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The Obsession of Pedro Bravo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2020
- Pedro Bravo dated Erica Friman in high school, however when she left for college in Gainesville, she began dating Pedro Bravo's best friend, Christian Aguilar. Pedro wasn't best pleased, developed a dark obsession, and followed them to Gainesville.
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When you date someone who’s obsessive you have to cut all contact. No staying in touch, no “checking in”. Just leave and never look back.
Sadly I feel like most teenagers want the "lets still be friends" ending
@Christina Albright that’s not at all what the comment is about tho...
@Christina Albright Careful there honey, you're sounding like a psychopath. Learn to take rejection and move on, or get a cat 😁
@Christina Albright Get help
@@CovidConQuitTheCensorship Why do you hate cats?
I grew up in a small town where everyone knew each other. When I was about 8 years old, I saw a man with a cane who dragged one leg when he walked. I asked my Mother what was wrong with him and she told me that he had tried to kill himself and had not succeeded. Then I asked her why he had tried to kill himself, and she told me that his girlfriend had broken up with him. I remember saying that he must have really loved her to do that. Then she said something that I’ll never forget. She said “No, he was mentally ill. That’s not something you do when you love someone.”
@Your Mom Bruh. It was actually an interesting story with a valid point.
THIS
@@UncleKazzy just wanted to let you know 15h later, your comment has 23 Likes and Mr. Negativity has 0. ☺️
Make that 83 likes for the O.P. and 32 likes for JestersNation. Mr. Negativiy has one like. He probably did that himself.
Wow. True
I like how how in some departments the police wasn't born yesterday but in others when they are handling cases it seems like they were literally spawned into existence that day lol
And just before midnight on top of that!
Its much worse when you have to do your own detective work because local law is a joke and blatantly corrupt
Always the Canadian police it seems … lol
@@J_M3444 Canada, Ohio, and pretty much the whole south us
Lmao
His journal is like him writing out how to act like a regular human being. Even his walk to the stand is like "I will walk to the stand, confident but not too confident......"
Jesus that guy is terrifying... every time he talks about that night he smiles, smirks and chuckles the whole time! It's not a nervous smile, it's a proud smile.
“Duping Delight”
Yep, delighted with himself. Complete psychopath.
Seriously freaky. You think he would try and act panicked if he had really accidently killed his friend like he claimed?! Any normal person would feel so guilty?? But instead he just shows how happy and calm he is. Disgusting and terrifying
He’ll definitely be smiling nervously in prison when that cell door closes behind him while his cell mate is smiling proudly at him
Well from his point of view his friend had betrayed him an got with the girl he loved. Call him crazy all you want I doubt he cares.
The fact he thought he was going to kill this kid and then get the girl back is the scariest part. He literally believed that 😂
Right!? The dude was outta his gd mind!
People get back with their exes all the time. If you find a new love interest and then they die...your mind is either gonna travel to the future or the past. So if one still has fond memories of a past relationship, the idea really of reuniting with an ex isn't completely outside the realm of possibility.
It sounds nuts, but it’s not like it hasn’t happened before. At one point in time, it was probably not an uncommon step in courting the girl of your dreams! 👰🏻🌻
Mike, I could watch you all day everyday! Your a the funniest guy I know. Love your channel and your sense of humour. I'm only up the road from you as well, if the ol wife didnt mind I'd love a catch up and a yarn about some of these fascinating cases. I'd settle for a chat digitally if possible🤷♀️ just living for your channel . Make something fun happen and get back to me ya crazy eejit 😂 drinks are on me 🍻 come on chum! Andrea 😁😊
Lol yep! Absolute mad man. Totally dillusional. Very scary.
Three reasons why I now watch That Chapter instead of other true crime channels:
1 Mike is witty and hilarious.
2 Mike speaks at a good pace. Other TH-camrs talk and talk and don't take a breath, leaving me feeling tired after listening to them.
3 Mike's video is concise with relevant images and video clips.
Mike’s got the best video flow out of any youtubers out there.
Agreed
4 He winks at the end of his videos (I always look foreword to that wink)
Wrong!! not number 3! its number TREE!!!
you mean tree reasons.
I've watched so many of these vids that if I'm at Walmart checkout and I see a dude buying a shovel, the possibility that he may just be going home to do some gardening doesn't cross my mind.
😂same. Cleaning products...
Same here , I give people the side eye now . Especially when they're buying a shovel with cleaning supplies and black bags .
😂😂
Yeah, watching this I was thinking: if I saw someone buying just a shovel and duct tape at checkout, would I report it?
Same here.
I live in fear of being framed and the prosecution using all my TH-cam history of nothing but That Chapter videos as evidence against me. 😟
Same 😂😂😂
😂
Dude fr! 😂 I was just thinking this then I saw your comment.
Same I'm like all the murder crap I watch will be used against me someday. But I can't stop watching
Me
I can see Pedro getting majorly into scrapbooking when he's in prison.
or just.. offing himself, finally. If only he had done it before he killed someone.
