It would be funnier just to put Ford's interviews and premier comments about this movie on the screen....he might play a president in this movie,but his lack of diplomacy is approaching legendary status😂
I love how they talk about how for a decade now Sam has stuggled to prove he's worth of the title of Captain America, along side homage covers of SteveRogers greatest hits. Like 'we want to legitimise Sam as Captain America, but his 10 years of being Captain America have been so unmemorable that we have to "homage" Steve's time as Cap'.
that's what I was thinking. I think that they sacrificed 2 heroes in this new version. we do not have captain america nor falcon but a bad mix that does not convice anyone but few normies and bad editors
I was always in that camp that DIDN'T want Grayson to take the mantle. For one, I'm tired of mantle swaps. But most importantly, the heroes become less special, if anyone can be them. Batman is a legend, but no one is discounting his apprentice, who has his own identity, and legacy. Making him Batman just cheapens them both.
@gabrielcarrasco9078 Dick was Batman twice, actually. Once after Azrael was "defeated" and gave up the Batman mantle...and another time right before the New 52
Marvel should just give the comics out at the theater, FREE with a ticket purchase. Then if it's raining outside as you exit the theater, you can always use it to keep the rain off your head.
I really like the original Red Hulk by Jeph Loeb... Other than that he really doesn't need to exist (coincidentally same thing goes for Red Hood for me, should have left him dead after Under the Hood if they didn't want to keep him a villain which would have been cool.)
I still say that the original idea of a movie for Captain America Versus The Serpent Society would've been a way better movie. The film could've gone something like this: Captain America (Steve Rogers) meets Diamondback II (Rachel Leighton) and at first, he fights her. But then, they become attracted to each other, and just like Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and the Black Cat (Felicia Hardy), they secretly become lovers despite being a super hero and a super-villainess, respectively. This causes the other members of the snake-based super-villain team called the Serpent Society to think that Diamondback has betrayed them by sleeping with the arch-enemy. This causes her to try to escape before the leader of the Serpent Society King Cobra (Klaus Voorhees) tries to have her murdered for being a traitor. But Diamondback's best friends and business partners, Asp (real name unrevealed, goes by the alias "Cleopatra "Cleo" Nefertiti") and Black Mamba (Tanya Sealy), betray their fellow members of the Serpent Society to try to help their ally and partner-in-crime. They are then joined by Sidewinder (Seth Voelker), Black Mamba's ex-boyfriend and the founder, and former leader of the Serpent Society many years ago, back when the team of serpent-based professional criminals used to work as mercenaries for the Roxxon Oil Company and were called the Serpent Squad. He helps them escape the current Serpent Society now led by his former second-in-command, Cobra. Cobra (now calling himself by the code-name King Cobra) then goes after Cap and the traitorous former Serpent Society members with his team of loyal super-villains, Rattler (Gustav Krueger), Cottonmouth II (Burchell Clemens), Bushmaster II (Quincy McIver), Anaconda (Blanche "Blondie" Sitznski), Puff Adder (Gordon "Gordo" Fraley), Death Adder (Roland Borroughs), Copperhead (Davis Lawfers), Fer-de-Lance (Teresa Vasquez), Boomslang (Marc Riemer), Black Racer (Ariana Siddiqi), Princess Python (Zelda DuBois), Constrictor (Frank Payne), Coachwhip (Beatrix Keener), Rock Python (M'Gula), Eel (Leopold Stryke), Pit Viper, a.k.a. Viper (Jordan Stryke), Madame Hydra, a.k.a. Viper II (Ophelia Sarkissian), and Slither (Aaron Salomon). Cap, Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Asp, and Diamondback are then joined by the mercenary Impala (pronounced "Impale-ah", real name unrevealed), and they all fight against the secret snake-based criminal organization in a major, large American city to not only stop them from killing their former members, but also trying to defeat the serpentine crime syndicate's criminal operations at their secret headquarters once and for all just as well. An action/fantasy/horror/sci-fi movie like that would've been freakin' awesome to see. Especially since it would've finally shown how much of a major badass that Captain America can be when he doesn't have to hold back and goes all out in a fight against a gang of brutal, ruthless superhumans. Also, Cap and Diamondback's relationship can be focused on and he could've moved on from Peggy Carter and Sharon Carter. And the movie or series of B.A.D. Girls, Inc. could even be a spin-off. So much good potential was lost because Disney and Marvel Studios let go of this one chance in a lifetime opportunity. Such a crying shame. What a waste.
I’m going. Looks interesting. Isaiah Bradley is in it,and maybe it will jumpstart Patriot. I love the Bradleys because they are more powerful than Steve. ( None of them were 4F)I like the super soldier stuff.
The reason Deadpool & Wolverine did so well is that Kevin Feige had nothing to do with it. No one even THOUGHT to ask Harrison Ford to grow or wear a mustache FFS! Falcon as Cap never made sense to me because the wings and the shield just don’t mix. Add in that they never give Falcon any form of the super soldier serum and that the stupidity of foisting a Cap minus a serum of some sort was explored in F&TWS. I still think Bucky as Cap working off his sins as The Winter Soldier with Falcon as the leader of a small group would be better. It’s too bad they can’t at least put in good writing. The character, Anthony Mackie, fans, and viewers of the movie deserve so much better.
This takes me back to 2022 when the leak grifters were trying to hype Brave New World up and only succeeding in making look like an absolute mess. It was a Hulk movie, then an X-Men movie and finally an Avengers movie. It was anything but a Captain America movie. It’s true, Captain America Civil War could be called Avengers 2.0 with Iron Man, Ant-Man, Spider-Man and Black Panther turning up. Despite this however, it was still Steve's movie. It was about him protecting his best friend, and only link to the past he has left, from the world. He didn’t care who got in his way, whether it was his friends, the law or the government. Captain America Brave New World on the other hand? It feels like Disney knows Sam has been rejected as Cap, so they’re shoehorning everyone in there for the sake of fanservice.
I agree with the idea that Falcon is a great character; Cap is a legendary character. Why not just have a solo Falcon movie without destroying the legend of Captain America? I would love to see Falcon's story on the big screen. I don't want to see him filling someone else's shoes.
