If I ever have to take mine off, I will just replace it with the front reg delete kit. Also FX has been over tightening the bottle adaptor in the mk2 as well. I could not take mine off and abandoned the idea after cross threading it with the bottle. Now I'm just waiting for either of those components to break or leak to try and replace both of them again. Thanks again for the video.
Awesome video man I did the same but I did have a lil bit of a problem putting the 4×1.5 that is inside the regulater body patience is the key to putting that o ring back lol but I re stack them like this (())(())(())( cus im running my reg at 190 bar i had to buy some extra washers thanks for sharing bsafe
Hi, Did the service and polish on the front reg help with the effect it was having on the back reg ?. I would also like to mention that I purchased an Airmarksman backbone along with getting a HFT 500 barrel machined to fit and between them both this increased the rigidity of the rifle no end thus eliminating the POI shift problem that the impact seems to be known for.
its all straight foraward, till the part where u file the small brass piece and the plastic, so now im went from creeping into full leak lol. im going for a new regulator hehe. thanks tho, i tried.
I'm having an issue with the front regulator not fully charging when shooting. It's set at 150 bar and decreases down to 140. After sitting, it will climb back to 150. I assume the regulator needs rebuilt.
Hello thank you for the video is very useful what do you use to polish the piston and the screw adjuster ? Or second reg is creeping I need to clean and polish it
Hello! Thank you so much for this video, well detailed. I have a leak coming from the front reg maybe, tried changing the Orings but nothing changed... When I remove the bottle, the air leaks from the front reg too, is this normal? Any advice ? 🙏
Its an Ergo tactical deluxe, very hard to find in stock, I got mine on Ebay second hand, but you can find them on the brownhills website. Thanks for watching.
Dry lube is just a dry lubricant, with similar lubrication properties to grease, but since its not advised to use grease in the belleville chamber as the grease can (in rare circumstances) cause hydraulic lock of the belleville washers i.e stopping them from compressing correctly, we use the dry lube, to just give the belleville washers a little helping hand, without the possibility of hydraulic lock. In reality you could probably use grease with no problems, but I like to use dry lube for peace of mind. thanks for watching.
@@sub12airgunners I agree , I cleaned the desks a couple of days ago after noticing the regulator indicator refilling very slowly .I was amazed by the amount of dust mixed with lube 🤦🏻♂️,so I polished them ,washed them ,then applied dry powder lubricant. It became more consistent and refilling is much faster cheers.
thanks for the video, followed it to the letter. My regs are slow to recover which is why I thought I give it a clean and polish, about 20 secs to recover so zeroing is slow and painful any thoughts on what to try next. Sub 12 mk3
20 seconds sound like a lot, does it reflect it in the chrono readings? if not is may be that the gauges are just slow to recover, the other thing it could be is creep to fix that you would have to polish the top of the reg piston and the bottom of the adjuster screw, these are the sealing faces and polishing them helps greatly reduce creep as it improves the mating surfaces. Hope that helps, thanks for watching.
@@sub12airgunners Thanks. I’ll check it over the chrono. I did polish the the mating surfaces as suggested. I did have an extra bellville washer than in your one, which I’ve taken out. I did purchase a brass piston from B and K but it looks different so didn’t replace it. Perhaps that’s for reg 2. I also have a huma reg. so lots of options. Totally out of my depth now of course 🤪
Hello sir, I ve watched your videos time and time again. Much appreciated information. A question pls : Will this M3 bottle connector also fit Crown MK2 ? Looking for a way to make optimal use of my 300bar bottle i ve mounted on the Crown. Thank you. Lester
The front regs are a little weird, they don't perform perfectly but we are getting no major creep, maybe 5 bar if left overnight but no more. the M3 has held up beautifully its now super accurate and works a treat, it took a lot of work but it was worth it in the end. Thanks for watching
They are the same to me i have both a 25 cal 700mm mk2 and a m3 22cal 700mm and both guns are very accurate it just takes time setting them up to what you want to shoot if you want slugs its a little harder to get that sweet spot but pellets they both shoot them very accurate ... I like shooting slugs out of both guns the m3 is a bit easier to tune in my opinion but its the same both guns are awesome 👌
If its a good rifle for a good price, and sub 12 then yes, if its FAC then I would wait for the M3, the larger plenum for the FAC makes it more efficient and you can get a little more power out of it. Thanks for watching.