Pro tiny writer when throwing kites (pretty sure that’s the jail term)
Writing Heart warming, beautiful Haikus for his Prison lover in the mornings :)
😂😂😂😂
Its sad he has some skills
God damn, he was so obsessed with her/possessive, he couldn’t even call her Christian’s girlfriend in the police interview. Dude had to change it to, “The girl Christian had a crush on.”
Obsession is one hell of a drug.
He was distancing himself
Desire is the most powerful thing in the human mind next to love.
It’s mind boggling to me that Christian was dating Bravos ex. I’ve been alive long enough to know that some people are crazy and that you never mess with certain things if you want to guarantee nothing bad will happen to you. Don’t mess with anyone’s wife, girlfriend, money or livelihood. People will kill you over those things. And dating your friends ex is also on the list of things I personally wouldn’t do.
@@ErolDotCom Especially when people do something like that, that will put those people straight to jail life or the death penalty. This is why people need to start thinking twice before they do something to another person
"Whenever I murder somebody I keep all my receipts for any and all tools used and make detailed plans and drawings in one of my many journals to make sure I follow the procedure correctly. I always make sure I'm the last person seen with the victim and that I have an obvious and easily discernible motive." - Kind regards, Pedro
That was the brilliance of his plan!
I wonder if he gets his traits of OCD from his accountant father or Charty manager mother ?
@@sofiedouglas757 haha, probably a little of both.
"but thats the brilliance"
If you keep the receipts you can get the tax back for a job well done.
"The way people get caught is they kill someone they know"
Well Pedro, they also get caught by recording their entire murder plot. . . on paper. . . while in jail
He a real genius lol
@@mikesharon2177 just like Wylie Coyote is a genius.
@Jumpcut Jimmy What’s the purpose of the limestone though? He wanted to ensure the victim’s corpse would have properly filtrated groundwater?
@@Syclone0044 it helps with decomposition it's said
Well technically he’s correct. He did get caught killing someone he knew.
Can't thank Mike enough for being THE BEST TH-camr and dragging a lot of us through the lockdown. We love Mike TREE TOUSAND.
No! tirtytree tousand 😂
Turteen!!
Cheers to Mike 🍻
And tree
Tree hundred tousand. Mike is amazing, by far my favorite channel
Lockdown?
Dude puts more work and art into his killing plans than I did for 2 years at art school.
Fun Fact, there really was a time in the mid-late 2000's when Siri would actually give you a list of options like that such as dumps, parks, etc when you asked her where to hide a body. But I guess that didn't go over well with police so at some point it changed to her saying, "I used to know how to answer that". I have no idea what she says now-a-days though, I'm way to nervous to try it with all the cyber-spying BS the government does, Siri would probably report you directly to the cops rather than joking about not knowing the answer anymore.
It says “funny question” or “what again” “I used to know the answer to this” “very funny” I’ve asked 7 times in a row that’s all I got
My Siri will apologize for giving wrong information
Person: "Siri, how can I dispose of a body" Siri: "I am calling 9-1-1 now. I have taken control of your vehicle. I have locked the doors and windows and I am self driving you to the nearest Police Station. Have a nice day!" 😱
@@Jimschrbrand also your reminder to pick milk today at 2pm
“He was one of my friends for four years, if he told me it won’t rain tomorrow, I wouldn’t carry an umbrella.”
What an interesting and awful person.
Hahaha!! I thought that was a strange thing to say too, yet oddly endearing.
Lol I thought that was interesting as well 🤔☔
Shows he’s a sociopath. A response that he has memorised, seen or heard it somewhere.
I don't find that sentence to be at all interesting. It's throwaway nonsense. TBH, this just makes me think the guys a bit of a fucking idiot.
Trying to sound smart 😂
So is Siri an "access-Siri" to murder?
...
I'll see myself out.
Don’t worry about it, Pedro Bravo will see you out...
😂 😂
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂👍
Ba-dum ttsss!!! Lol
The fact you don’t beg people to subscribe or like and just make great content and let people do that on there own accord is awesome. Keep em coming Mike
Shout-out from Gainesville, Florida. I totally forgot about this. Chris is the same age I am.
All the time Pedro spent brooding and planning, he could have met someone else. Guys, I know it's hard but break-ups really aren't the end of the world. Murdering someone and going to prison or killing yourself is certainly an end-all.
Hello fellow floridian
Exactly he not a bad looking guy but he's totally crazy in the head and obsessive he should have seen a therapist it's crazy people always claim they are mentally ill when they commit a crime but won't go get help until after they do something they can't take back
@@jabellatv3240 I totally agree if he would have sought help beforehand he may not have ended up where he is now. Nope, he is not a bad looking guy at all...just a psychopath. He will now have plenty of boyfriends in prison...
This. My first true love left me about 2 years ago, and I was heartbroken. But instead of dwelling on it, I tried to move on, and found someone else about 8 months later - someone who I'm still currently with. It's a terrible experience but, if its that painful for you the worst you can do is keep chasing them, it's only going to make it worse.
I was in the same pod with both Andjelo and Bravo. Bravo was actually a really cool kid can't say the same for Andjelo but this when story is sad and fucked up
Pedro's diary is crazy, he's like the queen of overthinking
Kween*
@@MarkT1700
Kangz
It's stories like this that have inspired so many teenage horror stories... _Love, Sam_ anyone?