Ah, Rulk. I remember that other thing that I hold against Jeph Loeb. Yep, Ultimatum, that story he wrote where Wolverine is revealed to be a dog and yes, Rulk. Man, I hate that character.
The only idea that could make the concept work, is a Team Cap title with a few of the other Captains introduced in the USoCA mini series. Sam can go back and forth with the US Agent for control of the team, bring a few of the diverse Captains back, and let them go after a new splinter cell of Hydra or the Serpent Society. Give the team their own legit shields and go from there...
We need a Death Of Captain America were Sam is killed off and Elijah Bradley aka. Patriot picks up the sheild with Steve mentoring him they could also bring his uncle Josiah X aka. Justice back to also help in training him.
@@bionicblackman4251 it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race the comic series itself didn't sell, and I'll tell you because this concept was already BEAUTIFULLY DONE with Ed Brubaker's Captain America run. When Bucky picked up the shield fans LOVED IT! because of how well done it was so when Falcon picked up the shield fans were like why!!?? this was done already
@brandonshuley3417 idk what comics youve been reading. His comics have sold well and many people enjoy him as cap. So i cant help but think ur just making things up
I always thought Red Hulk was a stupid character. If you’re that tiny percent that survive gamma rays is supposed to unleash what you think of yourself deep inside.
I don’t mind the idea of the “ending” of a Cap story if him passing the mantle onto Sam makes sense and concludes from there. But knowing the mainline big two for decades having the “forever narrative disease”, having the story focus on Sam with his own series is just a repeat of the “bring Miles into the 616” problem; repeating the same threats/conflicts of their predecessor. It just makes the audience bored and apathetic.
Giving Sam the shield doesn't even complement what he can do. Falcon's thing is flying while dodging everything since he's just a normal human. Shield can take hits but Sam can't. Steve can take a hit because he's superhuman, Sam turns into paste.
If Falcon as Falcon could not carry his own film or an ongoing comic series, why does changing his outfit make a difference? I’m not trying to be provocative, I honestly don’t get the thought process there.
I can't even remember what movie i saw in 2024 that i would call good -John wick 4 was goofy in the end -Wolverine and deadpool had some major flaws I keep hearing horrible things about gladiator 2. At least i saved some money But 2025 ? I don't see a single movoe worth caring about
I hope that Fantastic Four movie sucks too. They call us all racist sexist bigot for ten plus years because we don't like their trash news comics forgetting we're the ones who made the diverse sets of heroes from Marvel and DC into household names for decades. I got nothing but hate and spite left in my heart for Disney and Marvel. The more money and worse content they make the better.
I sometimes.....wonder if we put aside the emotional drama and leaned more into crazy hijinks.....more of Marvel's slop would be actually enjoyable. I mean there's only so many emotional arcs a franchise can display before things get stale or preachy....however putting characters in insane situations more often than not puts butts in seats.
The current MCU is now just sidekicks and never was characters kinda sad .....but red hulk had a great entrance into the marvel universe but over stayed and now he is a shell of the character he was and making thunderbolt a villain did help that....since he was just a projection of the military complex of a time passed.....
If they quit mentioning Steve rogers and pointing out his skin color, the story could develop. I want the story to be good and we all know bucky will get the shield eventually.
They're idiots - The only one who should have been cap temporarily is Bucky. Falcon literally used his wings as a shield before - keep him as falcon and have him fight more. Just make his wings have a star pattern when it closes up and let him work with Cap-bucky as an equal partner.
Did the Falcon get some secret super soldier serum that I don’t know about? Does he have a super suit like iron man that does more than just the wings? Cause he’s super strong and can fall to the ground from like a hundred stories. My knees would explode.
Looking at trailers for this new Captain America movie I do find it kind of interesting that it doesn’t visually look like what you’d expect a Marvel movie to look like. But I can’t believe someone gave Julius Onah MCU movie money to do some big blockbuster action movie. I mean, you ever see The Cloverfield Paradox? The Cloverfield Paradox has got to be one of the worst studio films to get a release in the last 14 years. And I don’t meant that in some kind of hyperbolic kind of way where people say this or that thing is the worst thing ever, that third Cloverfield movie is awful, and you can’t believe a studio made it a a theatrical release. You see The Cloverfield Paradox and you understand why Paramount didn’t release it, and you wonder why Netflix bought it afterwards. But somehow someone at Marvel saw that Cloverfield movie and figured it was a good idea give the guy that made it whatever Captain America 4 cost. I almost wonder if someone just heard the name Cloverfield and thought he was Dan Trachtenberg. Like: Oh, this is the guy that did the other Cloverfield movie, they must be talking about 10 Cloverfield Lane because that’s the only other Cloverfield movie I remember existing.
For FIFTEEN YEARS marvel comics has virtually IGNORED the movies. Downey’s performance as Tony Stark had literally made Ironman more popular than the character had ever been. Did Marvel try to capitalize on this popularity? No, they used it to foist Riri Williams on us. The Avengers were HUGE, and marvel gave us the All New, All Different (especially different from the movies) Marvel. NOW, now with Falcap, now they’re trying to create some synergy between the movies and the comics when there’s virtually no synergy to be had because NO-ONE likes Sam being Cap, especially a Captain America who’s constantly angsty about how racist America is and how awful America is.
Why can't they just let Sam be Falcon? That is his true superhero ID. He made the ID his own, and you can tell loads of stories with Sam as Falcon. What makes this even worse is that they are wasting Red Hulk and the Leader on this stupid film. Two villains who are more associated with Hulk and should be the main villains in a HULK movie!
He looks kind of silly with the shield. But at the same time, I don't like Bucky being alive, let alone getting the shield. Mass murdering assassin is not a cool origin for Captain America.
Lawyer: Have you ever heard about this TH-camr:Shortyrara ? Me: Yes, I have. Lawyer:You have ? Me: I gave him a plate of pizza to paint my room but he never did it. Shortyrara: That pizza was terrible. Me: Paint my Room ! Shortyrara: Make me ! A fight between us broke out.
