I just got a brand new 3m grillon and had to use it today. I work petrochem so everything is just trying to melt it. This video is way better than the BFK I was using
Nice work, I'm going to use the Anders method from now on. I've been using a different method of wrapping the tail round and round and it looks good but it's slow. Every day is a school day!
It is just a piece of semi static rope. Beal Contract I think. I have multiple leftover pieces from damaged ropes laying around and just exchange those every few months. I don't like stitched ends on my ropes. Especially for positioning. That Barrelknot gives me a few more centimeters of height that for some reason often seem to matter😉
I like this method more than what we usually do. At work it's always 3m grillions but at home I made a 6m aborist imitation lanyard but I have no non-time consuming way to wrap it up and store it. I wanna know more about the little DMM pulley biner on the prussik. I could guess maybe how I may incorrectly use it but I wanna know how it's supposed to be used.
The one in the thumbnail is about 4,5 meters and turns into a quite smal package. But it takes a minute to do. When I works as an arborist I had a 5 meter one and used a small prussik cord on the tail end and that DMM revolver on the front to create 4 loops of about 60cm each to the harness. Easy to store and take out when needed. Super quick while climbing around. You can do with the Revolver prussik comb whatever you like. In this instance that prussik is not rated and the Revolver non locking so it can never be a full point of contact. I use it for a RADS setup, or run a rope through when lifting light things up. I have a small pulley available to use for other things. I have taken it off to use as a slight deviation and it made life easier on quite a few instances.
@@TheRopeAccessChannelI'm a subscriber from SouthKorea! I want to ask, I'm using Grillon, but I'm curious about the advantages of Mad Rock's products. We are using this device for edge securing each other(sorry for bad in English)
@@catchingfire for me the real difference is that a Grillon has certain EN numbers that the Safeguard has not. I like the safeguard because it is small.
I tend to store the "loose" tail end laddered like you would when storing a rope (form loop pull another loop through that loop repeat) then attach "short" carabiner through the last loop to stop it flapping in the way when climbing. Compact even with a fairly long lanyard like the 5m Grillon I carry and you can easily release it with one hand by just pulling if necessary if you need more length to wrap round the structure.
I've always clipped the rope biner into the anchor biner, made three equal length strands and done a figure 8. Super quick and similar length to this if you've got the 2m lanyard.
I store mine by pulling the device all the way to my tail stopper, then daisy chain the rope from the device to the carabiner. I like to leave my last loop a little longer and attach it to the gate side of my carabiner. Then when I want to use it I push the loop over the gate and open it. This makes it one fluid motion to get it open and unravel the daisy and it’s easy to do with one hand. We use the 2m grillon though.
With the device on my ventral (waist) d ring I: -make the tail and the load side the same length -clip the the end of the lanyard to one of my side D’s -poke the stopper through the crab i just placed on my side D. Quick and easy. My rope is about 2m after tying the knots but if it was a 3m one i’d just poke the loops inside my leg strap or tie a slippery hitch in them.k x
Great video yet again! Love Anders content on instagram. Have you switched to the Edelrid triple lock harness over the cmc atom or just testing? They’re the 2 I want to try next. And is the safeguard ok to use for 2 person rescue? Thanks for all the content mate
I.ve use the Atom for about 6 months. Now it is Edelrids turn for a while. I switch between them. Just testing, comparing and working on long term review of everything I get my hands on ;-) I would not use the safeguard as a two person descender. But you should check the manufacturers website. I cant remember.
I don’t think I would use it for that either was just curious. I would probably use it for a level 2 snatch rescue though? Don’t see the issue with that.
@@pauliusbeniusis1450 If I would need to buy a new harness now where I do mostly rigging, training and supervising and the occasional suspended work I would go for the new Petzl Falcon with a croll top S or L. The Edelrid would be the one for mostly working on the ropes. It is a great harness. Ill have the review done in januari
Could we have a review of that edelrid harness please. The things i’m curious about: -does the “croll” sit much higher on this harness than it does on others (making it less efficient for ascending)? -the ventral (waist) d appears to be a different shape and size; what effects does this have? .k x
Full review will come in a few weeks. Croll is comfortable and I don’t feel a difference. Except that the rope slides through easily in large R2r transfers compared to other harnesses Ventral ring can feel small and cluttered.
Where do i say I am teaching anything new? I am just showing a few ways to store your positioning lanyard. If you already know, good for you. There are plenty of people who did not know. No need to come out and come over as a smart ass. By the way, a prussik knot is quite different. A prussik rope doesn’t exist and I am not tying prussik knots in this video. When do you ever have a descender/belay device and carabiners on you prussik cords? So if you want to be a smart ass be correct in your statements. That’s me being a smart ass Enjoy your day
Thank you. I chose a 4 meter Griffon and tying it has been a task. I have been daisy-chaining it, and that takes a while to retie. This is helpful.
Glad it helped!
I just got a brand new 3m grillon and had to use it today. I work petrochem so everything is just trying to melt it. This video is way better than the BFK I was using
Beautiful! Glad it is helpfull 😃😃
Thats what I'm gonna do from now on. Thank you and thank you mister Anders 👍
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Nice work, I'm going to use the Anders method from now on. I've been using a different method of wrapping the tail round and round and it looks good but it's slow. Every day is a school day!
A student mindset is a beautiful thing😃👍🏼
Always love the videos! Going to get my Rope Rescue Tech this may, What camera do you use?
Thanks 🙏🏻. I’m using Sony. A73 and A74.
Have fun on that rescue tech cours😃😃👍🏼👍🏼
Interested to know what rope is on your madrock setup? Is it the grillon replacement rope?