Hey Angie what would you do if you just broke up with a boyfriend and immediately he started a relationship with your best friend? Would she still be a best friend? Is that respectful or rubbing salt 🧂 of someone’s wounds?
For someone who overthinks that fucking much, you think he’d think a little harder about murdering a lady and writing his Creep Queen diary all about it
I'm in a love triangle with Jim Can't Swim and That Chapter.
Oooh who's Jim cant swim and what does he do?
@@SupportMensMentalHealth he does in depth analysis of police interrogation's. Great stuff, but long times between uploads. You should check out his channel.
JCS criminal psychology
@@SupportMensMentalHealth, I agree. He’s the complete opposite of Mike, but dives deep into police interrogations. He’s got quite the cult following as well. Definitely worth a view.
Except they don't love you, but they will do a video on you if you ever go off the deep end.
JK, they both love you.
Is it me or does Pedro look like a “Christian” and Christian looks like a “Pedro?”
Lmfao I noticed too
@@ambyvonne Hahahaha. Just sayin’🤷🏻♂️
Correct
Hahahaha thought the same
Christian has darker skin then pedro, but in my perception he looks less hispanic then pedro.
It's really disappointing that this all happened...Pedro seemed like a talented artist who could have moved on from that breakup and maybe even done great things. Christian also had a whole life ahead of him, he just started college. Really a sad story... :(
You seem like a decent person
💚 IT IS TRULY TRAGIC THAT A YOUNG MAN'S LIFE WAS TAKEN TOO SOON. HIS FORMER FRIEND WAS HIS KILLER, OVER A YOUNG WOMAN THAT NEITHER ONE MAY HAVE ENDED UP WITH. SO MANY LIVES DESTROYED. SO MANY FAMILIES DEVASTATED 😢
💚 REST IN PEACE CHRISTIAN 🕊️🙏💚💚💚
said the same thing.. what a shame
Uhm. Pedro was clearly a calculating sociopath of the mass shooter/school shooter degree. This guy would have gone on to coldly annihilate people his whole life if he was even a fraction as smart as he fancied himself. Thank god he wasn’t.
he's a loser
PEDRO: “I WILL succeed.”
MIKE: “No you won’t.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
I laughed hard the way he slid the comment in 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@BalboaBaggins how about men just being terrible , what else is new
I believe Mike was incorrect. Very successful in contrast to his Ex-girlfriend, she hasn't done anything since graduating high school.
I was a student at UF during the time that Christian went missing. Still remember seeing all his missing posters on the way to chemistry class or the library. My heart breaks for his family.
Me too. I was finishing up my last semester when all this went down. I felt so bad for the family when I learned what happened to Christian.
What happened with the girl?
@@johnv6806 She dated another friend of Pedro and Christian.
Lies
New kid on the block it's absolutely not her fault, and if he was their friend most likely he would be her friend already
“He already knew what they are were doing behind his back” “……it didn’t matter what they were doing behind his back! They were broken up etc etc”
This is why I keep coming back! Mike doesn’t need the “dramatics” when telling a story. He speaks with awareness and calls out the bs!
Its hard to picture Pedro as a murderer with his braces and acne. But I'm only halfway thru.
Okayyyy saw the diary. Never mind!
I would never understand people who pay for murder instruments with card, or keeps the receipts. Pay with cash, burn the receipt, actually, just don’t kill people.
Your avatar was my face while reading this comment, until the last bit.. thank god for the last bit lol
Or steal the instruments from a construction site far away from where you're. Use a map, an old map and mark the site where you know it's easy to dig.
Very true and don't do your murders based off TV shows like " Dexter" that guy was a total idiot
@@milovarquiel a lot of construction sites have video surveillance that could record your face or license plate. But yes, always pay cash, and destroy the murder weapon.
Ideally you should acquire your equipment through theft.
The only bad thing about my fridays is that i have to wait 4 days to watch more from this channel.
I’m sorry, working on the next ones though they’re pretty crazy!
@@ThatChapter im sure I wont be disappointed. 😊🕵
@@ThatChapter can we be friendssssss
@@ThatChapter I’ll be your Canadian friend in the igloo
@@ThatChapter I binged up your entire channel in 3 or 4 days and now....well...I'm learning to wait patiently. 😉👍🏻
My god, the girlfriend is very brave considering she pretty much knew Pedro was guilty of something bad. The fact she made him go to the police is smart and ballsy. She has my respect, and I hope she's doing OK.
She just did the right thing
@@DrJ-hx7wvyes she did the right thing about that but probably bad choice In a guy which led to murder but I can’t say anything I guess cause I’ve never been in love before and I’m not that crazy for a girl/boy that would literally murder and stuff
This case shows how it's NOT your responsibility to make others feel better!!! Trust your gut instinct
& cut off bad people from your life. Poor Erica & Christian cared alot about not hurting Pedro's feelings😐
No they didn’t. They cared a lot about not having to deal with his emotional outbursts.
Isn't it funny how Hollywood spends millions,and often times the end result isn't even entertaining. .
Here's some guy just talking to the camera and I can't get enough!
