but IMO the mvp perk in that column is pulse monitor. Don't know if you've noticed but in this current sandbox, you get hit and hit hard very often compared to previous seasons and pulse monitor just procs all the time. Would if have been better if we get more meta rolls like subsistence or feeding frenzy? Absolutely. But those 2 perks ain't half bad. It's also plenty good in pvp with max range, keep away and kill clip.
@@wintereclipse3263 "RNG excitement" smh... people really be masochistic. Hell, with those red border HC drop rates, nothing changes. You're still doing the same mindlessly easy activity on repeat for 20+ without even a guarantee that you'll ever get one. I don't get why people with gambling problems keep asking for our loot games to keep getting worse.
You don't need Always on Time to get 3 chests total, though it's nice to have and gives you more room to breathe when going back and forth between load zones to grab the chest.
Forgot to comment this the first time I saw it pop up. It's much more efficient to wait until overload isn't in liming harbor. This gives you 2 fast travel options eliminating the need to farm patrols. I get them consistently off the bat just fast traveling between the 2 to enter different lobbies and increase the probability of a gold patrol. Hope this helps anyone still struggling. You can still do this this with overload in the harbor, but fast traveling to the same location repeatedly sometimes re-enters the same lobby. Cheers.
Btw a quick farm for the heroic patrols if you complete one in the around u spawn in, go to ur director, select terminal overload and it will spawn u into a new server and do that over and over again, a cheese way to do it
so i have pulse, fusion, and GL done. Im 1 away from HC and Sniper and ive been spawning and refreshing the terminal zone ONLY bc its populated so most people do patrols in the area and one will spawn. Its more populated so more of a chance. If i want to spawn one myself I have found that doing around 5-7 patrols will spawn one in some cases 2 (very rarely) but Ahisma Park is a a small area with a cluster of kill/ghost scan patrols that are easy! by doing this I should have all guns crafted by tonight. Having people in a discord call/ channel also helps bc someone will usually find one and you can join do it and dip and repeat. OR just farm patrols which go by so fast. Glad to see you brought this up to the peeps!
I’ve not wanted a hand cannon in awhile, like really desired it, but this season has two that I desperately want. I want the Robin! And the Fusion Rifle. Tracer rockets are a lot of fun, if hard to notice.
We just had 3 of us each loading into the Terminal Overload individually until one of us either got a heroic patrol or a stage 3 of 3 overload event and then we would just join the person who got either to pop. Super efficient
Did anyone notice the shotgun Imperial Decree from Season of Opulence is shown to be craftable but isn’t found anywhere in the collections or database? I thought this was kinda odd.
It is craftable... you gotta go to the war table and you can buy some with 2 defiance engrams ... I got 3 red borders so far but on light gg it's the rolls aren't shown
@@xEnder789x ah, thanks. I haven’t spent any war table engrams yet. Still, it’s weird that it isn’t in the database so I can’t see what the possible rolls are.
Yes it is craftable cuz I got red border my first time I focused a engram. And I’ve done 30 engrams since with at least 10 more imperial decrees with not a single red border since the first
i like how farming on neomuna overlaps. doing patrols, opening random chests, chasing high-value targets, playing within the vez incursion zone, and doing public events all help you with numerous things
Except red border HCs, because those are a hoax. They don't exist. They're lies. Stop telling me they exist, i'm 30h into my grind and dropped exactly 0. I have all other weapons pretty much done, but those ? Nah.
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
Best way to get heroic patrols to spawn is load into a terminal overload, as this takes you to orbit, which is much faster than going to orbit the manuel way, then pull up your ghost to see if any pop up. If there are non then fast travel to liming harbor and pull up your ghost to check. If none reload into terminal overload to reset the instance and you will get it to spawn so fast!
@@v-7815 jokes on them i got all the godrolls first day i cheesed it lmao. Now to finish the quest on my hunter and do the campaign on titan for strand and I'll prolly have everything ready to craft.
@@fotis3v480 Jokes on you for cheesing stuff, now you have less to do and you'll be on of those people on reddit that complain "there's nothing do to" within 1-2 weeks..
It's really lame that they didn't make all of the location weapons craftable like the Throne World weapons. Oh well, guess that means we just have to abuse the chest farm till it's patched
Current method to farm legendary patrols for my team is to all split up and que for the terminal overload activity. Check your ghost if one spawns have all your teammates join, complete and repeat! I already have the grenade launcher crafted and I just need to get 1-2 more red borders for each.
YOU WERE THE ONE WHO SAID TERMINAL DROPS RED BORDERS....in your double dipping video you said "get those red border" this is dropping red borders or something to that affect. But thank you much for this explaination video. way more clear.