It is just a piece of semi static rope. Beal Contract I think. I have multiple leftover pieces from damaged ropes laying around and just exchange those every few months. I don't like stitched ends on my ropes. Especially for positioning. That Barrelknot gives me a few more centimeters of height that for some reason often seem to matter😉
I like this method more than what we usually do. At work it's always 3m grillions but at home I made a 6m aborist imitation lanyard but I have no non-time consuming way to wrap it up and store it.
I wanna know more about the little DMM pulley biner on the prussik. I could guess maybe how I may incorrectly use it but I wanna know how it's supposed to be used.
The one in the thumbnail is about 4,5 meters and turns into a quite smal package. But it takes a minute to do. When I works as an arborist I had a 5 meter one and used a small prussik cord on the tail end and that DMM revolver on the front to create 4 loops of about 60cm each to the harness. Easy to store and take out when needed. Super quick while climbing around.
You can do with the Revolver prussik comb whatever you like. In this instance that prussik is not rated and the Revolver non locking so it can never be a full point of contact. I use it for a RADS setup, or run a rope through when lifting light things up. I have a small pulley available to use for other things. I have taken it off to use as a slight deviation and it made life easier on quite a few instances.
That customized positioning device looks interesting. Is that a Petzl Exo?
Stay sharp my friend, I say what it is at 0:44
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@@TheRopeAccessChannelI'm a subscriber from SouthKorea! I want to ask, I'm using Grillon, but I'm curious about the advantages of Mad Rock's products. We are using this device for edge securing each other(sorry for bad in English)
@@catchingfire for me the real difference is that a Grillon has certain EN numbers that the Safeguard has not. I like the safeguard because it is small.
@@TheRopeAccessChannel Thank you for your reply!
@@catchingfire my pleasure! Glad to help
I love your work thank you .
Thank you! 🙏😀
Double long end, and do daisy chain from device. Takes tension away from rope if you hang for long time. Tike your methods too.
I like that on too. Really easy to release the long end when needed👍🏻👍🏻
How do you store your positioning lanyard?
I tend to store the "loose" tail end laddered like you would when storing a rope (form loop pull another loop through that loop repeat) then attach "short" carabiner through the last loop to stop it flapping in the way when climbing. Compact even with a fairly long lanyard like the 5m Grillon I carry and you can easily release it with one hand by just pulling if necessary if you need more length to wrap round the structure.
I've always clipped the rope biner into the anchor biner, made three equal length strands and done a figure 8. Super quick and similar length to this if you've got the 2m lanyard.
I store mine by pulling the device all the way to my tail stopper, then daisy chain the rope from the device to the carabiner. I like to leave my last loop a little longer and attach it to the gate side of my carabiner. Then when I want to use it I push the loop over the gate and open it. This makes it one fluid motion to get it open and unravel the daisy and it’s easy to do with one hand. We use the 2m grillon though.
I'm quite happy with the snugged up daisy chain method, been using it for a while!
With the device on my ventral (waist) d ring I:
-make the tail and the load side the same length
-clip the the end of the lanyard to one of my side D’s
-poke the stopper through the crab i just placed on my side D.
Quick and easy. My rope is about 2m after tying the knots but if it was a 3m one i’d just poke the loops inside my leg strap or tie a slippery hitch in them.k x
Great video yet again!
Love Anders content on instagram.
Have you switched to the Edelrid triple lock harness over the cmc atom or just testing? They’re the 2 I want to try next. And is the safeguard ok to use for 2 person rescue? Thanks for all the content mate
I.ve use the Atom for about 6 months. Now it is Edelrids turn for a while. I switch between them. Just testing, comparing and working on long term review of everything I get my hands on ;-)
I would not use the safeguard as a two person descender. But you should check the manufacturers website. I cant remember.
I don’t think I would use it for that either was just curious. I would probably use it for a level 2 snatch rescue though? Don’t see the issue with that.
waiting for review for Edelrids harness, thinking to buy it instead ir petzls becouse petzls straps get loose all the time@@TheRopeAccessChannel
@@pauliusbeniusis1450 If I would need to buy a new harness now where I do mostly rigging, training and supervising and the occasional suspended work I would go for the new Petzl Falcon with a croll top S or L. The Edelrid would be the one for mostly working on the ropes. It is a great harness.
Ill have the review done in januari
What length Grillon do you use?
That would depend on the job. For me, the 2 meter version is too short. 3 meter is okay. I usually run a 4 meter rope in there.
Nice methode, but what if you do it like your first version an hook all three bites? So when you unclip it is all loos.
Try it, that could work👍🏼👍🏼
Could we have a review of that edelrid harness please.
The things i’m curious about:
-does the “croll” sit much higher on this harness than it does on others (making it less efficient for ascending)?
-the ventral (waist) d appears to be a different shape and size; what effects does this have?
.k x
Full review will come in a few weeks.
Croll is comfortable and I don’t feel a difference. Except that the rope slides through easily in large R2r transfers compared to other harnesses
Ventral ring can feel small and cluttered.
super
Thank you
Same way you tie a prussik. Nothing new lol
Where do i say I am teaching anything new? I am just showing a few ways to store your positioning lanyard. If you already know, good for you. There are plenty of people who did not know. No need to come out and come over as a smart ass.
By the way, a prussik knot is quite different. A prussik rope doesn’t exist and I am not tying prussik knots in this video. When do you ever have a descender/belay device and carabiners on you prussik cords? So if you want to be a smart ass be correct in your statements.
That’s me being a smart ass
Enjoy your day
For a positioning lanyard, 3 metres is too much. 2 metres is enough.
To each his own. For my use 2 is to short, 3 the minimum and sometimes 5 is good.. It just depends on what you are going to do.
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Why are you so mad?
@@TheRopeAccessChannel nemám české titulky a blbnout s překladačem po stránkách ...........
@@frantam3846 i don’t understand