So true
His research amazes me, always got the footage.
RIGHT!!!!
Exactly! Great comment.
I know right, in the last 2 weeks I have seen Black Window and Suicide Squad 2 and both movies weren't nearly as good as one video from Monsters JCS, or That Chapter.
I’m an American accountant. I’ve been watching this channel so much that I caught myself saying “tirty-one” at work today. 😃
I did something similar! LOL!
Kingsford 😂😂😂😂
Imagine if you got caught by “tree” coworkers. 🤣
@@ThatGirlLib the “tird” one would would never let me forget!😆
Whatever you do, don't try insulting anyone by telling them they're "tick and tree planks".
If they're Irish, they'll break your nose, and if not they'll take the mickey out of you for your accent...;-D
When someone wants to "break up" with you, let them. They're doing you both, a favor.
This story is a reminder to all that a relationship is nobody's business but the couples business. We should always protect peoples privacy be it a friend or enemy!!
I get the feeling that Pedro thinks he's the smartest person in the room. He had a stupid smile on his face. Talk about duping delight!! 😳
@Frank Marano I totally agree! He's so smug and my $ is on the squirrel lol 😊
What a fool , couldn't handle the psychological pressure of an average looking girl.( come on she wasn't even that pretty or interesting looking) maybe she was his first and now his last...
@@willesco5211 She's a beauty queen compared to inadequate little squirt Pedro! But this story is not about the girl or her looks - it's about some males' huge entitlement and need to control females (I realise there are some obsessive females too, but this kind of crime, like all violent crime, is overwhelmingly committed by male perpetrators).
Males like Pedro refuse to accept a woman's rejection. They should grow up learning boundaries and respecting other people's right to reject them. Yes rejection is tough but every human being goes through it sometime and learning to develop a thick skin and move on is a sign of maturity.
Erica was free to date whoever she liked, she ended her relationship with Pedro and was not cheating on him. But he was a highly dangerous psychopath, capable of murder. Sadly they often look like him - inadequate and unimpressive. That's what makes them so dangerous, people don't realise what they're capable of. Christian made the mistake of getting into his car and it would cost him his life. Erica is actually very lucky to be alive - in most cases it's the female subject of the crazy's obsession who gets murdered.
Yeah. this is all too common for teenagers. he's still at the stage and age where he hasn't caught on to the fact that everyone around him likely has a degree of competence and don't have rocks kicking around in their heads.
@@glamdolly30 She was average at best.
the fact that’s he’s smirking while speaking
Thank you, don't know why nobody said this. It's just so creepy.
Yeah he was cringey on the stand. And did you see some of the things he wrote in his journal like "get my eyebrowns down at the mall!" when talking about how to get her back. Lol what a weasel.
Its called dupers delight
I know right. Wtf kind of defense is that?! If you're not guilty, why would you sit there and smirk like that while talking about your dead friend? He seemed happy to be able to kill him and hurt her.
The "psychopathic smirk".
I’m old enough to know that twenty years later, he probably wouldn’t even remember her name.
He will now.
I've been in a situation where an ex was stalking me and telling his room mates how he was going to kill my partner to "win me back". I have no idea how that logic works. There was no way I wanted anything to do with that guy already, getting people to help stalk me and threatening to kill someone I love is not attractive. It's not changing my mind. It just cements how screwed up people like that are and how much I do not want to have anything to do with anyone like that.
Pro tip: killing people to get someone back is not a good move. Most people aren't into that. Stop it.
Deadly teenaged "love" stories are so depressing. People, when you're 28, you will barely remember the people you dated in high school! Edited to add: Yes, I know you guys who are replying successfully married your high school sweetheart. That's still on the rare side, and my point is that obsessive teenage love like this isn't actual love- it's just infatuation. See: the plot of Romeo and Juilet, which made fun of it.
Right lol..
Unless you’re an obsessive psychopath.
I’m not an obsessive psychopath path, I’m 29 and my first love still gets me fucked up if I think on it 😅
@@LateLastNight you are the exception. Lol
But you’ll never forget the crabs 🦀
"They found information in his search history about unsolved murders".
Heh. Haha. What a psycho. Yeah. Haha. Yeah. Yeah that's unusual. Haha.
Lol- right! 😣😂
shh just never commit a murder and we'll be totally safe
I fear we’ll see more of this in the future
😮😏
Wait a minute.....that sounds a lot like me!
I find these stories very sad and most of the time could have been avoided. R.I.P. to the victims and prayers to the families.
The way he smiles at the trial is actually called, duping delight, he is so happy of what he has done, and at the same time thinking he is smarter than anyone else, convinced that he will get away with murder,that he just cant hide his joy, a true psychopath, who has to be locked up for life.
No. Duping delight is about lying and thinking you're getting away with the lie, but the laugh/smirk/smile is the tell. I think this dude is heavily medicated. Seems like he probably was for a while.
He even smiled when he surely knew he would get convicted. He enjoyed the revenge he took bcs for him it aaparently was worth it.
Murderer's to do list:
Buy a shovel
Buy duct tape
Find a place to dump the body
GET RID OF ACNE
Discard the evidence
This nut really had a lot on his mind...
