The Case of Mark Carver
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- Mark Carver was fishing along the Catawba River one day, when little did he know about 100 yards away a mysterious scene would be discovered and the fate of Ira Yarmolenko revealed. Mark Carver swears he never saw anything, yet he would inevitably be linked to what happened. Was this the wrong place, wrong time, or is Mark Carver responsible for what happened to Ira Yarmolenko?
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I feel for her family it's a tremendous loss. However another tragic injustice won't bring her back.
Can't really blame the family for thinking they are guilty though - I mean from their perspective the police and prosecutors are telling them they know this man is guilty and he was even found guilty in a trial, and they were told his DNA was found in her car and had that evidence explained to them as being "like a fingerprint - it only belongs to one person".
They aren't to be expected to know the DNA sample was very poor quality and mixed, and that the standards the lab should have used to evaluate this evidence would have returned a result of "inconclusive" and the positive result was only returned because of their use of outdated standards. The police, the prosecutors, and the forensic scientists on the other hand should definitely know better.
Look who's fishing now, the cops..... I've seen this situation to many times, since when cops refuse to give a polygraph, my guess is when the A.G. says so and figures it'll ruine his case.
@@nozornozor8270 polygraph's aren't admissible in court because they aren't that accurate
Spot on
@Death to Communism that's stupid. We're ALL guilty of sin. Suffering is universal because of sin. And that statement is dumb. If guilty people get out MORE innocents will suffer 🙄🙄😒
Update: on the 12th of August 2022, the murder charge against Mark was dropped because of a lack of evidence, his ankle monitor was removed the same day and is now a free man.
Thank you for the information
Another innocent man doing time he'll never get back. Fucking justice system is a joke....the cops put the blinders on like they always do in these situations.
Got two guys fishing who were over a football fields length away that said they didn't see or hear anything then, coz there a bit thick, one of em said oh we did hear summat, sorry forgot about that. That cop was licking his fucking lips when that guy said that, like he was some deep fried chicken and he'd been out all night boozing
I'm so glad to hear this!
Yes!!! Amen!
Good.
Everyone feeling sorry for Mark... but what about his cousin that literally died of a heart attack because of all this? So incredibly sad for everyone involved...
He DID die of a heart attack!
@@therealwilfreddierkes9980that’s literally what they said…
@@lillymurray8408 thats right, they needlessly added the word "literally" to their description of what happened to him. by doing so, they are speculating that he ACTUALLY died from a heart attack rather than SPECULATIVELY, it is completely unneccessary and i believe that the person you responded to was sarcastically highlighting that.......literally, like
I thought the same thing. No innocent man should have to take their dying breaths in jail for something they didn’t do. Alone, without their family, and with apathetic sub-par care.
What we can't feel sorry for Mark his cousin and iras family?what's your point?
Jesus Christ this man just wanted to go fishing, I bet the real killer had a right laugh at this miscarriage of justice.
I always wonder if the killer in unsolved cases watch the videos on the investigation/crime.. Maybe even commenting.
@@7eis I know a lot of killers follow their cases in the news, so it isnt out of the question
So did Jesus agree with you?
@@Izzyforeverlace8chrome very enthusiastically 😂
@@ohno8398 you know a lot of killers?
This entire thing just SCREAMS of "we just arrested the most convenient person so we would be home in time for dinner"
He was lead on by the interviewer so much it made me want to pull my hair out. That poor man.
Lazy arse cops, again arresting innocent people so they dont have to do ground work....they should be in deep shit when they do this,because they are letting the murderer do it again.
Nailed it totally
Dude, DNA
Exactly
There is photographic evidence of the same policeman who interviewed and SHOOK Mark’s hand, just a few minutes later leaning on and putting his hands all over the car and windows. There were no gloves used during any of this. The crime scene was mishandled egregiously by police and also verified via photos and videos. Transfer DNA could have most assuredly happened. I think either Dateline or 20/20 did an episode on this case. This was good just to scratch the service but there was a lot more info (all pointing to a wrongful conviction” that was on the TV show.
The part where he stated “I feel sorry for them because I got two of my own” breaks my heart for him. Justice wasn’t served here.
Ultimately yes it was. He is free.
@@jarredfugleberg3994 if you think that's justice you have sever issues bro, even taking one hour off someone's life who is innocent is injustice.
@@jamesgordon177 also do you not know what the word ‘ultimately’ means? At first he was falsely imprisoned. But he was set free and paid off, therefor, justice was served. Do you get it now buddy?
@@jarredfugleberg3994 Have you ever heard the relatively common aphorism, "Justice delayed is justice denied"?
@@andrewpereira9271 no.
Man when he looked that detective in the eye and said “you did not find my dna in that car” I knew he didn’t do it. That detective being so much smarter, more assertive, in a position of power and for that simple man to lock eyes with him and challenge him. That’s fucking conviction folks.
Reminds me of JCS's video on innocent people's behavior when questioned. He even says that no matter how meek or socially anxious a person may be, when they're in a situation like this, they will exhibit confident behavior and will challenge the interviewer in a different way than guilty people do. Really interesting.
AMEN, exactly what I saw. An innocent simple man can speak volumes with his eyes and mannerisms. I am ashamed of prosecution/detective education systems in North Carolina.
I agree also!
Most guilty murderers are kindasorta expecting their DNA to be found, and if it is, they either try to think of another reason why their DNA might be there, or they will still try to portray themselves as confident and arrogant.
Mark knew damn well that his DNA was NOT at the crime scene. When the detective said that he found his DNA in her car, you could hear that he was speaking with fear, defeat and almost crying when he said "You didn't find my DNA in her car".
Most guilty people try to stay confident and not bothered by it. Mark sounded so scared and helpless. But being that he looked the detective in the eye and said "no you didn't find my DNA in her car"... Even a good lier has trouble looking someone in the eye when telling a lie...
I agree!!! This was the exact moment when I said, "This guy is innocent!"
100%
I didn't even know in that point of the video that he was innocent, but I sensed he was telling the truth then and there.
The prosecutor and whoever else should have to serve time. You can’t get time back. Law enforcement should be held accountable to the highest standards. If you are corrupt you serve the maximum sentence
And in GP No "protective custody" BS See how long they last 💁✌️
We need a public directory of prosecutors and officers who have gotten people falsely convicted and imprisoned. Then we crowdfund suicidal people (the money goes to their families) to go and execute the people on this list and then die by cop.
You're a sick puppy.
Mark is owed a lot from the justice system. Poor guy.
To be honest nothing could pay him back I dont know to much about his families personal life but he said he wanted to see his grandkids which says to me he could've missed a significant part of those grandkids lives like them being born or a significant amount of time that they wouldn't even know him say they were 3 or something when he got charged another possibility is that he missed his own kids go from young teens to adults to parents nothing could pay him back for the time he was in jail and nothing could pay for those crucial events he could've missed
Mark is like a child.... I actually felt sad watching that interview.
me too! :(
i am glad i don't feel alone in this, i imagine someone close to me instead because it is very similar and that scares me.
Me too, very sad 😢
It was not ready to watch that, you can tell in his voice and body language he wasn't guilty
My heart broke during his interview. There is no way he did this. The police and the DA need to do their damn jobs and stop trying to pin this on Mark.
The worst part is, there may very well be a killer on the loose that hasn't been caught. I don't think he's guilty.
@Enclave Soldier lol thats some dumb reasoning ...heard of serial killers?
@@Mannsy83
Yes. What about them?
Doubt there would be lack of evidence and suspicious touch dna with the bodies involved.
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
@Enclave Soldier That's true, but why did you say that as a response to the other dude saying he thinks there is a killer out there and that the original guy is innocent??
@@Mannsy83 what does a serial killer have to do with not punishing innocent people?
