Mexican Army in Texas: The Sea of Mud

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  • @johnadams5489
    @johnadams5489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A Great bit of information I did not know. Great presentation too!

  • @jimwatson842
    @jimwatson842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In author Steve Frazee’s excellent non-fiction novel “The Alamo” (1960) some of the ammo used with artillery is called “grape”.

  • @davidgarcia-jk6nt
    @davidgarcia-jk6nt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Need this in Texas schools. Read Forget The Alamo

    • @granddukeofmecklenburg
      @granddukeofmecklenburg ปีที่แล้ว

      Terrible book...
      Summary of What led to Texas revolution...
      After Stephan F Austin set up colonization, Texas was extraordinarily dangerous...Comanche, Karankawa, and US, and Mexican Criminals were all a problem through the 1820s, and 30s.
      Stephan F Austin formed the Rangers in 1823 to protect Colonist after multiple raids, scalpings, and Livestock theft. In 1825 Comanche raided San Antonio and spent 6 days looting...
      In 1832 they raided San Antonio again, 1832 being different given the heavy presence of Mexican troops garrisoned in San Antonio being both fortified and having numerical superiority, and not even taking action...just watching the mayham.
      This became common with Mexico.
      They were useless at defending civilians from raids.
      In 1827 Texian militias put down the Fredonian rebellion.
      Mexico being so useless at its job, and Being part of Coahuila with such an inferior representation it essentially couldn't govern the region, led to problems.
      Being part of Coahuila was the main grievance of Texas until 1835.
      In 1830 Immigration from the US
      and Slavery was banned in Texas.
      Texan slave owners didn't put up much a fuss about it, as they just swapped to 99 year Indentured Servitude.
      Not even a big deal, particularly compared to the actual problems brewing.
      What came in 1830 that pissed Texians off was the New Customs and Garrison post on Galveston Bay. More specifically the man put in charge Juan Davis Bradburn, an American born Mexican Customs officer, that added Juan to his name(basically Proto-Beto O'Rourke)
      Bradbury regularly harrased citizens, Enforced the law prohibiting immigrants settling within 26 miles of the coast, on Settlements formed either before 1824, or added in 1827. So, legally didn't count.
      The Commisioner had to sort all the grants out, to get Bradbury to stop with specifically that. Like all other men with troops, working for the Mexican government, he was useless at defending local Settlements from Attacks, yet in 1832 he arrested a Militia leader, because Militias were illegal in Mexico, Texas being an Exemption given half the point Mexico allowed settlement in Texas was to halt the Comanche, and to add to this the Town of Gonzales was recently given a Cannon by the Government to better defend itself. He let the militia leader, Patrick Jack go, after a significant number of Death threats.
      Bradbury showed many signs of Paranoid Schizo delusions, given he was always using "a letter from a friend" as an excuse for anything he did. Shit hit the fan when 3 Slaves escaped Louisiana, and were within Bradburys custody. When the Louisiana slave owner travelled to Texas to reclaim his slaves, he retained a local Lawyer...one of the only Lawyers in the area, William Travis... Legally their wasn't much Travis could do for the slave owner, which he knew, But Bradbury got one of his Schizo "letters from a friend" saying 100 troops from Louisiana were coming to retrieve the slaves. After "realizing" his oddly never folded, without a postal stamp Letter, was a fraud, written oddly in handwriting nearly identical to his own, Through Legandary Mental Gymnastics he Had William Travis arrested on suspicions for some reason?
      In the Unprecedented Stupidity of the Situation, Despite the letter being fraudulent, but the fact it was quickly realized these 100 Louisiana soldiers didn't even exist, Bradbury further achieved his dreams of being an Olympic gold medalist in mental gymnastics by deciding Travis, that was just a lawyer picked to represent a guy, was to be sent to matamoros for a kangaroo military court trial on charges of insurrection which was punishable by Execution.
      Naturally this god-tier Scitzomoment that was transpiring with a man's life on the line, pissed off the local Texians, already sick of Bradbury's insanity, were furious.
      The same Militia Leader previously arrested by Bradbury, Patrick Jack threatened Bradburn and was then also arrested and also accused of attempted insurrection.
      Brazario Councilmen John Austin went to the Commander of the Brazos Garrison, Domingo Ugartehea, who recommended that Austin request that the men be tried in civilian custody.
      Bradburn's office said the law prohibited turning the accused over to Civilian custody.