Also get eyebrows done at the mall and wear red (???)
@@jimmypadilla3441 what 😂😂😂😂😂
When he was making this "to do" list he omitted one very important thing. 'GET RID OF THIS LIST!"
@@maryannanderson7517 LOL 😂😂
Michał he should cut all sugar from his diet while he is in prison, pretty sure that will work for him. Mind you acne might be a benefit for him in prison.
Women need to realize that their exes well being, has nothing to do with them. If they're threatening you with their mental health, and suicide, you need to cut it off. You're not their mom.
If anybody threatens you with suicide, cut all connection immediately and never look back. It will save you from lot of trouble, this is a known tactic of borderline and narcissistic personality. With these people you cant win, trust me. Walk away, while you still can.
sure your a great girlfriend
But whining when men leave their girlsfriends without any connection and help^^
i fucking knew the first comment would be "yeah but men too 🥺"
@@therealaintain well why not my brothers ex almost killed him by stabbing and she stalked the shit out of him try also have 3 kids so it’s not as easy to just cut it off sometimes thankfully he did leave her eventually and lives with his new fiancé in a different city :)
23:29 The smile as he talks about the physical altercation, along with the little giggle, would’ve done me in as a Juror..
My love triangle is “that chapter” and “mr ballen”
Same. It's quite the throuple! LoL
Same here
Here’s a tip: if you want the jury to believe you it’s probably best not to smile and laugh as you describe leaving your “friend” on the side of the road left for dead
Everyone ain't that stupid. Granted, there are those that are easily swayed, you will likely just make yourself look stupid and aggravate individuals that know better.
Not his friend anymore
Watching with my 'That Chapter' bingo card. Florida? Check!... Love triangle? Check!.... Caught buying an obvious murder kit on WalMart security cameras? Check!
Police corruption would give you a full house!
BINGO !!
In Sweden you get an ID check when buying an energy drink. They should do the same for people who buy murder kits 🙄
There should absolutely be That Chapter bingo cards!!
I have been binge watching all of your shows. You are awesome. Thanks!
You know, WalMart has a really good return policy, if you're hiding evidence you should return the shovel to a different store, the cops would never think to look for it inside the store. In a week it's going back to a distribution center and it's gone forever.
He did what he intended to do. His motive was to get back at Christian and ruin Erica’s life which is why he’s smiling on the stand. I’ve seen this case before and feel so bad for Christian’s family. His dad was devastated. As for Erica, she looked genuinely happy with Christian and I feel bad for her too. Pedro’s crazy ass ruined more than 1 life.
imagine killing someone over the girl that doesn't love you at all
How do you know she didn't love him
@George Washington Agreed
How bout not dating your buddies ex?
That’s the reason why he killed Christian. Because she loved Christian and not him
@@velvetjonez06 Exactly, I was thinking the same thing. They both were snakes for sneaking around his back like that. Didn't deserve to die though and may he RIP but it was still wrong on their part.
Today I Learned that my phone apparently tracks literally everything, including flashlight usage?!?!?
Its not like you imagine it. But yes, absolutly every input that reaches the phone is getting recorded. Not by some special software or the governtment spying on you, but by the phones system itself. That data isnt just available to the user or the smartphone company but has to be readed out by people who know how to do that.
You and I both 😂
And im not happy about it
I just learned that 10 minutes ago myself!!
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis Some of this information is available to the user, especially when you are going to submit some feedback in an app, there is a function that can be called to ask the user to choose which system logs they want to send along with the feedback.
The drawings in his journal are actually quite good
He had lots of talent he trew away for a girl that apparently wasnt worth it. Atleast it looks like the revenge he took was worth it for him.
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis get rid of acne!
Mike making fun of the note of "I will succeed" and him saying "no ya won't" really got me lmao
They always expect a fairy tale ending after killing the current boyfriend/girlfriend in these types of cases 🤦🏼♀️
Lol ikr? It’s laughable. I sat and wondered, has that EVER worked???
Idk I mean, maybe there are couples out there who are together because the chain of events was secretly altered by murder of a rival by one of the two partners, and we never hear about those, by definition of them being successful. 😳
But yeah even if there were, I’m pretty sure they’re an extreme minority of cases.
I remarried my exwife after she made me a widow.
For real, they act like the person who rejected them is just going to fall into their open arms once they kill the person they loved.
@@hollykost155 You mean a widower?
Syclone0044 but I can imagine it WASN’T so uncommon in Viking or like
Medieval europe! Maybe I’m just thinking of Game of Thrones.
Ah, the old “he was breathing when I left” excuse. It says a lot about your character when the jury finds a jailhouse snitch more believable than you.
They really didn't need the snitch in this case, he snitched on himself.
I hate the stigma associated with people providing testimony in murder trials. The guy did the right thing testifying and assisted in putting a murderer away. Quit it with that “snitch” nonsense.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx I don't believe J Smalls meant it in that kind of way. In this context it's not quite the same as an informant getting a drug dealer arrested. The witness was a gang member, if he had "snitched" on a dealer, it would be quite different, and chances are that he wouldn't "snitch" on a dealer. But I digress. Some words just mean different things in different contexts.