Funny because I always thought that Falcon sucked until he became Captain America. Well, at the beginning I still thought he sucked lol...that is, until I actually read the All-New Captain America series, which was done very well in my opinion
@@Ihavethetouch 🥱I know exactly what it means, Mr. Special Ed. It's bad taste to give mass murderers who don't even trust themselves the Captain America mantle. Just accept it and stop whining your backwards azz opinion
Buck could have used this to redeem himself for his sins but let's give the mantle to the character who has no reason to take it on and then make a bad series dragging it out.
@@lobaoguara2332 It's what happened in the comics, Falcon took up the mantle for a while but never wanted it, I think he either gave it back personally or gave it to Bucky who gave it back, not sure anymore.
@@lobaoguara2332 I would argue Bucky had no sins. His mind wasn't in control of body, but he's still the type of guy to feel bad at his body being used as an Hitman. Like for the opposite team like Hydra. Plus he remembered what his body and controlled mind did under all that programming.
It annoys me that so many people want a mass murderer who even murdered the creator of the shield to actually be the MCU Captain America. Yey! Let's honor Tony's legacy by letting the guy who murdered his parents take up the shield his dad created🤡
The trailer viewership for Falcon Cap is less than most of Phase 4 and 5 trailers. Meaning thag it has little to no hype and only Word of mouth can save this movie.
Lol Sidekicks take over for their mentors all the time. Why was it not a problem when Nightwing became Batman, Wally West became Flash, Roy Harper became Red Arrow? But suddenly it's so bad when Sam takes over for Steve?
@@scinnycUmmm, those characters are pretty close to their mentors in what they can do? While Sam's thing is using technology to fly while Steve is a supersoldier? I didn't think it would be this hard to grasp. You're literally describing why Bucky should have been given the shield 😂
I’ve gotten to the point where I just collect some Marvel but I don’t read any of it. I wish I could quit collecting X-Men and Thor but there’s just the smallest amount of hope they’ll get their shit together. Other than that I certainly don’t give a fuck. I just put together the Nomad series from the 90s for less than $20. So much better than anything they’ve done in the last 6-8 years and it wasn’t exactly a banger when it came out
I just want to look at this and marvel recognizing the first draft of this movie was not gonna go well which is why they are doing all these reshoots. Remember, this was supposed to be picking up with what happened in Secret Invasion by having the skrulls being an allegory of immigrants (yeah let's overlook the fact that these shape shifters don't just take yours jobs, they take your life) while the president is all for causing a ban on them while also being a big raging red monster. It sounds like they completely threw that plot away and are just trying to salvage what they can and taking early reviews(like lack of good action or completely one sided politics) into account in these reshoots
If they just made a series called THE CAPTAINS featuring all the Captain American associated characters, as a well done Clandestine story of wet works and intrigue, while incorporating the fantastical aspect of the Marvel Universe, such as Cults, ETs and the paranormal, it could sell. But as long as they keep just one character as a lead and offering CIA-Esque stories that are boring within the Marvel Universe... Nada. People want to see an elite supersoldier task force who respresent humanity, investigating all these otherwordly threat. See: ORIGINAL SIN with Nick Fury as an example of the kind of operations I'm discussing, and Winter Soldier later becoming the "man on the wall". dropping those story builds was a huge mistake.
It's the election results. Dead ass. There's no way they'd sink even MORE money with reshoots this late instead of just taking the L and letting it bomb. UNLESS, there is something in there that (in Disney's eyes) could damage the ENTIRE Marvel brand in a post landslide Trump victory America. All of entertainment is trying to come to Jesus right now. These reshoots are part of it. Bet. They're gonna make the Cap box office bomb even harder with reshoot budget just to desperately (at least) not make Marvel totally radioactive.
So instead of riding off of the hype and the billion dollars made by Wolverine and Deadpool, Marvel/Disney would rather push Captain Falcon? Marketing common sense says they should have done an X-men movie connecting to Wolverine
I like Falcon Cap in comics but I despise Red Hulk concept. Why bring this character back? Leave Thunderbolt Ross alone. All these books will sucks in my opinion.
The Winter Soldier made a better Captain America than Falcon. Is Marvel still pushing this story out of spite? Is this being pursued to bury Ed Brubaker's writing contributions?
Lol 🌪😆 Not an iota You're a kind soul tho ❤ He happily willingly did Indy 5 😅 He naively unwittingly campaigned for more minor sex-changes 😂 (😢) He didn't need an MCU check 😹
Coming from someone who, in theory, this is being marketed to, I don't want to see this. Sure, Anthony Mackie "looks like me", and I'm not a "self hater" or anything, but as a comicbook fan, I'm a big fan of iconography and not devaluing heroes. Nolan got it wrong. No, anyone can't be Batman. Can they be heroes? Sure, but anyone can't be Batman. Same for Superman, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Iron Man, and many others, including Captain America. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Just passing on the gimmick cheapens him, and it cheapens Sam Wilson. What they're saying is, he couldn't get over as Falcon, and he's only legitimate, if he's taking the legendary white guy's gimmick. Two characters made to look less valuable. And people will inevitably cry racism, but that couldn't be further from the truth. The same goes for Dick Grayson, Artemis, Roy Harper, Mon El, Ben Reilly, etc. It doesn't matter if it's another white guy or girl, it's lazy to just slap on a slightly recolored version of the main event hero's costume, and expect to get to their level. Sam could've just been himself, put the shield on display, out of respect for his friend, maybe even used it, in a climactic moment, as an homage to Steve, and not try to imitate him. Besides, remember "All New, All Different"? It bombed. If it failed in the comics, you expect it to work, with a larger audience? DC found this out, when adapting New 52. It drove off audiences in droves, in comic stores, and then someone thought adapting it would work. It didn't.
This is so strange, I only wrote this as a test. I had a comment deleted earlier because I wrote that company name, I just removed that name & then the comment was allowed. But here I can write it, I just don’t understand how the algorithm works, it will delete a comment when you use words in a certain way, but I don’t understand what that is.