I honestly like this me and my buddy figured this out I would just work on the terminal overload while he would grab patrols and we would just keep rotating and just doing non stop patrols while doing terminal and holy crap was it a great way to farm
Before you make a full video on it and make all the programmers in your audience twitch, Iterative Loop isn’t “iter-ative”. It comes from the word iterate and so is pronounced “it-er-a-tiv”
FINALLY the video that explains it right…mostly. Hands down, fastest way is with 3 people. Load in separately, pop your ghost, you’ll see every patrol on the map and notice what tier the Terminal is. Whomever has the heroic bounty or tier 3, join them. If you really want to be a sweat, party leader can boot instead of have people return to orbit. Rinse and repeat. The precision kill bounty can be completed with everybody getting rewards as they fly in. You can pick up the bounty, complete it, and boot your buddies before they land for full rewards. With zero red borders on my last 15+ heroic bounties, I’m down 3. A couple buddies are done. Overall, great video. The misinformation out there has been laughable. Way to straighten things out Cross and team!
This all only matters IF you have access to craftable weapons. If you havent unlocked them, no red borderbweapons will appear. Learned this the hard way as a new player.
Queue into TO mission. Look for Heroic Patrol. If it is there, do it. If it isn’t, fast travel to LH zone. Look for Heroic Patrol. If it’s there, do it. If it isn’t, queue into TO. Rinse, repeat. I’ve done several like this. Drop rate is 10-20 percent (guessing).
For heroic Patrols, I just load up the Terminal Overload, if I don't see one, I waypoint to Liming Harbor, if none, then sparrow to the next zone, where the events aren't active, rinse and repeat. I get a pretty good amount of Heroic Patrols this way
People complain about the craftable weapon grind and then do this shit… like man just play the game and have fun DO NOT do this, u will get what you need eventually and who knows, bungie might even make it easier for you just like the end of last season. Everyone else was burning out and complaining about the red boarder grind and all i had to do was get on the game each day, buy an engram, and get off or do something else
Today is one of best days for heroic patrols. Fast travel between the ahimsa park terminal overload spawn and lining harbor under it. Patrols respawn and heroics usually happen within 5 or so fast travels. Takes less than a minute
I finally did the heroic patrols todayb and having gone in with two weapons already being craftable, it took me a whole 12 hours of a single sitting to get the other three craftable.
I spent HOURS farming TOs and Gold Patrols from red borders of the fusion rifle, I had NO idea I needed to unlock the weapon first :( Now I will make sure I finish those quests lol
I am having so much fun with this expansion. I know it's subjective but I have no clue why everyone is being negative about this game it's no where near as bad as people are saying. I've seen nothing but skewed judgement and highly subjective gripes that have no merit whatsoever. Anyway thanks for the guide as always and keep up the good work!!
I load into Terminal Overload, and check for Heroic Patrols. If there are none, I just sparrow into the next patrol zone. If none are there I move onto the next. I've had Heroic Patrols show up back-to-back-to-back numerous times just leaving the Terminal Overload area.
You can run the From Hero and To Zero on each of your characters for 3 easy red borders. Plus the quests on your 2nd and 3rd characters are shorter and easier. After that, all you need is 2 red borders.
I also played only my warlock for much of the season, and tried farming a ridiculous number of heroic patrols. I could only get 3 max of all craftable guns (1 from campaign + 2 heroic drops), but never anymore. To get the full 5, I had to do campaign on other characters.
I’m gonna go with no matter what you do, a red border will drop maybe one out of 50 times. People last season were complaining about the lack of red borders, literally last year it was raining red borders compared to what we get this season.
Load into Terminal Overload and check for Gold Patrol, if you don't find it, check the other two zones before loading back into Terminal Overload. If you have a fireteam of two, one can go left the other right and usualy be able to check the other two zones in 15 seconds or less, which, on console is faster than just realoading into Terminal Overload again and again.
I way we found to generate heroic patrols is to just load into a terminal overload, check the area with you loud ghost out to see if there is a heroic patrol, if there isn’t just load into it again until you get one.
Imma be honest, Nimbus has been great for getting deepsight for me. I'm rank 39 with him and about half of my drops after rank 30 have been deepsight. So far I can craft the hand cannon and the fusion and i only need one more deepsight for the other 3
i have done over 90 golden patrols and have got 1 redboarder pullsrifle and 5 Heavy grenade louncher and im farming the pullsrifle -_-. Tipp: get in a fireteam of 2 and spawn at the terminal overload spawnpoint and check for golden patrols if there are none in the spawn area drive to the other 2 areas and look for them. if there are none spawn again at the terminal overload spawnpoint and do it again
I've been farming it for 4 hours and got onle 1 deepsight weapon. And every time I complete a heroic patrol I get anything except neomuna weapons(well, I do but very seldom)
So cross I got atleast 2-3 deepsights from terminal overload, not the key chest but as either random drops or the free chest. The gold patrols are def the best method though.
Right this isn't anything to do with this video but for the people trying to farm deepsight weapons in neomuna I've found that it's better to open your map up and select the terminal overload instead of keep spawning in at liming harbor because this way the herioc patrols have a better spawn chance. I hope this helps
You can load into a thermal overload zone and pull ur ghost out and check then get on you sparrow and travel to the new load zone pull ur ghost out and look.if nothing pops up reload into another thermal overload. You can't fast travel. You must load into another thermal overload. Via on map icon.