@@ObnoxiousCamoToe Yea I agree. It's not so black and white sometimes. If it was something that could potentially get him or his family killed he probably would of been hesitant, but I also understand where they were coming from too. Being a snitch is a stigma and it shouldn't be that. I'm glad that guy spoke up.
@@ObnoxiousCamoToe not sure what you’re getting at. Anybody providing relevant information on a dangerous criminal, and drug dealers are VERY dangerous criminals responsible for deaths, in court testimony did the right thing.
The smiling while describing his fabricated version of the events is so disturbing and heartbreaking. I can’t imagine Christian’s family and girlfriend having to sit thru that.
Man, this one checks off so many killer Bingo boxes:
-Florida
-Ex
-High school sweetheart
All it needs to complete a row is "life insurance policy" and "custody of the kids".
I can't imagine how much gore pictures and videos you have on your computer
THATS CRAZY HOW YOU PUMP THESE OUT EVERY WEEK!
You're the best true crime channel on YT by FARR
2 a week is why he will have a million subs in a few months. He’s a one man machine.
I agree 👍🙏🦋❤
Absolutely agree.
@@renn6102 is he really a 1 man team? Theres no one else who works with him?
@@themilosh895 thats what I read
So happy that almost all of these geniuses never ask for a lawyer.
Probably the cost of it more than anything we get free representation in the uk :) as well as healthcare and education
They always think they will get away with it. They think their smarter than the police
@@TheJamiebaby15
Yeah, free. Right.
@@copyorange well it is ? Obviously taxes pay for it but it’s free to people who need the service
Let's be honest, if they plan to murder a person in the first place, why do you think they will want to have a lawyer present? They achieved their end goal, they have won.
Glad Pedro did not harm anyone else. Condolences to Christian’s family.
Thanks Mike for sharing these stories.
I was in the same pod with both Andjelo and Bravo. Bravo was actually a really cool kid can't say the same for Andjelo but this when story is sad and fucked up
I saw this on a show. It was heartbreaking. Christian and his father were best of friends and this just absolutely broke his father's heart.
"Phone showed he had his flashlight on, for 48min 9x"
Me: Looks at phone... Throws it out the window.
i know huh...was thinking holy crap, they know when my flashlight is on?!?
@@MissMichele4286 well it was because he used an app to run the flashlight. The phone logs how much you use each app so it knows which to suggest etc
@Matt McEntyre but why would you need one or anything not attached to a phone? I just learned last week that apparently there used to be something called an iron for removing wrinkles from clothes. Who knew? I just use the app all of my life
😂
I found out on one of these shows that the police can find messages and stuff that you have deleted as well😳
Why don't people in jail ever think that their cellmates are informers? You just met someone, like, 2 weeks ago and you're unloading your darkest secrets to them. Weird.
Yep and now that dude is labeled a snitch
Youre stuck in there, you have a lot on your mind, and you associate the people around you as being in the same circumstance. Everyone going in Im sure swears to tell themselves theyre not going to breath a word of it to anyone, but then...
it's not even the guilty conscience... it's the mental effects of being away and far... the walls the gates all these things of being locked away makes u talk because it's all freedom u do have left
Naw cats like that aren't seen as snitches. They see it as taking advantage of a dumb fish to look good for the next parole hearing 😂
No honour among thieves these days
"I will succeed."
Mike popping onto the screen & saying "No ya won't!"
That's the kind of shit I love about this show.
That Chapter: "the third or fourth body"
CC: 'the turd or fork body'
Life in prison over a girl , cannot ever get my head around it .
I agree and I am a girl.. Obsession is scary.
If I came home from work and my wife was in bed w a man, I can imagine it.
Too many people are this obsessed, but circumstances prevented them from killing. Some pine for their first loves their entire life. Pretty stupid but eh...
Also like.. seriously? Your first high school gf? It's barely even a real relationship, you go onto college and date another 8-10 people before you even have a substantial one
And even then like.. if it ends it ends, you move on haha
Wish the girl luck and that's it
I mean I'm still friends with most of my recent exes, it's not a big deal
I lived with one for a year while we both dated other people
This guy is just a batshit creeper
I don't think it was just the girl, he was also betrayed by his friend.
Haha
"Rhymes with Schmistian"
That got me
OMG me too!!!
That was cute !! Lol
When you can't think if anything that rythms withs Christian, make up a word. They'll (viewers) will get a kick out of it!
Indeed, Mike
@@dustycoutu2721 That's our Mike for yea 😉
That takes me back to when a little shit tried to make fun of my baby brother, who's name is Sebastian. So what rhymes with that you say? This three year old cycled around my bro with a three-wheeler chanting Sebastian the Castian x 300. And my brother cried like there was no tomorrow. 🤣🤣🤣
I went to middle school and high school with them and was also in my first semester at UF when this happened. Still think it’s crazy that this sort of story involves people I knew fairly well.
So, what were they like? Spill the tea
Probably unremarkable and grinned a lot !
Nobody cares.
@@Boodoo4You 🤣 Bobs Vagina !
@@maggotmeatballz2692 Chris was smart and very kind, like people described, but would also roast you at times.