What 'good' have you heard about the FF movie? Because everything I've heard is terrible: a female Silver Surfer, for one, and it stars mr 'republicans are nazis' as Reed Richards - two of my favorite comic book characters ruined before the movie is even completed, imo
the concept of turning General Ross into a hulk is just boring. Banner has enough monsters he fights, so turning his main human antagonists into another physical threat is not that interesting.
How can anyone say falcon and captain America book series sucks if comic fans used there common sense all fucking comics have same dam theme good vs bad hood wins in end all time different characters all fricking time nothing ever changes same stupid story same stupid plot good vs bad different characters all time bad want rule world or kill hero goood wins
This movie is the sunk cost fallacy in practice. When you're in a hole, stop digging. Nobody cares about Falcon-Cap. Nobody care about Red Hulk. No amount of reshoots is going to fix this.
"one of the funniest stories" more fun is for noun, as in "you'll have more fun reading manga… while it's still great", funnier and funniest is for adj., as in "dandadan is the single funniest manga out there right now that I'd recommend"
@Ihavethetouch I'd say that no way home is infinitely better of a movie than Deadpool and wolverine. But we're talking about a very low bar here. There isn't many of these movies that I would call good even the ones people praise. With comic book movies especially the marvel movies we have an incredibly low bar and we always have.
Black captain America , black iron man , black kang , black spider man ( miles ) , mostly black what if , black wonderman , nick fury ( but but ) ect . But you're a bigot if you hate it . DC is no better . Kinda feels like a agenda is at work ... Nahhhhh
Bucky is the only hero with a claim to the Captain America mantle. IDGAF about the MCU as it should have zero bearing on the comics. The MCU is not and never will be the 616, sorry.
I mean this was just getting annoying empathetic nobody cares about and ask Captain America and nobody cares about Red Hulk You know he hasn't been relevant since the World War Hulk stuff like to even think about making a Captain America movie without Captain America or the Hulk and then do books about two of the lesser known characters of those mantels that nobody cares about is kind of pathetic
So we're doing "Not my Cap!" In real life now? The problem with the MCU is they are afraid to recast. Warner Bros will recast their characters in a minute. Substandard is the new standard now. Wes doesn't like Mark Waid because of his behavior. Well, that man can write his ass off.
If Red Hulk catches Falcon Cap’s shield and doesn’t say “This belongs in a museum!” I’m walking out.
LoL that would be hilarious
It would be funnier just to put Ford's interviews and premier comments about this movie on the screen....he might play a president in this movie,but his lack of diplomacy is approaching legendary status😂
I love how they talk about how for a decade now Sam has stuggled to prove he's worth of the title of Captain America, along side homage covers of SteveRogers greatest hits. Like 'we want to legitimise Sam as Captain America, but his 10 years of being Captain America have been so unmemorable that we have to "homage" Steve's time as Cap'.
And that will continue to be the case because they're not gonna get rid of Steve Rogers as mainstream Cap any time soon.
Dick Grayson is still the perfect Legacy to hero character we have gotten. And it felt earned. They took their time and didnt make him another Batman.
that's what I was thinking. I think that they sacrificed 2 heroes in this new version. we do not have captain america nor falcon but a bad mix that does not convice anyone but few normies and bad editors
I was always in that camp that DIDN'T want Grayson to take the mantle. For one, I'm tired of mantle swaps. But most importantly, the heroes become less special, if anyone can be them. Batman is a legend, but no one is discounting his apprentice, who has his own identity, and legacy. Making him Batman just cheapens them both.
@waynetech10 Dick only became Batman once. And it was because they didn't want others to know he was gone. But he's always been Knightwing.
@gabrielcarrasco9078 Dick was Batman twice, actually. Once after Azrael was "defeated" and gave up the Batman mantle...and another time right before the New 52
Marvel should just give the comics out at the theater, FREE with a ticket purchase. Then if it's raining outside as you exit the theater, you can always use it to keep the rain off your head.
I really like the original Red Hulk by Jeph Loeb... Other than that he really doesn't need to exist (coincidentally same thing goes for Red Hood for me, should have left him dead after Under the Hood if they didn't want to keep him a villain which would have been cool.)
Jeff Parker's run following up Leob/McGuiness' run is quite good. And redeems the character. Also Gabe Hardiman's art kills it to.
Red Hulk sucks. Loeb writting was awful.
This movie has been an entire clusterf*ck. The happy meal toys were at McDonald's 6 months ago!
This sounds insane! No way it makes half its money back.
Falcon Cap.. meh
Falcon was great on his own.
Falcon and Bucky is ok but Captain AfricanAmerican is a No.
Captain America mantle shouldn't have been passed. Sam could have led as Falcon.
Man that would've been awesome. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier should've been a movie not a show.
I still say that the original idea of a movie for Captain America Versus The Serpent Society would've been a way better movie. The film could've gone something like this:
Captain America (Steve Rogers) meets Diamondback II (Rachel Leighton) and at first, he fights her. But then, they become attracted to each other, and just like Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and the Black Cat (Felicia Hardy), they secretly become lovers despite being a super hero and a super-villainess, respectively.
This causes the other members of the snake-based super-villain team called the Serpent Society to think that Diamondback has betrayed them by sleeping with the arch-enemy. This causes her to try to escape before the leader of the Serpent Society King Cobra (Klaus Voorhees) tries to have her murdered for being a traitor. But Diamondback's best friends and business partners, Asp (real name unrevealed, goes by the alias "Cleopatra "Cleo" Nefertiti") and Black Mamba (Tanya Sealy), betray their fellow members of the Serpent Society to try to help their ally and partner-in-crime.
They are then joined by Sidewinder (Seth Voelker), Black Mamba's ex-boyfriend and the founder, and former leader of the Serpent Society many years ago, back when the team of serpent-based professional criminals used to work as mercenaries for the Roxxon Oil Company and were called the Serpent Squad. He helps them escape the current Serpent Society now led by his former second-in-command, Cobra.