Some corrections about the patrols and they best way to farm heroic, they seem like they appear after doing some because the patrols naturally refresh and have a chance of spawning them, absolutely no correlation, 100% rng. The best way to farm heroic patrols is to constantly queue into the terminal overload while still on planet, you don't need to go back to orbit, it will always load you into a new instance. Finished 3 weapons in just over an hour
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
Honestly i have just been loading into a terminal overload session, if it's not started i just whip out my ghost and look for the heroic patrol. If it doesn't spawn at the area the TO is at i just go on a sparrow and move to other patrol areas. Usually there are ATLEAST two heroic patrols on the same session. Pretty efficient. Already got my HGL crafted.
Terminal overloads were initially stated to drop deepsights. Bungie forgot. Then they edited the twab saying you could get red borders form overload yesterday
One way that has worked for me is to do 2 or 3 of the scan patrols in one area, then travel to different areas without going to orbit. Si far, it has given me about 3 consecutive exotic patrols this way.
i found a new method to farm the deepsights. you just launch the terminal overload to spawn there then if there isn't a heroic patrol there then fast travel to liming harbor. rinse and repeat until a heroic patrol spawns in for you, and you can do it solo with this method.
I wasn’t impressed by the fusions at first but then I realized u can get volt shot on the arc fusion. Imagine accelerated plus charge time or reload masterwork u could spam and reload for voltshot crazy fast
Fastest way to get heroic patrols to spawn is to go into the Terminal Overload, open your ghost, check to see if there are any, and if not, reload into a new terminal overload. Fallout made a video on it
Hi Cross! I think it's not "Lime-ing" Harbor but "Lee-ming". I can see the Chinese tonal mark on the letter "I", which sounds like "dawn" in Chinese. "Harbor of Dawn" does make sense in the context. BTW I always thought your ID is Aztec Ross, but apparently, everyone calls you Cross. I guess I do what the Romans do lol
You can also get the uncraftable Neomuna weapons from the other chest too. That one is random. I've gotten the shot gun while doing the machine gun run. I also got double smgs and that's how I got my God roll!
You can fly/spawn for the Terminal overload mission everytime and check all areas for the Legendary Patrol. If you don´t find any go to the map and select it again. It´s takes a little bit because you need to fly there every time. But the Patrols are reseting this way
best way is to get on coms with a fireteam, but solo in game, everyone continuously loads into terminal overload and looks for heroic events, if there arent any, reload terminal overload, if there is one, then everyone joins that one person, finish the patrol then break up and repeat.
Ive found that the best way to get heroic patrols to spawn is by going to the neomuna map and travelling to the terminal overload zone as it works like returning to orbit and loads you into a different thing instead of staying in the same thingy your in (idk how to describe this thingy) but if it doesn’t spawn just rinse and repeat, happy farming everyone Edit: i got this info from falloutplays, he explains it better so go watch his video if you want
@Death with benefits I went back to orbit 15 times after running one and no patrol appeared. Maybe I just had INCREDIBLY bad RNG? Compared to last night which was every other run.
Cormorant was hitting for 8.6 k a bullet in the new strike . Aw yeah. I ve ran all the Titan types and one thing is certain , they all kick ass . Might die or get bounced once in a while but it’s way fun .
The easiest way to tell craftable weapons is they drop automatically tracking kills. Non-craftable you can turn kill-trackers off. Craftable will always track, so they’ll only have two tracker options as opposed to three.
Or you could simply go to triumphs and look at patterns
@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 Thats arguably more work
@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 you look at a weapon and see how many trackers it has in roughly 1/10 of a second, so that’s the easiest way.
@@KitchenerLeslie2 that’s no longer accurate after lightfall as far as i can tell.
the terminal overload weapons have trackers automatically on also so this doesnt work
Also make sure to equip any crafted weapons you want to level before opening the terminal overload chests. You can pick up 1-2 levels every time you open the chests, especially if you triple dip the free chest.
Thanks bro that's a great tip!!!!
A sincere Thank You to Cross and his team for always giving 120% every yearly Destiny expansion with all the guides and info.
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
I mean, it’s their job, they make a LOT of money off the videos. Still good to have.
@@alexschittenden beta justification, if you have a job do it right….kindly stop gobbling
And yet he said hypotrochoid without hesitation. 🤔
@@justsomeguy2142 you’re aware that the same guy told everyone one way to farm them and is now telling everyone they’re doing it wrong? Lol so now who’s gobbling?
My technique is to fast travel to the terminal overload, look around, if I dont see a heroic patrol, I teleport to the bottom of the map. If I dont see one there, I hop back to the terminal overload area again to check out the reset patrols for the heroic. Back and forth, until I find one.
The fact that Cross can pronounce “Hypotrochoid” satisfyingly but butcher “iterative” simply confuses me
I didn't notice until I read the comments, nailed the rest lol
pro tip for returning players that did not play during Witch Queen, if you did not do the first mission of the WQ campaign to unlock the craft table the Lightfall campaign will not reward red boarder weapons. :( so do that first story quest before starting lightfall. also if you are doing the sparrow away and back for 3 chests, each chest rewards weapon xp progress on crafted weps so make sure to equip them if you have some you are trying to level up before opening these chests.