Pedro was very artsy, always drawing. Also smart and fun person to be around. They were in the same subgroup of friends. Not a psychopath or sociopath like many people comment. A few weeks before this happened, he was driving a car with some friends and started driving recklessly and almost crashing and potentially killing everyone in that car. He actually offered to give me rides back from work that semester but glad he never answered the phone when I needed him!
What amazes me is the number of exes who can't let go. Most dating will end and not in marriage. If he concentrated on finding another girl . there are so many out there and his own success. Life would be so different for them all. When there's a break up it lmeans it wasn't meant to be. And I love Mike too. He gives just enough humor ,and keeps the story moving. Mike is best at this. I know it's a great skill Mike has. We love you Mike.
"You know, he murdered my current boyfriend it means he loves me very much. Now Im gonna go back with him bcs its true love."
- said no one (sane enough) ever
(apparently I have to edit it bcs some ppl are crazy)
I've dated a couple girls that would think that was hot. One for sure would have loved me forever if I did something like that.
@@jacobahl8317 holy shit that's worrisome
@@jacobahl8317 .... Fantasies aren't reality. They're idealizing the idea of you love them so much you'd kill for them. Not the literal death part
She shouldn't have kept in contact with him, it was unintentionally or subconsciously leading him on.
@@hoosierhiver what a load of shit. He followed her to another city. This is on his mental health, not her actions. She probably thought she'd keep herself safe by keeping him happy. She was probably terrified what he'd do if he cut contact. Either to her or himself. She knew he wasn't well. And people who aren't well aren't rational. Until he got help which didn't happen, being pleasant was probably safest thing she could have done. If he's capable of killing a man for dating his ex-girlfriend, then the ex-girlfriend probably had a fair idea of what would happen to her as the main subject of his affections. Cutting contact is the opposite of safe, and we see this all the time in mentally unwell stalkers over and over.
When I discovered this channel, I thought I would never run out of That Chapter fixes. BUT I WAS WRONG
Now I have to wait for Tuesday and then hang on until Friday ...IT SUCKS, MIKE, IT SUCKS
FULLY AGREED!!! 💕
same honestly
100% agreed!
Yeah Mike! What's up with that why can't you do 3 a week it's not like we're asking for a kidney geez!! Lol
I wish I could like that comment about 5 times!!!!!
Pedro . You were talented, you were good-looking, you were young. You gave it all away for a girl who didn't love you.
Kids if someone doesn't love you back , remember its not the end of the world. You will find someone much much better kayy. Dont be a Pedro.
He would've killed someone else eventually. He's a sociopath, so it wasn't necessarily about the girl, that was just an excuse to kill. This wasnt an impulsive act; this was premeditated and he seemed to have enjoyed the limelight.
You will find someone **
Doesnt make them less of or a bad person for not loving you back lol
Honestly both Pedro and Christian paid too high a price for their choices. Why couldnt it be anyone but Erica could be said for both boys. And it's not like Erica and Christian didn't know what their friend Pedro is like. Pedro asking them if they were dating multiple times is a red flag.
The best way to keep yourself safe is eliminate even the possibilities. Yeet yourself away from these people and make it clear.
@@rosieposeee3353 my thought exactly!
Anyone else want to smack that smirk off his face while he’s on the stand !
He wanted to get out of town, away from the memories and have a fresh start so he moved to where his ex-girlfriend lived that he has memories with which he is trying to escape? Bravo Pedro.
Yeah I'm surprised someone of his intelligence would say something that stupid. Maybe he's not good on his feet
I see what you did there😉😅😅
“Bravo Pedro” I see what you did there
He’s literally smiling through his testimony
You Afrrodite😍💘
I saw that too, but some people do that when they are nervous.
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Yeah, couldn’t tell if this was a nervous smile or a “duper’s-delight-grin”
Duping delight !
So fucking cocky right?
I talk to my young grandchildren regularly about school, sex education and that falling in and out of love a hundred times during your teenage years is normal. I pray they never fall victim to this kind of abuse 🙏
"He's one of my friends for four years. If he told me tomorrow there'd be no rain I wouldn't carry an umbrella."
What a weird fucking thing to say.
Seemed very much like a scripted question from his lawyer and a scripted response!
Greatest true crime channel imo
Thank you!
@@ThatChapter no problem man 🤘
I concur! 🔥
Absolutely I agree 🙏💯✅
Mike is a really really likable guy ❤️there’s just something about mike 🙏❤️
Siri was then arrested for "conspiracy to conceal a corpse."
She would already have been tried, but nobody could remember the passcode.
Even if Christian never existed I'm pretty sure Erica wasn't planning on ever going back with Pedro. She must have seen his crazy much earlier and dumped him. Sooo... Good job Pedro. You took someone's life and ruined your own, all for nothing.
She would have eventually met another man and Pedro would have killed that one just like he killed Christian. He saw her as his possession..
Soooo, when I first came across Mike and That Chapter, I didn’t like these videos at all. I had a hard time following Mike(not sure why). I watched a lot of Coffeehouse Crime. However, Mike quickly grew on me. He’s respectful of the victims, mocks the bad guys, and keeps things VERY interesting. Nowadays, That Chapter is the only true crime videos that I watch any more!