Those poor guys. This makes me so sad. I'm glad Mark got out. I'm sad Neal died. That district attorney is a pos.
I bet stress from the case was a huge factor in his heart attack too. It's awful.
I hope Neal's family is able to sue for wrongful death. The stress of being falsely accused most likely led to his death, so the state should pay.
Most of them are a pos.
they seemed like really sweet guys. Earnest fellas, there was no justice for Mark, Neal, Ira or their families. What a disgrace.
@@witchflowers6942 I'm so glad he got out! I couldn't finish watching, I had to check right away if he got out. Now that I know I can finish the video.
Makes you think about how many innocent people are serving years of their life while the actual criminal walks free.
Now imagine how many innocent people were executed because they were wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death.
LOTS!
@BingeV A whole bunch, a deeper look into the prison systems out there will tell you that right away. There are state prisons but there are a lot of private prisons too. Free labor.
I know. That’s the only reason I oppose the death penalty. There certainly are people who are a waste of oxygen, but on the other hand, poor and undereducated people are often poorly defended, and juries do make mistakes. You can free someone, you can’t give them their life back.
Scary 😦
Imagine being a cop, and deciding it's better to put an innocent man in jail for life - than admit you can't find the killer.
Repulsive behavior. Yet it happens literally ALL THE TIME (especially to poor people, black people & the developmentally disabled).
And the real killer will strike again!
Thats what this cop did
it's incredible. they were not efter the truth but the results, to tell the public that they found the killer to show competens.
Oh I bet they know who did it.
This is horrid for Mark, you can see in his eyes he is being so truly open and honest with them. The officers definitely used his disabilities against him to confuse and trap him.
Condolences to the family, also.
you can see in his eyes he was terrified and it wasn't fake.
My son says all the time they take care of me bc if my Asperger's mom and he is right... dealerships landlords employers they don't make it easy and then they wonder why all the mentally ill homeless
And whoever did it walks free
As crazy as this sounds...at least it was in the state it was in. In Texas they would have executed him probably well before he would have been proven innocent. They have a long history of executing the mentally disabled.
Our justice system is beyond fucked up if people like this get sent to prison but some sexual assaulters get less than a year.
Meanwhile, on top of that, people are getting tossed in the can just for possessing a substance (not talking about stealing to support addiction, which is something you should be jailed for, but the simple possession of a substance, whatever substance that be, for personal use: a crime that doesn't involve a victim is quite the moral and legal question, isn't it? I mean, where is there a victim in a possession of a controlled substance case? The accused and the sentenced are also the victim here. Again, if you steal for your drugs, that should be punished, but if you work a job and want to spend all your legally obtained money on it, well, who am I to stop you?
Then you have people who actually created the drugs and illegally manipulated doctors into overprescribing them, knowing full well their addictive potential (and in fact relying on it to continue to drive sales), they just get to declare bankruptcy, keep all the money they made, and have the COMPANY BE CHARGED with the crimes, not the actual people perpetrating them.
Now you can also sue, or possibly jail, a family member you've never even met for getting an abortion...what? Who is this person?
Yeah, we're fucked.
Cops in small towns tend to be one step above prison guards ( for those who don't know prison guards are often people who want to be cops but can't make the cut)
Getting a really bad read on the guy questioning him in the first clip shown. He's condescending and baiting and that's effed up. I can believe he was framed tbh.
i think more chance that cop did it than the guy they arrested from that video.
it happens often...
Thats what he's supposed to do in the moment. Its supposed to bait the subject. The fact he left the room acting like that was the case is wrong though. Almost like he was in denial he didn't get the reaction he wanted.
Legato Modi i thought they aren't supposed to ask leading questions?
Linda F the police can ask anything they like in an interrogation room.
A lawyer cannot ask a witness on the stand any leading questions
I'm an old granny. I've been reading crime books and watching crime shows all my life. Your by far the best in my humble opinion. Keep up the great work young man!
Mike is fantastic, I agree. Lucky Charms, lucky us! 🌲🌲🌲 🍀
I agree! Mike is incredible at this. I never comment but I also never miss a video.
Me, too. When I was younger I read all the Nancy Drew mysteries. I also read Cherry Ames, but it was an older series that was on an elderly neighbor's bookshelf.
Oh and, Yes! Mike is a great presenter!
A granny who's comfortable using the internet and who also enjoys Mike's channel is a pretty cool granny as far as I'm concerned!
This poor man with quite significant intellectual impairment could not maintain a lie. You can see that police officer guiding him into saying incriminating things.
Exactly
When he said .... "you're making my day" and the poor guy just looked at him in confusion, my heart shattered :(
So are we going to fucking ignore the DNA on Yarmolenkos car?
@@ronniebowlsby6037 Random peoples DNA could be found on plenty of people who have committed suicide, it doesn't mean much.
Also I just saw that the cop shook Mark's hand and then went back and fiddled with the car lmao. What a joke.
Did anyone else have that gut feeling they didn’t do it halfway through and didn’t read the comments till after the fact? I watch so many of these true crime stories, and it was just a feeling I had it. Thanks Mike for the great video as always!😊
I knew Mark didn't do it when I saw that cop interview him.Trying to put words in his mouth but he was determined to be honest & not be swayed by the cops
Yes!
The ego of the District Attorney is reprehensible. They’re so invested in being right rather than being accurate.
@KerryHall. You nailed it! The DA Locke Bell had his eyes on getting this case closed and gift wrapped. Across that river is Charlotte NC and they “said” they “asked for help”… I’m so glad Carver is out and after all these months, no new charges have been filed. Also, DA Bell has RETIRED.
@Kerry Hall More like They're so invested in appearing right, even when they're wrong, rather than accuracy.
You are so correct !!
Exactly!
Are you a criminal by any chance?
As a parent of an adult child with low IQ, I find this story appalling. They weaponized his disability. Despicable.
I was infuriated by this 😡
Police do this all the time. Its disgusting.
You don't need to have a disabled child to find this appalling. Don't say much for this copper he has even less sense. Made me really angry.
Police in general go after the weakest link, path with least resistance. A mentally disabled person is ALWAYS pushed like that. I know as a society people automatically assume someone is guilty if they get a lawyer, when in fact, id draw a straight line from showing up to Police Station without a lawyer & stupidity .
@@rachaelsimpson6991 I think it feels more scary than anything, children are already vulnerable but to know they will ALWAYS be vulnerable is scary.
I don't believe these two men had anything to do with her death. Meanwhile, there's a murderer running free. Great work!
It’s gotta be the brother
@@3peatnation971 mayby it was suicide. She give out her stuff, mayby she try to die in crush car, mayby drowning and at least she did it by sufocating. This court was a joke, this gut was to slow to catch someone, and his grip strenght was of a baby. And one more thing. Why he would do that? What it the reason? Some slow guy with low IQ murder someone and want a polygraph test? And after murder he goes fising again? No dna on her, near to nothing in the car which was touched by police with no gloves after hand shake with suspect. It isn't funny, it is tragic, but it is a terible joke.
There's a theory that she committed suicide and that the reason her body was wet was that she had made a failed attempt to drown herself before resorting to the ligatures.
I agree. She was strangled, put in her car, car pushed down the river bank, killer walked off. Car doors opened on impact, she fell out. She was wet bc she was lying on a river bank in the mornin dew... my opinion.
@@bonchbonch she strangled herself😂🤣 clown
This case has always made me sick at my stomach. Anyone can tell that those two men were innocent. The cops didn't even blink as they pressed charges on these men without even investigating properly. That's just laziness. A man lost his life over the stress of being so easily charged with something he didn't do and another man lost years of his life. It's totally terrifying how easy it is for the court system to do this to innocent people
Marc is either the world's best actor or he's innocent. His sincerity and obvious devastation were heartbreaking to watch.