Cobra (now calling himself by the code-name King Cobra) then goes after Cap and the traitorous former Serpent Society members with his team of loyal super-villains, Rattler (Gustav Krueger), Cottonmouth II (Burchell Clemens), Bushmaster II (Quincy McIver), Anaconda (Blanche "Blondie" Sitznski), Puff Adder (Gordon "Gordo" Fraley), Death Adder (Roland Borroughs), Copperhead (Davis Lawfers), Fer-de-Lance (Teresa Vasquez), Boomslang (Marc Riemer), Black Racer (Ariana Siddiqi), Princess Python (Zelda DuBois), Constrictor (Frank Payne), Coachwhip (Beatrix Keener), Rock Python (M'Gula), Eel (Leopold Stryke), Pit Viper, a.k.a. Viper (Jordan Stryke), Madame Hydra, a.k.a. Viper II (Ophelia Sarkissian), and Slither (Aaron Salomon).
Cap, Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Asp, and Diamondback are then joined by the mercenary Impala (pronounced "Impale-ah", real name unrevealed), and they all fight against the secret snake-based criminal organization in a major, large American city to not only stop them from killing their former members, but also trying to defeat the serpentine crime syndicate's criminal operations at their secret headquarters once and for all just as well.
An action/fantasy/horror/sci-fi movie like that would've been freakin' awesome to see. Especially since it would've finally shown how much of a major badass that Captain America can be when he doesn't have to hold back and goes all out in a fight against a gang of brutal, ruthless superhumans. Also, Cap and Diamondback's relationship can be focused on and he could've moved on from Peggy Carter and Sharon Carter. And the movie or series of B.A.D. Girls, Inc. could even be a spin-off. So much good potential was lost because Disney and Marvel Studios let go of this one chance in a lifetime opportunity. Such a crying shame. What a waste.
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@hoangnamtran8813 You okay? You don't seem okay. Lots of vomit. You should get that checked out.
Yeah Wes, Red Hulk aside, any comic with Deathlock AND Machine Man has got to have something going for it!
I should have elaborated more on that. Good call.
The best part of Haylee Seinfelds Kate Bishop is that she was humbled, made me like her much more
They should have Falcon lead a 'wing' of the Avengers that specialize in recon, air attack etc
I’m going. Looks interesting. Isaiah Bradley is in it,and maybe it will jumpstart Patriot. I love the Bradleys because they are more powerful than Steve. ( None of them were 4F)I like the super soldier stuff.
I’m glad you find asm #61 interesting. The beginning of it felt generic, but it did in fact get better near the cliffhanger.
The reason Deadpool & Wolverine did so well is that Kevin Feige had nothing to do with it.
No one even THOUGHT to ask Harrison Ford to grow or wear a mustache FFS!
Falcon as Cap never made sense to me because the wings and the shield just don’t mix. Add in that they never give Falcon any form of the super soldier serum and that the stupidity of foisting a Cap minus a serum of some sort was explored in F&TWS.
I still think Bucky as Cap working off his sins as The Winter Soldier with Falcon as the leader of a small group would be better.
It’s too bad they can’t at least put in good writing. The character, Anthony Mackie, fans, and viewers of the movie deserve so much better.
This takes me back to 2022 when the leak grifters were trying to hype Brave New World up and only succeeding in making look like an absolute mess. It was a Hulk movie, then an X-Men movie and finally an Avengers movie. It was anything but a Captain America movie.
It’s true, Captain America Civil War could be called Avengers 2.0 with Iron Man, Ant-Man, Spider-Man and Black Panther turning up. Despite this however, it was still Steve's movie. It was about him protecting his best friend, and only link to the past he has left, from the world. He didn’t care who got in his way, whether it was his friends, the law or the government.
Captain America Brave New World on the other hand? It feels like Disney knows Sam has been rejected as Cap, so they’re shoehorning everyone in there for the sake of fanservice.
I agree with the idea that Falcon is a great character; Cap is a legendary character. Why not just have a solo Falcon movie without destroying the legend of Captain America? I would love to see Falcon's story on the big screen. I don't want to see him filling someone else's shoes.
I get why people don't like Red Hulk, but I'm interested in that upcoming book of his. Hopefully it's good and it uses Doom in an interesting way.
Ah, Rulk. I remember that other thing that I hold against Jeph Loeb. Yep, Ultimatum, that story he wrote where Wolverine is revealed to be a dog and yes, Rulk. Man, I hate that character.
Don’t forget Ultimates 3
Wasn't Ultimatum where The Blob ate The Wasp and Giant Man bit his head off?
I'm usually down to try an issue 1, but don't even think I'll buy #1 on this
putting Ororo, Cody and the other character on the cover just feels ichy
Same thing will happen with the version of silver surfer they’re going with
The only idea that could make the concept work, is a Team Cap title with a few of the other Captains introduced in the USoCA mini series. Sam can go back and forth with the US Agent for control of the team, bring a few of the diverse Captains back, and let them go after a new splinter cell of Hydra or the Serpent Society. Give the team their own legit shields and go from there...
Dude,Evan Narcisse’s Rise of the Black Panther was great!
We need a Death Of Captain America were Sam is killed off and Elijah Bradley aka. Patriot picks up the sheild with Steve mentoring him they could also bring his uncle Josiah X aka. Justice back to also help in training him.
Falcon Cap sucks.
Give him drugs! He suck less! Super Soldier Serum!
Falcon is not Cap
racist
@@bionicblackman4251 it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race the comic series itself didn't sell, and I'll tell you because this concept was already BEAUTIFULLY DONE with Ed Brubaker's Captain America run. When Bucky picked up the shield fans LOVED IT! because of how well done it was so when Falcon picked up the shield fans were like why!!?? this was done already
@brandonshuley3417 idk what comics youve been reading. His comics have sold well and many people enjoy him as cap. So i cant help but think ur just making things up
I always thought Red Hulk was a stupid character. If you’re that tiny percent that survive gamma rays is supposed to unleash what you think of yourself deep inside.
Technically he's not a gamma mutate.....not purely.
He's generally a hulk created from cosmic radiation....mostly.
The problems is they have too many back up characters as the main characters in the mcu now. You can’t have all these cap stories without Cap.
Captain America: Brave New World will bomb. So many reshoots.