I just got a saber tactical delete kit because I had a leak in the atmosphere breathing hole I changed the 0rings like three times I got it to stop leaking for now but I did receive my delete kit and if leaks again I'll install it and just do away with front reg ....it was a very slow leak but still it's was frustrating I run my reg high anyway at 200 bar so it's only holding 50 bar which is nothing I think it was leaking because the weather changed from.very hot to very cold here in texas usa lol also I probably had the leak already I watched Ernest rowe video on the front reg diagram so I checked the reg hole and it was leaking lol freaking Ernest I would of never knew anyways yup ill probably be installing the delete kit I'll see how it goes also I applied silicone lube and left the excess on instead of wiping it off I think that helps stop the leak but they 0rings
@@sub12airgunners I installed the delete kit from saber and it was kinda scary I had to put the bottle on and off a couple times so the threads could get use to each other at one point I thought I had crossed threaded the bottle and the delete kit came all the way off so I had degas the bottle and use a wrench to take it off the bottle then put it back on the gun and tighter the crap out of it ..... inside the bottle where the threads are at those a little bit of debris so I think that's what caused it to get kind of stuck so I clean everything really well and put it on and filled with air and it's holding good 👍 and shooting good 👍 34 gr varmint knockers at 995 fps the recovery is awesome 👌
Watching ED's videos it doesn't sound he is too keen on people taking apart his rifles. so I guess he doesn't want to make them too easy to take apart. Thanks for watching.
yes most just do away with the front reg and fit the huma delete, i persevered and got it to work don't see many M3's with the front reg still attached 🤡
If I ever have to take mine off, I will just replace it with the front reg delete kit. Also FX has been over tightening the bottle adaptor in the mk2 as well. I could not take mine off and abandoned the idea after cross threading it with the bottle. Now I'm just waiting for either of those components to break or leak to try and replace both of them again. Thanks again for the video.
yes they really do tighten them up far to much, thanks for watching 👍👍
Great video as always .
Brilliant video once again!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video buddy with nice tips details... 👌👌👌Thanks to share it with us
My pleasure, thanks for watching.
Great content and info as always. Please could I ask what type of dry lubricant you use on Belville washers? is it graphite ? Thank you 🙂
My first reg keeps matching bottle pressure. I have replaced all o-rings and replaced piston as well
Nice video how many washers came in the regulator from factory thank you
Awesome video man I did the same but I did have a lil bit of a problem putting the 4×1.5 that is inside the regulater body patience is the key to putting that o ring back lol but I re stack them like this (())(())(())( cus im running my reg at 190 bar i had to buy some extra washers thanks for sharing bsafe
Thanks, yeah patience is key, good to hear you can run the reg that high. Thanks for watching.
@@860fps2 yes
@@860fps2 bottle you can put 14
@@860fps2 like this fir really high pressure (())(())(())(( some other guy I know is running is gun like this with 14 washer I only use 13
Could FX possibly have used the wrong loc-tite and an impact on the bottle reg? Any thoughts on using VC-3 threadmate instead of loc-tite?
Thank you
You're welcome 👍
What is the size of the brass sleeve o’rings?
Hi, need help here... Do you know the size oring near the brass cup?
Hi,
Did the service and polish on the front reg help with the effect it was having on the back reg ?. I would also like to mention that I purchased an Airmarksman backbone along with getting a HFT 500 barrel machined to fit and between them both this increased the rigidity of the rifle no end thus eliminating the POI shift problem that the impact seems to be known for.
the front reg can affect the rear reg so getting the front one working well will help the rear reg 😀
its all straight foraward, till the part where u file the small brass piece and the plastic, so now im went from creeping into full leak lol.
im going for a new regulator hehe.
thanks tho, i tried.
I'm having an issue with the front regulator not fully charging when shooting. It's set at 150 bar and decreases down to 140. After sitting, it will climb back to 150. I assume the regulator needs rebuilt.
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Hello thank you for the video is very useful what do you use to polish the piston and the screw adjuster ? Or second reg is creeping I need to clean and polish it
we use wet and dry paper 2000/4000/6000 same for both regs👍
@@sub12airgunners thank you sir
Hello! Thank you so much for this video, well detailed. I have a leak coming from the front reg maybe, tried changing the Orings but nothing changed... When I remove the bottle, the air leaks from the front reg too, is this normal? Any advice ? 🙏
you do get air vent from the front reg when you remover the bottle this is common
Este regulador se puede instalar en la MK2 ????
Great Video, where did you get the grip.
Its an Ergo tactical deluxe, very hard to find in stock, I got mine on Ebay second hand, but you can find them on the brownhills website. Thanks for watching.
Hello Jake ! How can dry lubricant improve the performance of the regulator disks ?
Thanks
Dry lube is just a dry lubricant, with similar lubrication properties to grease, but since its not advised to use grease in the belleville chamber as the grease can (in rare circumstances) cause hydraulic lock of the belleville washers i.e stopping them from compressing correctly, we use the dry lube, to just give the belleville washers a little helping hand, without the possibility of hydraulic lock. In reality you could probably use grease with no problems, but I like to use dry lube for peace of mind. thanks for watching.