With his level of IQ, no way he's a great actor. This was heartbreaking.
@hyeboi Such an edgy comment bro. Try harder.
He was freed on june 5th this year
I think Mark was railroaded. He appears too simple, and his interview shows his answers seem to be truthful.
I don't think he could have successfully lied about his involvement with his mental capacity. He seemed genuinely confused when the detective told him his DNA was found in the car, rather than scared. And he just insisted they did not find his DNA because he knows that it should not be possible for them to have found his DNA somewhere he didn't go because it was explained to him as being like a fingerprint. I think most people with his mental capacity upon being told there is DNA evidence of them being in the car, and they in fact were in the car their story would suddenly change to try and explain away why the DNA was there. The fact that he stuck to his story suggests to me that he was telling the truth. He also seemed to genuinely want to help the detective catch the person responsible, he wants the person to be caught and he doesn't even seem to notice that this cop is leading him down a dangerous path with the leading questions at all due to the fact he wanted to help so much. I feel like maybe there was some sort of mix up with the DNA testing - it wouldn't be the first time. There are a few cases where they have gone back and proved that a DNA test was wrong, and somehow the DNA to be tested was contaminated with the DNA to test it against, and it is only discovered after samples are sent off to a separate lab to be retested and fail to find any link with the DNA at all. The fact that all the DNA was mixed could indicate that there was some sort of contamination error. Or the cops straight up planted it.
@@StreakyBaconMan yeah his demeanor reeks of "yeah do what you gotta do I know I didn't do it." The two even submitted for a lie detector test as inadvisable as that may be. Seems like were framed...just not sure why other than closing the case.
Agree a hundred percent. Like probably most of us commenters here, I have been watching and listening to these crime shows and studying interrogations and learning about the techniques such as that brought out by Jim Can’t Swim. And I’ve really been trying to hone my intuition this way. Well I’m no master but everything one practices, one tends to get better at. So right before showing Marks interview with the detective, Mike had said they found DNA in the car from both the guys. So I’m of course thinking; okay done deal. They’re caught. HOWEVER as I watched the interview and then observed Marks reaction when being told his DNA was in the car; my brain was SCREAMING; this guys telling the truth!!!
And my ego was taking a beating hahaha. I was scratching my head saying; wow. I guess you really NEVER can tell. I guess some folks are just really good deceivers. And I was bummed with myself for being wrong.
But as things continued, I saw how flimsy the case really was.
The thing that really got me was that Mark did not come across as any sort of devious mastermind and usually if someone of his mental caliber is being deceiving, the deceit tactics are really easy to pick up on. Most of us would be able to tell jf a 10 yr old was lying to us. And Marks simple responses to questions just sooooo seamlessly remained consistent with his also simple response to the accusation that he was in the car; No I Wasn’t.
Well DNA says so. No I Wasn’t.
I also like how when asked if his cuzzin could have done. He still remained honest and honerable; No I don’t believe he would.
Now ego aside. This case is INFURIATING. Neil (S?) died under the stress of accusation and died without exoneration. There needs to be consequences for such a criminal thing. How is it that these detectives that take a vow to bring balance and justice instead themselves become criminal!!!
I find it very hard to believe that BOTH their touch dna has transferred to the inside of car. And I find it a helluva lot more likely that these coppers simply framed these guys. The 🧬 dna makes NO SENSE. How is it randomly in the car but NONE on her or her fingernails or the outside of her car. It’s all so random and arbitrary. I really hope Mark gets fully exonerated and gets paid MAD cash in a well deserved civil action. And that the actions of those cops whether it was a simple error of judgment OR something more insidious I pray it comes to light and consequences are dolled out approach.
With carpal syndrome added there is no way physically he could of done it. Lazy law enforcement and Lazy defence is what can be confirmed - the other guy who died probally had his death prematurely, due to the stress on an already, weak heart 🤔
Agreed. He doesn't seem capable of guile, or deceptiveness, he seems very earnest in his answers. He just doesn't...seem capable of convincingly lying about whether or not he was involved, and so if he says he wasn't, I believe him. I just can't imagine him being able to lie about something like that.
When Mark looked at that detective straight in the eye and said,No you didn't find my DNA in the car,there was fear, sorrow,uncertainty in his voice but also a strong conviction.
it was so clear there.
@@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw mark didnt do a polygraph the other guy did though and passed
You try having an authority figure tell you a lie and see if you don't show some fear. Even innocent people show fear when authority starts making false claims.
You’re being told you murdered someone by a police officer... even if you know you didn’t do it, the officer obviously believes you could have done it. So of course, naturally, you’re going to be fearful.
@@MF-qw5wl he told them he would though but they didn’t let him
I feel for those 2. And as I watched Marks interrogation video I knew he was innocent.
I also was accused of a heinous crime and was held on an enormous, unattainable bond for more than 2 years. I went to trial and proved my innocence, with the help of evidence that the prosecution hid for 2 years and that was given to us the week before trial.
I say all that to say this, cops and prosecutors will do anything they can to make a suspect fit a narrative just to close a case. The detectives and the prosecutor in my case HAD to have known that I was innocent.
OMG I'm glad you had the chance to prove your innocence and get your life back.
@@naomiledger1374 Thank you. I’m actually the anomaly. People in my position lose more often than win. Just like the guys in this video. Then they spend decades trying to get it overturned. Our court system is flawed, but unfortunately it is what we have.
You must have not been a guy on the up and up. Did you have a criminal record?
@@joeking433 the only thing on my record was an underage dui. You don’t have to be a bad person to find yourself in a bad situation with an overzealous detective.
They hid evidence for 2 years that proved my innocence, which they had before they ever contacted me, much less arrested me.
@@NorthGeorgiaAudit It's actually very rare that an innocent man goes to prison. Probably less than .001%. And most of those guys have done something where they deserved prison. As far as your story of innocence and the prosecutors hiding evidence, well, that is even more rare. So, you have done nothing that deserved prison time in your life? You're truly a good guy on the up ad up with a stellar reputation? I think it's rare that what you experienced happens, and why should I believe you?
His interrogation interview, he came across as simple and pointed. The detective was feeding him. They had no other leads.
Yes, Mark wouldn’t be hanging there if he had committed the murder.
Yeah I mean they seem like dumb hicks but I mean, why would they submit dna samples if they did it..? It was optional haha
And I'm pretty sure they would have left way more evidence
And yeah, that detective led the shit out of him with the strangling part
16:30 ❗Additional reasonable doubt to back up that it was suicide-- Giving away items just hours before her death. (and no sign of attempted sexual assault?!)
I agree
I feel bad for him & he definitely seems innocent from what I've seen
Notice when the interrogator asks Mark if he knows how she died. He says the TV said she was strangled and holds up his hands in a choking position. She was strangled with cords, probably from behind. That was a major tell of his innocence there. Those police should probably be in jail, not him.
Seems like suicide to me
They should all be fired trying to put them in prison it killed his cousin
Yea he was highly suggestible, low IQ. Poor guy
@@seanheffernan1206 how do u drive off the road and use 3 ligatures on yourself 🤔
I totally noticed that aswel
Did they not notice that this man literally repeated every single thing the detective said to him?! This is so sad.
They played into that for the "interagation " it's so shameful if there even was any DNA in the car the cops put it there
That detective did it on purpose. He literally says “can you do this for me” because the detective then knows he can say the suspect “did this” or “said this” while he is under oath and “technically” not be lying. Should be criminal.