Should have given him the power of sight thru all birds. Add the vibranium suit and it would have been just fine without the cap part
I don’t mind the idea of the “ending” of a Cap story if him passing the mantle onto Sam makes sense and concludes from there. But knowing the mainline big two for decades having the “forever narrative disease”, having the story focus on Sam with his own series is just a repeat of the “bring Miles into the 616” problem; repeating the same threats/conflicts of their predecessor. It just makes the audience bored and apathetic.
Giving Sam the shield doesn't even complement what he can do. Falcon's thing is flying while dodging everything since he's just a normal human. Shield can take hits but Sam can't. Steve can take a hit because he's superhuman, Sam turns into paste.
Agreed!!!!!!!
100%, great post 📫👍
@@IhavethetouchYep ✅️
If Falcon as Falcon could not carry his own film or an ongoing comic series, why does changing his outfit make a difference? I’m not trying to be provocative, I honestly don’t get the thought process there.
And tbh how long is falcon cap gonna last? Until secret wars ? When they bring back steve lmao
I can't even remember what movie i saw in 2024 that i would call good
-John wick 4 was goofy in the end
-Wolverine and deadpool had some major flaws
I keep hearing horrible things about gladiator 2.
At least i saved some money
But 2025 ?
I don't see a single movoe worth caring about
I hope that Fantastic Four movie sucks too. They call us all racist sexist bigot for ten plus years because we don't like their trash news comics forgetting we're the ones who made the diverse sets of heroes from Marvel and DC into household names for decades.
I got nothing but hate and spite left in my heart for Disney and Marvel. The more money and worse content they make the better.
👏 Always so great to see a fan with integrity!
May F4 lose millions
May the Mouse get trapped 🐁🪤
I thought homage covers were cool at first. But they have beat it to death just like the variant gimmick. I’m done with both.
I sometimes.....wonder if we put aside the emotional drama and leaned more into crazy hijinks.....more of Marvel's slop would be actually enjoyable.
I mean there's only so many emotional arcs a franchise can display before things get stale or preachy....however putting characters in insane situations more often than not puts butts in seats.
The current MCU is now just sidekicks and never was characters kinda sad .....but red hulk had a great entrance into the marvel universe but over stayed and now he is a shell of the character he was and making thunderbolt a villain did help that....since he was just a projection of the military complex of a time passed.....
Marvel just needs to give up with legacy characters like Falcon Crap. They just don’t have the talent for that like DC’s record in that department.
The only reason this movie was made was to replace the white Captain America. That's it.
Facts
So what was Bucky Cap? Or John Walker Cap? Or the other four or five other replacement Captain Americas?
@@toddholland7511Most of them have similar power sets, it's the differences in their characters that make them unique
If they quit mentioning Steve rogers and pointing out his skin color, the story could develop. I want the story to be good and we all know bucky will get the shield eventually.
Can we just get a good Cap comic. I mean geez. Cap hasn't had a good comic for over a decade. Why do they hate Steve so much.
They're idiots - The only one who should have been cap temporarily is Bucky. Falcon literally used his wings as a shield before - keep him as falcon and have him fight more. Just make his wings have a star pattern when it closes up and let him work with Cap-bucky as an equal partner.
Did the Falcon get some secret super soldier serum that I don’t know about? Does he have a super suit like iron man that does more than just the wings? Cause he’s super strong and can fall to the ground from like a hundred stories. My knees would explode.
Looking at trailers for this new Captain America movie I do find it kind of interesting that it doesn’t visually look like what you’d expect a Marvel movie to look like. But I can’t believe someone gave Julius Onah MCU movie money to do some big blockbuster action movie. I mean, you ever see The Cloverfield Paradox? The Cloverfield Paradox has got to be one of the worst studio films to get a release in the last 14 years. And I don’t meant that in some kind of hyperbolic kind of way where people say this or that thing is the worst thing ever, that third Cloverfield movie is awful, and you can’t believe a studio made it a a theatrical release. You see The Cloverfield Paradox and you understand why Paramount didn’t release it, and you wonder why Netflix bought it afterwards. But somehow someone at Marvel saw that Cloverfield movie and figured it was a good idea give the guy that made it whatever Captain America 4 cost.
I almost wonder if someone just heard the name Cloverfield and thought he was Dan Trachtenberg. Like: Oh, this is the guy that did the other Cloverfield movie, they must be talking about 10 Cloverfield Lane because that’s the only other Cloverfield movie I remember existing.
For FIFTEEN YEARS marvel comics has virtually IGNORED the movies. Downey’s performance as Tony Stark had literally made Ironman more popular than the character had ever been. Did Marvel try to capitalize on this popularity? No, they used it to foist Riri Williams on us. The Avengers were HUGE, and marvel gave us the All New, All Different (especially different from the movies) Marvel.
NOW, now with Falcap, now they’re trying to create some synergy between the movies and the comics when there’s virtually no synergy to be had because NO-ONE likes Sam being Cap, especially a Captain America who’s constantly angsty about how racist America is and how awful America is.
The MCU is as close to dead but still be alive as you can get.
It really amazes me that people take whatever that balding weirdo Kevin Feige says at face value. Dude has lost all credibility over the years.
@@MrDman21Remember when he said that seeing the Marvels together was like seeing the Avengers assemble for the first time? 🤣
@@cahe6161 ha ha 😄
Why can't they just let Sam be Falcon? That is his true superhero ID. He made the ID his own, and you can tell loads of stories with Sam as Falcon. What makes this even worse is that they are wasting Red Hulk and the Leader on this stupid film. Two villains who are more associated with Hulk and should be the main villains in a HULK movie!
Wes is too easy on all these foreign artists and their speed art.
It makes no sense to adapt this because it only happened for about 2 years
He looks kind of silly with the shield. But at the same time, I don't like Bucky being alive, let alone getting the shield. Mass murdering assassin is not a cool origin for Captain America.
Bucky wants always the Winter Soldier, so his origin isn't him being an assassin
Lawyer: Have you ever heard about this TH-camr:Shortyrara ?
Me: Yes, I have.
Lawyer:You have ?