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Are you series? Damnit, I just screwed myself. I completed the campgain on my two other characters without doing that mission first. Damnit! I screwed up something else too because I am only getting armor drops from heroic patrols on my titan and hunter. Looks like I missed out on two guarnteed red border spirals. I'm so pissed.
I think the easiest way to get heroic patrols (and even terminal overloads that are on step 2 or 3) is to keep fast traveling to Liming Harbor or keep queueing into Terminal Overload until one pops up. It doesn't take long and you also have a chance of finding a Terminal Overload that is more than half done, making that farm pretty quick.
Close to Melee on Judgement of Kelgorath works with Winter's Bite for some reason. Just proc it on Kelgorath, switch to Winter's, and your super strong glaive is now even stronger
uh oh.. UH OH.. Double dipping glaives in master when it drops. Give me that orb heals, sunspots, syntho & Close to melee.
was there a damage difference? it may just be a visual bug
@@bilbo9730 no it actually works
You can just keep reloading where terminal over load is and you’ll spawn in a heroic patrol. That’s how I’ve been grinding them for 2 days now and I’ve already crafted everything but the hand cannon. Seems the hand cannon odds are really low since I haven’t gotten 1 red border that isn’t from the campaign
Drops from Zero to Hero mission
do you relaunch the terminal overload activity or just leave the area and come back
@@asianpersuasian113 just click on the terminal public event and it refreshes the area and you keep doing it till you get a heroic public event. Usually just takes like 3-4 refreshes but sometimes it’ll take a few more
@@djcj5390 I got it from that quest twice on hunter and warlock but still never drops red borders for it. I only ever get the fusion or grenade launcher
That’s funny because I only get deepsight handcannons
the way he said iterative almost made me unsubscribe
Bru what why
Lmao, agreed
Most of these streamers are dumb af, don't know shit. Sure af don't know anything about firearms calling magazines, clips and shit. Must be nice to have a bunch of people watch you play video games and not have a real job though.
I guess he’s wrong for wanting to help the peasants get their gear
@@Death-fw6co He is wrong in his pronunciation of iterative and someone poked fun at him. What the heck are you talking about?
I think it’s dumb that they only made *some* of the neomuna weapons craftable. Especially with this being the first time they’ve decided to do this, when it would’ve been the perfect time NOT to do this considering a craftable strand smg to synergize with strand would be much appreciated
It's not that crazy, the ones you can get from a very specific source aren't craftable
It'd be like if the wellspring weapons weren't craftable
the trials Strand smg is a better option.
Bungie changed the TWAB to say the Terminal weapons aren’t craftable, even though they originally said that all Neomuna weapons would be
Another bot/agent account
@@theoneand0nly874 huh?
I am loving Envious Assassin, and got it with Cascade Point on Synchronic Roulette. It's awesome! Especially if you end up mostly using your Special weapon. (SMGs are Overload this season!)
Yeah got the same roll and loving it. Shame it's not craftable for the enhanced perks but it's fine. I'm aiming for the Fusion and the GL now
Smgs are always overload
@@ZhaloSupercell1 sometimes they're anti barrier
While I'm not sure if this is truly a bug or a design decision, High Value Target chests don't give weapon drops like how the Lucent Hive ones do in The Witch Queen. Either way, I'd suggest looking at patch notes to see if there was a bug that was fixed or just play-test it every so often to see if anything's changed, but do the Heroic Patrol method until then.
i really do hope they added the whole "leave patrol area to get the chest over and over" as a throw back to the skeleton key chests in D1
I messed up🙈
Last week, I had a red-border, double perk craft-able Hollow Denial (void legendary trace rifle). I had 4 deepsights already extracted. This final roll was my 5 of 5… all I had to do was dismantle it to craft a new one.
THIS WEEK: the red border on my trace rifle was removed and I’m no longer able to extract the deep-sight to craft it. So now all my potential volatile round fun with this weapon is suddenly capped. I can no longer craft an Enhanced Wellspring roll to compensate for the huge nerf to ability recharge rate. Last week, I knew to “use up crafting materials” but I had no idea they were gonna remove the red border from my CRAFTABLE weapons. But I’m probably the only one😪
Don't dismantle that weapon. It happend to a clanmate too, just with raid weapons with red boarders. He said after he logged in, the next day they had red boarders again, so he could progress the patterns. (Sorry for my bad english ^^;)
The way cross pronounced “iterative” needs to go down in the hall of fame along with epitaph, Ahamkara, and Galliard.
Since the drop changes, I can't even get the neomuna weapons let alone a deepsight. Been grinding for 14 hours straight, did about 60 gold patrols and got 4 neomuna weapons. Heroic patrols can drop world drops for some god forbidden reason, so it might be genuinely impossible. Been doing the Psion's rod thing, the high values, public events and even the normal chests. And yes, I've done the from zero to hero quest chains, BluJay, and even the winterbite quests. This is fucking absurd. Thank you bungie, very cool.
Update, after 31 hours of bon stop grinding I got 1 redborder for the handcanon. It was the last one I needed :) Still fuck the drop change tho
Got my neomuna patterns 2 days ago. Fastest way?