I've promised myself, as a fan of Mike's storytelling btw, that I won't EVER leave a comment on this board any more. 'cause there are 6-9 K of such here already by a case, and who would read the 9001'st one? But I can't help me out from expressing my opinion in this single time more: 1) there was a notification that those 2 dudes had already got used to go fishing at that very spot regularly - and it could have been discovered by another party. 2) knowing, that the unfortunate woman had a plan to go to fotoshoot the kayaking ca a week before, an interested person would have had more than enough time to go and collect the DNA from those simple-minded folks, plant it into a car, and even to orchestrate all the event. 3) It smells like that good ole brother to a sister thing (the brother left an extremely dubious impression). RIP the beautiful and talanted young woman, and good that the obviously innocent dude is out.
@@lauriegialone5757 Are you typing this from prison???
@@Quietu Yes. It's ridiculous they're allowed to manipulate like that. Just one of many many reasons no matter if I'm guilty or innocent I'm immediately asking for a lawyer. It's just too risky to speak to interrogators.
The way he just kept flat saying “no, you didnt” about the DNA, combined with his simplicity, that’s what first got me to think he didn’t do it.
Acab
Get a job, edgelord.
It is so obvious this man needs an advocate. Idk if he's guilty or not but this was not right to interview him like that. Happens way too often. You can tell by tone of voice the interviewer knows he is child-like. And the evidence DEFINITELY didn't prove guilt without a doubt. This is a mistrial.
@Oliver Queen DNA isn't everything, doesn't matter how slow YOU are. Science says otherwise.
@Oliver Queen Also the right to a fair trial is for EVERYONE, even slow people like you deserve that.
@Oliver Queen did you not watch the video it could have been touch dna the stupid cops were not wearing gloves idiots should be fired
Theres been other famous cases where they coerce confessions out of slow people. It's always disgusting and obvious.
Exactly! Ppl who are ignorant of the law don't understand why this was a very dangerous move by the police.
The last 5 minutes of the video did more in defending this guy than his defense team. 😔
It was the last 🌲 minutes 😂😂😂😂
Yeah his defense team was GARBAGE. But that is what you get with Public Defense attorneys.
The legal system is a team sport. It’s a blood sport. They work together. They ultimately never work for their clients.
Mark Carver was released on 5th June, this year. His murder conviction was overturned.
Thank god that poor man!! That brother is who they need to interview
Omg that’s such good news!
@@4Kyaro and I agree. For some reason when I saw him, I had a bad feeling.
@@4Kyaro right! He didn’t seem sad or emotional at all during his interviews. Very detached.
I'm only halfway through the video and I'm already thinking "this guy did not do this." No motive, no sexual assault, a mentally handicapped guy, every answer he gave was straight forward with no hesitation. Police investigators advance their careers by closing cases, cold cases look bad on their records.
How could he have strangled her with his disability in his hands? He had no hand gripping strength! Did that ever come up at all?
I think this whole case was ableist against a person with a learning disability. Horrible injustice. Poor man. And the victim seems like such a wonderful person, she wouldn't have wanted that.
That scene of him crying behind the glass hurt my heart. Poor guy.
i believe the brother did it
yeah. That's where I got convinced he didn't do it as well.
Same. 😭
I'd think if I murdered someone on the riverbank..I'd prolly not stand around fishin at that very spot 🙄
🤣🤣🤣
Lol exactly. I just commented something similar.
😂 Very good point
Or leave , and come back three times or as mike says tree
Killers often revisit their kill sites.
I think he’s innocent and should get a settlement for wrongfully accused!
A big fucking boat he can go fishing on
@@Maybe1Someday lmaoo sorry not trying to be insensitive but for real !
He deserves justice not only did they fail to get justice for the girl they put an innocent man away for life. No justice anywhere .
Mark was released on June 5th of this year. His conviction was overturned.
@@ashy.aquarian REALLYY??!!!! That's great if true👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Glad to read the comments that he was released, it was obvious he was coerced into saying incrminating things by the bully of the detective. I hope he has the opportunity to sue them.
How the heck is it legal to interview someone with learning disabilities without a lawyer or at least a supporting adult? That's shameful
I don't believe it is legal, at least not in all states
@@w.k.astrolabe280 Thankyou for clarification I thought it seemed off in a big way. Some police forces are a. Law unto themselves
It's disgusting.
EXACTLY!!!!! WOW!
American police got form for doing this
Weird how they didn’t take a deep look into her friends and people that are actually in her life and know her thus might have a reason to cause her harm. Poor mark they stole ten years from an innocent man’s life
Another case that clearly shows that you NEVER talk to police or give up a DNA sample without a court order.
I could have smacked that cop through the monitor when he was boasting 'You have no idea how much you are helping me'
Yes!!!!!
So sad, but true. I would never ever talk to police without a lawyer. And I haven’t even had a speeding fine. I was raised to respect the police, even trust them. But what some of them are doing (or have done) made me lose all respect and trust. There’s no way to know who’s a good law enforcement officer and who’s a corrupt POS until it’s too late. I’d never want to hamper a murder investigation, there are loved ones looking for answers and some type of closure. But the dreadful things some police officers do make me very unlikely to be cooperative without a lawyer and video footage of every moment I spend with police.
@@tickledtoffee exactly
Nicole B ya people don’t understand how powerful the right to remain silent is! I don’t get it. We’re lucky we have it. In England, remaining silent can be used against you in court as a sign of guilt.
I feel so sorry for him 💔 He didnt deserve this, his disability was taken advantage of
I agree - I also find it hard to believe that he was involved. But there sadly is no certainty. No certainty either way really - so I don't believe that he should have been sent to prison. What makes it worse is the man's poor cousin (possibly innocent) that died from a heart attack.
I feel sorry for him and his cousin who I believe are innocent and we’re stripped away from their families. The cousin actually had a heart attack and died. You know, I believe God has a special judgement when these cops die. If they haven’t repented of their sins and tried to make their wrongs right….
Frosty…
As so frequently is (disability taken advantage of) so ‘they’ can say the case is solved.
@@Jonathan_Strange clearly you want to play God I think this I think that bunch of clowns everyone will get their judgement yes even bums like you
@@songlee1253 just as long as you don't think "this" or think "that", you're allowed to make comments like that, okay. Troll much today?
This is so sad. This is definitely a case of wrong person, wrong place, wrong time. I believe he’s innocent which means the animal who killed her is still out there. :(
So why aren’t the professionals being prosecuted for fabricating evidence? Isn’t it a crime? If not it should be.
The shouldve secured the crime scene , established a perimeter and waited for the white suits (CSI). All i saw were plain clothed police with no gloves fumbling around. But being a small town with limited resources , dont know how the process "murder" scenes with a body literally just there at their feet.
Cops aren’t even prosecuted when they murder someone; What makes you think they would be prosecuted for sloppy crime scene work or fabricating evidence?
You, and some other people in these comments, are confusing fabricating evidence with sloppy police work.
Clearly these small town cops weren’t experienced and could’ve accidentally put their DNA on the scene, then took it as gospel.
Whether or not, and if so how they should be punished are different questions altogether, but I don’t really believe they intentionally placed the DNA there.
@@kieranmoynihan1161 I dont think they are corrupt just inept and inexperienced in dealing in homicide cases and processing crime scenes.
@@sbstnpofadder you dont think theyre corrupt? did u not see the interview? purposely leading a simple man to self incriminate, tricking him into saying things, mimicking his motions, then selectively showing edited portions to mislead the jury? thats corrupt. the da and the detectives certainly were, the original street cops, no one can know, but a department rots from the inside out. if the da and lead investigators are dirty, theyre going to press the cops to do the same.
This story bummed me out so much. Sad for the injustice on both sides. Innocent people going to jail and also a young girls life cut short - and nobody knows why
Except the killer
Some admirer from university or her brother or suicide.
@@patrickraftery1815 she didn't commit suicide.