@@sub12airgunners I agree , I cleaned the desks a couple of days ago after noticing the regulator indicator refilling very slowly .I was amazed by the amount of dust mixed with lube 🤦🏻♂️,so I polished them ,washed them ,then applied dry powder lubricant. It became more consistent and refilling is much faster cheers.
thanks for the video, followed it to the letter. My regs are slow to recover which is why I thought I give it a clean and polish, about 20 secs to recover so zeroing is slow and painful any thoughts on what to try next. Sub 12 mk3
20 seconds sound like a lot, does it reflect it in the chrono readings? if not is may be that the gauges are just slow to recover, the other thing it could be is creep to fix that you would have to polish the top of the reg piston and the bottom of the adjuster screw, these are the sealing faces and polishing them helps greatly reduce creep as it improves the mating surfaces. Hope that helps, thanks for watching.
@@sub12airgunners Thanks. I’ll check it over the chrono. I did polish the the mating surfaces as suggested. I did have an extra bellville washer than in your one, which I’ve taken out. I did purchase a brass piston from B and K but it looks different so didn’t replace it. Perhaps that’s for reg 2. I also have a huma reg. so lots of options. Totally out of my depth now of course 🤪
How to instal maverick chamber
Hello sir,
I ve watched your videos time and time again. Much appreciated information.
A question pls :
Will this M3 bottle connector also fit Crown MK2 ? Looking for a way to make optimal use of my 300bar bottle i ve mounted on the Crown.
Thank you.
Lester
thanks 😀 no unfortunately it won't fit the crown
@@sub12airgunners I feared that much. Thanks for your swift response.👍
Does anyone know all oring size inside to the reg please
Following up, did that reg rebuild eliminate all the reg creep? How's the m3 5 months later? Trying to decide whether or not to do the same.
The front regs are a little weird, they don't perform perfectly but we are getting no major creep, maybe 5 bar if left overnight but no more. the M3 has held up beautifully its now super accurate and works a treat, it took a lot of work but it was worth it in the end. Thanks for watching
@@sub12airgunners thanks for the video information. I really enjoy the content
Hi we’re do you get the orings from for the first reg I need the oring round the brass cup thanks
we use Bagnal & Kirkwood for all our parts
Just ordered yesterday lol thanks for getting back to me keep up the great vids
M3 with small plenum??? or Mk l converted to M3 with out upgrading the plenum.
It's a sub 12 gun so a small plenum is a good thing
👍
Would you recommend buying a used m2 over waiting for an m3?
Yes but get the power plenum version.
They are the same to me i have both a 25 cal 700mm mk2 and a m3 22cal 700mm and both guns are very accurate it just takes time setting them up to what you want to shoot if you want slugs its a little harder to get that sweet spot but pellets they both shoot them very accurate ... I like shooting slugs out of both guns the m3 is a bit easier to tune in my opinion but its the same both guns are awesome 👌
If its a good rifle for a good price, and sub 12 then yes, if its FAC then I would wait for the M3, the larger plenum for the FAC makes it more efficient and you can get a little more power out of it. Thanks for watching.
Who makes that rear bag rider?
that's us
I just got a saber tactical delete kit because I had a leak in the atmosphere breathing hole I changed the 0rings like three times I got it to stop leaking for now but I did receive my delete kit and if leaks again I'll install it and just do away with front reg ....it was a very slow leak but still it's was frustrating I run my reg high anyway at 200 bar so it's only holding 50 bar which is nothing I think it was leaking because the weather changed from.very hot to very cold here in texas usa lol also I probably had the leak already I watched Ernest rowe video on the front reg diagram so I checked the reg hole and it was leaking lol freaking Ernest I would of never knew anyways yup ill probably be installing the delete kit I'll see how it goes also I applied silicone lube and left the excess on instead of wiping it off I think that helps stop the leak but they 0rings
Good luck mate hope you get it sorted, A few people I know have fitted the reg delete with great success. Thanks for watching
@@sub12airgunners I installed the delete kit from saber and it was kinda scary I had to put the bottle on and off a couple times so the threads could get use to each other at one point I thought I had crossed threaded the bottle and the delete kit came all the way off so I had degas the bottle and use a wrench to take it off the bottle then put it back on the gun and tighter the crap out of it ..... inside the bottle where the threads are at those a little bit of debris so I think that's what caused it to get kind of stuck so I clean everything really well and put it on and filled with air and it's holding good 👍 and shooting good 👍 34 gr varmint knockers at 995 fps the recovery is awesome 👌
👍👍👍😁
Thanks for wacthing.
😁👌👏👏
Thanks for wacthing.
All the threads on my L2 were dry and difficult to crack open.
Can't understand why they don't assemble the guns with a dab of grease tbh.
Yeah same, stupidly tight screws.
Watching ED's videos it doesn't sound he is too keen on people taking apart his rifles. so I guess he doesn't want to make them too easy to take apart. Thanks for watching.
@@sub12airgunners This is why we love you.
The latest model impact with its customary problems....oh dear..
Too be honest its a good rifle and I am being super picky, plus taking the guns apart is half the fun for me. Thanks for watching.
Always some thing wrong with the guns you own !!! Its just you like to fxxk about with them
yes most just do away with the front reg and fit the huma delete, i persevered and got it to work don't see many M3's with the front reg still attached 🤡