Que into Terminal Zone, if there is no heroic patrol que in again. Do it over and over until you see a patrol, honestly the fastest way of getting one to spawn. Then just finish it and repeat the process.
the hand cannon and fusion are also garenteed red boarders when you cmplete thje accossiated quests so its good to do the quests from zero and to hero as doing them on all 3 characters will also get you 3 red border handcannons and fusions like the campain does
What my fireteam did was load into the Terminal Overload area separately to catch one of two things: 3 out 3 Overload, or a heroic patrol. Worked out really well for both rep farm and red boarder hunting. We would leave the fireteam and load into the public event space individually to up our chances of getting one or the other, sometimes both.
We did get quite a few red boarders, as well as weapons from the other Overload areas from the baby chest.
There is a small part of me that's annoyed that FP made that video telling people to do that, because now everyone is hunting for Terminal Overload events that are almost done, and no-one is starting them.
@@DJLite4011 Agreed. Bungie should remove a commendation from players every time they load into a terminal overload event and don't actually participate in it...
@@gutterg0d First of all, no.
Second of all, that wouldn't work anyway. They still participate, just only in the last 10% of the event.
@@DJLite4011 The problem is obviously not when they participate, it's when they DON'T. So if someone just reload if the event is at Stage 1 or 2, add a penalty. You actively load into a terminal overload event, it's not a stretch to expect the player to play it.
I have found that loading terminal overload from the map (only available after the campaign I believe) can cause a heroic patrol to Spawn. Similar to needing to do 3-6 regular to cause it to Spawn, roughly loading 3-6 times you might see a heroic Spawn. You can farm both terminal overload and heroic patrol at the same time.
You can triple dip on ANY sparrow. Also you can actually quadruple dip, if you have either one of two things a friend in the same instance. Then you just leave the area and then fast travel to the chest area and you can grab it a 4th time IF you’re fast enough. Or you can try your luck and just travel back to the area and hope it’s the same! Hope this helps. I’ve quadruple dipped a good amount I was able to get a nimbus rank per run this way. Hope this helps!
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere but be sure to have crafted weapons equipped when double dipping the chest. I'm getting a rank up on them every 3/4 times
6:10 that sync with the glaive and your words is perfect
Sad to report the heroic patrols no longer drop a weapon every time this season. I didn't get the hand cannon in time and the 3 I've done 1 was a weapon, 2 were armor.
Wow
@@huh7111 There's really no farm now, just doing the weekly quests, you can still get red borders from the heroics, they're just not guaranteed to be a weapon (not necessarily red border) now with armor dropping from those quests as well. And while its rare and the video mentions they never saw it in their playtime I got about 3 or 4 of my red border items from reputation rewards with Nimbus. I'm also at level 75 or so with them so that tells you it's pretty rare to get them that way. :/
I came here to double check this because I keep getting world drops. Thank god for deepsight harmonizer
It’s very weird that the full set of Neomuna weapons isn’t craftable, and also a shame that the only heavy Strand weapon can’t be crafted.
It's on purpose. The smg and lmg are amazing weapons.
They said that there'd be less crafting because they agreed with the complaints that crafting took away rng excitement however they said all neomuna weapons would be available but changed it later likely indicating a possible last minute decision
@@Elfaia the smg is an amazing weapon? have you seen the 3rd column of perks? 🤣
@@retrosaur_ Envious assassin is great but IMO the mvp perk in that column is pulse monitor. Don't know if you've noticed but in this current sandbox, you get hit and hit hard very often compared to previous seasons and pulse monitor just procs all the time.
Would if have been better if we get more meta rolls like subsistence or feeding frenzy? Absolutely. But those 2 perks ain't half bad.
It's also plenty good in pvp with max range, keep away and kill clip.
@@wintereclipse3263 "RNG excitement" smh... people really be masochistic.
Hell, with those red border HC drop rates, nothing changes. You're still doing the same mindlessly easy activity on repeat for 20+ without even a guarantee that you'll ever get one.
I don't get why people with gambling problems keep asking for our loot games to keep getting worse.
You don't need Always on Time to get 3 chests total, though it's nice to have and gives you more room to breathe when going back and forth between load zones to grab the chest.
That Iterative Loop pronunciation is killing me lmao
Btw, you do NOT need Always on Time to double dip into the chest for Terminal Overload. Any sparrow can do it!
If you're fast enough you can triple dip.
Got at rank 54 with Nimbus in pretty much one week and a weekend.
Forgot to comment this the first time I saw it pop up. It's much more efficient to wait until overload isn't in liming harbor. This gives you 2 fast travel options eliminating the need to farm patrols. I get them consistently off the bat just fast traveling between the 2 to enter different lobbies and increase the probability of a gold patrol. Hope this helps anyone still struggling. You can still do this this with overload in the harbor, but fast traveling to the same location repeatedly sometimes re-enters the same lobby. Cheers.
You can triple dip with any exotic or probably legendary sparrow. Unless you're taking forever it gives you plenty of time.