Its a tragedy but poor Ira is at peace. Just wished her friends could get her more support that she needed. RIP Ira
I know. These stories are always sad, but for the most part we get stories with a resolution: the murderer is apprehended and brought to justice. But here? There was no justice done. Ira’s killer is likely still at large. And Mark spent years behind bars, missed his grand children growing up, all because he was sure the system wouldn’t convict an innocent person. I can’t believe his appeals were denied so often.
It seems like someone was in the backseat who could have strangled her causing her to crash? This is so sad….that young lady seemed like a ray of sunshine. I hope they catch whoever killed her.
When asked: “what would you say to the victims family?”
Mark replies with: “I hate that it happened and I want em to catch the right one.” He then adds “I feel sorry for them cause I got 2 (kids) of my own.”
That screams innocent in my eyes. When given the the opportunity to proclaim his innocency or the incompetence of law enforcement. He instead chooses to give his condolences to the family first and then wishes them closure and resolution. Only thing this man “murders” are 6 packs and Logs of chewin’ tabaka.
And fish :) don't forget the 🐟
I totally agree with you. I think his family set him up as they didn't want any of their favourite boys (original killers) betting caught up in it. He was dispensable to his family. Prob was his whole life 😔😘😢
“I got two (daughters) of my own.” He also has a son.
Agreed. Mark Carver is highly likely a 100% innocent of this crime
@@BrendanSteele I'm sure he said it like that because it was a young female that was murdered. Gotta think about the context of the conversation.
Mark's face when he was interviewed while in jail BROKE my damn heart 😭😭😭
@Chris Kibodeaux The detective who interviewed him by the river shook his hand and then went back to the car and touched it without gloves on. There is footage of this happening in the video. That explains how his DNA got there without him being there.
Calm down.
Touch dna is unreliable because it’s easily transferred
@Chris Kibodeaux Carver is innocent. None of his DNA was found on Irina's body despite substantial contact needing to have happened between her and the murderer. They found DNA on the ligatures used to kill her that didn't match his. The touch DNA on the car was a result of secondary transfer. Another big ol' swing and a miss by law enforcement and another innocent man jailed. At least he's out now.
@Chris Kibodeaux do you have any idea how many dna cases have been found to be unreliable??
Instead of finding it wierd that he emotionaly breaks although he has nothing to do with the victim and theiir relatives whatsoever? I would say it is guilt and remorse that makes him cry here.
Even someone who is slow wouldn't just start fishing 100m away from someone he just murdered.
@Brando the man, doe it was also mentioned that he supposedly went back and started fishing again, after the murder
No shit.
I was looking for this comment, Amen!!!
I feel horrible for these 2 men. As a black man I've seen this in my community so many times. It's truly unfortunate.
I've watched a lot of interrogations and the ones with him were shameful. Because he is a little slow and was confused they blatantly manipulated him in to making gestures and such. I believed every word he said when he said he didn't do it. The truth was all over his face. This makes me so afraid of the system. I can't imagine how may innocent people are in prison.
It’s more than you’d imagine.
the brother did it
EVERYONE in prison is innocent! Didn't you know that???
Dropped everything for this...Welcome back Mike, I hope you’re feeling better 🙆🏽♀️
Thank you! Yes, much better, back to two videos per week as usual :)
@@ThatChapter I'm glad to hear that
Didn't know you were sick 😢 Hope you're all ok now. 🍺
@@ThatChapter thank God for that! Totally mucked my week clock right up 😄. Glad you're feeling better, much love from 🏴🏴🏴
@@ThatChapter My mission in life is to convert my friends into watching this channel. Obviously being Irish we love the sarcasm 😆
In my heart ❤️ I feel someone else did this to her. I hope one day they find the killer!! May She Rest In Peace 🙏🏽🤍🕊🕊
The guy having the heart attack and mark seeming so child like and sad/scared hurts me man.
Having been fishing a lot on banks next to a not so busy road, back roads by the river/lakes often have heavy equipment riding around the roads above due to farm land being so close by. I hear shit all the time and wouldn't think twice if I heard a car crash! I'd just let it be unless someone was yelling for help or I could hear something more than a car hitting something.
Yeah these two were completely innocent. I am relieved to know he is not sitting in jail. You can tell Mark is completely innocent. I teared up when they showed him in that jail interview! I hadn't heard of this case before and was thinking the whole time if this guy is still in jail I am going to be very pissed off. If you can't tell this guy is innocent something very mentally wrong with you.
I get the same terrible feeling when I hear of defenseless animals being abused that I get when I hear of low-IQ people being wrongfully accused. It’s so fucked up, like law enforcement has no conscience & will prey upon an easy conviction
And if that's all it took to have a heart attack it seems like he would have had one during the alleged crime. Didn't he already have one before?
Exactly a girl was killed close by my house and all I heard was a gun shot...me being from alabama in the boonies people hunt all the time so I never thought twice about it ...I hate that it happened but just like that this guy prob was like me and just never thought about the scraping much yano....I just know this guy is innocent for sure and its scary to know her killer is still running around out there😥😥😥
@@seeglines I just remembered what my family used to tell me when I was little. Loosely translated :"water carries (sounds)".
That prison interview made me so sad-the poor man looked so scared.
I agree. Mark carver showed no signs of guilt in that interview at all. He looked terrified and out of His depth, but certainly not guilty of murder. A very sad story. I'm glad He's out of jail. I'd also like the family to get the answers they need too
I felt so sorry for him, imagine knowing you didnt do something but being sent to prison for life anyway, the US justice system is abhorrent!!
Mike, the defense ALSO HAD the video and could have played it. They chose not to. Your premise the prosecution didn't play it left out that the defense is given ALL evidence before trial. The two suspects were definitely inside the vehicle.
You must be a cop... their is no way police could of framed these guys huh??? Police are never wrong huh??? Moron!
@@rodrod1515 lol they were definitely inside the vehicle, not sure why that is so hard for people to get. Like doesn't even mean they did it. A lot of pretend body language experts. Police didnt even need to frame or steamroll these guys, they caught them in a lie.
This is why you NEVER speak to police without a lawyer present. Anything you say, no matter how seemingly innocent, can be twisted and used against you.
They even twist you asking for a lawyer... Making you feel guilty for even asking for one
Yep, yet another good (great) example. With “knowing” her height. Yet not showing the video of him being instructed on that just seconds before. Horrible defense
@@rick15666 that was criminal that they misrepresented what happened like that
@@rick15666 it was setup that way. I watched it happen to a friend of mine back in the 90's. You could clearly see how the attorneys and judge were working with prosecutors to make it all fit. He lost 20 years of his life because of those corrupt assholes and the guy that really committed the crime was a minor so never even got probation. They needed someone that could be tried as an adult, so they took Donnie. I never forgot that, how surreal the whole thing was. Wrong place, wrong time. My friend wouldn't have hurt anyone, he was kind and genuinely loved people.
You are right but the defense lawyers were also idiots
Here's my first impression scenario: Victim does whatever business she had nearby and gets back into her unlocked car. Killer hiding in the backseat pops up and slips a ligature around her neck and orders her to drive or else. She fights back and loses control of the car as it goes off the road and down the embankment. Car hits the stump, momentarily freeing the victim who manages to open the door and fall out as she struggles to breathe and is unable to scream for help. Killer exits the rear of the car leaving that door open also, and proceeds to strangle his victim to death outside of the car. Mark and his cousin heard the sound of the car scraping as it exits the road 100 yards past them. They never hear screams because the victim is totally unable to do more than desperately try to draw in air through a crushed trachea even after momentarily escaping her killer.
...and that person is the brother.
His comment about being 'so' sure it was Mark and Neal set off so many alarm bells. It's him.
I felt really sorry for Mark in particular watching him be manipulated during the interrogation. You could clearly see he genuinely was so confused and didn’t know how to handle the situation. I believe he is innocent and it’s so wrong that he was convicted with such minimal evidence. I’m glad he’s free. And maybe if Neal wasn’t taken down with him, he’d still be alive 😞
He died ?