Me: I gave him a plate of pizza to paint my room but he never did it.
Shortyrara: That pizza was terrible.
Me: Paint my Room !
Shortyrara: Make me !
A fight between us broke out.
6:59 This seems like sacrilege.
Who is interested in seeing Marvel's take on the X-Men franchise ?
Not me. X-Men 97 are the only team version that's valid for me now.
@EvandroACruz I fear of what may come next for that show after they fired the lead writer for misconduct.
I wish you the best.
@@spinningtornado4543 I just hope Marvel don't screw with the cartoon. Would be very stupid.
@@EvandroACruz Being very stupid has been Marvel's trademark for the X-Men franchise these past 5 years.
@@spinningtornado4543 In comics yes.Let's see if the cartoon will keep the same quality like the first season.
Funny because I always thought that Falcon sucked until he became Captain America. Well, at the beginning I still thought he sucked lol...that is, until I actually read the All-New Captain America series, which was done very well in my opinion
It's completely okay to have bad taste
@@Ihavethetouch How can you talk about bad taste when you wanna give the most honored title on Earth to mass murderer lol
@@scinnycGo check what that term means first, genius
@@Ihavethetouch 🥱I know exactly what it means, Mr. Special Ed. It's bad taste to give mass murderers who don't even trust themselves the Captain America mantle. Just accept it and stop whining your backwards azz opinion
Captain America mantle in the MCU should have gone to Winter Solider and not Falcon in Avengers: Endgame. Still annoys me.
Buck could have used this to redeem himself for his sins but let's give the mantle to the character who has no reason to take it on and then make a bad series dragging it out.
@@lobaoguara2332 It's what happened in the comics, Falcon took up the mantle for a while but never wanted it, I think he either gave it back personally or gave it to Bucky who gave it back, not sure anymore.
@@lobaoguara2332 I would argue Bucky had no sins. His mind wasn't in control of body, but he's still the type of guy to feel bad at his body being used as an Hitman. Like for the opposite team like Hydra. Plus he remembered what his body and controlled mind did under all that programming.
It annoys me that so many people want a mass murderer who even murdered the creator of the shield to actually be the MCU Captain America. Yey! Let's honor Tony's legacy by letting the guy who murdered his parents take up the shield his dad created🤡
@@scinnyc Because him becoming Captain America would be his chance to atone for the things he did while being brainwashed.
Also what doesn't makes sense is the sparks on the shield, a fist hitting it wouldn't cause any sparks
Red Hulk has fire powers
I've never been a fan of Red Hulk. It was a stupid idea.
The trailer viewership for Falcon Cap is less than most of Phase 4 and 5 trailers. Meaning thag it has little to no hype and only Word of mouth can save this movie.
So when are we getting white Black Panther? If you can simply change any hero with another, why not do that as well?
You forgot White Wolf
"Ah, that's neat point, main Faiggy question - how it can help virtue signaling to MsheU" .... Shuri Black Panther, i hope you ready for it
Lol Sidekicks take over for their mentors all the time. Why was it not a problem when Nightwing became Batman, Wally West became Flash, Roy Harper became Red Arrow? But suddenly it's so bad when Sam takes over for Steve?
@scinnyc it was the way and reason why they did it that has fans in outrage. Also less interesting or good stories with him.
@@scinnycUmmm, those characters are pretty close to their mentors in what they can do? While Sam's thing is using technology to fly while Steve is a supersoldier? I didn't think it would be this hard to grasp.
You're literally describing why Bucky should have been given the shield 😂
I’ve gotten to the point where I just collect some Marvel but I don’t read any of it. I wish I could quit collecting X-Men and Thor but there’s just the smallest amount of hope they’ll get their shit together. Other than that I certainly don’t give a fuck. I just put together the Nomad series from the 90s for less than $20. So much better than anything they’ve done in the last 6-8 years and it wasn’t exactly a banger when it came out
Super heroes are passe. Crime and monsters is the way to go
I just want to look at this and marvel recognizing the first draft of this movie was not gonna go well which is why they are doing all these reshoots. Remember, this was supposed to be picking up with what happened in Secret Invasion by having the skrulls being an allegory of immigrants (yeah let's overlook the fact that these shape shifters don't just take yours jobs, they take your life) while the president is all for causing a ban on them while also being a big raging red monster. It sounds like they completely threw that plot away and are just trying to salvage what they can and taking early reviews(like lack of good action or completely one sided politics) into account in these reshoots
Wonder how many more flops before the come to their senses & reboot the franchise. No idea why they’re continuing with all the big characters gone.
Will the Serpent Society appear and be the ones to defeat Red Hulk?
If they just made a series called THE CAPTAINS featuring all the Captain American associated characters, as a well done Clandestine story of wet works and intrigue, while incorporating the fantastical aspect of the Marvel Universe, such as Cults, ETs and the paranormal, it could sell.
But as long as they keep just one character as a lead and offering CIA-Esque stories that are boring within the Marvel Universe... Nada.
People want to see an elite supersoldier task force who respresent humanity, investigating all these otherwordly threat.
See: ORIGINAL SIN with Nick Fury as an example of the kind of operations I'm discussing, and Winter Soldier later becoming the "man on the wall".
dropping those story builds was a huge mistake.
Sam was better when he was falcon
It's the election results. Dead ass. There's no way they'd sink even MORE money with reshoots this late instead of just taking the L and letting it bomb. UNLESS, there is something in there that (in Disney's eyes) could damage the ENTIRE Marvel brand in a post landslide Trump victory America. All of entertainment is trying to come to Jesus right now. These reshoots are part of it. Bet. They're gonna make the Cap box office bomb even harder with reshoot budget just to desperately (at least) not make Marvel totally radioactive.
Bucky should've been Cap.
So instead of riding off of the hype and the billion dollars made by Wolverine and Deadpool, Marvel/Disney would rather push Captain Falcon? Marketing common sense says they should have done an X-men movie connecting to Wolverine
I like Falcon Cap in comics but I despise Red Hulk concept. Why bring this character back? Leave Thunderbolt Ross alone. All these books will sucks in my opinion.
how much did presidential election influence the movie and marvel?