Btw a quick farm for the heroic patrols if you complete one in the around u spawn in, go to ur director, select terminal overload and it will spawn u into a new server and do that over and over again, a cheese way to do it
“Itter Ative Loop.”
so i have pulse, fusion, and GL done. Im 1 away from HC and Sniper and ive been spawning and refreshing the terminal zone ONLY bc its populated so most people do patrols in the area and one will spawn. Its more populated so more of a chance. If i want to spawn one myself I have found that doing around 5-7 patrols will spawn one in some cases 2 (very rarely) but Ahisma Park is a a small area with a cluster of kill/ghost scan patrols that are easy! by doing this I should have all guns crafted by tonight. Having people in a discord call/ channel also helps bc someone will usually find one and you can join do it and dip and repeat. OR just farm patrols which go by so fast. Glad to see you brought this up to the peeps!
I’ve not wanted a hand cannon in awhile, like really desired it, but this season has two that I desperately want. I want the Robin! And the Fusion Rifle. Tracer rockets are a lot of fun, if hard to notice.
We just had 3 of us each loading into the Terminal Overload individually until one of us either got a heroic patrol or a stage 3 of 3 overload event and then we would just join the person who got either to pop. Super efficient
Did anyone notice the shotgun Imperial Decree from Season of Opulence is shown to be craftable but isn’t found anywhere in the collections or database? I thought this was kinda odd.
War table has an engram that gives Imperial Decree + the class specific swords, e.g. Goldtusk.
I've gotten a Deepsight from buying the engrams
It is craftable... you gotta go to the war table and you can buy some with 2 defiance engrams ... I got 3 red borders so far but on light gg it's the rolls aren't shown
@@xEnder789x ah, thanks. I haven’t spent any war table engrams yet. Still, it’s weird that it isn’t in the database so I can’t see what the possible rolls are.
Yes it is craftable cuz I got red border my first time I focused a engram. And I’ve done 30 engrams since with at least 10 more imperial decrees with not a single red border since the first
@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Hopefully it’ll appear in the database along with the swords on Tuesday
i like how farming on neomuna overlaps. doing patrols, opening random chests, chasing high-value targets, playing within the vez incursion zone, and doing public events all help you with numerous things
Except red border HCs, because those are a hoax.
They don't exist. They're lies. Stop telling me they exist, i'm 30h into my grind and dropped exactly 0.
I have all other weapons pretty much done, but those ? Nah.
Can I just say big up to you and the team for the constant videos being put out! You’re putting in the work, big respect cross ❤
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
Best way to get heroic patrols to spawn is load into a terminal overload, as this takes you to orbit, which is much faster than going to orbit the manuel way, then pull up your ghost to see if any pop up. If there are non then fast travel to liming harbor and pull up your ghost to check. If none reload into terminal overload to reset the instance and you will get it to spawn so fast!
Slap that like button like yo momma taught ya right!
No I don't think I will
This is a must for me to hear on a daily base
Cringe
Bottom**
TIL it’s “Taught” and not “Told”
It's weird that the 3 of neomuna weapons are not craftable, but the other ones are 🤔
So Terminal Overload has people playing longer
If every weapon was craftable people would eventually stop doing terminal overload. Bungie wants to keep us grinding that shit for godrolls
Same as escalation protocol, with unique drops
@@v-7815 jokes on them i got all the godrolls first day i cheesed it lmao.
Now to finish the quest on my hunter and do the campaign on titan for strand and I'll prolly have everything ready to craft.
@@fotis3v480 Jokes on you for cheesing stuff, now you have less to do and you'll be on of those people on reddit that complain "there's nothing do to" within 1-2 weeks..
fastest way to spawn heroic patrols is just to keep loading into new terminal overload instances until one spawns
It's really lame that they didn't make all of the location weapons craftable like the Throne World weapons. Oh well, guess that means we just have to abuse the chest farm till it's patched
Good. Making everything craftable is boring
Wow, i very much may have been runnning terminals for ever and just getting nothing towards crafting that hand cannon, thank you for clearing that up!
Current method to farm legendary patrols for my team is to all split up and que for the terminal overload activity. Check your ghost if one spawns have all your teammates join, complete and repeat! I already have the grenade launcher crafted and I just need to get 1-2 more red borders for each.
YOU WERE THE ONE WHO SAID TERMINAL DROPS RED BORDERS....in your double dipping video you said "get those red border" this is dropping red borders or something to that affect. But thank you much for this explaination video. way more clear.
I NEVER get a neomuna weapon out of a heroic patrol smh🤦♂️
I honestly like this me and my buddy figured this out I would just work on the terminal overload while he would grab patrols and we would just keep rotating and just doing non stop patrols while doing terminal and holy crap was it a great way to farm
Before you make a full video on it and make all the programmers in your audience twitch, Iterative Loop isn’t “iter-ative”. It comes from the word iterate and so is pronounced “it-er-a-tiv”
Maybe I'm dumb... but is that not the same pronunciations
FINALLY the video that explains it right…mostly.
Hands down, fastest way is with 3 people. Load in separately, pop your ghost, you’ll see every patrol on the map and notice what tier the Terminal is. Whomever has the heroic bounty or tier 3, join them. If you really want to be a sweat, party leader can boot instead of have people return to orbit. Rinse and repeat. The precision kill bounty can be completed with everybody getting rewards as they fly in. You can pick up the bounty, complete it, and boot your buddies before they land for full rewards.