This is so sad to me ! I believe he’s innocent! You can tell he’s so confused the entire time and he’s a sweet heart. They used it all against him.
His lawyer sucked.
@@destineeherrera Neal died of a heart attack
Felt sorry for the guy when he was crying during the interrogation. Just imagine the pressure of these officers on him. I believe he is innocent.
I think no one would think he was guilty. Even that copper knew really and honestly
A few decades ago a young boy, I think he was 10 or 13, very young. If memory serves me right he was accused of killing his litter sister with a hammer, if one were to look at that interrogation video it shows the police badgering this kid to the point where he simply "confessed" to get it to stop. They went full Guantanomo Bay on him. He was eventually exonerated due to the confession being clearly coerced, almost coached in a way. Unfortunately, I can't remember the kid's name, but an internet search would likely find it quite easily.
@@francoisgrobbelaar8821 I think it should be legalized clinically but cannabis was a def, gateway drug to me.
Framed like a van Gogh.
@@francoisgrobbelaar8821 That sounds almost exactly like the Stephanie Crow case. She was stabbed to death and her 14 yo brother Micheal was berated and lied to so that he confessed, later proven innocent.
I remember this case. These poor men. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Evidence was fabricated against them, while the real perpetrator got away with murder.
That’s exactly what I think.. seeing cases like this, I have little to none trust in US justice system (in justice systems around the world in general).. though at least he is not in prison..
Yeah looking at them both pocket really doesn't seem like they could be capable of doing that. Although they both kind of give Lenny vibes
Ahhh.. the ol DNA BLUFFUS
16:30 ❗Additional reasonable doubt to back up that it was suicide-- Giving away items just hours before her death. (and no sign of attempted sexual assault?!)
I don't believe these men did this. Unfortunately, he has lost a lot as did the other man. I am sure all of this was a big contributing factor to his heart attack. I feel for her and her family, but I just don't think they did anything more than discover her.
That moment when the sociopath is the one doing the interrogating
A key point not specifically mentioned by Mike: 24:13 #4 on that motion for relief states that DNA found on all 3 ligatures was neither the girl's or Carver's. No way on the planet can you strangle someone and not leave DNA behind. I hope Mark eventually walks away with a tidy retirement courtesy of the DA's office.
The fact that those officers saw a man with an intellectual disability and thought he was easy pickings so they wouldbt actually have to put in effort to solve the case is despicable. Seeing how confused and scared he was in that interrogation broke my heart. I'm glad hes out now.
Sadly I’ve seen a few cases like this. There was one about a mentally disabled 14 year old black kid who got put in jail for over 12 years because he saw the sirens across the street and wanted to go look. Just happened to be a murder there, and since he was “there”, they interrogated him for hours on end with no parents, no lawyer. Kid just lived across the street and was curious about the lights..
@@kennedy6587 he'd doing good now tho.
@@elavke5441
Is he? How’d you find out? If he hates the police forever I won’t be surprised.
I was thinking the exact same. the police man interviewing them is just a bully
It's so disgusting. Surely the tapes should be shown in court. Anyone can see the intimidation. I'm not the kind of person that "lawyers up" but if I've found out anything by watching Mike is I'm not speaking without one. It's either children or sadly people that are nit the sharpest that are filling the prisons. Makes me feel sick.
Sounds like a lazy police department.
And corrupt. Everyone wants to look good rather than do good.
You can just say 'police', they're all lazy.
North Carolina is a lazy state in general.
And incompetent
I have read and watched a lot of those serial killer stories now. Lazy incompetent police seems to be the problem in a lot of cases. Like one of the most infamous killers Ted Bundy also escaped and was able to kill again due to lazy/ incompetent police.
The brother being the spokesman after being one of the last people to see her really makes me suspicious of him
I was thinking the same!! Mike doesn’t say it but a unknown Male’s DNA was on all 3 items around her Neck…it’s not Mark’s or Neil’s & the Evidence was destroyed when it’s meant to be kept even when closed! They knew about the real Killer’s DNA too! Read 24:19
What is really shitty is, in my oppinion, that the district attorney said he will do everything to bring Mark Carver back to prison, even If there are reasonable doubts about his guilt.
How about the DA doing His best to find the real Killer?
He's obviously fixated on Mark and sees his prosecution only as what it means to his own career
District Attorneys don’t find killers, just prosecute them.
@@cocolime6496 Yes, Mark Carver seems to be a scapegoat. Who in his right mind - even a person with a lower intelligence level - would commit a murder and then just stay on the scene? Such an act seems to be much too cold blooded for this man. And the case the Police/DA had created - he committed another crime, then murdered Ira, because she has seen it? Surely, any criminal would just sit there all day, keeping on fishing!
@@MrRyan-wu4jx Yeah, but he wants to put Mr. Carver back in prison, and that's not what a DA should do also...
You could tell just by the way he was questioning him the cop already determined he was guilty.
I can't even finish this episode Mike. He's innocent.
Mike agreed in the end that Mark may be innocent, so you've played yourself.
@@dinkledankleI kinda figured Mike thought he was innocent by the way he was talking I'm the beginning, especially about the carpel tunnel. I don't think I played myself at all. I just didn't like watching that poor man suffer.
@@victorianadolski187 He was exonerated and released.
metaempiricist He was released, yes. But he was not exonerated. He’s wearing an ankle bracelet & out on $100K bail. Everyone knows he’s innocent but, as usual, the system doesn’t give a shit.
I can’t watch it either. Something about down-and-out men who are taken advantage of turns my stomach
It’s so frightening how easily “evidence” can be turned against you by desperate law enforcement. I don’t think this guy did it.
Desperate, incompetent and uneducated, they searched the car without gloves
Well, the guilt is also to seek in a halfwit jury who convicted him despite lack of evidence.
and cops ask wtf dont citizens trust us ???? videos like this are self explanatory !!!!
Hey Mike. This practically happened in my back yard. Most of us here felt they both were very innocent, and the court wanted a conviction not caring for truth. These poor guys were framed. Rumors circled about a connection between a guy going to Belmont Abbey College that also went to the YMCA she knew. The police did nothing to investigate. Thank you so much for bringing light to this case. Also, on a personal note, I believe your gut is right. Thanks again.
Tell a reporter at the tv station. They might be able to shame the department back into action.
Thx for this. This is very important and somewhat makes me happy (well for lack of better words... makes me less sad). Knowing the community there is for the truth and justice - thx.
@Michael Ross Why do you think that?
I just hate these screwed-up-police-f*cked-up-again-on-purpose stories. Why did they never investigate her boyfriend and friends? Or family? Heartbreaking to see innocent people jailed by the very people responsible for law enforcement. How do they sleep at night? The moment Mike said the police looked for *anyone* and found Mark and Neil nearby, I knew this wasn't going to turn out good. Meanwhile, the real murderer is walking around free and may kill again. Next video which starts going this way, I'm out. Here's to the poor man getting justice and a payout.
Hey Rob, my Dad lived in Dallas, so I grew up there every other weekend. I also remember when this happened. My family thought the same thing.
I hate when I hear about cases where they seem to forget about the "reasonable doubt" part out of convenience. They just want a conviction so they can satisfy the victims family. Sad and unfair.
Yes but I still am dumbfounded when they do it to innocent person. A) because it’s wrong and b) think would not want real killer to get away with it
I don't believe they do it for the family. They want to close every case to look good and get promoted. If they cared about the family or the community they would find the actual killer.