I was exactly the same. First time I saw one of his videos I thought it was terrible. But Mike eventually seduced me into obsessive doom watching every waking minute. 😒😂
"Maybe somebody whose name rhymes with Schmistian.." Who also LOVES Mike for his classic lines like THIS??😂❤👍😊
I was watching the Big Hero 6 tv show a few days ago and the character Fred made a similar joke lol I instantly thought of that scene when Mike said it 😂
Him pretending to be a homicidal boy pretending to be a sane boy was just...*chef's kiss"
I do 🧡🧡❤️❤️
@Your Mom bruh what lol
that's a classic line? sorry but very little impresses you.. but i guess that's a good thing.
This.kid was LOVING being on the stand telling his "Story"
Very creepy, I wonder what his parents are like it bc he is a pile.
He's smiling, man. He is actually smiling while he's being interrogated by the police. Like, wtf?
Siri used to answer “Siri where can I hide a dead body”?
Everyone was asking her this and she would give a list of very legitimate answers but apple stoped her from answering that question.
"Are you dating anyone whose name rhymes with Schmishtian?".....gotta use that line.....someday.....somehow.
Right? I gotta good laugh from that!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was so funny. I couldn't stop laughing
Cracked me up!
The fact that they really found out how long he used the flashlight on his phone for 😩
And normally I would just forget that, except for the fact it was my birthday, my stupid birthday.
That's scary. Your phone is the main thing that catches you. Everytime I'm like who but foreigners use burner phones? Criminals sophisticated ones
Siri absolutely does this, or did when it first came out. Me and some friends read about Siri suggesting this and we tested it out. We straight up asked where we can dump a body and she asked if we were looking for ditches, reservoirs, dumps, etc. This was many years ago.
The smartest thing Mike has done to get views is to squeeze the whole story in within nothing more than 30 minutes. Genius
The way he’s smiling and smirking on the stand. Talking about his friend on the ground and has a smile on his face. Even giggling at some points. Messed up. Messed up dude.
Dupers delight! Chris Watts does this a lot too. Really common with narcissists.
He's completely satisfied with what he's done. The fact that Christian can't be with Erica is more important to him than him spending the rest of his life in prison.
Pure flipping evil!
He reminds me of Martin Shkreli, the pharma bro. One of my friends was on the jury. She said his demeanor made her skin crawl.
prick thinks he is charming...
Pedro Bravo In Portuguese means "Angry Peter"
In Spanish it means Piece of Sh!t Peter!
Sounds about right.
Or brave
If the police knew Portuguese, the case would’ve been solved in no time
"Pedro Bravo" sounds like the cop code word for "angry peter".
Pedro never got rid of that acne. Hope he has a good prison skincare regimen
Oh Mr Mike. I absolutely love your channel and you soooo much. The way you say dirty tree (33) is just great. I'm not obsessed at all. I don't fall asleep and wake up to your videos🤣I don't watch your videos over and over 😂 I'm not watching them whenever I'm supposed to be working 😈I'm not plotting and scheming for whenever I'm alone and can watch another video. I'm attending therapy NOW..... I'm, I'm better NOW. Especially since you're posting new informative videos. 🤣😈😂
Gotta give it to Pedro- he’s got nice handwriting.
Holly S I was thinking the same! He’s a monster, but good handwriting. Lol.
😜😁🤣😂😆 Dead af right now
I liked the doodles/art too. I wish he had gotten obsessed with art and not a woman ☹️
can't lie, loved the way he put the journal together....and i agree, had he went into art and not obsess a chick, he might've went down a different path....
Straight up that cursive at 14:58 is damn near calligraphic. I keep finding myself pausing to look more closely at the pages. I can only think of one guy I've ever met that has such neat handwriting.
YES THE KING IS BACK
I remember when this happened in my home town. Thank you for covering this Mike!
Never date your friends ex. It is not a cool move. I have had friends exes try to get with me and I always declined out of respect. Especially if your friend is a psycho and saying crazy stuff before the breakup.
I did it behind my friends back and it was wrong. My friend threatened to kill me and all i could think was "Well, tbh, i kinda deserve that.". We eventually worked it out and everything is cool.. You just cant do shit like that to your friends.
He would’ve killed any other man she decided to get with, he’s sick
@@201stars maybe, but idk. When your girl cheats on you with a friend or coworker, it hits a bit different than when she does it with a stranger. Even if it wasn't cheating, when your girl hooks up with your buddy 5 minutes after dumping you, you are going to feel like they were probably already hooking up when you were still together. It is like another level of betrayal and that might be what set him off. I was cheated on by almost every girl I ever dated and everyone I know was cheated on by every girl they dated and it only seems to really wreck guys when it is with your friend or coworker. When it is with a stranger it is no big deal, a thot gonna be a thot, but when it is someone else in your life it is hard to cope. MFS get shot up EVERY DAY over this kind of thing. Literally 3/4 of the murders I hear about in my city are over girls. That is the kind of situation that makes dudes snap. Not sure if she cheated on him, but generally when a girl leaves a dude and gets with his friend right after, they were probably hooking up before too.