With zero red borders on my last 15+ heroic bounties, I’m down 3. A couple buddies are done.
Overall, great video. The misinformation out there has been laughable. Way to straighten things out Cross and team!
"Bungie made the change a long time ago that only crafted weapons will drop with a deepsight variant"
I didn't know 4 days ago was a long time
This all only matters IF you have access to craftable weapons. If you havent unlocked them, no red borderbweapons will appear.
Learned this the hard way as a new player.
Like yo momma taught you right!!!!
“Itter-AT-ive loop” is the most creative cross mispronunciation in a while (it’s Iter-UH-tive)
Queue into TO mission. Look for Heroic Patrol. If it is there, do it. If it isn’t, fast travel to LH zone. Look for Heroic Patrol. If it’s there, do it. If it isn’t, queue into TO. Rinse, repeat. I’ve done several like this. Drop rate is 10-20 percent (guessing).
For heroic Patrols, I just load up the Terminal Overload, if I don't see one, I waypoint to Liming Harbor, if none, then sparrow to the next zone, where the events aren't active, rinse and repeat. I get a pretty good amount of Heroic Patrols this way
People complain about the craftable weapon grind and then do this shit… like man just play the game and have fun DO NOT do this, u will get what you need eventually and who knows, bungie might even make it easier for you just like the end of last season. Everyone else was burning out and complaining about the red boarder grind and all i had to do was get on the game each day, buy an engram, and get off or do something else
"Iter Ative loop" oh cross, you're so precious
Today is one of best days for heroic patrols. Fast travel between the ahimsa park terminal overload spawn and lining harbor under it. Patrols respawn and heroics usually happen within 5 or so fast travels. Takes less than a minute
I finally did the heroic patrols todayb and having gone in with two weapons already being craftable, it took me a whole 12 hours of a single sitting to get the other three craftable.
Dang he pronounced basso ostinato perfectly just to say “itter attive” 30 seconds later
I spent HOURS farming TOs and Gold Patrols from red borders of the fusion rifle, I had NO idea I needed to unlock the weapon first :( Now I will make sure I finish those quests lol
Ayy props for making this known. It took me a few runs to notice this was the case with Terminal overload but this will be helpful to someone.
I am having so much fun with this expansion. I know it's subjective but I have no clue why everyone is being negative about this game it's no where near as bad as people are saying. I've seen nothing but skewed judgement and highly subjective gripes that have no merit whatsoever. Anyway thanks for the guide as always and keep up the good work!!
I load into Terminal Overload, and check for Heroic Patrols. If there are none, I just sparrow into the next patrol zone. If none are there I move onto the next. I've had Heroic Patrols show up back-to-back-to-back numerous times just leaving the Terminal Overload area.
You can run the From Hero and To Zero on each of your characters for 3 easy red borders. Plus the quests on your 2nd and 3rd characters are shorter and easier. After that, all you need is 2 red borders.
I also played only my warlock for much of the season, and tried farming a ridiculous number of heroic patrols. I could only get 3 max of all craftable guns (1 from campaign + 2 heroic drops), but never anymore. To get the full 5, I had to do campaign on other characters.
I’m gonna go with no matter what you do, a red border will drop maybe one out of 50 times. People last season were complaining about the lack of red borders, literally last year it was raining red borders compared to what we get this season.
Load into Terminal Overload and check for Gold Patrol, if you don't find it, check the other two zones before loading back into Terminal Overload. If you have a fireteam of two, one can go left the other right and usualy be able to check the other two zones in 15 seconds or less, which, on console is faster than just realoading into Terminal Overload again and again.
I way we found to generate heroic patrols is to just load into a terminal overload, check the area with you loud ghost out to see if there is a heroic patrol, if there isn’t just load into it again until you get one.
Imma be honest, Nimbus has been great for getting deepsight for me. I'm rank 39 with him and about half of my drops after rank 30 have been deepsight. So far I can craft the hand cannon and the fusion and i only need one more deepsight for the other 3
i have done over 90 golden patrols and have got 1 redboarder pullsrifle and 5 Heavy grenade louncher and im farming the pullsrifle -_-. Tipp: get in a fireteam of 2 and spawn at the terminal overload spawnpoint and check for golden patrols if there are none in the spawn area drive to the other 2 areas and look for them. if there are none spawn again at the terminal overload spawnpoint and do it again
I've been farming it for 4 hours and got onle 1 deepsight weapon. And every time I complete a heroic patrol I get anything except neomuna weapons(well, I do but very seldom)
So cross I got atleast 2-3 deepsights from terminal overload, not the key chest but as either random drops or the free chest. The gold patrols are def the best method though.
Right this isn't anything to do with this video but for the people trying to farm deepsight weapons in neomuna I've found that it's better to open your map up and select the terminal overload instead of keep spawning in at liming harbor because this way the herioc patrols have a better spawn chance. I hope this helps
I think it's legit 50/50.
for heroic patrols just keep reloading the area i did like 6 in 30 mins doing that.