@@traveltm yeah, i think the 'because it's wrong' argument just doesn't come into play for the prosecution. they don't care. what would be great if instead of the state paying out for lawsuits, the prosecutors had to pay for any damages from false imprisonment. maybe then they wouldn't be so carefree with the law.
also, it's north carolina, and they're notorious, right behind alabama and louisiana, for false imprisonment and police corruption.
It was clear from the start these two men didn't do this... They are not smart enough to do it and not slip up.
Wouldn't it be nice if everything the police say and do was recorded on the internet. I mean everything. Then we vote thumbs up or down for guilty of a crime or not.
I really believe this is a great idea, and what the internet was made for, hey... why limit a jury of peers to 12, when there could be millions of heads mulling over the details? And with millions of people thinking about the case/guilt/innocence, there has gotta be people that can pick something up or look at things from a perspective never thought of before.
@Remington Black true that. But links to everything they do would be great. Since they are tax payer paid we are the employers.
The only thing that makes me say humm is when Mark was asked about how big she was he said 110lbs.. he said he never seen her in his life, never met her.
I noticed that too. And he said it quickly. That was very strange.
That’s so sad that this man is really trying to help but he doesn’t even know that they are trying to make him guilty.
Police shouldn’t be able to interrogate people with neurological difficulties like that. Mark is more child than adult. It’s just so awful.
No1 kills someone for no reason then sticks around fishing. This is absurd.
upsolutely!
I was looking for this comment, Amen!!!
You haven’t watched much crime videos…
Exactly!!! And literally that close to the murder
@@andersongarcia5117 Many*
He was doing a choking motion with his hands cuz he didn't know she was strangled with rope and string, and he has carpel tunnel on top of it, would it stop him from being able to tie those knots? I feel so bad for him if he's innocent which I really believe he is.
Carpal tunnel mainly affects thumb strength, pinching. Tendinitis makes supinated lifts hard, pinky and ring fingers are weak or tingly. I have both but good grip strength. You generally have to tie your bait or something onto the line if you fish, right? Though they said he was using a net so he may have trouble with knots- just depends how bad it is, it's progressive thing and if it's bad enough to actually GET disability then the chances are high.
They measure grip strength with a thing you squeeze so it's an actual quantifiable thing and the indicator for what treatment you need. Theres a surgery to open the carpal tunnel up and provide some relief, and they can also cut off some of your ulna to help the tendinitis. Both procedures aren't guaranteed to actually do any good and so usually they wont do them unless youre rich or quality of life is just awful.
I think he could physically do it with sufficient motivation, he just seems innocent
@@Ocelot80524 Agree with you, but the quantifiable indicator for grip strength is not really valid in most cases, since its up to the person being tested how hard they squeeze. Some people (not all) will make their condition seem worse than it is to collect disability and not have to work anymore. I am not saying that is what he did, but it just something people are capable of doing. I also agree that he seemed innocent, if anything I'd argue his mental capacity was more of the limiting factor. Don't mean it in a rude way but I highly doubt someone so stupid could pull off a crime so seamlessly and not get caught up in lies. Seems like he is the type of dude to spill the beans if he had beans to spill
Making a Murderer ?
He's not smart enough to wipe off all his fingerprints, etc
@@hoosierhiver They didn't find fingerprints they found DNA which is the big difference. DNA can be moved around and transferred a lot less deliberately than a fingerprint. If they didn't follow proper crime scene procedures it's entirely possible the police accidentally put their own and these two guys DNA into the car
I have never been more pissed off about a case in my life. It doesn't take a professional body language expert to figure out this man was innocent. His emotions were genuine, he literally responded to the DNA reveal as if he was 10000% sure they made a mistake or trying to trap him.
Why didn't they deep dive into the brother and boyfriend? Did they check the 2 people that made the 911 call? Why didn't they try to look into it as a suicide or accidental death?
Exactly
@Brando the man, doe They aren't but suspects often are picked based on that during interactions with officers.
I mean if we are going to speak about the facts he can't choke anybody because he has no powerful grip in his hands, there was ZERO motive and who the heck kills someone and goes back fishing and then comes back fishing later the same day? I'll take it a step further, if she was taking photos of them doing something illegal she literally could have driven away before they got on shore, had more than enough time.
Either it was suicide or someone close to her done it. Also the only other possibility is a freak accident though highly unlikely still more plausible than him killing her.
I agree with the dan point but you can't use people's body language and emotions , because sociopaths can play people. I do agree with you about the dna , complete bs
Polygraphs are crap. The only purpose they serve is a ‘scientific’ assist in playing mind games. More accurately described as psychological warfare.
@@cherylmcelveen2817 no doubt if you stay calm , you can beat them
I believe that Mark is innocent and was just convenient to charge to close the case. Poor man
I live less then 5 miles from where this happened and remember this case: Gaston County and Mt. Holly police is full of ‘good ole boys’ that look out for each other even if there wrong and there was a lot of pressure from the public to get this solved. Dude Is 100% innocent. There are tons of stories like this some public and many not, of where they have misused the badge. I make it a point not to go in this county.
Closing a case
Please tell reporters. To help this poor man. - god I wish these good ol’ boys places would just disappear... what does it take to change this????? It’s disgraceful
I feel so bad for mark man.. When he said "i think we are being framed" shit made me cry
Same. SO sick!
Despicable prosecution, inept, taking a mentally challenged person to get someone convicted. Trashy justice.
Well said - exactly what I was thinking. Pure trash. This is so hard to watch :(
Not to mention his Defense was incompetent.
His hands were too weak to do it, therefore it must of been him. -Says Detectives.
What bothers me the most about this case is the things that were misrepresented or not even presented to the jury. Horribly inadequate defense.
Anybody else see the back driver's-side door open, then picture someone who might have been hiding in the back seat. They might have tried to strangle her from behind, she stomps on the gas and/or flings the door open to get away, and he follows to finish the job.
This is very sad. If my instincts are any good at all, this man was not guilty. 😔 I am happy that he was exonerated, even though he lost so much time with his family. Also, I doubt anyone with a carpel tunnel disability could strangle anyone.
My mom has arthritis and has days where she struggles to even hold a knife. Very sus from the cops...
The question begs if he really had carpal tunnel or if he had a doctor perform a procedure to get on disability. I have had several employees claim this from repetitive motion. I’m sure some were truthful but several were in their late 20’s or early 30’s and I highly doubt they were not able to strangle someone. In America, most are looking for a way to get paid and not work.
"Go see my grandbaby."
excuse me, crying in my coffee
My husband was crying at that remark and really mad because the detectives size that he seems to be using in a way, my husband is that big if not bigger and said, he needs to try that with me!
me right now, except i’m sipping my morning tea!! xx
Me too
i never cry at these videos or really at much in general but that moment, hearing he was exonerated and his remarks about his family got me
Right in those feels
I love how Barney Fife left the crime scene, shook a man's hand, then came back to search the crime scene again? And y'all are calling Mark simple. 😂
_Edit_ : 25:10 is the actual cop in this actual clip not wearing actual gloves?! I have no words guys. I'm done...
Right!!!! Smdh
Thank you for this....gold
Barney Fife LOLLL
You mean the guy leaning up against the evidence, I mean car?
@@dianavillegas1959 Yep, the evidence/car (👀) literally at the damn crime scene. And if you keep watching there's another detective not wearing gloves either. We got a bunch of galaxy brains here, boys.
I’m so glad mark is a free man today . I really felt sorry for him . You could easily tell he was being honest . The poor man 😞 mark repeated every single thing he Heard the officers say or the TV .
Even I could tell that poor “simple man” was innocent when he was being interviewed. He was the most convenient fall guy.
You can tell.....sure about that Colombo?
It wouldn't be the first time a person with sub-normal intelligence has been found guilty of a crime based on sweet FA.
It's like a modern day To Kill a Mockingbird.