      At this time both Travis and Jack had no representation, and planned to escape, sending letters for help, that were intercepted, that made no mention of inciting a revolt. And were never received by Burnet who they were addressed to.
      Funnily enough the horses of 2 officers, went missing, despite the lack of evidence of these horses existing, much less why they would've, or if stolen by who, 2 men from Brazario were arrested the day after Austin talked to Bradburn.
      So seeing all this happen,Militias formed, and linked up under Frank Johnson, and they Proceeded to capture 19 Mexican officers, before occupying buildings in Northern Anauhauc. Bradburn suspecting a full scale revolt tied Travis and Jack to the ground at Gunpoint, and threatened to shoot them if the Texans attacked. Travis yelled something along the lines of "Give em hell" in Defiance, as the Militia had only come to negotiate the 19 Mexican officers, for the 4 prisoners.
      The Mexican Military Garrison stepped in and agreed with the Militia, to make the exchange, with the 4 being transferred to Civilian custody. Following this around 15 Texans scattered around the town made Bradburn Paranoid, and he gave them 2 hours to leave, less than an hour after the agreement. He gave them 2 hours our he'd fire on them. The Texans thought bradburn was lying as usual. But the women and children were still evacuated.
      But for once he wasn't. His men attacked. 5 Mexicans were wounded and 2 Texan was killed.
      The main Texan Militia was down in turtle Bayou were they were starting to disperse before hearing the News. And after this they reformed and Marched on Fort Velasco. 125 Militia, rapidly stormed the fort, garrisoned by 100 mexican soldiers. 7 Texans killed, 14 wounded, the Mexicans lost 5 killed, 16 wounded. The Garrison was released on the condition they march south to matamotos. Bradburn was finally removed from his position by the Mexican government, after this.
      Just months later Army commander Jose de las Piedras on reviewing the Anahauc disturbances came up with a brilliant idea...He issued orders for all residents to surrender their arms. With 2 days 300 Militia formed near Nacogdoches. Piedras sent 100 Calvary to break the Militia, but the Calvary was repelled. The militia proceeded to push towards the old stone fort, fighting house to house, as the Mexican troops began falling back into the Fort, as the militia besieged it.
      A 2nd line formed that drove the Mexican Calvary from the Mexican Headquarters, while another line approached from the south. During the night the Mexican troops evacuated, but in the morning were ambushed by 17 men, as Piedras fled to a nearby house, as his men turned against him, turning to Capitan Francisco Medina who surrendered...they were marched to San Antonio and released...
      The Battle of Nacogdoches saw
      4 Texans were killed 3 were wounded...
      47 Mexican soldiers killed, 40 wounded, 300 captured...
      The 4 prisoners cases were dropped...
      And it kinda just ended their.
      That was it...
      The Texas Revolution was still 3 years away.
      Through 1832 to 1834 Texas further pursued negotiations over becoming a state seperate of Coahuila.
      In 1833 Coahuila like pretty much every other Mexican state from 1833-1835 revolted, and Juan Seguin called a town meeting in San Antonio to set up a provisional government, since the state it was part of was technically in revolt. This ended after Santa Anna brutally put down the Coahuila revolt.
      Texas pushed even harder to leave Coahuila, Stephan Austin was arrested in Mexico city without any charges for 18 months during his attempts.
      The Taxes were now getting extremely high, the Corruption somehow even worse, and the issues in Texas were getting worse by default.
      Then in 1835 Santa Anna repealed the Constitution of 1824.
      Lorenzo De Zevala became the first prominent name to suggest independence.
      Tho the Independence movement was still pretty small with little traction.Then. the state of Zacatecas revolted. Santa Anna crushed the revolt and gave his men 2 days to rape and pillage the city of Zacatecas, while thousands of civilians were slaughtered across the state...
      Around that time Stephan F Austin was released from Prison after his 18 months of being locked up on no charges. He heard what had happened at Zacatecas, and started to realize Independence was the only option.
      He reached Texas in August just before Santa Anna Ordered General Cos to March into Texas to put an end to any disturbances. 10 days later the Town of Gonzalez was ordered to return the cannon it was given in 1830,the town refused. So Lt. Castaneda was ordered to Seize it with his Dragoons...
      Overnight the Independence movement Exploded, and the Texas Revolution would begin near Gonzalez on October 2nd 1835...
      That's were the come and take it flag was made...
      Bradburn kept autocorrecting to Bradbury...Autocorrect moment