@azteccross u can also get heroic patrols just by refreshing the area which is faster then just completing the current patrols in the area
You can load into a thermal overload zone and pull ur ghost out and check then get on you sparrow and travel to the new load zone pull ur ghost out and look.if nothing pops up reload into another thermal overload. You can't fast travel. You must load into another thermal overload. Via on map icon.
Some corrections about the patrols and they best way to farm heroic, they seem like they appear after doing some because the patrols naturally refresh and have a chance of spawning them, absolutely no correlation, 100% rng. The best way to farm heroic patrols is to constantly queue into the terminal overload while still on planet, you don't need to go back to orbit, it will always load you into a new instance. Finished 3 weapons in just over an hour
Man you are the goat when it comes information on this game! Keep it up cross, love the content!
They can certainly be helpful, but I wish they didn’t rush them out as much. Otherwise we end up with situations like this, where Cross is the one who actually confused everyone in the first place by saying that craftable weapons drop from Terminal Overload in his last video th-cam.com/video/eka-7QdY_1I/w-d-xo.htmlm0s
that chest in the apartment took a while for me, I did notice the broken glass below after passing it 3-4 times xD
Hey Ross! Loading into a Terminal Overload, checking to see if they’re any heroic missions, then loading back in is the fastest!
Honestly i have just been loading into a terminal overload session, if it's not started i just whip out my ghost and look for the heroic patrol. If it doesn't spawn at the area the TO is at i just go on a sparrow and move to other patrol areas. Usually there are ATLEAST two heroic patrols on the same session. Pretty efficient. Already got my HGL crafted.
Terminal overloads were initially stated to drop deepsights.
Bungie forgot. Then they edited the twab saying you could get red borders form overload yesterday
The old loot the chest cheese. Brings back memories to when we were all waiting for the House of Wolves dlc to drop way back in D1.
I have gotten a red border weapon from the Terminal Overload chest by the way. It wasn't a Neomuna weapon though. It was an Ikelos sniper rifle.
One way that has worked for me is to do 2 or 3 of the scan patrols in one area, then travel to different areas without going to orbit. Si far, it has given me about 3 consecutive exotic patrols this way.
i found a new method to farm the deepsights. you just launch the terminal overload to spawn there then if there isn't a heroic patrol there then fast travel to liming harbor. rinse and repeat until a heroic patrol spawns in for you, and you can do it solo with this method.
I wasn’t impressed by the fusions at first but then I realized u can get volt shot on the arc fusion. Imagine accelerated plus charge time or reload masterwork u could spam and reload for voltshot crazy fast
I’m still pissed that it can’t roll demo + voltshot.
The seasonal Solar fusion can’t run demo incandescent either
Compulsive reloader
Fastest way to get heroic patrols to spawn is to go into the Terminal Overload, open your ghost, check to see if there are any, and if not, reload into a new terminal overload. Fallout made a video on it
Hi Cross! I think it's not "Lime-ing" Harbor but "Lee-ming". I can see the Chinese tonal mark on the letter "I", which sounds like "dawn" in Chinese. "Harbor of Dawn" does make sense in the context.
BTW I always thought your ID is Aztec Ross, but apparently, everyone calls you Cross. I guess I do what the Romans do lol
You can also get the uncraftable Neomuna weapons from the other chest too. That one is random. I've gotten the shot gun while doing the machine gun run. I also got double smgs and that's how I got my God roll!
You can fly/spawn for the Terminal overload mission everytime and check all areas for the Legendary Patrol. If you don´t find any go to the map and select it again. It´s takes a little bit because you need to fly there every time. But the Patrols are reseting this way
The legendary patrols have higher chance for reds?
I've done so many heroic patrols at this point and not gotten a *_single red border._*
I've only gotten them from Nimbus during level 30+ Rank Ups.
best way is to get on coms with a fireteam, but solo in game, everyone continuously loads into terminal overload and looks for heroic events, if there arent any, reload terminal overload, if there is one, then everyone joins that one person, finish the patrol then break up and repeat.
You don’t have to do any patrols to spawn Heroic Patrols. Do a lap around all 3 locations and go to orbit if you don’t see one.
Ive found that the best way to get heroic patrols to spawn is by going to the neomuna map and travelling to the terminal overload zone as it works like returning to orbit and loads you into a different thing instead of staying in the same thingy your in (idk how to describe this thingy) but if it doesn’t spawn just rinse and repeat, happy farming everyone
Edit: i got this info from falloutplays, he explains it better so go watch his video if you want
“Instance” I believe is the word you’re looking for
They must have patched this.
@@nothisispatrick3894 no I was doing it like 2 hours ago maybe
@Death with benefits I went back to orbit 15 times after running one and no patrol appeared. Maybe I just had INCREDIBLY bad RNG? Compared to last night which was every other run.
Cormorant was hitting for 8.6 k a bullet in the new strike . Aw yeah. I ve ran all the Titan types and one thing is certain , they all kick ass . Might die or get bounced once in a while but it’s way fun .
I have never ever gotten a Red Border weapon from a Heroic Patrol.
The fastest way I found was to load up Terminal Overload check for legendary patrols if none reload terminal overload.