I felt the same.. idk if you ever watched Jim Can't Swim but he breaks down interigations with psychology. A few things he points out is if the police ask what they should do to the suspect the guilty usually go soft. He said he would kill him with out hesitation. When he said he had his DNA he didn't switch his story at all he was confident when he said his DNA was not found in that car.
Edit: spelling
Mark didn't act like a guilty man throughout that entire interrogation.
This! Thank you. He looked that cop square in the face and said “not my DNA, you didn’t”. That’s not the action of a guilty man.
The poor man is too physically impaired to perform simple tasks, they are just bullying someone mentally weaker than them !
I concur.
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@Ben Smith It absolutely does.
If he had done it why did he carry on fishing most murderers would have left
the scene
It sounds like his defense attorney was asleep at the wheel. I doubt he could afford his own so, unfortunately, he got screwed by a court appointed lawyer. If we want to improve our court system and ensure justice is upheld, we need to incentivize more lawyers to work in the public defender office. They're GROSSLY overworked to the point that's impossible to have enough hours in the day to do their job effectively.
In my country Murdoch's news network are currently running hit piece after hit piece against our legal aid program, trying to gin up support to further cut legal funds for defendants who aren't filthy rich. They keep reporting it as "these sick criminals got a £17'000 hand out of YOUR MONEY" when that's £17'000 for the defence lawyers. The same newspapers spend £17 MILLION on lawyers to defend themselves for illegal hacking operations to steal people's private information.
Defense attorneys always lie. They twist the truth a try to confuse honest witnesses who do their civic duty and come forward. Some attorneys are down right mean.
Rod Rod Rod Rod “Defense attorneys always lie.” But the other attorneys are different? Are you nuts? 😂 It’s like saying “men always lie.” Yeah, a lot of men lie; But, a lot of women lie. & most attorneys on both sides of the court room lie like dogs. If you don’t know that, you must not have a lot of court room experience.
@Hanna k Heather You know who is the only person who can hold those people accountable? The defendant's lawyer.
@@sugaredwards6207 Lawyers don't lie by their definition of lying. There are just facts that they can use to make up a fictitious argument that sway a jury. This is actually the opposite of that. In trial, his lawyer knew better than to attack the DNA evidence, because the fact wasn't that their DNA was in the car and on the victim it was that beyond any possible contamination their DNA profile was dominant. It is an appelate trick from the period he got freed to attack outdated forensic evidence as being in error.
Here's my theory: car jacking/kidnap attempt. The suspect was in the back seat while she was driving. She decided that if she crashed the car that she would have a chance to escape. When the car stopped down the embankment, she jumped out of the car to run but the person in the back seat also jumped out and got a hold of her. That would explain why the driver door and back passenger door were open. This person killed her then ran, and because of the open space they were in and how quickly she was caught, nobody heard enough to take any notice. This also explains why there was no film in her camera, she hadn't gotten to the lake yet and hadn't set up her camera yet which she was going to do at her destination. Also giving away a bunch of clothes does not mean you're suicidal, it means you're a generous soul.
Anyway my gut tells me this man is innocent and I always listen to my gut. I'm glad he's been released, the real criminal is out there somewhere.
My theory as well. The only thing I can’t get past is there should have been some kind of DNA around her neck.
This theory makes a lot of sense.
@@brazosforager1239 she was strangled with her hoodie laces and a bungee cord, right? wasn't like the killer used their hands - in this case, would there have been dna evidence? also if it was a carjacking the killer could have been wearing gloves.
I definitely think that whoever it was, they were in the car with her, and she jumped out of the driver's seat to escape. The fact that there were weeds and grass in her hands shows that she was alive for at least a few moments outside of the car.
Exactly what I was thinking as well! Someone could have slipped in the back seat while she was at the YMCA. And police detectives cannot figure that out? Either complete incompetence or just straight intentional to get this case closed at all costs. I don’t know which one makes me feel better 🤷♀️
This was my exact thought!!! I started looking in the comments to see if anyone had the same idea, I ALWAYS check my back seat before getting in my car and locking the doors!
"Alright i wish i could help you..." " Oh, you're helping me a lot, man, you don't realize how much you're helping me."
omfg if you ever hear a cop say that to you RUN THE OTHER WAY like damn that made my skin crawl D:
⬆️ this. Nope. That cop doesn't care about justice one but, as long as he gets to lock _somebody_ up and get home in time for dinner....
@@TheMattc999 yep. you could tell he was just interested in closing his case. disgusting.
Said it to his face cause he's got a learning disability. Really he denied everything and they had nothing against either one. Lol it's funny cause I remember cops scoffing at me when I said I was scared of cops. Even if I had a complied a list of reasons they would still scoff at me.
@@wandbowsword2805 im in your same boat, im terrified of cops, i got into panic attacks when i get approached by them. They dont care about your fear, they'll make it worse. Most police dont care in general.
Never, ever be talking to the police in the first place.
I've Always believed in his innocence & it's so heart breaking to think of an innocent person rotting in such a place😭
Scary: Someone getting away with murder.
Also scary: Being falsey acused of murder.
Skim
More scary. Suppose it was you.
If you ain't done it, you ain't done it. Can't take that away from anyone!!!!!!😚
Can’t argue with that
Most scary: Being falsely convicted of murder.
Absolutely terrifying - being CONVICTED of murder when you are so clearly innocent!
Watch Jim Can't Swim and you see how often police lie during interrogations, they are ALLOWED to lie. Including lying to say they have DNA. So always, ALWAYS get a lawyer.
Where is this Jim Can’t Swim? Netflix?
@@daisybelle2336 Patreon. He's also on TH-cam but they only put one vid a month.
I trust police before I watched his videos. Never again. They aren't getting 1 word out of me, even if I KNOW I'm 100% innocent. They can talk to my lawyer. And do NOT let them appoint a lawyer for you, ask your family / friends / call around while you can and get a good lawyer. It will be worth the money.
That's one of the best channels on TH-cam.
Also, never give them your DNA. It can be mishandled... or misused. The police didn't get DNA from the car until well after they got DNA from the suspects.
I was worried Friday one of those serial killers finally caught up with ya
I was worried too
Agreed. I was so bummed that there was no video on Friday. That Chapter, Mike and that fantastic accent are my highlight of the week. Glad to see he's back
Right? I was periodically checking to make sure I didn’t miss a notification.
He said in his last video that he’s not been feeling well so he took a break, it's in the comments
hahahaha thats my question too
Update August 2022: The charges have been dropped.
He’s out of jail now on bail. They are reopening his case.
Tysm for informing me I was about to bawl my eyes out... 😭
I hope he gets acquitted and the presiding judge grills the prosecution and investigators like a pig on a spit roaster.
Thank you
Thank you so much!
This dude is totally innocent. I sense a new season of "making a murderer".
NC is known for ill-educated, amateur police work.
It depends on the region honestly. But Mecklenburg county is just crooked as hell.
Never spent time in NC only driven through as a kid but no need to make a generalization about an entire state. That being said this particular police department could’ve really F’d up or hung the wrong guy just to close the case
Depends on the county. But this definitely got bungled, it seems. Damn. Was really hoping it hadn't.
And a totally crooked SBI.
So sad. If I were the family of the girl I would be pissed. I wouldn't want someone to be convicted when the real killer was still out running around.
Exactly. Cops like these ruin people lives and sure there are "good cops" but how good can they be when they turn their heads to shit like this, when they allow it to go on?
Me too. I’d want justice and for them to find the actual killer
Except maybe the killer is a family member
Except the family believes he did it. They believe that because the police told them they had evidence that he did it. They didn’t want that man to walk because then they wouldn’t even know where to begin to seek justice for their loved one. It’s just easier for everyone if he’s their perp. Everyone except of course this innocent man and his family.
In my opinion it was a suicide sadly for the family