  • @apauljuice
    @apauljuice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man was my pediatrician

  • @gracechristian1381
    @gracechristian1381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice

  • @zhoncy
    @zhoncy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    José Urrea: Political career and territorial power bases
    in Durango and Sonora. 1821-1849 dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ehmcm.2016.10.001

  • @mariepi
    @mariepi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is something unknown, but in 1836 Texas was still a property of Spain (it was neither of Mexico nor of the Texas rebels): Spain recognized the independence of Mexico in December 1836, after the failure of several attempts to recover Mexico as the "landing of Tampico". It is true that Spain had given to the Austin family the right to settle in Texas to a certain number of settlers, especially "German Catholics" and Irish, possibly after the good functioning that it saw in these settlers when it tried to colonize the current state of Missouri, in which Moses Austin collaborated in its colonization ( and Daniel Boone (!))

  • @marthagomez7335
    @marthagomez7335 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Mexico 🇲🇽, Tejas Mexico where they were supposed to be to expell invader, rebel, pirates

  • @nickhomyak6128
    @nickhomyak6128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is David Burnett not Mentioned First President of the Republic of Texas during the Battle of the Alamo and rival of Houston?

  • @ConstancioRosellini5873
    @ConstancioRosellini5873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even with the change of the Mexican governmental political system, Texas did not have the right to separate from Mexico, since it was a Mexican territory, its sovereignty corresponded to all of Mexico.
    What Santa Anna did in the Alamo, from my point of view was correct, since those US-American immigrants who lived in Mexican Texas, rebelled against the Mexican government, (because Mexico did not support slavery) the same Mexico that had given falicilidades to settle in Mexican territory.
    Balkanize a Mexican province to separate from its country, I do not think it is correct.

    • @JosephOlson-ld2td
      @JosephOlson-ld2td 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are clueless on Texas history > "The Medina Massacre" at CanadaFreePress > Texas Independence was as legitimate as Mexican Independence from Spain

    • @cmartinez1903
      @cmartinez1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stephen F Austin strived to reach a peaceful settlement with Santa Anna. He traveled to Mexico City to demonstrate his sincerity. Santa Anna inprisoned him and he contracted TB. That is like Obama sending Hillary Clinton to Texas and the Governor imprisoned her. How would the rest of the country feel? Enraged!!

    • @JosephOlson-ld2td
      @JosephOlson-ld2td 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cmartinez1903 > what "right" did Mexico have to rebel against Spain, and claim Apache, Comanche, Cherokee and Caddo land that Spain never controlled > Santa Anna killed hundreds of thousands of Mexicans

    • @emperadormexico
      @emperadormexico 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JosephOlson-ld2td ¿¿¿¿¿????

    • @maximolacerante8808
      @maximolacerante8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cmartinez1903 : peaceful settlement? for what? to secede? you expected Santa Anna was going to just shake his hand?

  • @davidgarcia-jk6nt
    @davidgarcia-jk6nt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Needs to be in Texas school text books. Read Forget The Alamo learn real texas

  • @professionalgoob
    @professionalgoob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tbh Mexico could of done so much better if they didn’t have Santa Anna in charge, he was literally responsible for Mexico losing the final battle of the war.

    • @guillersl9510
      @guillersl9510 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Santa Anna did ok as a general, buy he was crazy fool by leading the mexican army into Texas. He should've named General Urrea (the most capable general he had) in command of the army.

    • @professionalgoob
      @professionalgoob ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@guillersl9510 From what I could find personal and political reasons didn’t allow him to do that. He didn’t want Urrea gaining most of the glory and attention from victory in Texas.