But how will we have a bLaCK cAptain Merica!! We need him to be black. Why make a movie if he ISNT Black! Nobody like it but we neeeeeed it
A movie nobody asked for featuring a character no one likes. Great job Marvel!
That's MCU. Agatha, Ironheart... who the F asked for those characters to get a show??
I liked Falcon. But ye they butchered him in his own tv series
The Winter Soldier made a better Captain America than Falcon. Is Marvel still pushing this story out of spite? Is this being pursued to bury Ed Brubaker's writing contributions?
Why can’t falcon just be……. Falcon?
you have to admire their dedication, they're willing to lose half a billion on a virtue signal over a black Cap
This and Snow White is going to be crap.
This Mini - cap is too powerful, out of character and almost cartoonish ... 🦃🦃🦆
I kinda feel sorry for Harrison Ford
Lmao nope
Why?
He's a drunk douche bag who doesn't care and he doesn't like you
Lol 🌪😆 Not an iota
You're a kind soul tho ❤
He happily willingly did Indy 5 😅
He naively unwittingly campaigned for more minor sex-changes 😂 (😢)
He didn't need an MCU check 😹
Coming from someone who, in theory, this is being marketed to, I don't want to see this. Sure, Anthony Mackie "looks like me", and I'm not a "self hater" or anything, but as a comicbook fan, I'm a big fan of iconography and not devaluing heroes. Nolan got it wrong. No, anyone can't be Batman. Can they be heroes? Sure, but anyone can't be Batman. Same for Superman, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Iron Man, and many others, including Captain America. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Just passing on the gimmick cheapens him, and it cheapens Sam Wilson. What they're saying is, he couldn't get over as Falcon, and he's only legitimate, if he's taking the legendary white guy's gimmick. Two characters made to look less valuable.
And people will inevitably cry racism, but that couldn't be further from the truth. The same goes for Dick Grayson, Artemis, Roy Harper, Mon El, Ben Reilly, etc. It doesn't matter if it's another white guy or girl, it's lazy to just slap on a slightly recolored version of the main event hero's costume, and expect to get to their level. Sam could've just been himself, put the shield on display, out of respect for his friend, maybe even used it, in a climactic moment, as an homage to Steve, and not try to imitate him.
Besides, remember "All New, All Different"? It bombed. If it failed in the comics, you expect it to work, with a larger audience? DC found this out, when adapting New 52. It drove off audiences in droves, in comic stores, and then someone thought adapting it would work. It didn't.
That was a very thoughtful and sincere post about all of this nonsense. Thank you 👍
Is Dok unfiltered on patreon an actual selling point? Or driving people away haha.
This is so strange, I only wrote this as a test. I had a comment deleted earlier because I wrote that company name, I just removed that name & then the comment was allowed.
But here I can write it, I just don’t understand how the algorithm works, it will delete a comment when you use words in a certain way, but I don’t understand what that is.
What 'good' have you heard about the FF movie? Because everything I've heard is terrible: a female Silver Surfer, for one, and it stars mr 'republicans are nazis' as Reed Richards - two of my favorite comic book characters ruined before the movie is even completed, imo
the concept of turning General Ross into a hulk is just boring.
Banner has enough monsters he fights, so turning his main human antagonists into another physical threat is not that interesting.
This film would of bankrupted Kamala Harris
Before she wasted her money on film star endorsements
Lol!😂
Yes definitely 💸
And Kamala and Cap4 share Harrison Ford in common lmao 🤣 😂 😆 😅 😹
How can anyone say falcon and captain America book series sucks if comic fans used there common sense all fucking comics have same dam theme good vs bad hood wins in end all time different characters all fricking time nothing ever changes same stupid story same stupid plot good vs bad different characters all time bad want rule world or kill hero goood wins
Please learn grammar
This movie is the sunk cost fallacy in practice. When you're in a hole, stop digging. Nobody cares about Falcon-Cap. Nobody care about Red Hulk. No amount of reshoots is going to fix this.
Great not Captain African American again 😂😂😂😂
This "woke" bonfire shall be glorious.
This is why I'm sticking with The Batman Saga the MCU can crash and burn for all I care. It got boring after Age of Ultron anyway.
I hate the MCU connection to the comics it’s trash!
The mcu destroyed marvel comics change my mind
half billion dollar captain crap movie
"one of the funniest stories"
more fun is for noun, as in "you'll have more fun reading manga… while it's still great", funnier and funniest is for adj., as in "dandadan is the single funniest manga out there right now that I'd recommend"
Deapool wolverine wasnt a good movie. It was entertaining and a complete joke. Calling it good, is incredibly dishonest
It was like No Way Home. Cameos and nostalgia while the movie itself is just...there
@Ihavethetouch I'd say that no way home is infinitely better of a movie than Deadpool and wolverine. But we're talking about a very low bar here. There isn't many of these movies that I would call good even the ones people praise. With comic book movies especially the marvel movies we have an incredibly low bar and we always have.
@@jonathansoko1085 I know I watched NWH just for returning characters from Raimi films.
Black captain America , black iron man , black kang , black spider man ( miles ) , mostly black what if , black wonderman , nick fury ( but but ) ect .
But you're a bigot if you hate it .
DC is no better .
Kinda feels like a agenda is at work ...
Nahhhhh
Barve New World 😂
Bucky is the only hero with a claim to the Captain America mantle. IDGAF about the MCU as it should have zero bearing on the comics. The MCU is not and never will be the 616, sorry.
I mean this was just getting annoying empathetic nobody cares about and ask Captain America and nobody cares about Red Hulk You know he hasn't been relevant since the World War Hulk stuff like to even think about making a Captain America movie without Captain America or the Hulk and then do books about two of the lesser known characters of those mantels that nobody cares about is kind of pathetic
So we're doing "Not my Cap!" In real life now? The problem with the MCU is they are afraid to recast. Warner Bros will recast their characters in a minute. Substandard is the new standard now. Wes doesn't like Mark Waid because of his behavior. Well, that man can write his ass off.
Mark is still a jerk.